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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 13, 2011
12:01 PM

Post #8308779

Just so we dont confuse newbies.I would like to propose an annual poppy thread so we can answer questions about sowing and identifying them.

First I need to say up front I am not a botonist and only can talk about what my good and bad luck has been in growing Somnifariums and maybe one other variety of annuals

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 13, 2011
12:10 PM

Post #8308790

The photo is of Venus poppies ( PAEONIFLORUM) that I direct sow in November - early March.
Peony flowered annual poppy.
This is a picture of poppies direct sown 2009 fall.
Somnifariums from a Heirloom collection bought from One Stop Poppy Shoppe.
I saved the seeds of the red poppies in that group.

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HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 13, 2011
9:08 PM

Post #8309680

Very nice Ge1836

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 14, 2011
2:33 AM

Post #8309764

This will be the 3'rd season for poppies .
I had bad luck last year. Some of the OSPS seeds didnt germinate.
This spring should bring tons of seedlings I hope.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 16, 2011
7:23 AM

Post #8313231

I'm watching this thread. I don't have any problem with the perennial poppies, but the annuals give me fits and starts. Last year I didn't get much at all, a lot of the seed came from One Stop Poppy Shop, and it might just have been a bad year with their germination, or I might have planted them wrong. The ones I got from friends on here germinated, and did fine.

I sowed quite a few this year from various sources, and kept track of where they came from, and I'm anxious to see how they do.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 16, 2011
7:32 AM

Post #8313241

OSPS might have a problem.
I am not positive but I think Neal had no germination rom his and he and I had the same varieties.
I mailed OSPS but no reply,that was months ago.
I have the place marked where I sowed their seeds so we will see if it was just a bad batch or not.
I begin to wish thete was another company that sold the same number of varieties OSPS does.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 26, 2011
2:59 AM

Post #8330768

Keeping our spirits up with this pic.
Annual Venus with lilies.

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pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2011
3:16 AM

Post #8330773

Hi Ge & Polly! I hope to have a large patch of poppies this year, last year's poppies did well and i've bought more seeds this winter. I'd like to have an entire field of them but we shall see if MN allows me to :)

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 26, 2011
3:54 AM

Post #8330807

Good for you. I hope our poppy dreams come true. I did the same thing. Just incase.
One Stop Poppyshoppe has one mor chance and if these November sowen poppies fail to germinate ,thats it no more of my money.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2011
3:59 AM

Post #8330812

I've bought from One Stop, and several other places. The best one for me last year was a mixed packet of Shirley Poppies, I had some eye popping poppies. ^_^

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 26, 2011
4:08 AM

Post #8330829

I'll say. I grew them 1 year but didnt resow. I dont have a space where they look to their best advantage.
Its pretty full here.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 26, 2011
7:26 AM

Post #8331153

Hi Pixie! That's a lovely one.
rosymom
Plympton, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2011
12:44 AM

Post #8332718

Thanks for this thread. I am trying to grow poppies for the first time this year. I also bought my seeds from OSPS. I hope they germinate!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2011
3:52 AM

Post #8332766

I am a natueral obcesser so I am also waiting to see if any germinated and the ones I sowed in late October that germinated in Nov. are going to survive.
Believe me I will be out there in April peering at the ground.
We can all check and report.
paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2011
4:27 AM

Post #8332784

Select Seeds has a decent variety of poppy seeds. J.L. Hudson does too.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2011
4:32 AM

Post #8332788

Tats great to know. I have a sneakiee feeling OSPS will not be on my list.
Just sayin,jury is still out.
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 27, 2011
4:44 PM

Post #8333947

My seeds came from Sheila year before last as a freebie. You will not believe the beauty. This years crop is already above ground,

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 28, 2011
1:43 AM

Post #8334495

any photos?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 28, 2011
12:39 PM

Post #8335334

Here is another daily poppy pic

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rosymom
Plympton, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 28, 2011
9:42 PM

Post #8336261

Uh oh, I feel a poppy obsession coming on! I love those feathery petals.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 29, 2011
1:13 AM

Post #8336337

Thats Venus a peonie flowering type.
Here they are with Lily Fata Morgana

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HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 29, 2011
7:08 AM

Post #8336608

That's a nice pic Ge1836. The anticipation of things to come.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 29, 2011
8:02 AM

Post #8336696

yep

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2011
5:23 PM

Post #8354156

Some Poppy and others eye candy!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anniesannuals/sets/72157625675374579/show/
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 4, 2011
5:34 PM

Post #8354181

Here in SE MO zone 6, I direct sow my annual poppies in late February. If it doesn't rain or snow either right before or soon after, I would give them a "gentle" spray of water to give them a start to germinate.
I understand one is to sow oriental poppies the same way.
I really like poppies--- all of them. They are so showy and once you get them going--they carry on by themselves.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 5, 2011
3:09 AM

Post #8354709

Birder, I do mine starting in Nov. I usually put them were I always do and then maybe a week or two later I find another place, so I put them there. I love poppies too and can't have enough of them.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 5, 2011
3:16 AM

Post #8354714

I sprinkle a little in Nov. then again in March just in case :)

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pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 5, 2011
3:19 AM

Post #8354716

The year we had the cold rainey spring /summer I didn't get out there until late May first of June to spread the seeds...had little hopes of getting any blooms, but i was wrong!

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 5, 2011
4:20 AM

Post #8354791

I am looking forward to your poppies Pixie.
Mike the Annies Annuals show was such a treat.
Absolutly loved the vintage dresses.
I only sow plants seeds that dont need to be fussed with before they germinate. I also buy local plants because our enjoyment season is so short plants need the greenhouse raised foe a good headstart.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 5, 2011
10:52 AM

Post #8355450

Here are the best shots from 2010
https://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/JustPoppies03
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 5, 2011
1:02 PM

Post #8355736

In past times, I have sown my poppies way too thick. That was a mess. This year, I am going to scatter them with sand and mark where I planted them. I think I will try to do some larkspur that way--just as an experiment. I did not get all I wanted to plant in Oct. So, I thought I would try. I just had a little "work" done on my toe so I am hobbling around today. There's about a two inches of snow on the ground and it is melting: a perfect scenario for planting poppy seeds. The seeds will "melt" right into the ground when the snow melts. I get best results that way.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 5, 2011
1:17 PM

Post #8355759

I sow too thick too and have to thin plants.
Seeds are expensive when getting a poppy patch going so now I scatter them more broadly.This is my 4he year so by next year I should have some nice patches.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 5, 2011
3:33 PM

Post #8356016

I have a real problem thinning--just hate to pull it out and toss it.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 5, 2011
4:23 PM

Post #8356091

They dont transplant well.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 5, 2011
4:24 PM

Post #8356095

Me too, and they don't like to be transplanted either :(

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 5, 2011
4:24 PM

Post #8356097

Ha ha, we crossed GMTA

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 5, 2011
4:35 PM

Post #8356117

I thought I was going mad for a minute.
I read a few years ago that someone transplanted the really teeeeny shoots in clumps of 5 or 10.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 5, 2011
4:38 PM

Post #8356121

And they made it?
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 5, 2011
5:24 PM

Post #8356163

I have transplanted poppies when they are quite small. The roots are about 2".

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 6, 2011
1:33 AM

Post #8356624

pixie: I believe so.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:04 AM

Post #8356644

This is good to know!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 6, 2011
3:14 AM

Post #8356651

I dont remember who posted that information. Might have been Neal.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
4:42 AM

Post #8356713

Gives me hope to try transplanting again. :)
bermudakiller
Union Grove, AL

February 6, 2011
4:57 AM

Post #8356731

I have transplanted opium poppies in trowel sized clumps with sorta satisfactory results, were always smaller but most lived and bloomed, just not as well and later. You have to thin after they establish themselves. Worth doing and a good way to give away starts.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 6, 2011
5:47 AM

Post #8356792

Bermudakiller :
Those are large clumps. I seem to remember the transplants didnt do as well as just thinning. Transplanted ones were smaller,those that lived.
I have not done this myself. I will make a note for this spring. The Venus's that self sowed will produce clumps, I'll thin them.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

February 8, 2011
4:52 AM

Post #8360406

Got a pack of seeds in the mail yesterday...it is a mix of colors called "OOH LA LA" Poppies, they look like this...
Found the package picture too...
http://hirts-gardens.amazonwebstore.com/OOH-LA-LA-Somniferum-Poppy-500/M/B000Y8BKO8.htm

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 8, 2011
5:23 AM

Post #8360450

Great peonie type mix.
pandora125
Symsonia, KY
(Zone 6b)

February 13, 2011
7:35 AM

Post #8369611

Note to self: time to sew poppy seeds!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 13, 2011
8:01 AM

Post #8369652

Will you get germination in a few days?
I think of your area as always warm.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 14, 2011
3:39 PM

Post #8372280

I am waiting a little longer to sow my poppy seeds. I will plant mine the last of February.
rosymom
Plympton, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 16, 2011
9:18 PM

Post #8376368

When do you suggest sowing the seeds?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2011
1:24 AM

Post #8376466

rosymom:
you are in the same zone as I am.If you are talking about annual poppies You probably have tons od snow on the ground. Wait until the ground is bare and sow them ASAP. they need a cold period ( weeks not days) in order to germinate.
good luck
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2011
12:28 PM

Post #8377416

I scattered seed in November and it looks as though I will have a true "field of poppies". I have literally thousands of seedling already up. I can hardly wait.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 17, 2011
12:34 PM

Post #8377430

I actually think the opportune time to plant poppies is with snow on the ground. The seeds sink right down into the soil. No watering, no seed blowing around (like today's gusts are 35 mph.) To each his own.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2011
1:12 PM

Post #8377531

yup !
rosymom
Plympton, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2011
1:37 PM

Post #8377570

Thanks for the advice. I will split the difference and wait until there is about 3" of snow on the ground and sow them then :)

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 17, 2011
2:33 PM

Post #8377652

Just finished sowing the last of the poppies, an old fashioned salmon peony with a purple center, it's my favorite.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
2:07 AM

Post #8378426

I cant wait for june here. Thats when poppies are blooming
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 18, 2011
6:58 AM

Post #8378727

Rosy, you don't "have" to wait until there's "three inches" of snow. I'm just saying it's real easy that way. I think the important part here is, you need to plant them around the last of February. If there's snow on the ground, well, that just makes sowing real easy. I don't think I am going to have snow at that time. So, I will rough up the ground a little on a calm day, pat them in gently, give them a gentle sprinkle--otherwise the seed will wash as it's so tiny.
Again, that's just the way I do it.
Roby: I have the very same poppy! Isn't it beautiful? I just love the color combo, and it goes with all the spring colors. I received this seed from my mom as an orchid 'pompon' poppy. As it has re-seeded and re-seeded, it evolved from orchid pompon, to a rosy pompon and some light pink pompon, to the salmon with lavender eyes. Soooo gorgeous.
The Goldfinch absolutely love the seed. My poppies were practically covered in Goldfinch when the seed was ripe. I could hardly save any, because they would eat it as soon as it was ripe. Just a side note.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
7:00 AM

Post #8378731

OMG I never thought Goldfinch would get to them.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
7:25 AM

Post #8378772

All the angst over my early germinated annual poppies and I checked where they have been revealed from snow cover. They are there,teeeeeny 2 leafed thingies.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 18, 2011
7:57 AM

Post #8378816

That is just the way you want them right now.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
8:08 AM

Post #8378829

Ohhhh yes. We will still have freezing and snow for another few weeks. April is really when the other annual poppies I sowed in Dec. will germinate and hopefully these early germinated ones will have 2 sets of leaves.

Its all a mystery.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 18, 2011
8:11 AM

Post #8378831

But, it's all fun, exciting, rewarding and educational!!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
8:18 AM

Post #8378842

I agree. now to pound a trellis leg further into the ground.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 18, 2011
8:21 AM

Post #8378847

I am going to find a spot for my bonus annual poppy from One Stop Poppy. Doing that today.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
8:44 AM

Post #8378869

I think she sent me the Venus peonie type that is so prolific here.

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Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 18, 2011
9:20 AM

Post #8378905

I put lots of poppies out by the fences for the birds, that way they leave the ones close to the house alone.

The lady that gave me the seeds for the salmon poppies had been growing the same one for 47 years. It was the only one she liked.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
9:21 AM

Post #8378907

Wierd

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 18, 2011
9:24 AM

Post #8378911

Wish I had pics of it. I couldn't find my seeds last year, so I didn't have any blooming. I will this year.
pandora125
Symsonia, KY
(Zone 6b)

February 26, 2011
5:54 PM

Post #8394574

Here is a pic of the poppies that i have, i got seeds from moms brother in w virginia. The first couple of years were iffy. They reseeded but not many plants. First chance i got, i scattered seeds in a bed with rich dirt that is protected from north winds. They sprouted and grew! Last year, i had a bed full of seedlings!

Now i know what the babies look like and they are already coming up.

This poppy is not like the old fashioned one mom had. Hers was they red type with papery petals, black in the middle. Someone 'noticed' that she had that one and it mysteriously disappeared.

Anyway, i am delighted with what i do have, poppies are gorgeous, i love having them in my garden:) They are probably 5 feet tall at maturity, am hoping that now i do have a start and they will reseed and flourish on their own, and still give me enough seeds to start more groups around the yard.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
1:53 AM

Post #8394967

lovely
Rebeccatowoc
Stewart, TN

February 27, 2011
7:20 AM

Post #8395262

I tried direct sowing for the first time last fall and now have a few seedlings emerging. At least I think so. Could you please say a few words about what the baby plants look like, so I can be sure I know them from weeds? Thanks!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
7:28 AM

Post #8395273

Here are some newbies

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
7:30 AM

Post #8395277

That was April 6 in Zone 6
This was a few weeks later. The leaves will be blue green or pale green

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birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 27, 2011
7:34 AM

Post #8395280

Pandora, you should have plenty of poppies from now on. It's getting them going for the first time that sems to be the challenge. They will probably eventually "evolve" to slightly different colors and probably go to single petal verses the peony style poppy.
rosymom
Plympton, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 1, 2011
6:58 PM

Post #8401358

I went to sow my poppies today and got a little nervous, lol.

Is it ok to sow them in the same area where I grow spring blooming bulbs? Thanks!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2011
2:31 AM

Post #8401753

ABSOLUTLY do it before its too late. I sow mine where I grow tulips and daffs.
The poppies cover the dying bulb leaves in June.
Hang in there, dont be scared of the garden.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 2, 2011
4:17 AM

Post #8401800

When in doubt if there is time, I always put my seeds in the freezer for a week, then in the soil. Another thing I have done is put them in a pot with dirt, water and then put in the coldest part of the fridge.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2011
4:39 AM

Post #8401823

good advise

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 2, 2011
4:42 AM

Post #8401828

In fact you should store all your poppy seeds in the freezer. they will last longer with a better germination rate.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2011
5:01 AM

Post #8401852

I order mine late fall and sow them a month or 2 later. I have only been sowing here for 3 years and dont have a lot of seed stored after the season ends.
It sounds like something to do when I have seeds in Juy.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 2, 2011
5:06 AM

Post #8401861

That's what I do when I harvest the seeds. Can't remember who taught me that trick, I think it was the hortaculturist at the high school. That's also what I do with my hibiscus seeds, it kills the little bugs that live inside.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2011
5:23 AM

Post #8401885

I will definatly refrigerate this years harvest

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 2, 2011
5:42 AM

Post #8401907

I was given some poppy seeds about 6 years ago and just never had a place to put them, they've been in the freezer. I have a new garden bed to put them in and I winter sowed them a month or so ago and they have sprouted so I will have some Pizzicato this year.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2011
5:47 AM

Post #8401911

I had no idea seeds would last that long.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 2, 2011
6:18 AM

Post #8401947

Ge1836. "Dont be scared of the garden". You are so funny! Sowed my pack about 10 days ago. Weezingreens also recommend storing seeds in the freezer.
rosymom
Plympton, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2011
1:50 PM

Post #8402742

Thanks! I have to admit, fear of mistakes does stop me.

I planted some today, but I hadn't read this yet so I avoided the area. I will plant them tomorrow.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 2, 2011
3:51 PM

Post #8403042

I got my seeds from Weezengreens. She sent a bunch of poppies and had mentioned they should still be good because she kept them in the freezer. She is a wealth of knowledge.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 3, 2011
2:40 AM

Post #8403819

neat

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 6, 2011
2:10 AM

Post #8409535

If it stops raining I'll check poppies ,maybe a pix.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

March 6, 2011
2:25 AM

Post #8409542

You can see ground Ge? This is exciting!!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 6, 2011
2:29 AM

Post #8409544

I'm embarrased to say YES its green.
We didnt get the amounts of snow you did after all.
Anything over 8 inches doesnt matter, snow is white,right?
What ever front is going thru that was supposed to dump 5-8 inches of snow on Monday, has gone further north so we will have rain.
Fine with me.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

March 6, 2011
2:32 AM

Post #8409546

I'm hoping to dodge this storm in forms of solid...hoping for more rain to melt this stuff. However...be careful what you wish for right? Flooding is going on all over right now!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 6, 2011
2:37 AM

Post #8409548

The day of rain and temps in the 50's helped.
Yes there were flood warnings. I dont worry about that. We are on a clay hill with big retaining ponds and a creek quite far off.
There is a lot of runoff going thru our yard. Thats "going thru " not building up.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 6, 2011
3:12 AM

Post #8409558

Its just barely light enough to see the ground is covered with snow. No poppy pix today unless it turns to rain.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 13, 2011
3:18 AM

Post #8423625

The snow is mostly gone and poppies that early germinated are still there. Thanks all you poppie people who didnt let me fall into a funk when I saw sprouts last November.
Its still pretty wet but I can see sprouts .
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 13, 2011
6:43 AM

Post #8423790

ge: If you plant them, they will grow! Isn't it fun?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 13, 2011
6:47 AM

Post #8423798

I am so psyched .April will reveal the direct sowed seeds I did in December.
msbeekeeper
sherwood park, AB
(Zone 3a)

March 14, 2011
9:55 AM

Post #8426263

I seeded OSPH last year and had great results. Ordered more and they are waiting in the fridge. Maybe some of the seeds need stratification.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 14, 2011
9:57 AM

Post #8426268

I had bad luck with OSPS last year. Somnifariums didnt germinate.
I am giving the same order a second chance if there are no poppies I will not order from them again.
timeinabottle
Louisville, KY

March 15, 2011
4:49 PM

Post #8429061

I started laurens grape on the basement floor as well as other perennial poppies. I have had great luck with them. The advantage of starting under lights is that you don't waste seed. I have given away a flat of o poppies and one of Laurens grape. I have planted out P naudical Laurens grape and P. carcneum. I have flats of alpine poppies, and O poppies Prince of Orange, Coral Reef and Princess Victoria Louise . I think thats right on the name of the last one.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 15, 2011
6:56 PM

Post #8429331

I haven't heard of half of them. They sound wonderful, will have to look them up. Good luck with them.
timeinabottle
Louisville, KY

March 15, 2011
7:12 PM

Post #8429390

Thanks Robyn. The Naudicals (iceland poppies) wilted down quite a bit when I transplanted them, but are standing up like little soldiers out in the garden...now if I can jus keep the rabbits away...They think my gardenis a smorgasbord.

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 15, 2011
8:25 PM

Post #8429557

I plant zinnias all around to help keep the rabbits away.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 16, 2011
2:19 AM

Post #8429716

good idea
timeinabottle
Louisville, KY

March 16, 2011
4:40 PM

Post #8431158

I'll give that a try.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 17, 2011
2:24 AM

Post #8431819

My early germinaters from Nov. are still hanging in there.
Snow gone and its great to walk the garden to see whats comming up

Robynznest

Robynznest
Pittsburg, MO
(Zone 6b)

March 17, 2011
5:24 AM

Post #8431964

I'm loving it, all kinds of poppies are popping up. Most excited about Lingholm. Although according to almanac end of next week major snow coming and then bitter cold after that. I am beginning to really hate winter.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 17, 2011
6:40 AM

Post #8432099

unanimous here
timeinabottle
Louisville, KY

March 17, 2011
5:32 PM

Post #8433212

Some of my babies taking the air on the pation . Many have already been planted are given away,

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 18, 2011
1:54 AM

Post #8433761

That sure is a great sight.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 19, 2011
3:11 AM

Post #8435850

Zone envy
timeinabottle
Louisville, KY

March 19, 2011
5:29 PM

Post #8437027

Joann

We have had a great spring so far. I hope it will be coming your way soon

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 20, 2011
1:55 AM

Post #8437636

I am hanging in there for more consistant warmth. Mostly to see what returnes but mainly to see where poppies are going to be. The sprouts are so small now and my eyesight is so bad, I need a 4 inch plant to be able to say for sure "Its a poppy"

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 2, 2011
6:45 AM

Post #8466607

This is a somnifarium that sprouted last Nov. at least thats when I first saw it.
Its held its own all winter.I believe the heat from the granit made survival possible.
It liiks like it will be happening this year.
No other late November seeds are showing.
I didnt see germinated seeds until late April last year so I'm not depressed,yet.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2011
1:37 PM

Post #8478692

I SEE POPPIES !!!!!
where I thought they were gonners.
Some of the early germinated ones are gonners.
The RyBean's are sprouting.I need a mag glass to see them but they are doing it.
I sowed them in late November. They missed the week of warm weather that germinated the others.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 8, 2011
6:09 AM

Post #8480148

Here are the teeny weenies
Venus annual poenia type

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 8, 2011
6:10 AM

Post #8480149

AND the Heritage and Ry Beaners

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rosymom
Plympton, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 20, 2011
8:55 AM

Post #8508725

Does anyone have any poppy seedling pics to post? I am having trouble figuring out what is a weed and what is a poppy!

Thanks :)

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 20, 2011
10:00 AM

Post #8508829

Here are some of mine. Its been so cold they havny made much progress.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 20, 2011
10:01 AM

Post #8508832

Had my eyes examined today the drops havnt worn off. Sorry if the focus is bad. Everything looks like this today

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 20, 2011
10:15 AM

Post #8508854

Here is the plant further on. Last years photo.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2011
4:28 AM

Post #8520970

I went to find the newly germd. poppies and couldnt get past the water in the edge.
Tons of larkspur.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 27, 2011
10:30 AM

Post #8524141

I was out today and saw bazillions of weenie poppies. I think its premature to look for germination before the out door temps are in the 60-70.We have had 48 hours of temps in the 70's with 60's at night. Poppies popping everywhere.
Especially where I thought I had lost them.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 8, 2011
4:12 AM

Post #8547190

I dont remember where I posted the pix of the germed poppy from last fall.
I obcessed about all the realy germinated ones.
I saw this one in Nov. barely 1/2 inch tall.
I figured it had heat from the granit slab it was next to.
I watched it all winter, sometimes thought it was dead.
It was still there in April and now its really churning along. It has to be the Nice Red that grew in the area.

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nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 18, 2011
12:29 PM

Post #8638590

I planted some red Corn Poppies (Papaver rhoeas) last year and a few of them reseeded and grew like crazy this year. All were single flowers last year, so imagine my surprise when this one bloomed! Is this normal? If I collect the seeds and replant, and I'm likely to get this same flower, or will it most likely be singles? It's on it's second bloom now, and the second one looks just like this one! It's so pretty! I'm positive that I had no flowers that looked like this last year!

Natalie

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 19, 2011
3:41 AM

Post #8639618

The gods have shinned on me.Picasa is working.Dont ask how it happened.Maybe Alison was right,maintenence maybe.
[HYPERLINK@picasaweb.google.com]

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 19, 2011
5:34 AM

Post #8639730

OPPS Try tis
https://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/BloomsJune19?authkey=Gv1sRgCLmT57msqf-96gE

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
7:19 AM

Post #8642116

Natalie I love that RED poppy.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
7:21 AM

Post #8642118

Very nice pics GE!
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

June 20, 2011
8:25 PM

Post #8643708

I have had annual poppies re-seeding for probably 20 years. It is so fun to see what shows up. Originally, they were all peony orchid blooms. Then, they started blooming with single coral petals with a lavender eye. This year, I have single pink, peony orchid, peony hot pink, peony red and the coral with the lavender eye. I have never bought seed for 20 years, they have just evolved.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 21, 2011
1:39 AM

Post #8643934

I love plants.
nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
10:35 AM

Post #8646913

I just asked my neighbor if he knew anything about my red poppy that I posted the picture of above. He said it's an Heirloom Poppy, but I don't know what that's supposed to mean! This is only my second year with annual poppies, and all of them are ones that came back from seed that was dropped from the ones I planted last year. The neighbor said I should cut down all of the other "regular" poppies so that there is less chance of these "heirloom" ones being cross-pollinated, and these should come back next year looking like the one above. I'd hate to cut down all the other regular poppies, but I'm totally willing to do it if it would give me a better chance of getting the ones that look like this very pretty one! Does anyone know if this is true?

Here's a picture of the ones that I'll have to cut down!

Natalie

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nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
10:42 AM

Post #8646924

Here is the plant that has the super frilly poppies that I'd love to get seed from. It's at the other end of the flower bed that I posted above.

Natalie

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 22, 2011
11:31 AM

Post #8647050

great photos.
I a not sure but they look like Shirlies.
nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
11:36 AM

Post #8647060

ge, They are Shirlies. The label said Red Corn Poppy, which is the same thing. I also bought a Shirley Corn Poppy Mix which didn't reseed nearly as well as the red ones did. I've only got 2 pink ones that came up this year from reseeding.

I'm seriously thinking about cutting all of the singles down in order to get some seeds from the super pretty one. It's strange that I didn't have even one of these in the garden last year, and all of them this year were from seeds that dropped last year, so I thought it was just a fluke. It may be just a fluke, but I'd sure love to get a whole garden full of these super pretty ones! I love the single poppies, but these are way better!

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 22, 2011
11:43 AM

Post #8647081

Do you mean the doubles?
I tries Shirlies and they just didnt like it here.
nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
12:07 PM

Post #8647143

ge, The singles are Shirlies for sure. The double, or whatever it is, came from one of the singles reseeding last year. I had none that looked like this last year, and I planted no new seed, so it has to be from one of the singles reseeding. My neighbor said it's an heirloom. The color is exactly like the singles, and in all the years I've lived here, I've never had a poppy appear on it's own, so it has to be from the Shirley seeds that I planted last year. The flower looks almost like a papery carnation!

Have you tried the red ones? They grew so much better for me than the other colors. My Dad grows them in his zone 3 garden and he also has better luck with the red ones.

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 22, 2011
3:30 PM

Post #8647530

I wonder if the double seeds will grow true or produce a random clump of singles and doubles.
nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
3:39 PM

Post #8647563

According to my neighbor they will be doubles if they aren't cross pollinated with the singles. His family owns one of the oldest nurseries in the area, so he probably knows what he's talking about, but I'd still like another opinion before I take out all the single poppies. They are all pretty, but I'd like to get a better chance of getting the doubles if I can. My Dad has been growing these for many years and has never seen a double. I bought the seeds from the same feed store in Oregon that he buys all of his seeds, and it's always the same supplier.

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 23, 2011
1:31 AM

Post #8648333

It will be interesting to see where this goes.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 26, 2011
1:54 AM

Post #8655059

Poppies and Fata Morgana lily,its so rainy and drippy they dont stay great looking.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 26, 2011
5:16 AM

Post #8655172

Love these with lilies and echies

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nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 3, 2011
2:04 PM

Post #8670051

I originally posted this on the Seed Collecting forum, but haven't had a reply, or I thought I'd try it here too. If anyone can help, I'd sure appreciate it!
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There is a very small art gallery not too far from me that has the most amazing pink poppies out front. For the last four years, I've tried to find someone there to ask if I could have a seed pod or two, without any luck. I've never seen the gallery open, so I've never been able to ask anyone! I've called and left messages, and taped a note or two to the door, but no one has returned my call. Whenever I think the seeds should be ready to harvest, I drive past and all of them have been cut down to the ground, and I can't find a trace of a seed head anywhere!

I'm wanting to know if I can cut the seed pods off before they are ready, and let them age at home. I've never tried this, so I have no idea if this will work or not. I have no idea what kind of poppies they are. I think they are probably annuals that reseed, but I'm not sure. I'm more than willing to cut off a few seed heads if they will survive, since the plant is cut to the ground every year.

Any help is most appreciated!

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 3, 2011
2:10 PM

Post #8670062

It is possible to cut pods.
It IS necessary to wait until the plants begin to wilt and the bottom leaves are browning,not necessarily all the way brown.

Cut the pods off but leave at least 1/2 to 2/3 rest of the stem and place the whole plant upside down in a paper bag. Let the plant continue to die off and seeds ripen.
Dont tie the bag too tight there needs to be air circulation .
The bag with plants should be allowed to mature in a warm dry spot,Garage, back porch or someplace other than a damp basement,


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nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 3, 2011
2:22 PM

Post #8670081

Thanks so much ge. That is exactly what I needed to know!

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 3, 2011
2:28 PM

Post #8670093

Good luck I hope you get to the poppies brfore they are gone again.
This is the method I use for annual somnifariums. I cant guarantee it will work on other annual varieties. If the plants are bluegreen serated leaves they are somnifariums. If the plants are light green or bright green they may be Shirlies.
I would give it a try in any event, just forthe heck of it.
I forgot to say,when the leaves are completely dead( about a month) there will be a deposit of seeds in the bottom of the bag.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

July 4, 2011
8:48 PM

Post #8672818

thanks from me also. I just pull mine up roots adn all, bundle them together two or three to a bunch (labeled) then hand them upside down in the garage from an overhead rack. Hadn't thought about trapping the seed heads in bags. And I suppose hanging the entire stalk just delays the drying process. I thought it might help them mature better. So perhaps not?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 5, 2011
2:47 AM

Post #8673036

My reason for nhuntly's cutting was so there wouldnt be any evidence of pulling.In a big patch its possible to select one here and one there so the patch doesnt look invaded.
Just incast the gallery has qualms about sharing their poppies.
I doubt they care.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 5, 2011
4:20 AM

Post #8673089

I have my eye on this bunch'a seed pods. I will yank this any day now.Its "Nice Red" I collected seeds from it 3 years ago,it was a great color in a Somnifarium mix.
I hope the browning leaves at the bottom show in this pix.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

July 5, 2011
8:32 AM

Post #8673520

so that yuck at the bottom of the plant happens to everyone. I thought I was overwatering or something. Looks yukky. But the plants are 3' tall and have tons of blooms with really thick stems. I will try the 'cut the stem' versus yanking roots and all. It makes a terrible mess in my garage.
nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 5, 2011
9:39 AM

Post #8673664

I can't imagine that the gallery would mind if I took a seed pod or two, but I doubt they would appreciate me yanking out an entire plant! Then again, they have so many, I doubt they would even notice, but I'm not about to do something like that! They cut them down to the ground every year as soon as they are looking a bit ragged, and if I could find someone there, I'd prefer to ask permission, but I'm just going to take a couple of pods. No harm done that way, and I don't feel like I'm stealing anything. I can tell that they are dragging them to the dumpster because of the trail of stuff left behind, and the plants are never done blooming when they do this.

I've never yanked my plants out to save seeds. I just let the seed pods dry on the plant and cut them when they are ready. I put the pods with some stem in a bag and let the seeds fall out over time, or I'll shake the pods to remove the seeds if I have nothing better to do. I can't imagine the mess from hanging the whole plant in the garage! I was just worried about cutting the pods off before they were dry, since I know I'll miss my chance to get a couple at the galary if I wait that long.

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 5, 2011
9:39 AM

Post #8673666

O K just leave quite a bit of stem.This continues to nourish the seedpod while the seeds ripen.
Thick stem pulling would knock me over.
nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 5, 2011
9:45 AM

Post #8673680

ge, I'll do that. I need to go see how they are doing, but I'm hoping to cut a very long stem, and hopefully it will have some leaves on it too. When cutting the pods in my own yard, I just wait until they are dry and cut the stem back to where it branches off the main stem. That way I have something to hang on to if I decide to shake them.

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 5, 2011
10:25 AM

Post #8673766

I harvest pods because sometimes the original plant is in an area where its not wanted. Just a controle issue with me.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 5, 2011
10:26 AM

Post #8673770

This is Hens and Chicks a new variety for me.

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nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 5, 2011
10:58 AM

Post #8673839

I like that one ge!

Seems like I'm outside cutting off pods half the day because I also have them growing where I don't want them! They are so pretty that I hate removing them when they are seedlings, but I know how out of control they can get. Last year I had a bed just for poppies and wildflowers, but I had so many seeds in there that it was insane. This year, I tried pulling up most of what came back from seed, and it's much better, but it's still out of control. The poppies this year are HUGE compared to last year, so at least I know what to do with them now!

Natalie
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

July 5, 2011
7:09 PM

Post #8674851

I did not know you could cut the stems off while the pods are still green. I did not think they would ripen. I have been waiting until the pods are dry and brittle. By then, the goldfinch have eaten the seed and what they did not eat, has fallen on the ground. Then, in spring, I have so many poppies, I can't seem to get them thinned out enough. My poppies are dead, now. I am pulling up the plants now as they look awful. So, it's too late for me to control the poppies this year, but next year, I will be able to do a much better job.
Thanks, ge for the info.
I am surprised to see pictures of poppies and lilies together. My lilies are blooming now. My poppies bloom in the spring.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

July 5, 2011
7:11 PM

Post #8674859

My poppies and lilies will bloom about the same time. or rather, the poppies, not alpine, but the other big guys, are just now starting, so they will be going strong clear up til the lilies start, and some time after.
nhuntley
Holladay, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 5, 2011
8:38 PM

Post #8675022

My first lily just opened today, and the poppies are still blooming like crazy, but the bottom leaves are starting to die on some. I love it that they are blooming at the same time because I think they go really well together!

Natalie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 6, 2011
1:20 AM

Post #8675280

Birder ! are we talking about Oriental Poppies that bloom in late May here?
Or annual poppies that bloom in July here in z 6
GardenQuilts
Pocono Mountains, PA
(Zone 6a)

July 6, 2011
3:35 AM

Post #8675329

Putting a little scissor in your bag and a few envelops makes saving seeds easier. They came in handy when I gathered some poppy seeds from the post office and some dianthus in front of the pizza parlor. I have a system. Winston the pug creates a diversion by peeing on a tree while I gather the seeds...

Rabbits are nibbling my California poppies. I hope they manage to drop a few seeds for next year before they disappear. My lettuce remains untouched.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

July 6, 2011
7:39 AM

Post #8675773

No, man, I wish they were the Oriental Poppies! I can't get them to grow to save myself. I have planted them from seed for about four years now, and I don't have a single Oriental Poppy. I did buy some O. P. 'Victoria Louise' from a garden cntr, this spring. They were growing nicely. Then, I had a fire hydrant put in that garden. They put it in the wrong place where I would have had to walk across the garden to turn the faucet on and drag the hose across all of my plants. I will show you a picture because I like to "wail" about this every chance I get! :)

I really didn't know there were more than two kinds of poppies until I started reading on this website. I love the poppies--all of them. I purchased some Iceland Poppies this spring -they also went "south" with the hydrant. I am not sure if they would have come back anyway, but I would have liked to have seen if they would. I moved some of the flowers thinking they would not need the WHOLE garden to put in the hydrant.

The poppies I have used to be Peony Poppies. I have had them for 20 years or so. Now, most of them are the Poppy sominiferum with coral petals and lavender eyes (beautiful). This year, I had orchid peony poppies, red peony poppies, pink peony poppies, pink sominferum and the coral/lavender poppies. They are so interesting and fun to see what color I will have next year.

This garden was full of flowers. Here it is now:


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Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 7, 2011
7:12 AM

Post #8677885

Hi everyone, I was wondering if any one has had luck growing Peshawar Poppies? I want to get something white, that's no taller than 2' and blooms about late June to early July and they seem a perfect fit. So if anyone knows a good source for seeds please share. I placed a decent order of Poppy seeds from one stop poppies last year and I don't think I had even one germinate. One of the varieties was the Peshawar, so I won't order from there again. I sowed similar varieties of Poppies I got from other sources at the same time in the same spots and the ones from other sources germinated so I am pretty sure they didn't send good seeds. I found a site Poppy Seed Dreams, I'm thinking of ordering from the but they don't have Peshawar. :(
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

July 8, 2011
1:21 PM

Post #8680587

I just love those purple poppies, Audrey Purple I believe

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meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 9, 2011
6:51 AM

Post #8681724

meredith79

I thank you for the link as I have enjoyed poppies in others yards, never had much luck with them up north, so now I'm going to give them another shot. (Just hope I can keep this link away from DH eyes...lol)

Jan

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2011
3:16 AM

Post #8722463

Has anyone grown these?
I bought the seeds for the first time. As stated by tyhe seed cat. the flowers arent much but thye pods are interesting.
Either this plant is not Hens n Chicks or they are just not old enough to put on the ruffly skirts.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2011
3:17 AM

Post #8722464

Thats what they are supposed to look like. These are minenow.

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Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 29, 2011
6:35 AM

Post #8722743

They definitely don't look like the first picture! Where did you get them from? I'll make sure to never get Hens & Chicks from there! I feel like finding good sources for poppy seeds is tough so it's good if we help each other avoid bad sources! Were the poppies at least pretty?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2011
6:49 AM

Post #8722787

No they were really average red and single petaled. The company said they wouldnt be fantastic flowers,so I didnt pay much attention,waiting for the pods to be fun.
Pixie sent me a few seeds and I ordered more from Swallowtail seeds. I have gone into my reasons for not buying from One Stop Poppy Shop. Look in Garden Watchdog and other poppy posts for the reason.Too long to go into here.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

July 29, 2011
6:56 AM

Post #8722799

Not sure if mine are going to produce the 'skirt' either Jo.

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pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

July 29, 2011
6:59 AM

Post #8722805

I'll grow them again for the flower.

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pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

July 29, 2011
7:03 AM

Post #8722811

Love the frilly ones. :)

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Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 29, 2011
7:11 AM

Post #8722823

Joann I've been hunting for Poppy seeds and all the palces that are advertising Hens and Chicks show flowers that look like Pixie's above. Pink with a purple blotch so I'm pretty sure if they were red they probably weren't Hens and Chicks :( So disapointing, so where did you get the ones that were red and supposed to be hens and chicks again?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2011
7:18 AM

Post #8722835

This collage shows the last H&C to bloom ever,all other blooms are gone and seed pods are all that remaines. The other pix in the collage was taken of another plant earlier this month

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2011
7:20 AM

Post #8722840

I hate to be a wet blanket but check Swallowtail seeds for the flower. Its red.
I believe Pixies purple and dark throat are Heirloom poppies mix.
The trouble with poppies the colors change with bees working I think,not positive.

MY BAD I just googled and found both reds and pinks and purples.

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pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

July 29, 2011
7:27 AM

Post #8722852

I have the same red...I believe they are Breadseed Poppies.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2011
7:57 AM

Post #8722893

hMMMMMM
GardenQuilts
Pocono Mountains, PA
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2011
8:07 AM

Post #8722907

Zinnias keep the rabbits away???? They have been eating the California poppies to the ground and are moving on to my roses, clematis and dahlias. They are completely ignoring my lettuce. I have some extra seeds. It may be late, but I am planting more around !!!

I have been cleaning out the fridge - using up any hot pepper sauce on diy rabbit-be-gone. Winston the pug is a pacifist. He sits and watches the bunnies jumping around. He only chases pomeranians. (He is a doggy racist, and hates little yappy dogs) He is a little, mostly quiet dog himself.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 29, 2011
2:04 PM

Post #8723649

Perhaps they come in different colors, but every picture I've seen of them showing the actual pod and flowers in the same shot are pink ones... http://www.flickr.com/photos/15565106@N00/3757228517/

I have a feeling if they aren't pink they are cross bred and maybe only some get the funky pods.

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shihtzumom
Pearisburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

February 18, 2012
11:09 PM

Post #9011684

[quote="pixie62560"]I have the same red...I believe they are Breadseed Poppies.[/quote]

This is beautiful - where did you get the seeds for this lovely red?

I am new to poppies. I had some volunteers 2 years ago and have loved them. I ordered some seeds from ebay but didn't know enough to put them in the refrig or plant them early.

Kathy

shihtzumom
Pearisburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

February 18, 2012
11:12 PM

Post #9011686

Pixie - did Post #8330812
above come from the Shirley Poppy mix? That is beautiful.

So should I try OSPS or another source? With the crazy weather I don't know if I trust scattering them outside so I will use the freezer! - is a week long enough?

I also think I sow to thick. Or just had poor luck with the ebay seeds. I had only a couple from each packet to produce a flower.
Kathy

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 19, 2012
3:23 AM

Post #9011709

Just my thoughts on the freezer idea. I am recieving some annual poppies this week. I will freeze them until May when we normally plant annuals of any kind in Z6.I havnt used the freezer method before but it makes sense.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 19, 2012
7:25 PM

Post #9012635

Hey ge, I'm so glad you got this thread going. I ordered seeds from OSPS, and they've been in the freezer since early December. I plan on putting them out in the next few weeks, sown on top of the soil, so I'll be watching for your 2012 thread to get some good hints about poppy care. Any hints about how to stop the birds from eating the poppy seeds?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 20, 2012
2:42 AM

Post #9012811

Sorry I dont have any bird advise. I must be really dense because I blammed bad gardener and then OSPS for no germination.
I have some screen from our door .It comes in a roll from HD.We use it to keep pine needles out of the water reserv so the pump doesnt clogg.
I usually sow my seeds on a area thats 2 feet square,sometimes smaller. I dont broadcast or scatter them and I sow them fairly dense,Like pepper on eggs. This way ,when they germinate I can id them and I dont walk on them or pull them out as weeds.
I plan to lay screen down amd anchor with stones. Keep an eye out for germination and take the screen off when you can see th plants.
I wouldnt think the birds would eat germinated seed.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

February 20, 2012
6:15 AM

Post #9012970

I was thinking about the same thing, with keeping the seeds where you want them, not blown away or in a critter's path. Whether it be a bird eating them or a kitty that decides to go potty where you put your precious seeds! Someone once gave me the idea to use a milk jug or soda bottle with the bottom cut off and a stake through the hole to keep them from blowing away. It would make a mini greenhouse, similar to a winter sowing container too. It is a great idea but I've never actually tried it. Maybe this year I will!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 20, 2012
6:19 AM

Post #9012975

I will do that too. Its easier than unrolling the mesh I found. I dont see the door screen anywhere.. The diameter of the bottle bottom is just right for the areas I have available.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 20, 2012
9:37 AM

Post #9013305

I have used the open bottom milk jug for sowing larkspur seed. It helped me identify the Larkspur seed from weeds. It worked pretty well. I have trouble identifying larkspur seedlings from Love in a Mist seedlings. Larkspur is up and going strong--about three inches.

My poppies are up and going strong - about 3 inchs. Some of the areas are covered with poppy plants. They are the annuals.

I was weeding some of the flower beds in the past month on sunny, no wind days, and I found some exciting little seedlings and re-growth of plants from roots. I "may" have some Orental poppies this year. I planted Oriental Poppy seeds, in situ last year, and I think I may have some Oriental poppies. I have been trying for years for O. poppies. The foliage looks rougher, thicker and tougher than the annual poppies. Maybe someone can tell me if the foliage on O. Poppies looks different than the foliage on annual poppies.

I think the combination of Larkspur and Poppies is very pretty. However, larkspur did not come up where my poppies are. I have larkspur blooming amongst roses and it is quite striking.

I am going to try to transplant some Larkspur to where the Poppies are. They too, resent being moved. They have the long carrot like root like poppies. It's sunny today. I believe I will do it today.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
10:37 AM

Post #9013402

this is a shot from early spring last year of orientals coming up. I will look for better ones.

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timeinabottle
Louisville, KY

February 20, 2012
10:46 AM

Post #9013412

Here are 2 shots of orientals. I think these may be self sown.The 3rd shot is of some popaver somniferum from seeds started in the basement 3 weeks ago. I hope this helps.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
10:48 AM

Post #9013418

I also found a better shot. the ones in front left are regular poppies, the big fuzzy ones in back and one clump to the lower right are orientals

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 20, 2012
10:58 AM

Post #9013429

Those hairie leaves are a giveaway.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
11:34 AM

Post #9013473

I found this picture of my poppy 'hill'. It has quite a blend of the grape, lavender, black etc. Oh well, as long as I am showing them. Here is one of the lavender that I call doubles or peony form sort of. And a closeup of the so called black.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 20, 2012
11:55 AM

Post #9013503

Where did the black poppies originally come from?
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
12:28 PM

Post #9013540

I got them from another DG'r fall of 2010.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

February 20, 2012
4:13 PM

Post #9013851

I haven't had any luck with Oriental Poppies. I had some seedlings that grew back for a couple years but never made it to flower and disappeared. I've also tried mature plants and they didn't come back. However they were very pot bound when I bought them, so that could have done them in.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 20, 2012
4:35 PM

Post #9013888

Oberon, love your poppies. I've got Voilet Feathers and Black Cloud seeds that are dark like those, and I'm looking foward to seeing them bloom. I finally got my lazy butt in the yard today and started planting some of my poppy seeds. I put out Pink Skyline-a peony form, Meconopsis Lingholm, wish me luck with that one, some of White Cloud, and some of the mixed peony doubles. Most were sprinkled on the ground, and I put a few in pots. I gave them a light mist, since the dirt was already wet from the rain we'd had over the last few days. I'm soooo excited to see what gonna happen. Annette

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
4:42 PM

Post #9013893

Be sure to plant the meconopsis in the shade where you would plant hosta or ferns. Your heat down there out in the open would be pretty warm for them. I planted some last year in colors I don't have and managed to get one to germinate and was fairly healthy in the fall when it disappeared under the snow. I have my fingers crossed that it survivies. Should be either white or yellow.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 20, 2012
4:52 PM

Post #9013908

Thanks so much for the advice :~). That was exactly where they got planted, in the bed that only gets brief morning sun, that already has hostas, cora bells, bleeding heart, and some azaleas planted. It's the coolest side of the house, right outside my kitchen window. This past fall I planted a flat of champagne mix poppies there, and they're doing extremely well.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
4:57 PM

Post #9013912

Great. Sounds like the right mix. I read somewhere that it takes sometimes over 300 days for the meconopsis to germinate. I don't think mine took that long. I put them in milk jugs that got rolled by the wind. What a mess. but I kept the jugs and eventually two little plants germinated. Little tiny guys. And one survived. I put them in a moist place between a spruce, fence, and my shed that gets virtually no sun til way late in the afternoon. Seemed to work. It is only about a space 4' deep and 2' wide. At the back by the fence are my blue poppies, then a fern, then a bergenia and a little fringed bleeding heart. It was the first summer for them so this year they should all be well filled in. Good use of a pretty useless space.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 20, 2012
5:13 PM

Post #9013948

Sounds like you did a great job with the space. I did winter sow Lingholm last year on January 8th, it did germinate, only 2 of the seeds from what I remember, and we had a bad storm, and some of my jugs got knocked over, and I lost it. I left the bottle that those were sown in outside in the garden, in shade. I should check it so see if anything is growing this year, LOL.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
5:22 PM

Post #9013956

Hey. That would be neat. And it is entirely possible. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 20, 2012
6:35 PM

Post #9014058

Thanks, I'll check tomorrow and let you know.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

February 20, 2012
8:07 PM

Post #9014175

Here's a good picture of Oriental Poppy leaves:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sue_10512/3448009395/

Mine leaves are pretty "hairy" so I think they are Orientals. I noticed on this picture the more mature leaves are more dissected and the younger leaves aren't.

Some of my poppy leaves are even more dissected than the above picture. I am guessing those are O.P. as well. I also have a few Icland Poppies. I could not find a good picture of the Iceland Poppy leaves.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 21, 2012
6:37 PM

Post #9015237

I checked the old container of Meconopsis Lingholm, no further germination. I was able to sow some Fire and Ice seeds this afternoon.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 21, 2012
7:35 PM

Post #9015315

Crumb...

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 22, 2012
2:48 AM

Post #9015479

I got poppy seeds in the mail and they went into the freezer. I will sow in milk bottleswith no bottoms until germination,in May.I am assumeing birds got seeds in years past.
I'll try anything to have a nice stand of poppies.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

February 22, 2012
6:26 AM

Post #9015621

Me too! I had no poppies last year! I put down lots of seeds too!
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 22, 2012
6:36 AM

Post #9015636

That could very well be what happened to my seeds, too. I never thought of the birds.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 22, 2012
7:26 AM

Post #9015693

I just cant believe the birds get them all. It would account for the poppies that come up really close to and into other plants. Birds just donr see the seeds
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 22, 2012
7:42 AM

Post #9015726

Oh well, I'm going to plants this year, anyway.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 22, 2012
8:03 AM

Post #9015757

Should we start a new thread? Something with a Part 2 in the name so people can find us. I could do so but someone else would have to put in the link.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 22, 2012
8:17 AM

Post #9015780

Here we go:new thread:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1149346/#new
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

February 22, 2012
9:24 AM

Post #9015853

Great. Thanks.
shihtzumom
Pearisburg, VA
(Zone 7a)

February 22, 2012
7:51 PM

Post #9016598

keep watching - glad the thread is alive
kathy

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 3, 2012
5:19 AM

Post #9027944

that link just brings me right back here?

Jan

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 3, 2012
5:55 AM

Post #9028002

Sorry about that try this:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1243730/

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 9, 2012
7:09 AM

Post #9035627

thanks for the updated link.

Jan
MGMan
Norfolk, VA

December 24, 2012
9:45 PM

Post #9366481

Popping poppy the seeds in the freezer will somewhat hasten germination.

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

March 4, 2013
6:37 AM

Post #9438206

Hello Poppies lovers. I am a fan of poppies but had very little experience with the culture of these lovely flowers. I did have a couple of perennial Oriental poppies that survived in the garden for several years in the past. The annual varieties? Not so much. Recently I purchased some 'Mission Bells', 'Orange' the 2 cultivars of eschscholzia californica. I also have 'Lauren's Grape' and 'Hungarian Blue' Papaver somniferum. All of which are labeled "Annual Fullsun".

Of everyone's shared experience all of which are very helpful. However, Annette's zone is very much like mine. So my question goes to Annette, will these take full sun in our garden or can they tolerate some filtered shade? Also this late in the season, is it too late for me to sow them directly outdoor? The seeds packages are from Colorado, so I presumed that these have been pre-chilled. But, if it's too late to sow them now, should I go ahead and put them in the freezer now and wait until Fall sowing?
I appreciate everyone input and tips.
Kim

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 4, 2013
6:55 AM

Post #9438220

I can speak for Laurens Grape. If you still have a month of cold weatrher,not necessarily freezing but no days in the 60's or 70' for a prolonged period,I would give sowing a try.
I sowed in March here and had success.

The period of cold should be at least a few weeks.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 6, 2013
12:14 PM

Post #9440892

Hey Kim, I direct sowed some of my seeds in part sun, on 1/2/13, and they germinated within 17 days, on 1/19/13. These were seeds that I ordered from One Stop Poppy Shoppe in 2011, that have been stored in my freezer to keep them fresh. The seeds that were sowed in late December germinated in less than 3 weeks.

The poppies that I grew last year were also grown in the same area. As you know, it gets blazingly hot here very quickly in the spring, and I wanted the plants to do well, and have the blooms last longer by giving some protection from the full sun.

I would sow some of the seeds now, we still have some cool days ahead, with nights in the 30-40's. Annette
Seedfork
Enterprise, AL
(Zone 8b)

March 6, 2013
12:29 PM

Post #9440910

I tried a few California Orange poppies last year, they looked pretty good for a while then started turning yellow and died. I think I over watered them. This year I tried some more, I have about 8 plants planted in the garden, they were starting to turn yellow when I read an article that said to plant them, then water them, then don't water them anymore. So I have not watered them since and they are looking much better. Mine are planted in full sun, California Poppy, that just sounds like full sun to me, is that right? I started these from seed and then transplanted them into the garden, now I a second batch of little seedlings and from what I am reading I need to get them transplanted into the gardenl pretty quickly. I was wating for the weather to warm up, guess I should have been taking avantage of the cold weather.

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Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

March 6, 2013
1:07 PM

Post #9440962

Thanks Joann, and Annette for your reply. I'm going to try some of the annual poppies this week. It has been cold and rather windy to spend any time outdoor, but I'll brave the cold and wind. Seedfork, good lucks with yours and keep us all posted how yours will turn out? I'll have some left over seeds those I'll store in the freezer, freezer is recommended as everyone has said? Not the frig. but freezer for poppy seeds storage is correct right?
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 6, 2013
2:03 PM

Post #9441025

I store my seeds in the freezer. I read somewhere that they can be kept like this for several years. Best of luck Kim and Seedfork with your poppies.

The weather here is also cold, dark, dank and very windy with occasional snow flurries, which was not in the weather forecast for our area. We're still at 39 degrees right now ;-(
Seedfork
Enterprise, AL
(Zone 8b)

March 6, 2013
2:34 PM

Post #9441049

Thanks, to both of you. I will transplant my other California Poppies tomorrow if the wind slacks up some.

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

March 6, 2013
2:42 PM

Post #9441059

Here is looking forward to Spring. The Daf. is one I planted this late Fall. The second pix is a Star Magnolia in my neighbor's yard. Thanks all for sharing your thought and idea. Happy spring sowing.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 7, 2013
1:57 AM

Post #9441510

Wishing good luck to all who are starting annual poppies.I have never tried to sow after mid March in Zone 6.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 7, 2013
4:28 AM

Post #9441561

I would like to have a lake in my backyard! LOL!! I don't do anything special with my Cal poppies. They just reseed themselves. Mike

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

March 7, 2013
4:46 AM

Post #9441576

Two important factors that influence the germination of poppies seeds. 1. Sunlight. 2. Prechilled condition. I'm having a second thought about sowing them now JoAnn. I may just toss them in the freezer and wait until Fall. For although, it's still cold outside, one can tell that spring is right at our heels here in the South. Yah, another missed opportunity. I saw local nursery caries some healthy looking Oriental Poppies (perennial), I may opt for a few of those instead.

Mike, to get them established in the garden, then it's worried free. My problem is if I missed Autumn sowing I missed the prechilled condition that the seeds require.

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

March 9, 2013
1:45 PM

Post #9444020

Hah, it's known that poppies don't take transplanting well. But I broke down and risked the chances. There is this kind gardener in my area, he has some established annual poppies that he shared with me in the past. I paid him a visit yesterday, and pleaded with him that I would so love some. He advised me that they don't transplant well. I promised him that if I succeed, I'll take pictures and bring back to show him my success. He gave me these annual poppies which I planted today. The day is a good day to transplant for it's cloudy, and temp. in 60'ish out there. Go figure, last weekend we were expecting snow flurries, this weekend is totally SPRING!

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

March 9, 2013
6:40 PM

Post #9444312

I have transplanted lots of poppies - even perennials where I wanted to place them in particular places after preening for weeds. Has always worked great. Maybe our cooler weather is the reason it works

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 10, 2013
1:03 AM

Post #9444460

Annual poppy transplant never works for me.It takes a week or more to realize it isnt working.
Perennial poppies transplant great if I wait until late summer dormancy.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

March 10, 2013
12:29 PM

Post #9444881

I started a new thread for 2013. The other one was interesting but spanned 2011-2013.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1301789/

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