On January 3rd I planted 4 containers of Morning Glories, using four seeds in each. I had soaked them in water for two days before planting. They are outside (I'm in Cocoa Beach, FL). It has been unusually cool here but some did germinate. The planting medium is commercial potting soil Fafard 3B which I purchased at Ace Hardware. The four containers are labeled Cameo Elegance from Burpee, Beni Chidori from 2007 trade, Cameo Elegance from Swallowtail Gardens and Mini-Bar Rose from Parks. The containers are 32 oz. yogurt containers and receive the same amount of water and sunlight. These first pictures were taken today. I will try to update pictures weekly. And in case you noticed I did attach the signs to the containers with my quilting pins.
Cameo Elegance seed from Swallowtail Gardens isn't showing any activity as of today. The current temperature is 58 with rain and a high for today predicted at 68. I will post weekly, so next pictures on Monday the 24th.
Excellant! And thanks! Gosh the seeds from your mail box mix grew inside and bloomed and gave seeds to me. Starting on the next little pot of seeds from that packet now. These were the 2009 seeds you sent.
it is interesting that the trade seeds came up first and look the best. makes one wonder how old the seeds are in the big box/seed catalogs are.
I've had some that took months to germinate, so I definitely wouldn't write them off yet. The seeds should stay good for many years, so unless something happened during the soaking period, I would think that they will eventually germinate and grow. It will be interesting to see the leaves, growth habits, and blooms on each of them. Are you going to separate each vine out or keep each cultivar together in the same container?
I haven't gotten that far, but I did think I would isolate them by sending them off to different locations to keep them from cross pollinating. Many condo dwellers have patios and would help me out in my field trial. I belong to a group of gardeners that are called the NightBloomers. We meet in the evening at the local library and share cuttings and info. It's a very nice group of local people. I'll bring it up and see what they think. Several are Master Gardeners.
I probably planted too soon as our weather has been cooler and much wetter and windier than usual. I will not bring them inside. No matter what the weather brings they will stay outside. I did try to move them into a more protected location where they will get more sunshine. Time will tell. Any comments?
Mittsy - Is there a plant in the Burpee's Cameo Elegance cup? I can't see it.
Yes ... this winter weather has been very unpredictable. None of the MGs I had outside survived. Only the ones growing indoors under lights are still growing and blooming for me. Did you have any seeds left of each cultivar? I am thinking if these current vines don't do too well, you could always start more in the Spring.
I would cover them with a thin layer of vermiculite just for root coverage and extra insulation against the cold. I think it is great that overall they are showing some germination for the zone you are in outside. Just my 2 cents worth. If my lap top was working I would show you some beautiful blooms of the mitsys mail box blooms I have going on here.. ( inside)
Great documentation of your seed growing on Cameo Elegance.
On the one that Becky asked if there was a seed in Burpee cup? That cup had a set of cotyledons in the first photo, was it an albino, it had a label that said Burpee? did it die or did the labels get mixed ? Also, it could be i"m seeing things..
Let me know if you need anymore seeds for the Burpee's strain Jan 17 at 6:04 AM. This is the post that has a photo of a cotyledon in the cup, I don't know what the label say's though, I have to go enlarge the photo.
I think they died as the stems are still visible. It went to 71 yesterday so if it continues to warm up, I'll try planting more seeds. The labels weren't mixed. I was very careful about the labeling, both the cup rim and my engraved labels. I have 2 seeds left. Of the others,I have 1 seed Cameo Elegance from Swallowtail gardens and 6 seeds from Parks Minibar Rose. No more from Beni Chidori.
Took these pictures today. Still only two containers showing any plants. The rim of the pot has more info and the engraved signs are clearly readable. Still cooler than normal here. No sign of germination on the last two seeds I planted but i did find a surprise growing at the base of my banana clump. See next posting.
The only sign of spring is my double pink Kalanchoe. Looking pretty good! Tomato seedlings are growing very slowly. Have limited seeds with me so hesitate to plant any more until it really starts to warm up.
Mittsy - Your seedlings are looking great! They will start taking off very soon! And what a nice surprise to see a volunteer sprouting. I have several volunteer MGs sprouting in their original pots, too! They are growing with poppies! Should be interesting to see how that combo looks! LOL!
Your double pink Kalanchoe are beautiful! I had Kalanchoe plants for many years, but the frost got them a couple years ago. Yours are the first pink blooms I've seen!
Mittsy, I'll be sending you some more next week, give me a couple of days to dig them up again. Take your time in sowing them and don't worry about results, I'll send enough for you to play with.. Should I mail to the same address? Let me know.
Mittsy - The Swallowtail Garden Cameo Elegance foliage is BEAUTIFUL! I think that is what makes that cultivar so well-known. Never disappoints! What a gorgeous plant you have growing! Your mini-rose bar is coming along very nicely, too! Not as much variegation showing in the leaves, but still a lovely vine! I can't wait to see your blooms. Have you fertilized them yet with Bloom Booster or some other blooming fertilizer?
Your experiment gave me inspiration to try the same. Yours look really good. All mine germinated, but I will prolly start over. I just wanted to see how the seedmart, seedsnmore and trade seeds went of the same type seeds.
The leaves look very healthy on yours, and I am still enjoying blooms daily from Mittsys Mailbox seed growouts in the brug room, and blooms from Karens shibouris in the outer room.
I had a few volunteer seedlings come up and I took them to a friends house as I do not want cross pollination between C E and other varieties. I hope I will get seeds from the Cameo Elegance grow out as I really like the foliage. We'll be leaving here the first week of May, so I have some time left. I have been known to fill the car with "Growin Things" had a grape tomato plant that made the trip for 5 years before we got tired of dragging it back and forth.
Mittsy - Ohrstrom's maxicrop Liquid Seaweed? Is that a fertilizer like Fish Emulsion? Sounds interesting. I take it that you get good results from using that product? I've never seen it here. Where do you get it?
I am glad that you are keeping them seperated so that they don't cross pollinate. You are doing a great job! You should start seeing buds soon! And definitely before May.
LOL about dragging a tomato plant back and forth for 5 years! Sounds like something I would do! :-)
Ace Hardware for the fertilizer gotta support the local stores if you want to keep them. Heard about it last year from the Orchid club, expensive, but worth it. I had a bright pink bloom on my Cameo Elegance yesterday morning. That's what prompted me to more all others. I've been harvesting my tiny orange sweet peppers, eating them and collecting the seeds. I'm willing to share them to anyone who could give me a few dill seeds. I have herb seeds back in NY so I really don't want to buy more. Do miss my fresh herbs though. Only have oregano, and thyme and some mint and lemon balm from my daughter.
My plantings are hanging on the wall outside. I am in Cocoa Beach, Florida. I didn't take a picture of the bloom as I am more interested in the foliage than the little bright pink flowers. I hope I can get enough seeds that I'll be able to decorate my NY mailbox. Can't do much with a condo mailbox! The weather has been wonderful, finally got back to my shorts and sandals. I'll try for a picture next time I get a bloom.
Mittsy - I am wondering if the white border around the petals on the blooms might also be different and another way to distinguish the cultivars apart? Which is why I was curious to see the blooms. I look forward to more of your educational photos! You are doing a great job!
I heard that we have a front moving in tomorrow with rain and then cool temps again! Ugh! Will be in the 50's at night and low 70's during the daytime.
I cut some of my bananas today. Needed to get them off the wall as they were hanging over into neighbor's yard. Temps are great, cool to sleep at night. Sunny and nice during the day. We heard the sonic boom when the shuttle returned, but we didn't see it as it was north of us. I love it here.
I can hardly wait for weather like yours.. today should be nice here. But, it seems to turn cold at a whim.
I also ordered veggies seeds from Parks but they have not arrived, I called them and they said they were backordered... so, I'll keep waiting, I did get a clematis I've been wanting forever, Texensis Princess Diana and my order for Red Sugar Cane came in yesterday... so, I'm off to transplanting them now into temporary pots indoors. HURRY SPRINGTIME...
Mittsy - Yay!!! How pretty! Boy they sure look great!
One thing I am noticing in comparison between the mini-bar rose and the Cameo Elegance is that the CE has more variegation on the leaves. But interestingly, the leaf shape looks very similar. I can't wait to see the blooms on MBR! Keep up the great job growing those babies!
Flowers to compare. Both the Cameo Elegance and Mini Bar Rose bloomed at the same time. Cameo Elegance is on the left, one bloom and Mini Bar Rose is the two flowers on the right. I think they look the same.
I noticed that the Cameo Elegance has a wider white border around the edge of the bloom. But from the photo, the foliage sure looks identical! Nice job, Mittsy!!!! And the blooms seem to be comparable in size! Perhaps this JMG came to America and a seed company here remained it?
I checked this morning and the Cameo Elegance had very little white on the edges of the bloom. I think they are the same. I want to move them to my trellis so I expect we can close this comparison trial. I need to get some seed so I want to put them into the ground. The yogurt containers worked pretty well but it's time to repot my tomato seedlings and I need the containers.
LOL! Well, go for it Mittsy! Thank you for doing this comparison for all of us! You did a great job growing, documenting, and photographing each of the plants! The variegation on the leaves really makes these vines a beautiful addition to our gardens and the blooms are a lovely shade of deep pink.
I do believe they are the same vine just by different names ... probably different companies renamed them as their own cultivars.