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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:00 AM

Post #8315402

2010 was my first year growing Daturas. My dad purchased and collected several different varieties and split them with me. We began starting our seeds in February 2010. I started my seeds in my basement constructing a small grow room in an unused closet. He started his in his sun room. With neither of us having prior seed starting experience, we made it a point to compare notes daily and trade pictures( my dad lives in SC and I reside in IL). We were both thrilled with the results not to mention the added excitement of seeing and talking about each others progress. Much of my seed starting knowledge was gained from this forum so I thought other members might enjoy seeing my pics as much as I have enjoyed seeing yours.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:10 AM

Post #8315419

Once I got started I just couldn't help myself. I just keep adding more lights and more seeds.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:11 AM

Post #8315421

What started out as seemingly unlimited space quickly became rather cramped.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:13 AM

Post #8315426

When it came time to put them outside new beds had to be put in.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:18 AM

Post #8315440

I underestimated the amount of work and time involved.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:20 AM

Post #8315448

But when the blooms started coming on, it proved to be well worth it.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:23 AM

Post #8315454

Of course the next step was buying a new camera capable of capturing the beautiful blooms and doing them justice.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:25 AM

Post #8315457

The next issue would be the bugs and off I went to buy insecticide

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:27 AM

Post #8315463

As bad as the bugs were, their damage to the leaves never seemed to slow down the blooms.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:29 AM

Post #8315470

Although the battle of the bugs lasted all summer long, I did succeed in ridding the majority of them.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:31 AM

Post #8315475

I found it amazing the amount of damage they could inflict over night

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:35 AM

Post #8315483

The bugs seemed to dislike the flavor of the Inoxia, almost leaving them alone completely.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:40 AM

Post #8315492

I averaged 20+ new blooms a day

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:43 AM

Post #8315498

The fragrance produced from the Inoxia was splendid

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:47 AM

Post #8315500

The Tatula was my least favorite due to smaller flowers and almost weed like plant, but it still produced beautiful blooms

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
11:56 AM

Post #8315515

This seed packet was labeled Datura Unforgettable. Out of three seeds only one germinated, I found the blooms to be very appealing.

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kimarj
(Kim) Philadelphi, PA
(Zone 6a)

January 17, 2011
12:36 PM

Post #8315594

Wow well done! Did you collect seed? I have never had one that smelled nice..I have some seeds from a trade wonder if Inoxia is in there mmmm : )
festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 17, 2011
10:17 PM

Post #8316463

Thank you Kim. I did collect seeds! The fragrance of the Inoxia was a lot stronger at night. Maybe because that is when the majority of the blooms opened.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
1:31 AM

Post #8316530

Another pic of Datura Unfogettable

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
1:42 AM

Post #8316532

By summers end the purple daturas were 5-8 feet tall

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
1:54 AM

Post #8316538

All of my plants continued producing blooms well into October

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
11:14 AM

Post #8317319

Half way through August we had a major storm come through that uprooted and laid over almost every single Datura plant in the yard. I carefully re-planted them and staked them with Bamboo. It seemed to spur their growth rather than stunt them.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
11:30 AM

Post #8317340

Most of the seeds I germinated in the basement took over a month to sprout. I still had seeds sprouting in starter cups at the end of May. Not wanting to waste seeds, I dumped the seeds that hadn't germinated into flower beds. Some of those seeds which didn't sprout till early June outgrew the plants that had started in February. As with most of my plants, I found the key to success was finding the right spot with the conditions most favorable to the specific plant. I don't plan on starting nearly as many Daturas indoors this year. I will sow them directly to the ground instead.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
11:36 AM

Post #8317348

The seed pods were nearly as impressive as the flowers. By the end of the season the Inoxia seed pods were as big as tennis balls.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
11:42 AM

Post #8317353

The purple seed pods were also fascinating to watch develop. I had a very nice surprise at the end of the season when I was cutting down the plants and removing the seed pods. I had one branch on a purple Datura that had spikes on the seed pods. Of course I have keep those seeds separate and can't wait to see the results of the cross pollination.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
11:47 AM

Post #8317368

A picture taken the day after replanting and staking my plants due to storm damage.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
12:10 PM

Post #8317396

I found it to be a very good thing each plant produces so many seeds. I have happily shared them with all my friends and family and still have plenty left for the approaching season.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
12:14 PM

Post #8317401

This year we will be adding triple yellows and triple whites to our Datura flower beds .

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
12:16 PM

Post #8317404

Of course I will be putting in some new flower beds to accommodate :)

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kimarj
(Kim) Philadelphi, PA
(Zone 6a)

January 18, 2011
2:43 PM

Post #8317641

Beautiful! I wish I had more room : } I only have room for a few. Thanks for showing your lovely blooms! love the seedpod too! I have to find my seeds and send some to you..for your new bed : )
One is named Mr Purple.
skellogg
Sundance, WY
(Zone 3b)

January 18, 2011
8:11 PM

Post #8318207

Gorgeous!! How many did you start last year? Any idea what your germination rate was? Any particular ones better than any others? And how did the ones do that your Dad started? Did any particular variety out perform the rest? Any under perform? Curious, so hope you don't mind all the questions, :-)
festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
8:43 PM

Post #8318241

Running out of room will not be a problem for me anytime soon. Just last month my neighbors put a ten acre hay field on the market that borders the side and back of our current lot and I was lucky enough to be able to purchase it. I can picture lots of new flower beds in my future. I would gladly send you some of my fragrant Inoxia seeds in return.

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skellogg
Sundance, WY
(Zone 3b)

January 18, 2011
9:25 PM

Post #8318294

Wow, can only imagine 10 acres of flower beds! How awesome! And just think of the size of the greenhouse you can fit in, lol! Your plants are gorgeous! If you have any extra purple seeds, I would love some sometime. Just curious, did you start your seeds in a soiless mix, or what kind of soil?
festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
10:44 PM

Post #8318334

Thank you skellog, I don't mind answering your questions one bit. I would guess my germination rate to be around 85% Probably better than that, because late in the season I gave up on some of the seeds that would have likely germinated.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
11:20 PM

Post #8318352

At one point I probably had fifty seedlings. I lost a dozen or so early on making the mistake of using expanding peat pots creating mold/fungus issues. I quickly found that sterile seed starting soil was a better method.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 18, 2011
11:29 PM

Post #8318354

I used a heated seed mat to germinate my seeds, my dad didn't, my seeds germinated twice as fast. I had florescent grow lights my dad had afternoon sun. Once sprouted my plants grew faster. Germination time varied a great deal in both situations. Somewhere between 30 - 120+ days. There didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as far as varieties went. Some seeds popped quickly while others took months.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 19, 2011
1:21 AM

Post #8318401

My dad had all but given up when his seeds finally started to germinate. We both used Jiffy organic seed starter soil the only difference was I microwave mine before using it. Mine averaged three weeks from sprouting till they had their second true set of leaves, then I transplanted to miracle grow soil. I used a combination of fish emulsion and sea magic to fertilize periodically.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 19, 2011
1:33 AM

Post #8318402

Most of mine were transplanted twice during their stay in my grow room. Judging from the roots when I transplanted them, most should have been transplanted a third time. Mine spent a week outdoors during the hardening off phase, my dad had his outside for several weeks. His temps were considerably higher so he thought it would take longer for the plants to adjust. We both had a noticeable shock phase for several weeks after transplanting to the yard.We both lost several during that time.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 19, 2011
2:03 AM

Post #8318407

My dad had one of the hottest summers on record in South Carolina. He had almost no measurable rain for two months. He had bug issues far worse then mine with some of his plants having all the leaves completely eaten off the plants. In spite of all of this his plants survived and by the end of the summer had rebounded and were blooming profusely. The frost didn't do his in until November.

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Garry_Maxey
Florala, AL

January 19, 2011
2:06 AM

Post #8318408

totally new at this so I wonder how bad an idea it was for me to start seeds 3 days ago..lol 10 of the 12 seeds i started have already sprouted...
festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 19, 2011
2:15 AM

Post #8318409

I had plants that out preformed others, but nothing variety specific. It seemed more specific to location. The one plant that my dad and I both agreed on not growing again was the Tatula. It produces lots of small blooms that are quickly replace with thorny spiked seed pods. It also grows out as quickly as it grows in height. For the space it consumes it just doesn't have the appeal that the other Datura varieties have.

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festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 19, 2011
2:19 AM

Post #8318410

Sounds like your off to a great start Garry

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skellogg
Sundance, WY
(Zone 3b)

January 19, 2011
6:24 AM

Post #8318606

Thanks Garry! That's fascinating to me, so really appreciate the info. Sounds like you are doing fabulous with them, and now I obviously am going to have to start some seeds. Probably won't search for any Tatula seeds tho :-) I think I have some black currant swirl seeds, and it sounds like even in my cold frozen north, I could start some now.
Garry_Maxey
Florala, AL

January 21, 2011
1:05 PM

Post #8322699

Another couple days goes by and now my datura's are about 3 inches tall and getting thier 1st set of leaves..Still have them in thier jiffy dome.. wonder when i need to move em out?
kobwebz
columbia, TN
(Zone 7a)

January 24, 2011
11:31 AM

Post #8327772

If they are 3'tall the roots are at least that long, I'd get them in individual pots asap.
festivus40
Lovington, IL

January 25, 2011
9:29 PM

Post #8330666

Your best bet is to put them in the largest pots you have available and still have room to keep inside. I transplanted into 3" cups for my first transplant and was repotting them again just a few short weeks later.
rednyr
Sumter, SC
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2011
6:56 AM

Post #8373120

Fest- love all your Dat's...I've had really good success using a heat mat too - much quicker to germinate...have a whole tray of Black Currant Swirl up now and just a few Golden Queens have germ'd...still waiting on lilac lefleur and two other variety's to germinate...
festivus40
Lovington, IL

February 16, 2011
11:27 AM

Post #8375427

I'm glad you like my pics rednyr. It sounds like your off to a great start this year with your Daturas as well. I have about a dozen seedlings transplanted now and more coming up every day. I sure enjoy the process of nurturing them and watching them grow. I too only have had a few Golden Queens sprout, but my Triple White Purity's and Unforgettable's have all sprouted.

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rednyr
Sumter, SC
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2011
5:46 PM

Post #8378012

Ha! Lilac LeFleur and 3 Golden Queens germ'd last night...hurry let's talk badly about them some more lol
kimarj
(Kim) Philadelphi, PA
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2011
5:55 PM

Post #8378032

Wow yall leaving me in the dust! I better get to swing some dats : ) right now I am going to see what Golden Queen looks like!
rednyr
Sumter, SC
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2011
8:22 PM

Post #8378267

Kim - it was 75 down here in SC today...so we're all itching to get to spring!
skellogg
Sundance, WY
(Zone 3b)

February 17, 2011
8:42 PM

Post #8378301

Well, spring is a way off for me here, but I'm still starting some Dat seeds anyway. I'll just move them to bigger pots if I have to come spring. Have any of you grown them out in pots? How big a pots did you use? Planning on growing at least 4 or 6 in pots until after the middle of Sept., as I need them for wedding decorations for a family member, so would love to know what to expect, especially since this is my first year for dats anyway. ;-) And I was hoping that I could get some pretty pots for them this weekend as there is an auction this weekend for a flower shop that went out of business and they are selling all their inventory and fixtures.
kimarj
(Kim) Philadelphi, PA
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
2:56 AM

Post #8378439

75~sigh~ :o}
I had one in a pretty 12inch pot the bloomed beautifully!!
skellogg
Sundance, WY
(Zone 3b)

February 18, 2011
5:20 AM

Post #8378568

Only 12 inches, Wow! That should work! Do you know, do they tend to bloom better in pots if the roots are crowded?
kimarj
(Kim) Philadelphi, PA
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
1:51 PM

Post #8379288

I don't know about that...but it was happy only shorter : ) And I just looked at the pot and it looked bigger so I measured and it is 12 across and 11 deep.

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