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For some of us, this weekend brings temps in the single numbers and below zero at night...Brrrr. Which is why I have been looking through all of the begonia mail order sites...planning for spring! I have seen recommendations for various begonias throughout this forum and thought it would be nice to put some of them under one topic so those of us who are "newer" or those who are new to begonias could scroll through one area as we are trying to decide what to order this spring. If something has been particularly easy to grow, please mention it, but even if it is a bit fussy, if it is a favorite, still name it. Any and all varieties welcome!
Thanks db, your pics are really good. I think I like canes best as well. I am not familiar with them enough to have favorites yet, although I really like Tom Ment. I hope others will add to this thread, whatever their favorites are.
I really like Josephine and Texas Tea Slipper. Do you order from one source more than an other?
I do like Taylor's, Logees in November for the $5.00 sale, and Kartuz for things I can get anywhere else (just put in my first order to them yesterday). Flowerjunkie here on DG has great begonias - she may be selling some this spring. I don't know if Texas Tea Sipper is available commercially - you are certainly welcome to cuttings from me.
If I can get to Oklahoma City in May for the ABS convention, that may be the best source of all.
Thanks for your input kill. I had Sinbad one year...and then I brought it inside for the winter. Of course now that I have been reading many of these threads, I may have chucked it too soon. I didn't bother with it last year because of that. It is just too hard to toss it at the end of the season when it looks its best (before coming inside). I am going to try it again this year.
db, you mentioned you just put in an order to Kartuz; when are you having it shipped? We are very close temperature wise; I am thinking about third week in May? I am always conservative with my early orders and wondering if I could order earlier since I do have a place for them inside before the temps warm up.
As I look around at different order sites I will look for Texas Tea Slipper. If I can't find it I may take you up on the cuttings. That would be really great.
I can't imagine what must be at the convention...it would be overload for me!
Shifty the canes that work for me are: Cracklin Rosie, Lana, and Looking Glass. Others that are not canes but my favorites would be: Torch, Orange Rubra, Escargot, Snowman, Red Fred, Deco Daddy, Tita, Caravan, 501, 508, Staudii and Dorothy Behren. I receive my begonias from EBay, Logees and my Atlanta Chapter Begonia Club.
looking_glass...thank you for posting. I really appreciate everyone's input. I love Orange Rubra as well. Unfortunately mine is not happy in my house this winter with forced air heat. I believe it will definitely survive and I am sure will be fine again come spring when it goes back outside. Thanks again!
I braved the frigid weather. Nokomis is the first one - light colored flowers. Elizabeth Lahn has dark flowers. Both lovely.
It is mighty cold out there.
So Shifty, do you ever visit the area? Or do you work near 900 Jefferson Rd. in Rochester?
db I think our posts crossed. Thanks for braving the cold. 900 Jefferson Rd...Palmers Market??? or is that the Genesee Regional Market address? That is actually closer to work than home; probably 15 mins from work and 20 from home. Have you been there? I haven't been out your way in several years.
Thanks for the compliments. Green does look very nice right now. I think I'm going snowblind.
The Jefferson Rd address is our regional office. There's a chance I could ask one of our employees to take a package of cuttings back to the office for you to pick up. Since you have forsaken the Albany area...
Think it is warmer in TN than in NY? Let's go visit killdawabbit.
Must be warmer there. I saw on the news this morning it was -44 in Lake Placid, made me feel a little warmer while driving to work and my car said it was only -5 here.
Wow, the cutting thing...better than Christmas if that ever worked out. Not forsaken Albany...just haven't had a reason for the road trip.
db, you're killing me!
Galaxy Quest is beautiful. Also, Little Miss Mummey. I've got to have Gypsy Maiden.
You certainly do not have too many. :-D
I like to use the canes as bedding plants. Keep the pics coming.
Gypsy Maiden is a magnet for PM and fungus. I drench her weekly with Cease and Milstop. But she's worth it. I went to Logee's on Sunday (20% off sale both retail and web) and bought more plants. Thank goodness, cause I didn't have enough.
Wow db, truly amazing and the answer is "never enough"! How far is Logees from you? You may have mentioned before but I don't remember. Your labels are great, you seem really organized despite many plants. Mine don't look as nice and I don't have as many plants! Sophia, Jim Wyrtzyn and Paper Snowflakes look great. I have Little Miss Mummy, got it from Taylor last fall but yours looks better. I love the dark leaves. Do I see an orchid in there too? Just took a class last weekend on orchid growing but that's another forum! Thanks for all of the pics, they are great and they have let me see varieties I haven't seen before...especially as I sit here tonight waiting for the "The Big Storm". What is with this winter!
Logee's is about 3 hours from Amsterdam, but only 30 minutes from my son's college. So we drop the plants in his room and take him out to dinner.
The labels are a work in progress. I got a bunch of Eon markers from a co-op on cubits and my winter project is to label all the plants. Brugmansias are done, begonias are half done, and I have the information for the other 500 or so plants. 3 labels on each - Eon, white plastic and yellow tie. OCD at its finest. Or, I'm sick of my son losing labels when he moves the plants in and out of the greenhouse.
Did someone mention orchids? (Piping Rock Orchids is, amazingly, about 20 minutes from my house) Glenn is my orchid pusher. I can't be alone with him anymore.
Ahhhhh!...Brugs...oh that's right, another forum. I will have to work on labeling this summer, I am so impressed with yours. How convenient that your son went to a college so close to Logee's, very kind son. Thanks for the tip on Logee's will check it now. Will also check Piping Rock tomorrow. Hoping to work from home tomorrow...big snow coming...we will see. I have heard mention of North Carolina Farm on this forum before. Are they still around? BTW, pictures from your greenhouse are making me crazy for spring. It's out there somewhere!
They are my favorite. Rexes and tuberous don't flourish, the rhizos don't flower at the right time, but the canes do just fine. I was waiting for you to show up wih some pictures of your beauties.
As far as I know North Carolina is still around. I thought the begonia group I joined might do mass orders, but they don't seem to be interested. Oh well... I think I get into enough trouble on my own. They are going to Peace Tree in April, so I'm putting in an order. I think I'll look at the site tonight while we are buried in white.
At Logee's, I picked up B. Goegoensis. Any advice? Anyone?
B. goegoensis would do best in a terrarium if you can. Had it a couple of times and if it ever dries out, you can almost kiss it goodbye.
Some others that look a lot like it are some of the U numbers (334, 557, and one other one) plus B. phuthoensis - these I've been able to hold on to. B. 'George Fewkes' and 'Mumtaz' are darker varieties you might like too.
Oh I hope I can get "My Special Angel" to bloom...I just ordered it from Logee's last night!
What great leaves on B.goegoensis, but I know my limits and I think it's best left to be grown by others on this forum!
I also ordered Elaine, Paper Snowflake and Tea Rose. I had Tea Rose for a few years and it was always in flower but then, the winter I had PM, it bought the farm. I wanted to keep my order small so I can order from others as well. I have been looking at Lauray of Salisbury's website. Wish they had photos for those of us who are still figuring out whats what, (which was why I started this thread). I am sure that once I do my wish list will get longer and longer! I definitely want more canes! Thanks for the tip on the sale.
Here is my starting list based solely on descriptions and the fact that I couldn't choose them all:( a couple you have already posted, so I will leave those out), Black Gold, Silver Mist, Kristy, Fabulous Tom, Irene Nuss and Victoria Woods. I don't expect you to post photos of them all, that's too much work, but if you have any of the first 3 that would be great or if you have grown any of them and have a comment about them that would be good too. Thank you!
Wow, no, summer seems like another time far far away. The forecast for next week confirms it. Haven't had a winter like this in awhile. I think I need one of those lights you sit under!
Definitely like Silver Mist, Irene Nuss and not sure why Josephine is off topic ( it is fav's) but really like that too. Good growing tips too, thanks.
I have been cruising through Taylor's web site tonight and have decided I must have an illness. I have other plant "afflictions", however, I feel begonia taking a strong lead!!
What a view from the "Remember Summer" photo. Can you see that from a window in your home? It is lovely.
Josephine wasn't one of the begonias on your Lauray list. Hence the off topic.
I wrote to Taylor's to ask if they will have any other begonias not on the website. It may take a couple of months, but they usually get back to me.
Yes, the summer pix is the view out the back yard toward the other side of the valley. The school playing fields are behind our house, so there's no building to obstruct the view.
Great pics, thanks so much for doing it. I really appreciate it.
What is your opinion of Victoria Woods?? and Sweet Shirley? I love Black Gold.
The others from Lauray I was considering are: Mary Ann Flunker, May Queen, and Ann Anderson, ( Annie Laurie was one but you beat me to it)
I should try the shea butter lotion, my hands/nails are awful this winter.
You have given me some great pics, some of them I can't find on any of the mail order sites I know, but it gives me something to keep looking for.
Do you have any "non" canes, that may not be your favorites but you really like?
Victoria Woods isn't the fastest grower, but that could be because my little ones were terribly neglected this year. I have to look at Sweet Shirley - I always confuse it with Honeysuckle.
I have Mary Ann Flunker, May Queen, Ann Anderson, and salicifolia. I'll get pictures next weekend (in the light).
Non-canes. I love rexes, they don't love me. I have them in aquariums downstairs for the winter. It's futile, they will sit like little lumps all summer.
Others: Marmaduke, Cowardly Lion, Sizemoreae, Anaconda, Iron Cross (wish I could get more than one leaf), soli mutata, cathedral, Metallica (love, love, love this), Foliosa, Fuchsioides, Richmondensis, Tweedle Dee , Little Brother Montgomery , Black Fancy.
Butch - where are you with pictures of your favorites? You have lots more than I do.
Nice Metallica. Going to have to look for this one this year.
Here is a pot of canes from two years ago. Lynda Dawn is the dark one, Medora the small leaf one, Dragon Wings is plain green, and the large leaf one is odorata. On the other side of the pot is Ikon Blush. I love to stick a bunch of different ones in the same large pot (18 inch in this case).
Here is an unknown - easy bloomer (bought it on one of the Keys coming home from Key West 9 years ago). The closest I could ID it by pictures is Mary Ann Flunker but bought one at the S.F. convention last year so until it blooms, it will be hard to tell.
This pot shows maculata (large dots), Mrs. Hashimoto (a cascading one with white blooms), Encanto Bronze (this one gets tall and has the pink blooms). The pot also had Morocco in it but it was on the other side.
One of my favorites - Sinbad makes a huge shrub in no time but is very mildew prone in fall. The others included are Torch (red blooms), Richmondensis (pink blooms), and Chocolate (white blooms). Chocolate is probably Withlacoochee but renamed by some grower for simplicity.
The mallets seem to get mildew year round here. I'm going to try to spray milstop all summer long to see if I can grow Sinbad, Looking Glass, Linda Dawn, Beningo, 62 Grand and crew. There has been no "making a huge shrub" in my yard. Not even graduating out of a 4" pot.
Love your begonias Butch.
Beautiful Begonias, all of them. Metallica is something to look for and the"possible" Mary Ann Flunker is stunning. Love Marmaduke...I have had it for a few years, but have never put it outside in the summer. After seeing yours I really should do it this year. The problem is the chipmunks around here love the rhizomes, they chew on them like an apple!
The combo pots are really nice, I might try one this year, I do it with every other plant but have always kept the begonias in their individual pots. Even in the spring I am thinking about bringing them inside come fall. These pics have given me some great choices to look for. Thanks again for posting them.
There is a Thompson cane named Miss Julie that I have admired on the main page of Brads website and I noticed Kartuz is offering it along with several other of his canes. Does anyone have Miss Julie? I am wondering if it is difficult to grow. The picture is so beautiful.
Mine are not large enough to flower - I have one from Kartuz and one from Logee's - Taylor's now has it too. They are doing OK in the greenhouse, don't seem prone to pm. According to Kartuz, this plant will be so full of flowers that I won't see the foliage. My advice is always to get plants from Taylor's first - they have larger, more robust plants in my experience. For the rare ones, I go to Kartuz.
Do you have a large one of Miss Julie Butch?
As for Miss Julie, I'll let you know later this summer. I ordered it from Kartuz a few weeks ago and it is quite small for now (3 inches tall? in a a 2 inch pot). Hopefully it will grow like a weed when I move it outdoors.
Logees, many years ago. It must not be common because a member of the Buxton Society wants cuttings for the group. I may just end up mailing you cuttings if I can't coordinate with one of our Rochester people.
db, It's such a beautiful plant and you've had it for so long; I hope I can say that about some some of the begonias I get this year. On that note, I found another fungicide that I am going to try. It is by GreenCure and the active ingredient is the same as Milstop, potassium bicarbonate. It comes in small and large quantities so I can start small first. It isn't as inexpensive as copper products but if it works then that's what counts. I was about to order it on line but then found it locally yesterday, so even better. The woman who owns the garden center said she has been recommending it to customers the last couple of years with great success for the tomato blight that has been prevalent around here. Hopefully it will work on PM on the canes. Now I just need to narrow down my list and order some!
Have you, or anyone who is reading this, heard of Peacetree Farms? I found their website yesterday and they are only wholesale now. They mention that they do not sell to home gardeners at this time but they are working on an on line retail ordering system for 2011. So it sounds like at some point this year they will be taking orders from home growers. I signed up to be notified when it is available and I guess I will see what happens. They have a lot of begonias, not a lot of canes, seems like mainly rhizomatous, but they have some I am interested in; Texas Red Star, and Red Fred.
Again, your cutting offer is much appreciated.
LLoyd is a stickler about no retail sales. I asked if he could bring begonias to Saratoga when he was an exhibitor for an organic event and was told that they absolutely would not sell to individuals. Imagine my excitement when the begonia society announced members were making a trip to Peacetree in March to stock up for a sale they hold in May. They called Lloyd to place the order and he told them he was out of inventory until the spring. They are scrambling trying to find a source. But at least he will sell to the society, and then I buy from it.
Logees is closer to me and much more friendly. If I was going to share something, I would go to Byron. Unfortunately, the begonia society had a falling out with Logees about 10 years ago and don't want to deal for plants. Oh well, I usually find what I want, or I"ll have to make arrangements to go to Georgia and raid someone's yard.
Interesting about Peacetree. I guess I will wait and see if I ever get the email stating they are not taking retail on line orders.
Thanks for the info on Red Fred. I will keep my eye out for TRS. Didn't see it on Taylor or Kartuz, but lots of time for it to show up.
I just received 2 boxes of begonias from this seller. Almost all were wonderful. Rajah was a problem - 2 leaves on delivery, both died. They advised to put it in a warm terrarium, so that's where it is. But all the other plants exceeded expectations. It is hard to leave feedback though.
Butch - what do you think about Rajah?
They mailed on Saturday morning and it arrived on my doorstep Monday afternoon, with heat packs. They only need it to be above freezing for those 3 days. I was just browsing the selection from ebay since we have a warm spell coming up. Ordinarily I won't chance it, but they said it was no problem.
Do you think it's true that Rajah will come back from the crown if I keep it warm and in a terrarium? Or should I request a replacement? Also, as I was cruising ebay, I saw a seller from China with some interesting begonias. I've never ordered from abroad, but I see others from the US got his plants. Any experience?
As for rajah, it all depends on the rhizome - is it big enough to survive without leaves (ordinarily that would be true but for a very tiny one it may not be). Hopefully you didn't order it from JB Farms (or something like that). Worst deal ever on eBay.
I got all those Chinese begonias when it was offered last fall but a guy on the Yahoo group ended up doing the transaction saving everyone a bundle on shipping and sanitary papers by having only one shipping address. They are all tubers so be forewarned. They all looked firm but rather small - about the size of a kernel of corn to a kidney bean. Out of the 7 I got only one has come up so far. The others may be shriveled or molded - I have not checked in a long time. They are in a makeshift terrarium and under lights but tubers have a mind of their own.
right now i like red fred,but what got me intrested in begonia was this old fashioned beefsteak begonia
that i got in starts,had it for years then one day,it up and died,hoping to get crestbunchi and bunchii
and madam quess and few others,last laugh is doing well for me,
Shame about your beefsteak. 'Red Fred' is nice but you should try 'Freddie' too ('Red Fred' came from a sport of 'Freddie'). Instead of 'Madame Queen' try 'Muddy Waters' - it is a much easier grower and is very similar to 'Madame Queen'.
Unbelievable, but true, I actually received my ebay order of Texas Red Star and U561 today. It had been mild but as if often does in March in Rochester, it turned cold. The seller said she would watch and ship when ok, which I did not think was now. I came home from work to bring them in the house rather than let them sit outside 4 more hours. TRS is a good sized plant and has some cold damage but very little. U561 is hating life at the moment. A lot of cold damage and fallen leaves.( I put the leaves in water to see what happens) The heat pack was still warm but U561 had pretty wet soil and it was fairly cold and has more succulent leaves. Both are in a small empty terrarium (closed top) in their pots with some cups of warm water just to add some extra warmth and humidity for the immediate time. Both are rhizomes I believe, can't find a lot about either.
hcmcdole...I know you have had TRS..have you found it has any special requirements?
Has anyone grown U561?
Back to work ...thanks for any info.
TRS is fairly easy - just keep it watered when it dries out a tad and give it some light whether filtered sunlight or artificial light.
U561 is a bit of a prima donna in my opinion. I prop'ed one from a leaf and it did very well in perlite and under a plastic lid but now it dropped all its leaves. The mother plant is still in its original container (same place you got yours - Harmony) and grows some and then recedes and grows some and recedes. I think it really wants to have more light or humidity or both.
This was a picture of it last March. It is much smaller right now (lost most of its leaves) but I hope that when I move it outside in a few weeks it will take off.
Great, a prima donna, I should have known. I should have asked the questions first. I will stick the best of the leaves that came off in perlite and see if anything happens. I need to watch it the next day or so: there is quite a bit of leaf damage from the cold. I love the leaves on both of these; I hope I can keep U561 going. Thanks for the information on both.