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Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 22, 2011
1:31 PM

Post #8324457

For some of us, this weekend brings temps in the single numbers and below zero at night...Brrrr. Which is why I have been looking through all of the begonia mail order sites...planning for spring! I have seen recommendations for various begonias throughout this forum and thought it would be nice to put some of them under one topic so those of us who are "newer" or those who are new to begonias could scroll through one area as we are trying to decide what to order this spring. If something has been particularly easy to grow, please mention it, but even if it is a bit fussy, if it is a favorite, still name it. Any and all varieties welcome!
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 22, 2011
6:05 PM

Post #8324906

Canes are my favorite begonias.
Josephine

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 22, 2011
6:06 PM

Post #8324911

Texas Tea Sipper

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 22, 2011
6:07 PM

Post #8324916

Amelia (or so I am told)

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 22, 2011
6:11 PM

Post #8324926

Sweet Shirley

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 22, 2011
6:17 PM

Post #8324935

The tall ones are Alma Swisher and Winning Way.
It's later in the season, so thinks are getting leggy.

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Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 23, 2011
5:33 AM

Post #8325437

Thanks db, your pics are really good. I think I like canes best as well. I am not familiar with them enough to have favorites yet, although I really like Tom Ment. I hope others will add to this thread, whatever their favorites are.
I really like Josephine and Texas Tea Slipper. Do you order from one source more than an other?
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2011
10:01 AM

Post #8325887

My two most vigorous growers are canes: Sophie Cecile and Eldora.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2011
10:02 AM

Post #8325889

Eldora has grown at least 7 feet tall for me.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2011
10:12 AM

Post #8325901

Another fave: Sinbad.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2011
10:15 AM

Post #8325908

Orococo: I have found it to be a trailer and I plan to put it in a hanging basket this spring.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2011
11:25 AM

Post #8326028

I do like Taylor's, Logees in November for the $5.00 sale, and Kartuz for things I can get anywhere else (just put in my first order to them yesterday). Flowerjunkie here on DG has great begonias - she may be selling some this spring. I don't know if Texas Tea Sipper is available commercially - you are certainly welcome to cuttings from me.
If I can get to Oklahoma City in May for the ABS convention, that may be the best source of all.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 23, 2011
12:34 PM

Post #8326104

Thanks for your input kill. I had Sinbad one year...and then I brought it inside for the winter. Of course now that I have been reading many of these threads, I may have chucked it too soon. I didn't bother with it last year because of that. It is just too hard to toss it at the end of the season when it looks its best (before coming inside). I am going to try it again this year.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 23, 2011
1:01 PM

Post #8326137

db, you mentioned you just put in an order to Kartuz; when are you having it shipped? We are very close temperature wise; I am thinking about third week in May? I am always conservative with my early orders and wondering if I could order earlier since I do have a place for them inside before the temps warm up.
As I look around at different order sites I will look for Texas Tea Slipper. If I can't find it I may take you up on the cuttings. That would be really great.
I can't imagine what must be at the convention...it would be overload for me!
looking_glass1
College Park, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 23, 2011
3:02 PM

Post #8326308

Shifty the canes that work for me are: Cracklin Rosie, Lana, and Looking Glass. Others that are not canes but my favorites would be: Torch, Orange Rubra, Escargot, Snowman, Red Fred, Deco Daddy, Tita, Caravan, 501, 508, Staudii and Dorothy Behren. I receive my begonias from EBay, Logees and my Atlanta Chapter Begonia Club.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 23, 2011
3:48 PM

Post #8326362

looking_glass...thank you for posting. I really appreciate everyone's input. I love Orange Rubra as well. Unfortunately mine is not happy in my house this winter with forced air heat. I believe it will definitely survive and I am sure will be fine again come spring when it goes back outside. Thanks again!
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2011
7:07 PM

Post #8326719

I usually get Kartuz sometime in May - whenever they feel it is safe to ship.
Nokomis (or Elizabeth Lahn) - ignore the peeling paint on the urn

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2011
1:50 AM

Post #8327012

db, that is beautiful! Nokomis goes on my 'to buy' list. Thanks for the beautiful pic.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2011
4:48 PM

Post #8328325

Gorgeous db! I've never heard of many of these..thanks for the pics.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2011
5:13 PM

Post #8328375

OK, one is Elizabeth Lahn and one is Nokomis. It's too cold to go outside to the greenhouse and look at the leaves. Both from Lauray of Salisbury.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2011
5:42 PM

Post #8328441

I braved the frigid weather. Nokomis is the first one - light colored flowers. Elizabeth Lahn has dark flowers. Both lovely.
It is mighty cold out there.
So Shifty, do you ever visit the area? Or do you work near 900 Jefferson Rd. in Rochester?
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2011
5:59 PM

Post #8328475

Everything looks so lush and green in your courtyard..I really miss that color! Those are definitely two to look for in Lauray of Salisbury. The darker flowered one is really striking.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2011
6:00 PM

Post #8328480

db, that is a beautiful landscape!
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2011
6:08 PM

Post #8328512

db I think our posts crossed. Thanks for braving the cold. 900 Jefferson Rd...Palmers Market??? or is that the Genesee Regional Market address? That is actually closer to work than home; probably 15 mins from work and 20 from home. Have you been there? I haven't been out your way in several years.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2011
6:33 PM

Post #8328561

Thanks for the compliments. Green does look very nice right now. I think I'm going snowblind.
The Jefferson Rd address is our regional office. There's a chance I could ask one of our employees to take a package of cuttings back to the office for you to pick up. Since you have forsaken the Albany area...
Think it is warmer in TN than in NY? Let's go visit killdawabbit.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2011
6:47 PM

Post #8328590

Must be warmer there. I saw on the news this morning it was -44 in Lake Placid, made me feel a little warmer while driving to work and my car said it was only -5 here.
Wow, the cutting thing...better than Christmas if that ever worked out. Not forsaken Albany...just haven't had a reason for the road trip.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2011
7:12 PM

Post #8328631

I'll see when we have people traveling. Maybe towards spring. If I give them cuttings now, they'd freeze in the car while they ate lunch.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

January 25, 2011
10:51 AM

Post #8329630

I think the lowest we've had all winter is around 10 degrees. But it's been such a persistent cold. Unusual for this area.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

January 26, 2011
3:20 PM

Post #8332058

db, that sounds fantastic. Wow, thanks so much. Even more reason to hope for the warmer weather (not that the list isn't already really long!)
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:29 PM

Post #8341673

I took some pictures in the greenhouse over the weekend. The canes look better in the summer, but here are more favorites. Galaxy Quest:

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:31 PM

Post #8341677

Little Miss Mummey, in the back, dark leaves:

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8341681

Paper Snowflakes:

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:33 PM

Post #8341683

Sophia (love this one):

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:34 PM

Post #8341686

Gypsy Maiden, not the easiest to grow, but beautiful leaves:

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:36 PM

Post #8341694

And Jim Wyrtzyn:

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:37 PM

Post #8341695

Too many? or not enough?

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:41 PM

Post #8341705

And another:

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2011
7:45 PM

Post #8341715

And to show the depth of my obsession (just how many plants do I own?):

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

February 1, 2011
9:13 AM

Post #8342702

db, you're killing me!
Galaxy Quest is beautiful. Also, Little Miss Mummey. I've got to have Gypsy Maiden.
You certainly do not have too many. :-D
I like to use the canes as bedding plants. Keep the pics coming.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2011
11:04 AM

Post #8343069

Gypsy Maiden is a magnet for PM and fungus. I drench her weekly with Cease and Milstop. But she's worth it. I went to Logee's on Sunday (20% off sale both retail and web) and bought more plants. Thank goodness, cause I didn't have enough.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 1, 2011
4:18 PM

Post #8343761

Wow db, truly amazing and the answer is "never enough"! How far is Logees from you? You may have mentioned before but I don't remember. Your labels are great, you seem really organized despite many plants. Mine don't look as nice and I don't have as many plants! Sophia, Jim Wyrtzyn and Paper Snowflakes look great. I have Little Miss Mummy, got it from Taylor last fall but yours looks better. I love the dark leaves. Do I see an orchid in there too? Just took a class last weekend on orchid growing but that's another forum! Thanks for all of the pics, they are great and they have let me see varieties I haven't seen before...especially as I sit here tonight waiting for the "The Big Storm". What is with this winter!
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2011
5:57 PM

Post #8343980

Logee's is about 3 hours from Amsterdam, but only 30 minutes from my son's college. So we drop the plants in his room and take him out to dinner.
The labels are a work in progress. I got a bunch of Eon markers from a co-op on cubits and my winter project is to label all the plants. Brugmansias are done, begonias are half done, and I have the information for the other 500 or so plants. 3 labels on each - Eon, white plastic and yellow tie. OCD at its finest. Or, I'm sick of my son losing labels when he moves the plants in and out of the greenhouse.
Did someone mention orchids? (Piping Rock Orchids is, amazingly, about 20 minutes from my house) Glenn is my orchid pusher. I can't be alone with him anymore.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2011
6:01 PM

Post #8343989

Another favorite is My Special Angel. There was a co-op on DG a few years back for starts from North Carolina Farms. I have a bunch, so they get stuck on a bench with Torch Red, Torch Pink and Medora.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2011
6:07 PM

Post #8343993

If you act quickly, you can get 20% off Logee's website and have them hold the order for spring shipping. The sale ends tonight. The promo code is EMAIL20.
http://www.logees.com/
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 1, 2011
6:10 PM

Post #8344001

My Special Angel is a cane everyone should own. You've got lots of canes there DB - must be your favorite group.

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Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 1, 2011
6:20 PM

Post #8344014

Ahhhhh!...Brugs...oh that's right, another forum. I will have to work on labeling this summer, I am so impressed with yours. How convenient that your son went to a college so close to Logee's, very kind son. Thanks for the tip on Logee's will check it now. Will also check Piping Rock tomorrow. Hoping to work from home tomorrow...big snow coming...we will see. I have heard mention of North Carolina Farm on this forum before. Are they still around? BTW, pictures from your greenhouse are making me crazy for spring. It's out there somewhere!
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2011
6:30 PM

Post #8344028

Butch-
They are my favorite. Rexes and tuberous don't flourish, the rhizos don't flower at the right time, but the canes do just fine. I was waiting for you to show up wih some pictures of your beauties.
Shifty-
As far as I know North Carolina is still around. I thought the begonia group I joined might do mass orders, but they don't seem to be interested. Oh well... I think I get into enough trouble on my own. They are going to Peace Tree in April, so I'm putting in an order. I think I'll look at the site tonight while we are buried in white.

At Logee's, I picked up B. Goegoensis. Any advice? Anyone?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 1, 2011
6:59 PM

Post #8344080

B. goegoensis would do best in a terrarium if you can. Had it a couple of times and if it ever dries out, you can almost kiss it goodbye.

Some others that look a lot like it are some of the U numbers (334, 557, and one other one) plus B. phuthoensis - these I've been able to hold on to. B. 'George Fewkes' and 'Mumtaz' are darker varieties you might like too.

Here were two of my old B. goegoensis.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

February 1, 2011
8:42 PM

Post #8344216

I love My Special Angel also. I've yet to see mine bloom and it grows pretty slowly. Glad to see your pic, Butch.
db, I envy your beautiful orcid collection.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 2, 2011
3:40 PM

Post #8345636

Oh I hope I can get "My Special Angel" to bloom...I just ordered it from Logee's last night!
What great leaves on B.goegoensis, but I know my limits and I think it's best left to be grown by others on this forum!
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2011
4:29 PM

Post #8345701

What else did you order?
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 3, 2011
4:50 PM

Post #8352034

I also ordered Elaine, Paper Snowflake and Tea Rose. I had Tea Rose for a few years and it was always in flower but then, the winter I had PM, it bought the farm. I wanted to keep my order small so I can order from others as well. I have been looking at Lauray of Salisbury's website. Wish they had photos for those of us who are still figuring out whats what, (which was why I started this thread). I am sure that once I do my wish list will get longer and longer! I definitely want more canes! Thanks for the tip on the sale.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2011
7:11 PM

Post #8352326

I have about 80% of Judy's canes. Let me know what you would like a picture of, and I'll see if I have it.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 4, 2011
2:19 PM

Post #8353795

Here is my starting list based solely on descriptions and the fact that I couldn't choose them all:( a couple you have already posted, so I will leave those out), Black Gold, Silver Mist, Kristy, Fabulous Tom, Irene Nuss and Victoria Woods. I don't expect you to post photos of them all, that's too much work, but if you have any of the first 3 that would be great or if you have grown any of them and have a comment about them that would be good too. Thank you!
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2011
4:33 PM

Post #8354055

I have them all except Kristy. Black Gold is a baby. I will try to take pictures tomorrow. Butch has some of these too.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2011
5:33 PM

Post #8354178

Silver Mist. I get more flowers, but less colorful leaves, in a more sunny spot.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2011
5:35 PM

Post #8354182

Josephine this year (I know, off topic, but I'm cruising through my pics)

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2011
5:40 PM

Post #8354191

Silver Mist in the shade, with an ungainly stalk

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2011
5:41 PM

Post #8354192

Irene Nuss. More sun, more flowers.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 4, 2011
5:43 PM

Post #8354199

Remember summer

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Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 4, 2011
6:55 PM

Post #8354327

Wow, no, summer seems like another time far far away. The forecast for next week confirms it. Haven't had a winter like this in awhile. I think I need one of those lights you sit under!
Definitely like Silver Mist, Irene Nuss and not sure why Josephine is off topic ( it is fav's) but really like that too. Good growing tips too, thanks.
I have been cruising through Taylor's web site tonight and have decided I must have an illness. I have other plant "afflictions", however, I feel begonia taking a strong lead!!
What a view from the "Remember Summer" photo. Can you see that from a window in your home? It is lovely.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 5, 2011
4:43 AM

Post #8354818

Josephine wasn't one of the begonias on your Lauray list. Hence the off topic.
I wrote to Taylor's to ask if they will have any other begonias not on the website. It may take a couple of months, but they usually get back to me.
Yes, the summer pix is the view out the back yard toward the other side of the valley. The school playing fields are behind our house, so there's no building to obstruct the view.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:45 PM

Post #8357760

Fabulous Tom

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Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:46 PM

Post #8357763

Another view of Fabulous Tom

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:47 PM

Post #8357766

Victoria Woods

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:48 PM

Post #8357767

Black Gold (Kartuz)

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:49 PM

Post #8357771

Another view of Black Gold

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:49 PM

Post #8357773

Irene Nuss in winter

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:50 PM

Post #8357775

Another Lauray - Adam Kenaway, notice the little red dot in the center

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:51 PM

Post #8357779

I should just do Judy's catalog. Ken Lau Ren

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:52 PM

Post #8357783

Osata

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Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:53 PM

Post #8357787

Annie Laurie, notice the salmon flowers

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:54 PM

Post #8357790

Paper Snowflakes from Taylor

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
3:57 PM

Post #8357799

Marguerite de Cola - Logee's or Kathy_ann on DG (who, by the way, has shea butter hand lotion that is incredible - my hands haven't cracked all winter, even working in the greenhouse.)

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
4:01 PM

Post #8357803

What else are you considering?
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 6, 2011
5:48 PM

Post #8357954

Great pics, thanks so much for doing it. I really appreciate it.
What is your opinion of Victoria Woods?? and Sweet Shirley? I love Black Gold.
The others from Lauray I was considering are: Mary Ann Flunker, May Queen, and Ann Anderson, ( Annie Laurie was one but you beat me to it)
I should try the shea butter lotion, my hands/nails are awful this winter.
You have given me some great pics, some of them I can't find on any of the mail order sites I know, but it gives me something to keep looking for.
Do you have any "non" canes, that may not be your favorites but you really like?
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 6, 2011
6:01 PM

Post #8357975

I forgot two...aconitifolia and salicifolia. The white flowers sounded interesting.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
7:35 PM

Post #8358118

Victoria Woods isn't the fastest grower, but that could be because my little ones were terribly neglected this year. I have to look at Sweet Shirley - I always confuse it with Honeysuckle.

I have Mary Ann Flunker, May Queen, Ann Anderson, and salicifolia. I'll get pictures next weekend (in the light).

Non-canes. I love rexes, they don't love me. I have them in aquariums downstairs for the winter. It's futile, they will sit like little lumps all summer.
Others: Marmaduke, Cowardly Lion, Sizemoreae, Anaconda, Iron Cross (wish I could get more than one leaf), soli mutata, cathedral, Metallica (love, love, love this), Foliosa, Fuchsioides, Richmondensis, Tweedle Dee , Little Brother Montgomery , Black Fancy.

Butch - where are you with pictures of your favorites? You have lots more than I do.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
7:39 PM

Post #8358126

Cowardly Lion

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
7:40 PM

Post #8358131

Soli mutata

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
7:42 PM

Post #8358135

Anaconda

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
7:43 PM

Post #8358139

Marmaduke

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
7:47 PM

Post #8358145

Metallica

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 7, 2011
4:55 AM

Post #8358490

Nice Metallica. Going to have to look for this one this year.

Here is a pot of canes from two years ago. Lynda Dawn is the dark one, Medora the small leaf one, Dragon Wings is plain green, and the large leaf one is odorata. On the other side of the pot is Ikon Blush. I love to stick a bunch of different ones in the same large pot (18 inch in this case).

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 7, 2011
4:59 AM

Post #8358498

Here is an unknown - easy bloomer (bought it on one of the Keys coming home from Key West 9 years ago). The closest I could ID it by pictures is Mary Ann Flunker but bought one at the S.F. convention last year so until it blooms, it will be hard to tell.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 7, 2011
5:04 AM

Post #8358505

This pot shows maculata (large dots), Mrs. Hashimoto (a cascading one with white blooms), Encanto Bronze (this one gets tall and has the pink blooms). The pot also had Morocco in it but it was on the other side.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 7, 2011
5:10 AM

Post #8358518

One of my favorites - Sinbad makes a huge shrub in no time but is very mildew prone in fall. The others included are Torch (red blooms), Richmondensis (pink blooms), and Chocolate (white blooms). Chocolate is probably Withlacoochee but renamed by some grower for simplicity.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 7, 2011
5:43 AM

Post #8358581

The mallets seem to get mildew year round here. I'm going to try to spray milstop all summer long to see if I can grow Sinbad, Looking Glass, Linda Dawn, Beningo, 62 Grand and crew. There has been no "making a huge shrub" in my yard. Not even graduating out of a 4" pot.
Love your begonias Butch.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 7, 2011
4:29 PM

Post #8359855

Beautiful Begonias, all of them. Metallica is something to look for and the"possible" Mary Ann Flunker is stunning. Love Marmaduke...I have had it for a few years, but have never put it outside in the summer. After seeing yours I really should do it this year. The problem is the chipmunks around here love the rhizomes, they chew on them like an apple!
The combo pots are really nice, I might try one this year, I do it with every other plant but have always kept the begonias in their individual pots. Even in the spring I am thinking about bringing them inside come fall. These pics have given me some great choices to look for. Thanks again for posting them.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 7, 2011
6:25 PM

Post #8360028

I do some combo pots and just leave the begonias in their own pots. The roots grow out the bottom.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 8, 2011
4:23 PM

Post #8361478

There is a Thompson cane named Miss Julie that I have admired on the main page of Brads website and I noticed Kartuz is offering it along with several other of his canes. Does anyone have Miss Julie? I am wondering if it is difficult to grow. The picture is so beautiful.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 8, 2011
6:08 PM

Post #8361653

Mine are not large enough to flower - I have one from Kartuz and one from Logee's - Taylor's now has it too. They are doing OK in the greenhouse, don't seem prone to pm. According to Kartuz, this plant will be so full of flowers that I won't see the foliage. My advice is always to get plants from Taylor's first - they have larger, more robust plants in my experience. For the rare ones, I go to Kartuz.
Do you have a large one of Miss Julie Butch?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 8, 2011
6:09 PM

Post #8361656

As for Miss Julie, I'll let you know later this summer. I ordered it from Kartuz a few weeks ago and it is quite small for now (3 inches tall? in a a 2 inch pot). Hopefully it will grow like a weed when I move it outdoors.

For now here is Irene Nuss.

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Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 8, 2011
6:41 PM

Post #8361708

Wow, I never even noticed it on Taylor's site. Kartuz has the most perfect pic of it in FULL flower, it just caught my eye. I am glad I asked about it. So many choices, its hard to narrow them down.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 12, 2011
5:22 PM

Post #8368854

db...where did you get metallica? I haven't come across it anywhere I am looking.
dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 12, 2011
5:53 PM

Post #8368894

Logees, many years ago. It must not be common because a member of the Buxton Society wants cuttings for the group. I may just end up mailing you cuttings if I can't coordinate with one of our Rochester people.
Sweet Shirley

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Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 13, 2011
7:01 AM

Post #8369546

db, It's such a beautiful plant and you've had it for so long; I hope I can say that about some some of the begonias I get this year. On that note, I found another fungicide that I am going to try. It is by GreenCure and the active ingredient is the same as Milstop, potassium bicarbonate. It comes in small and large quantities so I can start small first. It isn't as inexpensive as copper products but if it works then that's what counts. I was about to order it on line but then found it locally yesterday, so even better. The woman who owns the garden center said she has been recommending it to customers the last couple of years with great success for the tomato blight that has been prevalent around here. Hopefully it will work on PM on the canes. Now I just need to narrow down my list and order some!
Have you, or anyone who is reading this, heard of Peacetree Farms? I found their website yesterday and they are only wholesale now. They mention that they do not sell to home gardeners at this time but they are working on an on line retail ordering system for 2011. So it sounds like at some point this year they will be taking orders from home growers. I signed up to be notified when it is available and I guess I will see what happens. They have a lot of begonias, not a lot of canes, seems like mainly rhizomatous, but they have some I am interested in; Texas Red Star, and Red Fred.
Again, your cutting offer is much appreciated.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 13, 2011
8:27 AM

Post #8369683

LLoyd (Peacetree) has been talking about going retail for over a year now. I will believe it when I see it. He will happily take anything you can send him to put it in production though.

Texas Red Star and Red Fred are available on eBay periodically. Taylor GH may have both for sale as well and perhaps Kartuz.

Red Fred can be quite variable depending on light, temps, etc. This begonia is a variant of Freddie and was spotted by Mike Flaherty who introduced it to the trade 3 to 4 years ago.

Here is my Red Fred (obtained at the West Palm Beach convention and grown by Harmony Foliage).

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 13, 2011
8:33 AM

Post #8369691

Texas Red Star is a nice small begonia. Consider Deco Daddy too if you like TRS.


I think the reason I read that Peacetree doesn't do canes as much is that they get too tall for shipping.

One of my TRS in summer. Winter time is usually less leaves.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 13, 2011
8:35 AM

Post #8369693

Red Fred at the '07 L.A. convention where it was first shown by Mike F.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 13, 2011
9:21 AM

Post #8369746

LLoyd is a stickler about no retail sales. I asked if he could bring begonias to Saratoga when he was an exhibitor for an organic event and was told that they absolutely would not sell to individuals. Imagine my excitement when the begonia society announced members were making a trip to Peacetree in March to stock up for a sale they hold in May. They called Lloyd to place the order and he told them he was out of inventory until the spring. They are scrambling trying to find a source. But at least he will sell to the society, and then I buy from it.
Logees is closer to me and much more friendly. If I was going to share something, I would go to Byron. Unfortunately, the begonia society had a falling out with Logees about 10 years ago and don't want to deal for plants. Oh well, I usually find what I want, or I"ll have to make arrangements to go to Georgia and raid someone's yard.
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 13, 2011
11:25 AM

Post #8369937

Interesting about Peacetree. I guess I will wait and see if I ever get the email stating they are not taking retail on line orders.
Thanks for the info on Red Fred. I will keep my eye out for TRS. Didn't see it on Taylor or Kartuz, but lots of time for it to show up.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 13, 2011
4:51 PM

Post #8370434

TRS is for sale right now on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/begonia-Texas-Red-Star-4-pot-/330523822827?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf4c14aeb

dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 13, 2011
4:56 PM

Post #8370441

I just received 2 boxes of begonias from this seller. Almost all were wonderful. Rajah was a problem - 2 leaves on delivery, both died. They advised to put it in a warm terrarium, so that's where it is. But all the other plants exceeded expectations. It is hard to leave feedback though.
Butch - what do you think about Rajah?
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

February 13, 2011
5:16 PM

Post #8370465

Wow, I would not have thought we could receive a shipment now...?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 13, 2011
5:23 PM

Post #8370480

My rajah has been in a terrarium for the last 3 years in the original pot from Logee's. One day I hope to move it to its own terrarium where it can grow to its heart's content.

You can see it has some competition in this very large aquarium with other begonias.

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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 13, 2011
6:12 PM

Post #8370558

They mailed on Saturday morning and it arrived on my doorstep Monday afternoon, with heat packs. They only need it to be above freezing for those 3 days. I was just browsing the selection from ebay since we have a warm spell coming up. Ordinarily I won't chance it, but they said it was no problem.
Butch-
Do you think it's true that Rajah will come back from the crown if I keep it warm and in a terrarium? Or should I request a replacement? Also, as I was cruising ebay, I saw a seller from China with some interesting begonias. I've never ordered from abroad, but I see others from the US got his plants. Any experience?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

February 14, 2011
3:40 AM

Post #8370894

As for rajah, it all depends on the rhizome - is it big enough to survive without leaves (ordinarily that would be true but for a very tiny one it may not be). Hopefully you didn't order it from JB Farms (or something like that). Worst deal ever on eBay.

I got all those Chinese begonias when it was offered last fall but a guy on the Yahoo group ended up doing the transaction saving everyone a bundle on shipping and sanitary papers by having only one shipping address. They are all tubers so be forewarned. They all looked firm but rather small - about the size of a kernel of corn to a kidney bean. Out of the 7 I got only one has come up so far. The others may be shriveled or molded - I have not checked in a long time. They are in a makeshift terrarium and under lights but tubers have a mind of their own.



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dbsmith2
Amsterdam, NY
(Zone 5a)

February 14, 2011
4:25 AM

Post #8370957

Thanks Butch.
bigoldbuck701
Williston, ND

March 1, 2011
4:57 AM

Post #8399402

right now i like red fred,but what got me intrested in begonia was this old fashioned beefsteak begonia
that i got in starts,had it for years then one day,it up and died,hoping to get crestbunchi and bunchii
and madam quess and few others,last laugh is doing well for me,

JIM
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 1, 2011
5:44 AM

Post #8399526

Hey Jim,

Shame about your beefsteak. 'Red Fred' is nice but you should try 'Freddie' too ('Red Fred' came from a sport of 'Freddie'). Instead of 'Madame Queen' try 'Muddy Waters' - it is a much easier grower and is very similar to 'Madame Queen'.

Here is one of my 'Muddy Waters'.

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bigoldbuck701
Williston, ND

March 1, 2011
9:55 AM

Post #8400149

soon as i can find them ill give them a shot,Thanks

JIM
Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

March 2, 2011
10:56 AM

Post #8402398

Unbelievable, but true, I actually received my ebay order of Texas Red Star and U561 today. It had been mild but as if often does in March in Rochester, it turned cold. The seller said she would watch and ship when ok, which I did not think was now. I came home from work to bring them in the house rather than let them sit outside 4 more hours. TRS is a good sized plant and has some cold damage but very little. U561 is hating life at the moment. A lot of cold damage and fallen leaves.( I put the leaves in water to see what happens) The heat pack was still warm but U561 had pretty wet soil and it was fairly cold and has more succulent leaves. Both are in a small empty terrarium (closed top) in their pots with some cups of warm water just to add some extra warmth and humidity for the immediate time. Both are rhizomes I believe, can't find a lot about either.

hcmcdole...I know you have had TRS..have you found it has any special requirements?

Has anyone grown U561?
Back to work ...thanks for any info.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 2, 2011
12:07 PM

Post #8402523

TRS is fairly easy - just keep it watered when it dries out a tad and give it some light whether filtered sunlight or artificial light.

U561 is a bit of a prima donna in my opinion. I prop'ed one from a leaf and it did very well in perlite and under a plastic lid but now it dropped all its leaves. The mother plant is still in its original container (same place you got yours - Harmony) and grows some and then recedes and grows some and recedes. I think it really wants to have more light or humidity or both.

This was a picture of it last March. It is much smaller right now (lost most of its leaves) but I hope that when I move it outside in a few weeks it will take off.

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Shifty
Rochester, NY
(Zone 5b)

March 2, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8403191

Great, a prima donna, I should have known. I should have asked the questions first. I will stick the best of the leaves that came off in perlite and see if anything happens. I need to watch it the next day or so: there is quite a bit of leaf damage from the cold. I love the leaves on both of these; I hope I can keep U561 going. Thanks for the information on both.

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