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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 1, 2011
3:22 PM

Post #8343647

New thread for February!! Dealing with a major blizzard that has dumped feet of snow and closed some major highways in the Midwest.

I-70 is closed both directions from Kansas City to St.Louis. Please find alternate routes if you have to go out in this storm.

A sunny pic on a dreary day. Eye of Kali tropical hibiscus.

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billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2011
3:46 PM

Post #8343703

O.M.G.!! That is gorgeous!! I would love to have that!

Some of our highways are down to one lane. I've had the scanner on, heck, I never shut it off, and most of the accidents were people sliding in the ditches this morning. I'm glad most are just going home and staying there. You really can't see much out there now.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 1, 2011
4:08 PM

Post #8343745

Wow, nice hibiscus there Pepper! Yeah, the snow shovel is kinda outmatched by all this snow. Not long after you shovel something, it's covered back up with new snow!
I took it over to my Grandparents' to shovel a little by they're porch. I played 4 games of Chess, and got beat by my Grandfather all four games!
Here is a photo of the Truman home here in Independence, MO. this afternoon.

Wow, I-70 closed that much, I bet thats not popular with truckers! Better safe than sorry I suppose. You know those big rigs would just barrel ahead if they could, that would be dangerous.
They just said on the news that Kansas City has so far gotten 9 inches and it's still coming down good.
I bet you're Black Spruce could be it, billyp, thanks. : )
Will

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not2simple
Kansas City, MO
(Zone 5b)

February 1, 2011
4:29 PM

Post #8343791

This storm has been good for family time around here. As long as the power stays on and the internet works, we may just make. Hello, my name is Debbie and I was so happy when I found all of you. At last, a garden forum that works. Everyone stay safe, the wind is howling like a banshee out there.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 1, 2011
5:05 PM

Post #8343879

Hi not2simple!! Glad you guys are staying warm! We haven't lost power here yet either. I doubt we will but I'm crossing my fingers.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2011
4:45 AM

Post #8344481

We are drifted in. Can't get out either garage. 5' drifting across the main garage and thru the yard. We will be digging out by hand today.

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

February 2, 2011
9:02 PM

Post #8346134

It was cold & sunny here today. High was 3º.

Roads all plowed out.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 3, 2011
5:20 PM

Post #8352107

Roads are plowed and mostly cleared. Driveway will be plowed tomorrow so we can actually walk instead of stumbling. Snow is about knee deep with drifts in places taller than my truck. More snow coming this weekend.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 5, 2011
4:52 AM

Post #8354829

Will, we were lucky to not have wind after we scooped. No snow blow-in.

Laughing, I'll bet your Grandpa had been wanting to beat someone, to shake the cabin fever!

Beautiful home! Nice snow capture!

Hi Not2simple/Debbie, glad to have another person chime in. We seem to have lost some people and I miss them!

Our town streets are now double wide and the highways are good. The wind carried the snow right across the open fields. The corn stubble is showing, LOL! Most of the tall drifts in town were up here in my end. We are open to the North and West, but at the start, the snow dropped over the garage from the East.

Most of you know I'll be a Grandma in July. DD had an ultrasound and it's twins! One each. They don't run in any of our families.

The babies weigh about 8 oz now and she was 17 weeks along Monday. They are fraternal, so she ovulated twice. There's a reason for everything so I guess we'll see where it takes us :o)
SusanKC
Shawnee Mission, KS
(Zone 6a)

February 5, 2011
2:56 PM

Post #8355941

Billyporter - Congradulations on the soon to be double grandma status. Guess twins run in your family now. Are they thinkinga bout names yet or still in shock about it being twins.

The truckers were being put in one of the mall parking lots here in town. Better there than spread across the highway someplace. I saw once saw a semi truck flip around backwards, cross the grass meridian, and slide backwards 100 ft or more into the sow on the side of the road. Since he crossed in front of us it was a little scarey. Better to be stuck than on the road in those kind of conditions.

Thanks for the picture of the Hibiscus. Nice to see something looking summer like with all the winter outside.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2011
4:51 AM

Post #8356725

SusanKC, thanks! I guess they do and I'm glad I'm too old to have them myself, LOL!
DD has been thinking name. I can't wait to see what she picks, now that there is a girl :o)

I think it's the best news, that they are pulling semi's off the road. They are the last people who need to be sliding across the road at little us. Man, I'm glad you were safe!

We took the boys home yesterday afternoon. I ''had'' to play hide and seek, but we were rabbits in the ''foxhole'' tent. One of us hid and the other two had to count and go looking. We all screamed, ran and dove into the foxhole. The fox couldn't come in but he could reach in :o) It was great fun even if we had the animals a bit mixed :o)

Has anyone watched "The Marvelous Mr. Fox" movie? It is soooo good!!


shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 6, 2011
7:44 PM

Post #8358142

Yeah, congratulations billyp! Not me, I don't know that movie.
How about those Packers?! I like the Packers, even if they made fun of me at the haircut place there this Summer! All I did was ask "so who are Packers fans, the whole state?"!

Oh, Grandpa really likes to play Chess. Today, we played 6 games of which he won four!
Thanks Sallyp, the Truman home really is beautiful. Oddly enuff, I've lived here forever and never been in it. A few years ago, my Grandfather's brother nominated the state chamion Pawpaw tree across from the Truman home. Altho, they musta found a better one because this one isn't the champion anymore apparently, it's not on they're site. It's the tree on the fence in the pic, (see the Truman home there?, thats a tourist pedestrian walking).

Welcome not2simple Debbie!
Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 7, 2011
7:25 PM

Post #8360110

The game was great last night. I also rooted for the Packers and was estatic they won. Now the singing...well...could have been better but I can't blame them for messing up. That's a big gig to do.

I've been in the Truman Home once for sure. It was a school trip a long time ago. Would love to go back there again and will have to get some of my friends together and go check it out.

Is anyone around here going to the Lawn and Garden Show this weekend? I'm going Sunday. Need a couple new orchids and am gonna try to get some from David Bird.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 8, 2011
5:03 AM

Post #8360424

I got it wrong. It's ''Fantastic Mr. Fox'' and it's wonderful! Google it and watch the trailors.

I don't have a sports bone in my body :o) I don't watch the games or even know which names are football or baseball.

It would be cool to see inside the home. I was in Abraham Lincoln's when I was a kid and bored! I'd go back now.

Pepper, gotta love the school class trips!

Pictures of the orchids you want, and the ones you actually buy!!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 8, 2011
4:34 PM

Post #8361505

I went to the Lawn and Garden Show in 2003 for my Mom's birthday. It's a neat event, you get lots of ideas there, the displays and all at that is amazing.
Here is a photo of when I went back in the day.

Hey, if you ride a treadmill and lift dumbbells, you are indeed sporty! : )

A friend of mine lives just outside of Springfield, Ill. and he says Abe's ghost has been seen coming down the road in a horse-drawn buggy!
I'd love to be able to visit Lincoln sites if they were close!

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 8, 2011
5:24 PM

Post #8361593

I will try to remember to take the camera. I just emailed a friend asking him about my computer problems so hopefully I can start downloading pics again soon.

I want to visit Mark Twain's place. lol. I'd love to just be able to see Hannibal. Haven't been there since I was a baby and have no memories of it.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 9, 2011
5:04 AM

Post #8362095

Well, my throat is officially sore and the brain a bit slow. I'm fighting to keep on top of it!

Will, back in the day is right, but it's still is a great memory! Smiling over the ghost. It's a shame I don't believe in them. I spoil all the fun.

Yayyy, I'm sporty! Maybe I'm Sporty Spice, LOL! Except I can't carry a tune either.

Pepper, I've been in the M.T. cave, both with Mom on family vacations and with DH and DD, early in our years. In Muscatine, Ia they made a Mark Twain lookout over the Mississippi. We haven't been up there yet, LOL!

I hope someone can answer you questions. You lost your cord for a while there didn't you? Maybe it has a tiny break in it. I can also take my card out and download thru the printer, but I just use the cord.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 9, 2011
5:17 PM

Post #8363355

My new printer is a basic printer so I can't download thru it. I have 2 cords that fit and neither one are working. So it's a computer problem. Haven't heard back from him yet. Will give him a few days.

I would love to see the cave. Want a riverboat ride too. LOL.

Hope everyone who got the snow got around ok this morning. It was pretty slick out there!!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 9, 2011
7:05 PM

Post #8363580

Hi Pepper, I use my little SD cards to transfer photos to my puter.
Ewww.. a sore throat, hope it doesn't turn out to be more, billyp. Yes, you are sporty, Sallyp! And you didn't even know it! Maybe Posh Spice Beckham plays a little soccer, thats sporty I suppose!
You're not alone, I can't sing either! I'd even just move my lips but not actually sing in church!
I'd like to go to Hannibal, MO. and visit the Mark Twain museum too. I always did liken myself to a Huckleberry Finn type! Its much better to use the SD card in my humble opinion, because then you can download it visiting other's houses if you want to, and the card isn't ever forgotten, (speaking for myself there..lol). Also, here, a problem with cords for us is a cat, she has ruined countless devices by chewing the cords to them in two.
Yeah, I'm skeptical of ghosts too. My friend here always watches (and records) "Ghost Adventures". I tease her sometimes, I'll ask her, "Did you actually see a ghost tonite?". I think those shows kinda count on the dark footage and spooky locales and night vision and stuff. I think alot of the hotels and bars and stuff with ghosts just want the publicity..lol It IS entertainment I guess. If it brings people happiness then I am all for it.
Yeah, memories of times gone by! Back then I dreamed of a landscaping business! I kinda had some reality unfortunately, and a landscaping business is way on the back burner..lol
Will
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 9, 2011
7:20 PM

Post #8363627

I have a slot for my SD card but my card won't go in. LOL. I don't know if it's because I may not have the hardware inside the box or if the computer hates me. I do have Vista and I sure do hate it. I want Windows again. lol

JuJu55

JuJu55
Jasper Co., MO
(Zone 6b)

February 10, 2011
5:44 AM

Post #8364000

I went to Hannibal, Mo few years ago and it nice and saw in the cave so much miles inside and very dark lol...

Also there is some gifts shops, too!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 10, 2011
1:20 PM

Post #8364814

I've read about the Mark Twain attraction in Hannibal, I'd love to go there someday.
I am glad to hear there is gift shops there, I am a collector of shot glasses!
Hi Pepper, I have a Dell laptop with Windows Vista and it has the SD card slot. I think all or most computers built in the last 3 or 4 years approx. (non-custom-built) have those slots. Whats peculiar about my Dell is it has a fake piece of plastic in the slot by default to keep the slot unobstructed and clean apparently. I don't know if your's is like that or not, but that has to be taken out first.
I am exposed, I AM a computer geek! lol I sometimes frequent the computer talk forum here, there is really some knowledgeable people there that love to help also.
Its possible that you're camera didn't come with a standard sized SD card, thats unlikely, but that would stink.
Vista is Windows you silly! It's just a pretty commonly looked-down-on-version of an operating system from Microsoft, I think it stinks too. The desktop I'm on now has Windows 7 and it is good.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 10, 2011
6:28 PM

Post #8365330

I used the cards out of both of my cameras on my computer and it wouldn't go thru. But it could have that plastic in it like you said. I will have to remember that and when I get a free day take the computer apart and see if it's there.

Yeah, I got Vista because it was supposed to replace Windows whatever (lol) and become the next big thing. Instead it was and still is a big flop. lol

shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 10, 2011
7:02 PM

Post #8365421

Oh Pepper, you don't have to take it apart to see if it has that. It's shaped like an SD card, it just goes in the same slot like the card does, but it's just a piece of plastic.
Yeah, alot of people were saying then that Windows XP was better than Vista. And Vista was supposed to be this great new thing from Microsoft and I think everybody just wished they woulda stayed with XP! Windows 7 is a good advancement I think.
Will
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 10, 2011
7:12 PM

Post #8365456

i'll try to get a better look at it tomorrow. I see a plastic thing at upright angle then the metal behind it.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 11, 2011
3:05 PM

Post #8366865

Eeeee! My subscription expires in 4 days I see. Financially, things aren't terrible right now.
I'm gonna get subscribed up soon. Boy, this cold can't be good on a few potted plants outside and even a few in the ground! For instance, I have a new Peach tree, luckily it's in the ground, but it's label says only -10, and it's gotten pretty near that a couple of times.
I have the receipt to it, so I'll dig it up and return it if I must! Tho, I have such high hopes for it, well peaches for one..lol I planted 2 Creeping Phloxes by it's base and I plan (or planned!) on putting landscape edging around it and mulch even!
Will
SusanKC
Shawnee Mission, KS
(Zone 6a)

February 12, 2011
3:40 AM

Post #8367595

FYI - The metropolitain garden show is at the american royal this weekend.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 13, 2011
3:48 PM

Post #8370339

Pepper, that sucks about the computer not downloading. I hope it's a simple fix.

I remember it's cold in the cave so take a coat! I think it stays a chilly 60*. I know where there's a lady and a riverboat :o). We took a paddleboat ride when I was a kid and threw Fritos in the water. These huge fish came up to eat them. I'll bet they were Carp :o)

Will, I'd be happy to just look like Posh Spice, LOL!

ROTFL! I used to mouth the words, but I figured the people next to me couldn't hear me singing, so why bother. Anyone farther away couldn't tell either :o)

I used to read Tom Sawyer all the time. So you're the rebel Huck. He got himself in a few situations!

My cords are folded loosely and sealed in a ziplock, in my drawer. I even try to keep air in the bag.

I've tried watching the Ghost shows, but they are just too hokey.

Pepper, actually, I did try my card in the printer and my card didn't go in either. I wasn't going to force it. I think Vista hates you!

Rusty, they do do quite a long tour to my recollection. I think I remember them turning out all the lights so we coul;d see how dark it could get in there. Very dark!

Will, I have a small collection I got from my Great Aunt. She used to tend bar. I use the one with colored lines around it to measure out the coffee cream. I'll take pictures for you one of these days.

Hmmm, looks like I may have to get down and have a look too, LOL! Computer geeks are welcome!

I have Windows 7 and like it. I went from 10 year old Gateway to this, so there's no comparison for me. But it works.

Will, I hope your peach survives. They are touchy.

Have a nice night all. Funny Home Videos are almost on, LOL!

Waving to ImaMes, you were on my mind today!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 13, 2011
4:43 PM

Post #8370422

Went to the Lawn and Garden Show today and had a blast. Visited the Grass Pad booth and they had a huge sale going on where you could buy a box of bulbs for 5 bucks or a crate for 15. My friend and I got 2 boxes each of tulips and daffs and a few others mixed in.

We got to see Reed Timmer of Storm Chasers and see the car. Got me an orchid, Milt. Up Country Puna 'Keeau Star'. All in all spent too much money but it was worth every penny. The orchid was the most expensive but it's a big one and fragrant so I got a good deal really.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 14, 2011
5:06 AM

Post #8371029

Pepper, the day you had was worth every penny! You did get good deals and that covers the orchid!

It's Monday and I need to really vacume every square inch of the bedroom. I can imagine all the cough droplets in all the dust. It will feel a lot healthier when I'm done!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 14, 2011
3:20 PM

Post #8372238

Hi all,
What a muddy mess out there, but glad for the warmer temperatures. Weather.com
says its 48° F right now, thats pretty warm! And it appears to be a warm trend coming up!
Whaddaya mean Sally?! Posh Spice ain't all that!
Haha! Yeah that old Huckleberry Finn! Altho, I'd like to think I'm a little more sophisticated than him, but prolly not! lol

Glad you had a good time there, Pepper. That show really has some good deals, I remember that. It'd be hard for the plant person not to spend and go wild on buying at that, so much temptation!

Thanks billyp, I hope that Peach tree did alright this Winter, (well, does alright, I guess we're not out of the woods yet, dangit!)

Yeah, where is that ImaMes?! : )
Happy Valentines to all of you! I'd give you each a little heart candy that says, "will you be my friend?"
Will
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 14, 2011
5:32 PM

Post #8372484

Got called into work today to help out in the floral shop. Worked almost 6 hours. I don't get a day off again til Sunday unless main boss man makes me take a day off. I'm just under 40 hours if I work as scheduled the rest of the week. I'm gonna be beat!! lol

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 15, 2011
5:10 AM

Post #8372959

Will, laughing, I always thought I was like Tom Sawyer, especailly when it comes to sitting still. Give me a doodle bug to play with when things are boring!

Got the candy heart :o) Your's says, you're sweet :o)

Pepper, you might be beat, but the paycheck will be nice!

I did clean house and cupboards all afternoon. It was time to weed out things I don't use. Goodwill gets two sacks. The garbage man gets a recycling tub full of plastics. The old Tupperware is weeded out and the whole house got a good vacuuming, with attatchments, LOL!

I soaked some pots also and hope to sow columbine and other touchy seed I haven't had any luck with.
Justgrowin
Adrian, MO

February 15, 2011
10:46 AM

Post #8373457

HI I just joined this forum; glad to see some folks from the Jackson Co, MO area. I am in Bates county and am watching the snow melt! What a muddy mess. I've got seeds germinatng in flats all over the house in preparation for Spring.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 15, 2011
5:05 PM

Post #8374071

Welcome Justgrowin!! It is a muddy mess out there!! My truck only has black on the hood and roof now. LOL.

I'm still beat today. All my joints hurt and occasionally my head hurts. Several coworkers noticed it and commented on it but they were also there at work yesterday so they understand why. I'm hoping tomorrow is better. lol.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 16, 2011
5:48 AM

Post #8374702

Hi Justgrowin! Garden seeds, flower seeds or both? I really can't do anything till late April, unless some of the flower seeds need 12 weeks. I did sow columbines and filled the flat with just them. Three to a pot. If they all grow I'm in trouble, LOL! I set them on the side porch and hope the cold weather will help them. I don't have luck with them in the warmth of the house.

Awww Pepper, I hope it's better today. I guess none of us are really ready to be super busy yet. It takes some time to ''wake up'' after all the cold weather.

DH scooped off some of the garden so I can at least see dirt :o) He did it so the water sould soak in instead of running into the garage, LOL! Still, it's nice to see black under the white.

I hope I can pull the Christmas ornaments out of the dirt one of these days. They really look out of place.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 16, 2011
5:31 PM

Post #8376033

Am feeling much better today!! Mostly normal. lol. Most of us working that day in floral are finally feeling better today. It's about time!! LOL

We're starting to see plenty of dirt around here finally. And the snow that's not soaking in is running along the side of the roads and filling up the ditches. Kinda nice to see. lol

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 17, 2011
4:31 AM

Post #8376560

I was looking for snow in your squirrel picture, LOL! I'm glad you weren't the only worn out person at work and glad you're feeling much better!

It's amazing how much our snow has shrunk! I couldn't believe the 52* this morning. The more it slowly soaks in the better! I still can't see the flower beds, but have clear patches in the grass. We are halfway thru February and I wonder, am I really ready for Spring? What is the first thing I'm going to do? I don't know! It depends on how wet everything is!! Panic! LOL!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2011
5:50 PM

Post #8378021

95% of the snow around here is gone. What's left is in shady areas where the sun can't reach and along ditches where the snow has piled up. Creeks are full but not dangerously. That will happen when it rains here in the next few days. All in all it's kinda nice out. If you don't mind mud and muck. LOL
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2011
8:13 PM

Post #8379956

Spring is around the corner! I think I'll put my hardy-but-still-in-a-pot plants out so I can have the floor space in the garage. I think those potted plants will likely be able to handle the temperatures until warm weather.
Awwww... the candy heart says I'm sweet?! I AM a sweet person you know! Thanks for the compliment Sally!
Not much snow left around here, it's still piled up here and there, not many piles left though. One good thing about mud I guess, it's good shoveling! I shoveled mud for about 2 hours straight today, in preparation for my landscaped area in the back I am about to do. I'm about halfway done with it, I'm gonna work some more tomorrow on it. I have a photo here of what I've been doing some of.
Its funny, this photo only shows the post hole digger still showing metal. I musta took the photo about halfway down or something, when I was done you couldn't see the metal part, that hole is 2 feet deep! I am gonna lay down weed fabric and then mulch there, it'll encompass the Bamboo trench, a Trumpet Vine, (for which I am digging the hole for it's landscape timber in concrete), Surprise Lilies, and a Mimosa tree and anything else I plant in there later, (which could be quite a lot!). Thats the trellis thing for the vine to grow on, it's top right of the photo, (it's a former futon frame!).
Does anyone know of a hardy flower that blooms nicely in a heavily shaded spot? Astilbe?
Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 19, 2011
10:23 AM

Post #8380672

Astible, helebores, climbing hydranga, bleeding hearts are a few.

Here's a link that has a bunch listed; http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/horticulture/dg1428.html
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

February 19, 2011
10:32 AM

Post #8380693

Lots of new faces, Hi everyone, I didn't try to catch up with all the post! LOL
I have been away from DG for awhile. January was a horrible month for me and my family, but Feb seems to better thank goodness. Hope everyone is doing well and I haven't missed anything earth shattering except maybe Arkansas... ;)

SusanKC, did you go to the garden show? I did and managed to spend money but didn't think it was as good as normal. I usually buy some strange upright elephant ears and things and they didn't have as many bulbs and dry roots as normal. Think the economy has gotten to some of them. My neighbor was there with his little booth, he is really only there for advertising but he was selling $5 hummingbird feeders and yard stuff. He owns Comanche Acres Iris farm. If you have never been up there you should really go around Mothers Day, there are acres and acres of iris blooming. Beautiful! Do you go to garden show at Bartle? I have never been to the one in Johnson County. I thought this year I was going to go to the one in Wichita but a friend who was going to go with me has a wedding that Saturday...I heard it is excellant and I thought it would be a fun long day trip.

Shortleaf your fishes are doing fine even tho they were covered in snow after the blizzard. The pond heater kept the snow off the water but it drifted like a dome over the top of the pond, it was the strangest thing. I thought the pond was frozen and almost had the big one, ran out with the shovel, stuck it in the snow expecting to hit ice but instead lifted a section of the dome off the pond, not sure how the snow made that dome without support but it sure did...odd. Stronger than some sports stadiums!



happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

February 19, 2011
10:33 AM

Post #8380695

Pepper that is an amazing hibiscus, so bright.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 19, 2011
10:55 AM

Post #8380713

I stopped by Comanche Acres when I was at the show. My friend has been wanting to go there for several years and we are hoping to make it this year. I almost bought some of his stuff since it was so cheap but resisted. LOL

Glad you are back Happ!! Was wondering what you were up too. Glad things are going better for you now. :~)
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 19, 2011
3:48 PM

Post #8381212

Welcome Justgrowin! I got some cuttings about 3 years ago from a nice member near you I think, cat64129. The only one of those cuttings that I have left and haven't managed to kill is a purple Wandering Jew from her. It cannot be killed and it is so pretty and extraordinarily hardy for a houseplant. I have plenty of cuttings of it if anybody would like some. It's flourishing right now under a shop-lite with grow bulbs in it down in the garage.
I went outside a little while ago with my work gloves on, my work shirt on, by gosh I was really gonna get something done! Then, it started sprinkling lightly. I was straightening out my extension cord for some cutting with my trusty electric chainsaw, (I am cutting up railroad ties to make them manageable to get rid of).
They say back in the day they were used alot in landscaping because they contain creosote, well, now they say "creosote leaks into everything, so get rid of railroad ties!".
Well, it starts sprinkling heavier, I am thinking, "well, isn't this great"! So, I just whip out my camera and snap a photo in the heavy sprinkle, so at least I can say I did something!
I run inside as fast as I can, (so the neighbors don't think there is really something wrong with me), it is now raining! Well, the neighbors are in for a surprise when I go back out there in a bit, prolly in the rain and in the dark. Like last nite, I was out there in the dark shoveling mud! I tell you, I am really excited about the landscaping I plan back there. And, even better, I've been given the green lite from the homeowner here to do it!

Hehe, billyp has a panic room! : )

Welcome back happ! Sorry to hear things haven't been that great, I can relate, things suck at times. I am glad to hear them fishes are up and about. I am gonna be working on the pond soon, I've already raked the leaves out of it, but it's too full of water to dig more, which is what I really need to do on it. My cousin once broke the ice on my Grandmother's fishpond that froze over, needless to say all the Koi had died, they could also have died from gas buildup when it was frozen over tho. They say don't break the ice if you can avoid it, because it's likely to kill the fish. What a heater, give that thing a bucket of oats!! My Grandpa says that about his knight or my knight in Chess! I think he just likes saying it, he'll say it about any piece in Chess if the horsey one, (the knight, isn't earning it's keep)! I found out another phrase he says is his own original! When times get tough in Chess, he'll say, "the cheese is binding"! I don't even know what it means, so if it's nasty, sorry! He's an ordained minister, so I doubt that it's nasty! Hehe, it's stronger than the stadium in Minn.!

Thanks Pepper for those ideas and the link, I went to it and read about gardening in the shade, very useful, thanks, I bookmarked it.
That is a real pretty hibiscus up there Pepper. I still have those 'Red Shield' hibs from you potted up in the basement. They haven't shown any signs of life yet. I hope I haven't killed them with the fiftyish degree temps. down there. I water them once a week or so when I water the other stuff.
Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 19, 2011
5:42 PM

Post #8381399

I killed mine so if yours doesn't make it then I won't feel bad. lol. I think I still have a few seeds floating around here somewhere. I'll have to grow it again.

Glad the link was helpful. I was gonna just copy and paste the plants then figured it's just easier to post the link. lol

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 20, 2011
7:04 AM

Post #8382183

3:00 am thunder, 3:30 am, cat wants me to get up, 4:00am, I get up, but ONLY so I don't miss any of the rain. 4:30 am one more bit of thunder, ahhh.

Will, I'll bet you could set the pots out. Thinking of floor or table space sometimes influences our decisions, LOL! I love to Spring clean and put things away.

Yep, you are sweet. It shows :o)

That's a lot of scooping, but it's two hours accomplished.

Happ, I missed you! I was afraid you were done for, but haven't even had time to go to your page to see if you were due to renew. I'm due for renewal now, so will have to do that pretty soon.

I'm so sorry to hear you had a crappy January. I had wondered if you're Mom was ok.

I think any Garden Show sounds really nice. Just to get out of the house and look is worth it.

Laughing over the snow dome and panic attack! We had the snow, loop over, and there was a tunnel all the way thru. That was a new one for us too!

Pepper, how could you resist? Even with the iris borer, I seem to accuulate new iris and then fret over them for the rest of their life!

Will, I used to have Wandering Jew. The are beautiful. But, I went thru all the houseplants in my youth and don't care to keep any anymore, except for the aloe plant.

We are apparently getting your yesterday's rain, today. I am glad to see it!

We will be getting rid of the RR ties that line our driveway and already got rid of those I had in a flower bed. We cobbed them from the RR anyway, when they replaced them with new ones. Well, they didn't use them. They just set them all on fire, so pooh to them. We only took a couple. They were the only fairly good ones left. The driveway, DH bought from a work friend.

Will, laughing, I kind of understand your Grandfathers cheese phrase! I liken it to "the plot thickens" :o)
Which picture is that? You have so many projects going on I forget.

Pepper, had to smile over you killing your's. It sounds like they just aren't basement plants and the seeds would work better.

One Grandchild coughing over the whole house over the week end. I was glad to take him back home, LOL! The one who was usually sick has his adenoids out and tubes in his ears now. It's working for him and I'm glad. I'm still fighting the sinus and thought I'd have tonsilitis today, on one tonsil, LOL! For some reason it was gone this morning. I think I will be on the mend. I better be!

My tomato seeds came, so the garden is complete. Just need a pea fence put back in, a new driveway and I'm good to go. I sure wish I had more garden room. I just don't have too many sunny areas left.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 21, 2011
8:51 PM

Post #8385614

Oops, sorry, that is my fishpond in it's unfinished state! I posted in blue_eyes thread accidently, it was supposed to be in here. Everybody in Missouri isn't imbeciles, just me blue_eyes! : )
My Grandpa is a funny sort, kinda like me! Oh, his version of, "the plot thickens" is "I see you're fiendish plot!" He has my plots down pretty good, he wins over 2/3 of the games we play. Actually, from what I've read about advice and rules on Chess is they don't even recommend talking, it can give away strategy. I suppose I can see how that could be, but its all in fun mostly and it's hard to resist friendly ribbing and whatnot!
Today, I got lucky, I beat him 2 out of 3 games, a rarity, overall, its his 49 to my 29 since about Thanksgiving when we started playing alot.
You guys must renew if you're subscriptions get up!
Heres my latest and greatest Wandering Jew, it's a fancy one I got at Walmart for like $2.96 or something a little while back. It's in the photo, sorry about my cheesy grin, I think the camera got the photo when I was grinning! Haha! yeah, they said our nasty weather was going North and gonna miss us, sorry!
I'm gonna wait a while Pepper, before I give up on those 'Red Shield' cuttings, many times I've had cuttings a long time and it takes a long for them to show signs of life, I'm thinking at least 6 more months. With my cuttings, it isn't usually over until a cat lays in the pot repeatedly (without me noticing) and uproots the cutting, I wait quite a while! Well, that doesn't always happen, but I wait a long time! lol
Those railroad ties put up a fight, but I was persistent! I did whatever I had to to get them outta there! I hit them with a sledgehammer, cut them into pieces with my chainsaw, pried on them with a pick, and I'm about halfway done removing them!
Ewww, sinus trouble, it does sound unpleasant Sally.
Happ, if you're still out there, were you still able to get that dark red climbing Rose? You don't have to do alot of digging, just a cutting should do it.
Will

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 21, 2011
8:51 PM

Post #8385615

Heres my trellis thing and the pieces sitting around that I'm going to use, I tell you, I do stuff on the cheap! Thats an old futon frame and the metal post from the previous deck pillar/support will be the support for the whole thing, it will be in concrete is the plan. I aim to have an old Trumpet Vine growing up it.

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 22, 2011
4:31 AM

Post #8385829

Will, now explained, I do get your Grandpa's meaning. That is so funny! He must be fun to hang around with and it's nice you can enjoy him! Games with family should be more about fun, and congrats on your wins! That must have been sweet!

Yep, cheesy :o) It looks like you might have been saying cheese :o) Nice little plant!

Yeah, RR ties are big and tough. The worst is the creosoted ones. I can't wait to get rid of ours. I don't know where we'll take them, but they have to go. They are so late 70's.

The old frame looks just fine and will hold a lot of vine! It sure beats throwing it on the fire to get rid of it.
Justgrowin
Adrian, MO

February 23, 2011
5:16 PM

Post #8389034

HI All
I finally got back here and read everyone's post. It sounds like you all have spring fever just like I do. I still have more seeds to plant, and some trees to pot up. I'm getting a few Harry Lauder Walking Sticks in so will be potting those up soon. They are such neat plants.
I wanted to get to the Home & Garden show in KC but couldn't. Would love to hear more about Cheyenne Acres and where they are.
We are expecting rain, sleet and snow tomorrow, drat ! I have a ton of things to do.
Notice there are some Chess players here. Occasionally my husband and I play. His nephew is really good, one year he was the Kansas State champion chess player. But I'm lucky to win ever now and then.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 23, 2011
6:09 PM

Post #8389161

Yeah, Grandpa is fun to be around. I could be so lucky to live to be his age, 89. Saying cheese?! Not me, my camera was sitting on a shelf on self-timer! lol Sorry about all the mess in the photo, that was in the garage where the plants are, there is some clutter down there, I'll be cleaning up later. Hehe, late 70's eh?! I'm thinking even older than that here for the RR ties. This house was built in 1965, I am thinking they go back to then! They might've even looked okay back then, but if nothing else, they are deteriorating now! Some of them are kinda hollow, you drop them and like this sawdust/mud falls out everywhere!
Thanks, I hope that old bed frame does the job. I've been kicking it around for years trying to come up with a use for it, I hope I found it!

Oh, I love Chess, I'm really not that good though. I talk a big game, but I usually lose! lol
I'd love to have just one Harry Lauder Walking Stick, but they are so expensive at most places. But, what a cool look on that little tree. Commanche Acres does sound like a neat place, I never got into Irises much, but I might someday soon!
I have Spring Fever too alright! I love nice days outside where I can do a little something for a little while. Its kinda iffy working with concrete when its this cool, but it got up to 55° or so today.
They say not to do concrete jobs under freezing or so, so I cut that close, but it's just for a pole and it set up in about 30 minutes after I poured it in there this afternoon.
This photo shows my up and coming Red Honeysuckle or Trumpet Vine pole and trellis going up! I don't really know what that old vine is, my friend here calls it Red Honeysuckle.
Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 23, 2011
6:26 PM

Post #8389192

Will, just go to PG, carry pruners in your pocket and get a cutting of the Harry Lauder Walking Stick that's in the Perennial Garden. Just make sure no one is around. lol

JustGrowin, Commanche Acres is an iris farm located outside of St. Joseph. Here is their website: http://www.comancheacresiris.com/
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 23, 2011
6:45 PM

Post #8389229

Thats an idea! But, can that tree be propagated by cutting? I thought it might be grafted or air layered maybe.
But, I got a Swamp White Oak growing outside in a pot now from acorns that I got from Powell Gardens years ago. I'm not adverse to getting seeds or something from a place like Powell Gardens if I must!
Will
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

February 24, 2011
6:20 AM

Post #8389858

Morning.

Any willow tree can be started from a cutting, but not so sure about an oak, I would doubt it. Infact my family got a flower arrangement that had 3 willow branches in it. A family member took it home and then called me a few weeks later because the willow sticks had sprouted...

Comanche Acres is about 40 miles north of downtown KC and about the same but south of St. Joseph. It is close to Plattsburg, MO. They have acres of iris and now their stock of spuria is getting larger, which I am just getting into. They have water gardens and few peonies. Justgrowin, if you are going to go to the iris farm, there is a MG group and the FFA group of high school kids who have a plant sale about that time, plan to do them together. I will post a date as soon as I find out. Comanche Acres sells some iris in May when they are open, others you have to wait until late summer. I buy most of mine in May and I am here to tell you I have less problems out of them and no problems with them heeving in the winter. Love buying locally, so I do buy alot from them, found a daylily guy in a small town up north, buy hostas from a small nursery in Independence (couldn't figure out how it overwintered everything) but have since read lots of comments that you can overwinter hostas in pots above the ground without any problems. Sides paying shipping is horrible. I can usually buy another plant for the shipping cost.

I did do a spuria coop one time from Comanche, which saved money to DG'ers cause it was only shipping to their house cause I went and picked them up.

Sleet is coming down in downtown KC. yuck!

Justgrowin
Adrian, MO

February 24, 2011
12:17 PM

Post #8390478

Planting more seeds today, tomatoes,, peppers, and various flowers. Hope I have some vermiculite in the garage, as I read that putting that over the seeds helps prevent dampening off. I've already lost 2 crops of zinnias, grrrr. Had hoped to have some for sale this spring. I have a little backyard nursery and will be selling plants (hopefully).
Glad the weather is not as bad as predicted. Down here we just have cold rain and the temps have been in upper 30s. Wind is very chilly though. Chilly, hmm, makes me think of chili, maybe that is what I will have for supper!
Thought about the Grandpa's comment of "the cheese is binding" . Wonder if it meant that things were getting a little "constipated" or binding, meaning he's having trouble moving the pieces! LOL Love the comment about the knights, I"ll have to remember that.
I'm checking out the cheyenne acres website. Thanks for posting that.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 24, 2011
1:28 PM

Post #8390594

Do you have a pretty good light setup for growing indoors before warm outside Justgrowin? I only have one 4 ft. shoplite with plant bulbs in it for about 20 plants and it looks quite silly! Haha, yeah, my Grandpa loves that game! He gets all in this zone and everything, I think he forgets at times that I'm his Grandson! Oh, he loves strategizing and stuff and really putting the pressure on his opponent! Sometimes, tho, I'll get him all in a tizzy in that game, not often but sometimes I do!
Oh, he gets all excited about Chess! He says stuff like his armpits are soaked, his brow is sweaty, his chair is wet (from sweat, of course!)! He has this thing about telling me, "I'll even play you left handed". Actually, he does have to play left handed now because his right hand is in a cast, he fell about 2 weeks ago and broke a finger. Yeah, I have thought too that might be what, "the cheese is binding" means! I'll ask him sometime and see what he says it means, I'm curious too, it's so funny!
Yeah, this sleet and stuff is just awful. Up here, it's bad, but North of the river and I believe they said on the news also, North of I-70 is downright treacherous to drive.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 24, 2011
5:22 PM

Post #8390982

50 Hwy was a solid sheet of black ice this morning. A driver called into 94.1 and said that on a certain stretch there were 15 accidents. Right after that a truck driver got on there and asked people to turn their headlights on cause it was whiteout conditions at Lee Summit Rd there on I-70.

I ran carts a couple times today and wished I had my scarf with me. That sleet was trying to tear up my face!! Weird thing was it looked just like snow coming down til it hit bare skin. I finally gave up and made one of the girls on the next shift do it. LOL. Told her it was her turn!!

RIght now we are getting snow. Weird thing is at work we got more sleet than anything. Here at home, it looks like we got more snow. Ground was white when I got home.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 24, 2011
6:51 PM

Post #8391125

Here is a Weeping Willow at my Sister's and Brother-In-Law's house. It started out as a cutting about 6 years ago, from me. Thats it in the back, it's the yellowish tree.
Another tree from me there is that evergreen tree on the right, it's an Eastern Red Cedar, I dug it up as a little sidewalk crack seedling and potted it up, and eventually gave it to my Sister and Brother-In-Law. I also gave them a large, shrub/small tree in that mound thing over on the left, it is one of several Ozark Witch Hazel seedlings I gave them last year.
At first, he planted that Weeping Willow around 2 feet from the fence, I told him, "thats too close to the fence, it might be small now, but it won't stay small".
I am glad he did move it about 8 feet from the fence and I think the tree is glad too! It's still a little too close to the fence, it's gonna hang over the neighbor's yards..lol They say the neighbors and everybody loves that tree tho. You can see they're next-door neighbor tried to keep up with the Joneses, it's funny, thats the BIL's name! Anyway, I don't know if the neighbor's Weeping Willow tree ever got any Fall colors, but in the photo it was still green! But, my Sister's and BIL's Weeping Willow has turned out to be quite the specimen. I always told them to prune all the multi-trunks off or they're just gonna have a big, weak bush of a tree. I'm glad they didn't listen to me actually, it has turned out very nice so far! Weeping Willows are indeed easy to grow from cuttings. I gave away some cuttings of it from that tree at the Fall RoundUp 09'. I think Pepper got one, not sure. That tree LOVES water, in my Sister's and BIL's backyard rainwater stands all around that tree and the tree loves it! That rock wall was put there years ago for that tree by my BIL, to hold in the rainwater as long as possible.

Yeah, this weather is a bummer. They say it won't be here long though, they said its going away like a bad haircut and I know about bad haircuts!
Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 24, 2011
7:06 PM

Post #8391141

You gave me a cutting to give to a friend. She now has it planted in her back yard.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 24, 2011
7:09 PM

Post #8391148

Will, that Red Cedar will eventually outgrow their yard. lol. I hope they know that. The one we have is HUGE. I'll see if I can find a good pic of it.

This is a partial shot but gives you an idea of size. Especially with the lamps and water bowl in front. lol. We just trimmed it up a bit late last year too.

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 24, 2011
7:57 PM

Post #8391217

I hope it does good for her too, I can get more of them! Yeah, I have told them it's gets big. They always say, "oh, we won't be here when it gets that big", which I don't know about, they seem
pretty set where they are for awhile..lol Oh, I have photos of some big, old Eastern Red Cedars! You know what this means don't you?! You know I have to bore everybody with some photos of big, old Eastern Red Cedar trees! lol

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 24, 2011
8:02 PM

Post #8391227

The cutting of that Weeping Willow tree came from this old now removed tree from Fleming Park outside of Independence, MO. It's better known as Lake Jacomo. You can tell that tree has some age because the top of it is dead. I think that means it's old and on it's way out, or sick and on it's way out. Either way , it was a neat tree, I was glad to get cuttings from it years ago.
See the duck?
Will

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 26, 2011
6:05 AM

Post #8393521

Hi Justgrowin, I have a second Harry Lauder and just love it. The first five years I had to grow it in chicken wire because the rabbits chewed my first beautiful one down to the ground. It's really getting some size on the trunk now. They grow so very slow!

Laughing, I tried to learn chess and it goes right over my head. I'm more a solitare player. I am not competetive.

Will, RR ties did used to look good, but they were made for landscaping. Ours have rotted and faded too. It's time to get rid of them. They were only put in to hold the rock in the driveway.

I think your cemented post will do just fine. The ground should stay moist enough for it to cure.

Pepper, ROTFL!!! I'm not sure how easy it is to get cuttings to root. I've tried with pieces the rabbit chewed, but didn't know how to do it, as they never took. There's a difference between hardwood and softwood and when you do it.

Happ, smiling over the same thing happening with pussy willows :o)
It is fascinating how easy they can be started.

I would love to get into some of the wild iris. I broke down and bought an iris book for Christmas one year. I love it! It's "Irises, A Gardeners Encyclopedia,'' by Claire Austin and covers everything with a lot of photographs. I refuse to buy illustrated books. It was $50.00, but I treasure it!

Justgrowin, I found a huge bag of vermiculite at Menards, the kind used for insulation, but was garden friendly. I shared it with my Dad. We use it for sowing carrots and other seeds almost too weak to push up the dirt by them selves, straight in the garden. At Earl May's, I found a bag of the fine. Big difference, and I do like it!

I hope you get enough to sell at your nursery. We had a guy in town that did that before he died. I was down there almost every day!

Will, your Grandpa is hilarious! It would be a joy to sit with him! I think he means the game is finally getting to the playoff stage. It will take some thinking now, to win.

Pepper, never go anywhere in winter without grabbing all winter gear, LOL! I can feel the sleet stinging!

Will, cool to be giving your Sis and BIL all the plantings! We'll see how the neighbors like to pick up after the willow, because they will every time they want to mow. Otherwise, it is a beautiful little tree for now.

Pepper, that is magnificent! What a windbreak!

Will, smiling over the big Cedars :o) Cool that you saved a tree :o) I see the duck!

It's snowing very lightly again. It's a good day to be in recouperating!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 26, 2011
5:44 PM

Post #8394561

We got freezing rain instead of snow. YUCK!!! More rain tomorrow but at least we are supposed to see 50!!

Has everyone noticed the big hike in gas prices? I just paid $3.21 a gallon. Ouch! First time ever I have paid over $2.99. lol

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 27, 2011
9:56 AM

Post #8395497

Pepper, I think it's only going to get worse before they just happen to let the prices back down. Rann in Iceland paying $7? Europe probably isn't much better. They have to pay it, so why shouldn't we, thinks the oil companies.

I am so sick of the greed in the world and the big guy standing on the little guy's shoulders and the little guy standing on the littlest guy's shoulders. It makes me sick with the unbalance. Ok, off the box!

Have a restful Sunday folks!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
10:34 AM

Post #8395564

Okay where is all this melting at? It is just real foggy and not raining! The meteorologists should be ashamed of themselves! Well, the day isn't over yet I guess, maybe it'll melt.
I remember the Summer of 08', gas was nearly $4 a gallon when I was doing foreclosure clean-outs and it helped financially drain me in less than 2 months. Grandpa is hilarious, they say there is 3 parts to a Chess game, the beginning, the middle and the end game, I think his end game is "the cheese is binding" game!
Here is a photo a few minutes ago, out the window.
Will

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 27, 2011
11:23 AM

Post #8395648

Will, it's 34* here right now but not much melting going on. We need a bit more sun to peek theu. No rain yet either.

We are at the mercy of OPEC. They set the price and there needs to be Government regulations. I know people think less Government, but no. Someone has to police us because we won't do it ourselves. When was the last time your State tried to get itself out of a mess? OK... off the box!

I think the Prednesone is bringing out the feisty in me, LOL! I usually keep political to myself because I am not well informed in it.

Lets hope something is bound and broken! LOL!

Your window is my window.

Winter can't fight March! Not here, not there!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
12:11 PM

Post #8395723

The Weather channel says it's 35° here now with a high of 48° and thundershowers tonite, ahem.. it can do that anytime!! - http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Independence+MO+64054
Yeah, Opec stinks. I forget which country of Opec, they say every resident of that country is a millionaire, I don't know if thats true or not, Saudi Arabia or the UAE maybe. Working at home must cut into oil consumption pretty good! I haven't driven my truck in about 2 weeks. The last time I got gas for it was before Christmas, I filled up. I just switched on the second tank, it prolly won't be empty until sometime this Spring! I'm leaving in a few minutes to play Chess with the cheeseman, wish me luck! It will be the first time I've driven my truck in a while, hope it starts!
Yeah, March and April is gonna put a hurting on old man Winter!
Will
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
2:30 PM

Post #8396014

Storming here. Not a huge cell from what I saw but it looked potent. The fog hasn't gone anywhere either!! I still see it in the rain. Crazy!!

Well, spring fever has hit me. I was at WalMart and they are starting to put out bulbs and stuff. I got me a thing of Peruvian Daffodils and a thing of hollyhocks.

JuJu55

JuJu55
Jasper Co., MO
(Zone 6b)

February 27, 2011
4:51 PM

Post #8396354

As oil is rising up to $101 a barrel!

In California, it up to $4.21 a gallon... Around here is $3.19... As by summer will up to $5.00 a gallon...
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
4:56 PM

Post #8396374

Hey guys! Those of you who live in Southern MO and other areas around TN please follow these links. There is an Amber Alert for a DG member's daughter and he needs all the help he can get. I'm just posting links to his posts about this instead of the whole thread.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=8395685

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=8396335
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2011
6:08 PM

Post #8396617

I hope he finds his daughter. The thunderstorms have started here, but I think it might too little rain and it's too cold to melt all the snow, we'll see.
How about Brecks flowers doing this all free, well except shipping, which appears to be around $10 on that $25 order. They're website doesn't have the same offer but I wonder if they're free catalog has that offer? I agree too, just a matter of time before gas is $5 a gallon prolly!

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 28, 2011
5:15 AM

Post #8397229

Will, those thunderstorms rolled thru here last night with wonderful thunder that shook the house and windows. I love to hear it! Naturally it froze, but we don't seem to be a sheet of ice today and the scanner only had one wreck on the interstate.

Good luck! Make the Cheeseman sweat!

Pepper, laughing! it is so tempting when they are fresh on the shelves.

Rusty, it's depressing, but most people will stop driving for fun. They'll have to.

Pepper, OMG!! I just went to the Porch and see she's back. OMG!

Will, I actually ordered from Brecks. The last time I did, it was for the Thalictrum and they wrote back with ''out of stock.'' I ordered it again this year. The only thing from the whole book. We'll see how it looks if I get it.

Actually, those are good deals and they aren't a hoax.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 28, 2011
1:32 PM

Post #8398282

Billyp, you're weather sounds very similar to ours right now. It thundered big and rained steady last nite and evening yesterday here. Oh, I got the cheeseman good in Chess yesterday.
The one game I lost, I just made a couple bad mistakes that cost me that game. After I made one move, I immediately knew I made a terrible move but it was too late! He offered to let me take it back but I said "oh no", I had already taken my finger off it. I am kinda a stickler and I want the people I am playing to be too. I am going to order Breck's Lily Tree Purple Prince© if I remember to before the offer expires which I've done before on stuff! Like I did on the Michigan Bulb catalog. They'll send another one, they always do. I remember last year they sent three catalogs! lol I must have they're Banana 'basjoo'. I really want this lily tree from Breck's too though, so I'm gonna get on it soon I think. By gosh, I'm gonna have a flowering tree if it kills me! Hey, even though I am only up to $8.65 an hour at my job, I can still afford a couple plants by gosh!
Will
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

February 28, 2011
1:34 PM

Post #8398284

Oops, I meant to insert a photo of they're Lily Tree!

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

February 28, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8398670

Savannah was found safe, today I think it was. So the Amber Alert is called off and they are dealing with everything now.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 1, 2011
4:23 AM

Post #8399354

Will, I am not a cheater or slider in games either.

I won't order from Michigan Bulb, unless they have improved the quality of their plants. Spring Hill used to be as bad and they did pick up on the size of their plants. But, I have my favorites and don't care to try them again.

The lily tree looks nice! Research it thru Garden Watchdog.

Pepper, that was such horrible news and I couldn't believe it happened. I am so glad it's over now!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 1, 2011
8:01 PM

Post #8401512

Me too!!!
Justgrowin
Adrian, MO

March 14, 2011
5:31 PM

Post #8427202

Well, it's been a while since I've been on this site! Been really busy planting seeds, and I received a bunch of dormant roots plants in. I've been selling them over the internet, so have been busy packing and shipping thank goodness! Still have more to sell though. Old Fashioned Bleeding hearts, Astilbe, Happy Returns daylilies, AND elderberry cuttings. Elderberries are quite the health food now. Lots of research out there about their antioxidant qualities and it helps to keep you from getting the flu. The weather had been cooperating until we got this snow and cold, it is supposed to get down to 27 degrees tonight, but warm up this week. I want to move my little plants out to the greenhouse, but can't yet. My little Yorkie Libby thinks she has to be in on everything. She's always pulling a tag or a small plant out of the pot and chews on it. She gets up on her hind legs to look into my raised beds and "supervises" me when I plant or weed. Good litttle mouser too.
Well hope everyone is well and I know we are all anxiously awaiting SPRING.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 19, 2011
4:16 AM

Post #8435889

I've been down with the flu. H1N1. I'll be getting a shot from now on. Hope to be back soon. I have no energey yet.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 19, 2011
8:09 AM

Post #8436213

Get well Sally!
indianagardner
Louisville, KY
(Zone 6a)

March 19, 2011
8:32 AM

Post #8436242

We use the elderberry tonic too. I make my own with elderberries, echinacea and other herbs.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 20, 2011
5:17 AM

Post #8437787

Justgrowin, I have to smile. I'm just now reading your post before mine. Elderberries and flu. Man!

Good luck with selling all your stock. I can't even get excited about any hard work yet. In a few days I'll be ready tho. I'm on my last day of Tamiflu and feel almost up to par.

Thanks Will!

Indianagardener, another elderberry user.

We finally have rain coming. It spit in the night, but my iris are still shriveled and dry. I got out and walked the yard. My crocus are up and some of the tulips I replanted last Fall. I am so excited!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 20, 2011
5:11 PM

Post #8439079

Crocuses up here but not blooming. Unless they are alliums. lol. I need to check plantfiles on them. I also have tulips and daffs doing good. A few more weeks and tulips should be blooming if not sooner.

I also finally got another blueberry bush as a pollinator to the one I've had a couple years. Hope I get blueberries this year. It's the smaller size I was looking for, 4x4. Funny part was it's Walmart that had it. lol. Lowes and Home Depot all had bigger ones. Got it cheap too for 10 bucks for a gallon size I think it is.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 21, 2011
5:13 AM

Post #8439992

Pepper, since Rusty already had crocus, I would think you would too. I'll bet they are alliums :o)

I'm happy to see tulips that I moved last year. At last, I can look out windows and see them here and there instead of all in one bed. I still have those in the garden that will have to bloom and be re-marked and moved. Someday, I'll get all of them dealt with!

I hope you get blueberries too! I love them!

I'm still tired and getting tired of it! I managed to do a few things yesterday, but sat in bed and read. I didn't even feel like going outside :o(
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

March 21, 2011
6:08 AM

Post #8440111

My Crocuses are up and blooming, surprised yours aren't Pepper.
Didn't get much done outside yesterday it was sooo windy. Got a little done. Probably got more done the other day when I was off than yesterday.

Washed all the big elephant ears in the solar room, top and bottom, busy fighting spider mites...yuck!

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 21, 2011
5:21 PM

Post #8441537

Mine are blooming today!! Almost didn't see them because they are so tiny. lol
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 21, 2011
8:01 PM

Post #8441985

I need to get my Elephant Ear bulbs separated out of the one pot they're in before they start growing. I was pleasantly surprised last year there is so many EE leaves in one bulb, I was thinking when I bot them that it was 1 leaf per bulb, boy was I wrong! It is about 5 leaves per bulb, and all of them in one pot, even tho big, is no good! I'm still raking leaves from last Fall, today I raked up like 6 yard sacks. It has to be done I guess, the leaves are about a foot deep and some stuff is or will have a hard time sprouting up with any vigor and happiness!
Glad you're feeling better Sally, the Flu does stink, H1N1 or regular Flu. I remember having the Flu, you absolutely don't feel like doing anything. I try to avoid the Flu at all costs, it is a real bummer, not to mention it's so dangerous, Flu isn't to be taken lightly. I went into Walgreens last year doing the uninsured thing in they're Minute Clinic. I walked in wearing a dust mask and people in line were staring! I said, "don't be alarmed, I might have Swine Flu!" Turned out, it wasn't Swine Flu, they said I had bronchitis, you can't be too cautious with the Flu. I am a home health care worker and my name would be mud if I gave people anything!

My Crocuses are pretty much done, they are all flopped over and laying on the ground now. Better late than never, Pepper! Crocuses are such a nice reminder that it's early Spring.

Blueberries are so nice to have, not just for the Blueberries, but for the brilliant red Fall color, I bought several Blueberry plants at the Lowes late October special time last year. Have you seen the price of a package of Blueberries at the grocery store? It's like $5 for a medium size pkg., they are very nutritious!

I've been working on my landscape projects in the backyard, putting my fallen "roadside bluff" limestone rocks to use right now, just around my proposed "tropical spot". I have yet to get a Banana 'basjoo' to anchor the "tropical spot". I've got to break that big rock in the photo (in the middle) in half or something, it kinda looks funny with the little rocks!? I plan on painting that wall white and getting rid of that old pipe sticking up on the left. How do you like my lava-rocks? Makes you feel like you're in Waikiki, doesn't it?! lol And the seashell?! Okay, not exactly the Fla. keys, but if you put you're mind to it! Now, if these Palm trees will just sprout! I've got Louisiana Palmetto seeds, Windmill Palm seeds and California Fan Palm seeds, one of them has to grow here for Petes sake! lol
That is a cool Bunny there, happ! That is also one big rock you got there too, did you build around it?! Neat bed there.

Will



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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 22, 2011
3:42 AM

Post #8442340

Happ, you've been on my mind and I've been missing you. Glad to see you back!

I hope ImaMes finds her way back, but boy, when you get busy, it sure is hard to get back in the swing of things.

Don't those crocus look nice! Love the rock and rabbit too! I am so ready to be able to put out a birdbath! I may anyway. I have one I set on the ground that's just waiting to break. Sooner or later it will. The robins sure would appreciate it and the rain will fill it for me later today. I'm gonna do it! LOL!

Pepper, did you get all your bulbs planted from earlier this year? They won't bloom yet tho will they?

Will, I hope the roots haven't all grown together. I have Oriental lily bulbs from a pot and I had no way to spearate them. I hope to dig them later this year and get them apart...after I Google how to best do it.

I'll bet most people were wondering where they could get a mask, LOL! I think we ought to be like China and Japan and wear them durring the infectious months.

I think I would try to break the largest rock in half, but no more, so it will help the second largest rock fit in too. It will make a nice tropical bed right there and feel so cooling walking past it in the summer. The solar lights are a nice touch.

It's gonna storm here this afternoon, possible red exclamation point thunderstorms with hail! I may be glad I don't have anything growing yet!

I don't think a single columbine seed grew on the porch. It's either old seed or I didn't start them soon enough. Oh well, I see columbine all over the flower beds so I'm not lacking :o)
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 22, 2011
6:08 PM

Post #8443841

Well, my truck broke down today on the way back from Walmart. I even got cussed by one guy. There I sat with my hood up, which is kinda the universal sign that you're broke down and this guy rolls by with his window down and cusses me! Of course, he wasn't stopped or anything, but what was he thinking? Maybe he had a bad day at work or something! It's not like I chose where to break down, I didn't say anything back or anything, he just cussed and ran! I'm not a violent person, I don't do road rage or anything. I just waited for the tow truck and me and my 15 bags of Garden Soil got on home, broke down truck and all, $67 lighter! I'll prolly have it towed to a garage and fixed, I can't go long without wheels! I broke down in a parking lot where people catch public transportation, they leave they're cars all day. That guy obviously didn't think that thru, if I was a vengeful person, (which I'm not), I could really damage his car during the day.

I planted up the rest of my seed purchase from Seedrack today, 30ish Hollyhock seeds, 12 Louisiana Palmetto seeds, 6 Dwarf Pomegranate seeds and 30ish California Fan Palm seeds. My next seed purchase from Seedrack should arrive tomorrow I think.

I never thought about the EE roots, billyp. I hope I don't have to leave them all together again dangit! Maybe they should be okay if I need to separate them since they're dormant? They don't have roots on them at the store! : )

I have ditchlilies from happ coming up again this year! See them in the photo?! They'll prolly get a permanent planted home this year, maybe around my proposed watergarden.

Columbine is a pretty flower, I want some now!

Yeah, they must be freaking out in Japan. They already wore masks alot from Avian Flu and other infectious ailments there. I hope a lesson is learned about this and natural disasters and nuclear power plants everywhere. Poor people of Japan, now they say 18,000 confirmed dead.

Hmmm.. I would break that rock, but I'm not sure if I can! Maybe a sledge hammer will do it. I took a wire brush and got all that dirt and mud off it today.

Somebody else can make the April thread, I messed up this one! I mean the March one, well, dangit, you're supposed to know what I mean, not what I say! lol : )

Will

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 23, 2011
4:22 AM

Post #8444471

Will, what a shame about your truck. I hope it's a cheap fix! Some people jusat gfeel the need to yell so they feel superior to others. I pity his wife.

Everyone is starting seeds, LOL!

I don't know much about EE's, but I think the roots will die back in the fall since they aren't perennial. The lilies are. I wonder if I will ever get them apart. I sure hope so.

The ditchlilies are hardy and looking good! I think they would look nice around the water garden.

I wondered how you might break it. Maybe a better solution would to be to use it somewhere else and go get smaller rocks to take it's place. It might just powder or splinter and lose it's charm.

The storms out of Missouri didn't amount to much as they finally passed thru us at 10:30 pm or so. I hope you guys didn't get any damage.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

March 23, 2011
12:40 PM

Post #8445459

Hi billyporter, good to hear from you. Just a little rain my way, I think farther north Mo got a little more thunderstorm than us. Now they are talking snow by Monday! My daffs are blooming...

Ahhh, Short, hate to tell you this but where ever you planted the ditch lilies first they will probably always be there...if you left one fraction of an inch of root, it will grow. I think you could put the roots in a blender and throw them on the ground and they would all root. One time I let a friend dig "all" the ditchlilies by a ditch. DH was kind of upset cause he said he liked them, told him not to worry they would be back...yep back that very same summer...
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 23, 2011
3:06 PM

Post #8445730

I got my daff and tulip bulbs planted and some of them have leaves coming up. I hope they bloom but if not that's ok. I have a bunch of smaller ones that I'm gonna give away as part of a trade I have going with someone on a different site.

We didn't get any rain last night here. Not one drop. lol. Fine by me!! I want my garden to dry out so I can plant my potatoes and onions before I plant tomatoes and peppers. Gonna try lemon cukes again too if I can find my pack of seeds.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 23, 2011
4:54 PM

Post #8445926

Haha happ! I am on to the wily ways of the Ditchlily! They haven't been out of that pot since I got them from you in Oct. 09'. I may be planting them in the ground soon tho! I have the well-wishes on them from my friend here, she loves Ditchlilies too! They'll prolly be out by the fishpond in the ground. I was out there digging on the fishpond some more last nite with my headlight on! I would really like to get that going soon. I have a few plants I'd like to get situated in there this Spring.

No rain here either, it looked like rain, especially today, it was so gloomy, but nary a drop! I was outside this afternoon raking and stuff! lol

Here is what the Crocuses look like here today, in the photo, they have looked like this for about 4 or 5 days.

Yeah, I'll prolly just get some smaller rocks to take it's place. I think I want that bigger one for a rock/desert garden I want to make with my glorious Prickly-Pears, Yuccas and evergreen Hens and Chicks. It is kinda charming I suppose, I like it too, how it's like a square almost, but still a rock, it doesn't have a molded look or anything like concrete does! If I could, just one bit of advice on cleaning off mud with a wire brush, from a limestone rock, its brushes off the orange/yellow part!

Come to think about it in hindsight, I don't think that cusser man saw me in the truck, I am not a big person and I don't think my head sticks far above the bucket seat-look of the seats from behind. Altho, I don't have bucket seats, it's a bench seat but they made it look like buckets from the rear-view. I was kinda slouched down waiting for the tow truck. After he was about 200 feet away he looks back and saw me as if to say, "oh boy, he's broke down"!
Thanks billyp, I hope its a cheap fix, sounds like a clutch cable either broke or came unattached. I think this may be the visit of all garage visits tho! I may also have them find out why it uses so much oil, and see what it takes to fix that too. I'd like to resell it someday and I can't sell somebody a lemon, like I was sold. I don't think with a clean conscience I could burn somebody just to get the bluebook value, which is what I want.

Pepper, on those seeds I may have over-looked the need of them to be cold stratified before they'll sprout, I didn't read all the papers that came with the seeds. I haven't found the papers to that shipment yet. I was unpleasantly surprised when I read the papers on my seeds that came in the mail today that 2 of the 6 need stratification first. I think I might know where I stashed the other papers in the trash outside, since it hasn't rained yet they may be okay..lol I wrongly assumed they didn't need stratification when they got to the customer.
Hehe.. I hate to say it, maybe you've heard it before, guys aren't too big on directions and whatnot...lol

Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 23, 2011
6:12 PM

Post #8446081

Dang it. lol. I don't do cold stratification. lol. I'll see what I can do with these. Wait, is it the palms or hollyhocks that need it?
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 23, 2011
6:59 PM

Post #8446225

Prolly the Hollyhocks. Not entirely sure yet, I haven't found the papers that came with them. If you've already planted the Hollyhocks, I'd say they might not sprout until after NEXT Winter.
I'll look more for those papers that came with them, I just threw them away yesterday I think. I doubt if the Palms do tho, they don't get much cold in California at any time. : )
I'll try to find that soon.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 23, 2011
7:01 PM

Post #8446231

We have snow coming this weekend. lol. They'll sprout. But I can wait before planting.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 24, 2011
4:44 AM

Post #8446703

Happ, I totally agree with the ''blender roots,'' LOL!! They will be where-ever they set foot!

Pepper, at least they put up leaves. That will feed the bulb for next year!

It's funny. I never thought a cucumber was ''healthy" other than having a lot of water. Turns out they are very good for you!

Will, fish pond it is, and I can picture them blooming when it's all finished :o) I hear you on trying to get going on it. If you keep chipping away you'll make a lot of progress.

I like the look of limestone too. It is it's own personality and nice to let plants drape over or butt up against it.

I forgot to ask where you got your Lava? That's pretty cool too!

I'd rather the guy just hollered at the truck too :o) It would be nice to find why it eats oil. It would run better for you if it didn't.

Poor done crocus :o(

Pepper, yep, the Hollyhocks. I hate finding out things like that too. Especially when I could have thrown them out in the Fall and hope they went thru winter like they should. On the other hand, my Hollyhocks won't quit seeding in the garden and I don't have room for them there!

It's colder today! But the air feels fresh and clean. I am ready to go get groceries tomorrow. The appetite has returned and I need spicy food!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 24, 2011
4:49 PM

Post #8448066

LOL. I can assure you the hollyhocks won't go where it doesn't belong. lol. My dad mows down anything in his path that doesn't belong. lol
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

March 24, 2011
5:37 PM

Post #8448145

I saw a bumper sticker the other day and it just cracked me up. Honest I am not a violent person, I don't even like violent movies, or gory movies but after driving downtown for 30+ years...well... the bumper sticker said:

Keep honking I am reloading...

For some odd ball reason that just cracks me up...
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 24, 2011
6:27 PM

Post #8448265

LOL!! My mom needs that one.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 24, 2011
8:18 PM

Post #8448518

Those lava rocks? Good question, I've often wondered that myself. They were here when she moved here in 1996, I asked her tonite. She says she thinks they were sold commonly many years ago in landscaping.

Here is that big limestone rock again in the photo, this time after I cleaned it and shuffled around some smaller rocks next to it in hopes of satisfying my phobia deal that it doesn't look right! Well, it still don't look right! lol In the next photo that rock prolly won't be there! I think I want it with Hens and Chicks growing by it.

Haha, "keep honking I am reloading"! That is funny! I always wanted to make my own bumper stickers, about 2 or 3 of them, something like "If you want a speeding ticket you'll have to go around" and "CAUTION: I stop for stop signs and red lights!"

Yeah, poor Crocus, poor, poor Crocus! Sorry, just had a Seinfeld moment there!

I just thought of something, I hope you guys like exclamation marks! lol

Thanks for the words of encouragement billyp, I do have a grand picture of this fishpond!

I sure would like to get that oil consumption fixed in the truck, it's a pain. Buying a jug of oil regularly to keep on hand isn't cheap. If I go on any kind of road trip thats over 5 miles or so I need to consult my oil situation and always doing that is a pain in the thing. I don't want to burn up the engine from just neglect!

C'mon over happ when you can and we can do the trading! Can I interest you in a Pine tree? It's a 6 y.o. Eastern White Pine (Pinus Strobus) or a Witch Hazel or Forsythia or a Chinese Wisteria plant?! One of each?

Billyp, can I interest you in some White Habanero seeds? They are plenty spicy, these are them. - http://seedrack.com/08.html Scroll about a third the way down to the "White Hot Habanero".
The paper on them doesn't say anything about stratifying, so I'm going to plant them up! Anybody else want some? The seed pkg. says 35 seeds and I don't have room for that many peppers.
Maybe the Uncle of your's in TX. would like to have some Pepper?!

I haven't found the papers that came with those seeds, Pepper. The seeds of those 2 that might need 60 or 90 days of around 40° F cold is the Hollyhocks.

Will

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 25, 2011
3:43 AM

Post #8448763

Pepper, LOL! What are we going to do with your Dad?

Happ, that cracked me up and I am all of the above too, ROTFL!!

Pepper, ROTFL!! What are we going to do with your Mom?

Will, that's pretty nice to just end up with the Lave rocks. They would look good with a really bright color planted next to them!

LOL, those are good bumper stickers too!

Thanks, but I have more garden seeds right now than I have room to plant. I also got free peppers and tomatoes with an order, LOL!

Till you paint the wall and get things planted, the rocks won't look right. It will turn out ok in the end. The rock cleaned up nice and has a nice diamond shape to it.

Chance of snow today. As I said, I'm glad I don't have much up yet. The tulips are a few iches tall and my crocus still has life left in it. The fruit trees aren't budded and I wonder if I'm ever going to get apples. We have bees.

I was watching a show about bees on TV, about how a whole hive just leaves and dies. Very sad and scarey. They're trucking bees all over to pollinate blueberry bushes, farms, etc.

I hope the situation reverses itself!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 25, 2011
5:05 PM

Post #8450211

Will, I'll take some of those seeds. My uncle will like them and a coworker also likes hot stuff and loves to garden also. He'll get a few for his birthday that's coming up. lol

That rock looks fine so leave it alone. lol. YOu should make that a cactus and succelent bed. Hen and chicks, hardy cactus, tall sedums, etc. And move the lava rocks around and that big rock so that it looks more random inside the bed. That will make it look a bit better. lol

Oh and I hope you all are prepared for SNOW!!! 3 to 5 inches around here. More or less. lol. Depends on who you listen too.

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not2simple
Kansas City, MO
(Zone 5b)

March 25, 2011
7:26 PM

Post #8450528

Snow is a bad four letter word! I am so ready to play in the dirt, discover muscles that I had forgotten I had, and feel the callouses on my hands. Then I will impatiently wait for all that is sown to grow and hopefully become bountiful. For now I am trying to find a trellis strong enough to handle cucumbers growing up it (the one that I have used for the last couple of years was pulled apart last year by the vines). Maybe I can ziptie or wire it back together for one more year.

Hope everyone is careful this weekend.
Debbie
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 25, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8450534

Debbie, I've tried zip ties, they didn't last a summer in the sun. Hope this helps.
not2simple
Kansas City, MO
(Zone 5b)

March 25, 2011
7:41 PM

Post #8450549

Thanks cathy4, that is what I was afraid of. I will have to figure something different. This was an arch that Dollar General sold several years ago. Picking the cukes was so easy and the kiddies loved to help, plus I could grow lots of them in a small space. Oh well, back to the thinking place!
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 25, 2011
7:52 PM

Post #8450569

I grow cukes on a trellis, too. It is worth buying a good metal one that will last years. I bought mine at Home Depot for about $10.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 25, 2011
8:05 PM

Post #8450582

Ok, Pepper, I'll send a few seeds you're way. They should make a fine Birthday present for a Texan! I remember when I lived there, they had Jalapenos for sale on the counters of convenience stores, I usually got one to go! Habaneros ought to fit right in!

Yeah, I finally found a decent use for the lava rocks. I was starting to think we were stuck with them. They mighta looked okay in the 70's, but I couldn't think of anything to do with them now, until recently! Oh, I agree, I want to get some bright red (and maybe yellow) Cannas growing by them.

Ok billyp.. but you'll wish you had a "White Hot Habanero" for you're Salsa..lol!

Yeah, that wall painted and stuff will really make the backyard and that space look 100 times better.

Prepared for snow?! Bleck! I want to be done with Winter! At least it won't last long and it will be slushy maybe.
Yeah, depends on which channel you watch is what kind of forecast you'll get! They say above I-70 will get this and below I-70 will get this and who really knows!
All I know is yuck!!

Here is a red lily that I got from Pepper in Oct. 09', it seems to be a little bigger this year.

Good idea Pepper. I'll try that with the rocks, I really want that area to work out, my friend here is skeptical of a "tropical spot"!
I have 2 of those, I have the Hens and Chicks and the hardy cactus, I'm gonna do that cactus and succulent bed.

I have a cheap, flimsy metal tubed trellis from Harbor Freight Tools for $5.99. It definitely wouldn't retain the upright position with Cucumbers. It barely stays in the ground with a breeze!

The oil situation reversing itself? I hope so too. I remember shortly after I bot that truck, I was doing some work for the guy I bot it from. He asked me, "how's the truck running?". He got burned too I think, I'm not sure that he even knew it used oil. Anyway, I told him what I had just found out. I wasn't nasty or anything, but I told him it will use all the oil up in about 3 weeks. His wife was right there. At least I don't think I would knowingly ask that theoretically, in the presence of my wife (if I had a wife) if I knew it had a leak like it does. I don't know for sure if he knew the engine was nearly shot. He made a BIG point in retrospect of making sure I knew and that it said on the Bill Of Sale that it's "as is", which is fine, but I wouldn't have bot it if I knew the oil situation was that bad. I made a decent cash offer on a used car a couple weeks ago and they wouldn't do it because I want to have it looked at first by a mechanic..hello! I'm thinking they'd rather get another offer from somebody else who is willing to get burned! If they DO call back now, I'm gonna tell them I came to my senses about that car and I don't want it.
My Grandfather (the Cheeseman) says it just needs rings. I don't know, but I may be finding out soon if the cheeseman is right.

I tell you, if it isn't sewage, worms and beady-eyed lizards IN the house, its engine repairs and snow outside the house! For those of you that don't know, I am a home health care worker and I live with the disabled patient. She is my friend's heres Mother. The Mother is a nice lady, she has Parkinsons and dementia. She just called me in her room again a few minutes ago to tell me the room is filling up with water and sewage. We are nice to her and everything, we treat her good. I'm not looking forward to being elderly, it could happen to anybody.

Will

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not2simple
Kansas City, MO
(Zone 5b)

March 25, 2011
8:39 PM

Post #8450627

The arch that I had needed a fence post on each side to stay upright shortleaf. Poor thing but it did its job.



billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 26, 2011
3:43 AM

Post #8450818

Pepper, great minds think alike! I too thought if the big rock was more in the bed... plants separating the lava rocks... I'm still debating on what color to paint the wall, LOL!

Yep Will, the bed has plenty of potential. Isn't that the Tropical bed you were planning?

Hi Debbie, I'm hoping to find a big pair of shorts to start Spring in, LOL!

I put my cukes on 4' tall rabbit fence with metal stakes. That's pretty permanent and sturdy.

I know they suggest growing them with corn, but have you ever tried to pick things that grow in the corn, or try to pick corn with things growing in the rows? LOL!

The arch sounds really neat!

Will, I make terrible salsa! Seriously! I don't even make it fresh!

When she walks back there, and there's an illusion of coolness... It will work. Just put a small chair out there for a restful look.

Never back down from wanting a mechanic to look it over!!! My sister in law will test drive them directly to one! Listen to your Grandfather! Only you can let someone take advantage of you, and you aren't gullible. They do know you're nice and that's what they will work on. Walk away! Car lots have used cars too, with a warrenty, and you can drive them.

Poor old woman. I hope the thoughts don't last very long for her, even tho they recur. What an elderly nightmare.

Awww, look at that lily!

March is almost gone already! I can't believe how much I missed by being sick all the time. I will be so glad to be able to walk out of the house without a coat!


Justgrowin
Adrian, MO

March 26, 2011
11:29 AM

Post #8451484

HI all: I finally found time to get back here and see what everyone is doing. It sounds like you are in the same boat with me--ready for spring. Right now it is raining, windy and cold. I'm worried about my young plants in the greenhouse and high tunnel, and the ones that have broken dormancy. I have them covered and can heat the little greenhouse but high tunnel is unheated. I'm thinking about running several space heaters in it, but it is 12 ft tall so don't know that it will do much good. But even if it brings temps up a few degrees it can make a world of difference sometimes.
How's everyone's veggie seeds coming along? I've got tomato and sweet bell peppers, plus some Hungarian wax and Thai Dragon King (I think that's the right name). Tomatoes are about 8" tall and will be ready to go in the ground in a couple of weeks. And I've got a lot other plants that are looking good. I wish I had more time for my own yard and garden right now, it's so satisfying and relaxing, but when you are trying to do a business it can get stressful because you have time and money invested in it. I like the idea of a trellis or arch for cukes, and growing vertical. Bought the new copy of Square Foot gardening and it's looking better all the time. Our soil is such hardpacked clay nothing breaks it up. Well hope everyone is well and over the flu.
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 26, 2011
4:10 PM

Post #8451938

I'm ready for spring, but it is snowing heavy right now, at least 2 wet inches on the ground and more predicted. Since the weather is so cold for the next week, I'm going to start some more broccoli. There are about 100 tomato plants, peppers, petunias, zinnias, coleus, marigolds, impatiens, baby's breath, alyssum, lots of different herbs, and other things I can't think of right now out in the little GH. If the power goes out, well, I don't want to think about it.
not2simple
Kansas City, MO
(Zone 5b)

March 26, 2011
5:31 PM

Post #8452142

Hi billyporter, After looking around on the internet, I have decided to build my own (with DH help of course). Using a trellis would work but not the way an arch does. I am looking for a picture of it. I found it!! This was part of my garden area last year.

Justgrowin, we are hoping to get a high tunnel finished this summer. We have the beds in place, now to get the time to get the fence posts driven...so much to do and never enough time! Wishing you luck in your business! My little plants are not near that big but they are growing and I just keep on talking to them.

cathy4, KC missed out on a lot of the snow. By the way the weather maps looked snow was everywhere except here. The warmer weather can come back at anytime, I would not complain.

This year we going to try to grow potatoes in containers. Been reading up on it and looks like it is possible and saves lots of space. We sill see.

Everyone be careful out there.
Debbie

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 26, 2011
5:35 PM

Post #8452147

I have a piece of heavy duty fencing that I used last year for my cukes. It's like hog fencing. Very strong and doesn't flex much. Get some fence posts to put on either side, some of those plastic ties and tie it to a post. It will work like a charm. I grew mine upright but you can angle it too. Look in Gardening Supply's catalog or website for ideas and make a homemade version.

Well, snow didn't amount to anything here. Started out with a whimper, got going pretty good and maybe an hour or so later it was done. Weather liars can't tell weather anymore!! My county was one of those under the winter advisory for today too. Grrr... lol

Will, the lily is looking good!!
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

March 27, 2011
1:03 PM

Post #8453713

Oh good for you not2, I was going to tell you if you go to home depot or a car parts place they have wire ties that will last forever. DH uses them all the time and I steal them from him all the time. rofl. Looks like you are going to have some great trellis for growing...which is probably better to go ahead and just do it...

We are all ready for spring for sure.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 27, 2011
8:01 PM

Post #8454736

I am ready for Spring too! Oh, please don't paint it pink or yellow billyp!! It should prolly be white to match the rest of the foundation, I kinda already got the paint for it. I only had 2 choices,
gray and white for concrete paint.
Yeah, thats the tropical bed I'm planning, billyp. I'm open to suggestions. I'm not married to the idea of the limestone rock border. Think it would look better with just regular landscape edging?
Could those plastic ties do the same thing? I already have some cheap plastic ties in my arsenal of cheap whatnots. Heres quite a set of the plastic ones. - https://shop.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=plastic+ties
Yeah, they are looking to dupe somebody on that car, I'm pretty sure. Not only did they not want to agree to it being looked at by a mechanic, but when "I" was going to test drive it, he stayed in the driver's seat (after maneuvering it out) and drove it. The shifting of it manually might've given away that the gears were messed up. Car lots seem to really be after profit, they're prices are usually so high to start with, they will just be too far from reality. I am discouraged by car lots because re-selling anything from a car lot is going to be a loss because they sell on a whole different starting point from the Kelly Blue Book values, they use "suggested retail value". It is always much higher than "private party value" - http://www.kbb.com/used-cars/buick/lacrosse/2009 (that car was just an example, I could never afford a 2009 Buick LaCrosse..lol), which is much more pallatable to an individual like me.
I am only interested in paying the total amount of a vehicle as opposed to a payment plan type deal. I don't want to have car payments and full coverage insurance. Not to discount the newer car, I think having a nice, reliable car is a good choice many times. Its just a matter of preference, I don't really need all the niceness and reliability (and commitment..lol) of a newer car right now. I do admit that having a car that will always start and run is nice! If I had an income where a newer car was less of a financial burden, I'd be all for it.

Thanks Pepper, that Red Lily is growing nicely!

This late afternoon and evening, the snow was coming down good, but not much of it stuck for long. Here it is in the photo when I stopped at my Grandparents house to play Chess again tonite.

Will



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billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 28, 2011
5:54 AM

Post #8455234

Justgrowing, I'm hoping for the best for your plants. It would be hard to lose them now. The weather is so close to warming up. I hope your business flourishes!

I've started nothing yet. I can't really set tomatoes out till June, and even then it's cold enough that they just sit there. The peppers I will start a bit earlier because I can't wait for the first blossoms on them. They take so long to get to eating size!!

I keep intending to do Square Foot gardening, especially for radish and turnips, etc. and have only actually gotten the spinich in tight rows. The rest, I forget and start running that hoe in a line. Later I'm doing a Homer Simpson DOH!

The Square Foot guy used to have a show on TV like Crockett's Victory Garden. That's my garden Bible! They really ruined Home and Garden TV. None of those shows are on anymore. Crocketts was ruined right after Bob Thompson(?) was hired. I could just cry!!

Cathy4, I have broccoli and cabbage seed this year. Eeek, I better get my seeds out and look again. It might need to be started sooner than I think!

You really have a lot of things started! I hope they all do well!

Debbie, nice garden area! I love the large raised bed going in! I think that's the way to go sometimes and would like to do that in my garden. The narrowness sure would make weeding or picking from both sides easier. Plus, making exellent dirt to plant in!! I have a DH too, hmmm...

Potatoes in containers is the talk now. I still do mine in the ground, but sure would like to try covering them with straw! Harvest would be a breeze. I don't have a big garden area or much more sunny areas to even add. Dang this town living!

Pepper, the hog fence is a treasure! My Uncle even laid small sections on the ground and let his tomatoes arch over it.

The weather liars are in full force here. That's why I've decidsed we are going to be dry this year. So far we've had no snow or rain that we were to get. I got pretty spoiled with timely Spring rains and grass that never got crunchy.

Happ, after being sick and missing the 70* weather we had, I am SOOO ready for Spring!!

Will, I actually pictured a very soft yellow, but I agree, white to match the rest. It's not going to be planted year round. LOL!

Give the rocks a try. Let the plant's cover them some, or accent them. If you don't like it there's always time for change. It will give you more ideas when things are planted and getting size on them.

We use the zip ties and like them. It's what we tie the Honeysuckle to the trellis with and use to tie and store the Christmas lights.

Car lots are high, but try to find an honest person who is trying to unload a car. The guy driving? Nope! Iwould have walked away right then! If your truck looks to be in good shape, brakes, etc, not the upholstry, try haggling with the dealers. Sometimes they will come down. The salesman doesn't care what you pay. They care about making a sale. If you ask a reasonable price not too far from what they offer, well, that's better than the cheats on the side of the road.

Besides, the value of any car drops considerably the minute you drive it off the lot.

I understand your situation and needs on buying a car tho. I hope you can find someone honest.

I'll bet your grandparents really look forward to your visits. Good for you for having such a wonderful time with them!!

I'm thinking you got a bit of your sense of humor from Grandpa :o)

The snow looks like a heavy, LOL!

We are promised sunshine today! I really need to get out and tend to the iris. I just know the borers are already chomping their way into my leaves!

I have tulips slowly appearing and sure can't wait to see some blooms. Even the grape hyacinthis just greenery. Wah! I need color!



pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 28, 2011
5:17 PM

Post #8456929

Woke up to white grass this morning but by 9am it was all melted. I would love for it to dry out so I could get my cooler season stuff started. My potatoes and onions are down in the basement waiting to be planted and I have radish seeds to throw out too.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 29, 2011
6:20 AM

Post #8457930

Pepper, I wonder if this is what March is really supposed to be like. We get so used to April being the cold wet month and March has kite flying days. I think I'd rather the months corrected themselves and March stayed chillier.
Justgrowin
Adrian, MO

March 29, 2011
6:42 AM

Post #8457978

Another gloomy day! My tomatoes are getting too lanky, I don't have enough grow light space for everything and natural sunlight is so much better! i'm transplanting them into deeper grow bags but they really need that sun! I think the perennials have made it okay, I covered them all the row cover cloth and they seemed to like it. If the weather forecasters are right two more days of chilly nights and it should be good to go.
We've had the flu at our house so have been running behind on things. And of course time out for anniversary and family birthdays. In the rush of Spring I have to remember what is really important.
Shortleaf, good luck on getting a car I know that must be very frustrating.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 29, 2011
4:28 PM

Post #8459011

Heres some color in the photo below, Daffodils and Hyacinths in all they're glory!
Thanks Sally, I do have kinda a dry sense of humor. Yeah, Grandpa is a humorous sort too! A soft yellow eh? Not a bad color I suppose and tropical settings are about the color I agree.

Oh, the 70° weather will be back, maybe this weekend!

Thanks Justgrowin, I'm still looking for a used car! Oh boy, I hope I don't have to dicker with a car salesperson, that means I'm buying at a car lot! A friend was car salesman of the year years ago at this one new and used dealership here on the "Miracle Mile" in Independence, MO. A good salesperson can make over 50k a year if they're good, like my friend was. He went on to become a mortgage broker and made over 100k a year, (he said he was huge at the time), and then he became unemployed shortly thereafter...lol Actually, it wasn't so funny when he lost his house, but you know what they say, "laughter is the best medicine"! Oh, I wouldn't get much if I were to trade in the truck on a carlot deal, maybe 300 dollars. It's not in very good shape up close.

I was looking at my seed plantings a while ago. I might have a Calif. Fan Palm tree coming up!

Pepper, I have the Habanero seeds in an envelope for you and addressed and everything, but I was hoping it'd warm up a little before I mailed them.

I think they look forward to my visits too. I know my Grandpa does, he loves to play Chess, I think my Grandma gets weary of the hours we play it most of the time. I've played him so much and lost that now I'm getting to where I can give him a little trouble sometimes in that game. I've learned so many good moves, that he used on me, that it has been helping for things to sometimes swing my way! Overall, he still has the winning record, like his 75 to my 55 or somewhere thereabouts.

I'd like to do the big garden thing in the backyard. I asked my friend here for her opinion on it. I'm liking a chainlink fenced in garden about 12 x 12.

Has anybody heard of the "natural daylight" bulbs that GE and the makers are hawking now? I was wondering does that mean they are growlights? I know the color spectrum of a growlight is suitable for plants, I wonder if they're new bulbs that say, "natural daylight" have that color spectrum? I looked on the package at The Home Depot, the packages don't say.

I forgot to say that on that "tropical spot" that I plan that I want to cover that weed fabric with about a 4" layer of black mulch.

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 29, 2011
5:31 PM

Post #8459151

I think those bulbs are supposed to be brighter than the current set of CFL lights. They are supposed to more closely resemble daylight.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 30, 2011
4:06 AM

Post #8459826

Justgrowin, do you pinch off the lower leaves so you can plant them even deeper? That's a good solution for when they start to get too tall. I do that to the green peppers too.

I hope the flu is done at your place. That really knocks you back doesn't it? I hear you on getting busy too.

Will, it would be nice if things could be planted year round, but you're right to stick with the white.

Well, 300.00 is more than you have now, and it's old enough that by the time you do brakes, plugs etc. you have nickle and dimed yourself to death. But since you have time, you can weigh your options.

The win/loss isn't too far apart now, LOL! I imagine it took a while to even win a first game with him :o)

12 by 12 really isn't very big. What are you planning on planting? If you stake the tomatoes you will gain room, and if you go with the square foot gardening you could pack in the plants.

Don't bother with the fancy lights. It's the lumens you want to look for and cheap shop lights work just fine!

Nice daffs and hyacinths!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

March 30, 2011
9:58 AM

Post #8460412

I know I have talked like a pauper before, but I have been saving my pennies for a car. I might have made only $8.65 an hour (22 hours every 2 weeks) but I have way more than $300 saved up (but not enuff worth kidnapping me for, and I know you're in a gang up there in IA., billyp)! I agree tho, it's 300 more dollars and thats what separates us from the animals, (Seinfeld says) WE don't turn down money! lol

No, the win/loss isn't that far apart anymore. I told him I am gaining on him! My Mom and my friend here say its dumb to keep track like I do, but I like it and my Grandpa likes it. Oh, he wants a copy of it and is always looking at it. This is a screenshot of the latest figures I been keeping! I go by my middle name to family people. For all you stalkers out there, my last name is Smith! lol

Thanks billyp, the daffs and hyacinths are real troopers, its a good thing that they bloom before the leaves get on the trees because there is NO sun there when the trees are in leaf..lol
My truck isn't there anymore, I had it towed to a garage to be fixed yesterday.

I wonder why they even sell plant flourescent bulbs at Walmart then? Regular shop lites are much cheaper, maybe plant bulbs last longer too? I have a shoplite with 2 plant bulbs in it that I purchased new in 2004 and I've never changed a bulb or a ballast in it. Much of the time it is on 24 hours a day, like now, it's been on since Oct. In it's heyday there is like 30 plants under it! I've been putting many of them outside now, I'm pretty sure they can easily take the temps. now.

Oh, the flu sucks. I'm glad I have went the Winter without it.

Will

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Justgrowin
Adrian, MO

March 30, 2011
6:13 PM

Post #8461487

That's great that you spend all that time with your Grandpa, I'm sure he really enjoys it. My husband and I play chess sometimes in the winter. His nephew is really good and will be playing in the Kansas State Tournament. He was Kansas State champion one year. No, I never play him, wouldn't even try. He can stand in another room and call out the moves, and hubby tells him what he's moving, and he will still win.

Potted up more Tomato plants putting them in deeper than they were. While I was doing this I was trying to remember which ones are coreless, Better Boy or Big Boy? I think it's Better Boy. People always ask me that and I can't remember any better than they do! Has anyone grown Applause? They are supposed to be early ones. They plants are huge already.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

March 31, 2011
4:38 AM

Post #8462091

Will, I think it's great that you are able to save any money. I hear you on wanting to spend what you have wisely. My brother keeps getting burnt on the cars he buys off the street. These people are selling them for a reason. They aren't good enough to trade in. So, that's where I'm coming from.

Gang, ROTFL!! The only available member I have to help is my SIL and she can't hardly walk. You'll have to come down here and walk real cose to us before we can get your money!!

I think it's cool to keep track of your games. It looks like you have both skunked each other at different times :o)

They sell plant bulbs because there are always those that think that's what it takes. I too bought a stand and it came with the plant bulbs. I replace them now with high lumen shop lights, (after they burned out.) They now have really slender bulbs and they don't get so hot. I still need to get the lights almost on the leaves to keep them from getting leggy.

Justgrowin, quite the chess players! I tried to learn and couldn't. I'm more a solitare person anyway. I was never lucky in cards, so I'll never gamble.

I'm trying new tomatoes this year, but havent tried Applause. I did get Better Boy seed. It's been years since I've had it and way back then, I used to just buy the plants already started. I'll have 11 varieties to try, one being free seed and one being a cherry.

Oooh, I'm making myself drool!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

March 31, 2011
7:40 PM

Post #8463920

I just buy my plants from Powell Gardens usually. But since I might be visiting a peony farm that weekend, I will just get them from work. lol

Does anyone know the name of the peony farm that is over on Bannister and if they have a website? A friend of mine is helping another friend landscape his yard and he wants lots of peonies (like 15 of them) but for a good price. The place on Bannister supposedly is having their sale the first weekend of May.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

April 1, 2011
11:13 AM

Post #8465052

New April thread!!

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1169226/

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