Sally, what is Spinosad? Sorry for your daily dose lol.
Holly, I was really on patrol for them all last summer and eliminating all I could find throughout season. Like that the article above gives me some more clues to plants they like and habits, etc. I'm allergic to the smell... It's enough to keep them out of doors and really feel for those who defend fruit and field and of course our food supply. Wonder what the conference in Sheppardstown will bring to light this week? Hopefully we can get some kind of report. from the conference Doc so kindly posted in our events thread.
Speaking of that thread, if you put some soapy water in the tank of a wet/dry vac the SBs will drown but other wise they can and will crawl out. Best to kill them before sending to the land fill where they may live to see another day.
On that same note, they can survive at least 4 days of freezing temps as they make their own antifreeze...
Spinosad is a new insecticide developed from soil organisms- or something vaguely like that. Haven't read it myself but got the tip from another thread, for use against leaf miners. I don't know if its effective for stink bugs. I bought it in 'Captain Jack's Dead Bug" spray at AA Farmers Co op. Glen Burnie
Weather permitting, greenthumb and I plan to go to WV to the talk this week. They got in our vehicles, in the house, just everywhere. I found a few crawling around slowly this week and put them out in the snow. Didn't realize they make their own antifreeze. I'm sure we'll learn some good stuff this week and will report back.
Posted by Greenthumb:
I realize that this is not particularly convenient in time or location for most (myself included), but The Potomac Valley Audubon Society and the (US Fish & Wildlife) National Conservation Training Center are co-sponsoring a presentation about the Brown Marmorated Stink Bug at 7:00 PM the evening of Wednesday, February 9.
"Admission is free and anyone is welcome to attend.
The presenter will be Dr. Tracy Leskey, entomologist at the U.S. Department of
Agriculture's Appalachian Fruit Research Station in Kearneysville.
Dr. Leskey and her colleagues at the Research Station are in the forefront of
research into the Brown Marmorated Stink Bug, and she co-chairs a special USDA
working group that is trying to find ways to respond to the problems the insect
The HCTC is about 5 miles outside of Sheperdstown, WV
Gosh youse guys...I have been missing all the talk on these boogers. We have them in Central Virginia too. I am finding at least one to two a day. John and I have just completed a two or three week long process of cleaning and organizing our storage building. Some of you have heard me complaining of having mice. I didn't mention the gazillions of stink bugs we encountered. Yep, they must make their own antifreeze, because we thought we would be finding frozen and dead stink bugs, but nooooo, those suckers were all alive and well.
I began by picking them up with a tissue and throwing out the back door. Some of the boxes I had to go through had a dozen or so of them and I had to come up with another way to dispose of them than opening a back door every few minutes. I began flushing them. I got stunk up a time or two also. I now read and should have figured beforehand that the ones I took time to pick up with tissues and throw outside, most likely made it back inside of the warm house before sundown. AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGG
So, I read the report that greenthumb wrote of the seminar attended. I have the same comment as most of the seminar attendees...it is worse than I thought.
We had hundreds of them in church, and of course the ceilings and stained glass windows are so high that one cannot possibly reach all of them, even with multiple pool cleaning poles duck taped together as an extension rod on the vacuum cleaner. Sometimes they still fly through the air and land on people during the Scripture readings, and of course then there is much distraction in the pews as everyone tries to get out of their way.
Our kitty went after one at home, managed to knock it to the floor, sniffed it, and shook her paws like she was too disgusted for words
Suddenly the lady bugs parading on the sun-warmed windows don't seem nearly so bad.
As our weather warms up the BMSBs that sought shelter in our homes, buildings and churches will begin to stir and make forays outside looking for food and places to breed and lay eggs. Now is the best time to eliminate as many of the overwintering adults as possible before they breed.
If the numbers I've read are correct, each "annoying" stink bug eliminated now means up to 64 MILLION less this fall. (400 eggs x 2 - 3 generations or more each season.)
ALL HANDS ON DECK!!!
As we move out into our gardens and outdoor environs let's be prepared to deal with any SBs we encounter, between pots, under tarps, and have a container of soapy water with us when we do..
I have found a lot of them in between my stacked pots last year. I brought in a stack of them to start seedlings in and had them everywhere. I am much more careful before bringing in things from the garage now.
Sally, thanks for stepping up and ridding our county of the potential of 128 MILLON or more BMSB per day! I'm sure our local farmers and gardeners would thank you, too.
Stink bugs are strong fliers and can travel many miles on their own. They are not just hitch hikers. Storms and winds can carry them and if they are not happy where they are, they will keep moving!
Rutgers University Ag Extension Service has set up a nationwide monitering and tracking program. Any one who finds a BMSB is asked to send one to them for DNA analysis and study . Here is a link to their site
As I sit here with most windows open and my back door open completely, I wonder how many of those suckers will find their way in or out today. It is supposed to be 70 degrees here today so I suspect many a sleepy bug will begin stirring today.
Thank you so much Judy for the links you provided us. I read the article about trying to prevent them from taking over the house. I will speak with John later and see if he wants to purchase something to spray or sprinkle around. I wasn't aware of any products until now that helped with them. That at least gives me a bit of hope.
I am so sick of these things. I kind of liked the idea that the gentleman from NJ has offered using the cardboard and wooden slats to form a trap for them. Gonna see about getting one or actually several of those built to place around in most highly infested areas.
There is one good thing at least about all of this. I am not alone in my misery. Keep the info coming, as far as I am concerned, the only good stink bug is a dead one.
Oh yeah, I may have to get my newly acquired bright blue cane and take a trip around the back yard at least. I suppose I have to get up from this machine first though. hahaha I have a list of inside chores but do think I will get out in the air for a bit. Actually all week has been and is supposed to be great this week. Bring it on!!! Think Spring!!!
Any more increased activity with the warmer temps this week?
Remember to not close up and seal the entry points to your home until AFTER the SBs have left the premises in May/June.
Pam, sounds like you and your fellow worshippers have gone to extraordinary lengths to keep your services as peaceful as possible. What else has your congregation tried? Is the church heated all during the week or only on Sundays. We'll be glad to help in any way we can, or just commisserate. Darn irreverant bugs.
I have been printing out a lot of these links on Stink Bugs.
Many of them already hang in the Insect Products bay at my HD.
I hung them there last summer.
Now--I want to ask my Mgr. or garden Supervisor IF I could actually put
up a cork board and attach all this information to it for all the customers
to read. Of course--it will be attached in some permanent way to this board...
Thank you all that have provided these links...Gita
They were out if full force yesterday with the warmer temp. Our house was in the 80's yesterday with the warmer temps outside and the sun streaming in the house got really warm. We opened up the sliding doors and windows and really enjoyed the fresh air. Probably found a doz or so SB crawling on the screens and windows.
Hi folks my name is Andy.. I invented some stink bug traps that work very well in and around the home.. I also designed some with the farmers in mind and would like to hear from you about your infestation.. We will be looking to test several powerful field units in couple months.. I know everyone is all about chemicals and pesticides but so far they have proven not to be effective so maybe its time to try another approach .. See us at www.stinkbugtrapsonline.com Im a workohaulic and have extended hours so call anytime up to midnight :-) Thanks!! Andy (717) 449 - 3015
Holly, maybe you and Ric could be one of the field test sites he is looking for... He seems to get that SBs are not just nuisance pests but like Greenthumbs report a serious threat to our food supply.. Let us know what you find out.
Such an interesting topic to me. Come on July 2011!!!
Didn't see as many of the suckers as I thought we might with the warm day yesterday. John has found two this morning already. Last night before going to bed I had the overhead light on above my kitchen sink. I have a small garden window full of plants directly in front of the sink. I saw two of the bugs clinging to plants and promptly disposed of them via the toilet.
Reading the reason why Andy Straub invented the sb trap has been a fear of mine since these bugs have come on the scene...biting in to one that has made it way to my dinner plate would most likely send me to psyche hospital for a short visit. I am very careful to keep food covered in the kitchen where we usually keep at least one light burning at all times and yes, light and warmth do attract them.
Last fall when they first began coming indoors my cleaning lady moved a large mirror on my dining room wall which is where a french door is located that we leave propped opened on nice days. Behind this mirror was over twenty bugs. Sickening for sure. I made sure she then went behind every frame on every wall to look for them. What a round up.
Anyway, thanks Judy for the links to the trap page. I will keep it in mind.
Count yourself very lucky Gita. My older son lives about twenty miles from us and his area hasn't been hit yet. He was cleaning out his storage shed this weekend and found two. No fair!!!!! Anyway, I told him to be ready that by summer I am sure they have migrated the twenty miles and his area will probably be in the same shape our area has been in. Gita, screens on doors don't last very long here with all the pups who are in and out all day long. We gave up screening the back door which is the one we mainly keep open.
We live in the middle of a cow pasture. Whenever it is warm weather and the cows visit as low as we are, they bring along flies. I forget that I hate an annoying fly as much as I hate a stink bug. I was promised a new back door last year and didn't get it. Maybe we will go all out when finally purchasing it and getting a strong and dog proof hopefully screen along with it.
John has a question for those of you dealing with sb. Do you all freak out the way I do and yell there is a stupid stink bug again, hurry, hurry get him? hahaha I suppose I am quite funny but some things I am obsessive over and stink bug is one of them.
I will be more vigilant come spring/summer.
Honestly--last season I saw a few on my Dtura blooms. That's it!
now--these Daturas are in my side bed right below my BR windows--a ways up.
They are in a shabby shape...rattle and all that.. Need caulking on the outside.
Too high for me to get to. Don't know that I would even try if they were lower.
Talking of windows--I hardly ever open mine as I have central a/c.
If it is a cool day--I may open to the screen in the storm door--
and maybe my one BR window. Can't really get to any others...
As to John's question: Do I freak out when I see a bug? NO! Not the "freak out" type...
May have a soapy water container nearby as I work in the yard this season...
Just HAVE TO clean out my cluttered shed this year. Who knows what i will find there?
You ex had good taste Gita...I love the shed. Your plants sitting in front of it are beautiful too. I took pics of the outside and inside of my newly organized shed the other day. I posted them on a clean and clutter thread but will share them here also. Just a note, in front of the shed are the dump remains from John's tossing efforts. Two days after I snapped the picture, he sent the trash pile away. I also noticed in the picture that to the right of the shed there is a huge tree trunk and a stack of cinder blocks that he also moved after the pic was taken. He moved the trunk, cut it up for fire wood and used the cinder blocks to build number three compost bin in that spot. He has really been hard at it recently.
My shed may look neat--but it has very little verticak walls
to put shelves on. That's a big minus...
Besides--it is onlt 8'x12' in area. Stuffed full to the gills--
mostly with empty pots of all kinds..
The lawn chairs hang from the ceiling.
Lots of stuff in there--it is a miracle!
Yep, feeling pretty good about it all. Really now we are down to the bookcases in the plant room needing my attention and the closet in the same room. Most of the action in there will have to wait a bit until the houseplants are on their summer home, the screen porch before moving around easily in there will be possible. Before the shed was cleaned and organized there was no place to put the extra contents of the plant room, but now they can safely be stored out there now that there is sufficient space.
I suppose that I have found the de-cluttering process to be a case of a step forward and two back at times. There have been days and even weeks when it looked upside down in here as we emptied and repacked areas.
You folks attending the seed swap this weekend have a great time. We hope to see you all when a plant swap is planned later on.
Just when the weather warms up and you think it's safe to finally clear out winter's air with a touch of spring , there is the stink bug. When I opened the sash in the bathroom and wen to raise the storm window to get that cross breeze action, I noticed two dead stink bugs belly up. I grabbed a bit of Charmin to quick flush them when I noticed a twitching leg in a shaft of sunlight spotlighting one of them...sure enough, almost over-wintered til I came along.!(And, where were they beforelast week's spotting? Anyhow, I now have 38 to do some tests with. Right now they are in a zip lock bag in my freezer for at least two weeks to see how many days of freezing temps are necessary to do them in...
News on Tv tonite about USDA research being conducted in Delawre with a wasp that is a natural predator in Asia, possibly available by 2013. In the mean time I will step up in my role as predator pro tem.
Thanks Judy - interesting reading. Dang, I hate those critters. To me the only good stink bug is a dead one. I don't even particularly like finding dead ones either.
I was given a tad bit of hope by hearing that they are not feeding during the winter and that flying will use all their energy and thus they die. We are down to seeing only about one every couple of days now. Most of the ones we are finding are feeding on my houseplants though now that I think about it.
Let's hope that the deterrants that are being discussed will make the market place before 2013 like the articles project. Darn critters!!!
was lurking around dg today and ran across this interesting thread. i don't have these particular bugs as of yet but i do have other stink bugs, some good and some bad. i'll pass along my secret weapon (as i've probably done on countless other threads) for those who may not know about it.
first, let me say a few good things about Spinosad. i love it and use it for several difficult pests, including any kind of un-welcomed caterpillar, worm and grasshopper. i often use it in place of Bt (which works pretty much the same, just not on the variety of pests). i buy mine under the brand name of Ferti-lome Bagworm, Leafminer Spray. the active ingredient is Spinosad and is a cost effective way to buy. i get mine at Ace Hardware. it is not pre-mixed so a bottle goes a long way when mixed with water.
as for any kind of stink bug, beetle or weevil problem, what i have found works best and most quickly is Dr. Bronner's Liquid Castile Soap mixed with water. it is totally organic in the sense that it will not harm people or pets. it is a soap made for bathing and shampooing. it will kill whatever bug it comes in contact with so do not spray on bees. it actually has a smothering effect though it is not oily to the touch. i spot spray when i see a bad bug but i have also used it in my pump sprayer to spray the entire garden in the evening when bees are not present. i keep a hand spray bottle inside for the occasional spider or other bug that i can't catch and release outside.
there is no residue left over to "keep on killing" so it does require renewed efforts throughout the growing season.
Thanks Tracks. All very interesting and I believe that I will mention the spinosad to John to possibly use on the vegetable garden. According to the reports from the researchers working on something to eradicate these pests, so far they haven't found anything to be effective. Maybe you are on to something and this will be what helps those of us who will certainly be dealing with them again as the weather warms.
Another chance to learn more about those hateful stink bugs. I found another one less than an hour ago.
The Brown Marmorated Stink Bug
Wednesday, April 20, 7:00– 9:00 p.m. at Ida Lee Recreation Center in Leesburg, VA. Join us at this free Loudoun Wildlife Conservancy program given by Dr. Tracy Leskey, entomologist at the USDA Appalachian Fruit Research Station in Kearneysville, WV. Dr. Leskey and her colleagues are in the forefront of research into the Brown Marmorated Stink Bug. She also co-chairs a special USDA working group composed of farmers and agriculturalists that is trying to find ways to respond to the serious economic and environmental problems this insect poses. Questions: contact Laura McGranaghan at firstname.lastname@example.org.
How is everyone doing? Wonder if Dr, Leskey will have some new news on control of these pests especially for our veggie, fruit and crop growers. Going to take a good look at my broad leafevergreens for any egg masses before other leaves are out and ready as hatcheries for the over wintering adults.
Just a reminder that I'm not seeing in most articles: If you catch stink bugs, or vacuum them up please make sure that your method of disposal doesn't allow them to escape and populate our landfills! Thanks.
We have been finding some swarming on warm days. There were a ton of them between the window and screen one day. Ric vac them up then another large group of them in the garage behind my potting trays. We vac them too.
Again I enjoyed the articles and hints and tips for dealing with these boogers. I am going to try some of the ideas I read such as a squirt bottle with alcohol and the container of soap suds to drown them. There have been very, very few days this past winter that we didn't see at least one of these suckers. I have been flushing them after learning that just putting them back outdoors wasn't doing anything to help the problem but really hate using the extra water. I can set up a bottle or container to keep indoors to trap them and rid of it later.
I am going to also set about making at least one of the cardboard traps that the New Jersey gentleman says has worked for him. Today it is really warm here. I actually turned on the air conditioner. My screen porch has several of the stink bugs sitting on the screen. Yuck!!!
I figure pouring a little kerosene in the vac bag and burning it should ensue the demise of these pest. :-) LOL Ric
I also use a small piece of corn cob to plug the hose between uses to insure their attendence for the BBQ.
Amazing Jen...thank you so very much. So far, thankfully there hasn't been the infestation that we experienced last year. They might all still be on vacation in our attic. hahaha Definitely going to give this a try soon.
Definitely not seeing what we have seen in years past, but they are still here. The worst was a day a few weeks back when getting some stacked window boxes out of storage and separating them and finding masses between the boxes. I went nuts as always. One of my grandson's most used words is stink bug.
We did find something that does a great job of killing them last year though. It is called Bengal GOLD Roach Spray. The Hardware Store Guy told us about it and I have ordered it on line several times since. It works really well and for up to weeks at a time. You are to spray around windows and doors where they might be coming inside. Last summer after using it, I would go out in the mornings and find dozens laying dead at the door stoop. The only good stink bug, is a dead stink bug in my opinion.
Let's hope that the worst is behind us. Too freaky for me.
The University of Maryland released the wasps, and we have them in the yard. I only became aware of them because I was stung by one about six weeks ago. Over the weekend when I was planting tomatoes and other companion plants, I saw some wasps in the garden. The last year couple of years we've been overrun by stinkbugs, but this year I've only seen a handful.
They are definitely less in these parts too thankfully. Gita, yes maam, please be on the alert when working on your shed. A while back I had three stacked empty window boxes sitting on my porch for a few days after bringing them in from one of the sheds. Upon unstacking them, between two of them, there were dozens between the boxes. Yuck!!!
Last summer our Hardware Store personnel told us of a product that does actually work to kill and prevent the bugs. I have spent hundreds of dollars since finding out about the product. Yes, very expensive, but worth the job it did last year. I have ordered it online, so Hardware Store didn't get the sale. It is called Bengal GOLD Roach Spray. Bengal also sells a regular Roach Spray, but something in the GOLD one has an ingredient to prevent the bugs from coming in the house. Instructions say to spray about door and window openings in to house and that it should work for several weeks to prevent the entrance of the bugs. When first using it last summer, I would go outside in the mornings and usually find a couple dozen dead bugs at the door. That is a couple dozen stink bugs that didn't come inside to hide behind picture frames and such.
Let's do hope the worst of the Stink Bug Brigade is behind us though...we can only hope.