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maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 26, 2011
11:45 AM

Post #8451517

Kawonkamish *Greetings*,

A while back Burt's Bees offered small packs of Bee seed mix for postage. I then offered my own Bee & Butterfly mix to Dave's Garden members who were unable to receive any Burt's Bee packet. Though they only went to the ones, who did not get a chance to request them from Burt's Bees. I thought everyone, should have had the chance to help the dwindling bee population. So, I made a mix similar to that of Burt's, but added a few extras. Burt's pack stated it weighs 300mg. I checked it with a measuring spoon and it came to less than 1/4 teaspoon. I have made this year's packs approx. 2 tablespoons.

They'll go to the first 24 responders. Please post your request here, so that I'll be able to tell who requested first. I'll list below with updates. I'll add more packs, if needed or until I run out of seed. I'll Dmail the growing information, when I mail back your SASE.

If mailed in the U.S.A., the SASE needs to have $1.95. in postage on it. (I am sorry to say, the post office has raised the mailing rate to $1.95. Nut-aiuskuiantam *I am sorry*). My post office will return to me any envelope with less than $1.95 in postage. For international requests, I will check with the U.S.A. Post Office website for the cost of shipping to your country and advise you of the postage amount.

Here's a comparison of what Burt's Bees versus my packs contain:

Burt's Bees:
Bee Mix: contains the following: Calendula officinalis, Chrysanthemum maximum, Coreopsis lanceolata, Calliopsis- Coreopsis tinctoria, Echinacea purpurea, Silene armeria

My mix contains:
Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird Mix #1 Warning: Peanut and tree nut shells used as a dispersant: contains the following seeds:
Agastache anisata, Asclepias incarnata, Aurinia saxatilis, Calendula officinalis, Centaurea cyanus, Cheiranthus allonii, Cimicifuga racemosa, Chrysanthemum maximum, Coreopsis lanceolata, Coreopsis tinctoria, Cosmos sp., Cynoglossum sp., Echinacea purpurea, Erysimum sp., Eschoscholzia californica, Gaillardia aristata, Gaillardia pulchella, Gypsophila elegans., Helianthus annuus, Iberis unbellata, Liatris spicata, Linaria maroccana, Linum usitatissimum, Linum perenne, Lobularia maritima, Lunaria annua, Lupinus perennis, Lupinus succulentus, Mirabilis jalapa, Monarda citriodora, Oenothera biennis, Petunia sp., Phlox drummondii, Rudbeckia hirta, Salvia coccinea, Sidalcea malviflora, Silene armeria, Silene coronaria, Trifolium incarnatum, Verbena tenuisecta, Zinnia sp 7 pks

Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird Mix #2 Warning: Peanut and tree nut shells used as dispersant: contains the following seeds:
Alcea rosea, Agastache anisata, Agastache rugosa, Asclepias incarnata, Asclepias physocarpa, Aurinia saxatilis, Centaurea cyanus, Cheiranthus allonii, Cimicifuga racemosa, Coreopsis lanceolata, Coreopsis tinctoria, Cosmos sp., Eschoscholzia californica, Gaillardia aristata, Gaillardia pulchella, Gypsophila elegans., Helenium sp., Helianthus debilis, Liatris spicata, Linaria maroccana, Linum usitatissimum, Linum perenne, Leucanthemum x supurbum, Lobularia maritima, Lunaria annua, Lupinus perennis, Lupinus succulentus, Mirabilis jalapa, Monarda citriodora, Monarda dydima, Nigella damascena, Papaver rhoeas, Phlox drummondii, Rudbeckia hirta, Salvia coccinea, Sidalcea malviflora, Tagetes erecta, Verbena tenuisecta, Xerochrysum bracteatum, Zinnia sp. 6 pks


Updates: A name with a date, means the SASE has been mailed out to the person.

Ohkeommoosog, Amakehs kah Psukses-moonooskommaonk (Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird)#1:
1. sherman99 4/4/11
2. RickCorey_WA 4/12/11
3. SpaceCase418 4/12/11
4. kwanjin 4/12/11
5. mom2goldens 4/27/11
6. SoFlaCommercial 6/16/11
7. monkeymomr 11/12/11
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10.
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12.
13.
14.


Ohkeommoosog, Amakehs kah Psukses-moonooskommaonk (Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird) #2:
1. tikipod 4/09/11
2. cjcjmass 4/09/11
3. noemim 4/19/11
4. yakmon 4/12/11
5. Pfg 4/09/11
6. TinyRose 4/12/11
7. shiva_kalima 4/19/11
8. SpaceCase418 4/12/11
9. rafa3I 4/23/11
10. kevinblaine 4/28/11
11.AmandaEsq 6/12/11
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14.
15.
16.
17.





Aqučne kah nahonnushagk *Peace and farewell*,
WautuckquesSochepo *SnowRabbit*
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Ahque Wunantash: Paskoogan / Pio nabo nequt / Nees muttanonganog kah nequt (Do Not Thou Forget: 9/11/2001)




This message was edited Apr 26, 2012 1:56 PM
tikipod
(Ang) Bremerton, WA
(Zone 8b)

March 27, 2011
12:40 PM

Post #8453671

May I please get a pack? I like the mixes you've made, it's much better than some of the store packets offer.
sherman99
Menifee, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 27, 2011
1:20 PM

Post #8453736

i love the mix i got from you last year. may i please have one? i planted lots of sunflowers this year to help the bees, would like to do more. thanks

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 28, 2011
7:24 AM

Post #8455496

Kawonkamish,

tikipod and sherman99, which mix would you like, mix # 1 or mix # 2.



Aquene (Peace),
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tikipod
(Ang) Bremerton, WA
(Zone 8b)

March 28, 2011
8:13 AM

Post #8455637

#2 please ^_^
sherman99
Menifee, CA
(Zone 9a)

March 28, 2011
9:29 AM

Post #8455823

#1 please
cjcjmass
Snellville, GA
(Zone 8a)

March 28, 2011
3:10 PM

Post #8456610

Hello everyone may i please have a package of seeds for my bird,butterflies and bees.
I would love to have #2 package if thanks a millions.

Cindy
noemim
Zapata, TX

March 29, 2011
10:12 AM

Post #8458438

I would love to have a #2

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

March 29, 2011
7:25 PM

Post #8459415

May I get a "#1"? Thanks very much. I didn't see many bees last year, and some Zinnias and Alyssum seemed mostly unpollinated.

Should I send you a bubble mailer, with 3 "forever stamps"? Is that OK?

Corey

yakmon

yakmon
Portland, TX
(Zone 9b)

March 30, 2011
4:10 AM

Post #8459830

I am interested in mix #2 if there are any left. Please Dmail instructions if possible.

Thanks for your efforts!

Russell
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

March 30, 2011
10:32 AM

Post #8460456

I' d love to get a pack, but don't know how to choose...What would you say is the main difference between the two?

Thanks, Pam

This message was edited Mar 30, 2011 12:48 PM

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 31, 2011
7:49 AM

Post #8462448

[quote="Pfg"]I' d love to get a pack, but don't know how to choose...What would you say is the main difference between the two?

Thanks, Pam

This message was edited Mar 30, 2011 12:48 PM[/quote]

Kawonkamish Pam,

Both packs have some seeds that are similar, but for the most part they have some different seeds. The following are the pack difference:

Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird Mix #1
Calendula officinalis, Chrysanthemum maximum, Cynoglossum sp., Erysimum sp., Helianthus annuus, Iberis unbellata, Oenothera biennis, Petunia sp., Silene armeria, Silene coronaria, Trifolium incarnatum,

Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird Mix #2
Alcea rosea, Agastache rugosa, Asclepias physocarpa, Helenium sp., Helianthus debilis, Leucanthemum x supurbum, Monarda dydima, Nigella damascena, Papaver rhoeas, Tagetes erecta, Xerochrysum bracteatum

Which would you prefer?


Aquene,
Wautuckquessochepo
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maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 31, 2011
8:09 AM

Post #8462496

[quote="RickCorey_WA"]May I get a "#1"? Thanks very much. I didn't see many bees last year, and some Zinnias and Alyssum seemed mostly unpollinated.

Should I send you a bubble mailer, with 3 "forever stamps"? Is that OK?

Corey[/quote]

Kawonkamish Corey,

That would be fine. Taubotny (Thank you).


Aquene,
WautuckquesSochepo
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Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

March 31, 2011
10:31 AM

Post #8462744

I'd like #2 please. I'll send the same as Corey?

Thanks!

Pam

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 31, 2011
11:53 AM

Post #8462866

Pam, That will be fine. Koonepeam(You are welcome).


Aquene,
WautuckquesSochepo
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TinyRose
Ashley, IL

April 3, 2011
4:20 PM

Post #8469608

I would like one of # 2 if still available. Thanks Ina

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 3, 2011
6:06 PM

Post #8469833

I saw a local nursery selling something like "bee houses". Many of their products are very over-priced, and/or frivolous. From a very brief glance, I thought it would just be a bit of rolled-up cardboard and ignored it.

Does anyone on this thread know if it really is practical to provide bees with nesting spots (other than big wooden beehive-boxes)? I live in a pretty urban seting, with just a bit of green and scattered trees.

Is there a practical way to encourage bees, say with recycled materials? I'm working towards establishing some bee-friendly perennials like Saliva, and will plant some spots and containers with your mix.

Corey
cjcjmass
Snellville, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 3, 2011
6:55 PM

Post #8469978

Thank you so much for the offer my env is one it's way...

Cindy
janaestone
(Di) Seven Mile, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2011
8:08 AM

Post #8470932

Corey, those bee house might have been for mason bees. They sell 'house' for them to nest in small cardboard tubes in colonies. They are very easy to deal with and great to have as pollinators.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 4, 2011
8:22 AM

Post #8470962

[quote="RickCorey_WA"]I saw a local nursery selling something like "bee houses". Many of their products are very over-priced, and/or frivolous. From a very brief glance, I thought it would just be a bit of rolled-up cardboard and ignored it.

Does anyone on this thread know if it really is practical to provide bees with nesting spots (other than big wooden beehive-boxes)? I live in a pretty urban setting, with just a bit of green and scattered trees.

Is there a practical way to encourage bees, say with recycled materials? I'm working towards establishing some bee-friendly perennials like Saliva, and will plant some spots and containers with your mix.

Corey
[/quote]

Those Bee Houses are for Mason Bees. http://davesgarden.com/guides/bf/b/Hymenoptera/Megachilidae/Osmia/none/genus/0/

As for the building of houses. If you wish to make a home for Mason Bees, simply take some scrap lumber (3.5 inches wide and 4.5 inches deep) and drill holes 5/16th of an inch in diameter (works best for Mason bees) and 3 to 3˝-inches deep. The back needs to be 0.5 inches thick.

Does and Don'ts for building Bee Houses:

1. Do not use treated wood!

2. Cover the holes with chicken wire to help keep birds away from the bee house.

3. Place securely on the South side of buildings, fence posts, or trees.

4. Scatter some of the houses throughout your yard.

5. DO NOT move bee houses after they are in place until at least November.

6. DO NOT spray insecticides on or around bee houses.


Aquene,
WautuckquesSochepo
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(")_(")
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

April 4, 2011
3:05 PM

Post #8471866

I've just sent you a dmail..

Pam

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 4, 2011
3:09 PM

Post #8471874

Kawonkamish Pam,

I replied to it. ^_^


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(='.'=)
(")_(")

This message was edited Apr 4, 2011 5:10 PM
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

April 4, 2011
3:32 PM

Post #8471903

Thank you!!! I'm looking forward to it!

Pam

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 4, 2011
3:36 PM

Post #8471914

Koonepeam(You are welcome).



Aquene(Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^
shiva_kalima
London
Canada

April 4, 2011
4:39 PM

Post #8472053

May I please have one of these?

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 4, 2011
6:50 PM

Post #8472435

Thnaks! (about mason bees). I added that to my collection of notes.

My first thought was that "mason" sounds close to "carpenter" and Carpenter Bees (I think that was the name) drilled big holes into a house where wood was sometimes damp.

But I'm sure "mason bees" and "carpenter bees" are very different.
If these start drilling any holes in masonry, I'll take lots of pictures.

Corey


maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 5, 2011
8:47 AM

Post #8473557

[quote="shiva_kalima"]May I please have one of these?[/quote]

Yes you may. Which would you like, #1 or #2 ?


Aquene(Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 5, 2011
8:53 AM

Post #8473568

[quote="RickCorey_WA"]...But I'm sure "mason bees" and "carpenter bees" are very different.
If these start drilling any holes in masonry, I'll take lots of pictures.

Corey


[/quote]

Carpenter Bees are Xylocopa, while Mason Bees are Osmia or Megachile. Mason Bees do not drill holes in masonry, but use preexisting holes for nest building. So, your house should be safe... lol.


Aquene(Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^
janaestone
(Di) Seven Mile, OH
(Zone 6b)

April 5, 2011
9:13 AM

Post #8473613

LOL Corey...if any bees start drilling holes in masonry I wanna see them!!!!

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 5, 2011
11:51 AM

Post #8473856

I want to train them, and then rent them out! Or train them to drill holes in my clay soil for me.

Really KILLER Killer Bees.

Corey

(cartoon image of jack-hammer bees ...)
SpaceCase418
Annapolis, MD

April 6, 2011
1:34 AM

Post #8475256

Can i send you double postage for one of each i cant decide! if not i'll be happy with the first pack.

Thanks
~Michael

This message was edited Apr 6, 2011 6:25 PM

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

April 6, 2011
7:28 AM

Post #8475746

I would like one packet of #1. Your packs are better than I've seen anywhere. Thanks for making them available.
shiva_kalima
London
Canada

April 6, 2011
4:14 PM

Post #8476672

I would like #2 please.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 6, 2011
10:23 PM

Post #8477503

[quote="SpaceCase418"]Can i send you double postage for one of each i cant decide! if not i'll be happy with the first pack.

Thanks
~Michael

This message was edited Apr 6, 2011 6:25 PM[/quote]

Kawonkamish Michael,

Yes, you may, that is not a problem.

kawnjin and shiva_kalima: I set the packs aside for you both.


Aquene(Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^
SpaceCase418
Annapolis, MD

April 8, 2011
1:37 PM

Post #8480935

Kawonkamish to you as well!

Thank you for your generosity these will be of great use. my parents have an old clay tennis court which i am naturalizing. i have planted lentils to fix the "soil" and break it up. your mixes will be great to attract local animals (and me) and a good start at adding organic matter for next year.

I sent the envelope today to the address listed for you in the address exchange. i hope that is the right place to send it.

Thank you again, i think its great what you are doing for the environment. you are a modern "johnny appleseed" :)

~Michael

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 8, 2011
1:45 PM

Post #8480952

I didn't know lentils were good for breaking up clay soil. I guess they fix nitrogen, too.

Ever since I read about "tillage radishes", I've been looking for cheap, big radish seeds, like daikon or oilseed radishes.

Corey
SpaceCase418
Annapolis, MD

April 8, 2011
3:37 PM

Post #8481163

[quote="RickCorey_WA"]I didn't know lentils were good for breaking up clay soil. I guess they fix nitrogen, too.

Ever since I read about "tillage radishes", I've been looking for cheap, big radish seeds, like daikon or oilseed radishes.

Corey[/quote]

Corey i am not positive that the lentils will be good at breaking up the soil. my thought process on those were along the lines of they don't need many nutrients and will die off during the winter leaving a layer of organic matter. plus you can get them at the supermarket bulk sections for $1 lb.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 8, 2011
4:05 PM

Post #8481214

Hmm! Those are viable seeds? Cool!

Corey

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 9, 2011
2:57 PM

Post #8483370

Here are some plants that help break up clay soil:

Plants Recommended for Growing in Clay Soil
(Zones will vary with variety.)

Amsonia Blue Star (Zones 5-9)
Asclepias tuberosa Butterfly Weed (Zones 4-9)
Aster (various) Aster (Zones 4-8)
Coreopsis Tickseed (Zones 4-8)
Echinacea purpurea Coneflower (Zones 3-9)
Eryngium yuccifolium Sea Holly (Zones 5-10)
Helianthus angustifolius Swamp Sunflower (Zones 6-9)
Helianthus x laetiflorus False Sunflower (Zones 5-9)
Heliopsis helianthoides Ox Eye (Zones 4-9)
Hemerocallis Daylily (Zones 3-10)
Liatris pycnostachya Kansas Gayfeather (Zones 4-9)
Liatris spicata Blazing Star, Gayfeather (Zones 4-9)
Monarda fistulosa Wild Bee Balm (Zones 3-9)
Ratibida pinnata Drooping Coneflower (Zones 3-10)
Rudbeckia hirta Black-eyed Susan, Gloriosa Daisy (Zones 3-7)
Sedum 'Autumn Joy' (Zones 3-10)
Silphium integrifolium Prairie Dock (Zones 4-7)
Silphium laciniatum Compass Plant (Zones 5-9)
Silphium perfoliatum Cup Plant (Zones 5-9)
Solidago Goldenrod (zones 5-9)
Vernonia noveboracensis Ironweed (Zones 5-9)
Yucca filamentosa Adam's Needle (Zones 5-10)

Ornamental Grasses Suited for Clay Soils

Acorus gramiineus Grassy-leaved Sweet Flag (Zones 10-11)
Andropogon gerardi Big Bluestem (Zones 2-7)
Elymus canadensis Canadian Wild Rye (Zones 3-8)
Miscanthus sinensis Eulalia Grass (Zones 4-9)
Panicum virgatum Switch Grass (Zones 5-9)
Pennisetum (various) Fountain Grass (Zones 6-9)
Sorghastrum nutans Indian Grass, Wood Grass (Zones 5-8)
Spartina pectinata Prairie Cord Grass (Zones 4-7)



Aquene(Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 9, 2011
3:03 PM

Post #8483378

Hmm! I have some trade packets of these, either sitting idle or just casually trying "let's see if a six-pack of this is easy to sprout"

Asclepias tuberosa Butterfly Weed (Zones 4-9)
Aster (various) Aster (Zones 4-8)
Coreopsis Tickseed (Zones 4-8)
Liatris spicata Blazing Star, Gayfeather (Zones 4-9)

If they will really break up unimproved soil, I should make a concerted effort to start them all, even if I have no raised bed room for them.

I didn't realize Asters were perennial.

Corey
shiva_kalima
London
Canada

April 11, 2011
5:45 AM

Post #8486949

Can you please dmail me instructions on how to do this please? Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you.

Lisa
cjcjmass
Snellville, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 15, 2011
7:19 AM

Post #8497399

Aquene

I recieved my package of seeds today and i would like to say thank you so much..
The Bonus seeds are very much appreciated..

Happy Gardening...
Cindy
rafa3l
Montreal
Canada

April 15, 2011
9:08 AM

Post #8497625

Hi ;)

Any seeds left , would love to help out the bees
let me know!
SpaceCase418
Annapolis, MD

April 15, 2011
5:28 PM

Post #8498621

thank you so much i received my seeds!
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

April 16, 2011
12:40 AM

Post #8499151

My seeds arrived today. Thank you! Also thanks for the bonus seeds, I look forward to trying them!

Pam

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 16, 2011
10:21 AM

Post #8499925

[quote="rafa3l"]Hi ;)

Any seeds left , would love to help out the bees
let me know![/quote]


Kawonkamish rafa3I,

Which seeds would you like? When you let me know I will set the seeds aside for you.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit
sherman99
Menifee, CA
(Zone 9a)

April 16, 2011
1:08 PM

Post #8500185

that list of clay breaking plants is wonderful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mom2goldens
Carmel, IN
(Zone 5b)

April 16, 2011
2:39 PM

Post #8500349

I would love to attract more bees...may I please request mix #1 if still available?

Do you need a regular or bubble envelope with postage?

Thank you for this generous offer!
Linda
tikipod
(Ang) Bremerton, WA
(Zone 8b)

April 16, 2011
3:48 PM

Post #8500447

Arrived today! Thank you so much ^_^

yakmon

yakmon
Portland, TX
(Zone 9b)

April 16, 2011
3:56 PM

Post #8500458

I received mine in the mail today too! Thank you for your efforts...can't wait to try the mix out.

Tikipod - I love the name!

Russell

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 16, 2011
10:32 PM

Post #8501067

Thanks very much for the generous mound of seeds!

Corey

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

April 16, 2011
10:35 PM

Post #8501072

I got mine yesterday. Thanks so much!

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 18, 2011
11:18 AM

Post #8504164

[quote="mom2goldens"]I would love to attract more bees...may I please request mix #1 if still available?

Do you need a regular or bubble envelope with postage?

Thank you for this generous offer!
Linda[/quote]

Kawonkamish Linda,

Yes you may have a packet. I will set one aside for you. A regular envelope is fine. I have lots of bubble wrap.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit
TinyRose
Ashley, IL

April 20, 2011
7:14 PM

Post #8509947

Received the seeds. I am looking forward to getting the seeds in the ground. Very generous of you to also send the bonus seeds. Thank you, TinyRose

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 21, 2011
6:09 AM

Post #8510657

Koonepeam (You are welcome), TinyRose.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^
kevinblaine
Somerset, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 21, 2011
7:11 PM

Post #8512351

I would like to get a #2 please. Will send envelope and postage out tomorrow.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 23, 2011
11:12 AM

Post #8515513

[quote="kevinblaine"]I would like to get a #2 please. Will send envelope and postage out tomorrow.[/quote]

Kawonkamish Kevin,

I will set one aside for you.


Aquene (Peace),
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(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 23, 2011
12:15 PM

Post #8515585

[quote="RickCorey_WA"]... If they will really break up unimproved soil, I should make a concerted effort to start them all, even if I have no raised bed room for them.

I didn't realize Asters were perennial.

Corey
[/quote]
Kawonkamish Rick,

Here are some Hardy Asters, native and non-native.

Native Perennial Asters:
Aster alpinus- Alpine Aster 'Beauty Sky Blue'
Aster carolinianus- Climbing Aster
Aster cordifolius- Common Blue Wood Aster
Aster divaricatus- White Wood Aster
Aster ericoides- White Heath Aster
Aster novae-angliae- New England Aster 'Purple Dome'
•Aster novi-belgii- New York Aster
Aster x 'Woods Light Blue'

Non-native Perenial Asters:
Aster amellus- Italian Aster (native to Italy)
Aster amellus L. ssp. ibericus- Iberian Aster (native to North-western Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal))
Aster farreri- Tibetian Michaelmass Daisy (native to Tibet)
Aster linosyris- Goldilocks Aster (native to United Kingdom)
Aster thomsonii- Thomson's Aster (native to Himalayas, Pakistan to Uttarakhand,)
Aster tongolensis- West Indies Aster 'Wartburg Star' (native to Western China)
Aster tongolensis- West Indies Aster 'Burrgarten' (native to Western China)
Aster tongolensis- West Indies Aster 'Napsbury' (native to Western China)


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
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(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit ^_^

*Edited for duplication.

This message was edited Apr 26, 2012 1:48 PM
kevinblaine
Somerset, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 23, 2011
7:58 PM

Post #8516516

Sorry, I didn't get the envie and postage out. I will definitely get it out Monday.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 24, 2011
9:48 PM

Post #8518750

Thanaks, I've added that list of Asters to my notes.

I've heard about "tillage radishes" used instead of a plow to drill holes in heavy soil and add organic matter, but I think their idea of "heavy" soil is like my idea of "amended soil".

Corey
noemim
Zapata, TX

April 25, 2011
9:41 AM

Post #8519123

Received the seeds, will go on the ground today, can't wait to see what pops up, appreciate the bonus

thank you,
noemi

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2011
6:21 AM

Post #8521198

[quote="RickCorey_WA"]Thanaks, I've added that list of Asters to my notes.

I've heard about "tillage radishes" used instead of a plow to drill holes in heavy soil and add organic matter, but I think their idea of "heavy" soil is like my idea of "amended soil".

Corey[/quote]

Kawonkamish Rick,

The radish you need for breaking up clay ground is Oilseed Radish- Raphanus sativus. You is as a cover crop. It has an extra-long taproot that breaks up and aerates the soil. It will also bring up nutients for the next plants. Till/tgurn it under just before it flowers. It will decompose and help to control cysts and stinging nematodes. It is hardy to 20°F, so it is great for planting in the fall. Hope this is helpful.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") The Official Easter Rabbit

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2011
6:29 AM

Post #8521220

Oh I almost forgot; there is another plant you could try to help break up the soil. It is Sweet Clover- Melilotus officinalis. It is a great plant for green manure; it is a great honey plant, too. Sow it as an annual or let it winter over and it will grow to 6 feet tall. It has deep roots that will break up the soil and will fix nitrogen as much as Alfalfa and does not need nonacid soil. It produces yellow with a few white flowers. You can get it pre inoculated from some catalogs or you will need to inoculate it yourself.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 26, 2011
10:08 AM

Post #8521643

Thank you. I haven't seen oilseed radish for sale, but I probably need t5o drive out to a coop or feed store.

I figured that oilseed radish must be very good for the purpose, becuase the "Tillage radish people" put a lot of effort into claiming that theirs was "better than oilseed radish".

I liked some of their advertising slogans: "Park that heavy metal!" meaning, don't plow and disk, just plant radishes.

I added both to my "clay soil" notes. I suspect that, when lists of cover crops say "tolerates heavy soil", they don't mean AS heavy as my unimproved stuff. Even dandilions find it a challenge.

Corey

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 26, 2011
11:00 AM

Post #8521761

I know you can get Oilseed Radish and Sweet Clover from Johnny's Selected Seeds in Winslow Maine. They have a website. Let me know if you are interested and I can Dmail you the cost and shipping information.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 26, 2011
11:22 AM

Post #8521800

I do already have Johnny's listed in my "Cover Crops" notes.

What I wish I could order online is about 1/4 acre of sunny land to grow more things on!

Corey

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 27, 2011
7:24 AM

Post #8523829

Lol.

Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

April 29, 2011
9:48 AM

Post #8528377

I have, seven of #1 and two of #2, of the Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird packets remaining.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

mom2goldens
Carmel, IN
(Zone 5b)

May 1, 2011
10:45 AM

Post #8532390

My seeds arrived safely on Friday. Thank you so much--I'm certain to have some beautiful flowers to attract those pollinators. Can't wait to plant them in a few weeks.

Linda
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

May 1, 2011
7:05 PM

Post #8533321

Are there seeds still available? Either pack would be fine, my daughter has a field next to her house, we are planting more every year to smother weeds and attract bees, etc.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

May 2, 2011
3:40 PM

Post #8535243

Kawonkamish Cathy,

Yes I do have BB&H packets left. I will send you a Dmail.


Aquene (Peace),
WautuckquesSochepo (SnowRabbit)
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
SoFlaCommercial
West Palm Beach, FL
(Zone 10b)

May 24, 2011
9:22 PM

Post #8585625

any more seeds available?????

new bee here. need to help bee population, i think...have seen one or two bees. a few wasps. rest of pollinators are yellow jackets.


...and daughter griping that i just have veggies in garden - no flowers.

thanks.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

May 29, 2011
2:32 PM

Post #8594986

Kawonkamish SoFlaCommercial,

Yes, I do have some left. Which would you like?


Aquene *Peace*,
WautuckquesSochepo *SnowRabbit*
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
SoFlaCommercial
West Palm Beach, FL
(Zone 10b)

May 29, 2011
6:08 PM

Post #8595419

What do you have? I'm not picky; just something to attract the beauties. :)

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

May 31, 2011
7:00 AM

Post #8598862

Kawonkamish SoFlaCommercial,

I have the following:

Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird Mix #1:
Agastache anisata, Asclepias incarnata, Aurinia saxatilis, Calendula officinalis, Centaurea cyanus, Cheiranthus allonii, Cimicifuga racemosa, Chrysanthemum maximum, Coreopsis lanceolata, Coreopsis tinctoria, Cosmos sp., Cynoglossum sp., Echinacea purpurea, Erysimum sp., Eschoscholzia californica, Gaillardia aristata, Gaillardia pulchella, Gypsophila elegans., Helianthus annuus, Iberis unbellata, Liatris spicata, Linaria maroccana, Linum usitatissimum, Linum perenne, Lobularia maritima, Lunaria annua, Lupinus perennis, Lupinus succulentus, Mirabilis jalapa, Monarda citriodora, Oenothera biennis, Petunia sp., Phlox drummondii, Rudbeckia hirta, Salvia coccinea, Sidalcea malviflora, Silene armeria, Silene coronaria, Trifolium incarnatum, Verbena tenuisecta, Zinnia sp

Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird Mix #2: Alcea rosea, Agastache anisata, Agastache rugosa, Asclepias incarnata, Asclepias physocarpa, Aurinia saxatilis, Centaurea cyanus, Cheiranthus allonii, Cimicifuga racemosa, Coreopsis lanceolata, Coreopsis tinctoria, Cosmos sp., Eschoscholzia californica, Gaillardia aristata, Gaillardia pulchella, Gypsophila elegans., Helenium sp., Helianthus debilis, Liatris spicata, Linaria maroccana, Linum usitatissimum, Linum perenne, Leucanthemum x supurbum, Lobularia maritima, Lunaria annua, Lupinus perennis, Lupinus succulentus, Mirabilis jalapa, Monarda citriodora, Monarda dydima, Nigella damascena, Papaver rhoeas, Phlox drummondii, Rudbeckia hirta, Salvia coccinea, Sidalcea malviflora, Tagetes erecta, Verbena tenuisecta, Xerochrysum bracteatum, Zinnia sp.


Aquene *Peace*,
WautuckquesSochepo *SnowRabbit*
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
SoFlaCommercial
West Palm Beach, FL
(Zone 10b)

May 31, 2011
8:50 AM

Post #8599162

I think most of the stuff in Mix #1 will survive in zone 10a, eh?

I'll take door #1. :)

My address is in the seed exchange. I'm on facebook, too, if you need to get hold of me that way as well.

Have a great day.

dawn.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

June 2, 2011
8:42 AM

Post #8603800

Kawonkamish Dawn,

I have set the packet aside for you. It will cost more, because you wanted the 3 Sisters as well. I will Dmail you the postage cost.


Aquene *Peace*,
WautuckquesSochepo *SnowRabbit*
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 2, 2011
8:12 PM

Post #8605295

Kawonkamish maccionoadha. ;)

I plant only natives and garden for wildlife.

Last year I developed a Monarch Waystation.

http://www.monarchwatch.org/waystations/

This year I'm working for the bees:

http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/horticulture/DG8484.html

I would be delighted to receive your seed packet #2. You are very generous to share this bounty with us. :)

Thank you and goodnight.

~Amanda

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

June 6, 2011
10:32 AM

Post #8612854

Kawonkamish Amanda,

I have set a #2 packet aside for you.


Aquene,
WautuckquesSochepo
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
monkeymomr
San Bernardino, CA
(Zone 9a)

November 5, 2011
7:34 PM

Post #8878221

Hi, I just wanted to sign up for #1 if there are any left. This is a very nice thing that you have done. Thank you, Robyn
SoFlaCommercial
West Palm Beach, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 5, 2011
7:39 PM

Post #8878236

hey there, maccionadha:

how long does it take to germinate the butterfly mix? I did a broadcast awhile ago, but so far, nothing.

although, we have had cool weather (well, cool for florida) lately...

btw - thank you for your generosity.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

November 7, 2011
2:29 PM

Post #8880504

[quote="SoFlaCommercial"]hey there, maccionadha:

how long does it take to germinate the butterfly mix? I did a broadcast awhile ago, but so far, nothing.

although, we have had cool weather (well, cool for florida) lately...

btw - thank you for your generosity.[/quote]

Kawonkamish SoFlaCommercial,

It depends on the temperature, soil type and moisture. Please let me know how they are doing. Here is the information on the seeds I sent you.

Ohkeommoosog, Amakehs kah Psukses-moonooskommaonk (Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird)

1. Select a well-drained site. The area needs a minimum of 8-hours daily of direct sun light. It should be broadcasted over an area about 4' x 5' or (20 square feet). It may seem a lot of area for the amount of seed, but many of the seeds are perennials and will come back next year. The annuals will reseed themselves, so you will have them filling up the are next year, also.

2. Use an herbicide to eliminate any vegetation, that would compete with the wildflowers or mow the existing or dead plant material as short as possible. Collect the clippings and dispose from the site.

3. Prepare the seed bed by raking or lightly tilling the surface. Do not till more than 1-inch deep or you will bring to the surface dormant weed seeds.

4. Mix seeds in a carrier such as masonry sand, perlite, potting soil, etc. to help in seed dispersal over the site. Recommend 4 parts inert material to 1 part seed.

5. Broadcast half of the seed over the prepared area, as uniformly as possible. Next, broadcast the remainder of seed in a perpendicular direction to the first sowing.

6. Press the seed into the soil lightly, either by walking over it or using a roller. Do not cover the seed any deeper than 1/16-inch. Some seed should will be visible.

7. Lightly water the planting bed. If inadequate rainfall happens during germination and seedling establishment, supplement the rainfall if necessary. Water gently. It's easy for seeds to be washed away by heavy watering. Use the mist attachment on a watering wand or a watering can that has a gentle sprinkle. Be sure to keep soil moist until seedlings are up; keep the seedlings watered do not let soil dry out.

When established, most plants want moist (but not soggy) soil around their roots all the time. In late spring, too frequent and too shallow watering makes roots rise to the top of the soil for moisture; this discourages deep root growth and leads to survival problems during hot summer months. Deep-watered plants will have long, deep-seated roots that will find moisture beneath the surface when the sun has baked the ground; 1-inch a week is suitable for most plants.


Bee, Butterfly & Hummingbird #1Days to Germination

Agastache anisata- 7 to 16
Asclepias incarnata- 14 to 21
Aurinia saxatilis- 7 to 14
Calendula officinalis- 7 to 12
Centaurea cyanus- 7 to 14
Cheiranthus allonii- 7 to 10
Cimicifuga racemosa- 60 to 90
Chrysanthemum maximum- 10 to 28
Coreopsis lanceolata, Coreopsis tinctoria- 10 to 21
Cosmos sp.- 7 to 10
Cynoglossum sp.- 30 to 60
Echinacea purpurea- 10 to 21
Erysimum sp.- 10 to 14
Eschoscholzia californica- 14 to 21
Gaillardia aristata, Gaillardia pulchella- 15 to 20
Gypsophila elegans- 7 to 21
Helianthus annuus- 7 to 14
Iberis umbellata- 10 to 15
Liatris spicata- 56 to 84
Linaria maroccana- 7 to 14
Linum usitatissimum, Linum perenne- 14 to 21
Lobularia maritima- 10 to 21
Lunaria annua- 10 to 14
Lupinus perennis, Lupinus succulentus- 18 to 21
Mirabilis jalapa- 7 to 21
Monarda citriodora- 10 to 40
Oenothera biennis- 14 to 30
Petunia sp.- 10 to 21
Phlox drummondii- 5 to 10
Rudbeckia hirta- 8 to 21
Salvia coccinea- 12 to 18
Sidalcea malviflora- 7 to 21
Silene armeria, Silene coronaria- 8 to 23
Trifolium incarnatum- 7 to 21
Verbena tenuisecta- 14 to 90
Zinnia sp- 3 to 5



Aqučne,
WaűtuckquesSóchepo
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Ahque Wunantash: Paskoogan / Pio nabo nequt / Nees muttanonganog kah nequt (Do Not Thou Forget: 9/11/2001)

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

November 7, 2011
2:31 PM

Post #8880509

[quote="monkeymomr"]Hi, I just wanted to sign up for #1 if there are any left. This is a very nice thing that you have done. Thank you, Robyn[/quote]

Wunne Wunnonkou (Good Evening) Robyn,

I have set one aside for you. I will be sending you a Dmail.

Aqučne,
WaűtuckquesSóchepo
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Ahque Wunantash: Paskoogan / Pio nabo nequt / Nees muttanonganog kah nequt (Do Not Thou Forget: 9/11/2001)
SoFlaCommercial
West Palm Beach, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 7, 2011
3:32 PM

Post #8880601

hey there, maccionoadha:

I used both butterfly mixes you sent me and broadcast over a 4' x 10' area about a week ago. eagerly awaiting seedlings!

how dense will the plants grow? just wondering if I should purchase some wildflower mix from lowe's to add to it.

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

November 8, 2011
10:55 AM

Post #8881603

Kawonkamish SoFlaCommercial,

It will take about 2 years for it to become field like. Do not deadhead. You need to let them go to seed. Not only will this allow them to self-sow and grow dense, but will allow a foraging area for birds. If you do want to, you can mow the area, once the plants die back(become brown and begin to dry up). You could also buy a commercial mix, but as compared to my mix, they tend to have more inert material. If you wish, I can send you another pack of seeds. It is up to you.

Wunne Tabuttantamoonk! (Happy Thanksgiving!)


Aqučne,
WaűtuckquesSóchepo
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Ahque Wunantash: Paskoogan / Pio nabo nequt / Nees-muttanonganog kah nequt (Do Not Thou Forget: 9/11/2001
SoFlaCommercial
West Palm Beach, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 8, 2011
11:20 AM

Post #8881629

I never turn down seeds... :)
alday
Center, TX

November 9, 2011
3:02 PM

Post #8883390

Hi, If you have any more, would sure like some. Please let me know how many stamps and your add. Thanks Alday

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

November 13, 2011
4:37 PM

Post #8888807

Wunne Wunnonkou (Good Evening) SoFlaCommercial and alday,

I have sending you both Dmails.

Wunne Tabuttantamoonk! (Happy Thanksgiving!)


Aqučne,
WaűtuckquesSóchepo
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Ahque Wunantash: Paskoogan / Pio nabo nequt / Nees-muttanonganog kah nequt (Do Not Thou Forget: 9/11/2001)
SoFlaCommercial
West Palm Beach, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 13, 2011
8:24 PM

Post #8889190

thank you very much!

maccionoadha

maccionoadha
Halifax, MA
(Zone 6a)

November 14, 2011
1:12 PM

Post #8890112

[quote="alday"]Hi, If you have any more, would sure like some. Please let me know how many stamps and your add. Thanks Alday[/quote]

Wunne Quâttuhquŏhquâ (Good Afternoon) Alda,

Which mix would you care to have? Wunne Tabuttantamoonk! (Happy Thanksgiving!)


Aqučne,
WaűtuckquesSóchepo
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Ahque Wunantash: Paskoogan / Pio nabo nequt / Nees muttanonganog kah nequt (Do Not Thou Forget: 9/11/2001)
alday
Center, TX

November 15, 2011
7:28 AM

Post #8891106

It does not matter. Whatever is ok. I just mailed the postage to you. alday

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