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htcoe
Oriental, NC
(Zone 8a)

April 13, 2011
9:12 AM

Post #8492624

I've been reading a lot about using human urine for nitrogen fertilizer and even composting human waste. There is one thing I have never seen addressed about this. Everyone I know (well, I'm old) has some sort of health issues and take various medications. Surely some of this is being peed out. Will plants uptake the meds? I would think so. Has anyone seen anything about this? Frankly, I am seriously concerned about this.

Helen
SuzanSkylark
Pipersville, PA
(Zone 6b)

April 13, 2011
9:11 PM

Post #8494246

Helen- I am thinking that most of the pharmacological content is pretty much used up and absorbed by the body- I don't know for sure . . .
SuzanSkylark
Pipersville, PA
(Zone 6b)

April 13, 2011
9:13 PM

Post #8494250

I'd have to say that, no matter what residual drug content might remain in your urine, the byproduct will still be so much more pure than anything you're buying in the grocery, and anything produced by non-organic components, I wouldn't/won't worry about it.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 14, 2011
11:22 AM

Post #8495284

Filtered human urine -- one of the purest drinks on the planet...
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 14, 2011
11:31 AM

Post #8495307

Linda ,( exasperated ) , How do you filter it ?In our recovered water supply ? Some people we knew , camped out for the summer did compost into their garden and had the nicest harvest I Never ate .I know , plants only take up nutrents , but they had to touch them .
luciee
Hanceville, AL
(Zone 7a)

April 15, 2011
8:41 AM

Post #8497577

Urine is one thing, human feces another. I would be very hesitant to reccomend human feces, it has so many pathogens that humans can get sick from. Ever hear of E. Coli 0157?
I am a retired lab techincian. I would not worry about the urine so much. My husband and son have urinated at the garden for keeping deer away. Luciee
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 15, 2011
8:48 AM

Post #8497594

Luciee , I'm with you . The thought of solids turn me green .
htcoe
Oriental, NC
(Zone 8a)

April 15, 2011
9:11 AM

Post #8497628

Mother Earth News (April-May 2011) had an interesting article about composting human waste. After a year of composting it with comfrey and straw it tested negative for fecal bacteria. Many countries use urine and waste for fertilizer and I am not talking about third world countries. Would I do this? Well, I have no problems about the urine but I would be concerned about the feces. I think that you would have to be into serious composting to do this properly.

My father was doing organic gardening almost sixty years ago and he was considered a bit of a crack pot for doing so. I think we have been brain washed on a lot of things and I admire the people who go against the flow. Oops, no pun intended.

Helen

digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 15, 2011
9:21 AM

Post #8497638

On the solids , my stream cuts off and flows around the other side of the hill .lol If everything was dried out and broken down , it might be ok . I just have a hard time thinking about it getting to that stage . Odd , animal solids are a highly desirable commodity for me . I seek them out . Urine is fine too

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 15, 2011
11:39 AM

Post #8497883

Digger, digger, digger9083!
Human urine comes out of the body nicely filtered by an amazing system called KIDNEYS! Which is why they're so important!

Now, On another note...

You remember the newbie gardener cousin in Georgia I was telling you about? Well, sister-girl scored BIG!

She drove home with 21 strawbales she got for FREE on Craigslist, in a rented truck the Home Depot people ended up letting her drive for FREE!

Price of that strawbale garden?: PRICELESS!
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 15, 2011
12:28 PM

Post #8497958

NO WAY ! Did you tell her I'll send her a potty ? LOL Man , I never heard of HD giving anything free . They do run an ad that the first hour for the truck is free when you buy and put it on your card . I need to know her secret . Congrads to her . The cheapest I've seen bales is 2.50 for last years mulch hay . That lady must live right .
What area of GA does she live in ?
Sure it's filtered by the kidneys , but the good stuff is retained and the bad stuff goes out the spout , right ? Oh, this is getting so funny .
Linny1
(Linny) Salem, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 15, 2011
2:46 PM

Post #8498238

Y'all are freakin' me out...never thought I was prudish... but no way am I peeing on the strawbales... gross
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 15, 2011
3:48 PM

Post #8498374

Linny , this is supposed to be fun . Love ya , Sally
htcoe
Oriental, NC
(Zone 8a)

April 15, 2011
6:21 PM

Post #8498755

About ten years ago I ran across a woman who spun and dyed her own wool from natural sources. We started talking about the various plant sources she used to color her yarn. THEN we came to the beautiful bright yellow yarn. She said that she peed into a jar every morning and left it in the sun to "cure". She said that after about two weeks she was gagging from the smell but, really, the yarn was beautiful. She said that she could never do it again, not that her husband would let her, lol.

begonianinny, I couldn't pee on the bales if I wanted to. A few years ago my husband and I were exploring the back roads of NC when I knew that I could never get back to a gas station. I told DH my situation and he said that he had to pee too so we went our separate ways. Well, I braced myself against a tree as best I could and really served that tree well. Unfortunately the back of my pants got watered too. And I had to sit wet in our car that was exactly one day old.

Helen

Linny1
(Linny) Salem, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 16, 2011
4:57 AM

Post #8499299

digger, N O W ya tell me!

But I'm with you, Helen.

Yes, I know Ghandi drank his own urine, but his diet was different. Or maybe in India his urine was cleaner than the water.

digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 16, 2011
5:51 AM

Post #8499374

Now that's funny
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

April 16, 2011
6:19 PM

Post #8500725

Hey you guys, on one of the other forums the ladies were getting this stuff delivered by so many yards. I am thinking they got it free 'cause it was a trial thing in a locale by Seattle.

But, if I remember correctly, they were only using it on their flowers. If anyone is interested I will try to find the thread. I was reading it last year.

Years ago someone else was experimenting with it called "sludge", I think puting it on lawns or something.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 16, 2011
9:25 PM

Post #8501012

Look, Digger!

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Click the image for an enlarged view.

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

April 16, 2011
9:32 PM

Post #8501016

Gymgirl what are you going to do with that? If you are going to plant in them you better get them cooking.
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 17, 2011
4:09 AM

Post #8501225

I like , Linda . Those look like straw , . Try the hay too , I like it better , but this year , remember , I'm leaving and won't be here to take care of plants . Any hay I get will be for compost/potting soil later .
Done any scratching lately ?
Why oh why didn't I know about all this when I was home year round , and only had a few weeks to enjoy vacation ? When you retire , you really go from one job to another . Retired is hard to manage your time . Really .
serenaski
Traverse City, MI
(Zone 6a)

April 17, 2011
8:00 AM

Post #8501696

Yeah, people have kidneys that filter stuff, but even when I take vitamins my urine turns colors and if I take Aleve or Tylenol it turns dark, and if I eat beets it turns a rather attractive vivd red, so I would not trust urine from someone who has to take a lot of meds that may not be filtered all the way out. And if plants would only absorb the nutrients that they need then why bother organic gardening, I thought part of the benefit apart from not doing ecological damage was what you were consuming from within the plants not just what gets stuck to the outside of it??? I don't know, I set my bails out last week and it has been too cold for them to really start cooking, so I haven't gotten much of a go on the conditioning process, but I think I will go with the ammonium granules from the feed store instead of trying to pee in a jug.
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 17, 2011
8:11 AM

Post #8501712

Organic is natural fertilizer .Other than that , I have not a clue .

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 18, 2011
10:46 AM

Post #8504086

Those bales are what my Cousin in Georgia scored for free.
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 18, 2011
12:35 PM

Post #8504269

Duh , I thought those under the carport was what you were showing off , because I didn't have any . I'm not too bright sometimes .
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

April 18, 2011
9:13 PM

Post #8505463

What were you suppose to look at Sally? That is what I looked at also. What did I miss?
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 19, 2011
5:19 AM

Post #8505842

The picture of the bales are linda's cousin's in Ga . I first thought she was posting a picture of her own bales. Free is good! Sally
Linny1
(Linny) Salem, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 21, 2011
5:46 AM

Post #8510595

I planted my bales this morning, inbetween the rains, and when I had to pee, I came in the house. But I thought of y' all.
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 21, 2011
10:31 AM

Post #8511199

What ? you don't carry a folded paper towel in your pocket ?
catmad
Pelzer, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 23, 2011
12:45 PM

Post #8515625

Serenaski wrote;"so I haven't gotten much of a go on the conditioning process, but I think I will go with the ammonium granules from the feed store instead of trying to pee in a jug."
If you're trying to use less chemicals, try bloodmeal. I use it when pressed for time, and it works fine. Some people say it will attract dogs and/or wildlife, but I've never had issues.
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

April 23, 2011
12:50 PM

Post #8515633

I love this thread .
SuzanSkylark
Pipersville, PA
(Zone 6b)

April 23, 2011
2:11 PM

Post #8515736

tee-hee
Linny1
(Linny) Salem, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 23, 2011
6:28 PM

Post #8516256

I hate this thread
htcoe
Oriental, NC
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
5:20 AM

Post #8547257

There was a girl from Nantucket,
Who had a great need of a bucket

A bit of a wee,
Or make that a pee,

And on my straw bale I will dump it!
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

May 8, 2011
5:51 AM

Post #8547300

Are you kin to Longfellow ?
You're a poet and we didn't know it .
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

May 8, 2011
7:05 AM

Post #8547420

Beginninny, that's easy. With the click of a mouse it's gone.
htcoe
Oriental, NC
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
7:33 AM

Post #8547465

Digger, It is 25 years of writing limricks for DH, most of which can not be repeated,lol.
digger9083
Dahlonega, GA

May 8, 2011
11:50 AM

Post #8547845

Loved it ,Htcoe !
Jnette , She was only kidding . Promise .

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