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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 27, 2011
3:15 PM

Post #8524675

Did anyone order Caladiums from Caladiums4Less? I did order some and Bill said he would be shipping to my area sometime in April but I haven't received anything yet. I know it's been colder than normal this year and maybe that's why I haven't seen my order yet but I was just wondering. First time I ordered from one of the classified ads.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 28, 2011
6:15 AM

Post #8525863

I did order from him too, but dont expect anything until June. mine are going to zone4.

I've heard nothing but great things about him, his service and his bulbs... so i wouldnt be worried.

I recall something about -- he wont ship until he knows the temps are right for the bulbs ... has to be the ground temps, or the bulbs may not make it. I have found he was quick to reply to email -- if you just wanna drop him a note.

Terese
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 28, 2011
6:48 AM

Post #8525978

Terese - thanks for the reply. I did email him about two weeks ago, knowing I was going to be away for 5 days but I never heard anything back from him. That's what had me a little worried but knowing that you have had experience with this company does alleviate any concern. :)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 13, 2011
4:10 PM

Post #8628261

Hmmm - still no order received. Never heard from Bill on my first email. Called 6/9 and left message but no call back. Called again today and left message since I couldn't get a live body on the phone. Also sent another email but no reply so far. I know he's cashed my check so don't know what gives. Since he does seem to respond to the Watchdog forum, maybe I should go there to ask where my order is. Not real happy at this point.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2011
5:14 AM

Post #8629242

Cindy... i emailed Bill about a week ago, and he stated my Email wound up in the spam folder - he shipped out right way and got my box last Friday. this is the email that his reply came from caladiumbulbs4less@earthlink.net

that is really weird that you have had no contact...

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2011
5:15 AM

Post #8629244

Oh -- but yes... i would ask on their site thing on watch dog... i'm sure you will get a reply there.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 14, 2011
6:50 AM

Post #8629413

I've been using the same email address. In fact, we emailed back and forth back when I placed the order. And I "replied" to the original email from Bill when I've been trying to contact him. But that doesn't explain why I'm not getting a live person to talk to or even a return phone call.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 15, 2011
12:22 PM

Post #8632326

Still no response from this company. Left another message today (NEVER a live person) and sent another email, this time with no attachment just in case this is causing a problem with his mail. That doesn't explain why he can't return a phone call. And I did post on the Watchdog forum, giving him a neutral until the end of the week. Then it turns "negative". Since I sent a personal check, I'll now have to figure out how to get my money back.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2011
3:25 PM

Post #8632713

Cindy -- that is such a bummer. I never dealt with this company until this year, but heard great things about it. Hope you get it resolved.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 17, 2011
7:52 AM

Post #8636119

After another try with email and phone, I've now given them a negative rating on Watchdog. First time I've ever done that. And the first really bad experience I've had with mail order in all of these years.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 24, 2011
9:11 AM

Post #8651410

Just wanted you all to know that the day after I mailed a letter to Bill, a box arrived via priority mail, containing 20 'Kathleen' jumbo caladiums along with an apologetic note from Bill and a full refund. Per his letter, he's had some medical issues for the past month and would appear that the business wasn't being looked after as well as it should have been. Seems to me though that he should have a better way of tracking orders considering I put my order in back in January.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 25, 2011
4:47 AM

Post #8653190

Cindy -- I too put my order in in January.
I've never run a business -- but it seems these were being shipped by zone -- so technically, yours should have gone out before mine... BUT -- I'm happy you got some bulbs.

I'm finding that squirrels have been digging in the one large whiskey barrel -- found one poor bulb out of the soil the other day [we do have thousands of squirrels in the park - I'm certainly not happy with them this year ] ... I do have some 'sprouts' in one pot... I just can't wait to see them unfurl.

Terese
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 25, 2011
7:30 AM

Post #8653430

I'm going to get mine into pots today. Luckily I have some premo potting soil and some empty pots (they've been waiting for the caladiums). I was going to attempt planting them in the ground but at the moment, I'm hard-pressed to find any vacant ground. I am disappointed that I didn't get any of the white varieties I had originally ordered or the double tuberose. I'm sure there's enough warm weather left in the season to get them up and growing.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

June 26, 2011
5:14 AM

Post #8655166

i got some caladiums from Fruitofthevine,just starting to fill the pot,now if I can keep them over winter ??? I need to find a spot to keep those and a few other things from freezing..
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 26, 2011
7:49 AM

Post #8655385

How long does it take for the caladiums to sprout once they're planted? I potted up half a dozen yesterday. I'm thinking I'll let mine go dormant for the winter to save on space. I have tried to over-winter store-bought plants but they were never very strong plants.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 26, 2011
10:19 AM

Post #8655638

out of all the ones i planted a week or so ago, i have one pot -- it's the smallest of the pots, i have 3 sprouts. think there is only 3 bulbs - so good sign
critters have been digging in two of the pots. hope no bulbs were stolen. but i did see growth in the one pot this morning.

i think i was reading something about 65degrees... maybe the larger pots have not gotten that warm yet.

**shrugs** i have no idea -- first yr with them.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 26, 2011
3:21 PM

Post #8656160

I did read that it's a good thing to put the bulbs in the refrigerator for a week or two before planting. I'm assuming that since there wasn't any new growth on the bulbs I received that they were probably being kept cool to inhibit growth. And I think it's going to be warmer than 65 this week (for a nice change) - pushing near 100 by Friday.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

June 27, 2011
4:41 AM

Post #8657084

what I meant was ,how to keep them after I dig them up for winter,keep them at what temp keep from freezing,have never had much luck trying to store freezable bulbs or tubers.I have dahlias this year too

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 27, 2011
5:15 AM

Post #8657124

I've read to store them in the basement. they dont like getting cold. again - something about 65degrees.
there is plenty of info if you google... i know i did when i first ordered this past winter. I plan to try to save some of them too -- save on my plant expenses for next year.

something about digging them up, letting them dry, then storing them -- i'm thinking pine shavings if i can find some. but i will again research it when it comes to digging later in the season.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 27, 2011
8:05 AM

Post #8657456

Good info. I'll have to do some searching. I'm wondering, when it's time in the fall to bring them in for storage, if they'd be treated like cannas - letting the first frost kill off the foliage before digging them up for storage.
Goldenberry
Northeast, IL
(Zone 5b)

June 27, 2011
9:30 AM

Post #8657598

I dug up and stored some caladiums last fall. Brushed off the dirt, let them dry and put them in a tray in the cool basement with a bit of dry sphagnum moss. They were coming back nicely this spring in pots until I made the mistake of planting them before the ground had warmed up enough. Only one survived. Next time I will leave them in their little pots much longer. They do take several weeks to develop leaves. I would pot them up a good 3 months before you want to set them outside.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 27, 2011
11:04 AM

Post #8657767

Getting them started early was my original plan but things didn't work out that way.
Did you somehow let the foliage die back before digging them up?
Goldenberry
Northeast, IL
(Zone 5b)

June 27, 2011
11:46 AM

Post #8657845

I did. I think it happened before we had a hard freeze. They don't like cold weather at all (as I found when I planted too early this spring!). So the foliage will die back sometime in October.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

June 27, 2011
4:48 PM

Post #8658363

Good to know. Thanks so much for the advice!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 27, 2011
7:09 PM

Post #8658670

goldenberry -- thanks for that info.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

June 28, 2011
3:46 AM

Post #8659259

good info,thanks

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 29, 2011
4:43 AM

Post #8782502

Hey Cindy -- were you happy with your bulbs ??

mine really look nice -- took some time for them all to fill out - Mid-July i think, but i'm quite pleased... i get a lot of "lookers" at my gardens.

Terese
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 29, 2011
5:58 PM

Post #8783829

I ended up planting them all in pots. Kinda sad though that I had so many of only one variety. They are growing well but then I had so many that they're really crammed into pots so the pots are practically bursting with leaves and flowers. Never did get any in the ground but I can use the pots to fill in the now-sparse spaces in the beds.
minnesippi
Oakdale, MN
(Zone 4a)

September 22, 2011
1:29 PM

Post #8819615

I got some this year also - but I bought them from Lowes. They have been in pots in full sun and are about 1.5 INCHES tall...disappointment for sure. Can I just bring them in and have them as a house plant? I am in MN.
Thanks
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 22, 2011
1:40 PM

Post #8819623

If they've been exposed to any cool temperatures outside they won't do well in the home. Anything you've experienced outside (night or day) under 60 isn't caladium friendly.

Mine from Bill (Caladiums4Less) did very well this year but they were off to a slow start with our cool spring weather this year as opposed to the early hot spring last year.

Thumbnail by pirl
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tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

September 22, 2011
5:26 PM

Post #8819936

pirl -- we've had a few COLD nights -- they got all limpy -- then i brought them in for a few days, and most perked back up again... i knew we had better weather coming... i've cut a few back ... but heck -- some still look pretty good.

I'm going to try to save the bulbs for next season... I was very happy with the bulbs I got from Bill.

terese
Goldenberry
Northeast, IL
(Zone 5b)

September 23, 2011
11:30 AM

Post #8820761

eek, it's hard to believe that very soon it will be time to lift the caladiums, brush off the dirt and store them for the winter. Next spring I won't make the mistake of setting them out too early. Also have to find a way of marking the color of the leaves, maybe photographing and printing the photo to store with the bulb.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

September 23, 2011
5:53 PM

Post #8821172

I took quite a bit of pics this summer... gonna add text to my images, and write the names on the bag, including height. that is my plan anyways...

how do you store yours?
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

October 12, 2011
3:31 PM

Post #8846620

Getting ready to lift my Caladiums. They are looking a little tired by now but they still have viable leaves. Guessing I'm going to have to let the leaves dry up after lifting and then snip them off? Does anyone dust their tubers with an antifungicide?

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

October 12, 2011
4:54 PM

Post #8846735

OH Uggg, i just remembered that mine are out back, supposedly drying -- and it's been raining the past day. *sigh* well, hopefully some mud was washed off.

OH Cindy -- I did find some of mine were already rotted in the pots. maybe a total of 5-8 of them. but i did get a lot of them ... I'm thinking of shaved Pine to store them... i will have to look into it more.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

October 13, 2011
7:57 AM

Post #8847331

I was reading up on that yesterday and the article mentioned peat moss or vermiculite. I didn't do a lot of research on Caladiums back in the spring but from what I'm reading, it's not unusual for the tubers to be smaller. Gosh, guess they'll just get smaller each year. I wasn't thinking of treating them like annuals and getting new ones each year. I was hoping to lift them today but it's been drizzling this morning. Maybe a break in the weather later this afternoon will get me out there to do that chore. I've got 5 pots of them.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

October 13, 2011
2:07 PM

Post #8847775

I'm hoping mine dont rot with all the rain we've had the past 2-3 days.
and I hear ya on the 'annuals' thing...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

October 13, 2011
2:18 PM

Post #8847801

Hmmm - don't think I'd spend the money to treat them like annuals. I had given some to a friend and she took her's indoors to winter over. I wonder if the tubers would fair any better regarding the diminishing size.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

October 13, 2011
4:01 PM

Post #8847912

I did read about over wintering them... it's said they do OK in pots indoors, but will die back in the fall, just like they do outside... it's like the bulb needs to 'rest' - but it will regrow. When i get back from my winter travels, I'm gonna get some of the smaller ones started in pots - to give them a jump on summer... Or that is the plan anyways...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

October 14, 2011
7:01 AM

Post #8848578

Because I got mine early summer, they shot up like gangbusters once I got them in pots. I'll probably let mine rest until late winter/early spring before repotting them. Never did get outdoors yesterday to lift them but definitely on the "to-do" list for tomorrow since it looks like we're in for some pretty chilly nights next week.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

November 7, 2011
7:19 AM

Post #8879960

My bulbs are now resting in vermiculite for the winter. Didn't have too much rot so maybe lost 1 or 2 at most. But gosh! They sure got a lot smaller in one season. Makes me wonder how the bulb growers develop such big tubers to begin with. Tried looking briefly online but couldn't find anything or maybe phrased my search incorrectly. Do they fertilize the heck out of them?
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

November 7, 2011
3:18 PM

Post #8880580

Had a chance to read up on how to increase the size of the Caladium bulbs. Looks like I should have added some bulb fertilizer although I also read that it's a little harder to get Caladiums to increase in size compared to other bulbs. Too late for this season but I'll have to remember next year to add fertilizer.
minnesippi
Oakdale, MN
(Zone 4a)

November 7, 2011
4:01 PM

Post #8880631

I know I pulled mine out...but for the life of me I can't remember where I put them right now...good grief! :)

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

November 7, 2011
5:15 PM

Post #8880729

I still have some Pink Gems in my front flower bed... just havent had the time to pull them. bet they are just about toast by now.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

November 7, 2011
5:22 PM

Post #8880744

We still haven't had a freeze yet but it looks like we'll get one later this week. Did anyone add fertilizer to their bulbs when they were planted back in the spring? I'm interested if the fertilizer had any effect on the size of the bulbs.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

November 7, 2011
5:49 PM

Post #8880770

nope -- not me.

and we've had light frosts.. these are in the front bed, so I dont think any frost has hit them yet... only plants not protected by the house.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

March 8, 2012
1:05 PM

Post #9034853

Pleased to report that I placed my order with Bill late in October and my bulbs arrived today. I start them indoors, which is why they came so early. They don't go outdoors till May, based on weather temps.

Bill carefully watched the weather forecast so that the bulbs would be safe in shipment. They were well packed, and the shipment contained extra bulbs.

I can't wait to get them into pots for this weekend.
minnesippi
Oakdale, MN
(Zone 4a)

March 11, 2012
6:58 PM

Post #9038730

I picked some up at Menards this weekend...along with a few cana and some cala lilies for my urns.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 12, 2012
7:19 AM

Post #9039253

Your posts have reminded me to dig out the Caladiums I stored last fall. The bulbs from Bill greatly diminished in size over the growing season last year so I'll have to see what's survived the storage and what's going to be of a size worth growing.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 12, 2012
2:22 PM

Post #9039877

I too will have to get out the bag and see what's in there.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 12, 2012
3:06 PM

Post #9039941

And I have to remember to add fertilizer to them this time!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 12, 2012
3:15 PM

Post #9039954

do you recall what type? 5/5/5 or 15/15/15 ??
minnesippi
Oakdale, MN
(Zone 4a)

March 12, 2012
6:55 PM

Post #9040262

I lost mine from last year...like I dont know where they are lost them, not they died lost them. So I bought more :)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 13, 2012
6:45 AM

Post #9040805

I seem to remember the article mentioning "bulb fertilizer". I was wondering if they meant the traditional bone meal used for bulbs but I kinda doubt it. Have never used bulb fertilizer so will have to look into that. I seem to recollect seeing bags of the stuff at garden centers though.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 13, 2012
7:03 AM

Post #9040820

I used the fertilizer Bill sells. This year I forgot so I'll use Osmocote 11-11-11 with our own compost on top.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 13, 2012
7:04 AM

Post #9040821

thanks pirl.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 13, 2012
2:49 PM

Post #9041453

Thanks for the info, Pirl. Sounds like a balanced fertilizer is in order.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 26, 2012
3:45 PM

Post #9058104

Dug out my poor pathetic Caladium bulbs. Some of them shriveled to almost nothing during storage. Rather than plant up individual pots of what I hope are viable, I put them all in an old Tupperware cake saver top, sitting on the vermiculite they were stored in but covered with some really good potting soil. I'll see which ones actually sprout before potting them up or planting them out.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

March 26, 2012
4:01 PM

Post #9058122

Cindy, they have a better shot if you stored them in a warm area. If you pot them up together and it is warm enough, they'll give you a nice display. If you don't keep them above 60 degrees, don't be surprised if they rot.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 27, 2012
6:40 AM

Post #9058878

They were definitely kept warm all winter, stored in my heated, crowded garage rather than the cooler greenhouse. Dunno - maybe they're more dessicated than rotted.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 27, 2012
7:02 AM

Post #9058903

For all the times I've tried to hold them over winter, they never did well. I hope that's of some consolation to you. Now I don't even spend the time digging, cleaning and storing. Dahlias are enough work.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

March 27, 2012
7:44 AM

Post #9058948

Mine were in pots all winter and we kept them watered. They have gone through their dormancy and are already growing beautifully indoors. If it doesn't permanently warm up soon, there will be no place to walk in my office.

Pirl, my dad did a wonderful job storing dahlias from year to year. I can never quite do it right time-wise.

By the way, I have only killed half of the coleus plants.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 27, 2012
7:48 AM

Post #9058956

This has been my best winter for coleuses and I credit it to watering very seldom. All are in cool spots so that must have helped.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

March 27, 2012
8:01 AM

Post #9058969

I did the same, but probably should have watered a little more often. The twist and twirls did ok, but the fishnet stockings and a fern leaf have almost bitten the dust. I was negligent in ignoring them.

Without a doubt it's a lot to keep up with summer, fall, winter and spring. Also, I did better when I was single!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 27, 2012
9:42 AM

Post #9059111

We had a discussion about Fishnet Stockings awhile back on the Coleus Forum. It seems that for many of us it is doomed from the start.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

March 27, 2012
1:36 PM

Post #9059425

Thanks. Sort of glad to hear that.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 27, 2012
2:23 PM

Post #9059493

I've been tempted by dahlias. Is there a tuber-type and a non-tuber type?
Have a Coleus that looks similar to 'Fishnet Stockings' but the stems are inky, the leaf is rounder and has more substance. And it gets big. It's pretty stocky as well. Don't have the name though.
I'm glad I didn't spend a lot of time potting up those Caladium yesterday. If a few sprout, I'll be happy.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 27, 2012
6:36 PM

Post #9059766

Dahlias are tubers but you can grow them from seed. By the end of the season they will have tubers.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 28, 2012
7:21 AM

Post #9060226

Ahhhh - thanks for the info. I knew there were tubers but also knew you could buy them in packs.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 28, 2012
7:38 AM

Post #9060260

Even the ones sold in small pots end up developing full sized tubers by digging time.

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 28, 2012
2:28 PM

Post #9060797

I'll have to give that a try. Have done cannas before but haven't attempted Dahlias or tuberous begonias. Don't know if my attempt at caladiums count for much experience.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 28, 2012
6:26 PM

Post #9061153

Tuberous begonias are easy. Give them a try.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 29, 2012
6:44 AM

Post #9061608

Definitely!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 29, 2012
7:20 AM

Post #9061641

Has anyone seen a Co-Op for Bill's this year??
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
7:24 AM

Post #9061651

It took place back in January, sorry! Keep checking Classified Ads since he has posted offers in May and June in former years.

Edited to add: it wasn't a co-op but an ad with a special DG discount.

This message was edited Mar 29, 2012 10:25 AM

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 29, 2012
7:32 AM

Post #9061663

thanks Pirl... i was out of town and missed it. *sniff*

I guess I will make due with the ones I stored over the winter... hope they produce... but not holding out too much hope that they will be as nice as last year.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
7:38 AM

Post #9061677

Sorry! There were several threads about Bill's caladiums at the time of the sale.

You can always go to his site and buy them directly.

http://www.caladiumbulbs4less.com/servlet/StoreFront

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 29, 2012
7:57 AM

Post #9061698

yea.. i know... was on there this morning.

I just need to take the time to find what i "dont need"
I dont have a lot of 'free' pots at home here, so i may have to wait til i get to Wisc in a few weeks to get the stored bulbs back in the soil.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 29, 2012
12:53 PM

Post #9062122

oh Pirl... i found one. 10% off. gonna go "window shopping".
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
2:44 PM

Post #9062243

They're the most color and least care you can get for the money. I rely heavily on them so I don't have to face buying a lot of annuals that would need deadheading. They are SO easy to plant!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 29, 2012
6:02 PM

Post #9062460

i've noticed the grade 2 bulbs are smaller and cheaper...

is it worth getting the smaller one [more for the $$]
or is it not worth it because the plants will be smaller / less leaves ??
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
6:24 PM

Post #9062503

Fewer leaves but for the volume of bulbs it just might not matter to you. Of course you could do a comparison test so you'd know for the future and buy a bag of #1 or even a bag of the huge ones.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

March 29, 2012
8:11 PM

Post #9062669

for fertilizer -- has anyone bought Bill's mix, or do you just get some from the store... and what's a good ratio?

gonna google it now...

looks like a 6 | 6 | 6 or 8 | 8 | 8.

This message was edited Mar 29, 2012 10:12 PM
Goldenberry
Northeast, IL
(Zone 5b)

March 30, 2012
9:11 AM

Post #9063132

Finally! Three of the eight pots of caladium bulbs I dug up last fall are showing signs of life. Two + weeks after potting them up. Some of the bulbs were pretty small but I potted them anyway. I was not certain any of them were still alive. I tossed them onto a cardboard piece in a corner of the basement for the winter, and they looked pretty shriveled before planting. Now to hope that fungus, over- or underwatering doesn't do them in. ;)

This year they will stay indoors until Memorial Day weekend. Last spring, I set them out too soon and they did not like that at all.

Also bought a few new caladium bulbs: two packs of 3 size 1s, nice and large; and a pack of 16 size 2s, much smaller. The sizes are according to the packages. Got 'em at Home Depot so not a big outlay of $. They were planted in pots last weekend, still no sign of leaf buds.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 30, 2012
5:12 PM

Post #9063644

Goldenberry - nice to know there's still hope for my shriveled bulbs.
Goldenberry
Northeast, IL
(Zone 5b)

April 2, 2012
11:12 AM

Post #9066930

Never give up, Cindy! Isn't that our rallying cry as gardeners? :D

CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 2, 2012
4:53 PM

Post #9067387

Absolutely right!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 14, 2012
7:34 PM

Post #9205440

the bulbs I saves from last year, and planted in the ground in mid june, are finally peeking up.
not sure how many made it, and they are about half the size as last year... but they are popping up.
there are a few that are in a rail planter that have started to open, the rest are just breaking soil.

hopefully i;ll get some pics this summer.

my new ones -- the White Queen is open, about half the bulbs...

with such a weird year this year, I was not sure what to expect. but last year this time, mine were all up and looking stunning... i'm still waiting for that.

I have also found... the ones in the ground are weeks behind the ones in pots.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 14, 2012
9:06 PM

Post #9205503

We got a lot of surprises as a result of the weird winter with a lot of bulbs that don't usually make it. Caladiums are tropical plants The soil needs to be at least 60 degrees at night for them. It takes too long for my soil to warm up, so I start them indoors in containers. Even the ones I started outdoors are in containers. My White Queens are almost all red.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2012
5:37 AM

Post #9205661

tcs - I've found the exact same thing: those in the ground have been slow to emerge while those in containers have done very well but it took time. Those in two shady window boxes have been the slowest.

Marcia - I wonder why your White Queens are almost all red. Any thoughts on that?
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

July 15, 2012
6:32 AM

Post #9205700

I had given up on last year's bulbs after trying to get them started indoors (nada after 6 weeks) and I threw them in the compost pile. Two weeks ago I was sifting compost and noticed some caladium sprouts. Did rescue them and planted them in the ground - probably cooler for their roots than planting in pots. Somehow I ended up with a white/green one when all of the ones I got last year were pink/green.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 15, 2012
4:49 PM

Post #9206342

Pirl, I know why they're red—full/part sun. Half of the caladiums have been moved to an area where they get morning sun. I put the White Queens, which often have red and dark pink veins in a very large container with a Shanghai Heuchera in the Center. I've rolled them a bit to an area where they get less sun, but the container is very heavy even with a false bottom. I'll try to post a photo (having lots of computer problems).

On the plus side, they look lovely at the edge of the driveway. Just next to them with a bit more shade are Miss Muffett and Brandywine. To boost curb appeal, I lined the driveway edge in the front with containers. At the other side are Gingerland and Fannie Munson, together with multiple containers of Coleus and Ipomoea Batabas. The lovely sedum you suggested last year is just blushing with light color on the tips of the buds. The sedum in the back yard seems to be the victim of another night visitor (Bambi?).
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2012
5:31 PM

Post #9206401

Oh, Bambi and family love sedums, Marcia. Odd how they will eat one down to a foot tall but leave the identical same cultivar a few feet away. So the heuchera is happy in morning sun? The heuchera I have all seem to prefer morning sun and only Chocolate Ruffles, Palace Purple and one other one (name escapes me) can tolerate more sun.

Your driveway must look lovely with all the various containers. Caladium and coleus are so much easier than flowers - not much deadheading to do and in this heat (and the heat to come this week), it's a very good thing as Martha would say.

I do find it amusing that we both love the veins that show up on so many caladium but probably not what may show up on our own legs!

1. Stardust is delightful - early morning sun only.
2. White Christmas is stunning in almost all day sun.
3. Florida Fantasy goes so nicely with the red impatiens but with this heat they need water daily - all day sun.

All were leftovers from a sweet friend who sent them to me.

Did you hear impatiens have developed a mildew that may be the end of them in America? They are already banned in England.

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

July 16, 2012
7:26 AM

Post #9206993

Wow - tell me more about the impatiens mildew. That's my main summer annual in the shade.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 16, 2012
8:18 AM

Post #9207061

i have it on my Peony.

2nd yr in a row. I just cut it all back.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2012
9:14 AM

Post #9207140

Cindy - John van Bourgondien is one of our neighbors and we were at a party together on Saturday. His father was the founder of van Bourgondien's Nursery (bulbs) in America. He knows all the inside stuff on plants and he's the one who told me about it. All plants are being destroyed, hence there will be no seeds for next year. Inspectors are going from nursery to nursery inspecting and if even one is found to have the mildew then all plants must be destroyed. One nursery in Virginia lost 17,000 plants.
Goldenberry
Northeast, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 16, 2012
9:37 AM

Post #9207182

How sad about impatiens mildew! The area where I live has so many mature trees and so much shade that they are a garden staple. Personally, I prefer begonias because they don't droop so badly in the heat of summer (and boy, have we had plenty of heat!!!). But to think that impatiens could be banned altogether is awful.

Sorry for the lack of photos (am at work and haven't taken any pics lately) but a caladium update is in order: Most of the bulbs I saved from last year did eventually sprout and are going strong. It certainly required a lot of patience, however. The new ones I bought in a big package were equally slow to grow. They are so nice to have, in a year when many flowers bloomed and faded early. Caladiums and coleus are keeping my garden looking alive this summer.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2012
9:58 AM

Post #9207208

Sorry to be the bearer of the bad news on impatiens. Read this for more details:
http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?pid=205
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

July 16, 2012
1:52 PM

Post #9207580

I did read this morning that it's quite a problem in FL as well. Hope they come up with a remedy or at least some shade bedding plant replacements. Mine are taking a beating this summer but it's a wilting thing. One bed that has traditionally been planted with them is now getting too much hot sun since I took out my trees last year. Will have to plant something different there next year. Browallia - another of my shade favorites - takes forever to bloom from seed so while I do grow some, they're not my main bedding plant.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 16, 2012
3:26 PM

Post #9207685

Tcs, the mildew stuff you see on peonies is to be expected, and it is not a problem. Take a look at the peony forum for more info.

Pirl, Bambi struck again, and I lost 4 tomatoes, the best one left half eaten on the ground. I was told to try deer scram granules.

I've added the White Queen caladium photo. You'll see a couple of white caladium leaves. This package was from Sams, so I wasn't surprised to find something that did not belong. The Shanghai Heuchera is in the center, but I'll put it elsewhere after this season. You can see Miss Muffett at the edge. She is in more shade or becomes blanched.

I planted all the indoor bulbs, which is most of them, around the same time. However, they did not sprout and grow at the same time. Some were in the same container, that is, I planted Miss Muffett bulbs with Brandywines. Miss Muffett sprouted long before the Brandywine caladiums. Gingerland seemed to take a while, but not as long as the Brandywines. The varieties grow when they want to. So, if it is taking a long time for your caladium plants to grow, be patient and have faith; it may be a smaller bulb or a variety that is a later bloomer. If my understanding is correct, the bulbs need at good 6-8 weeks or more to rejuvenate and grow again. If your plants did not die down as early, they started their dormancy period later.

The reason my caladium plants wintered so well is that I did not pull them at all. Grown in containers, I just brought them into my office for the winter and kept them watered. They died down when they were ready, went dormant and restarted their growth. When I first started planting indoors, I was fairly certain that they would not grow, but eventually was pleasantly surprised by the miracle.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2012
5:36 PM

Post #9207869

We used to use only impatiens for our rear garage window boxes but this year I decided to try caladiums. They were slow to take off but they're finally showing some color. It will still be awhile before they look as good as the impatiens did by July.

Marcia - Bambi is no longer adorable/sweet or innocent! We bought the huge container of Deer Scram and it didn't work for us. It's not just spreading it around your property but in lines 3 or 4' apart for the entire area.

Your caladiums look fine. Miss Muffet looks a bit bleached even under the best of shady conditions. I don't put mine in pots - just a few. Maybe I will try bringing some in this September. Thanks for the good advice.
Goldenberry
Northeast, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 17, 2012
7:58 AM

Post #9208630

Cathy, thank you for saving me a lot of work this coming autumn. I planted ALL my caladiums in pots this year. Now I can just leave them in those pots, bring them down to the basement and put them under grow lights at some point.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 17, 2012
11:40 AM

Post #9208965

As long as it doesn't go below 60 degrees, you'll be great. You'll have them until they're ready to go into dormancy. As you keep watering them while they're in dormancy, you'll see them start growing again.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 17, 2012
12:08 PM

Post #9208983

Do you water all winter, Marcia, or starting in March/April?
minnesippi
Oakdale, MN
(Zone 4a)

July 17, 2012
1:00 PM

Post #9209033

they have to stay above 60°? My garage stays about 50° :(
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 17, 2012
2:37 PM

Post #9209202

Yes, they are tropical and do want warm temperatures. Maybe you could box them up and wrap the box with a huge plastic bag?
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 17, 2012
3:45 PM

Post #9209297

I water them in dormancy just a bit. I don't let them get dry. And yes, it does look sad to water dirt. When they are in dormancy, they can be stacked without shame.

I work in the office every day, and the equipment in the office keeps it warm. The shop light is on every day.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 17, 2012
5:42 PM

Post #9209427

Similar to zonal geraniums then. I can deal with that. Thanks, Marcia.

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