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Texas Gardening: Datura Jimson Weed

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Dogs_N_Petunias
Cleburne, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
7:24 PM

Post #8548718

I started this plant from seed received in the Texas native plant seed exchange/give-away. It has just been thrilling to watch this beautiful flower open this evening. DH (LEW_TEX) took the photos.

Photo #1 - Not quite all the way open.
Dogs_N_Petunias
Cleburne, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
7:26 PM

Post #8548721

We were lucky that the wind had calmed for a little while so we could get some pretty good shots.

Photo #2
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 8, 2011
7:29 PM

Post #8548732

I have a couple plants that I got in the RU last fall and overwintered but they are just now making buds. What a lovely flower, was the smell nice also?
Dogs_N_Petunias
Cleburne, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
7:37 PM

Post #8548765

I did not notice a smell but the wind probably blew it away ! The flower is absolutely huge.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 8, 2011
7:48 PM

Post #8548809

They usually smell very nice, hopefully a lot more flowers will follow.
Dogs_N_Petunias
Cleburne, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
7:50 PM

Post #8548817

Yes, it has four more buds in different stages of development.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
7:54 PM

Post #8548825

They are really gorgeous, such a trill to watch them open!! The hummingbird moths will be coming to them at night, we used to go out with a flashlight to see them, so much fun!!!
Josephine.
Dogs_N_Petunias
Cleburne, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
8:26 PM

Post #8548896

Larry may be out there all night taking pictures. LOL. This was the last one.

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2011
9:16 PM

Post #8548936

I love the softness of the petal. Watch out early in the morning for bees, they love them too. I didn't get seeds to set at first, so I was helping the polenation along and almost got stung poking my fingers into the flowers. LOL!
Nia3
NE, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
5:01 AM

Post #8549174

Beautiful! So glad you posted this as I just bought a Datura at a native plant sale on Saturday!
Any special tips I should know before planting it? I noticed the PlantFiles have it listed as an annual here but my info says it will be a perennial.
I am thinking of a full sun spot for a moonlight garden.
Any suggestions will be welcome.
Thanks!

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
5:49 AM

Post #8549245

I look at the Datura Wrightii, Jimsonweed I have as a hardy annual. Most years it will come back without problem, but ever now and again I will loose one. http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=DAWR2
Careful when touching the plant to wash your hands afterwards since all parts of the plant are toxic. My animals have never had a problem nor I but I am careful not to rub my eyes, etc. when I am out in the garden.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 9, 2011
6:06 AM

Post #8549289

I think it is like Sheila said, good years a perennial, cold perhaps not. I got a couple fancy purple from someone at the fall RU and overwintered them in the house. One is about to bloom the other is just starting to grow back after breaking off. My two natives will bloom soon. I had some brugs last year but the squash beatles ate the flowers. I am hoping they don't like Daturas.
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 9, 2011
1:45 PM

Post #8550323

Dont harvest your garden veggies or chop up a salad after touching Jimson weed without a good handwashing. It will make you very sick and the doc's may take a while to figure out what caused your symptoms.

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
3:56 PM

Post #8550592

Sounds like you are speaking from experience Marty.
bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
7:23 PM

Post #8551166

I got some annual ones as left overs from the plant sale. I don't know too much about these, but I think I got a good deal. It is a delightful bloom!
Nia3
NE, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
7:28 PM

Post #8551171

Thanks for your replies. The local native plant society gave a short, informative presentation before the sale and did mention how poisonous these plants are. I will be careful.
After seeing photos of the plants, I just had to have one. Now, after doing a little research, I'm afraid the bed I was going to put it in doesn't receive enough sun, just morning until about noon.
If that's the case, I guess I need another flower bed (grins.)
Any suggestions for a full sun, all white moonlight garden?
Maybe a white crape myrtle off to one side?

Thanks,
Nia
bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
7:46 PM

Post #8551219

I had a white flower corner for a while.It included white salvia nemorosa. It blooms early and keeps on all summer. Loves the full sun. White yarrow...be careful it spreads easily, white wine cups, white cone flower and white/green striped large grass.
BrandonSivek
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 9, 2011
8:21 PM

Post #8551278

Here is a picture of mine as it is tonight. This is one plant and it is HUGE! I have it in a spot where it really only gets about 5 hours of afternoon sun. This is the same plant that came back from last year, and it got down to 20 degrees this past winter. Its blooms never let me down.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
8:48 PM

Post #8551325

Well, I just had to brag about my Datura, this one was growing in the flower bed that tend at my church where I planted it.
I couldn't believe it I think it had 60 or more blooms on it, it was amazing!!!
Josephine.
BrandonSivek
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9a)

May 9, 2011
9:03 PM

Post #8551349

LMAO, what a SHOW OFF! You just had to throw me under the bus like that didnt you. ;) VERY beautiful, thank you for sharing that!

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 9, 2011
10:42 PM

Post #8551439

LOL!!!! ROFLOL!!!! Too funny! Yep, Josephine is the native guru.

I have had one that did very well in morning to noon sun. The evening blooms opened quicker I think also.
Dogs_N_Petunias
Cleburne, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2011
2:35 AM

Post #8551529

Oh, wow! Guess we will have more Datura here now that I see the possibilities. I only got around to planting out the one I posted photos of and have had two seedlings that have languished in their little pot. Was thinking of taking them to the RU but now they are going in the ground today !!! And will probably start some more seed.

Thanks for sharing your beautiful photos, Brandon and Josephine.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 10, 2011
3:29 AM

Post #8551560

I didn't know it got that big! I didn't give it nearly enough room.
Nia3
NE, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2011
5:02 AM

Post #8551667

Thanks so much for sharing your ideas and pics!
Bananna, I love the white suggestions!
It seems I have more options than originally thought... hmmm.
Going to think on this a little more.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2011
5:08 AM

Post #8551673

Well, that was the biggest I have ever seen, actually I don't know why it got so big because i didn't do anything special, dumb luck I guess.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 10, 2011
7:32 AM

Post #8551935

I have 2 in the kitchen sink bed and they will get trimmed if they get much larger than they are now.

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2011
7:48 AM

Post #8551968

They don't mind being cut back several times...they just put out new growth and get fuller. They can spread out if you let them.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

May 10, 2011
8:00 AM

Post #8551996

I love the datura pics!
One thing that confuses me, what is the difference between D. inoxia and wrightii?

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2011
8:03 AM

Post #8552005

Josephine would be the one to answer with authority, but I think it is the leaves. Some pictures in PlantFiles however have both I think. Also the seed pot of the inoxia is oval and wrightii is round. But don't take my word...let Josephine tell us.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 10, 2011
8:10 AM

Post #8552022

They do look similar.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2011
10:57 AM

Post #8552337

Well, here is a long explanation, if you scroll to where it says similar species it will tell you the differences which are small, bur Datura wrightii is the one native to Texas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_inoxia#Similar_species
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_wrightii
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

May 10, 2011
4:43 PM

Post #8553188

Thank you, Josephine. How interesting! I don't know I would have noticed the subtle differences on my own. cool.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 12, 2011
5:29 PM

Post #8558817

I got several native and non-native datura seedlings last fall that I overwintered under lights in the house. Here is the first to bloom, not wrightii but man its pretty. I hope I get some seedlings to bring in this fall.
Dogs_N_Petunias
Cleburne, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 12, 2011
5:42 PM

Post #8558853

Wow, Cheryl, that's beautiful !! Please post photo when it opens.

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 12, 2011
6:25 PM

Post #8558960

Very pretty Cheryl. I had one but I think it was over powered by too much shade.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 12, 2011
6:28 PM

Post #8558971

I got a couple seedlings and some seed from someone at the fall RU. I will have to look and see who to thank. I didn't plant the seeds but now I might try them. I have yellow and other types of purple. That plant is in pretty much full sun with way too much water and rich soil.
C

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 12, 2011
6:50 PM

Post #8559022

Yes, they are all beautiful!!!
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 13, 2011
5:51 PM

Post #8561298

strange looking inside
bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 13, 2011
7:07 PM

Post #8561493

I know that Anita, my friend who came to the fall RU, has lots of datura. Maybe it was from her.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

May 22, 2011
8:11 AM

Post #8579284

A double purple enjoying the cloudy morning.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 22, 2011
10:15 AM

Post #8579487

Gorgeous!!!!
bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 22, 2011
4:15 PM

Post #8580219

Wow!

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

May 23, 2011
5:48 AM

Post #8581326

That is really a beauty Cheryl!
Gypsi
Fort Worth, TX

January 19, 2013
7:15 PM

Post #9390722

Wow, I didn't realize Datura was Jimson weed. Oh my!
grits74571
Talihina, OK

February 9, 2013
5:28 AM

Post #9412858

The small book we discussed here a couple of years ago Wicked Weeds has a cool article on the Jimson weed that mentions the role they played in our country's history
grits74571
Talihina, OK

February 12, 2013
5:15 AM

Post #9416369

I planted some seeds of the 2x purple last summer and it was late in the season so it didn't bloom until it was due to frost so I put on the back porch and it bloomed until the hard freeze ,I then moved the container outside and covered with a huge pile of trimmings from the Clematis ..Now I am just waiting and hoping that it survived the winter ..It did not produce any seeds so I can only hope it survives...

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