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Badgertalk
Nashville, TN
(Zone 6a)

May 21, 2011
2:22 PM

Post #8577928

I have a bed I want to set - it has Bermuda grass and some other problems. I was going to reset it earlier but the weird spring weather intervened.

There are a variety of perennials and about 20 lilies that will need to be thinned a little this fall.
The lilies are in bud and some are starting to turn colors.

I don't want to wait until itís too hot. But I also don't want to off my lilies. I'd like to do it now because the bed looks so terrible.

If I reset them now and keep them watered and use some root stimulator, can a reset them now without a problem?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 22, 2011
1:32 AM

Post #8578789

I am not an expert and couldnt say definatly if that is a good idea or not.
I have been in an emergency situation like you and have relocated blooming lilies. Many times they go right on as nothing happened. Sometimes they take a year off after blooming that year.
Use a fork when lifting. I have killed bulbs with a spade. At least with a fork you give the bulb an even chance.
Many times the shoot doesnt rise straight out of the bulb so you never can tell where the bulb is assuming its straight down from where the stem comes out of the ground.
I would wait for jmorth or Moby oe someone else to give a more informed answer.Its 4AM here.
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 22, 2011
7:30 AM

Post #8579239

Badgertalk,

Ge gave you great advice about using a fork. And yes, put the fork in at an angle several inches from the bulb, because Ge is definitely right about that too! The idea is to make the fork function like a lever and take a clump of soil with the bulb.

But I can also help you. I have been moving lily bulbs into pots. Most of them were budded, but not blooming, and some are over a foot tall. As long as you lift the entire bulb (take some soil along) they will continue to develop. Some of them sat in my car overnight. I brought over a Silk Road that was one foot tall. It's now 2 feet tall and budded.

Donna

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 22, 2011
7:38 AM

Post #8579254

Thanks for the complete info on lifting bulbs. Definatly needed to know about the angle and dirt clump.
Badgertalk
Nashville, TN
(Zone 6a)

May 22, 2011
8:16 AM

Post #8579296

Another factor - the house next to me has been on the market for almost two years and it was just purchased. The bed that looks wrecked sits next to the patio of the of the house next door so my new neighbors are looking at it every time they grill and hang out on the patio. They grill all the time.

If I lift the bed, I'll do it this week. I'll let everyone know how it turns outs.

Thanks for the crooked plant advice - I will dig carefully.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 22, 2011
8:28 AM

Post #8579323

Good luck. Sounds like you are on the right track.
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 22, 2011
8:37 AM

Post #8579334

And how nice of you to consider your new neighbors! So few people do. It should get your relationship with them off to a good start.
Moby
Lincoln, NE
(Zone 5b)

May 24, 2011
6:25 AM

Post #8583942

Hi Badger,

When moving growing lilies, it's a good idea to prepare its new location ahead of time to minimize the roots' exposure to air. Normally using a fork is fine but in this case I prefer a shovel so the soil won't be as disturbed. Use a small shovel or hand spade to remove soil around the clump so you can get the big shovel in the trench and well under the bulbs. Once in their new home, water them in well. (I like to backfill enough to cover the bulb, water, then backfill to ground-level and water again) They shouldn't need any more supplemental water after this like most transplants would.

You might consider giving them support for about a while if you think they look wobbly. I sometimes use those cheap bamboo sticks that come several in a package for a few bucks.

Now ~ worst case scenario ~ if you break a stem away from the bulb, plant it anyway. Plant the stem where you can give it lots of extra water since it's those fine stem roots that feed the stem and blooms for the year. It really can work, I managed to keep an 8 ft. henryi stem alive through blooming. :)

Good luck!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 24, 2011
6:46 AM

Post #8583983

Done that too Moby.
Its amazing how forgiving lilies are.
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 24, 2011
7:03 AM

Post #8584008

Mar, I really like your watering advice, and I'll definitely use it in the future. And I agree with you about the bamboo stick trick!


Badger, if by any chance you can't prepare a trench for immediate removal, you can pop the into any pot that you have available that will accommodate the root system. If you have any small pots - plastic or terra cotta - pop some compost or potting soil in it, transfer the lily to it, and give it some water. I have just done quite a few of these in the last few weeks. They will actually continue to develop in the pot. Then you can transfer them to their final home. I actually did this, put them in my car, and when I finally planted them two days later the buds had continued to develop.

Forgiving little devils indeed!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 24, 2011
7:08 AM

Post #8584020

Theme from Jaws in the background.
Moby
Lincoln, NE
(Zone 5b)

May 24, 2011
7:33 AM

Post #8584051

LOL That's the trick ~ keeping a gob of soil around the roots and they won't even bat an eye. And a well hydrated plant always makes the trasition easier.
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 24, 2011
7:57 AM

Post #8584108

LOL indeed!
OCCAROL
Santa Ana, CA
(Zone 10b)

May 25, 2011
4:47 PM

Post #8587139

Will this advice be good for after bloom, as well? I never expected Triumphator to be over 6' tall, and multiply like a bunny. I don't want to try to move it until it's neighboring lilies have had a chance to bloom. From what I've read here, I probably shouldn't try to divide it until it's dormant?
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 25, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8587502

Hello OCC,

Once the foliage yellows the lily has had a chance to replenish itself. At that point it is safe to divide it. Doing so earlier will diminish its vigor (although it sounds like it needs some taming). Unfortunately (?) dividing it will only free it to throw wild parties and drink in the open area you move it to, and multiply further. The same thing happened to me with Silver Sunburst. Frankly, my solution was to give away at least nine bulbs (I started with 3!)

Donna
OCCAROL
Santa Ana, CA
(Zone 10b)

May 25, 2011
7:30 PM

Post #8587544

Ha! That is my plan!
Moby
Lincoln, NE
(Zone 5b)

May 25, 2011
8:40 PM

Post #8587649

OCC ~ it's always best to move bulbs when they are dormant in the fall. These "special care" instructions are for those times when it's an emergency of sorts. If you lose the stem this early in the season then the bulb won't have time to build energy stores for next year.
OCCAROL
Santa Ana, CA
(Zone 10b)

May 26, 2011
6:24 AM

Post #8588071

Thanks!
Badgertalk
Nashville, TN
(Zone 6a)

June 3, 2011
5:53 PM

Post #8606965

I had a talk with my new neighbors. They don't think the bed looks that bad. It does look better from their side but it could still use some work. I showed them the wood I have to rebuild the bed. I'm going to make it about a third narrower but its going from about 4 inches high to about 16 inches high. I have some really neat deck wood. They are good with it being done this fall.

Thanks all for the advice. Its supposed to be 96 on Sat. so Fall sounds good to me.

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