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gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 21, 2011
4:11 PM

Post #8578090

I have been trying for almost 2 years to get a single bloom on a Ky Rambler plant--nothing.
Now I have this gorgeous variegated plant, almost willing to forgive it for not blooming.
Can anybody suggest something that might make it flower?

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Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

May 21, 2011
7:35 PM

Post #8578452

What size pot is it in? Has it been potted up lately? Don't forget that AV's like to be rootbound, and generally will not start to bloom until the roots start touching the sides of the pot. I am having the same sort of issues with a Rob's Sticky Wicket. I've had it in a 7" pan pot (not really a pot, but it is a shallow 7" dish that I put holes in), but it has not bloomed for over a year. Driving me nuts!
gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 21, 2011
8:48 PM

Post #8578579

This plant is in a 4' azalea pot. When I have tried to use anything smaller or more shallow I have lost the plant. I am aware of the need for bound roots; am debating cutting the lower part of the rootball off to give some new mix in same pot, but wonder if that would not work against blooms since roots would need to grow into new mix.
wiggiej
Ann Arbor, MI

May 22, 2011
9:46 AM

Post #8579438

Gorgeous variegation. Have you tried threatening it? :)

wiggiej
Ann Arbor, MI

May 22, 2011
9:50 AM

Post #8579447

Actually that was a joke, but after I pushed send it got me thinking ... I have no idea if this applies to violets, but I do know that other types of plant that I grow will sometimes bloom when they are stressed. Is it possible that life is a bit too good for this beauty? I'm betting that you take absolutely meticulous care of it.

Come to think of it, isn't this precisely what's going on when a plant is rootbound (i.e. a form of stress) ?

Jan

Roly0217

Roly0217
Miami, FL
(Zone 10b)

May 22, 2011
10:07 AM

Post #8579469

I absolutely love your plant wether it has blooms or not. What color are the blooms supposed to be??? I bet that once it blooms it will be a show stopper.
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

May 22, 2011
10:09 AM

Post #8579475

"stressing" a plant has been known to work . . . some people thump the sides of the pot, others let it drop a few inches onto a table . . . something that will put it into survival mode - if it feels it's life is threatened, it will attempt to reproduce in order to keep the species alive.
luciee
Hanceville, AL
(Zone 7a)

May 22, 2011
1:01 PM

Post #8579809

I agree with Jan. Try ignoring it. Luciee
gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 23, 2011
5:33 AM

Post #8581303

HaHa!!

I subscribe to the threatening theory!

I have tried growing this variety (multiple plants) under many conditions.

I have starved it; let it nearly die from lack of water, thumped the pot, dropped the pot. I have even made it watch as I dumped its sibling into the trash; giving it a stern warning that I was tired of its misbehavior and it was going to be next.

Want to know what it said?

"Yeah, right, okay." then went about its own business, putting on plenty suckers but absolutely no blooms. (They are a single pink/lavender, I think)

(Seriously, a grower on another forum says she has successfully gotten blooms on the Kentucky variegates by growing under extra humid conditions, low light . I am going to try that for a few weeks. I fully expect to loose variegation as the heat of summer comes on--we'll see and I'll keep you posted.)

Lane

BTW, Jan, down here we whip fruit trees to make them produce!!!

We are one mean bunch of rednecked son...you get the picture!

This message was edited May 23, 2011 7:37 AM

helenethequeen

helenethequeen
Longboat Key, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 23, 2011
7:32 AM

Post #8581610

beautiful plant, worth keeping. try orchid food.or beastie bloomz (people will condemn me for this suggestion) but it works.
gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 23, 2011
8:43 AM

Post #8581776

Helene, I constant water with orchid fert and occasionally with fish emulsion fert.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

May 23, 2011
9:02 AM

Post #8581798

I know what you mean, Helene. I sometimes use Schultz Bloom Boost 10-54-10 (!) on stubborn plants and MiracleGro Tomato Fertilizer 10-12-10 (I believe) most of the time. Of course 1/4 strength on constant feed. Using Bloom Boost with its insanely high Phosphorous content has raised quite a few eyebrows but it works for me - on all my plants, even on the 2 Orchids that I'm growing...

helenethequeen

helenethequeen
Longboat Key, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 23, 2011
12:40 PM

Post #8582270

I dont use it but my daughter step son puts it on her plants whenever he comes and boy do they bloom he sneaks this action because he knows she doesn't like it. Mine are in such a good sun position that I hardly use anything. Oh the other thing would be to try superthrieve
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

May 23, 2011
2:27 PM

Post #8582504

I have never used Superthrive but lateley I've been hearing a lot of success stories concerning it. I'll have to try it myself, I guess...
luciee
Hanceville, AL
(Zone 7a)

May 23, 2011
6:07 PM

Post #8582940

gessie, are you sure it is an AV and not a cat?

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gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

May 23, 2011
6:30 PM

Post #8583009

luciee,

I guess you have reference to my conversation with the plant.

How did you know I also talk to my cat, Sugarbritches. She also answers "Yeah, right, okay." then goes about her own business

In fact, she belly laughs at my weak position. I had just threatened her when this photo was shot..

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luciee
Hanceville, AL
(Zone 7a)

May 24, 2011
4:54 AM

Post #8583769

Pretty cat, my dau. used to have a big orange. Looked somewhat like this one. Luciee {;^)
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 23, 2012
1:51 PM

Post #9017372

I am curious to find out if this plant ever bloomed and if so what you did to make it happen.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 24, 2012
6:46 AM

Post #9018121

Me too! The leaves are gorgeous. Maybe you could find some artificial flowers that are small, and stick a few in the plant. It may get jealous and send up some buds. LOL
gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

February 27, 2012
12:28 PM

Post #9022136

Nope! the stubborn thing just continues to do its own thing--which is fill a pot with runners and not one bloom bud!

I have had recent surgery which has prevented my caring for plants as usual, so it is looking puny all way round at the moment.
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

March 4, 2012
10:19 AM

Post #9029553

The plant is gorgeous even without flowers. You've probably tried bloom boosting fertilizer? I hope all is well after surgery for you.
Jamie
GREENSIDEUP
Big Flats, NY
(Zone 5b)

April 3, 2012
5:45 PM

Post #9068656

On Super Thrive, I don't use it on A.V.'s and I know three other enthusiasts who also seem to see a tightening of centers that didn't seem to be Mites as simply drenching with water seemed to be adequate. I do not mean to imply non use, just start small! Good luck to everyone!Lee Sherwood McDonald.
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

April 3, 2012
8:18 PM

Post #9068914

Good information Lee.

Cymbelina

Cymbelina
Prattville, AL
(Zone 8a)

March 14, 2013
6:27 PM

Post #9449653

Love the laughing cat! I have one with an attitude. Gessie, did it ever bloom? Did the stress of your unintentional neglect prove out the "torture your non-blooming violet" theory and it bloomed like gangbusters? Inquiring minds want to know! :)

Even my cat Mouse wants to know (yeah right)!

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gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

March 15, 2013
2:42 AM

Post #9449901

Nope.

This year half the plant suddenly turned to mush! I didn't want to throw it away so doused it with cinnamon powder and stuck it back in the covered tray. I took the basic approach of what have I got to lose, not really expecting anything.

Guess what? New growth, beautiful variegation, but no bloom!



This message was edited Mar 15, 2013 7:52 AM
zozzl
Orlando, FL

March 15, 2013
3:35 AM

Post #9449911

Maybe it it a philodendron:)
gessieviolet
Saluda, SC
(Zone 8a)

March 15, 2013
5:54 AM

Post #9450011

Here's a quick camera shot just taken. The whole front side was gone but is now coming back.

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Cymbelina

Cymbelina
Prattville, AL
(Zone 8a)

March 15, 2013
12:36 PM

Post #9450455

Well, you have to say one thing for this little guy---he's stubborn!! Maybe instead of torture, it needs some romancing...hmmm.. :)

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