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ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 23, 2011 9:43 AM Post #8581891
| Got a text from Greykyttyn in Joplin.. She is okay! Thank God.. Thank God. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 23, 2011 10:42 AM Post #8582036
| Please take a moment to exchange phone numbers!
It is very frustrating and scary when we can't check on our DG buddiez!!
edited to remove my number.. I think it's been up there long enough. Thank you everyone who participated.. I think this is important.
This message was edited May 24, 2011 9:28 AM |
DonnaB
Vancleave, MS (Zone 8b)
May 23, 2011 3:30 PM Post #8582651
| Can call anyone at no charge and can receive text but not send. edited to remove number. If anyone wants it just D-Mail
This message was edited May 24, 2011 9:12 AM |
Haystack
Ferndale, WA
May 23, 2011 6:53 PM Post #8583082
| Anyone wanting mine, I'll dmail if requested. I don't just want to put my # out there for everyone...Hay |
AnnieBBB
(Zone 5b)
May 24, 2011 9:13 AM Post #8584260
| I'll also d-mail my phone number. I really worry when we don't hear from people!!!!!
Thanks so much for letting us know Greykyttyn is OK! Whew, those were wicked storms! |
Eufaula
Eatonton, GA (Zone 8b)
May 24, 2011 9:59 AM Post #8584375
| Whooooosh , thats a relief!!! These Storms are getting worse and worse! Be safe DG friends!
If you want my number just D-mail...If for some reason you cant get me to reply, contact Digger. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 24, 2011 10:38 AM Post #8584441
| I guess Greykyttyn is trapped from the flooding.. They have to boil water... There is no power for 2 weeks... ATMs are useless.. can't get supplies. There is so much more behind the scenes that we don't know about.. Yes, she was out of immediate danger, and their property was not destroyed.. but they have family in hospitals all over the country and now the flooding is causing problems! My heart goes out to all those people... I love MO..
Keep the prayers and good thoughts coming. |
DonnaB
Vancleave, MS (Zone 8b)
May 24, 2011 11:56 AM Post #8584560
| I know exactly how miserable that all is. She and everyone there is going through what we all did after Hurricane Katrina. My heart really goes out to everyone there and I pray their recovery is swift |
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY (Zone 6a)
May 25, 2011 6:51 PM Post #8587413
| My internet modem went bad and I had to wait for a new one before I could get online. All the affected people have bben in my prayers. I was worried about Gray Kitten and her brood. So relieved to know they are good. |
wren107
Jacksonville, FL (Zone 8b)
May 26, 2011 3:57 AM Post #8587910
| So glad she is safe. If anyone wants my phone# dmail me. |
Haystack
Ferndale, WA
May 26, 2011 2:24 PM Post #8588992
| You make an excellent point ZZ's. There is always so much more behind the scenes that we don't know about. We do need to continue to pray for Greykyttyn and that whole area. Without adequate supplies and potable water, health issues can quickly become a terrible threat. I just can't imagine the heartache and fear some of those wonderful people are experiencing...Lord help them in this great time of need...Hay
If anyone comes up with a collective way to help Greykyttyn and her family, please let me know... |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 26, 2011 3:04 PM Post #8589075
| Okay.. She has been able to post once or twice on FB but can't get on here. I guess they lost the family business, but have been able to salvage a few of the wreckers. She said that when they were up there digging around, tiny shards of glass got in her shoes.. it's hard to navigate in all the debris. They found one cat that lives at the biz and were able to catch it.. the other one is still being hard to catch..
She also got an order of chicks from Meyers! Tell me it is not the stupidest thing you ever heard for that company to just ship out baby chicks to Joplin??? Hello? Like Cindy said, they don't even have a post office anymore.. or a phone, or any power to heat the brooder.. I mean really? I was very upset when she told me about it.. Really, is there anyone who doesn't know Joplin MO is hurting right now?
Haystack, you are so right.. We all need to be supportive and pray for all those people. We are lucky to be able to communicate with her.. There is so much after the fact that we don't know that goes on.. it goes so much further beyond the day of the disaster... I don't know what we can do other than send love and prayers for healing and strength and just be there for her when she needs us. :) |
green04735
Bridgewater, ME
May 27, 2011 8:19 AM Post #8590543
| Joplin your in my prayers,so glad greykyttn is ok but so sad for everything else |
Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
May 27, 2011 1:07 PM Post #8591042
| Lately, I just have no words.
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greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 27, 2011 7:49 PM Post #8591854
| i have INTERNET!!!! I am back! Thanks guys.. i've been able to read this.. but not able to post.. phone wouldn't let me.. I appreciate all the thoughts & prayers...Yes Meyers sent the chicks.. with no way for the post office to return them, find us.. or anything. They are sitting on the kitchen counter in a fish tank bc i don't have time to do anything else with them. It was pure irresponsibility on Meyers part. There was no phone service, cell or landline.. no internet.. they didn't' even know we were ALIVE... yet they send an order of chicks. I was just speechless when my phone rang at 430 am one morning & the post office on the other end of town was trying to located me to come pick them up bc they didn't' know what to do with them.. they had just heard them cheeping & needed them moved soon. |
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY (Zone 6a)
May 27, 2011 8:40 PM Post #8591935
| That is ridiculous. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 27, 2011 8:55 PM Post #8591958
| You should post that in the Garden Watchdog if it's in there.. Bad judgment if you ask me!
I'm so glad you are back online.. :) Hope all is getting better. |
Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
May 27, 2011 10:39 PM Post #8592090
| Happy to know you are safe Greykyttyn. Is there anything we can do to help? |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 28, 2011 2:27 PM Post #8593032
| not really at this point but thank you. Most of our issues is trying to pay bills while trying to rebuild. I'm getting a paycheck but idk for how long.. Mom's trying.. insurance is trying.. but its hard. Fema doesn't help businesses.. and SMB told us that we'd have to repay back the help... which we won't be able to do.. they only loan you money.. so we get NO government assistance after all this. Businesses are pretty much screwed help wise. DH & i are stretched thinner than the rest of the family bc we don't have a stove yet.. just a microwave.. the guy going to hook up the stove is helping dig us out & that seems more important.. but microwave friendly foods that kids will eat are expensive after awhile. trying to stock up on cheese & lunch meat.. they will live on sandwiches for awhile.. pb & j's too. Hardest one is the 18m old.. he's a picky eater... but then i was feeding them lots of veggies, fruits & home cooked meals... & this has lowered our standard of food.. thus he protests loudly... or thinks he can live on chips.
Fema forgets about the ones on the edges of town.. the ones that lost a business.. but have no power at thier homes as well... they are only concerned for the homes in the foot print... i went to a couple supply places & picked up some food for us.. to kinda balance out what cash we've got with bills for a bit. Just means we can't remodel the garage into a bedroom now.. will be living in the lil bedroom till next tax season... found a guy who puts in storm shelters... $2500 but then he found out we have a backhoe.. said if we'd dig the hole he'd put one in considerably cheaper... now to find the money to do that... we need one. Mom's putting one in.. but i'd feel better with one right out our back door!
lastly... CNN's photos.. DO NOT DO THIS JUSTICE. NO photo does... trust me. its 100x's worse than what you are seeing on TV. It looks like a war zone. like a bomb went off.. we've had people thru here that said its worse than Katrina.. worse than Haiti... i never saw those places.. but that gives you an idea of what volunteers coming in to help are saying. There are hills where i never knew there was one. The kids mom's apartment complex.. was leveled.. a family i babysit for their kids were in the building across from them.. their apartment.. is gone... totally flat floor where they lived. I called and they ran.. a Father that NEVER leaves for a tornado... he left this time but only bc i called & threw a fit that he leave... didn't get far.. made it to the Gas station that's been all over CNN that the people were in the beer cooler... 3 of those were my babies I've babysat for the last 5 yrs...
Some are crying all over everything... the rest.. are bottling it.. bc you don't have time to process it. If you stop to process you can't get done what you need to do. You have to detach yourself & laugh thru the digging.. Its the only way to get thru it. I lost everything i had my of my Fathers, my Great Aunts.. my grandma's and a few things of my mom's i keep in my hope chest.. my HOPE chest.. had it since i was 15.. its been packed & stuffed full of memories & treasures for my babies some day to know our family... Its strewed so far.. we can't find it in the first mile of searching.
People keep saying things can be replaced.. yes a house can be replaced.. but its those items.. like i lost...75 yrs of items passed down thru family i had collected... you can't replace that. |
Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
May 28, 2011 2:34 PM Post #8593048
| Sounds like it is a miracle you are alive. |
DonnaB
Vancleave, MS (Zone 8b)
May 28, 2011 3:13 PM Post #8593109
| greykyttyn just take one day at a time and try to keep your stress level down. Don't let it destroy your marriage.
I know what you are talking about with FEMA. We had flood insurance and couldn't get any help other than the 1,200 they gave everyone and a months food stamps. I guess it didn't matter that we never got our flood insurance money until mid Febuary of 2006 then had to sign it and send it to the mortgage company to take their part first and wait for them to send the rest back to us. SBA would only give us a loan to rebuild on our old property so we had to go regular loan again to buy this house since there was no way I could do a house on stilts which was now required for my area. The only way we got this house was from a wealthy relative loaned us a down payment until our insurance money came in or we would have been homeless while all the people that knew they were in flood zones but chose not to buy flood ins. got FEMA trailers.
It is really sickening they way they work things
Hang in there girl. It's going to be a long bumpy road ahead of you and family |
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY (Zone 6a)
May 28, 2011 3:21 PM Post #8593132
| Grey, You have been on my mind and in my prayers. I know how hard it must be. I have lived through many hurricanes but thankfully never lost everything all at once. Did your house get destroyed. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 28, 2011 3:26 PM Post #8593146
| Wow Donna.. Those are true words of wisdom. You are a very wise woman. I really admire you for that! Such good advice.."Don't let it ruin your marriage" I bet many marriages have perished under that kind of stress..
Cindy, I'm so sorry you have all this on your plate. I know you are strong and you will be okay. Wow.. |
AnnieBBB
(Zone 5b)
May 28, 2011 3:34 PM Post #8593174
| PLEASE let us know if there is anything you need, now or in the future. My heart aches for you and all the people in your area. |
titaniumRX8
Mint Hill, NC (Zone 7b)
May 28, 2011 7:08 PM Post #8593591
| I've seen pictures and videos on Fox news and Weather channel that are just unbelievable. I don't even have words to express how awful I feel about what people are going through. I have seen that there is a lot of outpouring help. I just wish I could be there to help in some way...I think I will give to the red cross or salvation army so they can help out with what people need the most.
Just take it one day at a time and keep plugging away and this will make one stronger. Good luck with getting the house and business back in order.
I've seen on TV people are finding stuff that belongs to others and saving it for later. I know it will be difficult to get everything to the right person, but I hope most of your hope chest stuff makes its way back to you. Prayers for you, your family, and friends. |
Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
May 28, 2011 7:43 PM Post #8593667
| We had a tornado in 95. I know we were all in shock for about two weeks, and the tiniest little cloud in the sky sent my mind into a panic.
It was really amazing how people cleaned things up so quickly. Ours wasn't nearly as bad as yours though.
Your situation has made me want a shelter of my own too.
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greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 28, 2011 8:51 PM Post #8593765
| our streets are clean already... everything's been pushed to the side... my stuff didn't' have my name on it.. no way to find it.. a few pictures maybe... but most of it.. no one but me will remember what it was... most stuff they are just picking up with track hoe's & putting in dumpsters or burning in huge piles on sight. too much to sort thru. My DH is AMAZING. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. there's been no fights, no arguing.. he jumped right in & helped me pick thru stuff.. just as dirty & cut up as I was the first 3 days. he crawled thru twisted steel beams & shredded sheet metal to pull out mom's fake flowers she saw & freaked out she wanted... When i picked up my baby sheet.. a queen size sheet mom has used since i learned to crawl for me & other kids to eat on in the beauty shop.. and it was full of holes but i clung to it demanding it go home & be washed.. he just tenderly folded it as best as he could & stuffed it in the car. he finally broke down today when we went by the apartments... if your on FB you can see them... the kids mom's apartment is totally gone.. not a wall or anything left.. floor just as bare as the day they started building it. It hit home how close we came to losing our babies if we'd picked them up 20 mins later...
@CajuninKy... no.. house is fine... we just lost the business.. BUT Dustin & I had just moved out of mom's 3 weeks prior.. and hadn't gotten everything out of storage.. so most of my furniture was stored in a trailer behind our shop. So i didn't lose my house.. but i lost several things that cant' be replaced like my hope chest. I lost a box of clothes that was the girls, mine & mom's summer clothing. We've got enough to get by... its just one of those things that upsets you & you don't realize it till you go looking for it & notice its gone.
@AnnieBBB ... i just don't know. I'm not one to ask for things.. or take things very well... i can give all day long.. i just don't receive things very well. We are ok for now i think. i broke down & got food from one of the supply lines, dang near killed me to do it but i did it for the kids.. and Hannah.. she will be coming to live with us for awhile. It'll be enough for a week or so till things slow down. but thank you.
the picture is the gas station my little friend hid in with her family.. in the beer cooler.. its been all over CNN. Found out tonight.. i knew another family in that cooler.. i went to school with the parents.
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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CajuninKy
Biggs, KY (Zone 6a)
May 28, 2011 9:07 PM Post #8593785
| They must have been scared out of their wits. Poor things. God is so merciful. It seems a miracle the death toll is not higher.
Glad your home is fine. I am sorry you have lost your precious belongings. Many "things" cannot be replaced but the love you had for their meaning can never be taken away from you. Later, as you think of some of the items, you can tell their story to the kids, make a sketch of the item and put it all in a memory book. |
porkpal
Richmond, TX
May 28, 2011 9:11 PM Post #8593796
| And somewhere inside all that destruction there is an undamaged beer cooler? |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 28, 2011 9:42 PM Post #8593826
| yes.. a very undamaged beer cooler that held 8 people i know & another 8 to 10 i didn't know. Last family wasn't totally inside when the from windows blew out of the gas station.
here's our shop.. second morning i was there.. couldn't take photos Sunday night.. so much natural gas in the air & diesel fuel, oil & what not on the ground we'd have blown ourselves to kingdom come if i'd clicked the shutter on the camera. Dustin & I walked in.. were down there 20 mins... and were sick for a good 24 hours afterwards from all the gas we inhaled.
My brothers & friends had already cut away a good chunk of metal covering the truck on the end...
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 28, 2011 9:43 PM Post #8593830
| here's a wider shot. the water tower in the background.. the brick structure was apartment buildings... 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
May 29, 2011 4:16 AM Post #8594099
| Greykyttyn, I'm sorry. I went thru Hurricane Andrew (cat 5) in Fl, and then the Hurricanes Jeanne and Frances took out my house. Wilma later took out the storage pod with much of what I'd "saved".
So I can relate. Few pictures (no albums) survived, my two most treasured pieces of family furniture were lost as well. An 18th century watercolor painting simply disappeared from the paper. So many treasures just became a pile of rubble.
You don't get over it. You do learn to go on. It's not easy, and it's a very long process. 7 years later I still get weepy over some of the "stuff".
Please let me know if I can help. |
green04735
Bridgewater, ME
May 29, 2011 5:25 AM Post #8594189
| I`m sitting here looking at these pictures with tears in my eyes.I don` watch the news much because I don`t like the sadness and the fear that peaple have to go through.I still know whats going on I do listen to the radio and read the paper.My heart aches for the peaple that have to go through these disasters,and I do pray for them. |
AnnieBBB
(Zone 5b)
May 29, 2011 7:33 AM Post #8594379
| I'm teary too. The damage is just unbelievable, and so is the courage of those who keep on going. Bless your heart Greykyttyn. Please, please let me know when you need something. You're all in my thoughts and prayers. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 30, 2011 6:42 PM Post #8597996
| catmad.. you helped just knowing someone understands & doesn't think i'm crazy for being upset over a few pieces of furniture. |
green04735
Bridgewater, ME
May 31, 2011 2:48 AM Post #8598550
| There is memories in those few pieces of furniture |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 31, 2011 6:47 AM Post #8598839
| ok i do have one small need for a very small friend of mine. The girl that was in the Gas station during the tornado lost her phone during that time. She's been whisked away to Wellington, KS to her mom since the following morning, with no good byes to any of us. She's going to be living with me for a couple weeks starting Saturday before heading back to her mother so it could be mailed here. A phone is such a small thing but its such a big thing for a teen whose been though what she has. She has to beg her brother to use his phone to stay connected to us in any way. Please if anyone can help she is asking for a donation of a USED Verizon phone.. anything basically she doesn't care what it looks like as long as she can make phone calls & text. Can anyone help please? We'd really appreciate it! |
DonnaB
Vancleave, MS (Zone 8b)
May 31, 2011 8:43 AM Post #8599152
| you are luckie to have found anything. I was only able to get a very small porcelin baby figurine my grand father got me when I was 9. Some how it didn't break, also got my DG coffee mug that was in the dish washer. No pictures and that hurts the worst |
Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
May 31, 2011 11:03 AM Post #8599406
| This is a good reminder to all of us to secure our family pictures. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 31, 2011 11:33 AM Post #8599455
| Cindy!! Let me look!! I think I have one!! I'll email you.. I have to do some searching, but I had Verizon on the truck!
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greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 31, 2011 11:40 AM Post #8599466
| Found one already ZZ but THANK YOU. I had posted to FB as well & a girl on there thinks she can mail me one.. if not i'll let you know. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
May 31, 2011 11:47 AM Post #8599472
| Okay.. good.. I found the charger, but not the phone.. it must be in storage. I do have an ATT go phone if you need.. expensive, but good in a pinch.
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CajuninKy
Biggs, KY (Zone 6a)
May 31, 2011 1:40 PM Post #8599667
| When my SILs house burned the family was able to replenish most of her photos because she had given us all so many of her 4 kids. But losing the old single copies is devastating. I only have a few of my Dad who passed when I was 8. |
MissJestr
Kingman, AZ (Zone 7a)
May 31, 2011 3:57 PM Post #8599862
| ;~} You saved the most important thing... Your Family... HUGS... |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
May 31, 2011 4:51 PM Post #8599975
| I've got pictures that are clear to Springfield I'm sure.. thats why my DH braved the winds to run back to our house just a couple mins before the tornado hit to grab the 2 External hard drives with 10 yrs of photos on... my laptop got left... but the kids pictures we got... Thankfully our houses were good & my laptop is still there.. the photos on it WILL BE added to the EHD very soon... They are small and portable..
IF ANY storm starts into the area I've always packed a small bag... i can't take much.. but i can take what i can that can't be replaced. my biggest issue has always been i only have 1 cat carrier.. so who do i choose... Sassy? Katie? Twitch? Callie? Lil Girl? Boba? Sissy? or the kittens... how do you pick? i cant' take all, can't shoved all into the carrier.. but they are all my babies too.. It was heartbreaking Wed night when the sirens blew again... we ended up leavning them all.. and praying we didn't get hit. They were terrified, crying & begging me to hold them.. but i had to close the door in thier face & run with the kids to the basement. |
catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
June 1, 2011 4:17 AM Post #8600807
| Greykykttyn, or anyone else who has to evacuate, use pillowcases. One for each cat. Believe it or not, they seem somehow more comforting than carriers, and seldom do cats object nearly as much as you'd expect. Tie around the top with cord. I eventually kept a stack of thrift store pillowcases with rope run thru the hem and used that to tie them closed, like a pursestring. They get plenty of air, if that is a concern. It's not for long term, of course, but great for transport.
I went thru two concurrent hurricanes in S Florida, which ended up destroying my house. The cats needed transport to the safe house I'd arranged. I had 7 carriers, but before Frances things got dicey quicker than I'd expected, and after the second trip we ended up plopping everyone in pillowcases and loading the car and truck. When we had to repeat a few weeks later, the "pillowcase cats" were less freaked out than the ones who had traveled by carrier. I think it's because they didn't see what was going on.
I had every intention of posting links for you showing I'm not completely off my rocker, but my computer is soooo sloooow that i'll try to post them later, if they ever finish loading :(.
Just wondering why the cats couldn't go to the basement? That would be the best option, I think. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 1, 2011 6:38 AM Post #8601067
| basement was at mom's house... cat's never been outside except to vet... i ended up needing to carry 1 of them across the yard when we moved... she wouldn't go in carried... took 3 days to calm her down. I will get pillow cases! We didnt' have enough of those for the cats either... THANK YOU CATMAD |
porkpal
Richmond, TX
June 1, 2011 7:16 AM Post #8601135
| Oh, and don't use old pillowcases. I've used this technique too - for years, but I once put one large, determined cat in an old pillow case. He jammed his head into a corner and PUSHED - rip, out he came! |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 1, 2011 8:15 AM Post #8601269
| so buying new pillow cases ASAP! I'm guessing cheap walmart ones would rip as well.. will hav eto see what target's got |
porkpal
Richmond, TX
June 1, 2011 1:54 PM Post #8601988
| Mine was REALLY old, Walmart would probably be fine. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 1, 2011 2:29 PM Post #8602068
| have you actually looked at a walmart pillow case lately? a cheap one you can see thru them... i doubt they'd stand up to my poor cats claws. |
smedgekles
Conroe, TX
June 1, 2011 4:45 PM Post #8602402
| Haven't been able to post in a while, my subscription expired, but I'm back and so glad to hear that you are okay. I have family in Missouri but just north of Jeff City. They have had some tornado activity there too and lost a tree and have had to spend some time in the basement, but luckily all are okay. I feel for you greykyttn, the pictures are horrible but I'm sure it's much worse. I know someone whos parents lived there and had a rent house there as well, they lost both houses but they are okay. |
Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
June 1, 2011 5:37 PM Post #8602574
| Wb Smedgekles. We had rain in the Texas panhandle last night about midnight, along with pea sized hail. It was wonderful, it just POURED about an hour. I am so thankful.
Last Sunday there were fires very near here, so we really needed the rain. Chance of more rain tonight. |
catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
June 2, 2011 4:37 AM Post #8603378
| "Oh, and don't use old pillowcases."
Good point, porkpal. I didn't have any problems, but my Furkids were mostly pretty close to feral still, and just kind of froze. I have some dollar store pillowcases that are pretty strudy. Not very soft for sleeping, but as transport vehicle, they suffice.
I get it now, Greykyttyn, thought the basement was in the same house, thus my confusion. I am easily confused...
If you should end up buying carriers, I'd recommend those that have double doors. One in the usual place (on the end) and a big one on top. Much easier to "load", and many Vet procedures can be done without removing the cat from the carrier. If you need to load a cat into a carrier with only the door on the end, stand the carrier so the door is on top. Hold kitty by the scruff of the neck, and lower him/her down onto the abyss. Doesn't always work, but it's worth a shot. |
smedgekles
Conroe, TX
June 2, 2011 5:16 AM Post #8603437
| LFG we are still dry, dry, dry. Glad you got some wet stuff, share some with us :)
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greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 2, 2011 6:42 AM Post #8603603
| lol ya... doesn't always work..tipped on the end... i have a cat... Katie.. who unless u wrap her head in a towel will without a doubt every time throw every leg she's got out in a different direction & i swear at that moment she grows an extra set of legs.. It takes two people to load her in a carrier.. always. She's such a sweetie till she sees the carrier... everyone else can be pushed in from the front.. I have a second carrier that needs replaced.. my cat died in it when the neighbor poisoned it & the cats refuse to get in the thing. Its a leather carrier with an opening on both ends AND the top. I love it. so much easier to use.. i just can't use it anymore bc they get so very distraught when put in it. He pooped all over it when he died.. and i can't get it out of the fur lining since its not washable.. so out to the trash its been sent.
New twist to this lovely story...
FEMA does NOT help businesses... we were told to go to SBA... well SBA.. ONLY GIVES OUT LOANS. FEMA keeps bragging how they are gonna rebuild this town... they aren't going to rebuild anything but houses...and not even really helping to much with that consitently. so what happens when the 500+ business can't afford to rebuild & half of them move out! The business are just as important if not more so that the houses at this point.. the business owners have cleared 98% of debris & are ready to rebuild for at least half those businesses... BUT a good portion will not be able to rebuild due to not being able to pay on a loan while trying to make enough to meet payroll. They keep advertising & telling the community that there is 30k out there for each business not payable back to rebuild... so normal citizens are praising FEMA left & right. They have left us helpless as far as getting ANY government help that would be helpful at all.
So its been a lovely week so far. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 2, 2011 8:58 AM Post #8603830
| day just went a bit further down... they found my SIL's Stepsister. Her house wasn't damaged.. she would have been fine.. but her precious doggy ran down the street when the sirens blew & she ran after it. They found her body last night after days of searching.. not sure where. They have yet to find the dog dead or alive. I hadn't seen her since i was a small girl.. but my sis in law & her family are in need of prayers. |
catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
June 2, 2011 9:23 AM Post #8603876
| I'm so sorry. Please let them know that people all over are feeling a little of their pain, and wish them peace and healing.
FEMA wasn't much help in my situation with rebuilding, and the loans were not much use to anyone that I could see.
But, I give them great praise for getting me my trailer. I was automatically put into the trailer program when my house was condemned, but I was able to afford my own trailer, and figured that I should. I was going back and forth with my village zoning board, because trailers weren't allowed. I jumped through 100 hoops, including getting written permission from every neighbor. Finally thought I had it under control, but one more obstacle appeared. I was just out of gas. The next day, a nice man called me called me and said he was from FEMA, and how did he find my lot. I asked why he needed to know, and I probably wasn;t very nice about it.
He said he had my trailer, and wanted to get me in it ASAP. I burst into tears and said I wasn't allowed...
He laughed. Said, "yeah, I know. But you've forgotten. I'm with the GOVERNMENT. I'm bringing the trailer. They will just have to deal with Uncle Sam"
It was there the next morning, set up, and permitted. I don't know how, but I never heard another word about it.
Much as I may B*&ch about the government, it did come thru for me. Big time.
I hope that something works out for you. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
June 2, 2011 9:42 AM Post #8603911
| I'm sorry for your loss Greykyttyn... That is terribly sad.
There is so much associated with the storm that we don't see.. and about the business, that is just insane.. so what if they put up a bunch of houses, how are people expected to live?? Gut wrenching.. and just wrong.
I had a suggestion about pillow cases.. My friend who bought some chickens from me said to use feed bags.. they do not rip. The chickens kinda just freeze, and don't fight making the trip less stressful.. they can breathe just fine, and although it looks like torture, it is surprisingly easy on them!
You could fold a bunch of feedbags and keep them in one feedbag.. that's what I do. :) |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 2, 2011 11:08 AM Post #8604071
| @catmad... they were told here to find housing themselves... when all housing was filled.. then they would consider a possibility of trailers.. but they do not know how long that will take and people must find their own housing till them. no tents either...
@zz... would work great! got hundreds of chicken feed sacks... only problem... Purina makes em out of plastic now... not very breathable.
:) if your talking old cloth feed & flour bags.. its hard to find them around here. I have 2 i believe.. but they are very thick material.. not sure how anything could breathe in that. i know some were thinner.. just not the ones i have.
thank you both of you. I will pass it on |
DonnaB
Vancleave, MS (Zone 8b)
June 2, 2011 1:01 PM Post #8604271
| oh how sad but I understand the love for her pet and trying to save it.
Seems Govt works for some and not others. I don't know how they decide who to help but it is usually the ones that really don't deserve it. I am not being mean when I say that. Ex. my neighbors home was pd for. She knew she needed flood ins because we were in a flood zone but a low risk one. Not only did she not have flood ins but also didn't have any kind of ins on her home. she said she could afford to rebuild if anything happen but thought it wasn't likely. She had a Fema Trailer in a matter of weeks, got 2% SBA loan to rebuild and all the other perks those people got.
I had Flood Ins, Home Owners, and Wind coverage for hurricane. I got nothing but $1280 that everyone on the MS & La coast got. Home Owners doesn't cover housing for flooding and Flood Ins doesn't provide housing for those with losses. So finally 6 months later we got our Ins Money to start over.
What got us through was all the wonderful help we received from DG Members and a loan from a family member to put a down payment on this house before we lost it to someone else since the Ins dragged their feet so long in paying us off |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 2, 2011 8:56 PM Post #8605401
| our insurance company is awesome... they were there the day after & handed mom a large check for operating expenses. we hadn't' even called them yet.. the problem is.. you can't afford to carry full coverage insurance on all vehicles.. so out of 5 trucks.. 2 had full coverage. even at that.. we were paying like.. $6000 into the insurance company every 3 months for insurance on the buildings & trucks... BUT liability insurance doesn't rebuild the truck..
I was give a very big shock Wednesday morning when i learned the government would not help us out. In my naive state of growing up.. i believed FEMA was there to help everyone. Its very sad they don't. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
June 2, 2011 10:02 PM Post #8605463
| The plastic feed bags are what I was talking about.. We transported several birds that way and it IS breathable.. Or the grain would mold.. In a pinch, they would work well.. Not like your gonna leave em in there that long.. :) Flour sacks are a great idea!
I'm so sorry about your bad news.. hard to believe they just don't care. :( |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 3, 2011 7:01 AM Post #8605928
| our grain does come moldy half the time... that's why i didn't think they breathed... the company said it was from the bags getting too warm & moisture getting into them since they don't let hardly any air in. I'm taking bags of grain back about every other month anymore... if i didn't like the brand so much i'd just change. But the chickens do better on it. In a pinch yes... they would work.. even tied loosely at top. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 3, 2011 7:25 AM Post #8605971
| finally got hold of Meyers... they are sending me some chick starter & treats for the babies for my trouble. Said they knew about the Tornado but never check addresses on stuff, just mail it out. They will now though! or so they say.
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Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
June 3, 2011 12:31 PM Post #8606391
| What shocked me to see about FEMA, after Katrina, was they were out taking people's guns away from them, leaving them helpless to defend themselves or their property. At least that is what videos on youtube show. Have to leave my disclaimer, as I was not there and did not witness that.
Why in the world take people's guns when they need them most? Crazy time! |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 7, 2011 7:32 AM Post #8615129
| Will not be on here as much for a few days.. one of the kids who was in the gas station has come to live with us for a few weeks. My DH is hogging the computer trying to avoid the issues of now 4 females in the house.. 1 of which is a teenager... awesome teenager.. but still a teen. So far its working out good. She hadn't slept since the tornado... first night here i got her to sleep around midnight.. she didn't stir till 845am the next morning. This morning she's still not awake... and she went to bed around 1 am. |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
June 7, 2011 10:52 AM Post #8615549
| Give her a hug for me.. :) Hannah, right? I'm glad things are starting to smooth out. :) |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 11, 2011 8:35 PM Post #8624955
| i will ZZ... i have to say... putting cats in a pillow case to transport... not such a great idea... they turned into the cats from hell... declawed or not... my word... they turned into tigers! won't attempt that one again... no way i could transport them during a storm that way. We had to have the house sprayed for spiders... so i put 3 of the cats into pillow cases to transport them across the yard hoping it would be less tramatic... um... my cats must be odd.. didnt' work that way. Near lost my hand. have to keep thinking of ideas. |
porkpal
Richmond, TX
June 11, 2011 9:07 PM Post #8624984
| Hmmmm, odd, worked for me... |
catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
June 12, 2011 4:00 AM Post #8625131
| Oh dear. I had no issues, either. So sorry it didn't work for you, we'll have to keep trying. The only difference I can see is that declawed cats are notorious for biting, was that the problem? |
porkpal
Richmond, TX
June 12, 2011 6:01 AM Post #8625286
| I also think it is important to carry the pillowcase by the cat - the bottom, not the top like a bag. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 12, 2011 7:09 PM Post #8626482
| lol yep had the bottom... but the cats turned into the tigers & lions from some far off land, howling, twisting, turning, flipping, & fighting to get out of the bag.
Still looking for an idea... was really really really really hoping that worked. |
catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
June 13, 2011 3:56 AM Post #8626970
| Greykyttyn, this has been much on my mind. I know it would have been very distracting for me had I not known I could transport everyone, especially pressured by predicted disaster. I had to know all the stuff I needed was where it should be, which is unusual for me *G*. I just looked back, and can't find out the reason that you only have one carrier. Is it an issue of space? Cost? Both of those can be solved, is it something else?
I may not be able to help with much, but maybe this is do-able :) |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 13, 2011 8:27 PM Post #8628781
| well keep in mind.. i got married & moved to a new house. before.. when the sirens would sound.. my babies would all race for the basement right ahead of my mother to greet me at the bottom of the staircase with many cries of panic. My outdoor cats would be at the door waiting for me to open it & race right down stairs with the others. I now live next door to my mother.. and it never occurred to me I would need to transport all of them at one time. The inside cats might come next door when they see us run.. but i am not sure. besides a tornado.. there really isn't any reason I'd need to transport all the cats & the dog at one time... other than when we sprayed for spiders yesterday. We will be putting in a storm shelter so idk how hard it would be to transport them into the shelter.. which will be just a few feet out the back door.. probably just need to continually run back & grab them.. they all hate carriers with a passion but i could put them in as soon as it upgrades to a warning I suspect.. but that could mean an hour or 3 inside a carrier.. or more. which i hate to do as well as often as we have storms. Space is an issue here and i do have 2 carriers.. one hard sided one & a leather collapsible one that unzipped on each end & the top. My mom threw it in the washer & got it clean enough the cats will now go in it again after my other cat unfortunately died inside of it. Money is a bigger issue. small but not super tiny carriers that are collapsible cost around $40 here. we have & adult cats here now.. will still have 6 when the Shop cat returns to our shop when its rebuilt... and 5 kittens. We decided we can't rehome them after this. There are too many homeless, motherless kittens out there. We will keep ours & ask people to go find one at the shelter.
I normally pack ahead everything we'd need for 3 days including peanut butter, crackers, syurp, granola bars, candy, gatorade & other such items that don't require refrigeration. meds for me, mom, kids, animals, small amount of food for animals, small extensive first aid kit, money, id cards, insurance cards, EHD's loaded with photos, 1 small bag about a ft x ft big.. that can hold anything of value.. but it must fit in that bag. Kids get 1 back pack for the girls, 1 for the boys & the older kids carry them... they can only pack what toys or items they hold dear that will fit. our 1 bug out bag was so heavy my DH had a bruise on his shoulder from carrying it. If i can think of it & it seems we could use it, it goes in the bag... though now i keep a weight limit on the bags so I'm revising what goes in. I had put too much food items in the one my DH was carrying. With a shelter (when it goes in) i will keep a box of food items for a week for 10 people down there (shelter will hold 20). which will no longer need to be packed with us.
My twitchy still howls when they test the sirens on Mondays... but i had clutched her to my chest & ran across the yard in the rain & winds with her. I got her out that way, boba & her kittens out in a carrier. Sassy went to ground.. couldn't find her, no time to look, same for Katie. Little girl who always comes in the house & Callie... were no where to be found.. they went to ground outside, which told me we were in for it. The poor shop cat Sissy rode it out in the shop.. no clue where, we never found the body of the other one & she's not shown up at the shelter yet. We had 20 to 30 stray shop cats we fed.. numerous kittens but none have been found. none were close to our hearts but it does hurt to not know where they are.
It was just one of those things I took for granted never having moved before.. it was heart breaking to close the door on them. They are my babies. My oldest I've had her 13 yrs. I pray we have no more weather issues till our shelter goes in. Then this will never be an issue again. |
catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
June 14, 2011 4:20 AM Post #8629181
| That sure brings it all home. I still get very "twitchy" myself when the winds rise. Used to love storms, but not anymore. Somehow I never feel quite as safe. It's gotten better, and I hope will continue to.
You have good plans in place. I found that was important for me, and that if I knew where everything was, it went much more smoothly. Probably because I didn't have to think.
My "safe house" for the cats was just next door (about 1000 ft), but it was still a logistical nightmare. I was dealing with a ot of cats, and housing was as complicated as transporting. I very much hope that you have no more issues until the shelter is ready. If the cats become used to being in there, they may go by themselves, cats are smart and good at finding safety. The ones I couldn't catch during hurricanes (pretty much feral) dissappeared before the situation got serious, and I only lost one over the years. He (Three Spots) had been very ill prior, and was older, so we think he just didn't wake up.We found him in a safe place. No-one was in the house when the roof went off, AFAIK.
Still, I will keep my eyes open at yard sales and flea markets, and if I can come up with collapsible carriers, I'll get them. They usually only cost 5 bucks or so around here. I'll contact you if I find any. I keep a plastic one in my trunk along with cans of cat food, just in case...
Don't give up on the shop cats, especially the outsiders. If there's any way to leave them food and water, it might save them. I have some feral kittens that have been eating in my porch, and they disappeared with very feral MomCat two days ago. I was just beginning to put out boxes, which leads up to carriers, to trap them. I didn't "know" them, and it certainly would make life easier if they were no longer here, but this morning, when they (at least most of them) re-appeared, I was very happy to see them.
I know that this is a very hard time. The initial "help" peters out, and you seem forgotten. You're not, believe me. Things just don't get better very quickly, and my thoughts are with you.
Margo |
Light_for_Jesus
(Zone 6b)
June 14, 2011 5:50 AM Post #8629290
| Seems the secret morgue was because of a strain of fungus that was killing people after the storm. They claim it was in the air caused by the tornado. Unsure on that, as "population reduction" is a favorite past time of our Elite world rulers. Fungus and heavy metals are rumored to be in the chemtrails they keep spraying us with.
http://www.newson6.com/story/14884275/fungal-infection-strik...
It is these molds and fungi in antibiotics that are causing many health problems in our society, and finally here is some proof that they are quite real. Of course there are over three hundred different strains of these molds, this particular one is deadly. Acidophilus and garlic help kill fungi.
More info on this strain: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001672/
Stay safe.
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greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 14, 2011 8:17 AM Post #8629589
| ugh.. ya.. i took more than my fair share of acidophilus & garlic as a child... still take & feed those eating my food a good healthy amount of fresh garlic with nearly every meal. We were in so much of it... there is no doubt we've all inhaled it. but its been 3 weeks & no side effects. I stepped on a nail a week ago... food feels fine.. DH has been watching it for me. pulled it open & poured a LOT of 93% alcohol down inside it. Almost poured a bottle of 40 yr old whisky on it thinking it might help more. DH stepped on a nail, i had glass pulled out of my feet for 2 days.. otherwise.. besides me trying to slice my finger off we've been good injury wise.
catmad ... its probably 500 feet to mom's house... still a nightmare to transport them tho. I was nearly in tears carrying Twitch across the yard... she was so scared & there was nothing i could do to make her feel safe. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 15, 2011 9:09 AM Post #8631887
| news flash.. if you are going to bleach someone's hair in a kitchen sink please check weather first & make sure southwest Missouri isn't going to have isolated thunderstorms. It will be the one time in you life an isolated thunderstorm actually happens. lightening flashed,power went out, water flew, i shoved the child across the room into the interior kitchen wall, following close behind & shielding her from the window & she imbedded her nails into my arm in fear. all in about point 3 seconds. Her hair is bleached blonde... our nerves are shot. dying it pink tonight... hoping there is NO more storms. |
titaniumRX8
Mint Hill, NC (Zone 7b)
June 15, 2011 9:16 AM Post #8631900
| I was just thinking about a carrier that one could throw together in a pinch. I was thinking about stuff people probably have around the house and it came to me.
How about a laundry basket, a blanket, and some of those bungee cords to wrap around it to keep the blanket secure? Not sure if that will work with wild cats, but I know my cats like to jump in my laundry baskets so it would not be a stretch to put them in it in an emergency. You can hook one end on one side and can stretch the bungee over the top and then hook it to the other doing like a cross pattern or several parallels over top.
What does everyone think? |
porkpal
Richmond, TX
June 15, 2011 9:17 AM Post #8631902
| I'll keep that in mind. - The hair bleaching thing, that is.
I can't picture the laundry basket arrangement. What would keep the cat in?
This message was edited Jun 15, 2011 10:20 AM |
catmad
Pelzer, SC (Zone 7b)
June 15, 2011 12:24 PM Post #8632330
| I'd be afraid they pull the blanket down in with themselves, and either escape or restrict air flow. You can put two laundry baskets together with the cat(s) inside, and fasten with zip strips, but it's pretty cumbersome. Make sure you have something to cut them apart, tho (can't imagine why I know this:).
You could actually make tops for them, I guess, why not? Cut a piece of wood the right size, attach to one side with rope or zip ties, and close the other the same way |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 17, 2011 8:48 AM Post #8636241
| the wood top might work.. but it would be cumbersome... blanket my cats would get out of... my cats aren't wild at all... till u put them in a carrier.. then they freak out.
didn't dye her hair pink yet... our nerves were too shot to do it. |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 23, 2011 7:53 AM Post #8648782
| I thought i'd let everyone know Esquire Magazine did a few articles on the tornado & my Hannah will be in it if anyone wishes to read them. Not sure how long till they come out.
Will probably only be lurking on here.. we are taking in Hannah's little sister Abby starting this Sunday thru the 17th of July. Her mom called & asked if we'd take her. sure is going to be interesting. They just may learn to like PB&J more so than they do... and eggs since groceries are so high... got 40 eggs last week in 3 days from the hens.. unfortunately I've got eggs coming out my ears now. lots of hard boiled & deviled eggs coming up. So pray for us... 6 children now, 17 to 20 months. My DH keeps fussing I'm nesting... only with kids instead of items in the house. He was all for taking them both in tho. So no problems there, he just likes to pick on me.
o!!! i was down at the coop today looking and i have a half silkie half something else... she has a silkie head, silkie toes & feet and a smooth dark golden body with black streaks like you'd drug your fingers in black ink then down her sides & tail. will have to get a photo & post of her on the wall. :) she's beautiful! |
titaniumRX8
Mint Hill, NC (Zone 7b)
June 23, 2011 1:29 PM Post #8649476
| Make some egg salad and potato salad with some of those eggs...Yummy! |
wren107
Jacksonville, FL (Zone 8b)
June 23, 2011 1:40 PM Post #8649506
| Gray I usually only lurk but I thought I would post this Amazon.com page of carriers some are cardboard fold up ones
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_6677232_23?ie=UTF8&node... |
greykyttyn
Joplin, MO (Zone 6b)
June 24, 2011 11:47 AM Post #8651776
| oo thanks wren!
titaniumRX8... potato salad sounds awesome! a friend has a recipe for mashed potato salad... |
ZZsBabiez
Lodi, CA (Zone 9b)
July 12, 2011 6:03 PM Post #8689075
| I can't do fundraising here, but we all know Cindy needs some help. my email is joyce@zzsbabiez.com if you want info. |
