This is the only yellow/orange/red Echinacea I need. It has all the colors on one plant. I have two second year plants and they are better than any other yellow, orange, or red. This is the coneflower I've been wanting all these years. Now I can quit griping about the others and just get more of this one. "Flame Thrower" is good too but the blooms have a tendency to be deformed. "Hot Papaya" was good the first year, but this year didn't return as expected. I think it bloomed itself to death last year. "Hot Summer" is hands down the best of the hybrid Echinaceas in my opinion.
That is pretty. I like the different colors. As I'm typing this, I'm wondering if my tomato soup is going to to come back. I have so many coneflowers, I'm not sure if that is one that I pulled because I was trying to cull the herd.
Hey Clint. The color change is what makes "Hot Summer" so unique. Immediately noticed that last year albeit the color change is a bit different down here. It opens pink and changes to orange. My "Hot Papaya" has returned this year, but its really struggling to become anything. Back to a small sized plant that wants to set buds when its very underdeveloped. I've noticed in the past few years the double pom pom type echinaceas are not as reliable to return for me from year to year. The most reliable has been "Pink Double Delight". Of all the doubles from last year "Milkshake" has come back the strongest.
Jon, I'm amazed that Milkshake has done so well for you. I've planted that one 3 times now. So far, it's never survived the summer even though it was planted with other echies that did fine. I go with Tony Avent's creed that if I've killed it 3 times, then it's not going to be hardy for me.
Looking forward to see if Hot Summer will be as lovely for me as it is in your picture, Clint.
Maybe my specific "Milkshake" Echinacea plant is a strong healthy one Bev. Who knows. Always helps when you have a strong plant to begin with. I'll usually give up after two failed attempts with a specific variety. I give you credit for trying a third time on some.
I loved "Hot Papaya" last year. Too bad others are experiencing the same issues I'm having with it. I do like the doubles just as much as the singles, but am a little more hesitant to spend money on them, when I'm beginning to notice a definite trend in them.
I just went to my local nursery that carries a lot of the newer fancy echs.. they had a handful of these guys but they were all thick single stem versions with a few flower heads forming. They reminded me of the mac n cheese plants that grew the same but never overwintered.
The only plants that don't seem to not overwinter are the ones that are growing just from a single growth point.. a single leader bloom stalk, so there isn't a lot of the basal full leaves at all. The first time i came across this issue was with 2 of the 3 mac n cheeses i have bought in years past. The one i did get that had a full bushy "undergrowth" came back just fine. This year though i moved it in early spring to put in a bog garden.. and can't remember at all where i moved it. I had the same issue with a few of the other varieties too.. so i avoid any of the echs that are growing like this.
I am going to look around to keep an eye for this variety though since it looks like it is doing well for you and a few others. I just won't buy the stock that my local place had to avoid the chance of a repeat mac n cheese.
The my tiki is on it's 3 (or 4th year) now and doing well... tis the same story with some varieties... they work for some folks and not others.
My maui last year was another one last year that did the single stem and the died back to nothing. The now cheesier plug i just got in a group buy has two growth points.. so i am hoping it holds up. Would be nice to get a yellow with the standard purp form that is a strong grower. Paradoxa is nice but a different flower form and early bloomer.
echinaceamanic- this is in reply to your May 23rd post. I am crazy about echinaecea! I have spent good money on the Paul Sauls series and many others, only to be very disappointed. 2 years ago, at a fall clearance at Lowes ,I found a stunning echineacea, it was named Hot Summer. I bought it because just as you said, it had all the colors that I wanted in one plant! Well 2 years later this plant is thriving I have already divided it once and they are both doing great. Meanwhile my other coneflowers are hanging in there, but I do not even care about them anymore, because I know they are going to die off. I bought this plant for next to nothing so I felt good about that. Anyone who really loves coneflowers must find this plant ( and I have noticed, it is not easy. It isn't in any nurseries around here; in fact Lowes doesn't even carry it anymore) It is awesome!!! I should take a pic and post it.
I'm sorry to hear some of you Gardener's have some problems with some of your Coneflowers. I had bought 4 Milkshakes last year 3 came back, but don't what happened to the fourth one. Same with my White Swan. Not sure but I think the animals ate some of my Coneflower's. My Pink Double Delights and Pink Poodles did not get bothered at all.
I bought my Echinacea hot summer last year. It came back this year beautifull. I did take some seeds last year they did germinate and are planted. I am curious to see if they come back as hot summer. Probably won't bloom until next year. This Echinacea hot summer is a very strong healthy plant.
IAfter seeing this thread am now trying to track "Hot Summer" in my neck of the woods (Ontario) w/o success. There aren't many coneflowers at all still available at garden centres at this time in the summer. I was hoping to get it in the ground now so it would be up and running come next spring.
That's good to hear! I'm getting ready to order one so I can get it in the ground this year. I also ordered, already, Amazing Dream, Phoenix, Daydream, Secret Joy, and Secret Passion. Have you had luck with any of these. I bought liners from Yahoo co-op.
It's been so hot, I think it will be a miracle just to get them alive!
So echinaceamaniac how are your "Hot Summer" doing this year? I bought several of these plants based on your recommendation but it is too early yet for mine to show flowers (at least they all survived their first winter).
Thanks for the recommendation for Santa Rosa. I ordered 8 different ones. When they arrived today, some had flowers on them, an unexpected surprise. Superlative packaging, not a single broken leaf or stem, soil in pots, everything neat and orderly and lush. Their flat-rate shipping is fabulous... and encouraged me to keep adding to my order. Sneaky.
The plants are nice, not fabulous, but I didn't expect fabulous for 4 bucks. However I tapped one out of its little pot and saw lovely root structures. They were a bit dry --- NOT their fault as we've had terribly hot weather lately -- and they weren't completely parched. So I'm giving them a nice bottom drink of Super Thrive and have the bed ready to plant tomorrow.
I am VERY happy with my first order from Santa Rosa. So much so that I went back and placed an order for 15 ornamental grasses.
You are very welcome, I think with echies dry is better than wet because they rot so easily. Wow 15 grasses! I ordered three Golden Sedge from them. I saw a mass planting in the middle of winter with these and I just love the gold color they are evergreen here, maybe for you also. :)
Sorry to be a downer but with widespread "yellow aster" disease and sometimes "Sunflower moth larvae" in the cone I have given up on adding new 'cones' to my garden beginning next year and in August I had removed several plants and replaced them with other things.