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Clematis: Help with Bill McKenzie seedlings

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gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

June 4, 2011
5:18 AM

Post #8607793

Boy, I did not know there was a Clematis forum, great. Saw what appears to be a newer strain of Clematis - Bill McKenzie. Could not find any plants to buy but did find some seeds. Read somewhere they might take up to 3 years to germinate. Mine came up in 2 weeks. Now, what do I do? Put them each into an individual pot? Plant outside? They are tiny. No true leaves yet. Any help will be appreciated.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

June 15, 2011
11:08 AM

Post #8632160

What did you end up doing? I would have put them outside. Have you gotten any more leaves yet on your seeds?
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
2:25 PM

Post #8632545

They are stil inside under lights. About 3-4 leaves per plant so far. Yes, they will go outside shortly.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 15, 2011
2:56 PM

Post #8632635

You will harden them off very well, won't you?
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
6:52 AM

Post #8633818

That's part of my question - any special way I should go from small seed pot indoors to outside in the ground?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 16, 2011
6:55 AM

Post #8633824

Dappled shade (no sun at all) for a few days, then partial sun for a few days, then where it will grow for a few days until you're positive of those spots. If, at any point, the leaves start to burn go back a step to more shade.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
10:21 AM

Post #8634184

OK, I'll start with them on the back porch and work up to full sun.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 16, 2011
1:27 PM

Post #8634438

Good luck. Go very slowly and let us know how it works out for you. The new leaves will be very sensitive to full sun.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2011
9:19 AM

Post #8653667

OK, I just put 1/2 of my seedlings out where I want them to grow. Keep back 1/2 on porch just in case. Each about 3-4" high with 5 leaves. Suppose it wouldn't hurt to put some wire/cage over them to discourgae the rabbits.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 25, 2011
12:10 PM

Post #8653936

You did a very slow transition to the garden, right?
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2011
12:57 PM

Post #8654012

Time will tell.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 25, 2011
1:15 PM

Post #8654030

You moved them very gradually from shade to where you want them. That's the point I was trying to get across.

Their leaves are very tender so they shouldn't be in hot sun.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

June 30, 2011
5:51 AM

Post #8663664

Just to check, here is one pix of one group that I have moved outside. Someone please tell me they look like Clematis.

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bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 1, 2011
6:04 AM

Post #8665806

http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=439
It looks like the same leaves.
Love your DG name...almost frightened too ask how you came up with it!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 1, 2011
6:46 AM

Post #8665883

Very funny about the DG name, Banana!
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 1, 2011
9:32 AM

Post #8666105

I'm gas_rocks on eBay, gasrocks on any photography forum. My initials are GAS and I collect rocks - eBay came up with that idea long ago. I usually tell people my initials are GAS and then not mention the collection.

This message was edited Jul 1, 2011 10:33 AM
bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 1, 2011
7:59 PM

Post #8667197

Ok, that's kosher! Thanks for sharing.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 2, 2011
4:12 AM

Post #8667451

Thanks for the explanation, GAS.

I was having visions of the scene in Blazing Saddles around the campfire.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 2, 2011
6:28 AM

Post #8667633

I do not remember much about that movie expect wasn't there a total of one word spoken?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 2, 2011
8:23 AM

Post #8667831

Not much dialogue in the scene but lots of bodily noises.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2011
7:13 AM

Post #8720666

OK, my 2 clumps of vines are doing well. Longest is about 10 inches long. Not sure how long/big they can get before frost hits here. Since they are new and small, should I cover them up for the winter?
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 28, 2011
7:16 AM

Post #8720670

I wouldn't cover them for the winter. Let nature take it's course - your plants will be healthier for it.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

September 10, 2012
1:12 PM

Post #9271064

Update: Seedlings spent winter outdoors in a pot, covered. Planted them this Spring. They are now 7 foot tall on the south side of my porch with about 30 blooms. Yeah. Not a typical Clematis bloom at all. Yellow bells that hang down. Seeds are inside fuzzy balls. Now, I am debating on collecting seed or not.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 15, 2012
2:31 PM

Post #9276090

Wowser! Seven feet tall! You did everything right. Congratulations.
bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 16, 2012
9:22 AM

Post #9276617

You have the magic touch! With those results you have a popular trade item.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 16, 2012
9:39 AM

Post #9276628

Looks like a lovely clematis!

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/69967/
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

September 16, 2012
10:50 AM

Post #9276676

The fuzzy balls that are the seed heads. How come Dave's says that the seeds are sterile? I grew this plant from seed. Guess I should try to keep some and see if anything sprouts next year.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 16, 2012
11:11 AM

Post #9276689

Not everything on PlantFiles is 100% accurate.

This could be some interesting reading for you on your clematis:
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/clematis/msg03131419657.html?20
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

September 16, 2012
12:10 PM

Post #9276740

Good read, thanks.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 16, 2012
12:53 PM

Post #9276765

Personally, I wouldn't be dissuaded by anything you read about raising them from seed. Maybe others had no luck or perhaps they are sterile. You'll find out.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

October 9, 2012
11:34 AM

Post #9300676

Update - I just collected 28 of those puff ball seed heads. Been watching the seeds and they are now dry and starting to fly away. My plan is freezer for a month (kills bugs if nothing else.) Then refrig. Think I'll plant them (under lights) about Feb/March. Am I on the right track? Send me a D-mail if anyone wants some now or later.

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