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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 9, 2011
9:18 AM

Post #8620029

Hello to everyone and welcome:

To those new to our little chat. Plese feel free ask anything, as we try to keep it simple and fee l/we should always pass along our own knowledge. Lurkers are also welcome. Please check in if possible I would hate to loose someone in one of these switches.

We came from here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1184347/

As with all of the threads I stat I like to welcome anyone new to our little corner of Daves Garden. Please take the time to read all the past threads. Most of them have some great information in them. There are no dumb questions except for the 1 thats never asked.

Anyone new I highly recomend reading the propagation how to 1/4 of the way down the first incarnation of this thread.we have evolved to a mix of good people having fun and discussing issues we are having at the moment. if you need individualhelp just dmail me I am always glad to help.

Here is the 1st post http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/892721/

pictured is of my poppies in flower as a group. They are done and dried up it looks like they are all burned but I think its just the life cycle. they were great fun just a bit too tall for my liking.

I look forward to some spirited conversation but as mother nature has decided to be nasty this year we will also be chatting about the weather and what we are growing

Dave

thank you for the intrest and welcome

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 9, 2011
10:08 AM

Post #8620142

Well, here I am and JB will be last because she is cooking in her high heat. We are close to freezing. Got down to almost in the 30s last night.

I thought the same thing about ferts and nutes Dave. But not JB. I guess I do not believe the fertilizers have everything the plants need. No fert has it all. Guess that is why I mix my own. Just like I used to mix my own potting mixes. Don't do that like I used to any more. And my plants show it.

But, I usually do like Dave. Treat them all the same. Sorry JB. I just got slapped.
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 9, 2011
10:21 AM

Post #8620162

Hope you folks don't mind having a newcomer drop in. This is my first visit to the Propogation forum and this popped up and I read quite a bit from mid May. I see several familiar faces. Dawn, howdy girl...it has been ages and ages since we have chatted. Are the Rose Campions in the picture you posted some I sent you a few years ago? If so, so glad they look as pretty as they do. I love that plant, one of my favorites, right after Gladiolus.

Sharon ought to be home now and I am really looking forward to hearing about the trip and seeing some pictures. I met Sharon and Linda online last winter in another forum, so kind of know a bit about them. Dawn and I were friends from years ago before I took a long break from Dave's Garden and thankfully missed the separation of the groups.

I don't know jberger but am familiar with the name from some other threads I have read in the past. As for others of you, if I find myself hanging out a bit with you guys, I hope to get to know each of you a bit better too.

Most of my Dave's Garden time is spent in The Mid Atlantic Gardeners Forum or the almost dying Clean and Clutter Free forum. I recently attended a plant swap with members of the Mid Atlantic group and still have dozens of pots of goodies to go in the ground from that wonderful day. I love the people in Dave's and love the swaps they have at least annually and sometimes more often.

Lots of interesting chat going on here. Looking forward to "meeting" more you of you soon.

Ruby

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 9, 2011
11:19 AM

Post #8620252

Hi Ruby, and welcome. That is too bad about the Clean and Clutter forum dying. I lurked a bit and there were some good tips in there. Guess lurkers need to do more joining to keep things going.

We are a pretty diverse group here with East Coast, West Coast, Montana and Mexico being the North and South, and everywhere in between. Makes it very interesting due to the different climates and different types of plants.

We do stray off topic now and then and nobody gets upset. We do rub each other the wrong way once in a while but nobody takes it seriously, which makes it nice. I guess if they do, maybe they just fade away and we don't realize it, but we haven't had anyone leave so guess not. It is all in fun anyway and we all realize it.

So, just jump in anytime and even if you crosspost with someone else (post at the same time) i.e. (butt in, LOL) your post and theirs will still show up. Oh one more thing, we love pictures.
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

June 9, 2011
12:05 PM

Post #8620347

Hello to and welcome Ruby. Montana is pretty cool now have had a couple days in low 70's but then the weather got us again, has been staying in the low 50's and colder at nite. Plants are almost drowning, but not as bad as about 100 miles from here, they are underwater, and don't see a change real soon. Friends of mine are out of their house now for a couple of weeks, and they, along with their little town just got another flash flood, second one in as many weeks. Here in Miles, we are not in flood waters, but lots of rain has fallen. Even had a couple of tornados fairly close, not much damage, but still scarey. Can't do much in the yard, but at least what is there is actually GREEN!!!
ttyal Lee btw Ruby, hope you have a really good sense of humor, you may need it with this bunch, but we all love each other!!!!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 9, 2011
1:52 PM

Post #8620571

Hi, Ruby, and welcome! Yes we are a diverse group, from all over the place. I live in the Sierra foothills in Northern California at about 3500' in elevation. We get snow here every year, but usually, no blizzards. This last year has been and exception as the blowing snow felled many trees in the area as well as "millions" of branches, large and small which we are still encountering, though most is cleaned up now in the acre near the house. We have 12 acres, though not all of it is usable. My husband hopes to change that with the new/old tractor he has purchased.

Then when the rain finally stops, it is summer! Where did spring go? I am with JB on that. It rarely rains in summer as it is usually hot and dry like the rest of CA in that manner. Most years we have had drought, but with the last 2 years, we are finally out of drought for now. Still, the plants will have to be watered as everything would dry up if we were to depend on rainfall.

So now I need to dash around until the heat becomes unbearable. Then I come inside and start ranting about the weather or something like that, though usually I leave that to JB as her weather is hotter, as well as others here. Now we need to visit jnette in the summer as it is nice and cool there. And instead of growing broccoli, peas, potatoes, carrots, onions and the like she wants to grow tomatoes and gardenias...go figure! I have all those growing now as we have had an unusually cool/cold spring, for the second year in a row, that I can remember. (Lee is another to visit during the summer, just bring your boat...)

Before that, I was recovering from shoulder and knee surgeries so I did not garden for about 3 years. Before that, I did not keep records. So, my left shoulder is still not fully functional, but I do the best I can as anyone who is passionate about gardening will find a way. It just takes me longer now. If I try and rush or lift too heavy things, I pay for it and the flow of work get an unscheduled interruption. I think I have learned that sometimes we will get those anyway, but when dealing with the frailties of our own aging bodies, we must allow for extra time, as the alternative will cost us even more time away from our projects.

Dave said:
...evelyn what is that silver plant i like its look. is it hardy? whats its name where do I find it?

Dave ~ It is Lychnis coronaria. A hardy biennial which is a prolific re-seeder. It loves full to part sun and will grow anywhere, but will do best in good, well-drained soil. Let me know if Dawn doesn't have any to spare... I just gave away about 100 plants to a girl who works in a nursery since the nursery owner could not take them since I no longer have a license to sell nursery stock. I wasn't trying to sell them, but I dug them out of an area in which I was designing a new garden. They did not fit in with the color scheme, but I do have them growing in other beds and wherever they planted themselves.

Dawn ~ If you have any plants to send to Dave, let us know. Otherwise I will send him some.

Whoops! UPS is here with my Bluestone order! Wow it was all 50% off! So I will be busy for a while...
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 9, 2011
2:53 PM

Post #8620657

Welcome Ruby: so tell us more about yourself what do you grow? got any pics to share? we love pics.

yes JB, myself and Linda will be on and off most of the month as its headed for summer and shipping becomes impossible so we have to get as much done as possible before the 2 - 3 month break ok well its a forced break but it beats heat exhaustion which I have tendencies toward. once you get it it hits hard and very easy to set it off.

not much to say today. I got in some garden mums to propagate from so they have to be planted as well as some other stuff I need to cut and stick. I am in the process of rearranging my prop tables. It seems I will gain an extra 6 or more flats so thats good news.

well I wont be on much the next 3 days because of a trip to a very important birthday party. it seems my youngest grandbaby is turning 1. I expect we will be at the pool a lot as well as just hanging out.
I will chime in once I get back. so everyone have a safe weekend
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 9, 2011
4:39 PM

Post #8620797

JB, I keep meaning to ask you how you managed to get your Aimees on Marketplace? LOL
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 9, 2011
5:15 PM

Post #8620863

Dave, I cannot believe that baby is turning a year old! Hope you and Kim have a wonderful time.
The heat here is killing everything. I am almost looking forward to the tropical storms and hurricanes just because we need the rain. ( no not really, but several days of rain is a nice thought and since my yard is like beach sand, it can only help the plants.)

Hi Ruby, I am glad you popped in. I think you will like it here. We are a bunch of nuts and we pick on each other a lot but it is all in good fun and nobody ever really gets mad about anything. Trust me we can all dish out as good as we get.

Dave and JB may be taking a forced break for the 2-3 months, but I won't be able to. I have big plans and lots of catch up work to do. I may not do much shipping, but there will be lots of cutting and growing going on.

Evelyn, I am drooling. What did you get from Bluestone? I have never found their 50% off sale. It is probably a real good thing though.I would go nuts.
The Lychinus Coronaria is hardy here, but I know it is warmer here in the winter than anywhere else except Katie's house.

Lee and Jnette, I definitely want to come over! Mom and I spent the day shopping first in the craft shops and then in the nurseries and I am here to tell ya, Its HOT HOT HOT! ( hey isn't that a song or something?) Tomorrow I have to work outside even if it is hot. I only bought 3 little ground covers, but I came home with lots of cuttings from Mom's house. I have also been given free reign to grow and propagate anything I want to in and from my brother's yard. Sounds like fun to me... I have been meaning to ask, did anything survive your puppy?

Katie, Where are you this week, I haven't seen you on much and I am missing Dawn too. Where did you all go?

Sea ya, Linda

hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 9, 2011
6:37 PM

Post #8621042

This is the pretty Fuschia plant link http://www.floridata.com/ref/L/lych_cor.cfm

Rose Campion is the common name. Likes dry crappy soil.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 9, 2011
7:34 PM

Post #8621197

It is a pretty pink plant. :)

Just checking in. Thanks for your well wishes about my hand. The specialist was sympathetic. Just because there are no visible broken bones doesn't mean it doesn't hurt! He gave me another 2-3 weeks lifting 1 lb only (i.e. no plant work) and follow up appointment on 6/27.

Well, my gardening is suffering as will my pocket book without a paycheck. Yeah, workers' comp will kick in soon, but a percentage of my average weekly wage is still not a whole lot. :D

Keep smiling and hoping for rain - we had a tiny Tstorm this afternoon. One of my 55 gal. rain barrels filled about 1/4, but the air was sweet when all the plants opened their stomata and breathed their collective sigh of relief.

Have a good night.

A.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 10, 2011
6:14 AM

Post #8621793

Dawn, I guess that is why the rose campion does so well in my yard. LOL I didn't have a clue what it was, but someone sent me some seeds in a trade and I tossed them into a flowerbed thinking I will get to them later. I never did, but I let them just grow where they would in that bed and I decided I loved them.
I got up early this morning and watered everything. It was so pitiful looking with everything suffering so much in the heat. I brought some cuttings from my Mom's house yesterday and so I will cut them to root today. I may go fill the flats and then bring them inside to work on it.
Don't know what the temps are now, but it won't be long until it is too hot to fight the bugs and the heat.
Well, it's time for coffee. then work. I am taking the brat dog to the vet today just for his check up and then I am free. Maybe I can even get in the studio for a little while.
See ya.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 10, 2011
6:17 AM

Post #8621803

Holy Cow, you were a chatty group last night. I thought when I came over to the new site I would be alone, instead I thought I was at the wrong place. First of all, may I say Welcome to our new East Coast Gal, Ruby. I love Virginia and am anxious to hear what you have growing. Send pictures.
We had a storm last night and about 1/4 inch rain. A little is better than none. This morning it is already near 80 and this day is going to be cooler. Yahoo.
I have been wanting to share with you some Iris from my collection. I am not sure if I sent you the latest. I am so busy socially i forget what I share with whom. (didn't that sound impressive?)
Don't you say a word Jenette...I mean it. BTW What do you mean how did I manage to get the Aimees on Marketplace? Not sure I understand the question. Speaking of Aimees, there are about a dozen plants outside in full morning and part afternoon sun just hanging out and loving the humidity. I will send you a picture of one of the blooms I had out there in that area this morning.
First let me show Dave the rust and orange Iris. You saw the Maroon and gold already and by the way none of these will be old enough or ready to sell for another year. I think it was Dave that ask me.

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 10, 2011
6:21 AM

Post #8621812

Here is the Aimee. This one is on the youngest stock plant. Her blooms are smaller than the older one.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 10, 2011
6:22 AM

Post #8621813

Thanks for the welcome everyone. Kind of in a hurry this morning, so won't tell too much about myself...yet. I can get very long winded, just warning everyone. I decided to drop by the propgation forum yesterday because of a growing interest in having more plants. My hubby and I are considering trying to get some financial return on our gardening efforts. Actually, he has been attending the local farmers market for a month or so selling Day Lilies and Iris we have so many of. When I have the time I will post a picture that a neighbor took of our place two summers ago I believe. We have a hillside with over 700 Day Lilies on it and the photo shows many of them in bloom heading up our steep driveway.

Looking forward to getting to know you folks better. Again, thank you for the warm welcome.

Ruby
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 10, 2011
6:23 AM

Post #8621815

What is the deal with the Aimee's JB and Jnette? I have gardenias everywhere, but that one seems so temperamental, I am not sure I want to try it. That is a pretty iris JB. I am struggling with my iris. They look sad. I don't know whether to feed them or leave them along. Maybe they are just resting after their bloom.
Well, must finish coffee and get something done.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 10, 2011
6:31 AM

Post #8621823

Linda, you and I have the right climate for the Aimee. I think Jen has a problem with the humidity and lack of sun. Plus she and Dave are the great "plant doctors" and they put all sorts of stuff on them to make them bloom. Now I do think Dave knows what he is doing, but the other one, I am not sure. I want to see some pictures of her plants pretty darn soon.

Here is an iris that just bloomed yesterday, it is a new one and so dainty and absolutely georgeous.

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 10, 2011
6:33 AM

Post #8621826

I am going to town and see what they are doing with my truck, plus get the chiropractor to put me together again and pick up the $10 I won on the lottery ticket. One of those scratch off babies. First win I had in a week or more. That will no doubt put me in another income bracket...later sweet people. Jb
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 10, 2011
7:49 AM

Post #8622007

Good morning all: a quick note.
Jb yes i want them all ...iris's that is.

Ruby: do you have picks of the varieties or will you sell them as a mixed color. you will get mor $$$ if you know the name and color. I am partnering with a friend on the edge of town. they have 5 acres and a huge hoop house. I will be needing lots of stuff to stock the shelves and stuff for growing on for next year. I know we want to do iris, daylilies and flowering shrubs.
I know we will be doing display gardens as well as selling area's. there is a pond so we will do a couple of willows I think. its all in planning stage now but I hope to get it hammered out this summer.

My cube will be called the undergrowth gardens home of pughbears pampered perrienial's. I want to thank Jb for help with the begging part of the name and I think it was jenn that came up with pughbears pampered perrienials. I hope to have the time next week to get it going.

I will be doing cuttings all summer long as long as i have room and funds for supplies.
Have a great weekend
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 10, 2011
9:31 AM

Post #8622171

JB!!

WHOM! WHOM!! BOOM! BOOM! BADDA BING BADDA BOOM!

Dem Joisey folks got nawtin on me!

Ya had to be there Dawn.

See, see, JB!! Even Linda says Aimee is cantankerous!

And JB, I only do what Dave (the expert) tells me, and here he says, and I quote: "I treat all my plants the same".

And Dawn, don't you dare kill those brugs I sent you. See JB, that's how it's done.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 10, 2011
2:50 PM

Post #8622620

[quote="rubyw"]Thanks for the welcome everyone...We have a hillside with over 700 Day Lilies on it and the photo shows many of them in bloom heading up our steep driveway.

Looking forward to getting to know you folks better. Again, thank you for the warm welcome.

Ruby [/quote]

Ruby, How does this sound...Hillside Daylily Farm? It just occured to me when I read your description. Well, maybe that name is too limiting as I think you might be interested in growing more than daylilies. Oh, well, it was just an idea.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 10, 2011
3:07 PM

Post #8622648

Jen, what are you sniffing, snorting or drinking?????????????????????????

I realize you and Dave have been raising plants for a long time and I think you should do exactly what you decide is best for your plants.

BUT, IF THE PLANTS YOU GET FROM ME DO NOT LIVE THRU WHATEVER IT IS YOU TO WINGNUTS DO, Please refrain from complaining to me or asking me what is wrong. I do not have time to waste. I am old, set in my ways and cranky.

I do not think it wise to make fun of Joisey people. The mafia is still alive and well here if you know where to look, and they take a very dim view of being made fun of. Just because they have those stupid reality shows on TV with dumb broads and stupid guys representing New Jersey, it does not mean the rest of the State is like that. We are more like the Soprano family here in my area. We smack/kick/spit/ and if necessary after all that, shoot first. Then ask you what you wanted. That is messy at times, but it does keep you on your toes to live that way. So watch your mouth woman, I may just jump out of your "puter" and pull your hair. Doesn't that just scare the living s*** out of you?

You know that Dave, I keep telling him I do not and will not have those Iris for sale for another season, and he still keeps saying he WANTS THEM...now????? I love him and I may have to hurt him too. I hate being the bad girl all the time.

I wanted to show you a picture of the "Dirty Dozen". Now this is an example of how tough we really are. This is a picture of some of my babies when I was raising parrots.
They are tiny "Pacific Parrotlet" chicks. The next to smallest parrot that exists. The tiny one in the middle without feathers is "Rover". He lives with me now and is a beauty. I kept him for my grandson, and he did not want him, so I still have him.

See you all tomorrow. Gotta have some wine for a change. Jen drives me to drink.

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AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 10, 2011
5:30 PM

Post #8622928

OH! My JB by that picture I know that you are really a softie and your bark must surely be worse than your bite. What a sweet group of babies that is. And Rover - sweetest of them all. :)
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 10, 2011
5:49 PM

Post #8622963

JB, if you read your prior post, you will notice that you were the one that was joking about using "whom". So, I just made a tune out of it. That was for you, and then you don't even appreciate it. You just get nasty and threaten me with your Joisey thugs.

I have no idea what show you are talking about. I do not watch Reality shows. I have seen the Sopranoes. And you think you are Tony.

And my, my, now you are threatening poor Dave WHOM you have always professed to love. With that kind of love I sure would not like to be on your hate list.

You must have had a terrible week to be treating Dave and I like that. I don't think it is right to take it out on your gardening pals when you can't stand your lousy weather.

I do hope your weekend is better.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 11, 2011
6:52 AM

Post #8623658

That does it Jenette, I am coming out and living with you. That way we can poke from morning until night. I can't keep up with this having to wait all night to see what you are going to do next. Don't poor Dave me. He knows where he stands with me. If he doesn't behave I will pull the plug on his pump. That will fix his little butt.

BTW Jen, don't you like my babies? Here is a picture of the Fabulous Five. These are Green Rump Babies I raised and they were all ready to be sold when they lines up like that and just looked at me. Man after hand feeding each one of them for weeks, you sell them when they are about 12 weeks old, it breaks your heart every time one leaves until you go to the bank. I was getting $200 to $300 a piece for them. Great business when business is good.

Katie: Are you o.k. I keep worrying she will get locked up at the border. Coming and going as she does.

Must get busy. Sat. is my day to putz around. Figure that one out. Hugs to all. JB

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AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 11, 2011
8:14 AM

Post #8623827

Ohh so sweet. My mom had a blue crown conure I was in love with him. When she passed he came to live with me. He was 25+ years old. He was found outside so we don't know how old he was exactly. I died a little when he left me. I had never known how wonderful it was to have a bird. Can't do it again though - need fewer mouths to feed, not more.

Love your pics, JB. You can cuss at me all day long. ;)

A.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 11, 2011
8:33 AM

Post #8623853

Jb, you can't show pics of your babies! i miss mine so much I want to cry. There is nothing uglier/cuter than a baby bird with no/almost no feathers. I have several of those pictures. My little maypop had the cutest expression of all. ( named maypop because he may pop out and bite you at any moment. I do miss them a lot.
I am ordering more strelizia seeds and starting over. The squirells shredded most of them. I may be able to save 1 or 2, but I don't know.

Amanda, JB and Jnette and even Sharon are really all softies at heart. LOL they just love taunting each other.

Jnette and Lee, I want to come visit till about october! I went to the grocery store this morning ( word to the wise: never run out of dogfood, catfood and coffee at the same time! it doesn't make for a peaceful morning in this house.) and it is already hot enough to take your breath away.
I didn't get the flats started yesterday, but I did make a new bracelet and earrings in the studio. I need to get of the computer and get some things done.
sea ya,
Linda
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 11, 2011
8:51 AM

Post #8623874

What a great bunch you all are. Thanks for the laughs...hope it is okay to laugh.

First off, couldn't get the picture I wanted to share to download here. I have posted it in the past so I know it can be done...will keep trying. I like your name Evelyn. So far we haven't named our place...just home.

Dave, when the majority of the Day Lilies came to us a few years back, they were all named. Due to tags being lost and things such as that, some we are not sure of the names of. My hubby is the one who inherited and did all the work with the Day Lilies so he is much more informed than I am. When they came, his folks had a list of 279 named ones, so we have almost that many with names at least. Most are just duplicates.

Oh yeah, we grow other things too though the weather last summer really put a hampering on my gardening, too hot and so far this year looks like another scorcher in our area.

Someone please answer me to whether you all are mainly just gardeners or is everyone here mostly trying to make a few bucks with their love of flowers? Haven't read back enough to know what brings most of you here. Kind of sounds like a lot of sharing with each other, but do you sell your plants in other places? Sounds like Dave has something big up his sleeves? I would love to hear about how each of you are doing, especially business wise. Thanks folks.

Hope everyone has a very pleasant weekend. Where are you Sharon?????

Ruby

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 11, 2011
9:24 AM

Post #8623914

Good grief, lock the doors and batten the hatches!! Here comes the wicked witch of the northeast! She has this big bag with shoes, sleeves hanging out of it, a plant with a big white thing on it, and of all things, a bird on her hat hanging on for dear life!

Live with me??? Not on your life! Just turn around and go back to your hot oven Northeast! You wouldn't survive out here in this cold. You would start whining the minute you got here until everyone in the area would run you out. We have no time for whiners out here. You gotta be tough.

And isn't it something when that old cash register ca-chings how the LOVE thing flies out the window with those birds. Barney watch out!! If she finds some way to make money out of you you will be gone too.

JB, you need to take your manners from Linda. Please note that she just wants to come "visit", not MOVE IN with me.

Ruby, in answer to your question, there are both here. REAL gardeners like most of US, and then there are ones like JB who can't do anything unless it makes some money for her. Dave is following his love of plants to make a business, and Linda is just trying to find the best way to do her jewelry business and propagate and sell plants too. The rest of us just do the best we can with whatever we can given the climates to just enjoy our yards.

I have no idea how we ever found each other and got started but it takes a diverse group like this to temper the volatile JB. We just don't know what to do with her. We keep trying to send her into the enemy camp (Cubits) to explode them, but she keeps coming back kicking and screaming even louder.

Good thing there is 3 hours difference in our time zone.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 11, 2011
12:55 PM

Post #8624167

Jenette, this is for you. So you don't want me to live with you, then here: So there.The picture is below. I could not send what I really wanted to because I would have been thrown off the list. You know how close we got to that one time, we do not want that to happen again. LOL.

O.K. be nice now, Ruby an Amanda are new and I am sure Amanda, being a lawyer has seen it all, but poor Ruby. She is no doubt a very nice person and this is not the place to teach her bad things.

I am not a gardener. I have a Certified Nursery in the State of New Jersey, certified and inspected by the State to ship plants anyplace in the continental US. I propagate and sell mostly tropicals and tender perennials Therefore, I charge for almost everything I send with the exception of the people on this list who treat me with the respect I deserve. I will sell anything that is not hooked to something else, that is true, but then to survive in NJ you need to be willing to give as well as take.

In fact today I put my S10 Chev Tahoe pick up down at the end of the lane with a for sale sign on it. I was going to give it away and then my dead husband possessed it when I said I was giving it away. and it would not start. He was a Marine and extremely cheap when it came to vehicles. Never give anything away. Only time he gave anything was to the Catholic Church, but I doubt that was his ticket to heaven. He was really a wonderful guy, but he had a drinking problem. He was a very good husband and provider ,sigh. back to business, the truck.

I paid for a new starter, a new ignition control module, and a new distributor and an exorcist and now I have decided after that, I can not afford to give it away, so i am selling the darn thing. $2750 to start. It is loaded and only has 119,500 miles on it. It is an extended cab and has a cap on the back.
Worth the money because the motor is a V6 and in excellent shape. It runs like a charm and is very quiet. It is considered a classic and if I had the time I would put it up on eBay and get more for it.
I am not into selling cars. This way my SIL can deal with them. I put his phone number on the sign. lol

Must do something constructive for awhile. I do love you all...I think...even that lady from the NW who keeps picking on me, a poor little old shy loveable, sweet, adorable...

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 11, 2011
2:23 PM

Post #8624311

JB, your hair is longer? But your skin is looking much better. Did you have some work done?

I am a little under the weather. I paid my worker and sent him home. I went back to bed but could not sleep. Now I am either hot or cold. Must be a bug. Probably all that moisture in the air in Washington state screwed up my lungs and sinuses.

I will return later. Sharon.

PS: welcome Ruby.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 11, 2011
2:36 PM

Post #8624338

Hey, Sharon, get well soon. I need help with keeping you know who in tow. She is getting so out of hand I am about to send some of Jersey boys to WA state to smack her around a little. I am afraid for them because she could hurt them worse than they hurt her. I heard about how they had her committed and she got out and has been living a new life ever since. That does explain the duel personality she has.
If you got a bug in WA state, I think you should be sure she was not behind that.

I had a nose job and bought a wig. I think the glasses are good too. That way she does not know who I am. I think.

Today I was happily surprised to see the Royal Jasmine and the Star Jasmine ( I think they are one and the same, but depending where you get them, they choose to call them both.) the close up at night and are purple, then when they open they are pure white and what a beautiful aroma.
I have to say goodnight now. I need to have dinner and try and recover from the lashing I got from the Queen of the Dirt in WA. Or is it the Dirty Queen. Oh well, sticks and stones you know the drill. Nite all. Love you. WHERE IS KATIE? KATIE...ARE YOU O.K.
Hugs to all, JB
Oh, I forgot to tell you. If you want to see the breeding room I had at the bird farm along with some pictures of the Green Rumped Parrotlets go to my store http:cubits.org/JB/store and click on Forums. You will see Laurel Run Bird Farm Memories and it should be there. Of course all of you will find it with the exception of the lady from outer space
in the NW. She never can find anything and it is always my fault. But, I lub her. I am going to live with her. Her hubby said I can. I ask him privately and he said yes. ya ya ya
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 11, 2011
6:58 PM

Post #8624803

Ya, ya ya. You lie. Did you get it out of your system now? You put a hex on my computer and I had to go to the tech support to have them get it out. I told them about you and they said they would fix you by jinxing the truck.

Oh, BTW, give me your SIL's phone number. I will buy that little jewel. She probably turned the odometer back. That is illegal in this state. We are honest here. Just those Joisey people who would do that.

And yes Sharon, can't you see the Botox in the picture? She tried 3 times, you can tell by her tongue. It is fat. And yes, her hair looks much better than before. Must have gotten a new hair dresser. She got it caught in the drawer. LOL, like that little joke?

You must be out there on your lawn mower running thru the trees and thinking all this stuff up. Each thing you think of you have to stop and write it down so you won't forget. No wonder you can't get past the first row of trees. You probably ran over the second row so your daughter and SIL wouldn't know you didn't get it done. Cut them right off didn't you. Come on 'fess up.

You better go to Mass tomorrow and go to confession and be sure to tell them the way you have been treating me. None of this watching on TV. The lazy man's church. Get your butt out of bed and try to clean your mind and soul. I want a big apology tomorrow for the way you treated me. (I probably won't accept it, but I want it anyway.)


Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 11, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8624820

I forgot to tell you that yes, she says she is not a gardener. She wouldn't know a root from a blossom. She pretends to make holiday arrangements etc. and she puts all the flowers in the water and the roots out of the vases. Then wonders why she still has them all left.

She pretends to be hoity toity with her "certification" and her birds. Don't think she has either. All she has is that poor little dog Barney that she makes him get up every morning and pull her all over the place and then says she and Barney are out for a walk.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 11, 2011
9:58 PM

Post #8625011

I will be the latest to welcome my old friend Ruby, she is the best. I am here more than anywhere now Rubes, so glad you are here.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 12, 2011
4:13 AM

Post #8625145

I found this forum searching for whether or not some of the fancy Echinaceas come true from seed, and found this thread. You guys are hilarious.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 12, 2011
7:37 AM

Post #8625398

Welcome Celene, I hope you realize we have some very sick people on this list. No, I am not one. I am just old, fat and ugly. They laugh at my picture but that was after the botox, this one is before. It is no fun being so old and ugly. You get picked on all the time. That is why I had the work done.

And by the way Jenette is only out for the weekend. She goes back to the "home" Sunday nights. You just have to not pay attention to anything she says. Especially if it is about me. Some poor souls just loose it at times and she sure lost it. She could not bear me having my face done and being so beautiful and she is still the same ole same ole.

Morning all you other loveable people. I am going to behave today. Mass was good and I am good so today is a good day for me. I am taking cuttings of the Peaches and Cream Cactus and transplanting some gardenias. They are so beautiful, it is too bad some people just can not grow them. Or kill them.

I may come back later but I am not sure. I do not want to tarnish myself today with the harsh words of some people. Oh yes, pure is good. Love you all, even you motor mouth .

Either the moderators have all fainted or they have given up on us Jen. I can not believe they are not giving us H. for our badgering. lol

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 12, 2011
8:52 AM

Post #8625508

Greetings all. This seems like a very fun group. Just the type I like. I just started reading a few days ago Celene, so you and I both are the newest here it seems. I found several people here that I knew from other groups I have been involved with in the past. Good people for sure.

I had a very busy and productive day yesterday. My hubby is doing some flea markets this year selling some of the different plants we have in our yard. I have decided to do a few houseplants and send them along and see how they do. Wish me luck. Later today I am hoping to get to a store and buy some decorative pots to pot some of the plants, and others I will just leave in nursery pots and charge less for them.

I am not a person who lets a plant die if I can help it. I have rootings going at all times. I spent several hours yesterday just working on the rootings in my small garden window in my kitchen. Some of my loveliest plants are ones that I just stuck pieces in to keep them alive and magically they grew and now look realy cool with some of the combination of plants I stuck together.

Here is hoping that everyone will have a very enjoyable day. Oh yeah JB, we visit Mt. Laurel NJ usually a couple of time a year. Are you close to there?

Ruby

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 12, 2011
9:19 AM

Post #8625558

Ruby, I am about 20 miles from Mt. Laurel, depending on where you are visiting. It could be closer but just have the Mt. Laurel address. I would love to see you. You keep on plugging away with your cuttings and you will have a ball. I find that when I do not have a name for something, if I joke around in the listing online, people buy it just for fun. For example, I had one I called JBs Mystic whatever it was, and people bought it. They saw a picture, but I did not feel like a real jerk not knowing the name. I was honest, I told them someone gave it to me and I did not know the name. The old story, or I lost the ID. which was no doubt the truth.
Many plants you purchase at places like Home Depot do not have IDsticks in them, so you really can not be sure if they are patented or not. That is what scares me. I do not intentionally want to reproduce some patented plant for sale.
I purchased four beautiful Easter Cactus to propagate. They were not advertised as being patented. When they arrived I found they were in fact patented in Canada so I called the distributor in Canada and ask if that was what the statement meant on the tag. Darned if it was for sure patented, now I have four plants that I can do nothing with except enjoy. Hate that. LOL Good luck to you and your selling. I am sure you will do great. Be sure to identify the plant correctly if you can. DG is very helpful with that. Later. I should not even be here, got things to do. Orders to process to ship tomorrow. Jb
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
12:22 PM

Post #8625863

JB, No smart assed question right now. All the roots are washed and pretty white. Can I just sprinkle a little pinch of Mychorrizae on them before I plant it? Please????

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 12, 2011
12:23 PM

Post #8625866

Good to know I'm at the right forum. I'm a crabby little old Italian lady in training. No sense of humor. Why bother, when you can hide in the garden.

I do at least try to save any cuttings or trimmings, to share with neighbors, clients, or trades here. I've given a lot of plants to a senior center, too. Those folks love a coleus, wandering jew or african violet.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
12:31 PM

Post #8625878

Sure wish that witch would answer me before my plants drown.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
12:53 PM

Post #8625905

Ok, JB, too late. They are going to be planted right now and you will never know if I did or didn't. You can cuss me out, beg me to tell you, or whatever but my lips are sealed. You will not ever, ever, know.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
1:58 PM

Post #8625986

You could have saved Aimee's lives. But noooooooo. You couldn't tell me could you? You just didn't want me to be able to say you killed my Aimees. That's ok, 'cause I will anyway.

You could have saved them both, or at least one.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 12, 2011
2:10 PM

Post #8626000

Happy Sunday everyone,

Hi Celene, It is nice to have some new people join us. We are all nuts, but JB, Jnette, and Sharon are the most outspoken of us. LOL The badgering is all in good fun and we all really do get along. Did you find out about the echinaceas? That would be interesting. I know that datura will not come true, in fact what I got from datura seeds that I knew were hybrid, looked like an entirely different plant.

Some of us here are gardeners, some are teachers ( dave) and some of us here sell our plants either through a nursery like JB, or online like Dave and myself.
I don't have any way to set up a physical business address, and I cannot run a business from my home, so everything I grow is either sold to people through word of mouth or online.

JB, if you lived closer, I would love to get that truck for Shawn. He has finally realized the vw bus is nice to have, but useless ( only because he is afraid to drive it) and he needs something practical to get back and forth to work. Star jasmine isn't the same as royal jasmine. Star jasmine is the same as confederate jasmine and is a trachelospermum jasminoides. The royal jasmine is a true jasmine. grandiflora I think.

Anyone want a 1971 VW bus with original upholstery. It runs and I drive it now and then, DS is just not able to grasp the no power brakes, no power steering thing. I also have the luggage rack that goes on top of it. If anyone is interested, send me a dmail and I can make you a sweet deal.

I found a website called patent genius and it gives you a list of patented plants. There was an interesting thread on another site that was debating whether patented plants could be propagated for your own personal use, or not at all. It got very heated at times but it was also very informative.

Jnette, I wouldn't give the Aimee anything until she gets re-established.

Sharon, I hope you feel better. It's a shame you can send your help my way. I have tons that I need to do, and no willpower to do them.

Hope everyone is having an awesome Sunday.
Sea ya, Linda
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
3:09 PM

Post #8626087

My sister bought a daylily plant for my other sister in CA. Would you believe!! She asked me how to send it, but she didnt' even consider the fact that you can't mail plants to CA. Don't know about bare root. I doubt even that. Anyone know?

I remember years ago driving down there with my sister in law. The usual questions at the border and we had a bag of oranges. My SIL pulled over to the side and made the kids eat all the oranges. LOL, she would not throw them away.

Wonder what she would have done if they said sorry the kids have oranges in them and they can't come in. LOL. Woulda been funny. huh? See why JB and I get along so well, I'm kinda warped too.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 12, 2011
4:04 PM

Post #8626210

I have plants sent to me both in and out of the state here and there but honestly I don't know how it gets through. They do still have that fruit check thing, though they wave most through.

Celene and Ruby I have talked to you both on other threads, though Ruby is a dear friend I met on another thread here. Most of the people have gone to the Cubits world. Ruby how are the babies? Not so babyish now probably? My 2 are adorable. I am still very poor at propagating, even with my propagator. Things usually get black or mushy before they root.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 12, 2011
4:09 PM

Post #8626217

I will let you know if the fancy echinaceas come true, I don't *think* these seedlings will bloom this year. What's the worst that'll happen? They'll be regular coneflowers, and I'll pot them up and give them away.

I played around at the...other world ;) and there wasn't much activity, it was probably a year or so ago.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 12, 2011
6:30 PM

Post #8626409

We all have but none of it feels the same to me. Unfortunately neither does here. I still like this better. We live on the edge not knowing if we will get a naughty finger pointing at us here, over there anything goes. lol Who needs that when you can call all your friends Old bags and wonder if you will get away with it!
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
7:01 PM

Post #8626461

LOL, Dawn, I think Terry and Melody are the only ones in admin and probably don't care like Dave did. I think he is the one that made those rules. Melody will probably come on and tell me I am wrong. LOL, she has ears.

Jeanette

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 12, 2011
7:04 PM

Post #8626469

Hahahaha..I'm wearing a t-shirt that says "This bag is not a toy".
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8626543

Well, I didn't get any guff out of threatening to kill my Aimees from her. You notice she took my advice and went to Church this morning. Mass. And probably confession for all the nasty things she said about me. I don't think she will be forgiven for those tho 'cause she was so bad.

I can't even think as nasty as she does. She must have been taking lessons from those people on Soprano. She thinks she is Tony. Talks like a trucker. (sorry guys) and rides a lawn mower with her hat flying like the wicked witch of the East. Poor little Barney trying to keep up 'cause she has hold of his leash and his little legs and wind can't do it so she is dragging him. She probably wears chaps like she is on a horse. Boy,I can see her in my mind. Terrible.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 12, 2011
9:27 PM

Post #8626760

Well, my one Brug the Tropical Sunset is doing fine, and recovered from the late freeze the defoliated them, but the other has given up the ghost. I am so upset. It just got hollow lower and lower down. It was not controllable. Sorry.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 12, 2011
9:50 PM

Post #8626780

Well, I am not going to grow my brugs past this year. Our season is just too short. But all I have are the Tropical Sunset and the white (can't even think of the name now,) but if you want I will try to send you another but it would be late, maybe October.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 13, 2011
1:48 AM

Post #8626903

I'm trying to convince my Snowbank Brugmansia not to die. It was 46 degrees here three weeks ago, that's just too cold for foliage to survive. I have an Angel's Blushing Beauty and Angel's Summer Dream, but this is the first year I've grown them and they're quite small, not that they get very large in the first place.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 13, 2011
6:02 AM

Post #8627132

Hey guys, I am OUT OF COMMISSION...My left leg, the one that the muscle or tendon or whatever the hell it is gave out, well, yesterday I was out in the greenhouse and I could not walk on it. I managed to get to the dog fence and up the steps in such pain wow, I did not like that. It was like someone sticking a knife in my leg. Anyhow I called the kids and they got me a walker and a cane and I started to ice it and heat it and all the you are to do with it. I do not know if it was a result of what the chiropractor did or not but I am waiting for my daughter to pick me up and take me to his office so he can fix it. If not, I will have to go to the stupid doctors office and go thru all the tests here and there and everywhere. He told me it was from sitting at the computer with my legs back under the seat and I pulled the muscles when I got up or something like that. It is all Jen's fault. And I do not care what you do with the Aimee. Stick it where ever.

I have orders to be shipped today but the P.O. is going to pick up the boxes tomorrow, so at least I can get them out. Then I guess depending on what this does and if I can drive, I will not take any more orders. I am almost sold out anyhow so it is o.k. if I have to shut it down. I will get back to you all later. Gotta go.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 13, 2011
8:14 AM

Post #8627455

Ouch JB, I am sorry. That sounds so painful. Ice, heat and aleve will probably be your best bet.

If any of you are deciding not to grow brugs, I will adopt some. ( I will gladly trade things for them) I lost most of my named varieties this past winter when it snowed. They were supposed to be hardy because they were planted in the ground, but I guess the snow was just too much for them. Anyway now I grow them in pots and just plunge the pots.

It is supposed to be super hot today, but it may rain. I am really praying for rain. I do need to plant a few little things that I bought when Mom and I went shopping, but I believe it will be an inside work day.

I gotta get started, I still need to do a few things in the greenhouse before it gets unbearable.
Sea Ya,
Linda
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2011
9:43 AM

Post #8627686

I can tell you what is wrong with your leg JB. It is the meanness trying to get out. And until you change your ways and quit accusing me of all that stuff, it will not get better.

I don't think you need a chiropractor. you get to a doctor NOW!! Quit messing with those quacks. I am not kidding. Get that checked out. Where was it hurting? If it wasn't a joint, then it could be a blood clot. Get in to a doctor and quit messing with the other.

I will see what I get from these 2 this year Linda. I know what the white one is, Cypress Garden. Last year I cut a half a dozen long cuttings with Ys off of my plants and sent both Dave and Dawn 2 each. Haven't heard how Dave's are doing.

Do yours die down to the ground each year? I have heard of them doing that in some areas. In mine, I have to pot them up and take them in the house each winter. I can only put them out on the deck 4 months at the most. By the end of the 4 months they are just starting to bloom and then it is winter and it starts all over again.

But if they die down to the ground each winter it must take quite a while to grow all the way back and bloom again doesn't it? Even my daughter in Seattle, zone 8 takes hers in in the winter. She grows them under lights in her rec room all winter.

Gotta run, JB, you do as I say this time. Get your butt to a doctor. A real doctor!!

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 13, 2011
10:01 AM

Post #8627715

I am back and it is not a blood clot. That was checked when it first happened. I will talk later. It is the muscle/nerve at the calf of my left knee. I have arthritis in that knee also and when I was in the greenhouse Sunday I bent down and moved some clay pots with orchids in them, not thinking, and pulled it again. He had just fixed it Friday and I was doing fine, of course I sat at the computer with my legs back and did my GH stunt on Sat. and Sun. and messed up the entire thing all over again.

I am not stupid. My doctor is not a quack. He told me today if I am not 50% better by Wed. I will need to go to my medical doctor for more tests. But, when he was finished in his office today, (I took my daughter in with me to be sure she knew what he was doing) I was able to walk out without the cane I walked in with. My Medical Doctor is completely comfortable with me going to the Chiropractor and they work together.

Not in the mood for games today. I did not sleep well. Talk later. JB
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2011
10:15 AM

Post #8627738

Sounds like a Charlie Horse.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 13, 2011
10:33 AM

Post #8627774

Yes Jnette, my brugs usually do die down during the winter. I think because this past winter was colder, I may have needed to take them in. I have 1 left, and it is missing a tag. If you decide to part with them keep me in mind, but if not, I have plenty of plants. LOL BTW the queens tears seeds now have wings.
Hope everyone else is having a great day, I am working on my todo list.
Linda
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 13, 2011
10:45 AM

Post #8627798

I tried growing brugs outside but that was a mistake. I read somewhere that they were hardy to zone 8. I don't think so, maybe zone 10 I learned later and now I have none. I do not have a lot of space or well-lit window areas in which to over-winter them or a greenhouse. Jeanette, when you overwinter yours, do you let it go dormant, almost dry, or keep it watered in a nice sunny window? In my foolishness, I put them in my peach-of-a-garden, but they never grew and of course, died in winter. I had Charles Grimaldi and some other peach colors.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 13, 2011
11:57 AM

Post #8627924

You can let them go dormant, that's how I overwinter them here. Little or no light, dry enough so they don't sprout leaves, and they live pretty well year to year.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2011
4:01 PM

Post #8628243

I have done both. The first year I had any I had one blooming in my bedroom in December. Guess that is what got me going. Even when I fought mites and aphids all winter. When I have room in my pantry in the basement I just water them3 or 4 times during the winter and they do get weak growth because it isn't quite cool enough but it is dark. Last winter I just left them in the kitchen and they did ok but the Cypress Garden got something not long ago and lost all it's leaves. Now it is sprouting leaves again.

If I repot them now and fertilize and water they will get 8 feet tall with tons of Ys and bloom the end of September. Not worth it. My daughter always tells me I am too good to them. Others have told me to beat them with rolled up newspapers every day. etc. etc.

I definitely will remember Linda.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 13, 2011
6:29 PM

Post #8628527

Mine start blooming in July. I use the Bayer fertilizer/systemic granules plus Marathon to keep the bugs down, brugs certainly seem to encourage whiteflies and aphids here.

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

June 13, 2011
7:21 PM

Post #8628650

Ok, I go away for just a few days and your guys have diarrhea of the fingers on the keyboard... have some cheese and slow down...

I've not been able to read everything (but will), I just wanted to say welcome to Ruby, this is a great group of folks who have lots and lots of wonderful knowledge that they share very openly.

Ok, got to get in bed so I can get up and go to work tomorrow... I really need a night job, but really I'm just thankful to have a job...

Jan
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 13, 2011
8:33 PM

Post #8628794

Well I am back and Jnette, leave JB alone. JB, I do not know how you put up with her. Maybe all that moss and mold I saw in Washington has invaded her brain. She seems nastier than usual.

Yes, we do talk about gardening here sometimes.

They grow Brugs in Arizona and they do very well. I do not need another obsession. I have two plumerias that are getting ready to bloom. They are in a pot and stay in my mother's old room totally dry for the winter. Some individuals take them out of the pot and hang them in the garage soil less.

I went to the physical therapist today and she worked on my shoulder. First day I have felt normal. I have a nail and dental cleaning tomorrow. Then i can hit the garden and get caught up.

My tomatoes are ripening but my peppers are just sitting there and no growing. I am going to dig around them tomorrow and see what is going on under ground.

Flowering Purslane plants are showing up at the nurseries. I have 5 and need about 7 more. They take the heat, bloom all day but I am only using one color in one area, rose/orange and some yellow in another. I am going after my nail appointment to search for my colors. My blue garden is not going to be a blue garden. I will post a photo when I get done.

OK, Dave where are you? The weekend is over. Lee where are you.

Jnette, back at you. Love you all, Sharon.

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2011
8:57 PM

Post #8628837

LOL, Sharon are you going to clean your teeth with your nails, that way they will all be clean? ROTFLMAO

What the hell do you mean leave JB alone? She was 10 times worse to me than me to her. She is a Witch with a B. So there JB. Take that in the leg. I just kicked you. Did you feel it? Right in the calf of your leg? LOL

So Celene, you say you do them as Roses? I have done that before, but mine do not bloom in July. Lucky to have them bloom at all I guess. That is why I don't care about them and am going to send them all to Linda as a booby prize.

Jan, you cannot go away and expect us to just stop. We do have that thing you called us diarrhea LOL of the fingers. Did you ever think of getting glasses? Maybe your eyes are crossed. You need to read faster.

You all better hope JB gets back soon 'cause I have to be nasty to someone.


AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 13, 2011
10:13 PM

Post #8628939

Okay, here's a REAL propagation question I've been ruminating about for a couple of years.

I read eons ago in one of my many gardening/houseplant books that you could induce side shoots on tall leggy plants (think dracena). I'm remembering that it involved making a cut in the stem/trunk, covering with plastic wrap, adding root hormone (?), something . . ...

I am caring for a very large norfolk island pine which is spindly and could use some new growth beneath the boughs where old boughs have fallen away from drought/neglect.

Does anyone have any thoughts on whether this is possible with a pine? Let me have your thoughts please.

Thanks.

A.

p.s. JB - I swear by chiropractic treatment. Hope you're feeling spry again soon.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 13, 2011
10:21 PM

Post #8628956

Up,kinda late aren't you Amanda?

I have heard of that method also, putting a small chip of something, toothpick or something in to hold it open a little putting a wad of peat moss or something and wrapping in plastic, air layering. But, have no idea about pines. How tall is the Norfolk?

How long are you caring for it? You could try it and if it doesn't work buy one just before the owner claims it and tell them you tried it and it worked. LOL, the devil in me.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 13, 2011
11:08 PM

Post #8629014

I heard about that too but never tried. I have the most success by cuttings put in a pot full of water sorb crystals and a little soil mix, with sprinkler water keeping it moist. I also take a piece of the end of a plant that has a long stem or branch, dip it in hormone and sink it in the ground until it grows roots and then I cut it off the plant and put it in a pot till the roots are stronger.

I have a little Brug that dies to the ground each year and never gets big, but I get a flower or three on it. I moved it when dormant and it is about 9 inches tall at this time. So we will see. It is in a sunnier spot.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 14, 2011
5:49 AM

Post #8629288

Jntte:

I used to be a heavy-duty night owl. When the internet was fresh, I found a lot of people were still awake in other time zones (CA, TX, AZ, CO, WA) when I came home from work and my brain was still zippy. 12:30 a.m. seems kinda early - made me laugh to think about chatting away at my computer in Boston in 1996 when AOL chat rooms were a whole new world and I was awake till 3 or 4 a.m.

About the pine - I'm in a master's program and have adopted the plants on the 5th floor in one of the main buildings for my degree program. They looked like when I started in August, 2009. Turns out some of them belonged to an older woman who had back problems and walked hunched over. She couldn't even SEE that the tops of her pine were browning! That pine is over 10' tall and pressing up against the ceiling/windows. There's no where to move it to. She and I have discussed lopping off 2 of the main trunks which are hitting the roof to allow the third, smaller trunk to develop. This tree doesn't need any branching. I needs a haircut!

There is another pine which had been abandoned by someone . . . together with some sanseveria and some kind of succulent. This one is over 6' tall. This is the one whose boughs have fallen away underneath. I'm not doing it to make more plants. It's purely aesthetics, I guess, but I have been wondering about it now for 2 whole years!!! :D

I will be finished with my program at the end of fall semester. Maybe into spring, so I have some time. I have been removing these plants since it concerns me when I can't get to Raleigh to water during the summer or over holiday breaks (it's 79 miles one way).

The pines are the largest plants there. A fairly large ficus remains, though it could be pruned to fit i my car. :D

There's also an umbrella plant that has been neglected. Funny - last summer I poured water in the pot and an ant hill came pouring out! On the 5th floor! And after I'd been watering it for months! Crazy.

Anyway. It's not the first time I've adopted plants in public places. But those are stories for another time.

Thanks for your thoughts and comments.

A.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 14, 2011
6:45 AM

Post #8629400

mornin all...I am kinda blue today. my grandfather fell out of a wheel chair and broke his knee and 3 ribs. its a bad thing when you are his age.

Amanda you are talking about air layering. it works quite well when you use long spagnum peat moss not the stuff they mix with soil and comes in bales. what you do is peel back a small part of the bark and treet with rooting hormone take we moss and wrap it around the trunk and hold it in place with plastic wrap or some other way. keep the moss wet and in a few weeks you should have roots. once you have enough roots cut off the rooted part and plant.

Who pea'd in JB's cheerio's earlier she really got a head wind and ran with it. You know me I want it all and i want it now, but if I have to wait I will... I'll just puff up and sit sadly in the corner waiting for the plants to grow.

grand abaies wer a hoot had a great time. i am just mooving slow today might do a small bit outside and go back to bed. its one of those days. a great bday party with 15 - 20 screaming kids from 7 and younger. lots of I skinned my shin and bumped my head booboo's but all in all it was great. as it was lillies bday we had a frog themed party. I will post pics later. gotta get moving
see ya l8er
Dave
Dave

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 14, 2011
9:25 AM

Post #8629744

ROFLMOAO Oh Dave, you made my day. I read "who peed on her cheerios" and just got hysterical. OMG that really hit my funny bone. Barney thought I lost it I was laughing so hard outloud.
I am still alive, still kicking and Jen will be sorry when I get back to my old self. I will let Sharon take her on for the rest of the week. I is resting with ice on my knee..
I get more work done with one leg than Jen gets done in a week with two.
I packed five orders this morning and two went to CA bareroot. The post office is picking them up this afternoon since I can not drive today. I am hoping I can drive tomorrow. I just do not feel I can get into the jeep and carry boxes into the post office, so I got them to come here.
I cleaned the bird room, did two loads of laundry and now I am going to feed the dogs and make a grocery list so the kids can get me some groceries. I could go and do it but I can not unload them when I get home unless I make forty two trips in the house and the leg will not let me do that. It is 75% better. I can bend it to put socks on and I was able to sleep with it bent last night. He had to stretch the hamstring and the other muscles yesterday in my leg, plus put pressure on a spot just behind my knee cap to release whatever was locked up. As soon as he did that I was able to walk.I have one sore spot and It hurts when I turn quickly but otherwise, it is better. When you get older, you can not move too fast and that is what I do. I forget I am going to be 83 because I am always moving fast.
I have cuttings to plant and pots to clean this afternoon but I must take a break first or I will be back in trouble again. I MAY NOT SIT AT THE COMPUTER WITH MY LEGS BACK UNDER ME. EVER AGAIN. Thanks for your concern everyone. I appreciate it.

I am delighted to see this thread talking about propagation again. That is a plus.It is so nice to see new faces and those old ones returning to chat. Love you all and thanks again for your thoughts. JB


Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 14, 2011
9:39 AM

Post #8629771

I guess I'm the guilty one Dave. I peed in JBs Cheerios. LOL and I'll do it again if she doesn't change her ways.

Sharon, you better heat up your computer 'cause JB is claiming sick. She finally gave up. She couldn't think of any more bad stuff to say about me. She is sitting there with her notepad and pen straining her pea brain and can't come up with anything.

Well, gotta go fertilize the tomatoes. I'm telling you, this month of June is colder and wetter than last year which was the coldest and wettest one on record. We didn't get one ripe tomato last year and it doesn't look like much better this year. I just told Bob we were going to have to close in both ends of the hoophouse again to heat it up in there. It is only 64 in there now with the reflection of the clouds on it. Would say sun but don't know how to spell it any more it has been so long. I think we have had 2 days above 70 so far this year. And that was like a degree or 2 over 70.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 14, 2011
9:47 AM

Post #8629789

Hey you old bag, you just cannot keep quiet can you? Even have to tell us how hurt you are that the postoffice has to come to you and then tell us all the crap you are doing instead. What a phony. Just trying to get someone else to do half your work.

And your kids fall for it and go to the store for you. Can't you find someone else to do the mowing while you play with the birds and do the fun stuff. Be sure you have all the bandages on before you answer the door, someone might catch you and know what you are doing.

You wouldn't know what propagation means. You use plastic Aimees to take pictures of and then send out dead plants to unsuspecting people like me.

You just sit there and play with your jacks while everyone else does your work for you.
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

June 14, 2011
5:20 PM

Post #8630671

You all crack me up. I can't get a word in edgewise, and thats unusual. But then I can't top your antics anyway.
Sharon, what happened to your blue garden???? didn't my starts start for you? Mine are getting ready to bloom. Did you need more starts?
JB those little birdies are sooooo cute. Reminds me of my Bandit when I first got him. He was still being fed via spoon when we got him. Love those birds, but he is the only one I have left.
No flowers blooming yet, has just been too darn cold. Thunder, lightning, and lots of rain is almost drowning the little buggers.
Jen stop sending it over here, please.
Welcome to everyone. Later, Lee
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 14, 2011
7:39 PM

Post #8631061

Gosh Lee, I thought you were out there paddling around in your canoe. You have to speak up. Now how long have you been around? You know darned well that all you have to do is type in whatever you have to say.

LOL, I am not going to scold you any more Lee. I give you know who enough. You guys had enough from both of us. Sorry you all.

I sure wish I had better things to send to you Lee. We have even a colder and wetter June than we had last year. If I didn't have the plastic over the hoophouse I would not get any ripe tomatoes this year. I am hoping I will anyway. The plastic does get them heated up and the plants really look good.

I wish I could say the same for my container plants. The perennials that have been in the ground for years seem to be holding up good. We need to go out and clean up all the old crap from last year. Haven't gotten to that yet. Seems like there is just too much to do and not enough hours in a day.

Now Bob has a computer. My daughter got a new laptop and gave him her old one. Same as the one I have. She wanted a bigger screen. Nothing wrong with the one she gave him. But, now he plays with the computer instead of working outside. And I am no better.

A lady on here who is a quilter, is interested in buying my Bernina sewing machcine. So, I spent the morning researching them. I had bought it at an estate sale. However, once again the weather was crappy.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 14, 2011
8:01 PM

Post #8631094

Thanks for the thoughts on how to propagate new plants, but I am not trying to propagate new plants. I want to encourage new growth/side shoots, not roots.

I will keep looking. :)

A.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 14, 2011
9:08 PM

Post #8631180

If you top out a hardy hibiscus, it causes the plant to create more branches and get more bush like. Maybe that will do the same thing with your pine tree.

I have physical therapy tomorrow so I will not start in the landscape until Thursday. We are suppose to get cooler by then. Suppose to be 105 degrees tomorrow and then back into mid 90s. Mid 90s are OK as long as you follow the shade and hydrate.

Lee, your plant is starting to send up shoots. But just starting. I will check tomorrow and take a photo.

I had a tomato, cucumber, Vadelia onion, bib lettuce sandwich for dinner. Delicious.

JB, I am sorry but I cannot keep up with Jnette. No challenge. Sharon.

PS. I want a full poster size photo of "Wiener". Nothing to do with that he is a democrat. I do not care. But what man in his right mind would think that was a great body.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 14, 2011
10:15 PM

Post #8631262

A man Sharon? What about those women? Must be awfully hard up.

Amanda, if you wanted side shoots, why didn't you just cut it off? We all thought you wanted to start a new plant that had a good shape. You could do both by doing what they said to root the top, have a good shaped new plant, and then cut the stalk off and it would get side shoots.

Had no idea that is what you wanted to do.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 15, 2011
2:13 AM

Post #8631365

It's funny, no matter how they look, men think they're fantastic. Women, they examine every flaw.

I am waiting to hear how air layering or pruning works for the NIP. Mine will ultimately need it, and it's a plant my husband picked out because he likes it. I'd hate to make a mistake with our "Christmas tree".
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 15, 2011
6:53 AM

Post #8631643

Mornin all:
sharon is the chip monk to confuse jeanette and JB? we all know shiney things distract them and then they are going in a new direction...

In order to encourage side shoots you need to at a min. remove the tip of a plant. Its whats called apical dominance. removing the dominant bud causes side shoots to grow more vigerously.
are we going to try the air layer on the northfolk island pine? I have seen them in south florida with a trunk about the size of a man hole cover so it might be a while before you have to take the tip. be aware that it will look funny once done. A lot of people just toss the tree out after christmas as its served its calling.

as far as air layering goes I recomend using like the cling wrap. it sticks together and lets you see when the roots hit the side of the plastic. here is a link ti show some of the how to
http://www.ehow.com/how_5086532_propagate-hibiscus-air-layering.html

I hope this helps. if you get confused please ask and I will try to straighten the confusion out. after all we don't need to reinvent the wheel.
well its time to get moving. i got in my flats of plug trays yesterday so now to get a few filled and hopefully sell a few.
Have a great day today i am still recovering from yesterdays storms. strong winds snaped electric poles in OKC so all we got was a good soaking rain and we did need it.
TTYL
Dave
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
7:05 AM

Post #8631663

Where do you guys have these Norfolks? In the north they are normally seen in hotel or building lobbies. Or very small ones sitting on a table with marble size Christmas ornaments on it. And like Dave says, usually end up getting thrown out. If in the south, are they outside? Ohio, Celene, where do you have it?

That probably makes a difference Dave whether or not they air layer them or go for side shoots or- - - - - I would think they would look funny with more than one main shoot. Guess you had to be there.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 15, 2011
7:29 AM

Post #8631701

My NIP was an after-Christmas 90% markdown several years ago, it was about four inches tall, in a teeny ugly pot and looking puny, my husband wanted to grow it into a Christmas tree, so we invested the fifty cents and bought it. It's now about 2.5 feet tall, and thus far doing well in Al's gritty mix soil, I only started using that two years ago, but a spectacular difference in the health of the tree.

Tropical hibiscus? Gah. Spider-mite-having, scale-attracting, leaf-dropping prima donnas. I can't get one to live. I want to; I try. I have the special hibiscus soil and hibiscus fertilizer and researched carefully how to care for them and did every single thing. I treat them with marathon and avid, and they flip me a middle finger and die slowly no matter what I do. So...the heck with them, I'll grow a plant that likes me. Like episcias or plectranthus or spiderworts or euphorbias, who share my surly gardening vibe.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
8:09 AM

Post #8631770

Hmmm, 2 1/2 feet huh Celene? Then what are you going to do with it? I still say, what do you do with them in OH?

You are so right about your deduction of men vs women Celene.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 15, 2011
8:12 AM

Post #8631775

What will I do with it? I probably have 5-10 years before it outgrows my living room. I'll make DH build a conservatory for it? I've always wanted one... He does love that tree.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 15, 2011
8:37 AM

Post #8631824

it will be a huge one as they go like 40 to 50 ft tall

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 15, 2011
8:40 AM

Post #8631830

I'll have to figure out air layering or dwarfing by then. I do okay with Ficus benghalensis, F. religiosa, and some willows in containers.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 15, 2011
8:45 AM

Post #8631842

Try the air layering on the ficus. its kind of fun. so what part of columbus are you in? I spent a bunch of years in grove city and then a few years just south of westerville.
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
8:54 AM

Post #8631853

Well Celene, I love the conservatory idea, however, you could keep it any size you want by the size of the pot.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 15, 2011
9:01 AM

Post #8631872

My husband quips that he doesn't want it to get taller than him, so he doesn't have to crawl up a ladder to decorate it. LOL

My ficus at this point haven't needed air layering, though I did buy a Ficus allii at bLowe's on the distressed plant rack, and we'll just say I failed to air layer it successfully. I'm more skilled at that sort of thing now, so I'm pretty sure I could kill one more skillfully if I found one today.

I live in happy hippie central, Clintonville.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 15, 2011
10:30 AM

Post #8632094

I am not sure where that is as I was young when we lived there. moved to florida when I was 13.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 15, 2011
11:40 AM

Post #8632207

Jeanette ~ Do you have any rhodies, ferns, hostas or any shade plants for your climate? Do you like to eat any of the cool-season veggies? (Broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, lettuce, carrots, celery, radishes...) It seems as though the tomatoes for you are more than a challenge for you. (But then, we all seem to like a challenge, huh?)

Right now our temps are finally into the 80's so summer is here and will be for 4 or 5 months, then winter. If we are lucky, we will get a few weeks of fall-like weather, before it is cold. So I have finally planted a few tomatoes, peppers and eggplant. Next on the list is beans and I might try corn this year, now that the pine tree blocking the sunlight to the veggie garden has been felled. Before all I could do was grow aphids and corn smut...not very pretty! I would like to try again. I know it is late to plant these but before it was too wet to get into the gardens, and now I have a lot of weeds - again! Even the mulched gardens were full, except the new one in which I applied the corn gluten pre-emergent. Only a very few amount of weeds in there. At least I can see the plants. So if anyone wants to know where I am, just tell them I am weeding!

Lee ~ Glad you are finally out of the water!

Sharon ~ What happend to the "blue garden" idea? The pink rain lily bloomed yesterday.

Celene ~ That conservatory idea is a great one. I wish I could figure out how to convince my hubby to build one too! I would love to have some citrus and avocado trees in there. Let us know if you are successful in your plan.

JB ~ You run circles around all of us, not just Jeanette. I cannot keep up with you! Whew!

So I will just go outside now...

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Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 15, 2011
12:48 PM

Post #8632391

Clintonville is northeast of OSU campus, an older neighborhood. East North Broadway, Weber, Calumet, etc.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 15, 2011
2:03 PM

Post #8632519

[quote="AmandaEsq"]Okay, here's a REAL propagation question I've been ruminating about for a couple of years.

I read eons ago in one of my many gardening/houseplant books that you could induce side shoots on tall leggy plants (think dracena). I'm remembering that it involved making a cut in the stem/trunk, covering with plastic wrap, adding root hormone (?), something . . ...

I am caring for a very large norfolk island pine which is spindly and could use some new growth beneath the boughs where old boughs have fallen away from drought/neglect.

Does anyone have any thoughts on whether this is possible with a pine? Let me have your thoughts please.

Thanks.

A.
[/quote]


Sorry if I confused everybody with this post. Not sure how I feel about topping it. Will let you know.

I will take and post a photo of the pine(s) next week when I head down to Raleigh for a meeting. They are inside against full floor to ceiling windows. East facing-ish. I think.

Thanks.

This message was edited Jun 15, 2011 4:06 PM
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 15, 2011
3:03 PM

Post #8632653

LOL Amanda no problem we tend to key in on one thing and run it into the ground. ok not always but we do try to help each other.
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

June 15, 2011
6:09 PM

Post #8633012

Amanda, I have several of these nfp bought also after Xmas over several years. I have tried to top them, to no avail, but if you notice, there are always several trees in each pot, so what I did, was add several smaller trees, and repotted in a larger pot. They have filled in where the taller ones lost limbs and look great. I have two that are about 5ft tall, and a couple of smaller ones., I know it doesn't answer your question, but it does give you an option to make them look nicer. Hope it helps a little.
By the way I have put up the canoe for now, and am ready to take the hair dryer out to the babies. Give me a couple of weeks and I will be crying about it being too darn dry>>>>>>Go figure. Sounds like Jen is sending more rain tho, so don't anticipate much drying anytime soon
Later all, Lee

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 15, 2011
6:34 PM

Post #8633055

>> It's funny, no matter how they look, men think they're fantastic.

The best example of that is the extra-selfish male lawyer "Fish" in Ally McBeal.
He told someone that he was an EXCELLENT lover.

"How do you know that?"

"Because I'm always satisfied!"

Corey
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
7:15 PM

Post #8633143

Corey, go back to sleep. LOL That is funny.

Lee you are so smart. What a cool idea for the NIPs.

Evelyn, you are not going to believe this, but my tomatoes look the best this year than they have in many years in this the wettest, coldest, June ever.

I have fed them Dave's magic elixer and covered the hoophouse with visqueen so they get the reflection light from the CLOUDS AND, I also have a half a dozen 5 gallon carboys full of water that heat up during the day so I water them with that warm water every other day. THEY LOVE THAT WARM WATER ON THEIR TOOTSIES.

Remember I have these in alfalfa bales.

Yes Lee, more rain is on the way. It, and the snow from your mountains, has filled up the river. I am sending you a picture of the resort a few miles down the highway from me.
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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 15, 2011
8:19 PM

Post #8633252

Well Lee, that is a wonderful idea with NIPs.

We hit 105 degrees today. It was probably higher but the Chamber of Commerce probably will not let them make that public knowledge. I had PT nd my shoulder is 95% better. Housekeepers were here esrly so did not get much done except PT and taking the dogs for a walk.

I am gardening all day tomorrow and Friday. Gardeners will be here later in the afternoon so I will go out early and trim everything. That way, they pick it up.

Evelyn, all the bulbs for my blue garden are still in the fridge. I will have to plant them in November. Just did not have enough time because of all my plant obsessions.

My hardy hibiscus are getting ready to put on buds. The black bamboo is still in the holding garden and not looking very good. My neighbor said I could get some more and if it does not perk up, I will do so.

Celene, what spiderworts do you have. I have a total white, a white with blue stripe, a blue, a variegated leaved blue and a deep purple. They, along with oxalis, are one of my new obsessions. And cannot forget double bloom oleanders.

I again want to state that I have never seen so much water as the amount I saw in Washington state. I am from the desert and do not travel much but that is a bunch of water.

Lee I saw on the map where the Missouri River goes across half of your state. We need to determine how to get it goes West just a little bit and thrn it csn flow into the Colorado River.

Last, Jnette, I did not even want to bring up the low life women that responded to the tweets. Of course, there is always one in Las Vegas. Looks like she is going to get fired.
NHL was on NBC tonight so hubby was watching Entertainment Tonight. They had the 10 most handsome men bodies. OMG, now I really do want a poster.

Rick, I love your sense of humor. Later friends. Sharon.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
8:34 PM

Post #8633276

Sharon, quit collecting plants until you take care of the ones you have!!! Don't listen to her about the spiderworts Celene. She doesn't need any more plants. She will just put them in the refrigerator and let them die.

A poster!! Good grief. Sounds like something JB would do.

You just leave that Missouri river alone Sharon. You people from that area try to take other people's water and cause all kinds of problems. It would end up in the Columbia and we sure don't need any more water here. Guess Arnold told you to keep your hands off of it didn't he. He wants it for So. Cal.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 15, 2011
8:44 PM

Post #8633288

Jnette, my landscape is a traffic stopper. I have Blue berries that probably cost me $64 for about 12 Blue Berries. I have tomatoes that probably cost at least $50 a pound.

Celene, do not listen to that old hag. She has mold on her brain.

Jnette if it was done right it would not hit anywhere near the Columbia. But we need the unit from the US Troops that put the air port back in order after the earthquake in Japan. Actually we should just appoint all those young men to Congress and kick out everyone currently there..
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
9:28 PM

Post #8633345

Good Heavens, Sharon finally woke up! You better watch out Sharon, JB is going to come on here in the mornin' and start yellin' that we said too much for her to comprehend.

So if your plants are so gorgeous Sharon, how come they don't produce anything? Don't you have any bees down there? You probably stomp every one of them you see. Ya gotta have bees!! It is probably too hot down there for them to come out. Here it is too cold for them to come out. Go figure. Bet they are all over there in Stockton where my sister lives? She is in the produce belt of the nation. Things produce almost year 'round there. I said almost.

WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 15, 2011
9:36 PM

Post #8633353

Well Jnette, we have bees. We have birds. We have hookers. We have police. We have plenty of Sun. We have no Rain. We have enough Bees to pollinate but no enough water to grow vegetables. You need to watch the PBS White Cadillac. Old special showing how California stole the water from the rest of the Western states. Now Las Vegas is trying to steal it from the "cow counties".

I love bees, birds, worms, everything but Democrats. LOL. ROTFLMAO (Everyone else, this is an inside joke) (Please do not be offended if you are a Democrat) Sharon.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2011
9:59 PM

Post #8633370

She's just trying to cover her butt so nobody sneaks up behind her. You know Sharon I was not the only one to vote and voted millions of times. I am not that old to have time enough to vote that many times. So you better watch out what you are saying.

Well then Sharon, you cannot complain about paying $64 for a lb of Blueberries and $50 a lb for tomatoes. Not only that you probably have never tasted a decent tomato. To tell you the truth it has been a long time since I have had a good tomato. But I sure do plan on having some decent ones this year and if I could figure out how to do it I would even send you some good tomatoes 'cause I swear if nothing else, unless I find a house to buy and move, I am going to have good ones this year.

Well, I can hear JB hollarin' at us now so I am going to bed and put cotton in my ears. nite.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 16, 2011
1:16 AM

Post #8633523

Every time I open this thread, I laugh out loud.

Moldy brain? No problem, it's rained a lot here, mine probably is, too. Good thing I look stunning in blue-green. It goes with my purple hair.

Spiderworts...I have more tropical/wandering jew types. The hardy ones are sooo floppy, and I bought a variegated one--something Bride, blushing? It actually stays variegated for fifteen minutes in May each year, then reverts. For the tropicals, I have a couple of Dichorisandras, many tradescantias (my favorite is Purple Plush, which I almost lost last winter), Callisia fragrans, Callisa fragrans variegated, Gibasis, Tinantia, and I'm trying not to kill another Campelia.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 16, 2011
8:06 AM

Post #8633958

well aint that a surprise. I beat JB to the mornig post lol
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 16, 2011
8:18 AM

Post #8633973

I got a disterbing email yesterday from a seller friend on the other site. she has a bunch of plants she wants to move. she is threatening to compost them after monday so i thought I would post the site and let you see if there is anything you might want from her list. If you send me your email address I will forward the email. basically its as follows

10 plants 16.00 and 27 plants 33.75 here is the spreadsheet to see the list of the plants
https://spreadsheets0.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en_US&key=trpG0-kkEGoTn5kCjVaw2ug&hl=en_US#gid=0

Here is the link to all the info http://cubits.org/flowersnursery/thread/view/58907/

as some of you know I do share specials i run across from time to time.

Jeanette: sharon is having trouble with tomatoes because the pollen becomes unviable at 90 degrees so I am guessing she has a narrow window of prime time to get flowers polinated.

well I will be a busy bee today as we got a frog strangler early this morning. sounded like someone opened the flood gates. we had 40 mph winds which wiped out my shade house. luckily its just snap together so nothing is damaged.
Stay cool
Dave
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 16, 2011
8:40 AM

Post #8633993

Morning All,
You are all too funny. Corey, I too love your sense of humor. It seems to match mine.
I am working a little bit this morning, but then I am off to spend the afternoon with Mom. I am cutting hydrangea, gardenia, camellia, azalea and akebia today. hopefully I can get some started soon.
I looked at the list for flowers nursery. It looks as though she has some great plants. I have my hands full right now, but if you get another of those notices, please let me know.

hope everyone has a wonderful day.
Linda
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
9:46 AM

Post #8634127

I still am confused about what you can and cannot do with patents. I have my Nine Bark that is getting new growth and needs pruning. But no point in making new plants and giving them away if I will be breaking the law. JB? Dave?

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 16, 2011
9:49 AM

Post #8634134

Sharon, I have two blueberry plants $18.00. I have no berries this year. No bees I guess.
Last year they had a bout 8 berries. I think I will just buy fruits it seems easier than this waiting for it to happen crap.

Waiting for the bird groomer to come.

I put the Chevie truck up on eBay Classified. On the local listing and since it is a Classic I kept the price at $2750 , but I will take less if someone is a serious buyer. Several people looked at it but so far no one has come up with the $2500 I am asking. Maybe I will put it up on the MarketPlace if they have a place for trucks.

I have three Kalanchoe Blossfeldiana, yellow and orange or red, can not remember. How do you propagate them. I will look it up on DG and see what they say. They seem to be really happy houseplants and grow like weeds. I got these for Mothers Day from one of the NJ grandkids and forgot about them, transplanted them and wow, they grew like crazy. One is blooming again. So, like I told you, I will sell anything that is not nailed down, do what can I say?

My leg is almost back to normal. No more cane and I took a long walk this morning
and got tired but it did not hurt. I must watch when I am sitting at the puter. I always put my feet back under me and that is what causes my problem.
Here is a picture of my baby blue.

Have a good day. Will talk later. JB

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 16, 2011
9:53 AM

Post #8634139

Jen, I think we can give them to each other but I am not sure. I do know we can not sell them. If you want to get technical, I would think we should not even propagate them period. Really pisses me off because I bought those Easter Cactus and they are not patented in the USA but they are still patented. I think I will ask the Dept. of AG for their thoughts.

Who polices that. I would think if you trade or share who would know? My luck they would pick me up and deport me.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 16, 2011
9:58 AM

Post #8634148

That does it. THEY ARE ALL PATENTED. Mine have no name other than Kalanchoe Blosssfeldiana and instructions to grow...GROWN IN CANADA.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
10:01 AM

Post #8634156

JB did you try Craig's list? Don't send any money to anyone in Nigeria. LOL

You drive it out here and I will give you the full price $2750 for it. You can hitchhike back.

What year is the truck? Is it as old as you? If so it must still be running good. Isn't that the one you had painted not long ago? LOL, I know it isn't, that was the jeep.

Did I get your BP up yet?

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
10:03 AM

Post #8634160

What about your Aimees?

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 16, 2011
1:27 PM

Post #8634437

Thanks Dave.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 16, 2011
1:54 PM

Post #8634480

Well I was in the landscape at 7am and caved at noon. Just to hot. But I did get a lot done. I am going to plant later this evening.

Jnette, those millions of votes all came from Chicago's cemeteries. Actually, I voted for him because I thought McCain was to old and Palin drives me crazy. But I am disappointed. You see, I am a Republican but the Republicans in congress and state governments are not even close to being a Republican. They are all lying. But we are not suppose to discuss politics. That will have to wait until we all have tea together.

Celene, were you up early or late. I know nothing about tropical spiderwort. I will have to look it up. My spider wort is beautiful and when it is through blooming, I cut it back and it comes up again and bloom heavily again.

I was cleaning the Louisiana Iris bed today before I got to hot. Had 6 stems that have very large seed pods. I am going to dig them and separate probably later in the month. Anyone want a seed pod when they are ripe. I think there are 6 and I will keep one pod.. .

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
1:58 PM

Post #8634489

Linda, got your seeds. Thanks so much. Do the Lantanas need to be soaked? They seem to be big seeds with a shell aren't they? Seems like I soaked them before and they didn't come up. Maybe that is why?

Anyway, thank you for both those and the Queens Tears. Oh, Do those need light also? Jeanette
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
2:10 PM

Post #8634504

Sharon I would like a seed pod. Might be fun to try it. What time of the year would I plant them?

Oh, BTW, my whole family is Reps but got it form my parents. But you are right, Bob and I have been saying for the last several years that the current ones are not true. Too bad it was a GOP at one time.

I know, I know, no politics. Just had to get that in.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 16, 2011
2:34 PM

Post #8634533

I had a wonderful surprise today. My bird groomer brought me two 15 year old Christmas Cactus. One is pink, and the other is orange with a pink center. No names of course. She also brought me an orchid which I am hoping I do not kill. She is downsizing and she knew I was selling and collecting the CC. What nice friends I have. The truck is a Classic, is is a 1989 S10 Tahoe Chevie pick up with extended cab. Really nice and clean too. About 119,000 miles on it. My husband bought it new for me in April of 1989. The oil has been changed every 4000 miles and it was detailed every year. Sometimes twice a year depending on the weather.

I do not like Craigs list at all and I really do not expect to get anything from it, but I thought since it is free Classified I will give it a try. If I decide to list it on the auction I have to pay. LOL I am tired of paying.

I am taking cuttings of the CC now and when my leg gets better I am going to move some of that yellow Iris. I will let you all know.

I had cut back my bougainvillea last year down to almost nothing. Took it outside behind the barn early Spring and forgot about it. It is blooming and beautiful. If I would have tried to do that it would be dead.

I thought I would see how much information is available on cubits and ask a few of the forum about Patent Plant information. No answers yet. I even ask Dave. They do not seem to have the same type people there as we do here. There are definite clicks, but they are very polite and nice to you, but I have my doubts if I will be doing much chatting there. Some of the girls are very nice and could not be more helpful, but they do not have the type gardeners we have here and if they do, I am unable to find them. Maybe I am just not looking in the right place. Not too many people propagate tropicals, and if they do they are in the South and they are not house plants. I still think The Plant Scout and Market Place are the best sources to sell your plants.

I would guess if a plant is patented in Canada and they ship here to sell, then it would be illegal to propagate that plant for sale here in the USA. I think that sucks. Especially when they (the people selling them here in the USA) do not tell you they are PP. I am going to try and find an answer because if they are sold without a PP, and none of their pots are marked PP, they are marked Not for comsumption, Propagation Prohibited. What in blazes do the think I want to do, grow them to eat? But when I called Canada they did say they were Patented. Hmmmmmmm

I'm tired and think I had better ice the leg. Hope you are all good and having fun with the good weather. Is Katie o.k. ?

See you all tomorrow. Hugs. JB
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 16, 2011
3:02 PM

Post #8634566

Ok as I see it patents are good everywhere. I kind of look at it as if i had a patent. how would I like to be treated? In the very distant past i did do some patented cuttings but to my defense i did not know they were patented untill I happened to see anotherone with the patent # and info on it.
As far as enforcement goes I believe its upto the patent holder to police it and i would think the state agencies would watch for it also. but with so many plants not patented you should be able to find plants to grow. I know the poinsettia people hire school teachers to travel around and do spot checks at greenhouses. They actually have it figuired out if a stock plant is 6" tall and has x number of shoots it will produce a specific # of cuttings. you can buy a liscense to propagate the plants but i don't know where to go to even begin to apply for one.

Nice truck JB. will you deliver it. I can pay a dollar down and a dollar a month till its paid off or i die which ever comes first... you should not have any trouble selling it. are there any car lots near you. here we have lots where you can drive you car to them they will make you an offer and you can even comeback and take the offer at a later date. I am sure there are conditions to the sleep on it clause. just a thought. How about Auto trader or the local high school. could you put an ad in the school newspaper? laundry mats, local resturaunts especiall small mom and pop breakfast places.

JB heads up rain coming your way and its nasty

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 16, 2011
5:34 PM

Post #8634885

Ibartoo:

>> Corey, I too love your sense of humor. It seems to match mine.

Oh, no! I'm sorry to hear that. I wish I could say "they have medication for that now", but I don't think they do. It's incurable, and contagious after repeated exposure.

Maybe spraying with diluted hydrogen peroxide? I haven't tried that yet.

Corey


Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 16, 2011
6:31 PM

Post #8634993

Sharon, I wonder if I need to be a less timid pruner with my hardy spiderworts? Tropical spiderworts, think: Wandering Jew, Blue Gingers, etc.

JB, I grow tropicals in Ohio! No greenhouse (yet, bwahahaha), either.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 16, 2011
7:12 PM

Post #8635073

Here's a link to information regarding plant patents:

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/plant/

I did used to practice law, you know. :P

A.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
7:59 PM

Post #8635191

JB and Dave probably know this stuff. I find it real interesting even tho I have no intentions of reproducing any plant to sell. But I asked so I can pick out the parts I am interested in. Thanks.

Actually I will put it in my plant file for future use since you/I never know what the future will be. Maybe I will do it in the future like JB does. For fun, and to support my habit. LOL,

Hopefully if I do that, then I will need it.

Thanks.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 16, 2011
10:18 PM

Post #8635494

Well Jnette, I have no idea about the seeds. I have e-mailed Dee at Snowpeak Irises. She is my iris expert. I think the pod needs to dry on the stem. I am digging the other without pods in the next couple of weeks. I will send the bulbs and your Canna. Seeds will follow. Maybe by the end of th week you will be warm enough for your Canna.

JB , Linda and Dave also wanted LA Black Gamecock. Did I miss anyone.

I also dug up 3 Glads. They came up but no blooms. I think it did not get cold enough. They were expensive but I cannot guarantee if they will bloom. Bloomed last two years but not this year. I had seven but when I pulled them today only 3 had bulbs attached. Free to whomever wants them.

The Black Bamboo is still looking puny. It is still on hold until it looks better.

When I was in Washington Dee from Snowpeak and I toured some iris farms in Oregon. She gave me some molly allium bulbs. Look a lot like the onions I sent Dawn with the blue flowers. The blooms are yellow. They are in the holding garden.

My worker is not coming this weekend. He called and wanted to borrow $750. I have already given him more than that plus paying him for his work. I thought it was time to stop the bleeding.. Now we will see if he shows up again. I am usually smarter than that but he was in deep trouble because of his wife's illness, which I verified, and I had money to give but I am a Winter, not a Rockefeller.

Katie went to California to see the guru. Maybe she joined the movement and is on her way to the next stop.

Jnette, tomorrow I will take a photo of my tomatoes. I need to determine how to set the date on my camera. Maybe I will Google that before I go to bed. I have been awake since 4:30am. Vern was trying to find something to cover the female dog because he thought she was cold and woke me up. I could not go back to sleep so I finally got up and took my shower at 6am. What a waste of time. And I also curled my hair. Another waste of time.

I am going to work in the garden tomorrow early so I must hit my bed.

Lee, Linda and Evelyn, what am I suppose to be sending you? Lee did any of your grass come up. I am sending a whole menagerie of things to Dave and JB. They will sell anything.

Evelyn, my pink and white Verbena is growing and looking great. How is yours? Is it still alive.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 16, 2011
10:25 PM

Post #8635501

Dave I just got 4 1 gallon Buddleia plants from her, two varieties that I wanted. They would not have made it on more day in the mail if I did not get them today, they were pretty hammered. I soaked them in the sink for 2 hours with Kelp and they perked up pretty well, so I potted them up and hope they are in good spots for acclimation.

Why does she threaten to burn them or compost them?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 16, 2011
10:38 PM

Post #8635510

Dave, how is your grandfather doing? Is he in the hospital? He will heal at home much better if he has someone to care for him and isn't so bad that he needs a hospital. I have been in one so many times and can tell you for sure I know what I am telling you.

If at all possible, he needs to be home. Sure hope he is ok. People that old do not do well no matter where. What was he in the wheel chair for? Must be hell to get old. So sorry.

JB is going to lead us all in aerobic exercises. Starting next Monday. Is everyone up for it? Not her time. Ours. Not with Mornin;' Joe either.

Come on JB. I want to see it on You tube.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 17, 2011
8:27 AM

Post #8636205

Good grief, did I let a f*** with that last post last night? I was the last one on here and it is afternoon already JB' time.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 17, 2011
11:08 AM

Post #8636479

Howdy:
My grandpa is doing fine he is home. he has his wife who is 20 years younger than he is and they have home health coming in. he has a full leg brace so he does not move the leg. I know he is like me so if he did not have it it would never heal.

the threat of composting is a real one. i have a ton of plants I have threatened to compost over on her cube as well. I have been know to dump a whole crop just to make room for the next crop coming on. once the plants get so big its a fight to keep them alive let alone looking good. I am sure she is tired of fighting them.

here is my ad http://cubits.org/flowersnursery/thread/view/59017/

Most of my stuff I will have to move across town but would rather sell them at a huge discount than have to move them again. please let me know what you think of my ad

we are a fickle bunch and plants just make more babies. I am sure thats the thought. sell them and the ones that are looking a bit haggered will be transplanted or dumped. I just did a huge bunch of pots that were suposed to be pampas grass but they failed to come back so they got dumped. I don't want to wait 6 month's for them to become puney looking distressed plants so I dumped them.
There are a lot of reasons to dump a crop. its personal and I have a hard time doing it sometimes.
well its lunch time and then nap 30.
Have a great day
Dave
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 17, 2011
12:34 PM

Post #8636657

HI Everyone,

I'm back after almost a week with Amma. It was really nice except I caught a cold. Was up all night for about three nights. Also had a tooth bothering me. I saw my dentist yesterday and had it pulled. It's the first permanent tooth I have lost. The dentist was new to me but very nice (and cute as can be). He complimented me on how well I've taken care of my teeth and told me to come see him about twice a year. Maybe once year will do.

Amma was wonderful, as always. I've know her since her second visit to the US which was twenty-four years ago. It's gone from a couple of hundred people to thousands. In India, they come by the millions to see her. She asked (through one of her translators) where I was living now because she hasn't seen me as often as she used to. I was quite surprised, considering the millions of "children" she has. I told her I'm living in Mexico so I don't see her as often as I used to but I assured her that I'm always with her. She gave me an apple. A special treat. She calls me her darling daughter. I made two peacocks out of watermelons for her.

I have to buy dog food and a few other things before heading home. I'll go through where I did last time. I'll probably get pulled over and checked but I'm not taking anything illegal. I do have lots of stuffed animals which are for the kids at Christmas and some Goodwill finds.

I'll be gald to get home and see my dogs and plants and Tony. It will probably be quite hot by now.

I got a kit to do some tissue culture of plants. A new hobby is just what i need!! I need to sort through my huge fabric stash and give a lot to Tony's wife and daughter and other family members.

Mostly, though, I need to rest and shake this cold. The tooth that was pulled was infected pretty badly so I'm hoping that I'll perk up now that it's gone.

I'm tired so will talk to you all later. I've missed you.

hugs, katie
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 17, 2011
12:41 PM

Post #8636669

[quote="WormsLovSharon"] Evelyn, what am I suppose to be sending you? [/quote]

...Just the Black Bamboo and 'Diana' hibiscus.

Evelyn, my pink and white Verbena is growing and looking great. How is yours? Is it still alive.

...They are still alive but no blooms yet. I am sure they will grow a bit and then bloom all summer. Thanks again!
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 17, 2011
2:44 PM

Post #8636876

Katie:
welcome back I was starting to get concerned about you. your cold may be compounded by the infected tooth. its good you got it out. did the dentisit give you any antibiotics??? call him if he did not. its a cheap fix and would be a shame for you to suffer when acheap round of antibiotics would knock it out quickly.
Let me know how the tissue culture goes i have toyed with the thought of doing it myself but I have too many hobbies as it is. maybe once I get beyond growing outside.
Have a safe trip back
Dave
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

June 17, 2011
5:02 PM

Post #8637162

Hello to everyone. I have been working on increasing my Bromeliad inventory with very little luck.
Don't have time or patience to read all I have missed.
I did see the pic of baby parrots. I am impressed with JBerger who raised these babies. I once had an amazon parrot that could speak about twenty words. He got obnoxious when I would get on the phone and would Scream MAMAMA. He did die but I do miss him at times. But most of all I miss my palamino horse.

Wish I could send you all tomatoes. All the neighbors have been trading vegetables.

Happy gardening to you all
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 17, 2011
5:14 PM

Post #8637183

Guess I'm first again! Nobody has anything to say Dave.

I've been gone all day so guess I didn't miss much. Glad to hear from you again Katie, and welcome Peg. Dave, you need to go back and get Peg.

Glad Grandpa is doing good and he will heal better at home.

The rain seems to have let up for a while anyway. My sister sent me a bunch of listings to look at so I found some I would like to see, but don't know if she is gone for the weekend or not.

The strangest thing we found out when we were trying to buy this house here. The realtors do not work on the weekends here. Some do on Saturdays, but no Sundays. In Seattle the weekends were their busiest times. Some of them would bring in 4 or 5 earnest money agreements written over the weekend. Boy, not here. Maybe people don't want to be bothered on the weekends.

Well, I haven't even watered the tomatoes for 3 days. Guess I will wait until tomorrow. Bob got me some bungee cords to tie them up with. ttyl,

edited to add: We crossposted

Hi Peg. Wasn't sure we would get you with us that soon. Maybe you know about Linda's Queen's Tears. She sent me seeds and I was just going to tell her that I googled them and this is what they said about propagation. (if it is still in my copy)

Propagation: Billbergia nutans are propagated by the removal of offsets after flowering.

So, Linda, you said these were spreading throughout your flower bed? They must be seeding down then, right? It is a Bromiliad. I thought they attached to trees.

This message was edited Jun 17, 2011 5:23 PM

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 17, 2011
7:46 PM

Post #8637496


Dave,

>> I have been know to dump a whole crop just to make room for the next crop

It makes sense that a good propagator can fill up any given amount of space to the rafters.

A neighbor has a really beatiful garden in a tiny space. She is ruthless about discarding anything that doesn't thrive fast in its first spot. She may move it once, but then OUT.

I call her "Atilla the Gardener".

Corey

hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 17, 2011
7:48 PM

Post #8637498

I must have missed Katie talking about Amma before. Why did she have so many people she considered her kids?

Dave I did not know you can't ship to all of us Western folk. I get the tossing if the plants are not looking great. Seems like more work than money though.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 17, 2011
7:48 PM

Post #8637502

I like that.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 17, 2011
8:51 PM

Post #8637638

I'm a cold-hearted gardener, too. I am not going to fiddle around with a plant that doesn't want to live here, or is like one of those little overbred dogs whose vigor has been bred out of them.

Even the tropicals, I let them go dormant and bring them in. If they achieve terminal dormancy...they're pretty fine compost. There are precious few plants I'll spend exorbitant effort to grow. Some of the tropicals and house plants don't go dormant, but they need to be relatively forgiving of my drafty old house and mediocre lighting, or they end up fertilizing next year's tomatoes.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 17, 2011
9:14 PM

Post #8637678

Well I had a big day planned but did not gardening. Took grandson, Jacob, to lunch for his birthday along with Hannah the oldest sister and his mother, my daughter, Tracy. He did not feel well and I was about to throw him to the lions.

We went to Firefly, a new tapas place, He is 8 today so I guess it was not his kind of food. I had lamb, that was to die for along with beef tenderloin sliders, chicken on a stick and bacon wrapped dates with blue cheese. That was my order but we all shared. They ordered stuffed mushrooms, a shrimp dish, macaroni an cheese and french fries for the birthday boy. Something else but I was not impressed enough to remember.

Then I came home and it was 2:30 and hot. My problem is if I do not get started first thing, I never get started.

I have a funeral to attend tomorrow at 10am. So hopefully after that I can hit the garden Now I am behind. The crazy jet stream has slipped below Nevada. So we are cooling down to low 90s and Northern Nevada is getting rain so Evelyn is probably getting rain also. Ninety degrees is actually doable in the shade.

They were replacing bulbs in the outdoor lights yesterday and today. They missed two up in the trees shining down that was why they were her today. I decided to go to Lowes and see how much the energy efficient bulbs were. I was shocked. Saved 80% energy but they were $27 a piece. I have 30+ outdoor lights. Yes Jnette, it looks like a hotel. I guess I will replace them as they burn out. This time there was 17 burned out. Very unusual amount. I wonder if you get a tax credit for energy efficient bulbs? But then you need income to need write offs.

I am headed off to bed. I neerd my beauty rest.

Who do you think this is?

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 17, 2011
11:16 PM

Post #8637765

You cannot take pictures of me long distance. Too many mountains. So, if you try, it must be JB. Not me.

I hope to get out and fertilize and water the tomatoes in the a.m. and then I have an appointment with my sister the realtor to go look at a house. I think it is going to be just right for us,but Bob is spooked about the financing. I asked him why he wasn't worried when I put my house in Seattle on the chopping block and bought this house and he said he thought I was demented. So, now he is worried about me losing this house and being out on the street. He says I am crazed.

Gotta go to bed so I can do all this stuff tomorrow. I am not fit to walk the streets, or highways. My arthritis will not allow it. I wonder if I can work in the soup kitchens. If I work there I might get to eat for free? Is that how it works?

Bob called my hair dresser to put my hair in the drawer. No, to get both of us haircuts and told the woman answering the phone he wanted two haircut appointments. She wanted to make them 2 weeks apart. He said no, one after the other. She didn't get it. He said he wanted 2 hairs cut. That she got so she made 2 appointments for today and we got our hairs cut.

Gotta go to bed. nite.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 18, 2011
6:37 AM

Post #8638077

Well I am up early for the funeral. It is the mother of a very dear friend.

Jnette, I decided if and when I become homeless, I am going to commit a felony. In prison I will get food, shelter, free medical and eye glasses. Probably even have a garden for me to work in. I just need to decide which state has a prison where I would want to live.

Customers like Bob used to drive my assistant crazy. But after 15+ years she spotted them before they opened their mouth. Good luck on the house hunting.

Lucky for Vern, he never put up a fuss about any real estate or stock I bought. After making money the first time he just let me go. He said he was waiting for me to lose money and I never did. But I am not a genius. I was just in the market at the right time and got out at the right time. Just very lucky.

I will check in later this afternoon after gardening. The weather this morning is postcard weather. Have a great day. Sharon.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 18, 2011
7:56 AM

Post #8638198

What happens to the posts that disappear? Don't you think cyberspace has to fill up at some point? My point is I answered everyone's questions and even added a few comments yesterday and my post isn't here at all.

Anyway, Sharon, I remember asking about the black bamboo, but I don't know of anything else. However if you still have an iris pod, I would love one of those.

Jnette, all of the bromeliads I have had have grown in soil. I have seen airplants that thrive on wood or in trees, they even sell them in sea shells here in the beachwear shops. I know that some of the achmea bromeliads put out suckers and then the original plant will die back after it blooms. These may put out suckers, but the originals don't die.
My sister sent me some that are the same plant, just a little different cultivar and they do not spread the way these do. I have never found a name for the ones she sent me. I know I have never seen seeds on a bromeliad before, so this is a new venture for me. You know I love a good experiment.As for the seeds, I would simply surface sow them and see what happens. I have more if they don't come up for you.

Katie, welcome back.
Peg, welcome. You will like it here.

Rick, I don't want a cure for the humor issue. It is probably the only real strand keeping my sanity in tact.

Jb is doing the happy dance because her orchid cacti are growing. I am repotting a few this week, so I may have some more cuttings if anyone is interested.

Evelyn and Lee, did you ever get warm and dry?

Sharon, the tapas sound good, but I have found that at 8, the less trendy seems to work better. I will have my 8 year old great neice( I may be 90 before I get to be a grandma) come to stay with me for 3 weeks at the end of the month. I am looking forward to it but not sure where the energy will come from to keep up. She has made big plans. LOL

Dave, I am glad grampa is doing better. Thanks for the emails and for helping with the buyers.

Gotta get outside while the temperatures are still bearable.
Talk to ya later,
Linda
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 18, 2011
9:08 AM

Post #8638317

Sharon, I had forgotten about this until Linda mentioned it. But why in the world would you take an 8 yr old to a place like that for HIS birthday? Amazing how soon we forget what it is like to be that age. I am surprised he did not throw a fit right in front of everybody. You must have fed him drugs before going.

Linda that happens a lot and I just assume I forgot to hit send. Don't know.

Actually Sharon with Bob and the haircut appointments, if it had been the regular people answering the phone, they would have known what Bob wanted. But, it is a small shop and could have been that the operators were busy and someone else answered the phone for them.

Or were you talking about Bob and the real estate? I can understand his worry about that since he does not trust a Realtor even if it is my sister. And, I hate to say this, but I agree, but am aware of how and why the Realtors do what they do. And, am always watching even if it is my sister. I worked for the master of crooks in a real estate office when I was younger.

Linda it is going to be fun trying the seeds. Will let you know what happens with them.

Well, gotta get out there and take care of the tomatoes before leaving to meet my sister. ttyl,



JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 19, 2011
6:43 AM

Post #8639825

Happy Fathers Day to all. Have been trying to catch up after a week of not walking too well. Still have some discomfort but I can live with that for now.

Things are very quiet here. Almost sold out of everything and am cutting my cactus and trying to keep things watered and fed.

Can not believe I sold the truck. I feel like I lost an old friend. Now the fun is trying to get the tags (special Marine Corp Tags, transferred from the truck to the Jeep) Some technical thing like the Type and you would think I am asking for a miracle. I may need one to do this.

Barney got sick about 2 a.m. and I have been up since so I am going to give the birds water and sneak a nap. I have already fed the cats, checked the GH, walked Barney and had breakfast and it is only 9:30.

Does anyone use ClipNShip from the Post Office? I had a crazy thing happen yesterday with that. I did a shipping label for a package going to TX and when I was in bed I got an email stating the label was cancelled and I was to destroy it and the money will be refunded. She paid thru paypal and so I went on Paypal and it said print a label. So I printed another and it went through. I am wondering if they knew on ClipNShip that there was a label waiting on PayPal. That is scary if they did. LOL They gave me no reason for canceling it or anything. Mystery for sure.

Katie, I am so glad to see you are o.k. Sounds like you had a great time.

I am doing the happy dance because the Christmas Orchid cuttings Laurie sent me are growing like little weeds. I am so happy.

Someone sent me some Vicar something, and that is growing very well also. Evelyn, was that you or Sharon? I am sorry I can not remember the name of the plant or who sent it. Senior Moments for sure.

I did not see any postings from any of you last night. Were you all sick or am I just out of touch.

Jen, how did you make out with the house you looked at?

Dave, did you send me a friend request for something yesterday? I canceled it because I have been getting some weird requests and since I am not active in the program it was, I thought it was an error. Some crazy is going on with the internet just now.
I am not sure if it is my machine or the cyber space.

Talk later. Have a great day. This is going to be a long one since I am so tired. JB

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 19, 2011
6:57 AM

Post #8639852

Click & Ship, unrelated to paypal. Just a weird coincidence, probably.

Know what I hate? Seed and plant catalogs that do not show leaves or flowers to scale with anything resembling reality. I'm okay with small flowers or leaves, I just want to know what they look like.

I took some oddball plectranthus cuttings yesterday, when I was grooming the plants. These should be no particular challenge to root, lol.
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 19, 2011
8:16 AM

Post #8640009

Just wanted to drop in and say hello. Once again, I haven't had the time to keep up reading this very busy thread. I had somethings unexpected happen last week that is going to really, really cut into my computer time.

After my son and his wife having two different baby sitters take advantage of them, last Monday I offered to become the grand childrens new baby sitter. They will be coming three and sometimes four days a week. They were here three days last week and I am still not caught up on house work types of things. Outside gardening time is gonna take a big hit too because it will be very frustrating to try and do the things I want to do while they are with me. I tried potting a few things one evening last week and kept getting interrupted. I will be doing my gardening in the mornings versus any afternoon or evenings for a while.

The good thing about it is that I am actually going to get paid what they were paying the other sitters, and the extra money will come in handy for both groceries and more planting materials. hahaha

So, I just wanted to say hello to all even though I don't have time to read what everyone has going on, I will try to drop by again when I have time to read and hear about all the exciting plant works that everyone is involved in.

I sold my first houseplant yesterday that my hubby took with him to our local Farmer's Market where he has been selling Day Lilies and Iris for a while now. I have others potted and hope to continue to bring in some money this way too.

I just snapped a picture of some of my houseplants who are happily spending their summer on our screened porch. Thought I would share a few with you.

Take care and I hope that everyone will have an enjoyable and productive week coming up.

Ruby

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 19, 2011
8:17 AM

Post #8640012

These are a few that will go to the Farmer's Market the next trip.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 19, 2011
8:18 AM

Post #8640015

A Coleus.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 19, 2011
8:18 AM

Post #8640018

Another Coleus.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 19, 2011
8:19 AM

Post #8640020

One patch of Day Lilies.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 19, 2011
8:20 AM

Post #8640023

Another small patch of Day Lilies and our greenhouse/potting shed.

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ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 19, 2011
9:19 AM

Post #8640141

Morning everyone.
It is a beautiful Sunday and Father's day here.
Ruby, I know the things you enjoy doing will be pushed aside a little bit, but to be able to play with little ones would be awesome. Nobody will love them like "grandma" and their parents won't have to worry about them not being cared for as they should. I am missing the days when mine was little and all of my nieces and nephews live too far away for me to get to spend much time with them.
I wish you well at the farmers market. I once went to the flea market with plants ( 25 years ago) and was amazed at what i sold. I knew even then that i would eventually have a nursery.

JB, what is a christmas orchid cactus? I know orchid cactus and Christmas cactus, but I have never heard of Christmas orchid cactus.
I hope Barney feels better. It is awful when our babies are sick and they can't talk to us.

Celene, I agree with you. Pictures in catalogs should be scale! It is frustrating to order something only to discover that it isn't as big or small as you thought.
I deal with that a lot in the jewelry supply catalogs too. That can really mess up a design.

Jnette, you may be right, I may not have hit send, but it seems to happen a lot lately. I am starting my bilbergia seeds today. i will let you know how they do. I also started my experiment on the different color bottles. I will post results of that one too.

Sharon and Dawn, It is supposed to be 91 here today with a tremendous heat index. I hope you two are cool and comfortable.

Does anyone use google chrome with paypal's shipping thingy? Every time i try to print a lable in paypal, it ends up with an error and I have to wait two weeks for a refund. I finally just started taking everything to the post office, but it would be so much easier to ship from here.

Well, Gotta go, hope everyone has a wonderful day.
Linda

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 19, 2011
10:15 AM

Post #8640233

No wonder you never heard of a Christmas orchid cactus. THERE AINT NO SUCH ANIMAL. I am tired and typed the wrong thing. Sorry Linda. Your the one who gave them to me and I am so excited I can not even get the name straight. I apologize, the word Christmas needs to be deleted from that post. JB
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 19, 2011
10:53 AM

Post #8640282

Howdy:
a big warning to everyone. I got some kind of address book virus that is asking people to down load a program. do not open it just deleat it. sorry for the problems with this. I am usually better at defending these things I do not know where it came from
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 19, 2011
12:25 PM

Post #8640394

Well, you all are way ahead of me today. I went with my sister yesterday, met her at 1 o'clock, thought we were looking at "A" house and looked a 7. And that was after driving an hour and a half to get to the first one. She had them all mapped out in order so that was good.

The house I wanted to see in the first place was the best of the day. Most for the money and best house. The most gorgeous yard I have ever seen. I am sure that the people who owned it were in the nursery business when they bought the place new because the plants were all mature and just wonderful. The yard was 3/4 of an acre and every inch perfect.

At least I am smart enough to know I could never keep up with it. I would have to have a professional to prune at least once a year. Every shrub and evergreen would need it's own style of pruning. Just gorgeous. Oh well- - -

Ruby, Linda is right, the gardening can take a backseat to the babysitting. The little ones are only that size for a short time. They grow up so fast. But you will find time to do the other too. You will just have to adjust your time.

You are so right JB, I was just plain too tired to do anything last night when we got home. Bob had a big pot of spaghetti ready for dinner and good garlic bread and salad.

Linda forgetting to hit send I think is just being in too big a hurry. Nothing else.

Glad you sold the truck JB, now I won't have to come get it.

Ok, you all, here is a question for you. Listen up!! JB!! WAKE UP!!

Never mind, go back to sleep, I decided not to ask it.

Celene, I have said that often, why don't people post pictures of the whole plant? A mature plant.

Ok, Lee, you often say we talk so much you can't get a word in. Here is your turn.





Did I hear from you? Noooooooo. Dawn, Katie, Evelyn, where are you all?

It is another cold day out there but maybe I will try to get the rest of my container plants in the wet cold soil mix anyway. At least then I can say I tried. ttyl

hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 19, 2011
2:01 PM

Post #8640625

Ruby those DL do me in. Love the selection for market.
Hot and inside today for Father's Day. Inside nice/outside bad.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 19, 2011
2:41 PM

Post #8640719

>> I am not going to fiddle around with a plant that doesn't want to live here,

Good philosophy! I'll try that on my plants that are being lazy and difficult.

"HEY YOU!! If you don't want to THRIVE here, you don't have to LIVE here!"

I'll see if threats work. But they probably know how wussy I am.

Actually, if it hadn't rained this weekend, and I wasn't lazy, I was planning to turn under some Bok Choy and other Asian greens that stalled in the cold spring weather (or maybe it was the heavy clay they disliked) and replace them with seedlings from 6-packs started indoors.

Bok Choy, green stem & white stem
Italian Heirloom "Broccolo Spigariello" = Brassica oleracea var. 'Spigariello'
Gai Lan "Chinese Kale / Broccoli"

Corey
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 19, 2011
2:50 PM

Post #8640739

[quote="ibartoo"]What happens to the posts that disappear? Don't you think cyberspace has to fill up at some point? My point is I answered everyone's questions and even added a few comments yesterday and my post isn't here at all.

I have wondered that myself, as I have written long letters (d-mails) to people as well as long posts and then go to send them and then they are gone...POOF! Just like that. It gets discouraging as at this time I do not have a lot of spare time on my hands.


Evelyn and Lee, did you ever get warm and dry?

Yes, Linda, it is warm and dry and there are now weeds everywhere. The only four places that are "virtually" weed-free are the new "Hot Bed", the new "Cottage Garden Bed", the (8) square foot gardens and the three beds around the house. I have been working like a mad-woman trying to get everything tidy, but working on one section at a time so if you look at the other parts, I will want to hide. I have been starting out earier in the morning as it gets a bit uncomfortable mid-day, then going out later. I worked straight through yesterday and did not sleep well, so my schedule has been interrupted. I got a bit sunburnt as well on the back of my neck while I was working, as I forget to put on sunscreen. It is not severe, as I tan easily and it will be better by tomorrow.

Last year, I took a shortcut and just trimmed the weeds down and then covered with mulch in the Dark Side Garden. (It looked great, then...) It is a meadow now...YIKES! My husband would have weed-whacked it down, but he saw the dark leaves and knew he shouldn't. So that will be another challenge for me. So many weeds (and seeds and plants) and only so many hours in the day. Still I have only watered today as I feel so tired. I wish I had JB's energy as she is in her 80's and I am not yet quite 70. Maybe she does not have garden beds but seasonal things like orchards, daffodils and her greenhouse. I am not sure. Still she does quite a bit. At least my husband likes to cook and will help with the housework.
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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 19, 2011
3:43 PM

Post #8640819

Evelyn, have you ever tried putting newspapers over them before they come up, or cut them and then put several layers, I put 12 over them and then cover it with compost or bark etc? My daughter and I did that to my perennial bed several years ago and now this year I see some of the things growing, probably shallow rooted things.

If I get out there now and get them out I might try it again 'cause I remember when the weeds were up to my butt out there every year. I had a big tray what they sell to mix cement in, and filled it with water and would lay the newspapers in there to soak good and then lay them between the plants. Then, before they dry out, cover them with a mulch of something. I like the compost that you get in the 2 cuft bags. It looks nice.

But it does last good if you put several layers. Some people don't put near what I did but I was obsessive I guess. Desperate??

Corey, aren't those cool weather plants? Have you guys had more rain than usual? Must have 'cause I think we get ours from you. Whatever your weather is today, we will have it tomorrow.

NF2932

NF2932
Winnetka, CA

June 19, 2011
4:57 PM

Post #8640953

Hi Dave - JB...

Nancy here... I found your propogation thread Dave and read through some of the earlier threads... you were right there was a ton of good info there... filed away for the future! Hello to everyone else... I hope you don't mind me popping my head in and saying 'hi' to everyone. I live out here in southern California and was looking for some creeping phlox which lead me to Dave... unfortunately I couldn't purchase from him as I'm a west coast gardener but he was very helpful and invited me to stop in and say hello...I already knew JB as I had purchased a jasmine from her and made the connection that I had seen both names quite some time ago on this thread...small world as they say...

When I first joined DG I met Merrymath while searching for asiatic lillies ... she had referred me to this thread for an answer to a propogation question. I'd forgotten about the thread, but am glad I found it again - hi JB! The jasmine is doing well and I'm very happy with it...it's starting to put on some growth now that it's settled in and summer is here... and Dave, I did find some creeping phlox and got it planted yesterday!!!

Ruby... I used to read a series of mysteries that took place in Crozet, Virginia... can't recall the name of the series now, but they involved a postmistress and her dog and two cats... loved the stories! I am headed your way this July as my husband and I make our first visit to your state... I'm really looking forward to it.

Evelyn... didn't I send you a d-mail once about a trade...? Think you used to work at my local nursery some time ago? Wow! Seems I've talked to several of you along the way.

Since you all seem so knowledgeable... ok if I ask a question? I have a beautiful Meyer lemon tree that has begun to yellow at the leaf edges. I sprayed her with some liquid kelp and that seemed to help a bit. The tree is beyond prolific... and other than the yellowing of the leaves seems very healthy. Possibly an iron deficiency? Been doing some reading and that's the direction I'm leaning. Any thoughts?

And thanks for letting me stop in and visit everyone. Nancy
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 19, 2011
6:40 PM

Post #8641146

Hi Nancy, Welcome. I can't help with the lemon tree, but there is a tremendous amount of info spread throughout these threads.

Jb, you are too funny! you had me going, thinking there was a blooming cactus I didn't know about. LMAO.

Rick, by 10 am this morning, it was 97 in the shade on my porch. The trick is " I plant survivors!" if it don't survive, I don't ever plant another one. LOL

Evelyn, Glad you are warm and dry now. It was a weird season for you. I cannot function when it is cold, but when it is too hot to breathe I have a hard time too.

I put newspapers down over the weeds in my drive way once. The article I read said they needed to be 4 inches thick, but I didn';t use that many. I then put shredded hardwood mulch over the newspapers and it did real well for a while. Then we got some of those awful smelling orange fungi from the mulch, so we haven't used anything in it since.
I need to weed everything now. It is beginning to look overgrown. ( aw who am I kidding, it is overgrown!) Oh well, I will get to it eventually.

Talk to ya later,
Linda
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 19, 2011
7:14 PM

Post #8641231

Linda, I am sure they meant 4 layers, meaning 4 sheets of newspaper. The one that told me to use 12 layers I think was teasing me, but I did use 12 and that was about 5 or so years ago and it has lasted this long. Still not like it was but I have not gotten out to take care of it. Too much to do. But even using 12 has been worth it.

Do any of you guys sew, quilt, or anything like it? I still have that question.

WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 19, 2011
8:25 PM

Post #8641386

Well I have not gardened for two days. Came home after funeral and felt lousy. I had a headache and my shoulder was not happy. And the seats were hard and I do not sit that long as I did on hard seats. I got dressed to garden, took two Tylenol and laid down for a few minutes to try and beat the headache. Next thing I knew it was 5:30pm.

And then this morning, another headache so I sat all day on the couch with an ice bag on the back of my neck. Now the ice bag is on my shoulder. Vern is drinking Margaritas and watching baseball. I was going to make a rib eye steak tonight but it is still in the freezer.

The plants that I stored in the 3rd side of the garage last winter are doing marvelous.
See Corey, I push the envelop the other way. I think I live in Southern California. And with a whole lot of mulch, some of my plants think the same. But I have loads of muted shade.

I am going to garden tomorrow.

Jnette, Todd's landscaping was installed by two master gardeners. A few learning curves but you know your limitations.

Lee, did you lose power because the eagle dropped the fawn on the power lines?

We have some friends in Santa Fe, New Mexico that are starting to panic about the Arizona fires. The fire is heading their way.

I have a Meyer lemon and it loses leaves to yellowing when it gets to hot. I just think it is a way to eliminate stress. My African Sumac's do the same thing.

We had big time wind today so gardening would not have been fun.

Hopefully tomorrow I will return with news on my gardening work done. Later, Sharon

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 19, 2011
9:26 PM

Post #8641511

Evelyn - thank you for the rose campion!

They arrived perfectly - you are an expert shipper. I will let you know how they fare. :)




@ Ruby - good luck with the grandbabies!!

Have a good night.

A.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 19, 2011
9:49 PM

Post #8641546

Yes Sharon, I know my limitations. 20 or 30 years ago I could have done it. But not now, and I wouldn't even attempt it. If I could afford a part time gardner and then that place would have taken a professional arborist at least once a year and possibly twice a year for pruning.

One section, about maybe 30 feet square, was filled with plant to plant, i.e. no room in between for weeds to grow, perennials like daylilies, columbines, poppies, peonies, and so many things blooming. Those things would need dividing without making a mess. Just so much

Have any of you thought of growing hostas in pots? Sharon do you grow hostas down there? Just wondering.

evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 19, 2011
10:13 PM

Post #8641579

Nancy ~ Is that you?? Wow! I am SO happy to hear from you. I lost your address in my move to NorthernCA. And that was in 1987, due to my mother's health. Since I moved here she lasted until Sept 1999. I will d-mail you more details. Please let me know how you are as well.

Gosh I loved working at your nursery and living in Topanga...and knowing you! My life is good here too, really what I have I always dreamed of. More garden space than I know what to do with and try anyway! If you follow this thread you will hear me complain about weather or weeds, but really that is all I have left to complain about. I guess we all have something to challenge us from time to time.

It has been a long time since I had the benefit from a lemon tree. When I lived with my family in Inglewood we had a huge lemon tree. One year there was a frost warning, which was rare for that area, and my dad stayed up all night with a tent over it, light bulbs underneath it to keep it warm and I think he sprayed it with water as well. It's a wonder he did not get shocked. That tree seemed to produce lemons all year around. I forgot about that until you mentioned your lemon tree.

Sharon ~ I hope you have a better day tomorrow.

Jeanette ~ Yes, I tried that method in another area, by the new "Cottage Garden" border, just so it wouldn't be full of weeds next to it. I layed down newspaper, then cardboard, then newspaper, then chicken manure, then my own compost. I did this in the whole area and Steve didn't seem to notice the lack of weeds as there were very few. It does take some time and I like to do it in "stealth mode", without being seen. I have disposed of my cardboard stash, as I had to clean up the back porch, so I will have to start saving cardboard again. I was surprised at how little compost on top remained. I suppose it is a never-ending cycle. But the best part was the "not so many" weeds. It is harder to do that when you have plants growing in the area and trying to cover the rest. Especially when some of the plants are not up yet, like the callas.

Well it is late, so I will have to go now.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 19, 2011
10:34 PM

Post #8641588

Me too. 'nite.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 20, 2011
7:41 AM

Post #8642172

Jnette, hostas do very well in containers here. They just need water more often.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
8:21 AM

Post #8642247

As indoor plants Linda. And then taking them outside. Thinking that they need a time of really cold season. I have never heard that. And I'm not sure when they get that really cold time. Maybe they put them in the refrigerator. I should clarify that with her. We had them in Seattle and it is a zone 8. Never got real cold like it does here in zone 5.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 20, 2011
8:43 AM

Post #8642298

I use hostas and heuchera in containers all the time, to fill spots in the border where I'm waiting for a perennial to grow out, etc.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 20, 2011
8:50 AM

Post #8642326

Good Almost Afternoon Gang,

Just got back from having blood work done. Devoured half a bagel, eating water mellon and sipping on the coffee now trying to read all the posts from the 18th and 19th that just showed up. Where have they been? I am beginning to wonder if they have decided to read them first before they send them out. LOL. Are they in for a few laughs if they do.

I am so excited seeing new faces and especially old friends and customers who caught up with this outrageous forum. I do not recommend it to any sweet and loving people I know because you never know what kind of a mood one of us may be in and what will show up on the forum when you open it in the morning.

No I do not mean you Jen...I said one of us meaning all of us...so there. Just relax and read on. You ask if any of us sew. Let me tell you how good I am at sewing. I crochet...one single stitch is almost my limit...except for the scrubby and that I can do with much stress involved. I had a wonderful Singer Sewing Machine with lots of good stuff on it and I could not work it. It was too complicated. I still have it but bought a $75 Brother that does 3 stitches or maybe 5 and that is my limit. I knit and pearl, nothing else...I do very good crewel embroidery or I did when I had two eyes. I did pictures for all my kids and they treasure then. I also do Needlefelting, am pretty good at it too, but since I hurt my arm I am unable to do it for any length of time. Having given you this rundown of my many talents I want to know what the question is you are hesitating to ask.

Nancy, I am so glad you found us. We are such fun, but watch out for bad words once in awhile...we have a few people here who get very emotional at times. I am so glad the jasmine is doing well. Do not let it dry out. It loves water as you probably know.

Linda, why don't you drive up here and pick up a hibiscus I have that I am going to have to trash if I do not find a home for it. It is a salmon and unhappy as all get out because it is pot bound. It will die if I leave it outside. I just love them and no way can I take it in the GH this year. I have been taking cuttings just to keep it small but it just keeps growing and the pot it is in now is too small. I can not deal with these larger plants anymore. I am too weak with only one really good lifting arm.

Ruby, love your pictures. I am not much of an outside gardener anymore but I love looking at all the pictures.

I am going to downsize in the number of tropicals I propagate. I am going to do mostly jasmine, gardenias and the christmas (holiday) cactus. I find that mixing too many varieties in one greenhouse very difficult because they all take something different and I am too lazy to be mixing and matching crap. I need plants that are happy with what I do when I do it.

I have this gigantic cane like begonia that I keep cutting and it is easy to propagate. It does not have a name but I am thinking of parting with that also I am going to be out of space come Fall and not until then will I know what I am going to dispose of

There is something wrong with this thing now, you never know when you will lose a post.

There is nothing like the anxiety you get when you open this forum in the morning. Just a rush, like OH GOD A VIRUS??????Well maybe that is a little extreme, but you know what I mean.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 20, 2011
8:52 AM

Post #8642327

Ah Ha, it made it. I had to quit because I could no longer type. Just wanted to say bye for now and hope you all have a super Monday. JB
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
2:32 PM

Post #8643004

Celene, I said an indoor container. You live in Ohio. Closer to my zone. She lives in Texas. Too hot down there for hostas outside. Therefore, she plants them inside in pots. But calls them indoor hostas.

Did you feel that smack JB? Then it came back and got the other side!! Good shot Jen!! Good grief spare us all the impairments. You can't do this because of one eye. You can't do that because of a sore arm. Lord, what the hell can you do woman?

No, you do not deserve to hear the question. You probably don't have your hearing aid turned on to hear it anyway. And you don't need to apologize to Nancy for my foul mouth.

Good Heavens take this woman to the old folks home. Now she can't take her plants into the greenhouse because one arm is sore. For Heavens sake have that housecleaning woman you like so much take it to the greenhouse. Use your head.

Why don't you just throw all those crappy plants on the compost pile and they won't be in your way. You can then walk all around the greenhouse wthout bumping into anything.

Oh wow!! Now you can't type anymore. Ouch!!

NOW YOU CAN APOLOGIZE FOR ME!! And quit blaming your lousy typing on the computer.

This message was edited Jun 20, 2011 2:34 PM

NF2932

NF2932
Winnetka, CA

June 20, 2011
2:36 PM

Post #8643009

Evelyn...sorry to say that I am not the same Nancy that you are thinking of... although I do frequent Green Thumb nursery (same one right?) and have spent many, many hours there. I would be happy to ask if your acquaintance is still there if you'd like? Sounds like you had a nice friendship! Garden pals are the best... if you give me a last name I can inquire next time I go... it would be a nice thing to help you connect with an old friend. I'm familiar with the community that you live in now as my best friend lived in Trukee for many years...and I can well imagine how much you must love it! It's very pretty there and having lots of gardening space is such a blessing...

JB... bagels, watermelon & coffee... sounds like heaven! I love summer fruit! My nectarine tree is full of fruit and I plan to make a fruit salad tonight... yum! And you're right... this does sound like a fun group and I am finding out that the jasmine needs moisture - we are supposed to hit 100 degrees today so this morning before I left for work... I watered it and moved it into a shadier area underneath a clematis. I took a long walk last night and there is sooooo much jasmine blooming in my neighborhood ... it was heaven! I think I did more sniffing than my dog!! LOL!

Jnette-that home sounds really lovely... you're right about proper maintenance to keep it that way... wouldn't it be great to have a full time helper? I think all true gardeners wish for that extra set of helping hands in the garden... especially from someone who knows their way around the landscape. I was just speaking to a former co-worker who retired and moved to Bellingham Washington... he loves it there and is beginning his 'first ever' garden. Since he retired a year ago he's been concentrating on walking every day and has lost 50 lbs... now he's ready for his next challenge... I sent him a care package of seeds for next spring... I may have converted him with all my 'garden speak'... he was a bit intimidated, but I know once he gets started he will love it. Who wouldn't?

I think I'm going to add some greensand around the base of that lemon tree based on some advice I got about micronutrients... kind of an experiment at this point. My family loves the lemons and we cook with them all the time. It's lemonade season for us as temps are rising... I I just love the tree and want to keep it as healthy as I can.

Have a good day all!
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

June 20, 2011
2:57 PM

Post #8643050

Jen, you know I sew, quilt, knit, crochet, make rugs, anything to while the time away during this stupid weather.

The flowers aren't blooming, but with all the rain it is all really green, which is different from most years that are browning up by now,. Weather has been so off and on , today it has been overcast and trying to rain, so I expect a storm really soon, complete with thunder and lightning. But hope for the best.

My friends have found a house to rent, while they pump and dig out of the flood. Was about 100 miles away, but bad, and it hit three times in a week, I am sending up lots of things this week with her daughter. All of the extra seeds you folks sent are going up for her because she has nothing left in her garden and I feel so bad for her. So I know you would do the same. Hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings.

We seem to be out of danger for now, we have two rivers West of us and North is the Yellowstone, both are down, but lots of rain, or snow melting can change that in a heart beat.

JB I wish I were closer, I sure would give that hibiscus a new home. I had a tree (standard) but lost it this year. I do so love the tropical plants. But if you all remember, I really complained last year for lack of room to bring all of mine in.

See, I do get a word in once in a while. And I have even been nice!!!

Love ya, Lee

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 20, 2011
3:47 PM

Post #8643128

HA HA HA HA HA...Jen, you are so funny. I ducked and you missed me. LA LA LA. OOPS just tripped over the dog. S*** that hurt my good leg. Now I have two bad legs. WAAAAA.
I have more excuses than you have tomato plants. Of course I still work very hard. or is it hardly at all. I am about to retire for the summer because I have made enough money to take me out of the poverty list, so I will lay low the rest of the summer.

I will have more time to drive Jen crazy. You got edited, or did you do that. HA...naughty girl. If the shoe fits wear it. I do not think I specifically gave you any credit for anything. You can dish it out, but you can not take it. Speaking of taking it, did you take anything from the house you looked at. You know, any cuttings from all that neat garden? Well, you usually do, isn't that why you go see all these houses, just to get cuttings from the gardens. What do you want a big yard for? You do not, but you still look, and why? CUTTINGS!
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
4:01 PM

Post #8643149

LOL, Lee, first of all, I am sorry I must have been out to lunch when I wrote that 'cause I am well aware that you do. I am going to send you a D-mail with the question. But only if you promise not to tell JB. She thinks she is the worlds best scrubber maker.

Next, it is good to hear from you even if it wasn't in the slot I left you. That is so sad about your friends. Do they need any more seeds? I might have more I can send you. Glad you sent the extras.

A very interesting move your co-worker made, from CA to Bellingham Nancy. I hope he can take the winters there. You didn't say how long ago he moved there. Maybe he has been thru this wet wet last couple of months. 50 lbs !! That is wonderful. Hope he keeps it up. Bet he feels so much better doesn't he? Great.

Well, gotta go send Lee a D-mail. ttyl,


Ok now I have to edit again because you know who butted in while I was sending my post.

Whoops, it won't let me read what she said so I will have to let this one go.







This message was edited Jun 20, 2011 4:11 PM
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
4:30 PM

Post #8643221

Now she's blaming poor little Barney who was just trying to tell her he has diarrhea and has to go poop.

Retire?? you have been retired for the last 82 years!! Such as, never have done a thing in your life. Even have a house cleaner to come in now, another person to come in and clean the bird cages. Another to come in and clip your toe nails!! Are you so fat you can't reach them? Even have the vet come in to take care of Barney. How many people have a vet make house calls?

And you are accusing me of stealing cuttings from that gorgeous yard!! To tell you the truth it never entered my head. But now that you told me how, maybe I will. tee hee hee. Do you give lessons too?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
4:57 PM

Post #8643270

Boy, those people in admin sure did mess me up. Right in the middle of my posting they did a flip flop on the screen.
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

June 20, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8643286

Jen, I think you should request another showing, and bring the clippers. Just think of Sharon and the plainclothesmen hehehe.
I am hoping we can get the seeds in soon, so she can get a few plants before it goes back to the minus temps. I don't think there is enough time for any more than I sent to them. After all they will need to be shampooing, washing clothes, and etc so not much time for the gardening. So when we go up, I will plant for her, along with her daughter. Thanks for the offer tho, maybe next year. I do have a few cuttings that I will send--from whomever send me the coleus, and a few starts that I hadn't planted yet. I really didn't need those extra pots planted this year anyway!!!
Love ya, Lee
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 20, 2011
7:08 PM

Post #8643509

This always happens when I go on a thread, the thread gets busy and I can't keep up with all the banter and banterers. :( I am out of the loop.

I came out this morning to find my dog with a decapitated rabbit in it's mouth, when I went to feed her, she dropped and and the other one picked it up. We have a huge issue in the high desert with all kinds of rodents this year. mice, gophers, voles, I think and bunnies.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
8:58 PM

Post #8643751

Dawn, I hope your animals have had rabies shots.

I had the neatest post from a lady in the south. She is sending me some Southern food products to try. I thought that was so cool. I have never even posted with her before. I was just asking what some of the things were they were talking about on the food forum and out of the blue, she sent me a post saying she was going shopping to send me stuff.

It is so exciting!! And so nice of her. Problem is, how do I reciprocate? I asked her, food products, or plants, or?



katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 20, 2011
9:21 PM

Post #8643785

I just got home safe and sound. Am being mobbed by the five furry ones. Heat has arrived and our air has thickened.

More soon but wanted you all to know I made it home and my cold is almost gone.

hugs, katie
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 20, 2011
9:49 PM

Post #8643834

Good for you Katie. No problems? I am sure you would have said if you had. So, Welcome home.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 21, 2011
5:24 AM

Post #8644095

Jen, if you need food, there is a program called "food stamps" you could sign up for. Be sure she is not trying to send you something to make you sick. I AM NOT FAT. I AM CHUBBY. Why are you picking on me. Just because I am old, honest and loveable? You know I love you and think you are a very nice person. I just can't tolerate your stealing cuttings and trying to get free food from unknown people on the internet. Shame on you girl.

When you get as old as I am and have worked as hard as I did, and have married as many times as I did, you too will be able to afford all the help you want. So there! I have earned it and I intend to enjoy what they call the golden years.

Katie, welcome home. Hope your puppers do not eat you alive. I bet they are glad to see you.

Dawn, Barney used to chase the bunnies that got in his fenced in yard and kill them. He sometimes left them get away and those all had NO TAILS. He would bite them in the butt as they were getting through the fence and he pulled the tails right off them. It was not funny but yet it was. We had many bunnies with no little white tails. At least they were alive. They are good eating, but he never ate them. Just killed them and left they lay so I had to remove the carcass.

I can not make a perfect scrubby. Believe me I never said I was good at sewing. In fact just the opposite. I was an outside person. I was hunting and fishing and riding horse when most young ladies were learning all that crap. I can not even sew on a button correctly.

Where do you get all the nasty things you say about me. Do you have a book on how to be a smart ass? If not, you should write one so the rest of us can read up on what to except.

I hope you soon find some other hobby. Bashing me is making me tired. You are such a wingnut, but as I said I lub you.

To all the rest of you, I apologize for all the interruptions of the forum.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 21, 2011
7:06 AM

Post #8644291

Here is what real tomato plants look like. Not ones growing on straw bales. Straw is for horses stalls.

Thumbnail by JBerger
Click the image for an enlarged view.

Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 21, 2011
8:11 AM

Post #8644432

Good morning everyone:
well we are having a cool spell. the high is only 90 degrees. oh boy... boy you guys do enjoy the banter back and forth.

JB I cut back hibiscus where it looks like a stubby nothing and bring them inside to winter over. they seem to do ok with the treatment so you might try that this year. I do understand about the frustration of moving in and out. I have a set of banannas that will either winter over in their pots or die. I am thinking die because they are in huge 30 gallon pots and will have snow on them this year.

Welcome back Katie. I am glad you had a safe trip. so did we do anything special along the way?

well time to get busy packing the last order from yesterday. i lost my helper yesterday so I was on my own and had one left over.

Have a great day
Dave
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 21, 2011
8:37 AM

Post #8644488

Howdy folks - what a fun bunch. Welcome new folks. I am a newbie here too. I am much like Dawn and can't keep up all the time, but I have already learned things from this group from the few times I have dropped by.

Oh yeah, grand babies were here yesterday...today is recuperate day. Actually going this afternoon to meet another Dave's Gardener who is in the area camping. She has a couple of plants for me and I am taking her a couple from here too. Buttoneer visited us two months ago I believe. She is from Pennsylvania and she and her hubby are in to gold and gem prospecting. Virginia has a gold prospecters club they joined, so they will be traveling here quite often. I just love 99.9% of the folks I have met on Dave's. I have had the misfortune to get involved with a few crazies too who have thrown me for a loop, but don't let it get me down for too very long.

Jnette - I know what you mean about meeting great folks on Dave's and reaping good rewards. When I first became a member, I was forever opening my mailbox and having little thoughtful gifts in it. Very much of my house plant collection and many of our outdoor plants have come from Dave's members over the past five years. I stumbled upon Dave's garden years back when reading reviews of vacuum cleaners of all things. I was referred to a Dave's forum and somehow decided it was a great site. It has truly served as a real blessing for me over the years. And...I love the vacuums I have purchased due to glowing reports on the Dyson. hahaha

Linda...one of my greatest pet peeves is a the bug that seems to be associated with the Dave's software program which for no good reason loses messages in to cyber space. I cannot count the number of times I have had my words deleted in to cyber space, never to be read. Anyway...I keep trying.

A comment on misleading advertising pictures...yep, been fooled by that in the past. One year a nursery we deal with sent a glossy package presenting a very eye catching and beautiful looking blue Scabiosa.
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 21, 2011
8:48 AM

Post #8644502

Sent that before the cyber space Gods ate it. Anyway...I loved the look of this attractive Scabiosa even though the name was all that enticing. hahahaha I have been utterly disappointed with the collection we bought. The Scabiosa which has grown the best would best be labeled a weed. No, haven't pulled it up and fed to the goats yet, but get miffed every time I see it. Have to say though that this in year number three I believe, the Blue Scabiosa is looking quite lovely this year. Just wish I had bought a single blue one versus the whole ugly collection of them. Live and learn, live and learn.

One more comment and then off to prepare for the busy afternoon...Jberger...There is a possibility that my hubby John and I will be traveling your direction mid September. I would love to give a welcoming new home to your Salmon Hibiscus...it sounds gorgeous. I drive a station wagon type of car and will take whatever you have that may need a new, more southern home. It wouldn't be a road trip north if we didn't come home loaded down with a car load of plants. Heck, I might even have some goodies you would like to have and we can do a swap or something. Let me know...The others have given you ideas for keeping it over winter though...so if you want to hang on to it, I understand and don't blame you a bit.

I am always open for more plants and have many that I too can share with you good folks.
I am still thinking that I may be the donor of the seeds that grew Dawn's Rose Campion that she posted here a few weeks back.

I do know one thing that I will be looking for later on. I want to get a few Caster Beans to start a few plants next year. A few years back we had them growing every where and I saved seeds and shared with lots of Dave's members. I was looking recently and found five beans in my collection. I didn't even attempt to grow them this year, but really want to grow again next year.

Anyways...sorry to the lengthiness of my posts. I was just excited by all I read here today. Have a great day everyone and happy gardening.

Ruby
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 21, 2011
9:32 AM

Post #8644584

Ok, you guys are not complaining about this flip flopped format so now I wonder if yours are backwards. Are you writing on the righthand side of the screen? Now I am writing in a little block in the center. What the crap is going on?

I wonder if I am being censored. LOL, now I am as paranoid as JB. But this is driving me crazy. Yeah, JB, crazier than normal. I wrote to Melody and told her I didn't like this and asked if everyone has this. Haven't heard back from her yet.

Yes Ruby, I had not even talked to the lady before and all I did was ask what Zatarian's was. I think that is how it was spelled. You probably know what I mean. And apparently it is a Southern thing and she is sending me some things to try it. It was so sweet of her. And yes JB, I am sending her some of my food stamps for it.

So JB, whose yard did you sneak in to take the pictures of the tomatoes? I know they aren't yours. You would have cut them all off with the mower before they got that big. LOL, that is what she means by "cuttings". LOL. Good one Jeanette.

Ok, Dave is giving us the high sign to knock it off JB. It is his forum so he rules. Gotcha Dave.

So far this year we have had 2 days in the low 70s but most of them have been in the low 60s and hgh 40s at night. This week it is suppose to be in the mid to high 80s!! So, here we go again, no spring. The poor plants have not been able to grow at all. Their little feet were just shivering to keep warm. So now we are going to cook the tops.

Dave what do you think about giving them a shot of triple 20? These are my container plants on the decks. I haven't even gotten the weeds out of my perennial bed. Up until now it has done nothing but rain. Now it is going to be too hot. Bob helped me yesterday and we tried to get some weeds out but we got driven in and bloodied up by mosquitoes.

It is hard to keep all of the water things turned over. Things that the rain water settles in. A perfect breeding ground for the darned things. Every time I see a pot of water outside I turn it over. You would think eventually there wouldn't be any more, but it happens.

Well, got a drs. appt. so better go take a shower so I don't stink the place up. ttyl,
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 21, 2011
9:48 AM

Post #8644627

Well, I went on the Dave's Garden site and found out they are changing this so we are all going to be writing in little boxes now. Oh well, guess we'll get used to it and wonder how we ever did it any other way.

Have to make room for the advertisements that we all have turned off. That will be next. They will turn them back on for us. About then will be when we will all have to go to Cubits.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 21, 2011
12:33 PM

Post #8645008

Hey Dave, why not ask Kim is she wouldn't like that banana plant in the kitchen, you could have bananas on your cheerios every day and if it was in the kitchen it would be easy for her to pick them without going outside. OK, just a thought, stop frowning at me. And, I did cut the hibiscus for two years and it just grows bigger. LOL I think I found a home for it. My friends down the road may want it for a stock plant. It is theirs! Yahoo.

Jen, you have me in stitches when you talked about my tomato plants. I swear, they are mine and I did not plant them. My SIL takes care of them. He is such a darling. He cultivates and hoes them all the time. If they were mine they would be weeds as high as the tomato plants. You know I have a bad leg and a bad arm when it comes to pulling weeds.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 21, 2011
4:12 PM

Post #8645466

Jnette
>> Corey, aren't those cool weather plants? Have you guys had more rain than usual?

I thought so! Frost-hardy, in fact, mostly. But they sure have stalled (except for the Komatsuna and "Asian Spinach" (no ID). And MONTHS later than expected, the Snow peas have deigned to grow up a foot or two. But the Bok Choy in the ground: pathetic!

Maybe the heavy clay slowed them down.
Or the fact that frost only chnaged to cool, never warm.
Or the clouds or rain.
Or the fact that I plnated a few bok Choy in that bed last year and the year before.

Someone in WA urged growing most things as fall crops, as if we have no sring. that can't be right!

But I would give up gardening, in fact I would even give up eating greens things, just to get away from hot, humid summers.

97 in the shade at 10 am?? I would take all my clothes off and lay down in front of a fan, and/or melt right down into a puddle.

Corey

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 21, 2011
4:19 PM

Post #8645475

Where is the rest of the post I posted before Corey? No edit on there. Who is playing games?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 21, 2011
5:25 PM

Post #8645602

LOL, Terry and Melody couldn't read that fast so they pulled them out to read tonight. LOL

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 21, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8645860

I didn't step on it, honest! I know not to mess with New Jerseyites.

When they have specials on "breaka TWO aya legs fa da price of one!" I know to be respectfull.

Maybe the admins trimmed it to make more room for ads. ;-)

Corey
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 21, 2011
7:46 PM

Post #8645901

I know the peeps here at dg is what keeps me going on here. I almost don't go on many other threads anymore. Was thinking about not renewing but I get so much from plant trades and plant files, witty banter and seeds. Good obnoxious friends like myself.

I am up for renewal in 2 weeks. I am having surgery Thursday early our time, so keep me in your thoughts and prayers. We have to be there in the Los Angeles area and in bad traffic it could take 4 hours. We have to be there at 5 am. So we got a room tomorrow night and it will probably only take an hour at that time to get to the hotel. Greg can drop me off at the surg center and go back to the hotel to bed. Better for both of us.

Love ya guys.

Dawn
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 21, 2011
8:21 PM

Post #8645946

You are smart to do that Dawn. Just exactly what are they going to do? Have they told you how long the surgery would take? Well, whatever, will be thinking of you and hoping that all goes well. As it should.

Then there will be a long bout of physical therapy won't there? That's ok, 'cause it works.

You have to be there by 5 and your surgery will probably be about 9 or 10 o'clock. Jerks, that is what they always do. So, don't stew if you get caught up in traffic.

Sharon, where are you? Haven't heard from you for quite a while. We really haven't forgotten you. Just let anyone have a rest for a while but how long is a while?

After JB crashes I need someone to yak and jabber with. This is the first time Corey and Dawn have been on here in the evening. Think Dawn's is nervousness. Don't know what Corey's issue is. That's ok Corey. Did you guys have a nice day today? Should, it is suppose to be in the 80s here tomorrow.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 21, 2011
8:36 PM

Post #8645971

Dawn:

Hopefully the surgery will also provide renewal. Sometimes you have to be pushy in a hospital, so they notice your existence. Good luck with it being fast and effective. Good luck getting a hunky young PT afterwards.


Jnette:

>> Don't know what Corey's issue is.

Busy busy busy. Work varies wildly, and sometimes a boss snoops over my shoulder. But the money is good.

This thread is ACTIVE! Hard to keep up. Sometimes i let it go for a few days and have to scroll for miles.

Time to go home, "if you don't go home, you can't come back".

Corey
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 21, 2011
8:47 PM

Post #8645988

I am here. I worked in the garden yesterday in 100 degrees and over did it. I worked in the garden again today but after dinner when the area I was working in was in complete shade. We were 102 today, 105 tomorrow and 108 Thursday. Now Corey. that is hot.

We have GD's high school graduation tomorrow. Over 500 students graduating so it will be a long day. She is one of 8 Valedictorians and has a 1 minute speech. The only bad part is you leave when it is over and gather in front of the center and wait for the graduate to show. OK, picture this, outside, no shade, and 105 degrees. Not a pretty picture.

Lee, the plant you sent me is about 8 inches high and has the most darling flower on it. Tomorrow, I will take a photo. Everything Jnette sent me bit the dust. I think they thought they were sent to hell.

So I will return but probably not until Thursday. Be safe. Sharon

WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 21, 2011
8:49 PM

Post #8645991

Cross Post.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 21, 2011
9:04 PM

Post #8646015

>> We were 102 today, 105 tomorrow and 108 Thursday. Now Corey. that is hot.

True by any standards!

Here in western WA, they start panting and complaining about the heat around 80 ... and anything below 40 is "freezing".

I've started wimping out too, compared to living in humid parts of CT, NJ & NY. Not like YOUR "hot", but still hot enough to make me sweat.

Corey



Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 21, 2011
9:13 PM

Post #8646029

Where do you work Corey? Probably Boeing. Were you transferred,or is this new? And how long have you been in the PNW? Big change for a Joisey boy.

Oh oh now JB is going to yell at me again. It will take you a long time to get that out of your system. Did you have a choice of coming out here? That's ok. you will learn to love it. Do you have a family?

Yeah, just being nosy. But that's part of being on our forum here. How did you find us anyway? Think Katie drug over wasn't it? She's kind of cool.

Well nite you all. Take care Dawn. Give us a note when you can.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 21, 2011
9:20 PM

Post #8646037

I am with you, Jeanette! I don't like this new format either. And the fact that many of our posts get sent into cyberspace...Oh, well.

I IS weird typing in the middle box now. I tried to fix the position by going into the "My Tools" section, then changing the position, but it just didn't work. I thought I might have done something by accident, but you say they are changing the format of DG. Well, it is good that they "allowed" cubits to operate.

Sharon ~ The pink rain lily is going to send me another flower tomorrow, as a new bud has emerged. Also the pink verbena is now starting to bloom today. The hibiscus is still in recovery mode.

Dawn ~ Good luck with your surgery. And speedy recovery!

Corey ~ It is summer now, so if you still have 70 weather, sharon and I and who know who else will be at your doorstep. I hope you have lots of guest rooms.

Katie ~ It is good to have you home. Once you settle in, please share what you can about your adventures in CA.

Ruby ~ Cyber-gods? LOL!! So that is what is going on! I am glad someone has an explanation...


Well, I have to go now. Sleep well everyone
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 21, 2011
9:23 PM

Post #8646043

Yes Corey, and the humidity in Washington doesn't even compare with the East coast. But we all still complain. I shouldn't say we 'cause over here on the other side of the mountains it is dry. No humidity.

It is drier and warmer. Almost said hotter. But, we whimper over here if we get in the 90s. Guess we are just wusses. Our blood is thicker up here than where Sharon is. So when it gets hot then we feel it more. In the higher heats the blood is thinner so they are cold when they get up here.

You see, we don't get the heat more than a few days at a time. So our blood doesn't thin out. If it does, then we get cold when the temps drop a bit.

NF2932

NF2932
Winnetka, CA

June 21, 2011
10:50 PM

Post #8646144

Hi Jnette ... my co-worker has been in Bellingham for about a year now. I think the weather did require some adjustment on his part... but he was so thrilled to be retired and out of LA that I think he took it all in stride. He sure sounds happy there...

My husband and I took a trip up through the Pacific Northwest a few years ago and had a wonderful time in Washington... one of my best memories is of the lavender fields in Washington state... the colors and scents were amazing! ...and we found the absolutely best fish and chips in Port Angeles!! LOL!! We stayed at a lovely bed and breakfast there and spent our mornings whale watching from the cliffs while we drank our coffee... the B&B owner had a fantastic cottage style garden. We really enjoyed visiting the state. The only down side was that my poor husband got bit by a brown recluse spider while we were there... but thankfully he has fully recovered from that.

JB... the tomatoes look wonderful... mine aren't in nice neat rows like that... a little more informal... looks like you will have tons of tomatoes this year. Are they all the same variety? This year I have lots and lots of peppers... I planted 22 sweet pepper plants and 4 chilis... I admit I got carried away... but I was thinking salsa, peppers and eggs and cucumber salad with sweet peppers!! That is what happens if you garden when you're hungry I guess! :)

Hi Dave!

Nancy
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 22, 2011
6:53 AM

Post #8646484

Hi Everyone,

After not sleeping at all the night I got home I managed to stay up all day yesterday, then sllept at least twelve hours. Am feeling much more human now. The dogs and I started the day with a rousing game of "mauling mom" so they are all calm now and I can finish waking up.

Tony is here and says Fely (his wife) was thrilled with the stainless steel cookware set I brought her. We don't have many consumer goods here and what we have tend to be overpriced and hot very well made. Fely has a huge extended family so when I upgrade, they upgrade. I remember once walking in town to do my errands and seeing at least four people whom I didn't know wearing t-shirts I had brought for Tony's family. As I get my kitchen organized (will it ever get done?) I send extras home with Tony.

It was dificult getting through the border on my way up so I cancelled plans to see my friend in Exeter and will see her later this summer. Seeing Amma takes a lot of energy. I used to spend more time with her but it can be stressful and tiring so six days was plenty. It was very peaceful and also very tiring. I didn't get much sleep and I caught a cold - both par for the course. I'm almost over the cold and an still feeling very peaceful.

Besides seeing Amma and some of her follerers that I've known for many years I met some new friends and had some very nice connections. Met a young man who seeds oyster muchrooms in toxic dumps in South America. That was fun, talking about "Greening the Desert" (on YouTube) and fungi and cleaning up the environment.

Had a great lunch with my friend Patricia. We laughed the entire hour. We met through Amma over twenty years ago and have many good memories - and some really funny ones. One of my new friends is a transgender person who looks like James Brown wearing a woman's wig. It was his first time with Amma so I explained some things like how the apple she gave him each time he got a hug were a special belssing.

After one hug, Amma sked (through her translater) where I am living now bebcause, she said, she hasn't seen me as much as she used to. I explained that I'm living in Mexico now but assurred her that I'm always "with my Amma." She gave me an apple. That was incredible.She's hugged at least 31 million people, travels constantly, seeing thousands of people a day and, to me, she said, basically, "Where have you been? Haven't seen you much lately." I know she loves and cares for all of us but I really like it when she pours on a llittle extra reminder. She has been of so much help to me. You can read about her and her humanitarian work at www.amma.org or www.embracing the world.org. She says, "My relgion is love."

I say my dentist in Chula Vista nd, for the first time, had an adult tooth pulled (for being 70 I think that's pretty good). He told me all my other teeth are in good shape and was coomplimentary about the care I've gotten for them. I like sompliments.

Brought home four marked-down sad-looking bluberry plants from Wal-Mart. Supposed to be low-chill. My three from Logees are hanging in.

Our hot and humid weather has arrived and I slept in my air-conditioned bedroom last night for the first time this year.

Tony did his usuall wonderful job of taking care of things. Even did some clean-up in the kitchen which is a huge help. We lost a few small plants but still have a lot, including about a dozen small cherimoya trees. Down to one arhat plant - keeping my fingers crossed.

My Temple Godess Brug is putting ona show - twenty beautiful white flowers. Twostrictum (epis) are blooming for the first time.

Jen are you having shoulder surgery? Ted (TPlant) just had his right shoulder completely replaced. He has a thread in the Accessible Gardening Forum about it. Hope your surgery is not as intensive; that all goes well and you have a blissful recovery.

Almost done but one last thing. I think I have mentioned the nasty sores I get on my arms (and ledgs and face sometimes). They have plagued me for years. I've gotten to where I give them the best treatment my doctor and I have figured out and I live with them. I did not ask Amma for a healing as I figure if it's time for them to be healed completely she'll take care of it. Until then, maybe there's a reason for them - like they remind me to wash a lot, especially after playing in the dirt. Within an hour of my leaving Amma to head for home a new friend showed my a powder she had gotten in Amma's bookstore than was drying up some bites she had gotten. I quickly bough some and have been applying it and it's working miracles The sores are drying up and healing.

Now if Amma would just care of my extra weight!! Some pray to be made whole; I pray to be made half.

love you all and am glad to be back.

hugs, katie

katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 22, 2011
7:16 AM

Post #8646531

I forgot to tell you that one of my dragonfruitplants has two flowers on it!!!

kb
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 22, 2011
7:51 AM

Post #8646608

good morning campers:

Ruby: I can apreciate your distaste of nasty posts. trust me we don't do that here and we do not tolerate it. anything that gets nasty and out of hand will be delt with very swiftly. I know jb jeanette and sharon all take little jabs at each other and its all fun. Had someone told me it was not I would stop it.

jeanette: be carefull doing a top dress of triple 20. I would try like a 1/2 a teaspon maybe less to start. It does depend on the makeup of the fertilizer. how big is the pot? how much is amonia nitrate and how much is urea? amonia nitrate releases imeadiately where the urea has to be broken down by water and time. If it were me I would do something like osmocote or dynamite on the potted plants. on the ground is onething but a potted plant you can fry quickly. it has less soil to disperse the fertilizer into and a compact root zone.
If you do over do the top dress you can pull off the excess fertilizer and drench the rootball several times to flush it out of the soil.

JB the tomatoes look great.

Corey:
you need to amend the clay with something to bust up the clay. we use a product put out by back to nature its cotton seed hulls. it does wonders for the soil structure. if you are composting I would till some in to the garden every year befoe long you will have a nice garden soil. we do raised beds so we can work out our soil issues in advance. the problem I have is my BIL compacted the mushroom compost/topsoil mix so its tough to grow in untill i get it roto tilled. he thinks he know everything and when I told him not to compact it he just did it more. Jerk...
I am glad he is out of the house. best thing he ever did was to allow his girls to finish high school here. Last one has one year left then onto cullinary arts school at an associates degree college. its a part of the 4 year Oklahoma state university. they have 4 satalite schools for trades.
We are experiencing a cold spell now its only 90 degrees for the high. i don't care who or where you are anything over 90 is hot. I know I could not take the washington weather and kim loves it up there. she has trouble with the heat and humidity so I am guessing we are stuck in and along interstate 40 for the most part.

I am turning my grow room into a shipping and stained glass studio. I just have to raise the $$$ for a new diamond ring - saw. it uses a round blade that spins. the blades are incrusted with diamonds to cut glass. I really loved the one I had but i thought I would not be back into it and a new model had just come out so i thought I would sell it and then buy a new one when I started back up again.

well time to get moving outside One more week of shipping and then its on hold till mid to late auguat and then untill late october. I wont be doing the seed cart this winter as I had more trouble with it than its worth. I am loaning it to my dad so he can do veggie starts.

ok I have rattled on long enough JB and Jeanette go to your corners and wait for the bell...lol
The pic is of a dl cross i started from seed. I am thinking about posting it on market place or tinker's garden.

Dave

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RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 22, 2011
9:32 AM

Post #8646782

Good Morning, fellow inmates

Jnette,
>> Where do you work Corey? Probably Boeing.

Indirectly: I work for Crane Aerospace (they bought out Eldec and Hydro-Aire). I used to be on a project where crane worked for GE who worked for Boeing (Third Tier supplier). Then Boeing reached forth its mighty hand and made us work for them directly, so they could beat us up more easily. So I was briefly a SECOND Tier supplier.

Then we finsihed the brake control (antiskid etc) for the 787, and I got put to work briefly on an Italian jet trainer (Aermachi brake system rework, from a 2002 project, MUCH simpler than the 787).

Now I'm working on an Airbus Military project in Spain, the A400M - brakes again, but wierd because the military plans on working even with holes going through-and-through the system, which adds whole new levels of challenge.

And that project is almost over. I don't know where I'll be working when the music stops: call me a migrant laborer. Embraer? The "stretch" 787? It could be anything aviation-related, this indiustry is incredibly inbred.

Evelyn,
>> Corey ~ It is summer now, so if you still have 70 weather, sharon and I and who know who else will be at your doorstep. I hope you have lots of guest rooms.

Only if the Borg-condos a-building next door rent out rooms. When I took over housing the New Bee stash, I had to hang the cat from the ceiling to make room.

Maybe in the shed ...

Dave,
>> you need to amend the clay with something to bust up the clay

Yeah, totally. I could use 10 yards of any kind of organic matter, if I could wheelbarrow that much without my legs falling off.

I did buy a yard each of fine pine bark mulch and coarse sand, and all the compost I feel I can afford (way not enough), by the 1-cubic-rfoot-bag. I amend one raised bed at a time, about 1/2 as much as it really needs, then grow things in it and top-dress with compost & mulch.

If I had more sunny space, I would SLIGHTLY amend the very top layer of clay that I've excavated (and am screeneing a fe wwheelbarrows at a time) ... and grow radishes and clover and Fall Rye on top to make my own compost. (The sunny sports all have raised beds now, or bushes that I hope management doesn't notcie I am gradually yanking out and replacing with RBs.)

If I had access to a truck that I could get filthy and smelly, I would take free biolsolids from the town of Everett. I hate to pay for delivered Cedar Grove "compost" - reading the fine print, it is made with lots of sawdust, then they add more sawdust, then they add more wood-product-waste ... then charge about what I pay per bag for "steer manure compost". Sigh.

I better get to work before they notice!

BTW, our "Landing Systems" division must have noticed the team slogan we whimpered while working on 787 brakes: "Make it STOP!"

The whole "Landing Systems" division just took on the slogan "STOP IT!"

Our sensing division copyed them and now uses "SENSE IT" as a motto.

We also make first-seats airline seats' motion control and fancy doo-dads: "MOVE IT".

I would have used different mottos, but then I'm from Joisey so whaddo I know?

"Sense THIS!"
"Sit On THIS!"

Corey
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
1:24 PM

Post #8647287

Dave, not sure what you mean by top dressing with triple 20? I am talking about water soluble and watering with it. You think not? Maybe I should use the tarantula etc. first. I kind of hate to use that on my petunias and other annuals tho. Altho I don't know why not, it seems like that is what I am spending most of my time, energy and money on. Because it has been so cold the roots haven't grown a lot I am sure. Now that it is warming up, the tops probably won't grow because there aren't enough roots to support them. Huh?

Now what do you think?

One more thing Dave, since this is a propagation forum, I didn't prune my 9 Bark that I have in a pot on the deck and it is really growing. Do you think I could cut it back now, 'course it is just getting ready to bloom too, maybe I should wait 'til it blooms, and then prune it back and try to root some cuttings? But then since I am sure it is under patent what would I do with them? According to you and JB, I can give them away but not sell them. But what if whoever I give them to propagates them and sells them? Then what?

What if I give one to JB, she's always out to make a buck, and the propagation cops cat
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
1:26 PM

Post #8647291

Dave, not sure what you mean by top dressing with triple 20? I am talking about water soluble and watering with it. You think not? Maybe I should use the tarantula etc. first. I kind of hate to use that on my petunias and other annuals tho. Altho I don't know why not, it seems like that is what I am spending most of my time, energy and money on. Because it has been so cold the roots haven't grown a lot I am sure. Now that it is warming up, the tops probably won't grow because there aren't enough roots to support them. Huh?

Now what do you think?

One more thing Dave, since this is a propagation forum, I didn't prune my 9 Bark that I have in a pot on the deck and it is really growing. Do you think I could cut it back now, 'course it is just getting ready to bloom too, maybe I should wait 'til it blooms, and then prune it back and try to root some cuttings? But then since I am sure it is under patent what would I do with them? According to you and JB, I can give them away but not sell them. But what if whoever I give them to propagates them and sells them? Then what?

What if I give one to JB, she's always out to make a buck, and the propagation cops catch her, she says she didn't know they were under patent 'cause I didn't tell her? She would love to see me in stripes. LOL She would bring me some gruel.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 22, 2011
1:36 PM

Post #8647312

Some Diablo ninebark prunings at my house fell from a tin of rootone into a pot of promix and accidentally took root, when I wasn't looking. About half of them grew. Right where they fell. The softer wood seemed to enjoy falling and growing in a new place more. I was sooo surprised!
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 22, 2011
3:06 PM

Post #8647471

Dropping in to say hello. Wanted to wish Dawn the best of luck with the surgery. Check in with an update when you can Dawn.

Happy growing to everyone.

Ruby
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
3:57 PM

Post #8647607

Celene, that is so cool. What did you do with them. I need to look at the tag on mine for the name. Something about Center Coral Nine Bark. I will have to look at the tag on it.

They rooted that easy huh? What time of year was it? Maybe that is what made it easy. What kind of cutting were they?

Yes, we should hear from Dawn sometime in a few days. I would bet she will be pretty sore for a while. I have heard that surgery is very painful.
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 22, 2011
4:13 PM

Post #8647686

Have a good surgery, Dawn. Lots of prayers going out for you.

hugs, katie
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 22, 2011
4:14 PM

Post #8647695

Howdy everyone:
yes I would go ahead and water with the water soluble and the tarantula at least once to get some of the little guys moving in the soil.
now is the time for propagation and its full swing (saaawing).

Corey: how composted is their sawdust bark and wood particles? I know when all that breaks down it heats up the soil and can cook roots if its really fresh. not to mention the nitrogen being used to break all that down.
I am like you I buy my soil a bag at a time. I am looking at changing soils because miricle grow did something to their soil because it doesn't feel right.

Ruby: do you have a pic of the hillside with daylilies? it should be in full swing now. I am getting some great flowers from my 3 yr old crosses.

here is another pic from today.

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 22, 2011
4:15 PM

Post #8647700

the beauty of these new flowers is that i get to name them as they are new croses. sorry but I cross posted and had to get the last word in
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 22, 2011
4:16 PM

Post #8647706

Dawn you are in my prayers for a short surgury and rabid recovery.
Dave
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 22, 2011
4:28 PM

Post #8647726

Let's make that a rapid recovery.

kb

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 22, 2011
4:38 PM

Post #8647742

>> Corey: how composted is their sawdust bark and wood particles? I know when all that breaks down it heats up the soil and can cook roots if its really fresh. not to mention the nitrogen being used to break all that down.

I wish i was adding enoguh risk cooking! No, cold wspring + rain = cool roots.

But the Nitrogen depletion is a very good point, I don't know how I forgot that. I've been thinking "don't overdo the chemical fertilizer", but now I'm thinking: "So THAT's why everything is so slow and pathetic this spring!"

I added more bark to counteract the reversion to claty as last years' compost is digested, but forgot to supplement the N.

ARRGH. Time for some water-soluble ferts, and sprinkle/rake in some generic lawn-fertilizer pellets.

Corey
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
6:39 PM

Post #8647952

Hold it Corey!! Dave, I thought you all with clay soil used gypsum!! I have never had clay, so never tried it, but I thought that was what you said.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
6:43 PM

Post #8647956

Dave, you didn't answer me about the patents on the 9 bark. My post above Celene's.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 22, 2011
7:08 PM

Post #8648000

>> gypsum

I've heard some people praise it and others see little difference. It is cheap, so i boguht & sprinkled.

It's no miracle cure!

But gee, Calcium Sulphate? It couldn't hurt.

Excuse me: "it cudn #$%^&*$# hoit".

Corey

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 22, 2011
7:34 PM

Post #8648062

I took my ninebark cuttings in April, dipped them in rootone and stuck about 15 of them in a gallon pot with promix. About half of them lived. They were softwood cuttings, I think it's harder to root chunky hardwood.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
8:10 PM

Post #8648127

So what did you do with the ones that lived Celene? I mean, you can reproduce a lot that way, but then what? That is what I was asking Dave.

Flowers are one thing, but shrubs like the 9 Barks take up a lot more room.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 22, 2011
8:44 PM

Post #8648170

J nette:

I posted a link to the Patent and Trademark Office's rules regarding patented plants.

The patent absolutely prohibits any asexual reproduction of a patented plant. It doesn't matter if you give it away or sell it. The plain language says that if you reproduce the plant via cuttings you are in violation of the patent.

A.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 22, 2011
10:52 PM

Post #8648275

Thanks Amanda. I did read that and it used to make sense to me but I am getting too old to bother reading it carefully any more.

Glad you gave it to me in plain language. Thank you.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 23, 2011
1:44 AM

Post #8648335

I traded them at the ORVG Roundup, of course. Every year, someone wants those, or Hakuri Nishiki willow. I need to trim back some viburnum that is keeping me from opening my garage door, I'll risk a gallon pot of soil and see how they do.

I have a couple of small Aglaia odorata,they snapped off the plant when I bought it, I was surprised they rooted. The plectranthus ernstii that I trimmed off my large plant, no shock they're rooting well. It's a nice plant, though no particular challenge to grow or root. I like a plant that grows out well without feeling like you're married to it.

I'm completely over the "Oh, this plant cost more than my car on Ebay, grows only in the buttcrack of Sumatran leaf monkeys and it needs watered with the tears of saints and simply must be fertilized with composted $50 bills" gardening philosophy. This being said, I grow enough fussy gesneriads, but only if the foliage or flower or overall look is worth it, and if the plant is a prima donna, it'd better be spectacular or it will end up composted and fertilizing something that is more rewarding. hahaha...that sounded so mean, but so true for me. I use it to threaten poor growers and unrepentant PITA plants.
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 23, 2011
8:22 AM

Post #8648846

Good morning Everyone,

I've been wetting sphagnum moss and coir, getting ready to pot up some of my seedlings. Also trimmed and added sphagnum moss to my four new blueberries.

It is hot and humid and it will only get worse over the next few months. Tony picked up a gallon of fresh orange juice on his way here today - one of the perks of living here.

I'm with Celene on plants. I call my place "Darwin's Garden." No pampered plants here, except I'm watching over my last arhat carefully. This year I also got a lot of seeds for flowers that should do well here with emphasis on those which might reseed themselves. I have one hibiscus that flowers almost constantly in spite of white moldy-looking stuff it often has on it. I've planted other hibiscus but they haven't survived.

Tony got lots more tires while I wqas gone and he's been working in the arroyo though it's getting hotter there by the day. I'm almost over my cold but it takes me several weeks to regain some energy after a trip to Ca. so I haven't joined him yet. I did get some laundry done yesterday.

With lots of potting soil prepared I now get to the fun part - planting the seeds. In this weather many of them pop up almost instantly. Wish the weather invigorated me the way it does many of the plants. Almost none of the seeds I tried to start before I went to Ca. have germinated. A lot of them were fussy ones so now I'm going to do things like zinnias. Speaking of which do any of you follow the zinnia adventures of the Zen person on the hybridizing forum? He has posted some amazing pictures of crosses he has done.

Well, much as I would really like to go back to bed I am going to return to playing in the dirt.

hugs, katie
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
8:57 AM

Post #8648929

Which Viburnum is it Celene? LOL, guess I travel in different circles than you do. I have never known people to care what a plant costs unless of course it is to determine how badly they want the plant to pay the price.

Celene, what is your USDA zone? Just curious. In other words, you don't buy any plant that will not grow in your zone? Like house plants. The thing I have come to feel about them is that somewhere they are a plant that grows outside. So, if it can't take the cold weather that we have, and I want it bad enough, it is going to be a house plant. Then if I want it bad enough, I have to do what I can to imitate it's native environment.

Do you have any houseplants?
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 23, 2011
10:10 AM

Post #8649075

Good morning ...ooops afternoon:
Jeanette amanda is correct you are not suposed to do anything but enjoy the # of plants you have paid for.

Yes gypsum is suposed to work and I too have had folks tell me both great things and not so great things about it. My best advise is to amend the soil with organic matter. Some people have told me they (top dress) mulch their plants with compost. I wish I knew if it worked its way into the soil. it must or where else would it go every year. I just like to know things for sure before I advise to do it. Made to many mistakes that way.
I worked at one nursery that the owner was saying you can't put too much milorganite in the hole of a planting. that was untill a guy came back and wanted a new plant because he put a whole bag in each planting hole. Its the old if some is good more is better way of thinking.

Right now you want to take cuttings that are not hard and woody but also not weak and flimsy either. I am planning to try doing some yew and a red leaf norway (I think) maple Its got the leaf like the canadian flag but dark purple colored.
and seeds lots of seeds at the moment. I have 12 trays to do so I should keep busy today.
have a great day
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
11:05 AM

Post #8649172

Now Dave, I think, even tho that is right, that definition is pretty darned rigid. If I bought a plant and wanted more of them in different places around my yard and could start them from cuttings, I think I would be pretty stupid to go out and spend a fortune buying those plants. Unless, of course, I wanted instant gratification in having all of them the same size.

And I consider myself pretty law abiding. After all I did retire from a law enforcement agency after 22 years. But, I would not consider myself a criminal for doing as I stated above. So I suppose you and Amanda would call me an anarchist. LOL

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 23, 2011
12:07 PM

Post #8649299

Jen Girl, it is off to the lock up with you my love. Bad Bad Jen. I have read the patent information several times and having spent so many years reading legal documents I got the same results from it as Amanda did. Yet, I can not imagine, if you have a patented hosta in your yard and you separate it and keep it someplace else in your yard it would be difficult for the "Plant Police" to prove you are in violation of this Patent Law.

I was hoping that the patents from Canada would not be valid in the USA and I can find nothing about that. Amanda, did you find anything like that. A patent is a patent and is good everywhere according to what I read. So, if you want to trade and sell, watch for the PP on all the plants you purchase. I told you I bought some that did not have that on and they were all Canadian Patented. Makes me so furious. I do not have space for plants I can not propagate. Thanks Amanda for checking that out for us. It is always good to have two opinions. Hugs to you for that.

Dawn, prayers for you coming from me. Love you! Get well soon.

Have really had a busy day trying to get things irrigated because this dry hot weather is very hard on the Aimees as well as the baby trees. Irrigation hoses running for hours and carrying water for others.

See you later. JB




Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 23, 2011
12:12 PM

Post #8649303

You seem pretty sketchy, Jnette. lol I'm zone 5b/6a, depending on who you believe.

I have tons of houseplants and some tropicals that I move in and out. Even those, if I can't reasonably grow them with anything more complicated than a pebble tray, they're out. Some plants require growing conditions that I just can't provide, and I'm unlikely to be motivated to move mountains to change the growing conditions.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 23, 2011
1:14 PM

Post #8649429

JB you are right but acording to the definition of the patent its pretty clear. I am sure they know a few propagated plants get taken but its not worth their while to persue. its kind of like the copying of a dvd or misic file. by rights if you do not have a liscense and have not paid for one you can't copy it. I realize dvd's now come with a digital copy for your own use as once you buy the movie its yours.
Have we beaten this horse to death yet??
The plant police are on their way jen. now what was that address???? lol

I agree with you jb I am pretty carefull in what I buy to plant and I end up with a few that the tags say it and I just did not see it when I bought it. I have a rose salvia like that. it sits in its 4" pot untill my mom comes and gets it. she is too far away for me to go get cuttings from her yard. after all 20 min. is a long drive to me, unless I can sleep part of the way.

I did get some pretty good orders this week. got about 300 plants going out. I guess the key was make them cheap enough. most everyone I have there was room to come down in price on them. at this rate I should have done it in april and had the best year ever.
Have a great afternoon
Dave
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 23, 2011
1:26 PM

Post #8649466

That's great, Dave. I'm so glad your hard wowrk is paying off.

hugs, katie
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
3:26 PM

Post #8649725

OK you patent geniuses. I have baby Japanese Blueberry trees coming up all over my landscape. How do I know if they are patented. I have been putting them in my holding garden and I was going to send them to Dave and JB. I have two and my neighbor has 4. How am I suppose to find out if they are patented. And the seed was probably delivered by a bird. They did not come from cuttings. Also have another tree propagated the same way. I have two I found today. I will get the name. I will return later. Sharon.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 23, 2011
4:27 PM

Post #8649851

Oh Dave, I am so happy you are having a good year. The problem is, we lower the prices and get almost nothing for our time and supplies. I am sick of the lowering prices to sell, yet we have to do it to make room. I am trying to think of a way to make up our loses. I had a good year but only because I did some wholesale stuff. Otherwise there is no money out there due to the economy. The landscapers are not making money on the plants, they make their money on their labor. We should learn from that. LOl.

Sharon, like anything else, we can be so careful and yet how do you know for sure. I must say, if there is any chance in hell something someone gives me that I grow is patented, I check it out. Just google the name of the plant. If there is a patent someplace in the background, you can be sure it will show up. That is what I have been doing. If not. Go for it.
O.K. Dave, we will stop now, but really it is a very good subject when you think about it.
So many people and I bet we know some, do not really care, that is what scares me. We have ethics, many backyard growers never give it a thought. A man from the UK told me he never heard of Patented Plants. Was that on this forum or another? That did not surprise me. I learned when I bred birds that may people who bought them had no idea they had to buy a license from the State within 20 days to keep the bird in NJ. HA! They soon learned when they got the sales slip from me because the bird was already registered. I had no choice if I wanted to keep my license.
Most people just play around and plant what they like without thinking about anything else. That is The way a hobby should be. Enjoy.
Going to bed. Had a rough day trying to keep things watered as I told you earlier. We had a storm but not much rain. I hate those dry storms. Scary lightening. Yikes. Nite all.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
5:47 PM

Post #8649973

Hmmmm sketchy, licking my pencil tip, one for my book Celene, now if you will tell me what it means. LOL

DAVE, JB, waving my arm over my head furiously. "I am trying to think of a way to make up our loses." (BTW JB, it is spelled "losses")
I got it! Sell cuttings from patented plants!! snicker, tee hee hee.

Sharon!! Ignorance is no excuse! You know that. Meet you at the Cross Bar Hotel.

That's what you call dry lightning JB. It is what starts fires.

Had a tough day today. Got two packages., One was from the lady in GA I told you about. Wow she really sent me some good stuff. I can hardly wait to try it. Several different rices, coating for fish to fry, gumbo, Jambalaya, shrimp and crab boil, blackened seasoning, Think that's it. All Zatarain's brand. We don't get their products here so it will be fun trying it.

THEN, I got 2 Earthboxes with all the stuff, and it was suppose to go to a guy in Hawaii. And, my covers I ordered for mine probably went to him. Think I got the best of the deal on that one. His dad included a card to him. I really feel bad. I called Earthbox people and hope they can straighten it out. His son is going to wonder what in the world is he going to do with 3 red covers that look like big shower caps. LOL


WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
5:54 PM

Post #8650003

Well, I will Google the names and see what I find.

I took a few photos so I will post them.

The first photo is the "Blue Flower" Lee sent me. It is so small but so beautiful because it is blooming. I have another "blue" plant from Evelyn but not blooming. We are 110 today.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:09 PM

Post #8650040

This is one of two tropical Hibiscus that spent the winter in the third car garage in pots.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:10 PM

Post #8650043

One of my first cannas to bloom. A new variety.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:13 PM

Post #8650051

Before photo of tomato garden.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:15 PM

Post #8650055

Today's photo of tomato garden.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:24 PM

Post #8650070

Before photo on thr garden going up the driveway toward the house. I think about 5 months ago.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:27 PM

Post #8650080

Photo taken right before I went to Washington state pf driveway garden.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:41 PM

Post #8650128

Before photo of pot at top of driveway.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:44 PM

Post #8650140

Photo a few weeks ago of pot. There are two pots but they are identical. These pots were butt ugly yellow before I painted them. They are made out of resin.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:45 PM

Post #8650143

Another angle of same pot, I think. Forgot to post photo. See below.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:47 PM

Post #8650153

This is a tree that spent the winter in the garage. Purple hanging flower. I cannot remember name. I will look it up.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
6:50 PM

Post #8650161

A very invasive vine sent to me by Pirl on DG from New York. I have it in a pot. Third year and it is really ready to take off. I saw it for sale in Washington state during my visit at several nurseries..

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
6:52 PM

Post #8650167

Everything looks good Sharon. What does your temperature get down to at night? I think that is why our tomatoes take so long. Because the night time temps get down so low. 'course it doesn't help that each day is totally different. Today I don't think it got to 65. It will be like that for a week. Then all of a sudden it will get up to 85. And of course the night times fluctuate along with the daytime temps.

How long have you lived in your house Sharon? Just curious. Now I see that all the ones in the last picture are in pots. Do you change those often? Are they perennials or annuals?

I see those nice big tomatoes on you plants. They will be red before long in your temperatures. I showed Bob your tomatoes and he wants to know if you have any bacon down there. I told him yes, you also grow a hog to go with the tomatoes.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 23, 2011
6:52 PM

Post #8650168

Propagating Our Way Into Prison

(I'm reminded of Archi Bunker who "didn't want no reproduction on HIS coffee table!")

Jnette

You could take some comfort in the thought that if they hauled you off to prison for propagating a plant for your own use, we would all viist you in prison and tease you mercilessly.

My suggestion is to let the name tag fall off the plant before you take the cutting, providing the defense: "I forgot which one it was". Unless you get a jury capable of distinguishing one cultivar from another from photos, they might have to do a plant DNA test to lock you up.

>> The patent absolutely prohibits any asexual reproduction
>> of a patented plant. It doesn't matter if you give it away or sell it.

I thought about that. It does NOT seem to prohibit SEXUAL propagation, so we should be allowed to collect F2 seeds from the patented F1 hybrid plant, and grow them.

And select and cross the F2 & F3 offspring for traits we like, like "looks a lot like the parent".

It seems to me that the exact words do not forbid us to take, grow and even sell cuttings from plants that WE grew from seed.

In other words,
buy the F1 plant
collect F2 seeds
grow out many F2 seeds
select
take F2 cuttings
root F2 cuttings
plant, give away (or even sell) F2 cuttings
(NOT using the patented name, but probably giving credit)

That might skirt the intent of the law, but I wouldn't feel bad about any part of that other than "and sell".

If it really was a rare and fragile recessive trait that they managed to create, maybe almost none of the offspring will show it.

Jnette, if you want to get criminally rich, you have to be a lawyer. Don't sell cutttings of patented plants to get rich. Sell patented plants with the "PP" in very small print. Then get rich suing anyone who propagates them.

Sue people who grow anything that looks remotely like them.

Sue people who WALK PAST plants that like it.

Sue anyone that moves.

I think that is the path to criminal riches.

Corey

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 23, 2011
6:54 PM

Post #8650172


The Zinnia Zen Man

Yeah, cool guy. He got me excited about selecting back to a certain kind of Zinnia that Idecided I wanted. I discussed with him what varieties to start from. well, it turns out that are already many cultivars JUST like what I hoped to work towards.

So I bought some Benary Giants, Oklahoma and Gem in Scarlets, Oranges and Yellows, and saved myself years of fun. And the frustration of having early rains turn my seedheads to mold. And low pollination rates.

Corey

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 23, 2011
6:54 PM

Post #8650175

Sharon,

Good point! What if a patented plant puts out runners? It propagated itself! We have to send the plant to jail!

But if your ill-gotten trees came from seeds, they were sexually propagated and you are off the hook.

They would not even need to find and arrest the bird.

Corey

WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
7:23 PM

Post #8650247

Corey you are hilarious.

Jnette, I probably have over 40 pots. I have a major problem with neighbor's tree roots going under fence to suck up my water. I also have two very large African Sumac in the back and one in the front. They are always sending out roots looking for water. Pots are just easier. Each is on an irrigation line. Then I have about 10 hanging baskets in various areas, also on irrigation.

We have been here 10 years last March. It took the builder over 2 years to build and the landscaper, that charged a bundle, did half of what he said he had done. My main concern was the depth of the landscape soil and the irrigation. I hope someday I accidentally run into that Landscape Architect. It took over 6 months, after starting on the gardening, that I spent getting the landscape soil where and how I wanted it. I was just to busy making money to pay attention. But he did do a great job on my two raised gardens which are on the northwest and southeast side of the home.

Our high today actually was 107 and our low will be 85 and that will be around 2am. But when the sun goes down, the back patio is very comfortable and we do not have mosquitoes.

Jnette, some of the plants are perennials and some are annuals. I plant violas in November and they grow and bloom until middle of June,. I just pulled them two days ago. I have many bulbs and ground cover. I do many ground covers in my baskets. House plant ivy lives here year round. Does not freeze but does not like hot sun. I had trees located to make the shade where I wanted it. Helps the garden and helps keep the house cooler.

No, I do not have a hog but Whole foods has great bacon. And somewhere today on DG I saw a recipe for peanut butter, tomato and bacon sandwich.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
7:27 PM

Post #8650254

Dave and everyone, does anyone know what this is? It is growing among my daylilies. It looks like a day lily plant until it puts on the head. Looks like a very strong weed... There is about 6 plants among the many daylilies.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
7:29 PM

Post #8650258

Close up of above mentioned plant.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
7:31 PM

Post #8650263

One more photo.

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Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 23, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8650267

Nutsedge. Evil demonic prolific weed from h***.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
7:33 PM

Post #8650270

Thanks you. Where in the world would it come from. I will go out right now and pull it up.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
7:35 PM

Post #8650275

Corey.,

You were talking apples and oranges. Seeds vs cuttings.

I can't believe you watched Archie Bunker Corey. Those were the good old days. Can you imagine a show like that being on today?

Ok, back to this propagating:

Amanda, JB, Dave, Corey wrote: "It seems to me that the exact words do not forbid us to take, grow and even sell cuttings from plants that WE grew from seed."

Is that true? From patented plants.



WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
7:42 PM

Post #8650311

But we did not plant them. The birds or the wind planted them and we just moved them.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
8:11 PM

Post #8650407

I'll go along with you on that Sharon. Sounds good to me. Can't help what the animals do. Then according to Corey, we can take cuttings from them.

You know JB has gone to bed so we can talk about her now.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
8:19 PM

Post #8650419

Well she might not be sleeping because she has a black buzzard sitting on the top of a silo looking down on her house. She thinks it might be waiting for her. I told her it was probably lost and was looking for you. She posted it on Facebook.

I have had many individuals give me plants and the PP have never showed up at my door. But I am not trying to sell them.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 23, 2011
8:36 PM

Post #8650494

I may solve all of our problems by clicker training my dogs to plant cuttings of patented plants.

Who asked me if I had house plants? I just ran out of 3" pots from my stack of 100, potting up rooted episcia stolons, tricolor variegated av's, chiritas, streptocarpus and assorted oddball seedlings and cuttings.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 23, 2011
9:11 PM

Post #8650575

Celene, you speak martian as far as I am concerned. But I was raised in a very small mining town in Pioche, Nevada. Dirt streets, but we did have indoor plumbing but no TV until 1958. Town could not afford the mountain booster. I graduated in a class of 28. Just about private classes with 10 students in many not elected classes. I was not an "A" student but I was editor of the year book an leader of the pep band. Selling at the age of 15. Look out young lady. LOL, Mother Winter
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 23, 2011
9:56 PM

Post #8650664

I played in the dirt most of the day. There are two apples about ready to pick - my total crop for this year.

Still not over the cold and I'm feeling like I also should not need time to recover from my trip. I'm tired and grumpy. It's about bed time. It takes about three weeks for me to recover from the trip. Tony helps to keep me on an even keel. And the dogs are almost always happy to take it easy.

We have lots of little papaya trees. I'd given up on them but there are lots now. Guess they just needed the right temperature. I've also got lots of volunteer Malabar spinach plants. I will pot some of them up for my friends who have a farm and a grocery store.

I'll be back tomorrow.

hugs, katie
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
10:12 PM

Post #8650684

I don't know about you all, but my computer is putting all of our posts out of order. It is crazy.

I got an email from Ma Vie, with no subject and clicked on it. To open it and I know better. It said I had a virus. But I got it straightened out.

I haven't heard from Ma Vie in ages. but would not be odd to hear from her now. So, who knows.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 23, 2011
10:18 PM

Post #8650688

Katie, I keep buying that Malibar Spinach, but never seem to get it planted. I might this year tho. I bought it again so hopefully. I am going to put it in a pot with some beans or something.

Do you like it? I have never tried it. But, why not have some in the summer instead of just spring? Plus, it likes sun.

That's ok Celene, you can call those things anything you want and we will just have to look in the plant files for them if we are interested.

Well, guess everyone has gone to bed, and Bob just announced the same, so guess I will read for a bit and do the same. nite.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 24, 2011
2:06 AM

Post #8650774

Those gesneriads are the only thing I'll fuss with, and honestly, the worst it gets is terrarium culture.

I grew up deep in the heart of East Redneckia here in Ohio. 99 people in my high school class, I was definitely NOT the editor of anything, I was elected "Most Likely to Start a Riot". Don't worry, standards for rioting in East Redneckia are low, it only takes something like dying your hair blue.

I love that malabar spinach. It's okay to eat, better raw or just dropped for 2 seconds in an Asian style soup, but the flowers and shiny foliage are mostly why I grow it. I just found out it reseeded for me here--into about 15 flower pots that were near the trellis on which I grew it.
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 24, 2011
6:03 AM

Post #8651019

I like the malabar spinach. It has more body than regular spinach and takes a little getting used to. I agree that it is pretty with its shiney leaves and bright black berries. It is heat tolerant and perennial here. I happoy because it meets my goal of adding new food plants which can be grown in this area.

I'm up this morning earlywhich is good. Not much energy but not much pain either Think I will get the dishes washed before I'm awake.

hugs, katie

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 24, 2011
6:12 AM

Post #8651033

I try to incorporate food plants into my landscape, too. I have three variegated tomatoes in my flower bed, everyone loves them...oh, those foliage plants are so pretty! Hee hee.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 24, 2011
7:37 AM

Post #8651192

Celene you better check your spelling on the gesneriads. Plantfiles can't find them. I looked them up. Do you have a specific name. Maybe that will do it.

Guess I will try the Malibar this year then. I have never known anyone who had grown or eaten it. I have bought seed 2 different years and not grown it yet. I love spinach and have a wonderful recipe for Spinach Souffle. I wonder how it would be in it. hmm will have to try it.

Well, gotta get busy just in case my niece does show up with unexpected company.

NF2932

NF2932
Winnetka, CA

June 24, 2011
8:28 AM

Post #8651328

Sharon... I LOVE that tree with the purple flowers!! Did you find out what it is? I don't recall ever seeing one before.
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 24, 2011
8:33 AM

Post #8651338

Morning Everyone!, I am trying to catch up on all these posts, but you all have been very chatty.
Katie, I am glad you are back and getting better. Katie, those epi strictum are fabulous! I had another one bloom not long ago, it is a beautiful pink but I don't remember it's name.
Dawn I will keep you in my prayers. I have had the shoulder surgery too, so I do understand.
Sharon, your duranta is beautiful. I think I need to move mine into a sunnier spot. It doesn't bloom. I left it out this past winter and thought I had lost it, but it is coming back, just doesn't want to flower.
I will try to get back online later in the day. I have tons to do and i am leaving early tomorrow to pick up my niece who is coming to spend part of her summer with me. She is 8 years old and I was shocked when she said she wanted to stay 3 months. LOL I asked her Mom also my niece, and she said 3 weeks.
I thought I was going to have a little girl for the summer. LOL It will be fun. I have been whining about not having any kids to play with since my teenager has moved into the parents aren't cool company stage.
I hope you all are having a great day. Linda
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 24, 2011
8:36 AM

Post #8651340

Sharon, your purple flowered tree looks like Duranta erecta, Golden dew drop or sky flower are common names for it. Here is a link:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/60098/

I sure wish mine would bloom.
See ya.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 24, 2011
9:34 AM

Post #8651477

You know how I hate to say that Corey is right, but as far as I can tell there is no prohibition against sex in the garden within the plain meaning of the patent rules.

Of course, what he does in his own back yard no one can say unless they do a fly-over with heat seeking infrared xray vision. Or what ANY of us do in our backyard with F1 plant.

Thanks for the pics, Sharon - looks lush and lovely. With this hand brace I am becoming less fond of the weeds that have sprouted among my cultivated weeds (natives).

Have a special day! I may sit this one out in the a/c.

A.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 24, 2011
9:40 AM

Post #8651488

I got a big box of 2 Earthboxes with all the trappings by mistake yesterday. From the company. The paperwork inside said they were to go to Hawaii. I had ordered 2 red covers for mine and still haven't gotten them, I suppose they went to Hawaii. Crap. This is the second time I have tried to order those and the summer is going to be over before I get any. They are to keep the fertilizer form washing down to the root too fast. It was put in a row in on top.

I called the company yesterday and talked to the woman but she said the people in the warehouse were gone for the day and they would call me. Haven't heard anything. Maybe I will plant them.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 24, 2011
9:53 AM

Post #8651507

Jnette that's tough luck. ;)

Folks in the self-watering container garden forums use shower caps, but I don't suppose that would have the same effect on the fert disbursing...
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 24, 2011
10:04 AM

Post #8651516

Jen - Amanda may know this for sure but I think that once they are sent to you they are yours. You could also call the post office and ask them what the legal thing is. Are the covers like the ones you need? If so, I'd for sure use them.

I got most of my dishes done. That should be all I need to do today but I also put gac seeds to soak and will plant the African tulip tree seeds I got from my friend in Hawaii.

Tony and I have hatched a plan to keep neighbor Tom from messing with our arroyo garden. We have put too much work into it to risk having him dump loads of sand where it will wash down and wreck our work. With what we plan I will allow Tom to do what he has says he's wanted to do but will be able to put him on notice not to mess with me.

later 'gator, kb
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 24, 2011
10:05 AM

Post #8651520

cross-posted

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 24, 2011
10:24 AM

Post #8651551

Nah - Katie I don't pretend to know too much about the law these days. Just easy enough to look stuff up on the web. My mom used to get stuff in the mail and always ended up keeping it. What are they gonna do - make you pay for shipping for their mistake? Nah. It does stink not to get the covers tho' when you need them. Now she needs 4 covers, not 2!!!

evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 24, 2011
11:22 AM

Post #8651715

You may be right on that. Last year Bluestone sent me some plants by mistake. They were supposed to be replacing some that died, but in error, sent me all the ones that lived. They said to keep them, and they would not charge me for their mistake. Eventually they sent one of the replacement plants.

Corey is right, Sharon, as the labels say "asexual propagation prohibited". If any seedlings are present, they are a present to you. If I took cuttings on any of my plants that were forbidden, only I would know about it, as I would not trade or even give any of those plants away. That is, "if"... Now some plants just seem to need dividing and if they are patented, should we not divide them? I know that PP will not be at my door, as no one even knows what I have growing.

Now if I were a farmer and Monsanto spies were all around, now that would be a fearsome battle. Few have won in their lawsuits against them when GM seeds were either regrown and not purchased, or if they blew in from a neighbor's property and grew. Maybe you might know about some of those cases.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 24, 2011
11:26 AM

Post #8651723

Guys I can't read or type, my eyes are so blurry. I had a bad recovery from the shoulder. I a n in a posiion to dig anyhin ou fo who knows how long so Dave beter get his plants fom some ones else unless he wits sill Fall. I'm sleeping love ya.
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 24, 2011
11:36 AM

Post #8651747

Take your time recovering, Dawn. It will benefit you down the road. Get lots of sleep, eat chicken soup and watch bad TV.

hugs, katie

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 24, 2011
11:43 AM

Post #8651767

FEEL BETTER DAWN.
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

June 24, 2011
12:03 PM

Post #8651811

Hey chatties.
Can't catch up with all the posts, but did see that JB was going to toss out a hibiscus. Now what ever happened with that? Blow some of that pollen my way. I love the Cajun Hibiscus especially.

Jnette, I too collect bromeliads. I think I have Bill. baby tears that I could send some to you. I also have bill. nuntans. My favorites are the neo.'s because of their beautiful colors. No bugs too!!!

I use to sew but kind of quit doing that. I oil paint mostly cajun cabins and swamp scenes. And NO I am not a "swamp person". I do plant on rocks...flowers, butterflies, turtles, frogs, whatever.

Glad to see everyone enjoying their summer gardening.

I forgot who was growing the coleus on the scenic screened back porch. Look at DG member, TomTom's posts of coleus in containers. They are just gorgeous.


Would love to chat, but can't wait to get in the yard and "dig in the dirt".

Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 24, 2011
12:18 PM

Post #8651850

Good afternoon:

yes sexual reproduction is complete ly different than asexual reproduction. Asexual reproduction is taking cuttings, division abd tissue culture. sexual reproduction is the crossing of two of the same or similar species that can cross their pollen. There are a lot of variable in sexual reproduction. now do we all remember the boring chapter on genetics in biology??? that applies to plants as well as people.
if two people of the same hair color may not produce a same hair colored offspring. say 2 blondes and they get a sandy blond strayberry blond or even a brunete. all because their family before them had a brunete in the mix.
In the case of sharon's blue berries she is safe to do what ever she want to with the seedlings. I have a silver maple some of you may remember that has a coper red colored leaf with some creamy colors mixed in. its in its 3rd yr. Also my fins echinacea. see the up coming pics. That why its good to watch your gardens. I wish I had been thinking when I was over the landscape at the golf course. I had an oleander that did a witches broom on the tips which I could have propagated and made money on if it proved to be stable. I hope I have bee clearer than mud on this subject. This is how it was explained to me in horticulture 101 and all the plant classes. they wanted to pound the point home "though shalt not propagate with out a liscense"

here is my maple

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 24, 2011
12:23 PM

Post #8651864

and here is a view of the whole tree. It looks like its washed out in the heat. but so far is a columnar maple with little to no branching. I have seen some of the sweet gum tree's that were columnar (or is it columner?) and they look kool. I have been waiting to see if it lastes long enough in my nursery. I might persue the patent later this year.

here is my cone flower called fins

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 24, 2011
1:02 PM

Post #8651941

Linda, you hit that one right on. I kept the Duranta tree in the garage during the winter. It has always been planted in a pot. This last winter I moved it to a very large pot filled with miracle grow potting mix. When it started to put out new branches I cut them back about half way. Every branch I cut back has new growth and a flower. I have it in the muted shade of a mimosa tree on automatic irrigation..

Dave and JB or anyone else, I inquired and the Japanese Blueberry is not patented. I could ship all of you babies when it cools off. I have them coming up, hiding, in many areas. Here they cost a fortune.

Celene, thanks for the heads up on the Nut Grass. It was also identified on Plant Identification. Not a nice plant. Roots have tiny seeds attached and very hard to get rid of. I am going to soak the area today, remove the plant and then wait for the babies to pop up. This grass does not know who it is messing with.

We are in a cool down. Going to be in low 100s or maybe even high 90s. I am going to Costco to get some strawberries. I am also going to get a new Apple Mac Book Pro. But not today. I am going to do some research. See how much I really need for what I do.

I will return later. Sharon

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 24, 2011
1:11 PM

Post #8651960

Dave - I work for Metrolina - last year I "found" a golden yellow varigated zinnia. My manager and I swore we were going make a zillion bucks. The plant expired on my front porch. :D

Compared to other areas of patent and trademark law, plant patents are pretty straightforward. I don't give a hoot who does what with their patented plants. Unless you're a big grower and/or seller I'd imagine it very hard to police.

A.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 24, 2011
2:15 PM

Post #8652095

Sharon,
If it would not harm the tree too much, you would probably be within your rights to put a narrow bed of annuals along that property line, and double-dig it once a year. Or triple-dig.

"Oh, were those YOUR TREE ROOTS trespassing in MY soil?"

But it is kind of a "NJ" thing to do to the tree.

Jnette,
>> You were talking apples and oranges. Seeds vs cuttings.

Totally. That's my point. If we're forbidden to take cuttings or dvidie the root ball, and the plant is forbidden to put out runners, we can still collect seed and hope it's true enough that selecting offspring is practical.


Celene,
>> I may solve all of our problems by clicker training my dogs to plant cuttings of patented plants.

Celene's Criminal-Canine Cutting Clicker Class!

I love it! "Officer, the dog must have done that! BAD DOG!!

Amanada,
>> no prohibition against sex in the garden

As long as it is between consenting cultivars. Is this what they mean by "re-seeds freely"?

Corey


Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 24, 2011
3:42 PM

Post #8652292

ok everyone...it seems there is a virus going around. i don't know how I got in on it but it seems to be inviting people to join TUBEly or some derivative of the name

DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT

open it. it will get your address book and invite everyone and there brother from your address book

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 24, 2011
3:48 PM

Post #8652305

Amanda, I think you are right on with your comments. Since I am a registered nursery I am under closer scrutiny than the normal everyday backyard grower. Just my luck.. That and the fact I am still a Registered Municipal Clerk in the State and my finger prints are on record with the world because of my past employment with the USAF, I have decided not to fight the system, just go with the flow. My luck, I would be caught just thinking about it. Now that is paranoid thinking for sure. Isn't that the first sign of dementia? Look out, here I come. Get the white jacket ready. LOL

Speaking of that, my friend, who is extremely eccentric and is now a ward of the Court/State because she told the psychologist that examined her he was a stupid ass and she knew more about psychology than he ever will, called in tears worried about her horses. Thank God I had just talked to the girl who is caring for them while my friend is in the home, and I was able to bring her up to date. She stopped crying and I had her laughing in no time. They were having a severe storm where she is and she was worried about her one horse being turned out. In fact, we brought the horse in last week and she is just fine. Thank God. I love people who care about animals. No matter how crazy they may be. She is not crazy. She just acts that way for attention I swear. Well, this time she got more attention than she knows how to handle it and is trying to have the Court's ruling reversed. It is not working and they are no doubt going to take her farm to pay the nursing home bill. Pisses me off big time.

Have a good night everyone. Sorry I got off the subject again. I am really upset about her being held in that home but she will not listen and it is for her own good.

Storms and lightening and hail all over the darn state and hopefully it will pass soon. We had the one tornado two days ago and today the warnings are just for straight line winds and storms until 9 P.M. so I must go. Promise to talk plants tomorrow. HUgs. JB

Here is that buzzard watching me walk Barney. I ain't dead yet big bird. AH HA!

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 24, 2011
3:50 PM

Post #8652309

The little black dot on top of the silo is the black buzzard. Sorry it is not bigger but my cell phone is not the best at photos.
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 24, 2011
4:56 PM

Post #8652450

Hello again...golly what a talkative group. I only scanned a few entries and did read Dave's request for a hillside Lily photo. The one I have that we had enlarged and is now framed and goes to the Farmer's Market with hubby each week won't post here. A neighbor took it and I have posted it at other times but when I tried posting it here, I couldn't do it for some odd reason.

Anyway...just sent hubby down to the end of the drive to get basically the same picture that our semi--professional photographer neighbor took in 2009 that was really a gorgeous shot. If hubby is game when he comes back in I will have him take one of another bed we have in the back yard too.

I was out dead heading a few of them last night, and yep many are on their way out now. Probably earlier in the week or even last week would have been the best time for a photo.

Hubby has been fighting Iris borers this week. This is the first time we have had problems with them. He spoke with another Dave's member this morning who suggested he use Grub X. Any other suggestions, even though he already bought the Grub X and will use tomorrow or in the next few days I suppose.

He did find out that something he did last winter will have to be undone now that the borers have attacked. He put wood bark, some quite good size pieces around the Iris bed last winter and in his research this morning found out that the bark is probably serving as host for borer larvae. So, a small bon fire might be in the works or I suppose he could save it to use in the wood stove next winter in his garage.

Don't mind me folks...just thinking out loud here while waiting for him to return with the picture. I think I will scoot along and take my shower, still need to eat dinner too. If I don't get back with the picture tonight, I will post it tomorrow Dave.

Ruby
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 24, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8652460

Hubby finally came back inside. This is a shot coming up our drive way. John promises he will try again tomorrow when the sun is out. It is now 7:30 PM and the other photo is so gorgeous because of the blue sky behind the house.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 24, 2011
5:05 PM

Post #8652461

This is a bed beside our parking spaces.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 24, 2011
5:07 PM

Post #8652465

These are pretty.

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rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 24, 2011
5:10 PM

Post #8652470

He took a few more and I will try to post those tomorrow. Off to shower now.

I wanted to know if anyone here can identify this leaf from a wild or native growing plant in our neighbors yard. John broke this off but will go back tomorrow and take a pic of the plant with white blooms on it and I will try getting an ID then.

Is anyone familiar with this without seeing the bloom? Thanks folks.

Ruby
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 24, 2011
5:19 PM

Post #8652496

JB, is that the friend who turned against her son wasn't it? Same one?

That bird up there reminds me of when I was young, yes JB, I truly was young at one time. Like in grade school, I had to go get the milk every night from the people who had one cow to milk and no children, so we bought the milk. Anyway, I had to go around 6 o'clock at night. There was someone hiding up on that telephone pole. I just knew that was what it was, even though during the day I could see it was a transformer. But I was a child. What is your excuse?

Well, I never heard anything from the Earthbox people today. I called the fellow who bought them for his son. The paperwork with his name and phone number was in with the order. He lives in Huntington Beach, CA. I left a message on his machine and haven't heard anything from him either. But then he may have been at work. Or might think it was a crank call. LOL, I leave a lot of those.

I just might take Katie's advice and use one of the covers. Not red, but black, which I don't like, but I think they say in hotter areas they are white on the reverse side. I couldn't see that. I have been using foil to cover it with but the wind keeps blowing it off.

Just thought about it. The black would be good. I was going to try red because they say it helps tomatoes ripen or something so I was going to try them. But, they still have my money so I will make sure I get the ones I ordered no matter what happens to this order.

Well, we worked outside most of the day today. The temps were 67 so that is perfect for working. Chili when you stop. Since Sharon's tomatoes look so good in her 110 degrees, I am thinking that maybe I will leave the plastic on mine all summer. Sharon does it cook your tomatoes? Do you have soup when you pick them? LOL

BTW, I was just telling Bob I think I will send these EArthboxes back for an exchange of color. They are Terra Cotta, and I would rather have green. LOL

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 24, 2011
5:26 PM

Post #8652506

Nope, can't identify it. LOL Sorry Ruby. You forgot the picture. I thought it was suppose to be of a leaf?

Have hubby take a picture of the whole plant. Besides an upclose of the bloom and leaf.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 24, 2011
5:40 PM

Post #8652533

If I clicker train my dogs to do anything in the garden, it'll be weed and drag around those huge cubes of Promix.

If you want to look for my oddball gesneriads in the Plant Files, here you go: episcia, streptocarpus, african violets (mostly tricolor variegated or weird wasp blooms), with some kohleria, sinningia, nematanthus and aeschynanthus.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 24, 2011
5:48 PM

Post #8652547

Would you train my cat to pounce on slugs?

OR train the slugs to eat only weeds?

Corey
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 24, 2011
6:31 PM

Post #8652644

Now Corey, are you telling me that you never met a slug in Joisey you never liked? LOL Bet you never saw slugs there like you are seeing where you live now.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 24, 2011
7:27 PM

Post #8652766

JB - not funny, but I volunteered for a lot of pro bono animal litigation after I left my real job. Made appearances for Animal Legal Defense Fund, Humane Society, PETA, and a lot of local causes. Once I ended up with 15 or so Pomeranians in my backyard at the condo - in the very small backyard. My BF felt compelled to dismantle his science project in the attic due to the high incidence of law enforcement officers coming and going from the residence. Poor little man, his plants were just starting to bud. :/

Um... heh - no they were NOT my plants.

@ Ruby - lovely photos. Tell Hubby he did a mah-velous job. :)

@ Corey - I like the idea of clicker training. I do animal rescue- we just released a crow. They are very smart animals. The cats and dogs are spoiled and lazy. I just received a baby possum this evening. They have opposable thumbs. Could be very handy in the garden, so to speak.

Have a good night all - I do enjoy the chatter - we are such a diverse and freaky group. :D

A.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 24, 2011
7:46 PM

Post #8652812

That is strange Amanda. Never heard them referred to as a "science project." Wonder if the judge would buy that.

I don't think the cats and dogs are spoiled and lazy Amanda. I just think there are so many of them that there are not enough people to work with them.

You just like the unusual such as the crow and the opossum. Not fair.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 24, 2011
8:56 PM

Post #8652944

Jnette - I have had more rescue cats and dogs come through and stay than I should have in my right mind. Cats eat my plants or use the containers inappropriately.

Dogs tend to knock 'em over.

Hell, even the crow last week landed on the clay pot holding my Norfolk island Pine and proceeded to dig half the dirt out of the pot. What was I going to do, yell at him?! He'd already been shot - had a pellet in his wing. It's "just a plant."

I have had to adjust my plant practices to accommodate the critters too. It does seem that after "they" stay for a while they are less eager to please and more apt to lay around looking cute and self-content. If only they would stay away from cuttings and things rooting on windowsills. Would make plants/gardening a whole lot easier if I didn't have to second-guess placement all the time. Heee.

Do you have critters too?

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 24, 2011
9:34 PM

Post #8652972

Funny Amanda, you make excuses for the crow but call the dogs and cats spoiled and lazy. Use the containers inappropriately???? Maybe nobody taught them the correct way.

How are the animals expected to know how to act with plants?? I am amazed at how you expect them to behave.

Yes, I have a dog that has to be about 17 years old, a Siberian mix that was a stray. The 2 cats I just got about a month ago from Pet Rescue. And of course all the wild ones, humming birds, deer, coyotes, moose, bear, etc.

Th 2 cats are indoor animals. The pet rescue people made sure I understood that and I call them poop machines 'cause I buy a new bag of litter every other day.

But, yes they know how to use a litter box.

The dog is mostly an indoor animal but I do not have a litter box for her.

Yes, we adjust the plants to the animals. After all, the plants are inanimate.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 25, 2011
3:04 AM

Post #8653114

30 years in veterinary medicine, I have no idea how many rescues I've had. Cats, dogs, snakes, lizards, hedgehogs, etc. I wish I'd known about clicker training the whole time, it's such a help. Though I'm sure I won't be clicker training any of my mammalian pets to eat slugs. At first, I thought it was fantastic that my big dog ate slugs, till she vomited about 30 of them on the rug once. I'm fairly unimpressed by most body fluids, but this was spectacularly nasty. She'll still steal a slug or a worm off the sidewalk, but never a whole stomach full. Ugh. Hedgehogs love slugs, it's quite rewarding to watch them be eaten. You've eaten your last hosta, slime ball! hahahaha

I balance out animals vs. plants, by environmental management and some creative training. All of my cats stay inside, and I put up any plants that they're inclined to chew and use other forms of environmental enrichment. Outdoors, after puppyhood, my dogs mostly leave plants alone. My large dog enjoys playing with empty 1 gallon nursery cans, a tractor trailer inner tube, bamboo sticks, and food-dispensing balls, so she mostly leaves the plants alone. I also have a mulched area for the dogs to dig and I hide fun things there, so they confine their digging to the mulch in that area. Every now and again, a pot gets turned over by exuberant large dog play, but it's not that bad.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 25, 2011
3:52 AM

Post #8653144

You are right, of course, Jnette - the dogs' tails tend to be the problem with smaller plants and seedlings I have in trays in inappropriate places like my back porch.

They also trample plants in the yard regardless of size chasing rabbits or squirrels or the occasional rodent variety.

The cats (and sometimes dogs) enjoy eating plants indoors especially in the winter months. I don't have much they can get to anymore indoors. They have trained me well. Without a clicker!

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 25, 2011
5:58 AM

Post #8653294

We have the occasional trampling, but I try to put bamboo teepees over the ones that I'm really concerned about being stomped. My big dog is clumsy and likes to take a walk through the flower beds sometimes.
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 25, 2011
6:04 AM

Post #8653306

OOps Jnette - My Bad!!! I did forget to add the picture. Will post a picture of the leaf and bloom and the whole plant later after he has visited the neighbors house.

Oh gosh...folks after my heart. Animal lovers...Can't beat a gardener who loves animals. Good people all.

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend.

Ruby

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 25, 2011
6:19 AM

Post #8653324

My favorite picture, this is Emerson after a quick run out the back door for the catmint.

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katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 25, 2011
6:30 AM

Post #8653332

He's a beauty. And is set off well by all those dark plants.

I'm up and mobile today. Better than last night when I was driven to extremes (for me) to deal with the pain. Now that my arms are so much better my arthritis pain has decided to double (or triple). I'm still coughing but not as much.

I'm keeping up with the laundry and dirty dishes and cooking for the dogs. Tony is still working in the arroyo. Like most of us, he's happier with a project than with upkeep.

Still too much pain to be interested in much of a nything else.

hugs, katie

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 25, 2011
7:34 AM

Post #8653444

Katie, Honey, I am so sorry you are hurting. I can appreciate how you feel, since that stupid leg trick I pulled, I am not the same and it is taking longer than i had anticipated. I am not a good patient. I may even start to drink gin again if this keeps up. LOL

I have a cat that I call "Fat Cat" . He is so old and fat I have no idea how old, he will not permit me to groom him, he is a feral and will rub against my legs but will not let me groom him. He is getting matted and I hate looking at him. I guess I will have to bite the bullet and just grab him and do some grooming. I would rather deal with a horse than a cat, their scratches get so sore, especially the feral ones from being outside all the time. I really do not like cats. But I feed them every day.

My latest adoption is what we call a groundhog...you may call them hedgehogs. It has made its home under the feed barn, which now has no feed in it because rats ate holes in the floor over the winter and got into the feed. This vacant farm next door is making me crazy. The stray animals that live there are coming over the fence and I do not want to start killing them, so I just pretend I am having fun. I should buy the place but there is more than half of the 6.3 acres that had the top soil removed. I can't afford to replace 4 or more acres of top soil before I start to farm. That is expensive. The weeds are higher than the fence and the township is ignoring my bitching. I guess I need to make a trip to the town hall and show them what bitching really is. There is an ordinance against weeds but the stupid Zoning Officer no doubt does not know that. Of course, the Zoning Officer is also the Chief of Police. Go figure.

I am trying to identify this plant. It was used as a centerpiece at a winery for the tables at a wedding receiption. It looks like a succulent or cactus. Can any of you tell me if you recognize it? I have already posted it on the succ. and cac. forum.

Cory, if you get homesick for Jersey, there is a radio station I am sure you know about, NJ 101.5 RADIO, that has a website where you can see and hear the programs etc. Our new governor is a real hardass and he is just great. He takes nothing for anyone and he also is on a one hour talk show Tues. 6/28 at 7 P.M. on their website you can hear him. What you see is what you get and he is tough as nails. Raised in NJ and was a Federal Attorney for years. He is beating the heck out of the Unions (NJEA) especially the school money. He is cleaning up NJ big time. You may enjoy hearing him. Guaranteed to make yo home sick.

Very nice pictures Ruby. Looks like a lovely place to retire.
The Kitty is adorable, what a look he has on the face.

Must go be creative and do a few floral arrangements. Later. JB



We are spraying frontline today to keep the weeds down especially in the baby tree field. It takes so long to cut the grass between those trees. I have not been cutting for two weeks because of my knee. I enjoy doing it but chiropractor has grounded me. No tractor for another week. LOL

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katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 25, 2011
7:42 AM

Post #8653473

I think the flower is some kind of protea. kb

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 25, 2011
7:52 AM

Post #8653497

Here is a better picture of this unknown beauty.

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AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 25, 2011
8:06 AM

Post #8653524

What an interesting specimen! Though I have no idea what it could possibly be. My knowledge of succulents is limited but growing.

JB I could tell you were a softie, despite all your jabs at . . .well anyone. :D

Here's my latest ward. I have a feeling I am going to have fun with her. I never nursed a possum before but she is too small to release. Don't know what happened to her mum. A friend does "pest removal" and got a call to get this critter out of someone's bedroom this week.

I suppose it's about time I went and got my federal wildlife rehab license, but I continue to work with/under a friend of mine who is so licensed.

Friends, sounds like each of us have some aches and pains. I wish you comfort and calm on this last Saturday in June.

Loveya.
A.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2011
8:42 AM

Post #8653612

Can't say it is cute Amanda. It looks like a rat. And don't kid yourself, JB is just like that new gov they elected. She described him pretty good except that he is a jerk. She didn't say that. She is hiding that fact.

Yeah Corey, guaranteed to make you homesick alright. It WAS your home and you were sick of it. And lucky to be out of it.

Funny how the people that have money, good pension funds, good health care, etc. always want to keep others from having the same. It's always, "I earned mine". BS!! They all got a leg up along the way somewhere if they just admit it. Speaking of course about that wonderful man they have for a gov.

Enough of that!! Before we get kicked off here.

Well, never heard a thing from the Earthbox folks OR the guy who bought them for his son!! Thought surely I would get a call from him. Oh well, Got things to do today and tomorrow, so might plant them Monday. Or maybe I will send them back and tell them I want green ones instead. ROTFLMAO



NF2932

NF2932
Winnetka, CA

June 25, 2011
9:36 AM

Post #8653706

Celene... I am particularly fond of hedgehogs. People give me the 'are you crazy look' when I say that... don't think most of the people I have mentioned that to even know what a hedgehog is. I have never seen one here in California and I have lived in both Northern and Southern California. Are they native to Ohio? My best friend at work retired 2 weeks ago and is moving back to Ohio to be near family. She is single and cannot afford to stay here in California. I will miss her so much. She is a lovely person - work will not be the same without her.

I wanted to ask about the earthboxes. I have never used them and wondered what the consensus was? I have run out of gardening room and have about 4 baby tomato plants that have popped up from compost... I'd like to try the earthboxes, but wonder if it's worth the investment. Any thoughts?

Also... would anyone like some lavender breadseed poppy seeds? I have an abundance from last summer and find that I will have lots more again this year. The are beautiful flowers and grow well here in southern California.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 25, 2011
9:46 AM

Post #8653721

I have identified the flower. It is a Pincushion Protea, Leucospermum cordifolium 'yellow bird' . I love this place. They have so many helpful pieces of information and people who are willing to share. It is not patented as far as I know, so YAHOO...I got three stems of it.

Our Governor is a Republican. But, he is working very hard with the President of the Assembly and he is a Democrat. The two have become good working partners and finally something is getting done. It should not be political but the Unions make it very difficult because they turn down good things and now the local Teachers are rebelling about how the union never asks they just demand and tell them what they can have. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. This is all about trying to get NJ out of the economic mess it is in due to the lack of leadership of spending. Everyone has their hand out and there is no more money. We are broke as a State. So, everyone must give a little.

Did anyone see that commercial about the woodchucks chucking wood? OMG I laugh outloud everytime I see it.
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 25, 2011
9:47 AM

Post #8653722

The Self-cpntained Box Gardens forum has lots of information on Earthboxes, including how to make your own. I have made several and have had mixed results at least in part due to my interrmetent efforts. Most dragon fruit seem to do quite well in them. I have my T R Hovey in one and it seems very happy. kb

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 25, 2011
10:02 AM

Post #8653757

We have porcupines here in the more rural and wooded areas, but the hedgehogs of which I speak are pets, the pygmy ones--they're African. I seem to recall that hedgehogs are not native to North America, but don't quote me on it.

NF2932

NF2932
Winnetka, CA

June 25, 2011
10:57 AM

Post #8653852

Thanks Katie... I'll visit the forum.

Celene... that makes sense. I should have realized they were not native to North America. They really are interesting and beautiful animals. Speaking of that... Emerson is gorgeous! I have wanted an orange kitty all my life and somehow never gotten one. Seems my animals always choose me... someone shows up and just ends up becoming part of the family. Right now I have a calico and a black and white. Both are beautiful in their own way. The calico is 14 years old and the other cat is about 9 or 10.

Last year my husband brought home a little black bunny who literally ran up the driveway of the shop he was working at and sat there looking at him... the bunny must have been a lost pet because it was very domestic... but the area was pretty industrial, so it did seem like a strange thing to have happen. He brought the bunny home as we had inherited a hutch and I been hoping to acquire a bunny. It's strange how all the animals seem to pick us rather than the other way around!!
Oh... and speaking of dogs eating strange things... I inherited a min-pin... he also showed up at the front door and after a couple months of putting up signs and visiting the shelters, we decided he must have picked us so we gave him a home... anyway... he has a fondness for grasshoppers which works out well for me... he is fast as lightening and the little critters can't outhop him... he loves them... kinda like a doggie potato chip!

Amanda... I used to live in a town that had tons of eucalyptus trees. In fact my neighbor had a stand that ran the entire legnth of his home. Every night the possums would come and visit the eucalyptus. Maybe they are distant cousins to koalas?

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 25, 2011
11:37 AM

Post #8653891

NF- indeed they are related - the Virginia Opossom is a marsupial - most of which live in Australia as you know. There is also a possum native to Australia/New Zeland very closely related. Must have happened during the Pleostene era in the Pennsylvania period when the continents merged to form Panagea. I wouldn't be surprised to find them eating eucalyptus! I just saw some for cheap at a garden center nearby. That would be a neat experiment. :D

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2011
11:39 AM

Post #8653893

Do you guys know what a Sugar Glider is? It is a flying squirrel. We used to have a lot of them that would run up to the peak of our roof and fly off into the trees. We had a light out there and they are nocturnal. So, it was fun watching them. But then we had a lot of the trees near the house cut down because it made everything so dark plus a fire hazard so we don't have them doing that any more.

But, one of the pet shops has them and sells the babies at $100 a pop. Quite a bit I would say.

Yes, the pygmy hedgehogs are cute. I have never even held one tho. They look like porcupines. BTW, Celene, or any of you that have the porcupines in your area, do you know how to get the quills out of the dogs if they get them in them? Normally their noses? You cut the ends out so it lets the air out of them, deflates them. And then they will come out easily with pliers.

My daughter has a lot of the earthboxes and plants them every year with vegetables, tomatoes, etc. peas, carrots, lettuce. etc.

You are lucky to have the bunny. I would love to have one or two just for the manure. Best fertilizer.

What is the difference between poppy seeds that this is for cooking and the others are not? I would love to have some seeds.

JB, that is a real pretty flower on that plant. How tall does it get? How long are the stems on the flowers? Do they have a lot of blooms? Must not if they are a succulent huh?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2011
11:45 AM

Post #8653900

We crossposted. That would be interesting. If he didn't like it, you could enjoy the smell anyway. I love it. We don't have them here that I am aware of, but there used to be, and probably still is, a rest stop in North CA that has a lot of those and it smells soooooo good.
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 25, 2011
11:47 AM

Post #8653903

I don't think the protea is a succulent. They are from South Africa, I think, but are now grown in So. Ca. among other places. Probably the longest lasting cut flower. kb

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 25, 2011
7:41 PM

Post #8654696

Jnette, the sugar gliders in the pet trade are marsupials, flying squirrels are placental mammals, and are rodents. However, some flying squirrels get sold as sugar gliders to unsuspecting owners.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2011
9:21 PM

Post #8654873

Celene, that is really interesting. My hairdresser is going to feel very bad if she got taken. I am going to stay out of it. Not going to tell her. lol
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 25, 2011
10:16 PM

Post #8654902

Well we have had 4 days of grandchildren. Sarah Emily Ballard graduated with full scholarship to BYU. She was Valedictorian, one of 12, so she was first on stage, first to speak and first to get her diploma because her last named started with a "B". AND, I heard today there were 702 graduates. Big thrill the first 15 minutes and then waiting for 1 1/2 hours to go through 702 more graduates. All the grandchildren go to public school because their parents did not want to raise elitists. Must want them to grow up as Democrats. Got you Jnette.

Then Jacob the youngest turned 8, had a birthday party and got baptized. My daughter and her family are very staunch Mormons and they get baptized when they are 8.

Graduation BBQ, birthday and 100 degree heat. And then we had 20 mph winds. Like walking out in your landscape with a huge blow dryer blowing in your face.

I took a few photos for Dave today. Day lilies he might want a start. I have to dig all of them in this area because of Nut Grass. I will have some to send but no many because they are two years old. I also have photos of the LA iris pods. I am going to dig irises and LA irises this next week.

Tomorrow I am going to do my US taxes. My accountant called with a Get It Going message. I do not owe them any money so I did not see any big hurry but she does so I am going to do it tomorrow.

My doctor's appointment with the ear specialist has been moved to Monday early am.

Talk to you all tomorrow afternoon. Sharon.

I will post photos tomorrow. I am crashing and going to bed. Way past my bed time.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 26, 2011
2:14 AM

Post #8655066

Jnette, let their vet tell them if they got taken. Normally, the pet store will do nothing but shrug their shoulders and say they have no way of knowing what animal was actually sold to the client.

Gardening today...yesterday I went to a wedding.
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

June 26, 2011
6:40 AM

Post #8655286

Amanda, google opposums. I think they may carry diseases and may not be good as a pet. I think they have teeth and that can hurt.

Take it from me, opposums are unwanted here. They dig and eat the roots of our grass.

Just be careful.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 26, 2011
6:55 AM

Post #8655310

Katie, you are right on the button with the Protea. Good girl. Here is what DG says about them.

They are listed in the Category of Shrubs. They get 4 to 6 feet tall and and not hardy in zones lower than 9b, they like full sun and bloom in mid summer, late summer and early fall. It attracts bees, butterflies . It is drought tolerant and suitable for xeriscaping.(not sure what that is)? There are many colors and they are good for cutting.

Their leaves and stems look like cactus. I wonder if the Protea are some way related to succulents or cactus? Hmmmmm?

My "incompetent" friend and I used to breed anything we thought we could make a buck on. Honestly we had a great time and we had more fun than many of our friends who had more fun with people. We preferred animals because they were not as two faced and nasty. LOL
We had miniature horses, dogs, peacocks, I did the tropical birds, donkeys, steers, chickens, and we ran out of things when we heard about the Sugar Gliders. We researched them for weeks and finally decided against it because of their sleeping habits and they were not really "playmate" type pets according to what we found out. We also have flying squirrels in NJ and the sugar gliders are nothing like the flying squirrels. Not the ones here in the East. Celene, I am so glad you made that comment because had I said it first, Jen would tell me I am wrong. She likes to make me look wrong because I have a Republican Governor. He He He is really cute and chubby too.
He is going to be on Meet The Press this morning. Enjoy if you are out of bed, which I doubt you will be. I can not image anyone getting sold a squirrel for a suger glider. ROFL. They bring a couple hundred dollars here too.
Will check in later. It is a beautiful day here but it did not rain enough, so I am out to water again. Have a wonderful day and say a prayer for those poor souls in ND and SD who are getting flooded. These natural disasters are getting more all the time and really make me wonder if this isn't part of the end of the world coming little by little.

see you later

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 26, 2011
7:02 AM

Post #8655320

I have to agree about the opossums. They are not exactly the wanted critter here either. They are dirty little critters and some people who are really hungry eat them, but not me.
Groundhogs eat only greens and they have big teeth too. If they are rabid none of them are safe to have around. I like cuddly animals. No snakes, reptiles of any kind, spiders, none of those things do anything for me except give me goose bumps to think about them. LOL Gheeze I hate snakes big time.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 26, 2011
8:33 AM

Post #8655454

You're right Sharon, they say if you want to live like a Rep. then vote Dem. LOL

And yes, JB, I just watched your phony jerk of a Gov. He really loves himself doesn't he.

Sorry Dave, but they started it. Just read back the last 3 or 4 posts. You betcha!! : 0)

Good morning everybody, it is a beautiful day out there. Bright sunny and deep blue skies. Gotta go to Spokane today to buy some stain for the deck. Bob has got to get a coat or 2 on it so I can put my plants back.

Well, got to take a shower and get moving. ttyl

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 26, 2011
8:41 AM

Post #8655466

Thanks for your concerns about the opossum. They are not dirty little creatures. They are nature's sanitation engineers!

They have opposable thumbs and tiny little swirly fingerprints just like we do.

I do not intend to keep it as a pet. We are involved in all sorts of animal rescue and have lots of experience with possums. They do have teeth and bare them to scare away predators and people. They have a fascinating physiological ability to "play dead" for 4 hours or more - their body functions all change to mimic death - stuff ooozes out of their mouth - very cool! :D

I am aware that folks eat them. I am not one of them.

I know this makes me sound crazy, and I admit that. Much as we can't prevent squirrels or voles or rats or any other critter respect our manicured lawns or flower beds, the possum is just another critter passing through.

Have a great day peeps. :)

A.
rubyw
Crozet, VA

June 26, 2011
9:44 AM

Post #8655547

Lots more informative reading this morning. I am learning a lot from this thread. Have a few comments though everyone's posts were thought provoking.

Just wanted to say I love the Kitty pic Celene. So cute.

Sorry to hear that Katie is experiencing so much pain currently. Some years back I suffered with chronic pain syndrome and thankfully it turned itself around after some years of pure torture which many times had me thinking I couldn't tolerate it one minute longer. Blessed Be...it finally lifted and I am so glad and grateful for pain free days. My heart hurts for those who have to live with it. Hope you feel better soon.

NF, I love your take on the animals finding you. When I think about it, it seems to be the same with us too. All four of our dogs over the years have been rescues. We are now down to two black boys who don't have the personalities of the two that have left us, but they are great company and also entertaining for old folks such as ourselves. I walk with a cane when in the yard, but both of these guys get so very excited whenever I go to the yard with them. I sometimes wish I could run and play with them. One evening last week my grand children were here and the livliest of the two dogs had a great time running around with my four year old grand daughter Emily. That did my heart good to see them both having so much fun playing together.

Sharon - I read with interest about your fight with nut grass. What is your plan of attack. Hubby thought he had gotten rid of it last winter when he dug it up but dang if it didn't begin sprouting again this year. It sure ruins the look of a beautiful flower bed. Any good ideas from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

Here is wishing everyone a great Sunday. Yep, looks like a beautiful day here in Virginia too.

Ruby



Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 26, 2011
6:08 PM

Post #8656458

Ruby and Sharon, won't Roundup get it? Like wearing a rubber glove and take a rag soaked and rung out and wipe each piece? It doesn't take much to get down to the roots.

Sorry, I don't know what Nut grass is. Guess we all have our own weeds.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

June 26, 2011
6:15 PM

Post #8656467

Amanda, if it makes you feel better, I like opossums as well. Not as a pet, but because they're interesting. The opposable "thumb" is on the hind food, which makes it even more interesting, at least to me.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 27, 2011
6:15 AM

Post #8657253

Morning all you sweet people! The sun is shining in NJ and the temp is mid 80s and humidity high, but, it is a pretty day and I am going to try not to loose my temper today. That could be difficult because I must go to the Joint Base and get my vehicles re registered because I switched plates and therefore I need to switch permits. Nothing is easy especially now with three wars and all the active duty people who must get in line first. It just takes longer. Many of the employees are Federal civilian employees and have attitudes. That is where it makes my hair stand on end. If you do not hear from me in a few hours, you know I am locked up.

I am sending a picture of the tomato field across the street. Tomatoes as far as you can see and stakes for each plant. Beautiful sight on a morning like this. All they do is spray and fertilize them. I hope they get good money for their crops because they sure do spend the time. He has severak crews of about 20 men each working in his fields. He is also the Mayor of the Township I live in. Nice guy and I can remember when he had no money and borrowed to feed his family. Also, he is waiting to go to trial for Tax Fraud now because he has neglected to pay his Federal Taxes. LOL Only in NJ LOL.

Must get moving. JB

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 27, 2011
8:56 AM

Post #8657539

Now we know where the picture of the tomatoes came from. : 0)

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 27, 2011
10:43 AM

Post #8657725

Oh my, you should see my tomatoes. My SIL is a nurseryman by trade and he has this thing about trimming bushes. He makes me crazy because he trims when he feels like it and not when it is time. He cut all the buds off the roses along with the deadheads. The other day he was trimming and he decided to trim the tomato bushes. So much for early tomatoes at this farm. LOL But, the place looks well kept and I love him.

I went to the Joint Base today with my registration in hand to get my auto decal switched on the Jeep. First of all, they no longer are using decals, so that was a trip for nothing.
In order to get on base all you have to do is have your Military ID. So, much for that.

When I got home I looked at my registration because I was going to put it away and God Forbid, I noticed I had the wrong car with the wrong tags. They re-registered the truck and sent me the registration, I never looked at which auto was on the registration , I looked at the license tag no. and assumed it was the jeep. Now I have mailed back my tags for the jeep, put the truck tags on the jeep since the are my Marine Corp Special plates, and have been driving all around with no registration. LOL. Can you believe that. I called Motor Vehicles Special Plate dept. and told her what happened and she said drive with both registrations and if anyone stops me have them call her. LOL The new registration is in the mail, the one I received was the regular truck renewal which I had sent in weeks ago before I knew I was going to sell it. What a morning.

Washed the Barn Swallow Poop of the Jeep and the lawn mower , now I must wash the golf cart and then they can start all over again. I hate wild bird poop. It is like concrete when you do not get it off fresh. Those little buggers do a lot of copulating and crapping.
They are on their second clutches already and it is only June. Gee Whiz. Sex in the barn, on the roof, in flight...they are worse than rabbits.

I am weary and think I will rest a short time before I get out and start all over again.
Have a good day everyone.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 27, 2011
10:58 AM

Post #8657751

JB - it does sound like an uphill battle all around. Hope you got in a siesta. :)

A.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 27, 2011
1:44 PM

Post #8658026

Well, at least you had tomatoes. Even if they got cut off before ready. It has been so cold here that the bees are still sleeping. I have a lot of blossoms, but only one little tomato. Must have been an ant.

I do poke my finger in all the blossoms, but so far nothing.

Yeah right. Just call that woman huh? Where have I heard that before? JB who??? Never heard of her.

Wish the bees would take lessons from your barn swallows. Maybe there would be more of them. Don't hardly see any more.

I bought a power washer yesterday so Bob is going crazy washing everything in sight. Now he is waiting for the deck to dry so he can put a coat of stain on it. He has to do it between rain days. Tomorrow is one of those. From the looks of the sky it may be before that.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 27, 2011
8:32 PM

Post #8658913

Sharon, where are you?

Dawn, how are you doing? Still pretty sore huh? Are you doing PT? That would hurt a lot but help. You have to remember that it is working the muscles so they will work again and not be sore.

Linda, got a little helper huh?

Dave, I think it is time to move this. We have a lot of stuff on here.

Lee, I know where you are. Helping your friend that is flooded. How are you coming with all that work. You be careful.

Evelyn, we finally warmed up. It was really in the upper 70s today. Suppose to be in the 80s next week.

Katie, how are you doing? The rest of you, I have run out of steam. Hope everyone is doing good.
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 27, 2011
8:48 PM

Post #8658966

Hi Everyone, I'm still coughing some but after sleeping yesterday afternoon and agin this morning after Tony got here and drinking lots of wtaer with extra vitamin C I think I am getting better. It's too hot and humid to do much but it's hard having a cold, too. Luckily, the dogs are all good models for taking it easy. We haven't heard from Jon so Scout may be permanent. She's very sweet and all the dogs are getting along quite well which is the only concern I had about her joining the pack.

I've been studying my tissue culture material. We have a lot of other stuff to catch up with before I do much but I may try a rosemarry cutting soon.

With what energy I have I've been sorting out sewing materials to give to Tony's family. They all sew and I have enough for several lifetimes.

It's time for bed. I'll chek in with you all tomorrow.

hugs, katie

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 28, 2011
5:45 AM

Post #8659435

Quick check in to say Good Morning. I am alive and well and kicking. A bit tired with Mr. Barney having a restless night, but otherwise all is well.

They trimmed some of the Christmas trees yesterday. Now he has everything trimmed around the entire property. Looks great. Grass is all cut and there are very few flowers blooming. They are all finished. We have nothing but greens, hosta kind of stuff. Our Black eyed susans will be coming along soon.

In the Greenhouse it is just the most wonderful sight and smell. The big Jasmine is in full bloom and the aroma is breathtaking. I sit in there and just take deep breaths. The Aimees have aphids again inside. I noticed that this morning. I did not look at the ones outside. They are blooming and as much as I want to cut off the blooms, I want them to stay on this year and reproduce and mature. Those twelve 2 year old plants look wonderful. By next Easter I should have them ready to go to the Market. That is if I can keep them alive over the winter. LOL

Off to water the birds and clean up the floors. See you all later. JB
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 28, 2011
12:23 PM

Post #8660221

I am feeling almost human again. Was able to drive to town and get groceries for the first time since I got home. Had a nice visit with my friend Saul who owns the grocery store.

In garden news, my hwite bouganvilla is blooming and it's beautiful. My blueberries are not doing well. One is dead; I cut the other two way back.

Not much news. It's still hot and humid here and probably will be until mid-October.

hugs, katie

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 28, 2011
2:59 PM

Post #8660522


JB:

>> Cory, if you get homesick for Jersey, there is a radio station I am sure you know about, NJ 101.5 RADIO, that has a website where you can see and hear the programs etc.

The NJ radio show that I miss is "Opie and Anthony". To anyone who knows what they were, or are, apologies in advance! They were rude EVEN FOR NJ !!!

>> Our new governor is ... is beating the heck out of the Unions (NJEA) especially the school money. He is cleaning up NJ big time.

I guess one can be FOR education but DOWN on certain unions. I used to be down on unions, before working for a living. Then I got to know management a little. Frying pan, fire.

Actually, education is one of the things I DO consider a worthwhile part of government. My sister teaches Jr High School English in Connecticut. She moved from one community where the PTA meetings fielded questions like "why do my kids have to go to High School when they could be earning money as plumber's assistants". That region also has very widespread poverty and crime, for some reason. All the industry moved out decades ago.

Now she works in a rich Yuppie town where they worry about WHICH colleges their kids will get into.

Does ignorance cause poverty, or is it just that when money is tight, we forget that jobs go wherever there's an educated work force?

Corey

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 28, 2011
3:04 PM

Post #8660530

Smart Crows:

Oh, yeah!

I read about a bunch of people trying to outwit flocks of crows that were decimating their fields.

They built a blind where a guy with a shotgun could hide until the crows forgot he was there. They never forgot.

So TWO guys went in, and one left. The crows knew one was still there.

Eventually they found that if 6 guys went in, and five left, the crows knew the difference between 5 and 6.

But 7 in and 6 out confused the birds, and they eventually came back, and the remaining guy got a shot at them.

But those birds could COUNT to six!

Clearly, those crows had a pretty good school system, for birds.

Corey

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 28, 2011
4:19 PM

Post #8660670

OMG Opie and Anthony, it has been a long time since I heard of them. The Jersey Boys, were just fired from 101.5. Have no idea what happened but they are history. They did not renew their contracts for some reason.
Christie is talking on 101.5 as we speak. Want to go listen. Later. GOod Night. JB
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 28, 2011
4:26 PM

Post #8660694

Howdy:

we are moving we are here now

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1193154/

I am sorry for being away for so long. I had too much to ship and was snowed under the last 2 days. we shipped over 300 plants and about 10 different orders. I will try to catch back up to make sure I don't miss any questions or I need to reply.
sorry everyone. its been kind of funny watchin 2 cripples tryin to box up so much stuff. lol...

The pic is of one of my crosses i am starting to see some great new flowers from my crosses.

have a great evening
Dave

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RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 28, 2011
4:26 PM

Post #8660695

>> just fired from 101.5.

Hmm, vulgarity too extreme, crass and devient even for NJ!
They were great.

Many an hour spent stuck in traffic was mitigated by my amazed guffaws: "can they DO that???"

Remember the "Teen Voyeur Bus" in NYC? Crowds materializing on street corners, fans reporting the prgress by cell-phone, spontaneous escorts from cheering motorcycle cops ... actually LEGAL, no one underage, just unusual attire for a city street ... then THEIR route coincided with the route of a planned Presidential motorcade later that same day ... BOOM, everyone in jail for 36 hours of "processing".

The Secrete Service (and mayor) had no sense of humor! That mayor cleaned it RIGHT up.
Of course, that was NYC, and not NJ. "The City" had pretensions of civilization.

Corey
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 28, 2011
4:40 PM

Post #8660720

Isn't it funny how it feels when you put the shoe on the other foot Corey? i.e. Union vs non-union? My nephew swears he is a staunch Rep. but is thrilled to have a union job. First one he has had and loves it.

I have a corn (no Corey, not corny) story to tell you about the crows but can't remember the end of it and will have to wait until Bob gets home to ask him. It is a true one. And yes, they are so smart. When we first moved over here we thought there were so many crows but discovered the real use for them was cleaning up the roadkill so decided they weren't so bad. One day tho, we came upon a dead deer in the road and a crow, a vulture and an eagle all feasting. When we drove right up to them and honked the horn, they all left except one. Which one do you think it was? The eagle. It refused to move. Had to drive around it into the other lane.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 28, 2011
4:44 PM

Post #8660731

We crossposted Corey.

Was the Mayor at the time of "The City" guiliani? I understand he was pretty rigid.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 28, 2011
5:20 PM

Post #8660800

Ok Corey, Crows. We used to buy corn form a lady a few blocks away from where we lived in Seattle. She told us that her husband shot a crow one day when they were planting the corn seed
cause the crow was eating the seed as they planted it.

The crows came form far and wide for a funeral, and then held a wake for 3 weeks in her corn field.

They are a very social bird. When one finds a kill they don't just go eat it. They call all the rest to the party.

Dave, your crosses are beautiful. It must be very exciting as they open to see what they are going to be. Are you naming them as they open?
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

June 28, 2011
5:59 PM

Post #8660876

Hi Everyone,
Yes, I have a little helper and she is a ball of energy! it has been a long time since i have had a little one around. LOL She is about to wear me out.

Dave, That daylily is beautiful.

JB, Jnette, Evelyn, Sharon, Corey, Dawn and everyone, I will keep trying to lurk, but It may be a couple of weeks before I get caught up.

I just wanted to say hi.

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 28, 2011
6:02 PM

Post #8660887

>> Was the Mayor at the time of "The City" guiliani? I understand he was pretty rigid.

Yeah. Before 9-11, many people called him a Fascist - in a bad way. After 9-11, most people shrugged and said: "Yeah, but he's OUR Fascist."

What was annoying about the Teen Voyeur Bus was that nothing about it was illegal - for once O&A got that right. And everyone was having a good time, including beat cops and motorcycle cops. But when they crossed the route the presidential motorcade would follow HOURS later, someone called someone and Big G sent out police officials and SS guys with "nosensayuma" .

Our Fascist threw 19-year-old girls and th bus driver into city kockups for about 10 minutes less than the legal maximum (36 hours, I think) to "process" them when there was never any question in anyone's mind that they COULD ever be charged with anything. Just "rousting" them - the "law-and-order" mayor breaking the law.

Oh, well. Nosensayuma.

Corey

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 28, 2011
6:12 PM

Post #8660910

Hi, Ibartoo! I know what you mean about it taking a week to catch up on the thread. Warning: it will be TWICE as long a week from now!

>> a crow, a vulture and an eagle all feasting.

This sounds like a three part joke. "A priest, a rabbi, and a clone walk into this bar ..."

>> When we drove right up to them and honked the horn, they all left except one. Which one do you think it was? The eagle. It refused to move. Had to drive around it into the other lane.

The only eagle I ever met was a chick, or cub, or whatever you call a juvenile eagle. It was hanging out around a fish market on the Quinnipiac river in Westport, CT ... I guess they threw fish scraps back into the river.

Sometimes it would hang out under a bridge, out of sight, until other birds like seagulls thought that THEY might get a chance to grab something to eat. Then it would heavily heave itself into the air and fly a lazy loop around the river and back to its perch ... while everything else in the air panicked and imitated fragments flying away from an explosion.

Big bully! It knew that it was The Boss.

The newspaper claimed it was a young Bald Eagle, away from its normal range. It was a local celebrity for a week or so, then moved on.

Corey
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

June 28, 2011
6:46 PM

Post #8660983

Hello to all, back from I am back from Roundup, muddy, tired, and feeling great. I took a bunch of food, and clothing up. Since I have lost the weight I had lots of blouses and things. My friend couldn't wear any of them, but another lady could so she took them. What a mess. We worked lots, got a little ways with the mess, but lots still to do, Planting will wait since there isn't any place to put things in the mud. will return again in a week or so, maybe then. It is sooooo sad,

Corey, You probably don't know, but my daughter lives in Shoreline. Accross from the golf course on Greenwood AveN.
Glad everyone else is here and in realitive good health,.

JB, glad you are your same ol' self.

To all the rest, I am still here.
ttyal, Lee

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

June 28, 2011
7:07 PM

Post #8661048

Wow! Lots of chatter. :)

@ Corey - does ignorance cause poverty? That's way too complex a question and I think it has a lot more to do with the way the workforce has changed over time and industry has regionalized and/or shipped overseas. Just read this today:

http://blogs.forbes.com/jennagoudreau/2011/06/22/disappearing-middle-class-jobs/

@ Jnette: did i tell you I just released a rescued crow that had been shot with a pellet gun? I started feeding the crows in my urban backyard in favor of the hawks that feed on my birds and other critters. The crow IS a very smart bird and social too, yes. They share very nicely with eachother. They are very kind to their babies. They can remember people and whether they are naughty or nice.

Check this out:

http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2011/05/us_military_spy_crows_binladen.php

Happy reading and to all a goodnight. :)

A.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

June 28, 2011
7:21 PM

Post #8661106

I have been away from my desk, but I did notice that Dave had sent us on a new thread. (I must not use the computer too much.)

See y'all in a few days or so.

Dawn ~ I feel your pain, as I have been there... Did you have arthroscopic or a rotator cuff replacement? (You are in my prayers)

Actually all of you are as we all seem to have our time with pain...TTYL

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 29, 2011
12:16 PM

Post #8662314

I'm glad to hear that crows are that smart. I was afraid that, we humans made ourselves extinct, squirrels would take over, and I don't like those tree rats!

I wonder if there's any way to train crows to eat slugs?

I just hope that no one figures out a way to let crows take our remaining jobs.

Corey


RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

June 29, 2011
12:17 PM

Post #8662317

Shoreline WA? That only around 10 miles from me!

Corey
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

June 29, 2011
1:11 PM

Post #8662414

Everyone we ahve mooved,

no i am not naming them as they open I am lucky to get a tag on them with color marked. I have felt like a 3 legged cat in a cat box contest...I want to name a few of them though. the lavender/purple one should be name grape kool-aid. I think I will try to get it registered... just takes time and money and both are in short supply.

we are here now. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1193154/

Please check in when you come over...red rover ... red rover red rover can JB come over? lol

sorry everone feeling a bit loopy and want to make the woody the wood pecker sounds. Time to lay down and see if the pain will ease up a bit. we had storms roll through yesterday am and again today. yipee no watering...

I think I might name this one raspberry lemonlime pie or something like it. any suggestions????

I will be on tomorrow as I hope to be in a better place.
Dave

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katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 29, 2011
1:24 PM

Post #8662442

That flower is Sunny Grape.

kb
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

June 29, 2011
6:15 PM

Post #8662936

Wowie you guys. I could not possibly catch up to comment on all. I am doing fine. I had a tendon repair in my rotator cuff and a muscle partially torn and a butt load of scar tissue (adhesive capsulitis) torn loose.

I have a chair that cranks my arm around to try to prevent a reoccurrance of the scar tissue so no PT yet, still have sutures in.

I think Hedgehogs are adorable. Would like one, but I don't see them in this state, may be on the banned list like ferrots and Gerbils are here. I found a gopher once in a trap that looked just like a Guinne pig, it was blonde. Ate a million roses of mine. grrr!

I would like some of those poppy seeds who ever offered them. Sorry I read too much and several new people here now or returnees.

Dawn
katiebear
mulege
Mexico

June 29, 2011
6:18 PM

Post #8662940

Welcome back, Dawn. Recover well. kb
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

June 29, 2011
6:25 PM

Post #8662945

Dawn, I hate to tell you this because I am sure it took you a lot of pain to write it, but Dave moved us. Good to see you back tho. If it is ok with you I will move you to the new one????

It is here:http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1193154/

I'm going to move you. You can slap me if you don't want me to. Sorry in advance if you don't.

Jeanette

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