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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2011
2:10 PM

Post #8674241

Hello folks,

I started planting a few crinum bulbs here in north Georgia. What success have others had?

Lets talk crinum in Georgia here.

Here's a picture of a crinum scabrum taken last week. One of the first to flower for me. I'm told that crinum may not bloom until the 2nd year when transplanted, even mature bulbs.

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GAgirl1066
Blackshear, GA

July 6, 2011
3:54 AM

Post #8675345

Very pretty Randy. I am in south GA, but have several crinums. I love them! We have just bought some land and are building a house. We have a 1/2 mile road up tothe house with a pasture on one side. I am thinking of planting crinums along the road.

I rescued these at the dump last year...

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GAgirl1066
Blackshear, GA

July 6, 2011
3:55 AM

Post #8675347

And this is my absolute favorite...

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ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

July 6, 2011
1:46 PM

Post #8676543

Paula, your rescue looks like a Crinum americanum. If so, you will have many, many plants for your new home by next year. They multiply like bunnies.

My favorite is C. 'Mrs. James Hendry', the flowers are not that outstanding but the scent is fabulous.

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ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

July 6, 2011
1:48 PM

Post #8676546

C. 'Bradley' is pretty also. Your Queen Emma is awesome, I have never seen such a large one in a container.

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GAgirl1066
Blackshear, GA

July 6, 2011
3:42 PM

Post #8676744

Love them both! Very pretty!! I have got to repot the QE and get some of those babies off. It has outgrown that pot.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 6, 2011
5:33 PM

Post #8676921

Very nice plants.

I have a Mrs. James Hendry which was planted this year, its not one showing signs of blooming this year.

Also have a Queen Emma in the ground here in Dahlonega. I'm told won't grow, but it was a large one and I planted it deep, so, maybe?

I've planted about a dozen Ellen Bosanquet. One of the last bulbs I planted, no more than a month ago is starting to bloom. This should look better in another day or two.

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Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 6, 2011
5:48 PM

Post #8676952

Randy, 'Queen Emma' is very much tropical. I "test planted" one in my garden, and that was the last I saw it. Luckily I've kept others in container, last year I was rewarded with beautiful blooms. 'E. Bosanquet' is a gorgeous fuschia pink. I've got a couple that bloomed earlier this spring.
flowerchik1
Guyton, GA
(Zone 8b)

July 7, 2011
4:47 AM

Post #8677660

I had several transplants that I put in fall of last year. They were all mature. One had beautiful blooms last week, one has not bloomed or showed any signs of blooming(but looks really healthy), one is barely hanging on(dog keeps digging it up) and the last one that was really looking good was run over by the lawn mower by my son ugghhhh! Oh well the one that bloomed and my established clump from two years ago were great!
sterhill
Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2011
6:03 AM

Post #8681653

what kind is this? I got this huge bulb at the RU in Jonesboro... 2006 maybe?

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Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2011
6:18 AM

Post #8681669

That's such a fine spicemen sterhill. It looks like Ellen Bosanquet to me. Needs expert advice, I'm not.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2011
6:23 AM

Post #8681678

sterhill wrote:what kind is this? I got this huge bulb at the RU in Jonesboro... 2006 maybe?



It looks a lot like Ellen Bosanquet. But there are several crinum that look similar.

here's my 1st blooming Ellen B. again, 2 days later than the above pic. It has 11 buds on the umbel, so hasn't fully opened yet.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2011
6:32 AM

Post #8681694

I've posted the list of crinum I've planted in my blog. http://davesgarden.com/tools/blog/index.php?tabid=15756

One of the best references with pictures of crinum online is at Plant Delights Nursery with 253 pictures of various crinum.

http://gallery.plantdelights.com/Crinum-Lilies

I received a DVD from Bulbs N More which I've loaded to my computer, it has a detailed description of many crinum and hundreds of pictures.

http://stores.ebay.com/Bulbs-N-More-Crinum-Specialists?_trksid=p4340.l2563



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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2011
6:38 AM

Post #8681702

Lily_love wrote:Randy, 'Queen Emma' is very much tropical. I "test planted" one in my garden, and that was the last I saw it. Luckily I've kept others in container, last year I was rewarded with beautiful blooms.


I'm told that there are 2 types of Queen Emma. The Hawaiian type which is more tropical and the type I have which I believe came from Mexico. But a crinum expert said the hardier variety should be ok in zone 8. He did say if I manage to grow one in Dahlonega (7a) it would need to be a large one and planted deep and well mulched in the winter. So, I decided to give it a shot.



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Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2011
6:56 AM

Post #8681741

Randy, please keep me posted on the result of your experiment. Thanks.
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

July 9, 2011
3:33 PM

Post #8682561

I would love to hear your results also. I brought seeds back from FL years ago and grew some impressinve Queen Emmas but this past winter did them all in. In a normal year I am in a zone 9a.

This site has some excellent info and pictures of crinums. Marcelle is THE crinum guru.
http://marcellescrinums.com/

Jenks Farmer has some awesome crinums also but his are pricey.
http://www.jenksfarmer.com/


RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2011
4:50 PM

Post #8682671

ardesia wrote:I would love to hear your results also. I brought seeds back from FL years ago and grew some impressinve Queen Emmas but this past winter did them all in. In a normal year I am in a zone 9a.

This site has some excellent info and pictures of crinums. Marcelle is THE crinum guru.
http://marcellescrinums.com/

Jenks Farmer has some awesome crinums also but his are pricey.
http://www.jenksfarmer.com/




I just bought 2 Giant sized Cecil Houdyshel crinums from Jenks Farmer. They are on sale now as well as some other crinums. The price I paid for his giants was about what I'd pay for a large or maybe jumbo somewhere else. So it pays to look around as prices do vary. Some crinum sellers don't mention anything about bulb size or roots. Some are just dried bulbs, or ones hydroponic grown.

yes, Marcelle is the Queen of crinum. I should have included her web page in my post.

Getting good information about bloom times, and mature plant sizes and growing conditions is difficult. While I think that Plant Delights has similar growing conditions to what I have (zone 7) the data that Bulbs N More provides in his web pages and on his DVD is the best (albeit zone 9 Florida).


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ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

July 10, 2011
5:26 AM

Post #8683320

OK, I am in trouble now, I will have to check out Nestor White, LOL I have been slowly converting my garden to as close to a truly no work garden as possible. Crinums when appropriatly planted need little care and that is where I am aiming. I once had an Ellen Bosenquet that was planted too close to the driveway and I gave it to a friend, it just grew too large and was tearing up the pavement. Now I am better at giving them the room they need and letting them go to town.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 10, 2011
6:50 AM

Post #8683538

Send Bulbs N More an email and ask for his DVD. Or if you buy something from him off ebay, he will send you one.

Some of Bulbs N More ebay prices are discounted, some are the same as his fixed list prices. There are more crinum on his list than he has on ebay. Although he says that sometimes he puts things on ebay that aren't on his list. His list included on the DVD was updated this spring, so probably is all inclusive at this point.

I have only a few sunny spots for crinum, and have a lot of shaded areas. So I'm going to be experimenting with crinum that like shade or partial shade. I planted 2 pink crinum moorei from Plant Delights and 2 white moorei from EdensBlooms.com in full shade. Some of the hybrids say they are OK in partial shade or filtered sunlight, so am giving some a try in those conditions.

I bought 2 XL size Ellen Bosanquets from ebay seller bdbd601 who is still selling them. Per the picture of her garden posted on ebay, she has a lot of Ellens. Anyway, one of them is the one I posted pictures of in my first post, the second one, planted the same day, less than 2 months ago now has up TWO scapes.



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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 14, 2011
9:36 AM

Post #8691917

The above Crinum Ellen Bosanquet is now in bloom. Beautiful with two scapes up, one slightly taller than the other.

I also have a Crinum Gowenii with a scape up that should bloom for me next week.

So keep those crinum pictures coming.

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Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 14, 2011
10:14 AM

Post #8691987

By far C. 'Ellen Bosanquet' is my most cherrished. She is just bright and cheerful when in blooms.
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 14, 2011
2:39 PM

Post #8692411

All are beautiful.

Larkie

Larkie
Camilla, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
7:57 PM

Post #8696711

I have a white (unknown name), very light blush pink (unknown) and the dark pink, Ellen Bosanquet..It is one of my favorites... They multiply like wildfire here in SW GA.. Some of the bulbs are larger than softballs..

Larkie
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 17, 2011
6:02 AM

Post #8697247

Larkie wrote:I have a white (unknown name), very light blush pink (unknown) and the dark pink, Ellen Bosanquet..It is one of my favorites... They multiply like wildfire here in SW GA.. Some of the bulbs are larger than softballs..

Larkie


Nice. The white with pink type crinum is generally called a Milk & Wine. There are actually several types of crinum that fall into this general category. Crinum Herbertii is the most common as it grows well in the South and has beautiful blooms. Other Milk & Wines can be Bulbispermum, Gowenii, Scabrum, and other less common ones.

Post some pictures if you get a chance?

RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2011
5:35 PM

Post #8702515

I've had a Milk & Wine bloom for me. This is a Gowenii Hoboken, probably named after Hoboken, GA.

This is one of the crinum obtained from Bulbs N More this year.

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GAgirl1066
Blackshear, GA

July 20, 2011
4:41 AM

Post #8703086

Hoboken is only 10 minutes from me...
EFGeorgia1
Lizella, GA
(Zone 8a)

October 6, 2011
7:01 PM

Post #8838935

Here is one I brought up from Florida many years ago. I think it needs more sun.

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Larkie

Larkie
Camilla, GA
(Zone 8a)

October 6, 2011
7:21 PM

Post #8838951

I have this one and it is so delicate and beautiful.
EFGeorgia1
Lizella, GA
(Zone 8a)

October 7, 2011
7:10 PM

Post #8840282

Larkie, do you know the name?
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

October 7, 2011
7:30 PM

Post #8840305

EFGeorgia1 wrote:Here is one I brought up from Florida many years ago. I think it needs more sun.


It looks like a JC Harvey to me. I planted a couple of them this year, but they didn't flower. They should next year.

I got 2 large JC Harvey bulbs off ebay and they came with about 15 offset bulbs that I potted, and gave some to friends.

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CrinumHybridsPinkTwo

Larkie

Larkie
Camilla, GA
(Zone 8a)

October 7, 2011
7:56 PM

Post #8840321

Sorry, sure don't.. Mine came from my grandmother over 40 years ago.

Larkie
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

October 8, 2011
7:46 AM

Post #8840656

Larkie wrote:Sorry, sure don't.. Mine came from my grandmother over 40 years ago.

Larkie


Larkie, take a look at the link above from Pacific Bulb Society. It has a listing of pink crinum including JC Harvey which the above picture looks a lot like.

Larkie

Larkie
Camilla, GA
(Zone 8a)

October 8, 2011
12:12 PM

Post #8840885

Yes, I believe that is it... I also have the Ellen Bosenquet, the dark pink, and they are very pretty..

larkie
EFGeorgia1
Lizella, GA
(Zone 8a)

October 9, 2011
6:52 PM

Post #8842650

Thanks so much Randy. And yes, that is definitely JC Harvey.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 26, 2012
5:44 PM

Post #9099164

My first crinum is getting ready to flower for 2012. A white that turns pink bulbispermum named Chessboard. The scape came up yesterday. It should flower in about a week.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 28, 2012
7:56 AM

Post #9101094

Two days later the previous bulbispermum's scape has grown from 4inches to a foot. and I discovered that another crinum bulbispermum in another bed is up and starting to open flowers.

C.White Pawn on left, C.Chessboard on right. 28Apr2012

The last of the hellebores behind c. White Pawn



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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 28, 2012
9:36 AM

Post #9101193

What I've been working on for much of this spring.

A new/extended crinum bed.

There were 6 crinum at the top of the hill last year with quince and a japanese magnolia along the driveway which I removed to 5 gallon pails for replanting this fall.

There are about 40 new crinum in this bed, most are large to jumbo sized bulbs which should bloom soon (this year or next).

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 28, 2012
9:48 AM

Post #9101207

picture taken 3 weeks ago.

making sure the new crinum bed gets enough sunlight...

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GAgirl1066
Blackshear, GA

April 28, 2012
1:01 PM

Post #9101384

Very Nice Rick...where do you get your crinums from?
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 28, 2012
3:34 PM

Post #9101539

GAgirl1066 wrote:Very Nice Rick...where do you get your crinums from?


I've bought crinum from at least a dozen sources. Numerous crinum from both BulbsNMore and Seedman01 and numerous other ebay sellers. Plant Delights, Marcelle Shepperd, Jenks Farmer, etc

Randy


RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 29, 2012
8:46 PM

Post #9103300

The crinum bulbispermum white pawn bloomed today. 2 buds open and 2 or 3 more that will open the next few days.

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MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 30, 2012
3:43 PM

Post #9104406

I have a pink crinum NOID that Wholyhosta's DD gave me last year at the RU. I have no idea if something special is required to make it bloom It looks happy. Are crinums heavy feeders or can they naturalize?

Elaine, that is a beautiful flower.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 30, 2012
6:27 PM

Post #9104661

MaypopLaurel wrote:I have a pink crinum NOID that Wholyhosta's DD gave me last year at the RU. I have no idea if something special is required to make it bloom It looks happy. Are crinums heavy feeders or can they naturalize?

Elaine, that is a beautiful flower.


Laurel,

give the crinum some 10-10-10 a couple times a year. Or better yet, some osmocote time release. a little composted manure in the fall is good.

Most crinum found are hybrids which propagate by creating offset bulbs. The origonal native species bulbs however produce seeds only. a few hybrids do both.

The link above shows some common pink hybrids which may allow you to identify yours.

Different crinum bloom at different times of the year (spring till frost) and they can take several years to reach blooming size, or to re-establish themselves when moved. A common pink, JC Harvey blooms better if its planted deep.

Randy



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MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 30, 2012
6:31 PM

Post #9104674

Well I'd have to see it in bloom to ID. lol I got it last end of June. What is the bloom range time on crinums? Maybe I should do some research. Maybe if I wasn't planting vegetables twelve hours a day I'd have time to do that. :)
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 30, 2012
7:20 PM

Post #9104734

MaypopLaurel wrote:Well I'd have to see it in bloom to ID. lol I got it last end of June. What is the bloom range time on crinums? Maybe I should do some research. Maybe if I wasn't planting vegetables twelve hours a day I'd have time to do that. :)


depends on the cultivar. anywhere from now until October. Most are rebloomers as the bulb gets older. some as many as 5-6 times. some put out all their flowers at once, some open a new flower every day over a couple weeks. lots of variety. I know one guy in Florida that has 600 cultivars.

MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 1, 2012
7:10 AM

Post #9105318

Thanks for the advice.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 3, 2012
4:22 AM

Post #9108143

the crinum white pawn which was the one above flowering. now into day 5 of flowering.

you can see a flower just opening over the top of one fully open

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 3, 2012
4:25 AM

Post #9108145

The crinum bulbispermum chessboard opened last night with 2 flowers.

The shape of the petals on this bulbispermum are somewhat different than the white pawn.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 4, 2012
8:54 AM

Post #9110103

Day two for crinum bulbispermum Chessboard.

The 2 day old flowers have turned pink, and there is a newly opened white flower in the middle for contrast.

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wholyhosta
Lula, GA

May 6, 2012
10:28 AM

Post #9112660

Laurel, Sandy gave you the Ellen Bousanquet crinum.

Rick, your crinums are so lovely...well worth the wait on some of them!!! That is a neat feature of Chessboard, to have blossoms of different colors at one time!
Perhaps you can help me.
I have a crinum type plant blooming right now. The blossom is pure white, there are at least 10 buds on it, and the stalk came up from the bottom of the plant to bloom in just about a week- very fast. The foliage is bluish green, not bright green and the leaves are more sword-like and pointy, not blunt like the green leafed crinums. The fragrance of the blossoms is very pungent-- my son said they smell like a minty or carnation bubblegum. I got this as a single start 4 years ago. Tag long gone!
Does this ring any bells for you? I do have photos, if you need to see them.

RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 6, 2012
11:15 AM

Post #9112703

wholyhosta wrote:Perhaps you can help me.
I have a crinum type plant blooming right now. The blossom is pure white, there are at least 10 buds on it, and the stalk came up from the bottom of the plant to bloom in just about a week- very fast. The foliage is bluish green, not bright green and the leaves are more sword-like and pointy, not blunt like the green leafed crinums. The fragrance of the blossoms is very pungent-- my son said they smell like a minty or carnation bubblegum. I got this as a single start 4 years ago. Tag long gone!
Does this ring any bells for you? I do have photos, if you need to see them.


Most likely a bulbispermum like the two blooming for me right now. The bluish-green upright foliage and the early bloom time are give-aways. It should set seed and may not produce offset bulbs ( or if it does, very slowly). Bulbispermum can be pure white to pink and all stages in between. If white, It may or may not change color as it ages.

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CrinumSpeciesOne#bulbispermum

wholyhosta
Lula, GA

May 6, 2012
12:37 PM

Post #9112788

Randy, thanks, that is what I thought based on your photos of your White Pawn but none of the plants in that family showed photos with that kind of foliage when I did a search. Are they rare?
And yes, it does have one offset...my son Tobias has put his dibs on it. When is the best time to divide it?

Brenda
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 6, 2012
1:02 PM

Post #9112810

Oh, yes Brenda. I meant your DIL. I thought though that you or she said it was an unnamed variety. Guess I can put a stone with a label down.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 6, 2012
4:51 PM

Post #9113021

Brenda,

Bulbispermum are common. They are the hardiest of the crinum (to zone 5) and are large, so are used a bit in making hybrids. If its making an offset bulb then its not a pure bulbispermum. Native or species crinum only propagate via seed. Hybrids by offsets. In general, but there are exceptions. I would leave the offset in place for at least a year. It will grow faster connected to the mother bulb. Then dig down next to the mother bulb by the offset and gently pull the offset away. The less you disturb the mother bulb, the better. They will be connected at the basil plate (bottom) only. I have a bulb with an offset attached that I bought to plant. I'll post a picture of it here so you can see what it looks like.

If you didn't cut off the flowers, then you should get seed which can be used for growing new crinum. Fill a gallon pot to the top with loose potting mix. lay the crinum seed on top and gently push them 1/2 way into the mix. keep moistened & warm.

Randy

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wholyhosta
Lula, GA

May 6, 2012
5:36 PM

Post #9113095

Thanks for the info, Randy.

Have you ever crossed crinums with other "members" of the species?
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 6, 2012
6:34 PM

Post #9113187

wholyhosta wrote:Thanks for the info, Randy.

Have you ever crossed crinums with other "members" of the species?


I haven't (yet). There is a nice cross between crinum and amaryllis belladonna called amarcrinum. They have most of the crinum characteristics but have an amaryllis like flower. They bloom from late summer until mid-fall. I have 2 of them, one in a pot and one in the ground. Maybe I'll get a picture this year.

The most common one is named amarcrinum howardii which is pale pink.

RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 10, 2012
5:36 AM

Post #9118214

Bloomed last night. Crinum Pink Flamingo.

I have 4-5 other crinum with scapes started up after the heavy rain we've had. So next week should be exciting.

And, started 11 pots for crinum seeds obtained from several sources, including some from Australia.

I'll note that McMahon's nursery in Clermont, GA has some nice potted White Queen crinums for a very good price. I planted one from them in late Feb and it has grown very well in my garden. And a friend also got a nice one from them this week.

Pink Flamingo

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 12, 2012
1:42 PM

Post #9121159

more Pink Flamingo after 2 days. The origonal flowers are holding their shape and color unlike the bulbispermum.

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Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

May 12, 2012
4:36 PM

Post #9121295

Beautiful blooms there Rick!
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 13, 2012
2:47 PM

Post #9122330

They are beautiful, Randy. Wish I could add more but don't really know much about them.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 13, 2012
7:36 PM

Post #9122666

MaypopLaurel wrote:They are beautiful, Randy. Wish I could add more but don't really know much about them.


I'll trade crinum for veggies...



MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 15, 2012
11:41 AM

Post #9124904

I'd be glad to share plants. The veggies themselves are pretty slim pickins until mid to late July. I was at the Atlanta Botanical Garden for a meeting and saw several Crinums in bud there. Unfortunately there was no time to check on the id's. Perhaps if you have some free time you could visit the garden and check them out. They also had very large Amaryillas.

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

May 15, 2012
12:31 PM

Post #9124969

The common 'Milk and Wine' Crinums planted in full sun are blooming now in my area. I've Two variety, the M & W and Ellen Bousequet (I think), they're in partial shade thus haven't shown any blooms as of yet.
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 19, 2012
5:11 AM

Post #9129340

Blooming today, May 19, 2012. Three crinum. Imperial Guard (powellii), White Queen (2 scapes), Wm T Drysdale. (left to right).

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 19, 2012
8:43 AM

Post #9129485

Had a few bulbs left over from the crinum bed along my side driveway, so put in a bed of crinum along the street north of my house that are supposed to be shade tolerant, and a couple I'm hoping are...

If my memory serves me well. left to right

Pink Powellii
Mexican Pink
Moorei (no leaves yet)
Mexican Pink
Cecil Houdyshel (Powellii)
Schmidtii
Bulbispermum
Moorei
Bulbispermum
White Prince
Moorei (no leaves yet)

There are a couple more shade tolerant vars I want to add to this bed, maybe next spring.
TBD, JC Harvey, Cape Dawn



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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 22, 2012
11:42 AM

Post #9133653

Remember the first crinum that flowered for me on April 29th? var c.White Pawn

Its flowering again, 3 weeks later. I hope this is normal, because I just started some seeds for this type crinum.

And the second pic is for anticipation. Two very jumbo crinum Cecil Houdyshels, each have 2 scapes up about to bloom. I keep walking by them once an hour to check on them.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 23, 2012
12:18 PM

Post #9135315

Crinum Herbertii (one of the Milk & Wine types) blooming now.

I bought 3 Milk & Wine crinum bulbs from an ebayer last summer. The first and largest one has a scape started up. The 2nd and 3rd were bought & planted together a month later. One of them has blooms now.

Herbertii has the pink stripe fade towards the edge of the petal.

I have several other crinum Herbertii planted, but this one is the first to bloom. Probably because its next to pots of my amaryllis which get watered every day.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 12, 2012
7:30 PM

Post #9162910

ardesia wrote:I would love to hear your results also. I brought seeds back from FL years ago and grew some impressinve Queen Emmas but this past winter did them all in. In a normal year I am in a zone 9a.


The Queen Emma appeared to be dead this spring and I dug it out and put it in a 5 gallon bucket. However - it has come back to life !!

So I'm not sure what to do with it. I may just keep it another year and will move it inside the garage for the winter.

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

June 13, 2012
5:44 AM

Post #9163275

Thank you Rick for sharing your experience. Yesterday I was delighted to have found out that my Allen B. puts out a scape. I've moved it to the back of the garden where it gets partial shade, and I was afraid it wouldn't bloom this year. But it did!!! Love all these crinums. My Queen A. sits in a big pot. She hasn't bloomed yet this year.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 13, 2012
8:28 AM

Post #9163471

Lily_love wrote:Thank you Rick for sharing your experience. Yesterday I was delighted to have found out that my Allen B. puts out a scape. I've moved it to the back of the garden where it gets partial shade, and I was afraid it wouldn't bloom this year. But it did!!! Love all these crinums. My Queen A. sits in a big pot. She hasn't bloomed yet this year.


I'm sure it will do even better next year after its settled in to its new location.

My Crinum Ellen Bosanquet haven't bloomed yet. Soon I'm sure, after all the rain we've had the last few days.

However I've had quite a show from the White Queen, Cecil Houdyshel, and herbertii.

It does take Crinum bulbs a while to acclimate and grow to blooming size.


Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

June 13, 2012
3:53 PM

Post #9164009

Thanks, I had mine E.B. in a large container last year. It promptly bloomed the first season after planting. Which to my delight. Then I wanted a permanent spot for it in the garden. I transplanted it right away after the blossoms spent. Now I've the reward. My 'Milk & Wine' crinum is sprouting out its second scape, the first one was couple of weeks past.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 30, 2012
4:55 PM

Post #9187977

Here is a picture taken today of two pots of white Crinum jagus in bloom. NOTE: I had been sold the bulbs as moorei, but they are jagus.

second picture is of the pots of seeds I have started. All various types of Crinum except 1 pot which is some zephyranthes seed.

One of the Cecil Houdyshels is putting up another bloom scape and a Milk&Wine Herbertii is blooming now also.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 1, 2012
6:43 AM

Post #9188525

A milk&wine herbertii picture taken this morning. This is the third scape(bloom stalk) for this plant. Its also created some offset bulbs. No seeds from this variety crinum.

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RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 1, 2012
10:26 AM

Post #9188716

I've had up to 4 Crinum Cecil Houdyshel blooming at once. here's a picture of them late June 2012.

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MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 1, 2012
12:10 PM

Post #9188815

OMG, you're a Crinum farmer, Randy! Beautiful flowers.
wholyhosta
Lula, GA

August 26, 2012
2:07 PM

Post #9254532

Randy, my mature (finally) Ellen Bosanquet has sent up another scape...seems late but I'm not complaining. Love this one...I seem to have been given three plants over the years... I have never purchased a crinum bulb. Or plant. All mine came from swaps and trades. A few I took from people because I rarely turn down a plant when it is thrust into my hands. Or a huge naked bulb that I had no idea what it was... but I took it and planted it!

I had a preconceived idea of crinums that has been shot down since my crinums have been blooming this year.
Crinums were a landcape plant used in California landscaping where I was raised as a girl. The plants were untidy and the blossoms were all white... okey... but I was not too impressed. The intervening years have show lots of new plants available due to hybridizing.

My plants are big and healthy and have thrived under my neglect!!! Can't complain about a plant like that... that produces big scapes of beautiful blossoms all summer long.


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wholyhosta
Lula, GA

August 26, 2012
2:37 PM

Post #9254557

Randy, can you please post the names of the seedlings you shared in June, please!

Thanks, Brenda
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

August 29, 2012
10:00 AM

Post #9258238

wholyhosta wrote:Randy, can you please post the names of the seedlings you shared in June, please!

Thanks, Brenda


Brenda,

The crinum seedlings were 1-year old from Crinum bulbispermum. The seeds came from a friend in Missouri who said there were some reds, whites, and mixed. Also the possibility of some cross pollination with his hybrids. He keeps his plants potted and in a hot house over the winter, but bulbispermum is probably hardy, even in Missouri where winters are longer and colder than here.

Bulbispermum is relatively hardy and has a blue-green tint to the leaves. May bloom multiple times in late spring as the bulb gets older.

Randy
wholyhosta
Lula, GA

August 29, 2012
1:44 PM

Post #9258462

Rick, thanks for the information...i do have a bulbispermum, mature, white, that bloomed this year, that you identified for me earlier, in June, I believe.
I will make sure these two youngsters are protected this winter.
Thanks for everything!
~Brenda
wholyhosta
Lula, GA

March 19, 2013
3:46 PM

Post #9455113

Can't wait to see these beauties again. Some of my foliage did not die back as we had a mild winter. I am thinking of adding a few more this year...and I know the guy to consult!!!
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 19, 2013
4:00 PM

Post #9455125

I think I'm needing some Crinum advice from the expert guy who knows his Crinums as well. I thought I killed the big one, Randy, but there are all kinds of shoots coming up around it. The two babies are fine.

Brenda, I need advice on the Brugs. They spent the winter indoors in the south facing window at Maypop with the heat on freeze protect. They have their leaves and look great but I'd like to encourage branching. One of the two is especially needing help as it's a long skinny base, around five feet tall, and with only one lopsided branch. Hmm, maybe a dinner and early tomato seedling exchange is in order?
wholyhosta
Lula, GA

March 19, 2013
6:09 PM

Post #9455251

Laurel...what you can do is air layer.
Score the main trunk, then tape plastic wrap around the trunk below the scoring, add some damp moss or dampened peat, and seal plastic around the trunk above the scoring.
Seal the rest of the plastic tight to keep in the moisture.
This is a solution the bring the upper branches near the top of the main trunk down to a lower level, so the blossoms are not way up in the sky.
Trimming the end of branches will result in less blossoms or a longer wait period for blossoms, as the blossom-producing branches are regrown.

I made the mistake of going to the Plants Delights collection of hundreds of crinum photos...hmmmm...tempting! I probably like the ones most difficult to find on the market!

~Brenda
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 20, 2013
10:13 AM

Post #9455878

Thanks Brenda. I know how to air layer. What I was wondering was if it's possible to propagate brugs anywhere along the stem because online info says "take 6"-8" cuttings" and some plants won't root or air layer on older stem wood. So you are saying I can pick any point I think will make a good growth point and go to town?
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 16, 2013
5:05 PM

Post #9486494

Randy, I have to apologize for hijacking you crinum thread but I've got crinums that I'll need your advice on and those dang brugs. What's with the crinum babies appearing around my big crinum you gave me? Do the mother plants die at year's end? I now have four or five crinums where the one big one you gave me was growing.

Brenda, I need to download photos but came up to Maypop and one of your brugs blooming like crazy in the dining room. You didn't say it was an indoor plant. lol
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 17, 2013
10:54 AM

Post #9487329

This sat inside all winter and got watered once every month or two when we came up. The heat was on freeze protect which means it went down to the low forties. Guess it's time to take it outside.

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wholyhosta
Lula, GA

April 17, 2013
12:16 PM

Post #9487423

Laurel...did you just take this photo? If so, it is doing fabulous!! Gradually move into full sun, it should just keep blooming for you.

Brenda
MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 17, 2013
12:57 PM

Post #9487481

I took it yesterday afternoon. Isn't this something? It's First Belle. I'm going to move it to the filtered shade of the deck. The other one needs some work on its form. It's one seven foot stick with a top knot. Oh and my epimediums are all blooming and looking beautiful We should start a spring thread and get out of Randy's hair. lol
RandyRick
Dahlonega, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 7, 2013
11:12 AM

Post #9511925

Hybrid crinum propagate via offset bulbs. The large bulb shouldn't die back, they live a long time. If the clump of mother bulb and offsets gets too large then trench around the mother bulb and pull off the offsets from the side, trying to minimize disturbance to the big bulb's roots.

If you want to share the plant, then pull off the offset bulbs and pot or plant them. expect 3 years from offset until flowering.

MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 7, 2013
5:47 PM

Post #9512401

Randy, thanks for the crinum information. I was unfamiliar with the plants until your gift. But one more question...can they be maintained and bloomed in large pots? Mine are still not in the ground. I think they'd be safer pot grown. We have fierce voles and moles. They put an end to my Asiatic lily collecting.
dedukes
Savannah, GA

May 8, 2013
7:09 AM

Post #9513082

Hey, folks.

I'm still a newbie struggling gardener. My confederate rose (see picture) has some dusty white spots (bugs?) underneath the upper leaves. Any ideas on what this is and how or if to treat it?

Thanks.

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My apologies. I just realized I posted this in the wrong thread.

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MaypopLaurel
Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

May 8, 2013
11:52 AM

Post #9513434

Did you? From the photo it looks like it is cotton cushion scale or aphids. I'd need a bigger pic to tell but I'm thinking its scale. Try Neem oil spray. Lady bugs lay there eggs on them and also eat them.
wholyhosta
Lula, GA

June 10, 2013
2:58 PM

Post #9553961

Mr. RandyRick...

My pure white blossomed bulbispermum is sending up it's 4th scape of the season. Last summer my son Tobias dug up what we thought was a bulb off this plant with the white blossoms.
Well their transplanted offshoot is blooming and the blossoms look like this. There is also another photo of the plant. Is this normal or what is going on?
Sandy told me this morning that the pink stripe on the backs of the blossoms have almost disappeared and that the blossoms are pinker.

Thanks!

Brenda

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TulipLady
Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 13, 2013
9:58 AM

Post #9557592

Hello all,
One of my older neighbors gave me a Crinium bulb few years ago as a "Thank you". It hadn't done a thing except grow leaves and an extra shoot. So decided to give it one more year and look...!
I'd like to know which kind it is. The neighbor told me he dug this up at an old (150 years) abandoned farm in GA. Neighbor has since moved so cannot check with him.
Any ideas? And what do I do with the tall TALL leaves after bloom?
Thank you for advice, Coby

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