Crinums in Georgia

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Hello folks,

I started planting a few crinum bulbs here in north Georgia. What success have others had?

Lets talk crinum in Georgia here.

Here's a picture of a crinum scabrum taken last week. One of the first to flower for me. I'm told that crinum may not bloom until the 2nd year when transplanted, even mature bulbs.

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Blackshear, GA

Very pretty Randy. I am in south GA, but have several crinums. I love them! We have just bought some land and are building a house. We have a 1/2 mile road up tothe house with a pasture on one side. I am thinking of planting crinums along the road.

I rescued these at the dump last year...

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Blackshear, GA

And this is my absolute favorite...

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(Zone 9a)

Paula, your rescue looks like a Crinum americanum. If so, you will have many, many plants for your new home by next year. They multiply like bunnies.

My favorite is C. 'Mrs. James Hendry', the flowers are not that outstanding but the scent is fabulous.

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(Zone 9a)

C. 'Bradley' is pretty also. Your Queen Emma is awesome, I have never seen such a large one in a container.

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Blackshear, GA

Love them both! Very pretty!! I have got to repot the QE and get some of those babies off. It has outgrown that pot.

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Very nice plants.

I have a Mrs. James Hendry which was planted this year, its not one showing signs of blooming this year.

Also have a Queen Emma in the ground here in Dahlonega. I'm told won't grow, but it was a large one and I planted it deep, so, maybe?

I've planted about a dozen Ellen Bosanquet. One of the last bulbs I planted, no more than a month ago is starting to bloom. This should look better in another day or two.

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Randy, 'Queen Emma' is very much tropical. I "test planted" one in my garden, and that was the last I saw it. Luckily I've kept others in container, last year I was rewarded with beautiful blooms. 'E. Bosanquet' is a gorgeous fuschia pink. I've got a couple that bloomed earlier this spring.

Guyton, GA(Zone 8b)

I had several transplants that I put in fall of last year. They were all mature. One had beautiful blooms last week, one has not bloomed or showed any signs of blooming(but looks really healthy), one is barely hanging on(dog keeps digging it up) and the last one that was really looking good was run over by the lawn mower by my son ugghhhh! Oh well the one that bloomed and my established clump from two years ago were great!

Atlanta, GA(Zone 7b)

what kind is this? I got this huge bulb at the RU in Jonesboro... 2006 maybe?

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

That's such a fine spicemen sterhill. It looks like Ellen Bosanquet to me. Needs expert advice, I'm not.

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Quote from sterhill :
what kind is this? I got this huge bulb at the RU in Jonesboro... 2006 maybe?



It looks a lot like Ellen Bosanquet. But there are several crinum that look similar.

here's my 1st blooming Ellen B. again, 2 days later than the above pic. It has 11 buds on the umbel, so hasn't fully opened yet.

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Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

I've posted the list of crinum I've planted in my blog. http://davesgarden.com/tools/blog/index.php?tabid=15756

One of the best references with pictures of crinum online is at Plant Delights Nursery with 253 pictures of various crinum.

http://gallery.plantdelights.com/Crinum-Lilies

I received a DVD from Bulbs N More which I've loaded to my computer, it has a detailed description of many crinum and hundreds of pictures.

http://stores.ebay.com/Bulbs-N-More-Crinum-Specialists?_trksid=p4340.l2563



This message was edited May 17, 2012 12:30 PM

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Quote from Lily_love :
Randy, 'Queen Emma' is very much tropical. I "test planted" one in my garden, and that was the last I saw it. Luckily I've kept others in container, last year I was rewarded with beautiful blooms.


I'm told that there are 2 types of Queen Emma. The Hawaiian type which is more tropical and the type I have which I believe came from Mexico. But a crinum expert said the hardier variety should be ok in zone 8. He did say if I manage to grow one in Dahlonega (7a) it would need to be a large one and planted deep and well mulched in the winter. So, I decided to give it a shot.



This message was edited Jul 17, 2011 9:06 AM

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Randy, please keep me posted on the result of your experiment. Thanks.

(Zone 9a)

I would love to hear your results also. I brought seeds back from FL years ago and grew some impressinve Queen Emmas but this past winter did them all in. In a normal year I am in a zone 9a.

This site has some excellent info and pictures of crinums. Marcelle is THE crinum guru.
http://marcellescrinums.com/

Jenks Farmer has some awesome crinums also but his are pricey.
http://www.jenksfarmer.com/


Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Quote from ardesia :
I would love to hear your results also. I brought seeds back from FL years ago and grew some impressinve Queen Emmas but this past winter did them all in. In a normal year I am in a zone 9a.

This site has some excellent info and pictures of crinums. Marcelle is THE crinum guru.
http://marcellescrinums.com/

Jenks Farmer has some awesome crinums also but his are pricey.
http://www.jenksfarmer.com/




I just bought 2 Giant sized Cecil Houdyshel crinums from Jenks Farmer. They are on sale now as well as some other crinums. The price I paid for his giants was about what I'd pay for a large or maybe jumbo somewhere else. So it pays to look around as prices do vary. Some crinum sellers don't mention anything about bulb size or roots. Some are just dried bulbs, or ones hydroponic grown.

yes, Marcelle is the Queen of crinum. I should have included her web page in my post.

Getting good information about bloom times, and mature plant sizes and growing conditions is difficult. While I think that Plant Delights has similar growing conditions to what I have (zone 7) the data that Bulbs N More provides in his web pages and on his DVD is the best (albeit zone 9 Florida).


This message was edited May 17, 2012 12:31 PM

(Zone 9a)

OK, I am in trouble now, I will have to check out Nestor White, LOL I have been slowly converting my garden to as close to a truly no work garden as possible. Crinums when appropriatly planted need little care and that is where I am aiming. I once had an Ellen Bosenquet that was planted too close to the driveway and I gave it to a friend, it just grew too large and was tearing up the pavement. Now I am better at giving them the room they need and letting them go to town.

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Send Bulbs N More an email and ask for his DVD. Or if you buy something from him off ebay, he will send you one.

Some of Bulbs N More ebay prices are discounted, some are the same as his fixed list prices. There are more crinum on his list than he has on ebay. Although he says that sometimes he puts things on ebay that aren't on his list. His list included on the DVD was updated this spring, so probably is all inclusive at this point.

I have only a few sunny spots for crinum, and have a lot of shaded areas. So I'm going to be experimenting with crinum that like shade or partial shade. I planted 2 pink crinum moorei from Plant Delights and 2 white moorei from EdensBlooms.com in full shade. Some of the hybrids say they are OK in partial shade or filtered sunlight, so am giving some a try in those conditions.

I bought 2 XL size Ellen Bosanquets from ebay seller bdbd601 who is still selling them. Per the picture of her garden posted on ebay, she has a lot of Ellens. Anyway, one of them is the one I posted pictures of in my first post, the second one, planted the same day, less than 2 months ago now has up TWO scapes.



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Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

The above Crinum Ellen Bosanquet is now in bloom. Beautiful with two scapes up, one slightly taller than the other.

I also have a Crinum Gowenii with a scape up that should bloom for me next week.

So keep those crinum pictures coming.

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

By far C. 'Ellen Bosanquet' is my most cherrished. She is just bright and cheerful when in blooms.

Cleveland,GA/Atlanta, GA(Zone 7b)

All are beautiful.

Camilla, GA(Zone 8a)

I have a white (unknown name), very light blush pink (unknown) and the dark pink, Ellen Bosanquet..It is one of my favorites... They multiply like wildfire here in SW GA.. Some of the bulbs are larger than softballs..

Larkie

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Quote from Larkie :
I have a white (unknown name), very light blush pink (unknown) and the dark pink, Ellen Bosanquet..It is one of my favorites... They multiply like wildfire here in SW GA.. Some of the bulbs are larger than softballs..

Larkie


Nice. The white with pink type crinum is generally called a Milk & Wine. There are actually several types of crinum that fall into this general category. Crinum Herbertii is the most common as it grows well in the South and has beautiful blooms. Other Milk & Wines can be Bulbispermum, Gowenii, Scabrum, and other less common ones.

Post some pictures if you get a chance?

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

I've had a Milk & Wine bloom for me. This is a Gowenii Hoboken, probably named after Hoboken, GA.

This is one of the crinum obtained from Bulbs N More this year.

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Blackshear, GA

Hoboken is only 10 minutes from me...

Lizella, GA(Zone 8a)

Here is one I brought up from Florida many years ago. I think it needs more sun.

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Camilla, GA(Zone 8a)

I have this one and it is so delicate and beautiful.

Lizella, GA(Zone 8a)

Larkie, do you know the name?

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Quote from EFGeorgia1 :
Here is one I brought up from Florida many years ago. I think it needs more sun.


It looks like a JC Harvey to me. I planted a couple of them this year, but they didn't flower. They should next year.

I got 2 large JC Harvey bulbs off ebay and they came with about 15 offset bulbs that I potted, and gave some to friends.

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CrinumHybridsPinkTwo

Camilla, GA(Zone 8a)

Sorry, sure don't.. Mine came from my grandmother over 40 years ago.

Larkie

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Quote from Larkie :
Sorry, sure don't.. Mine came from my grandmother over 40 years ago.

Larkie


Larkie, take a look at the link above from Pacific Bulb Society. It has a listing of pink crinum including JC Harvey which the above picture looks a lot like.

Camilla, GA(Zone 8a)

Yes, I believe that is it... I also have the Ellen Bosenquet, the dark pink, and they are very pretty..

larkie

Lizella, GA(Zone 8a)

Thanks so much Randy. And yes, that is definitely JC Harvey.

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

My first crinum is getting ready to flower for 2012. A white that turns pink bulbispermum named Chessboard. The scape came up yesterday. It should flower in about a week.

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Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Two days later the previous bulbispermum's scape has grown from 4inches to a foot. and I discovered that another crinum bulbispermum in another bed is up and starting to open flowers.

C.White Pawn on left, C.Chessboard on right. 28Apr2012

The last of the hellebores behind c. White Pawn



This message was edited Apr 28, 2012 10:59 AM

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Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

What I've been working on for much of this spring.

A new/extended crinum bed.

There were 6 crinum at the top of the hill last year with quince and a japanese magnolia along the driveway which I removed to 5 gallon pails for replanting this fall.

There are about 40 new crinum in this bed, most are large to jumbo sized bulbs which should bloom soon (this year or next).

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Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

picture taken 3 weeks ago.

making sure the new crinum bed gets enough sunlight....

This message was edited Apr 28, 2012 12:49 PM

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Blackshear, GA

Very Nice Rick...where do you get your crinums from?

Dahlonega, GA(Zone 7b)

Quote from GAgirl1066 :
Very Nice Rick...where do you get your crinums from?


I've bought crinum from at least a dozen sources. Numerous crinum from both BulbsNMore and Seedman01 and numerous other ebay sellers. Plant Delights, Marcelle Shepperd, Jenks Farmer, etc

Randy


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