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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 6, 2011
3:51 PM

Post #8676757

Spotted a Bobcat in the yard today. Ground breaking for the new pond begins. I am so excited!

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2011
5:07 PM

Post #8676850

Oh, I cannot wait to see!
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2011
5:17 PM

Post #8676881

lol. At first I though you meant a furry bobcat. couldn't see the picture very well. A friend of ours from N Dakota used and sold them up in Fairbanks. the mechanical not the furry. :) How exciting...
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 6, 2011
8:52 PM

Post #8677319

The boulders arrived. Picked out a big one that will be a "two seater" on the ponds edge.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 6, 2011
8:54 PM

Post #8677321

This lovely yard art was delivered last night.Sitting in the middle of the front yard. Oh Yeah! Nice touch!

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2011
10:05 PM

Post #8677436

Hey, would you prefer pink flamingos?? Ours are usually green at least. Those boulders are huge.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 7, 2011
7:38 AM

Post #8677935

Nice boulders - how big will your new pond be?

The second picture is interesting. Better that then having them use the one in your home.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 7, 2011
11:46 AM

Post #8678411

The new pond will be 12' wide by 20' length with a 25' long stream. 3 ft deep in most areas. Going to be great.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 7, 2011
12:39 PM

Post #8678532

Oh it is going to be great!
realsis

July 8, 2011
11:20 AM

Post #8680434

how fun! how many gallons will it be??
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 8, 2011
4:32 PM

Post #8680933

The pond will be about 5400 gal. Good thing I live in Oregon and we have plenty of rain to keep it filled.

Largest shed built today 16' x 8' :)

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 8, 2011
4:33 PM

Post #8680934

Second shed 10x 10.

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SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 8, 2011
4:34 PM

Post #8680937

Wow! I have serious rock envy! It's going to look great!
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 8, 2011
5:21 PM

Post #8681039

I don't know about 'rock envy' but I surely have square footage and gallonage and shed envy!!!
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 9, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8682910

I am having serious shed envy too...
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

July 11, 2011
6:13 AM

Post #8685495

I will be following the progress of your pond!! Very exciting!!

Bellie
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 11, 2011
2:57 PM

Post #8686584

Now this will be a pond! It already sounds lovely. I can't wait to see the final product.
C
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2011
10:11 AM

Post #8688069

Retaining wall of boulders are in.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2011
10:12 AM

Post #8688072

Ground breaking for the pond. yeah!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2011
10:13 AM

Post #8688074

Starting the stream bed.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2011
10:14 AM

Post #8688079

Water works

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2011
10:16 AM

Post #8688082

Master mind behind this project. Jamison Ulibarri owner Son Light Landscaping Silverton Oregon.
Tel 503-874-8811 Cel 503-932-1985
Web http://www.sonlightlandscapes.com/
FB http://www.facebook.com/pages/Son-Light-Landscapes/106819042714105


The best! He created my last pond so I am sure this one will be great too!

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 12, 2011
10:35 AM

Post #8688128

My golly. What a project. So the piping for the water and/or drains is about 1' below pond bottom level??
NativeVA
Craig Co., VA
(Zone 7a)

July 12, 2011
11:48 AM

Post #8688326

Keep those pictures coming!
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 12, 2011
1:51 PM

Post #8688555

The piping is about six inches below. He has changed the slope of the lot and is building it up as we go. They now appear to be about 1-3 " below.. Some will be under paver walk ways and others in new flower beds. Must try to mark and remember where they will be buried when I dig the dirt. No work today due to the rain last night. :(
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 12, 2011
2:34 PM

Post #8688627

Yeah. gully washer rain here today, and lighter rain yesterday. No complaints though. The last few weeks have actually be beautiful.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
7:33 PM

Post #8691030

Some of my neighbors strolling by to check on the progress of their new pond.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
7:35 PM

Post #8691034

You looking at me? This one was staring at me this morning as I sat by my bedroom window enjoying that first cup of coffee. Mornings are going to be great around here.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
7:38 PM

Post #8691036

The crew was back today with another fun toy.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
7:41 PM

Post #8691040

This poor fellow had the aweful task of compacting the earth all around the pond. He said before he went home that he still felt like he was vibrating. Not a job I could handle. Very noisy too! Sounded like a helicopter was hovering over my house all day.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
7:44 PM

Post #8691044

The weiner dog two lots down wanted to know what all the ruckus was about.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
7:47 PM

Post #8691054

The pond is getting bigger every day. They worked on developing a plant shelf today. Baby steps and it will soon be done.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
7:56 PM

Post #8691071

Very hectic day with the pond building, the blind installation on my windows,and the tree service checking out all the trees on this property. 8 oaks will need to be removed next tueday due to disease and ice damage in years past. The other will get some branch pruning. There goes most of my budget for the front yard landscaping!! Bummer, but it is a safety issue and needs to be done. One beautiful thing happed today. A day lilly bloomed and it is so pretty!

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 13, 2011
7:58 PM

Post #8691077

I want a place where you live. Deer, greenery, no highways in your back yard, just deer. I think Dallas is just south of Portland?? I wonder what about 20 acres would cost? I am so excited to watch your project. A 12 year old was running that loader? What a hoot.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 13, 2011
8:24 PM

Post #8691124

so how did you come to move to Dallas, Oregon? I googled a bit and it looks like a really nice place to live.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2011
10:16 PM

Post #8691267

Dallas is south of Portland and southwest of Salem. Real Estate is very affordable here i think. Here is a local web link to some horse properties for a comparison to AK. http://www.homeswithhorsesense.com/dallas-idx.php
My sister lives in Anchorage and It can be an expensive place to live, not to mention cold. I moved to Dallas by chance. I was looking for a larger acerage property in the country, but on my budget if I got some acerage I would not get a decent home. So I settled for .25 acres and a recently renovated 1968 home with $$ to spare to get the landscaping done here. The homes in this neighborhood are spaced on larger lots with large trees and the feel of living in the country. I love it. Silverton where I lived before was a wonderful town. I just did not like the neighborhood I lived in. The houses were built very close togethr and despite the lovely garden & pond I had there, i never had any privacy or peace & quiet like i have here. So far so good. :) I even have found two tree frogs. I am hoping many will come to the pond as well as the bull frogs I fell in love with at my last pond. Miss them

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 14, 2011
6:21 AM

Post #8691563

BeaHive

I hear you - DH and I are not too thrilled with our neighbors. Neighbors can certainly make or break a situation. We have done everything to make our yard private and have had a lot of comments on how private our yard is, yet it is in the middle of town.

We plan on moving when I retire and plan on going more rural than we are right now. We, too will be building another pond when we move.

Loving your pictures - keep them coming.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

July 14, 2011
6:48 AM

Post #8691629

Beahive,
Is that a alocasia where froggie is in? If so do you know what spicie? sp???

Thanks, Belle
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 14, 2011
8:33 AM

Post #8691802

Oh, I love the froggie. I will follow the url to see about property. We also are in a noisy unprivate place. Although we like most all our neighbors and have sort of been adopted by the younger couples with little kids. I retired two years ago and am still trying to get used to it. winters are longggggg.

I saw some properties with 5-10 acres that would suit me fine. but the thought of starting over in a totally strange place is scary.

am so very much enjoying your pictures. also very instructive!!
shrubbs
Beavertown, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 14, 2011
10:00 AM

Post #8691954

BeaHive

Will you be keeping koi in your pond and are snakes / raccoons a big issue where you live (as far as ponds)?

Just curious. I am enjoying the updates.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 14, 2011
10:26 AM

Post #8692015

Yes I will be having Koi in my pond. I was able to catch 9 of 21 before I moved. They are in a water trough waiting for their new home.
We do have racoons so the pond will have a shallow plant shelf with a sharp drop off. I also took my large koi castle from the other house so they have a place to escape. I have not seen any snakes yet, and I hope i don't . Hate snakes. :(

Check out this BBC link I found today. These toads are so beautiful. Glad they were found.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/14151541
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:39 AM

Post #8693655

Belle that was an alocasia but at my old house & pond several years ago. Sorry do not remember the variety.

Plant shelf.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:41 AM

Post #8693661

The underliner for the stream is laid down.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:42 AM

Post #8693666

Getting the liner ready for transport to the back yard.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:43 AM

Post #8693669

Liner arriving to the back yard.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:46 AM

Post #8693674

Positioning the liner into place.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:47 AM

Post #8693679

Spreading the liner on the stream bed is a four man job!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:49 AM

Post #8693685

Moving some boulders into the stream bed.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:51 AM

Post #8693687

Some of the boulders were place by hand by strong young men.My back hurt just watching them.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
6:52 AM

Post #8693690

At the end of the day more digging of the pond began.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 15, 2011
10:31 AM

Post #8694026

What a project. It is really fun to watch, although wish it were in MY back yard. I see the shed is on skids. so it will be moved and placed permanently later? How really exciting.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2011
3:09 PM

Post #8694480

The shed will stay as is. The blocks were needed to level it. The existing slab that was there was not level so the shed could not be directly on it as planned. I now need to get some kind of metal wiring/netting to keep local critters from making a home underneath it. Oh Well!

Making good progress today. More pic's to come. :)
realsis

July 16, 2011
7:44 AM

Post #8695566

how wonderful! im envious! my pond is only 2,225 gallons! i always want to make it bigger! you will be very glad you made a big one! i also have koi. i have 10! ive raised them from babies now they are huge! you should join a watergarden and koi club! i just joined one in my area and its wonderful! ive learned so much about ponds, koi , and plants from them! we go on trips to different ponds and have a time for education and questions . its wonderful! perhaps you might be interested? you can find a club in your area or ican help you find one if your interested. im so glad i finally joined! we meet once a month on a saturday. we also go on trips to koi farms. ive learned so much about koi from the club and learned about water parameters, quartine, koi health, medications, pond care, trouble shooting, weekly care, and met others with the same intrests! i highly recomend you find a club in your area! you can show offyour new beautiful pond too! its a lot of fun! let me know if your interested and maybe i can help you find a club! keep the pictures comming! its comming along so nicely! congradulations! when you fill the water make sure and use a dechlorine agent in the water! you dont want to burn the kois gills! happy ponding :) write backand let me know if thats something you would be intrested in ok ? :)

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
5:52 PM

Post #8696508

realsis..thanks for your willingness to help me find a Koi club. I have so much going on right now..no time for social type events. I promise to look into it when the time is right. Your pond & koi look very nice. On top of what needs to be done with the pond before adding the fishes. They are anxious to get in there soon!
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 16, 2011
6:19 PM

Post #8696560

BeaHive, how long have the fishies been out of their pond and what is the estimate of their delivery to the new pond. Is the water going into the pond well water or city? Will it need to be de-chlorinated?

Mine is now clear as a bell and a lovely shade of green!! Two UV's and I can't keep the green down. Oh well, the fish like it. Really isn't much green on the rock or floor, so it must be floating in the pond itself Skimmer pad is always green and needs cleaning twice daily. maybe just too much sun -- bite my tongue.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:28 PM

Post #8696575

The koi have been out of the Silverton pond for about three weeks. They are doing just fine in the 100 gal stock tank right now. Has a small filter and some floating plants. They arn't complaining yet!

Well Friday was a great day. The gang spent the early morning digging and perfecting the plant shelf getting ready for the underliner.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:29 PM

Post #8696578

Just about ready...

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:29 PM

Post #8696581

Half the liner in..

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:30 PM

Post #8696582

Now the other side and bottom.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:32 PM

Post #8696585

Now the top liner..one giant piece will do the trick

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:33 PM

Post #8696586

Yeah!! It fits with some to spare!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:34 PM

Post #8696589

Now placing more boulders in the pond.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:35 PM

Post #8696592

Jamison gets to have all the fun on the Bobcat!!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
6:39 PM

Post #8696598

More rocks coming soon in all shapes and sizes. I found a beautiful Japanese maple tree today. Will be delivered on thursday.

Until monday...thats all for now

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 16, 2011
7:57 PM

Post #8696713

I waited all day to see pictures. so glad you posted them. Remind me again how many gallons. And the falls are to the left coming into the pond?
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 16, 2011
8:14 PM

Post #8696741

BeaHive

I am so excited for you! Great Pictures.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2011
8:57 PM

Post #8696809

The pond and stream I calculate to be over 5400 gals. The stream goes off to the left and will have a fall to the pond. The pond will be city water and we will make sure to dechlorinate the water and let it run for several days before the koi will be released,
NativeVA
Craig Co., VA
(Zone 7a)

July 17, 2011
2:04 PM

Post #8698042

Wow, that Bobcat with a "thumb" looks like the perfect machine to gently place those big boulders without any damage to the liner, I will have to remember that when I build mine! What mil is the liner?
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 17, 2011
2:27 PM

Post #8698070

I know we will see shortly, but is there any gravel going into the pond? Or just big stones around the perimeter to hold down the lining
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
5:44 AM

Post #8699045

No gravel..river rocks of all sizes. I think delivery is today on some more rocks. :)
NativeVA
Craig Co., VA
(Zone 7a)

July 18, 2011
6:06 AM

Post #8699068

5400 gallons minus rock displacement equals 1200 gallons! (Just kidding)
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
6:08 AM

Post #8699074

I will know when the water bill comes after filling the pond.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 18, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8700451

Hey, be sure that your sanitary sewer rates aren't based on your city water usage. It is here. If we were going to fill a pond that big, we'd have to get the city to come get a meter reading before and after. They we'd just be paying water rates. Otherwise the neighbors have a company come fill their pool with truck water.

islandgirl37
Marathon, FL
(Zone 11)

July 18, 2011
5:40 PM

Post #8700529

What a wonderful pond! I can't wait to see more. It's going to be GORGEOUS!
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
6:58 PM

Post #8700695

Despite the drizzle today the entire crew put in a very hard day moving more boulders and river rocks. Here they are hand placing a boulder just right.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
6:59 PM

Post #8700700

1st load of many river rocks

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
7:00 PM

Post #8700701

Hand placing each river rock

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
7:01 PM

Post #8700704

More river rocks. They are so pretty.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
7:02 PM

Post #8700707

Pond building is dirty work. He liked the weight of this rock as opposed to those boulders!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
7:03 PM

Post #8700710

Now the mini river rocks are added to fill all the nooks and cranies.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
7:04 PM

Post #8700713

The rock work is almost finished in the stream and pond. Tuesday 8 oak trees to come down so no work on the pond. I hope to get a few pics of the tree removal which should be entertaining but noisy. More to come soon..

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MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

July 18, 2011
9:01 PM

Post #8700927

Congratulations on the move and great to see you posting again. You don't do things by halves, do you, BeaHive? What a fantastic project. Just a word of warning - under no circumstances give Mrs Ed your address. You'll go to bed one night and wake up in the morning to find every last rock gone. She will be having very serious rock envy.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2011
9:11 PM

Post #8700944

Just received a d-mail from Mrs Ed. She will need a mighty large suitcase to get all these rocks back to IL. I think it would take her more than one night to get them all. I hope this will be my forever home and garden so I hope to get it perfect this time. The last house was close..but hated the neighborhood with the houses so close together. This one feels just right..so far!

Loved your pic's of Big Hook & family that you posted today. Beautiful! Hope all is well with you down under!
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

July 18, 2011
9:20 PM

Post #8700958

Yes, BeaHive, all is well down under. Thanks for your comments about the ospreys. They're good subjects. I'm hoping to get down there this afternoon, but it's starting to cloud up. Oh, and I'm sure Mrs Ed will have a very large suitcase attached to the business end of a crane. Just be careful. LOL.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 19, 2011
5:23 AM

Post #8701215

mwahahahahah.

Stop giving away all my secrets.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

July 19, 2011
5:32 AM

Post #8701225

Your rock envy is well known, Mrs Ed. It's no secret.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 19, 2011
5:36 AM

Post #8701232

Ah yes, but don't think anyone knew about the crane.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 19, 2011
8:45 AM

Post #8701569

Ah, my laugh for the morning. Are you guys really up this early or is this site posting MY time on your comments. I am facinated with the rock also. It is so different from what I have. Mine are big greyish slabs. No ledges so needed big slabs to form the walls on the 4' end. Can hardly wait to see the pond and river with water running. And the fishies will be soooo happy to get out of the small pond into the new one.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

July 19, 2011
11:57 AM

Post #8701926

Beahive,
Just curious!! Will it be cheaper to put a well rather than using city water? With your drought problem the city might be charging more. It is looking good!!! Bellie
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 19, 2011
3:19 PM

Post #8702287

I know when my neighbor had his swimming pool filled, he contacted our local fire dept and they came and filled his pool...

Beahive - I was wondering how far is your new home from your old home? How did you move your fish?
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2011
5:48 PM

Post #8702534

To answer all your questions : The big boulders are called orange rock. They are very pretty. I do not plan to put in a well. As far as I know there is not a drought in the Willamette Valley region of Oregon. We had very heavy rains this weekend. In fact we had about two inches of water collect in the pond. It had to be pumped out so they could lay the rocks monday. I will call the water dept and try to find out the best way to fill this pond. It rains so much here that once it is filled the rain keeps it topped off most of the time. At my last house I kept the auto fill off 10 months of the year. My old house is about 45 minutes NE from this house.I moved the 9 fish in a rubber maid storage box with a lid. The movers lifted it for me to my car.

Tree trimming was completed today. Great crew and very brave to shimmy up the trees.( 100-150 ft tall) iT was a very noisy day and I am now enjoying some quiet time.

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Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 19, 2011
6:05 PM

Post #8702568

look at all that awesome moss!

for anyone taking notes, that's
1-Zone Envy
2-Rock Envy
3-Moss Envy
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2011
6:18 PM

Post #8702600

Starting the climb up.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2011
6:23 PM

Post #8702613

Since I donated all the fire wood to charity they were kind enough to cut up slices that I plan to use as temp stepping "stones" in some places around the yard that will not have paver work yet. With a little wood sealer and staining, they should last for a while then can be replaced by stone pavers later.Many more in the back yard.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2011
6:26 PM

Post #8702619

This machine is the stump grinder. It is a big boy's version of a remote control car except it does not go very fast. It was a tight fit getting it past the shed to the corner of the yard but they made it without scatching the paint on the shed. Cool machine. Well I hope we are back to the pond building tomorrow.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 19, 2011
8:12 PM

Post #8702829

Looks like your daylilies are about to sprout in the foreground. What a huge project. You must be exhausted 'supervising'!
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2011
8:20 PM

Post #8702841

Yeah the DL's are starting to pop. I am so glad they survived winter in pots & the move. They are dying to stretch their roots in this new garden. I am exhaused supervising, but woiuld be more tired hauling those rocks for sure. Just happy I have the best team working on this project. :)

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 19, 2011
9:50 PM

Post #8702901

My gosh. You moved the DL and they still bloomed. Amazing
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2011
8:14 PM

Post #8704998

The wonderful crew are still here after 11+ hours. They are amazing. I fed them pizza & salad and they are re-charged to keep going. Today the skimmer was put in place .

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2011
8:16 PM

Post #8705004

The underwater lights came out of the boxes and will be hooked up very soon.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2011
8:19 PM

Post #8705009

More boulder placement today. Wow..these guys are strong!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2011
8:22 PM

Post #8705018

7:45 pm.. fine tuning the skimmer.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2011
8:27 PM

Post #8705031

Getting so close to adding the water. I am told it may be tomorrow. So excited! Getting all my water plants ready for their new home. The marginals arrived today. The water lilies have been potted up and some will be planted directly into the river rock too!. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings. Yeah!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2011
9:30 PM

Post #8705101

Around 9PM and some last minute rock tweaking going on. Filling tomorrow I am told. Yeah!
They have gone home to their loved ones. I am sure all will sleep very well tonight. Thanks Jamison for making this wonderful pond!
Looking forward to tomorrow!
By the way, Jamison has joined DG and hopes to join in the conversations once time permits.. I have been keeping him very busy. Garden paths project still to come.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 20, 2011
9:31 PM

Post #8705102

and the excitement and anticipation builds...and builds...gosh, you would think it was MY pond. lol. I am so excited for you
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2011
9:37 PM

Post #8705115

Thanks. I am excited for me too! We are going to read the water meter before and after to get a reading on the actual gallon.
NativeVA.. Jamison says with the rock diplacement and the more shelves on this pond, the gallons will be less that 5400. I just calculated
12' x 20' x 3'. I guess there is a more scientific formula to be more acurate. Beyond me...I will look at the water meter tomorrow..LOL!

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2011
5:55 AM

Post #8705592

Exciting.

I'm sure my DH knows all those calculations. He was asking me to ask you about the cost per unit, blah blah blah. Geek!

Well Jamison, good job. Now head over to Illinois! ;-)
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2011
8:20 AM

Post #8705864

Hey Jamison. Been to Alaska yet? lol. They could use some good competition around here. Wish you had been here four years ago.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

July 21, 2011
11:17 AM

Post #8706358

after my pond was finished, it was filled with well water , let it run doe 24 hours then a almost total water change to remove all the dirt from the rocks. I think it was few days later that the plants were introduced then the fish.My pond is 8 years old.

Very exciting!!!

Bellie

BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2011
8:34 PM

Post #8707584

The excitement begins as the filling begins.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2011
8:39 PM

Post #8707601

The potted water lilies, the koi castle and some more water lilies were added into the nooks and cranies before the water got to deep.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2011
8:41 PM

Post #8707605

It's getting deeper!!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2011
8:43 PM

Post #8707610

1/2 way filling...ooooooooh the suspense is killing me !!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2011
8:45 PM

Post #8707612

It is full now and looks just beautiful!!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2011
8:48 PM

Post #8707615

Here is the view looking down the stream . Pretty wonderful I must say! Jamison you and your crew are just awesome!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2011
8:56 PM

Post #8707633

Here is the backside view of the pond. Pretty also. Tomorrow it will be up to me to start planting around the pond. I have Siberian Iris,hosta's,astillbes, ferns,sedum,and an assortment of marginal water plants to plant. No rain in the forecast..its going to be a fun day getting my hands dirty again. The gang will be away for awhile working on other projects and taking a few days of R & R. They need it for sure after moving all these rock!! When they return they will be working on the pathways around the pond. More heavy lifting with the pavers. Rest up all and enjoy your time away!!

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jam_session
Woodburn, OR

July 21, 2011
10:34 PM

Post #8707761

Bea, Thanks for the compliments,. I'm glad you like it, and I am so looking forward to see your plantings. No pond looks complete without lots of plants in it, and around it!

mstella, Bea posted a picture of some irrigation piping, and the source line to the pond's automatic fill valve; we did not put any drain at the bottom. We are pumping most of the water from the skimmer to a biological filter at the top of the stream (Pond Builder bio-waterfall), and we ran another pipe to the bottom of the pond with three outlets to prevent stratification.

shrubbs, Snakes are not a concern here in the Willamette Valley but racoons definitely are. I've seen them do a lot of damage to plants before, and they get fish sometimes too, but 2 ft. deep water or more helps keep them safe. The coons are glad to get wet, but they won't swim to get fish, so I am told. Coons have been implicated in claw holes in liner too, when it's unprotected by rock.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

July 21, 2011
10:42 PM

Post #8707768

Fantastic, Bea Hive and congratulations to Jamison and crew for a job really well done. Jamison, after you've been to Illinois to see Mrs Ed and up to Alaska to see what projects mstella has for you, you might like to head downunder for a breather.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2011
10:43 PM

Post #8707769

"we ran another pipe to the bottom of the pond with three outlets to prevent stratification."

I thought stratification was a good thing. Or do you mean to make sure the water changes out completely, like no dead spots. Wouldn't that sort of function like a bottom feeder to the skimmer?
jam_session
Woodburn, OR

July 21, 2011
11:00 PM

Post #8707777

Thanks MargaretK, my wife said she would love to come with me to Australia!

mstella, yes, we want to keep circulate everywhere to keep oxygen everywhere. No dead spots. The skimmer circulates effectively to 2 ft. deep, but Bea's pond is 3 ft. deep so we ran an outlet to the bottom. And yes that's like a bottom feeder to the skimmer, just the opposite direction. Besides, I'd rather not cut the liner below water level any more than I have to.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2011
11:55 PM

Post #8707801

I agree. i had considered retroing a bottom filter but settled on a Laguna 2900 gph falls pump in the bottom of my 4' pond, pumping to the falls pressure filter and 55W UV. The 48" uv and the head going to the falls has seriously cut down the thruput so we are going to a 1 1/2" hose to try to increase it without overpowering both filter and UV. Wish I could do it all over again. Your pond looks really cool. very interesting rock work. Will look forward to seeing the water clear up and the lovely flowers and plants going around.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2011
4:25 AM

Post #8708016

It is soooo gorgeous. I just love it. I cannot wait to see when the plantings are in.

Jamison - such nice work you and your crew have done!

Lily_love

Lily_love
Central, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 22, 2011
5:21 AM

Post #8708081

Dreaming, lalalalala (I've forgot most of the lyrics, but dreaming...lalalaalla) I'm dreaming. What's a wonderful project. Congrats Bea, and thank you for sharing your 'fun project.', and Jamison, please come down South to Alabama upon your return from Down Under. lol.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2011
5:35 AM

Post #8708098

Wow, what an amazing pond. Good job. I'm learning so much. Mostly, to hire Jamison, lol. I didn't know about the stratification thing, but my pond is only 21 inches deep. Can't wait to see it all done. I bet the fish will be so joyous to be in their new home.

SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2011
6:22 AM

Post #8708170

Looking great! It's been fun to watch the progress!
katie59
Woodinville, WA
(Zone 8b)

July 22, 2011
1:40 PM

Post #8709005

Bea, thanks for putting a link from the PNW forum to this thread. What an exciting adventure and it's so fun to watch the pieces come together.

Jam_session, you did such a great job.

I haven't ever really wanted a pond, but I've seen three great projects this year and have decided that I do want, eventually, to put in a stream bed with a couple of waterfalls that runs through the property. That running water over beautiful rock is just too hard to resist. The birds will love it.

Raccoons are a problem here, as are Great Blue Heron. My neighbor eliminated any graduated shelving for the Herons and Raccoons to sit on and has increased the depth of his pond, as well. he also put rebar at intervals around the edges and strung/strang/stringed (?) a couple of lines of wire that he can keep on full time but easily remove for parties or visits.

It's been cool here in Seattle (gets down to 50 at night) and wet in the PNW this summer, as Bea says, but we all hang outside as much as possible and generally sit by the pond. The lighting makes it a 24 hour possibility.

Wonderful project. I so look forward to seeing it with the plants in.
islandgirl37
Marathon, FL
(Zone 11)

July 22, 2011
3:44 PM

Post #8709251

Beautiful!!! Imagine what it will look like in a year or two when everything gets established. Stunning pond!! Congratulations.
shrubbs
Beavertown, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 23, 2011
3:22 PM

Post #8711102

jam_session wrote:Thanks MargaretK, my wife said she would love to come with me to Australia!

mstella, yes, we want to keep circulate everywhere to keep oxygen everywhere. No dead spots. The skimmer circulates effectively to 2 ft. deep, but Bea's pond is 3 ft. deep so we ran an outlet to the bottom. And yes that's like a bottom feeder to the skimmer, just the opposite direction. Besides, I'd rather not cut the liner below water level any more than I have to.


So do you have 2 separate pumps, one running the bottom outlet and one running the biofalls, or do you have an over-sized pump with a ball valve?

I asked because I designed a pond system in which I used 2 pumps in the skimmer box and a ball valve, one for the biofalls and one for an upper pool (ball valve for upper pool).

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jam_session
Woodburn, OR

July 23, 2011
8:23 PM

Post #8711593

shrubbs,
In BeaHive's pond, we have only one pump (Anjon Monsoon 6100), with a T in the line. A 2-inch pipe to the bio-filter/falls, and a 1" pipe (black sched. 40 flexible) with a ball valve, to the bottom. On that line, there are 3 small outlets. 1 pump or 2, same idea.
realsis

July 24, 2011
7:42 AM

Post #8712153

wonderful progress! how exciting! :) keep the pics comming! congrats on the beaitiful koi pond!
shrubbs
Beavertown, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 24, 2011
11:27 AM

Post #8712495

jam_session wrote:shrubbs,
In BeaHive's pond, we have only one pump (Anjon Monsoon 6100), with a T in the line. A 2-inch pipe to the bio-filter/falls, and a 1" pipe (black sched. 40 flexible) with a ball valve, to the bottom. On that line, there are 3 small outlets. 1 pump or 2, same idea.


Very cleaver. I never thought about installing a system like that before. As you said - a great idea for circulating the water at the bottom of a deeper pond. Great info to remember for a 3-4' deep kio pond I will be designing soon. Nice job on the pond. Thanks.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2011
7:16 PM

Post #8713255

Been busy getting some plants in. This is what was accomplished on friday 7/23.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8713258

This little one was checking out the menu!!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2011
7:20 PM

Post #8713261

St.Francis will enjoy the shade of the new maple tree.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2011
7:21 PM

Post #8713263

Friday evening I enjoyed a glass of wine by the pond. Nice!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2011
7:24 PM

Post #8713264

More neighbors stopped by to check out the new pond. Must buy more wine & beer if unexpected company keeps stopping by!! LOL!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2011
7:29 PM

Post #8713270

Tonight... ahhhh peace! Looking forward to the lights going in so I can enjoy the pond after dark!
The fish hopefully will transfer tomorrow. I have been waiting for the water to be all clear before releasing them. The water skeeters have found the pond and have been swimming all around. Not for long when the Koi get released. A tasty treat is waiting for them!!

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 24, 2011
8:36 PM

Post #8713348

Very nice, Bea. You should be happy with how things have been progressing.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 24, 2011
9:36 PM

Post #8713427

It is just gorgeous. And when the plants grow and soften it, ohhhhh, pond envy.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2011
5:55 PM

Post #8715056

The fish love their new home. Here is my favorite who I was able to catch on the last day before the move. He/she is so handsome or pretty!

They spent the first hour down at the bottom all huddled together. Then they all surfaced and investigated their home. They ate all the water skeeters too!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2011
5:56 PM

Post #8715061

Two more expoloring their new digs. They all ate a hearty dinnner tonight. They were so ready to get out of the holding tank!

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2011
6:09 PM

Post #8715083

Bea

They must have been fun to watch when you released them into their new home.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2011
6:14 PM

Post #8715094

They were. Freedom..they have been swimming all day. They are very happy. Twice last night I heard this loud banging coming from their aluminum metal trough that they have been staying in. I think they were trying to tell me it was time to get out!!
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2011
6:18 PM

Post #8715106

Lovely fish! Your pond cleared up quickly! Do you have any close-up photos of the stream?
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2011
6:53 PM

Post #8715192

Here is a pic of the stream just taken..

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2011
7:49 PM

Post #8715354

Your fish are beautiful. And you have been planting your heart out I see. Really coming along. I bet this is the most watched thread at DG! I know I can hardly wait for new pics.
shrubbs
Beavertown, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 26, 2011
4:03 AM

Post #8715740

Great view of the stream. It meanders nicely through the foliage. It is going to look sharp when the foliage fills in.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 26, 2011
4:52 AM

Post #8715775

Gorgeous, B. So what's with the shed? How do you get into it?
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

July 26, 2011
5:02 AM

Post #8715788

I love your step by step pictures! What a fantastic pond! Enjoy... :)
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2011
5:34 AM

Post #8715827

Mrs. Ed..through the door of course!! LOL! There is a pathway in front of the shed which will be paved soon. Pond area sits higher than the shed area..two tiers .. Once pavers are done I will take more pictures.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 26, 2011
10:06 AM

Post #8716308

Bea

I loved your previous pond, but this one far trumps that one. Absolutely gorgeous!
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

July 26, 2011
10:43 AM

Post #8716351

OH GREAT ONE (MissBeahive) that is a most awesome, well planned, future blissfull cup of coffee location I have seen. How are you not going to sleep next to it for the rest of the summer? I am glad I have been gone not to have anxiously awaited its final placement of rock. You are the best! May you catch more than fish in the garden of your heart. Loveing a garden is the best soulmate you could have. Yours is truely a work of ART. I have 3 garden water features and cannot leave water in any of them due to misquitos being bred like crazy. My water either evaporates when in Motion or stagnates with lots of Mishatesoos.
I did get some rocks yesterday that I found in an old mine on national forest. Each one is over 1 ton and there are at least 10 more waiting for me to get.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2011
11:06 AM

Post #8716388

Thanks all for your kind words. Sofer it is a great place for a cup of coffee in the morning, lemonade in the afternoon and of course a galss of wine in the evening. I am not sure about sleeping out there as there are lots of night critters in this new neighborhood. Love the rocks you brought home. What are your plans for them? Hope your GD is doing better and able to enjoy her summer laughing, playing and smiling!
Soferdig
Kalispell, MT
(Zone 4b)

July 26, 2011
11:26 AM

Post #8716440

I am making a "fort" with a pond for my grand children. It will be a circle of large bolders with benches inside that they can sit on and play in the water with smooth river rocks on the bottom and large flat smooth rocks to rest their feet on while sitting. Of course my wife and I will use this for our morning coffee to enjoy the warm water and foot soak in our preparation of our garden work day and a glass of wine while we sit and watch the sunset at the end of our day. The water will have several fountains to encourage fresh flow and joyous play in the sun with our grandchildrens screams of joy in chasing the gold fish we will place in there to make them happy. I will be describing this when we get the rest of the rocks from our quarry in the mountains this summer. Don't want to take over this one.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2011
2:42 PM

Post #8716789

Sounds wonderful! Looking forward to your posts when the project begins.
sunnyg
San Francisco Bay Ar, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 26, 2011
6:12 PM

Post #8717181

It's looking wonderful! I'm sure you'll have some new froggy friends in no time at all! :-)
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 29, 2011
7:00 PM

Post #8724255

Hey BeaHive, I haven't had my pond fix for the day, at least since the 25th. How's it looking? Your pond keeps my spirits up about the condition of mine.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 29, 2011
8:40 PM

Post #8724458

Will try to get some pic's tomorrow .The planting is on hold now as I am having trouble working the soil.
Jamison if you read this before I see you monday..we need to work on improving the soil around the pond. My rock collection is growing and growing !!
Plan on an extra debris box to remove these piles of dirt & stuff . I do not want to re-purpose it to the front yard as originally planned.. I want some nice, light,fluffy compost to plant in please. My back is killing me. Bring back the bobcat and take this clay- rocky soil away...please... Thanks :)

Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 29, 2011
9:04 PM

Post #8724502

ROTFL...My landscaper dug up the pond and used that for the surrounds. so I have been attempting to plant in a rock bed also. could shoot him. He but bark on top of it to make it even worse. I have a sieve I built and have been sieving bark and rock. Ran out of places to put it. Plus hauling in bags and bags of soil. I can sympathize. Pond builders aren't always gardeners. No offense Jamison...
jam_session
Woodburn, OR

July 29, 2011
10:43 PM

Post #8724627

I hear you, Miss Bea. I'll plant to bring some compost for the back yard next week. And as for the front yard, we could till compost and sand into the clay, say 1/3 each, and remove many rocks? Such a blend would hold water and nutrients better, and cost less. Or we can take it all away and start fresh. Your wish is my command :)
mstella, No offense taken; you are right. Pond builders are not always gardeners. And gardeners are not always pondbuilders! BTW, was it you who asked how thick the pond liner is? It is .45 mil EPDM rubber.
jam_session
Woodburn, OR

July 29, 2011
11:01 PM

Post #8724648

I'm sure you can't overpower a 48" uv light with 2900 gph, and that's good that you upsized your pipe. But I have some questions: how much head height do you have? The 4' depth doesn't count, because the pump doesn't have to work to lift water in the pipe to the height of the pond, only to lift it higher than the pond. Do you change your uv light yearly? Do you ever look to see if it needs to be cleaned? Do you clean out your pressure filter yearly? Do you add pond bacteria to your pond, like Aqua One? And if so, do you turn off your uv light for a day or two so you don't kill the bacteria as soon as you add it?
and thanks for the compliments on Bea's pond.
Never been to Alaska. Do you have to keep a heater in the pond? how long?
jam_session
Woodburn, OR

July 29, 2011
11:20 PM

Post #8724657

Oops, yeah. That last post was for mstella.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
5:48 AM

Post #8724800

Sand added to clay can = cement. I think we better start fresh. Our dry season is coming to an end and I would like to get all the plants I brought from the old house in the ground before the rain begins. It will never happen if I am fighting with every hole I dig. I have also ordered 2000 red worms to add around the yard. I have only found three worms in a month. Not good. :)

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2011
6:25 AM

Post #8724898

OMG, Jamison. please come to my house!!!!!!!

Bea, I'll trade you some worms for Jamison. LOL. You're certainly worth more than worms, but that's about all I have to offer!
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2011
9:25 AM

Post #8725224

Morning all, I overslept. ahem...accidently deleted this first time around. I also have lots of wigglers. found one so long once that I thought it was a snake and almost soiled myself. No snakes in Alaska.

Jamison, you are a man of many questions. All good ones. As soon as I get a cup of coffee and my brain is firing on all cylinders (or as many as I have left) I will answer.

D tested the thruput coming through the pressure filter and UV and determined that indeed it was pitiful. We have the new tubing and are waiting for the 1 1/2" pressure adapter fittings to install. Very hard to find online and none up here. Lots of places won't ship to Alaska and if they do they want three times the cost of the product for shipping.

But, while we flush the pressure filter regularly, I think I will take it apart and see what is in the bottom. D says it doesn't have anything to do with the thruput loss as the gunk sinks to the bottom and would only affect the efficacy of the bioballs if they are sitting in mud. I clean it out thoroughly each fall in prep for storage and it is always a mess.
Mary
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2011
12:38 PM

Post #8725552

Okay. Coffee'd up, read my morning allotment, garden pictures taken, now to answer questions: Oh, my first Anna Epple water lily bloomed. I figured I wouldn't have any this year as things have been so slow.

My guess would be about 3' additional head above the pond surface, thence through the 55W UV, then through the Pressure filter, then back through about 5' of pipe to dump into the upper falls. the pipe is all corrugated so I assume there is a little loss there due to friction. The new pipe is smooth inside.

D is of the mind that since it (UV) only operates maybe 5-6 months of the year he doesn't need to trade it out each year. I don't think he checks the UV in the pressure filter as he hates to go through the process of extracting it. I will pull it today and look. the other UV is new and has been in operation only a short time. We bought a replacement for it already ($69.00).

Damien does the flushing as I said on the pressure filter and I completely disassemble it each fall, clean it and store it in the garage with the top slightly askew per directions.

I feed the pond with a low temp bacteria toward the end of fall (MicrobeLift Fall/winter) and being in about March or April with Spring/Summer, also a low temp activated bacteria. I start MicrobeLiftPL as soon as temps allow. I am careful to turn off the UV's for the three days or so it requires so I don't kill off the good guys until they get a good start. I go through this at least three for four times each spring.

In the fall we pull the UV's and all but one pump. We have experimented with various methods of keeping up flow to encourage oxygen levels. There is no issue with 'strata's as the pond at 4' isn't deep enough. It is a solid 33F all winter. I sink a thermometer on a rock to be sure. We run three deicers to keep holes open, and have pumped from the shallow end (until the ice cap got so thick it threatened the pump) around the pond to the lower falls to get a little agitation. We have decided to just run a pump toward the middle end to avoid the ice cap which is unpredictable, to circulate the water at the bottom. Our concern is that the fish like to sleep in the deep caves and we have lost larger fish. We think they all cram in there and go dormant right through oxygen deprivation which takes out the big guys first. Only speculation. I lost no fish last winter including two 12-14" ones. biggest I had last spring. they are all growing like mad now, and I have four new koi that are also getting bigger.

that's about it.

Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2011
4:48 PM

Post #8725996

Reinesse

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2011
4:50 PM

Post #8725999

Noid Lily and Daisy

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2011
4:51 PM

Post #8726000

Oh piffle. I meant to post these on the lily thread not here. Sorry.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
7:17 PM

Post #8726333

Thats Ok. Beautiful pic & flower combination...
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
7:59 PM

Post #8726406

Baby deer resting in the shade over in the nieghboors yard.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
8:00 PM

Post #8726409

The koi tonight swimming around.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
8:01 PM

Post #8726411

They know it its dinner time.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
8:03 PM

Post #8726412

This hosta/fern/water hyacinth combo is looking great in their new pond.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
8:04 PM

Post #8726413

This mallard pair found a cozy nook to settle into.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
8:06 PM

Post #8726414

Sweetpea and Blossom like their new yard. Lot's of new sights,sounds and smells to explore.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
8:07 PM

Post #8726416

Just had to share this piece of beauty.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2011
8:08 PM

Post #8726418

All is calm at Bea's house tonight.

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
4:29 AM

Post #8726841

Bea

Simply gorgeous. I love your shishui like fish and your yard looks like a real haven - especially after a long day.

Pet the puppies for me.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
5:41 AM

Post #8726905

You really had me going with the ducks. I was stunned that you would have mallards finding you pond and settling in. the hosta/ferns will actually live with their pots in the water? I would have thought it would be too wet. It all looks just heavenly. You and Jamison are a great team for producing a perfect pond garden.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 31, 2011
5:52 AM

Post #8726920

LOL with the mallards... I have had great sucess with hostas in my pond. Most are bare root just stuck inbetween rocks. Cut them back in the fall and they have come back every season. The one in the photo is in a pot as it moved with us. I will most likely split it up and remove the soil at the end of this season. Some for the yard and some for the pond. The fern is one that can take moisture according to the plant tag. (to early and not enough coffee yet to remember name). Hoping it works out...if not off to the shady part of the yard..

bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

July 31, 2011
6:04 AM

Post #8726935

Bea,
How long is the whole pond? It looks like the creek I had seen in one of a vacation site!! If we ever go to Oregon to play golf can I come to see it? LOL!!! In fact we were in Texas for 3 weeks in April and May and played in 3 cities. i think we played 12-15 times.

Absolutely gorgeous and relaxing. Do you have mosquitoes there? We have tons here but i use mosquito coils.


Belle
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 31, 2011
6:11 AM

Post #8726946

The stream is 25ft long and the pond is 20 ft long x 12 ft wide. Your welcome to come for a vistit if you come to Oregon. We do have mosquitos in OR but they do not seem do be a problem in the pond as the fish will eat them and their larve. Standing water is where they breed, so elimate that in the yard and you will be Ok.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
6:42 AM

Post #8727002

Mary

I know there were discussions about hostas in ponds quite awhile ago. I have not tried it myself, but really love the look. Here is the discussion. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/756378/?hl=hosta

It seems to me that SongsofJoy had no problems with the hostas coming back the following year... Songs if you are lurking - give us a heads up on how your hostas have done over the years in your pond.

Carolyn
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
9:19 AM

Post #8727306

thanks Carolyn. I will take a look at the thread. I know I couldn't keep them in the pond overwinter. At least I don't think they would live, although they do live quite nicely in the ground. I would think that their roots would freeze and die, or maybe the crown would freeze and die. Although I was amazed that water celery roots down in the rock survived and came back after this long hard winter. I thought I had dug it completely out.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

July 31, 2011
10:34 AM

Post #8727474

Carolyn,/ mstella,
I went back to read the thread and songs of joy has good luck overwintering hostas. I had not tried it because my pond is saturated with plants. I know for sure that elephant ears does very well during summer but does not over winter.

I agree with water celery I had to remove more this morning. Last spring it covered the water fall.

Bea,
I sure will come and see your pond if there are clubs we can play at.

Belle

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
12:06 PM

Post #8727686

I would expect WC to be invasive in your warm environs in VB, Virginia. Just judging by how it grows here. I really thought that the temps, ice, etc would kill it so wasn't worried. I think the roots went deep into the rock below the ice. It came back on both sides of the pond. Actually I am rather happy as our growing season is so short that to have a nice water plant that is vigorous is good. And the winter will always slap it back down.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

July 31, 2011
1:17 PM

Post #8727801

I think this is also edible because it looks like the Italian celery in the market. It is hard to kill it , I had this for years.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
2:23 PM

Post #8727946

Well, D vetoed the ferns. Some of them (their roots) escaped a bed by our sidewalk which is asphalt and broke up through the asphalt and was working its way across. I dug it all out broke the connection to mama, then poured brush killer in the cracks to assure no pieces of root survived. He says those roots could push over the rock. I find that hard to believe but he is the engineer, not me.

Know anyone who lives in Wyoming? D was looking there as a possible place to retire.
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
3:32 PM

Post #8728135

Yes, the hostas survive my 5b winter in the pond. I've had two in there for 3 or 4 years now.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
3:42 PM

Post #8728166

3-4 years. Sounds like it's worth a try Mary...

Songs - thank you (good to hear from you!)
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
4:24 PM

Post #8728230

Thanks, Carolyn. I do find that my pond hostas don't get very big though. I think they tend to be a few weeks behind my garden hostas because the water doesn't warm us as quickly as the ground in the spring. Still, I like having them in the pond.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
4:45 PM

Post #8728288

SongsofJoy, did the plants actually freeze. Like they get covered with snow and such? New Hampshire is pretty cold in winter I thought.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 31, 2011
5:11 PM

Post #8728324

Oh man, B, that's so great looking. You've inspired me again, I keep thinking I need to expand! LOL. I need to find some strong young dudes to come do the work for me.

SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
5:26 PM

Post #8728341

Yes, they freeze solid. I am sure the entire rootball is encased in ice all winter yet they survive.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

July 31, 2011
5:42 PM

Post #8728378

Bellieg..I am not a golfer(except mini golf) but there are courses here in Oregon. Finding a non rainy day is the trick! Plan a summer visit and your odds will be better to complete 18 holes!

Thanks Marna.. Yes the young strong men sure come in handy during times like these. Missing my frogs... Jamison..ya know any creeks with an abundance of tadpoles or frogs. Bet your kids would love to go go frog catching... I can pay them for their efforts... My neighbor has a pond I found out and he says...no frogs. So sad...

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2011
5:52 PM

Post #8728414

Well, SofJ, I will give it a try, at least with the hosta. Thanks
islandgirl37
Marathon, FL
(Zone 11)

August 2, 2011
1:08 PM

Post #8732293

BeaHive wrote:All is calm at Bea's house tonight.


WOW!! It's just beautiful!!!
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 2, 2011
10:49 PM

Post #8733501

The Bobcat was back today and kept very busy. The old yucky dirt was hauled away to the front yard. Pick up tomorrow. Thank goodness there is a use for fill dirt.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 2, 2011
10:52 PM

Post #8733502

The bobcat moved dirt from the lower yard to the upper yard.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 2, 2011
10:53 PM

Post #8733503

The "baby" bobcat then takes the dirt out of the side yard to the front yard.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 2, 2011
10:54 PM

Post #8733505

A hard days work getting all this dirt moved. If you were a plant would you want to grow in this? Bye Bye--

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 2, 2011
10:58 PM

Post #8733508

The lawn art was moved to a new location today to make room for all the dirt. Just love it and I can view it from the kitchen window. Lovely!

Jamison the cleaning company came tonight and did thier magic. Clean bathroom for the gang tomorrow. LOL!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 2, 2011
11:01 PM

Post #8733512

The gravel underlayment was started today for the paths around the garden. They are going to be a beautiful cobblestone type path. Can't wait!

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MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

August 2, 2011
11:21 PM

Post #8733524

BeaHive, this is the most fascinating work in progress. When you moved to the new house, did you look at what was in front of you and have a clear picture in your mind of the finished project?
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 3, 2011
2:59 AM

Post #8733647

I was just wondering what your new neighbors thought...
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

August 3, 2011
4:25 AM

Post #8733711

Beahive,


I don't think I saw a picture of your new house.

Thank you for sharing the excitement with us.

As far as golf, I think we will not play out of state till next year. We are very busy in our home club. Furthermore we have to check if there are clubs associated with Club Corp otherwise it will not be affordable at all. It will run us lots of $$$ to play.

Keep the pictures coming

Belle
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

August 3, 2011
6:29 AM

Post #8733890

What great pics you all have! Just got back from my Ohio trip...ahhh, I get zone envy everytime I go back. But, I also know I have tropical blessings my sister doesn't have! Hope you all have had productive weeks.
:)
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

August 3, 2011
7:01 AM

Post #8733959

I can't get over all the rock. for that matter, I can't get over the scope of the entire project. You mentioned the bathroom. Does that mean that the interior of the house needed as much tlc as the outside? You mentioned getting a house a little less than you wanted so you could get the amount of ground you wanted. Absolutely facinating...
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

August 3, 2011
7:12 AM

Post #8733982

Watching in wonder. Yeehaw!!!!
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2011
9:06 AM

Post #8734157

The interior of the house was all rennovated when I bought it. New kitchen,new master bath, updated guest bath,floors ,carpet,tile,paint,furnace ..it was all done. Of course there are things I would have done differently, but for now everthing is in doable.
From what the neighbors have told me, this place was a real mess for many, many years. They all seem to be happy that we moved in and giving some love to this place. Helps their property values also.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2011
8:14 PM

Post #8735644

The crew worked very hard today and even arrived early. They are fantastic. 1st the old dirt was taken away with two full truck loads. Bye Bye!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2011
8:16 PM

Post #8735649

It was a very messy job to load the truck.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2011
8:23 PM

Post #8735657

10 yards of new soil/compost mix was delivered and dispersed. Can't wait until I can get my hands in that soil and get my plants into the ground. My 2000 worms arrived today. They are waiting to get set free soon. Next surprise was the pavers. Jamison picked these up after lunch today. They are very pretty. 10 more yards of soil coming tomorrow to finish the beds in the back and for the front yard as well.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2011
8:26 PM

Post #8735663

All is calm tonight. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings...

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Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

August 5, 2011
4:28 AM

Post #8738140

Neither can I. This project is so exciting!!!

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2011
8:49 AM

Post #8738513

Its amazing what can be accomplished so quickly with some good man- and motor- power.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
11:51 AM

Post #8738825

Yep.. they are laying the pavers now. They are beautiful. Pics to come later..

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2011
1:56 PM

Post #8738926

*dreamy eyes*
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:25 PM

Post #8739180

The pathway begins...

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:26 PM

Post #8739181

The bracing is placed as they move along.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:27 PM

Post #8739184

Excuse the hose ...made it to the pond in no time.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:29 PM

Post #8739185

Team effort starts on the back side of the pond. Maybe because it was shady there this afternoon. :)

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:30 PM

Post #8739189

As of 5pm this afternoon. Isn't it wonderful. No muddy feet this winter!

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:31 PM

Post #8739193

As of 5pm this afternoon ..backside of pond

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Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2011
5:31 PM

Post #8739194

It just keeps getting more and more spectacular. I'm really turning so green with envy!
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:33 PM

Post #8739199

Side view of path near side shed. Next week they will cut the irregular shapes and fill with sand between the cracks.

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BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2011
5:37 PM

Post #8739206

Work also began on the front yard. The base of the path was laid. More to come on that project. It will be less elaborate than the back until I see what the deer will mess up and $$ is available for more.

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sunnyg
San Francisco Bay Ar, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 5, 2011
6:06 PM

Post #8739272

It's looking great!
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

August 5, 2011
10:55 PM

Post #8739611

Un fing believable...It is soooo like what I wanted and didn't get. You have done a superlative job in ramrodding this and getting what you wanted...many kudooos.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 6, 2011
6:58 AM

Post #8739877

Ditto to a great job. Earlier this year I said I had built my last pond (actually by myself-type built), but after seeing this I'm really thinking of expanding/redoing! Darn it. Maybe I should stop watching these threads. ;)
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

August 6, 2011
8:27 AM

Post #8739961

I think that Bea has single handedly raised the GNP on pond building by a bunch.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 6, 2011
2:59 PM

Post #8740646

Jamison will be available soon. :)
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

August 6, 2011
4:40 PM

Post #8740785

Wish I could hire him but DH says 'enough is enough!' Umm. guess that means no. lol

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 6, 2011
4:52 PM

Post #8740799

oh, I'd hire him, after I win the lottery.


BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 11, 2011
9:29 PM

Post #8751497

Well the pond is completed. The lighting was finished today. I waited patiently tonight for darkness to come and the lights to go on. I have to tell you that it looks so beautiful rather than show you as my nighttime photography sadly is horrible. There are three underwater light in the pond, three lights under water in the stream, 4 brass landscape lights around the pond and 2 up-lights beneath the red maple trees.
I wish you all were here to see what a wonderful work of art this is. The koi are doing their happy dance tonight!! I will have my daughter try to take some pic's tomorrow night when she is done with her finals. Maybe she will have better luck than I. I will try to get some daytime pic's tomorrow as I now begin all the planting in the yard.

Many thanks to Jamison & your wonderful crew for a job well done. Looking forward to our get together with all the families & friends for a BBQ to celebrate your wonderful vision, hard work, and dedication ! You deserve to show it off!!

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2011
10:59 PM

Post #8751553

It is a beautiful picture. the red leaves are stunning. Wish I could have lights on, in, or near my pond but with our constant light you couldn't see them anyway. by the time you could it is late fall and not much point. Kind of ruins fireworks on July 4th also.
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

August 12, 2011
4:32 AM

Post #8751672

He definitely does deserve to show it off. Well done'!!!!!!!!
Enjoy it for many years to come.
islandgirl37
Marathon, FL
(Zone 11)

August 12, 2011
6:41 PM

Post #8752877

Incredibly beautiful!!! This is such a fun thread, seeing it progress from start to finish.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 12, 2011
9:21 PM

Post #8753080

well my portion of this lovely project is on hold for a while. i took a fall today crushing boxes for recycle. it was a large box that I recieved two crape myrtle tree's in and it was giving me a hard time. i jumped on it a few times and it would not crush...but one last try finally crushed it to my surpise down i went with it. just came back from the ER and thank goodness no broken bones. i do have contusions on my forearm and elbow and lots of pain when i move this arm. no digging for awhile. just hope i can do some one arm watering tomorrow to keep thing alive until i heal. one handed typing is not so fun either. will try to heal quickly and keep this project going. i am so bummed about this.
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

August 13, 2011
4:23 AM

Post #8753279

Oh, dearie, heal well. One- handed watering and admiring your new oasis is on the order of the day.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

August 13, 2011
5:42 AM

Post #8753360

That's awful, BeaHive. I'm glad nothing was broken and here's hoping the bruising heals quickly. I believe chardonnay is very good for bruises, so sit back and with your one good hand, toast a wonderful project completed. Congratulations to Jamison and crew. What a wonderful work ethic they have.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 13, 2011
7:12 AM

Post #8753540

thank jan & margaret. it still is very stiff and sore this am. i am more of a merlot & cabernet lady...but if ya think it will work i am willing to give the chardonnay a try too!! lol! off to see if i can get a few things watered. good thing i had the hose out yesterday and couldn't roll it up to put it away . that should help some.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

August 13, 2011
8:23 AM

Post #8753609

Awful!! Glad nothing id broken. Warm baths should help with tylenol. Take care.

Bellie
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2011
8:28 AM

Post #8753615

Bea

so glad nothing is broken. You need to sit by your new creation and just heal. I hope you are feeling better soon.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 13, 2011
8:31 AM

Post #8753622

Margaret probably would normally suggest champagne, perhaps she was starting you out on the light dose.

I myself prefer chocolate for my achiness!

Move slowly and take it easy.

Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2011
8:46 AM

Post #8753648

I was just reading and noticed all the different states and places your wellwishers lived. What a hoot. Who can claim to have so many friends who live so widely apart. Like the biggest Kaffe Klatche in the world. Literally.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 13, 2011
10:11 AM

Post #8753774

yes i have met some very nice people from all around the county and the world here on dg. well the hose took out a few daylilly fans that were newly planted yesterday..before the fall. one handed watering is a struggle. have not put out my hose guards yet... need to get that done soon. mrs ed..i will try the chocoate too...if i can get my daughter to take me to the store later..lol! i do have some chocolate chips for baking ..maybe i can pretend that they are little pain pills! dr offered a rx for vicodin, but i don't mess with that stuff. tylenol wine & chocolate will have to do it for me. thanks for all your well wishes everyone.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2011
12:29 PM

Post #8753983

Vicodin puts me to sleep - tylenol and chocolate work well for me as well. I have an excellent recipe for some cranberry nut bark that is both white and semi sweet chocolate. Let me know if you want it - perhaps you can get your daughter to whip it up - only takes about 60 seconds in the microwave...

Here's to feeling better.

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 13, 2011
12:30 PM

Post #8753985

And dangle your feet in your pond!

So have you every tried Chocovine? A couple of years ago I was at a liquor store and these female associates had cracked a bottle open to sample they were ooing and aaahing and told me I had to try it. It's spectacular. Sounds like it would not be, but I highly recommend it. It's nice over ice at the end of a meal and also good drizzled on ice cream.

BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 15, 2011
8:10 PM

Post #8758573

Good thing I haven't been able to get this area planted yet. Look who is calling it home tonight.Ahhh nothing like a soft bed of compost!!

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MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

August 15, 2011
10:00 PM

Post #8758801

It feels safe there, with St Francis keeping vigil.
NativeVA
Craig Co., VA
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2011
8:17 AM

Post #8764607

Bea (or maybe Jamison),

I'm planning my pond and stream for next year. So I can compare it to yours:

What was the final size of the pond length and width?
Deepest part?
How long is the stream?
Do you know what the final gallons were?
Plant shelf width and depth?

Thanks
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 19, 2011
10:55 AM

Post #8764857

I will answer what I can.



What was the final size of the pond length and width? : 12' wide by 20' length.
Deepest part? 3ft
How long is the stream? 25ft
Do you know what the final gallons were? 2100?? Jamison??
Plant shelf width and depth? 1-1/2 ft wide about 6-12" deep.?? Jamison
mittsy
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

August 19, 2011
11:51 AM

Post #8764940

Thanks so much for sharing your lovely pictures of the pond building.
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 24, 2011
5:50 PM

Post #8775240

BeaHive,
Your pond is lovely but wouldn't want to deal with those large boulders here in Fl. as the cost to ship in would be prohibitive. My first pond has Tenn. field stone around it and down the sides which were enough for me to handle. I was fortunate to buy it from a man that got rid of his pond for $400. I am now starting a second pond and little brook between a smaller pond. I am 74 so have slowed down a bit but I have a small Kubota with a bucket which is definitely my best friend. I've dug the ditches for electrical and plumbing which my husb. does (aren't shovels great) so I do a little ea. day as the heat here now is oppressive. My question for you is what kind of koi is your favorite blue one? I think it is just beautiful. I have 1 gold, 1 silver and 1 black & orange that were my first ones so now they are over a foot long. The others are not butterfly and black and orange and assorted gold fish which I want to remove to second pond oh plus a fat oranda my son added. They have made it through 2 very cold winters for Florida that is. My pond is 22" deep I just kept digging and thats what it ended up.Next pond will only be 18" deep with a little brook and then into another smaller pond which will accomodate skimmer with pump down inside. I bought a tiered concrete fountain from a friend for $25. which I am going to antique and it will set it upper pond and overflow. Finally my husb. has been bit by the ponding bug so he wants to do that part so I said go for it as long as it looks the way I want it to thats fine. I wa nt to keep the first pond for just koi. If you can put a name on that blue koi I will contact fish farms around me and see if I can find one. Happy ponding, Bonnie
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 24, 2011
7:36 PM

Post #8775410

I have no idea about my blue koi except that they are beautiful. They were lighter blue , almost translucent when I first got them 4 years ago and I felt they were kinda ugly. They turned from ugly ducklings to beautiful swans. Sound like you and your husband will be busy for a long while creating all your lovely ponds. Feel free to print the picture of the koi to show your local fish farms..maybe they can Identify it for you.
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

August 25, 2011
8:36 AM

Post #8776035

BonnieG,
Most blue koi are either shushui or asagi. The one's above look more like shusui (meaning blue with larger scales of dark running down the spine) Both types can have some red.
If you're patient, and not in a rush for any, I will continue to watch my fry and see if there are a few blue in the mix. You are welcome to one or 2 of them, and you're certainly close enough that I won't have to ship them.
:)
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 25, 2011
6:27 PM

Post #8777018

Merry,
I'm about 15 mins. from you. I would be overjoyed to buy one from you.
BTW Hope you are planning to attend my plant roundup Oct. 22. Please do come if you can. I've only been to one but boy did I enjoy it. I drove 118 miles but it was well worth it.
See you later. Bonnie
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 25, 2011
6:39 PM

Post #8777043

BeaHive,
I usually can get the pond dug in a day and lilner 45M EPDM put in. Husb. put in all the elec. today.
Got rain on and off today due to outer bands of hurricane Irene. Happy to get the rain cause it makes my plants happy and I don't have to turn on my irrigation system which I also put in myself. I research a subject and then go for it. Front yard is 350 feet and has 84 sprinkler heads and 8 large rotors. Only problem I had with first pond was sand caving in while digging. This time I'll line it and hold lilner in place with cement blocks until I can add water. My PC is printing very slow so thats all for now. Bonnie
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

August 25, 2011
8:07 PM

Post #8777191

Bonnie you sound like an awesome lady! I am 20 years younger than you and would not have the strength to dig all the trenches necessry for an irragattion system..lord knows I need one now with this wonderful new yard. Taking out 8 oak trees ate the budget for that!! For now I will lug the hoses around and hand water. Thank God we have a long rainy season here in the PNW. Stay safe with the hurricane. Hoping all our friends on the EC will be safe!!
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

August 26, 2011
11:57 AM

Post #8778208

Bonnie...If any of them end up even slightly blueish, I will GIVE them to you, not sell them to you! Just remember, they are small, only 3-4 inches at this point. I usually keep a handful of fry from my spawn, and then hand out the rest to fellow ponders.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

October 7, 2011
2:55 PM

Post #8839919


How about an update, BeaHive? What's happening?
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

October 7, 2011
3:01 PM

Post #8839926

that's what I was wondering. Realizing that she was severely slowed down by her accident.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

October 7, 2011
3:14 PM

Post #8839929

Accident?
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

October 7, 2011
3:41 PM

Post #8839950

Oh. Bernadette was trying to tromp on some large cardboard boxes...Well, here it is 'in her own words'

"It ook a fall today crushing boxes for recycle. it was a large box that I recieved two crape myrtle tree's in and it was giving me a hard time. i jumped on it a few times and it would not crush...but one last try finally crushed it to my surpise down i went with it. just came back from the ER and thank goodness no broken bones. i do have contusions on my forearm and elbow and lots of pain when i move this arm. no digging for awhile. just hope i can do some one arm watering tomorrow to keep thing alive until i heal. one handed typing is not so fun either. will try to heal quickly and keep this project going. i am so bummed about this. "

Happened some time in August.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

October 7, 2011
5:20 PM

Post #8840078

Oh I do remember that. Glad it's not something additional to that event.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

October 7, 2011
5:30 PM

Post #8840096

Hi all.. yep Jamison & crew finshed aug 11 and I fell the morning of Aug 12 and messed up my arm. It has taken a while for it to heal but I am very happy to report I am at about 95% today. The first few weeks I could not do much at all. My daughter even had to brush my hair back for me everyday. ( I wear pony tails most days!!) After that I became a pro at 1 armed gardening. It took me a long time to dig holes,but I finally got all my plants in the ground that I brought with me from my last house. That was a sight to see when i was doing the larger containers. LOL! Anyway feeling better now that most of the front & back yard are planted. Waiting for some late bulb orders to arrive and then to be planted. (rainy season has started). The pond was netted last week after our first storm. OMG. There are many oak trees on this property and at my neighbors. The pond looks kind of depressing with the netting, so I think pictures will wait until spring.
Here is a pic of the front yard progress. Plants are small and mostly trimmed back for the winter,but try to imagine digging all the holes one handed and wrestling plants out of their pots. I am sure if any neighbors were watching this, they had a good laugh. I did! :)

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

October 7, 2011
5:48 PM

Post #8840140

I can already see how beautiful your yard will be. You are one determined lady -- one armed no less! Glad you are on the mend.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

October 7, 2011
6:12 PM

Post #8840202

BeaHive, you poor thing. I'm glad you're on the mend. Your front yard already looks lovely and I look forward to seeing updates as things grow.
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

October 8, 2011
1:56 PM

Post #8840977

Bea,
If your neighbors were watching you they should have been over at your place helping you plant. I'm a firm believer in helping others especially when physically inhibited. Hope you heal up completely soon.
Bonnie
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

October 8, 2011
2:37 PM

Post #8841016

I agree, even if you are a new neighbor. You are obviously bring jup the value the entire neighborhood. Plus, it's fun! :)
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

October 8, 2011
5:58 PM

Post #8841232

Thanks all. The neighbors are very happy that I moved here and have been giving some love to this property. It was vacant for several years and a mess. Wait till they see all the flowers next year.They will be even happier.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

October 8, 2011
6:02 PM

Post #8841242

My heavens. The contrast will shock them. May also inspire them...
mittsy
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

October 9, 2011
2:45 AM

Post #8841593

i love that HGTV The block show where they spend $20, 000 fixing up one house on the block with two other $1000 updates. It really does give the entire neighborhood a face lift. I have a friend in Fl that plants medians and cul de sacs undercover of darkness. He has done an amazing job transforming some eyesores. He inspired me to plant annuals around some signs and fireplug decorating a vacant lot and dog walk area. It amazed me to encounter a gentleman who told me he'd water after we left to keep them going as long as possible. He could barely walk himself, let alone his dog.
GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

October 13, 2011
12:02 AM

Post #8847075

wonderful pond story.. nothng assures success like a good foundation ..and you've built alot of it into the pond and surrounds.. a true art meets technology... in nature story... good work the vision... the expertice... the labor ...all coming together ...
I know.. if you have to ask... I saw size and volume discussed... was there a price that it seemed to have run.. total landscaping and pond..
with 50 acres and a bobcat... I'd never have a minute of free time to work.. maybe somewhere ..someday..
beautiful blue koi... did you give it a name... will you set up a breedng situation for them there..
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

May 15, 2012
6:20 PM

Post #9125318

Hi Everyone...just a new picture of the back yard & pond. It is really coming to life now. All the Koi survived the winter and were enjoying our warmer weather. Mothers day the fish would not come out of their castle for feeding. Today they emerged but one is missing. There is no visable disturbance in the pond area...so I think one may have been gobbled up by a heron or perhaps a hawk as there are many in the area. Darn! I am hoping it is hiding still.

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bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

May 15, 2012
6:45 PM

Post #9125346

It is beautiful!!!

Belle
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

May 15, 2012
7:03 PM

Post #9125358

My God, it's gorgeous.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

May 15, 2012
7:16 PM

Post #9125376

It is indeed gorgeous!! Just perfect.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

May 16, 2012
1:25 AM

Post #9125588

Bea

He may still show up - just late to dinner!

Mrs_Ed

Mrs_Ed
Whiteside County, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 16, 2012
5:00 AM

Post #9125646

spectacular.
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

May 16, 2012
6:25 AM

Post #9125759

WOW and double WOW! Love this!!!
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

May 16, 2012
8:26 AM

Post #9125919

How about a new thread - Part II ? 282 is a lot to open.
BeaHive
Dallas, OR
(Zone 8a)

May 16, 2012
11:19 AM

Post #9126096

The project continues (part 2)

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1258529/

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