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edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 8, 2011
5:14 PM

Post #8681021

Any suggestions for planting a beautyberry?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 9, 2011
6:29 AM

Post #8681690

Are you looking for suggestions as to watering, exposure, size???

Allow a lot of room for it! You can take cuttings and they will grow. I did it in spring.
edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 9, 2011
4:29 PM

Post #8682643

Well, I just planted it, as I said on the other post and I think I may actually try some cuttings. My wife and I both love this plant.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 9, 2011
5:09 PM

Post #8682706

Cuttings from non-flowering branches, about 6" long, plunged into the soft soil, should result in a rooted cutting within a few weeks. If you see new growth on top (brighter green leaves) you can feel safe that it's rooted.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 9, 2011
5:11 PM

Post #8682710

Last one - see the bright green new leaves?

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edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 9, 2011
6:20 PM

Post #8682811

I need you to teach me how to do that. I'd like to do it with some of my other plants too. The Phlox is another one I'd like more of.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 9, 2011
6:37 PM

Post #8682834

The only phlox I have ever cut up to move is creeping phlox. Typical tall phlox can be lifted and divided - just break it apart and plant each section where you want it - no challenge there. I do it only after it has bloomed for the year so cut it back to two or three inches to make it less of a hassle.

I'll take more cuttings of the Callicarpa (Beauty Bush) tomorrow to show you how I do it. I've also done it with Crape Myrtle and a zillion hydrangeas...well, less than a zillion...would you believe 200? Yes!
edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 9, 2011
7:19 PM

Post #8682911

Oh my gosh, that's another one I want to do. We have three different types of hydrangeas and I want more...many more. I think we have two different types of mopheads and one oak.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 9, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8682928

I'll show you hydrangea cuttings as well.
edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 10, 2011
11:31 AM

Post #8684147

Can I grow hydrangeas in containers? I have two that are in containers now and are doing well and love their location. It's by a tree though and I don't want to have them competing for water.

Also, none of my hydrangeas have done well. They have done better in mostly shade. Is that normal? I see others around town in full sun. I don't get it.

This message was edited Jul 10, 2011 2:09 PM
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

July 10, 2011
12:57 PM

Post #8684296

You can grow them in containers--mine seem happier now that they're in the ground but I had a few that I kept in containers for a couple years waiting to find the right spot for them and they were doing OK in the containers. In your area, if you're growing H. macrophylla they're going to be happiest if they have shade at least in the afternoon. Some morning sun is fine, but afternoon sun in warmer climates will tend to fry them. If you've seen people in your area growing them in full sun, they may be a different species (I believe that H. paniculata and H. arborescens are more sun tolerant).
NatureLover1950
Vicksburg, MS
(Zone 8a)

July 10, 2011
1:00 PM

Post #8684304

Like you, I've seen hydrangeas in sun and I don't get it either. They do prefer shade. To answer one of your questions about growing hydrangeas in a pot--I have a beautiful hydrangea in a half whiskey barrel on my front porch where it gets morning sun only and it's doing great. I have a good drainage hole in the bottom of the barrel to make sure the roots don't sit in too much moisture and I keep it well mulched.
I have several oak leaf hydrangeas down by our creek that I dug up out of the woods at our hunting camp. At the camp they grow out of the sides of steep banks which is why mine are down by the creek. Our creek is deep but never has a whole lot of water in it except during heavy rains so the soil is poor, mostly dry and hard. I kept the oak leaf hydrangeas well watered for the first couple of years and then left them mostly on their own except for long droughts and they're doing great. They will tolerate some sun but, like the other types, prefer mostly shade. I love the oaks because the flowers dry so well and I use them in flower arrangements. I've been told the other types dry well too but I haven't had the heart to cut any off the one I have on the porch--they look so pretty on the plant. The oaks just get covered up with flowers though so I don't mind taking a few.
I amended the soil for all my hydrangeas with lots of peat moss and cow manure and they love it (even the oak leaf types). Since yours aren't doing very well, if you haven't already, try adding some fertilizer.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 10, 2011
1:43 PM

Post #8684399

Ed - on this short thread our own Luis gives links to suitable hydrangeas for containers:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1194067/
edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 11, 2011
5:21 AM

Post #8685407

NatureLover, what types of containers do you use for the porch? Do you take them in for winter? I'm in 7a so I know it will be a little different for me.
edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 11, 2011
5:22 AM

Post #8685409

Pirl, I think that once you show me how to take cuttings from hydrangeas I'm going to do that little nature area in the woods I've wanted to do for so long. I plan to line the path with hydrangeas!!! My wife would love it.
NatureLover1950
Vicksburg, MS
(Zone 8a)

July 11, 2011
12:29 PM

Post #8686221

Hi Ed,
I have Endless Summer (Hydrangea macrophylla) in a half whiskey barrel and it's doing great. I had another one that I kept the same way but finally after four years moved it to a place in my flowerbed. You're right, I'm sure it is warmer down here so I don't have to bring mine inside for the winter. I keep them on my front porch which faces south but has a full length roof to keep the hot sun off my plants. I keep the hydrangea on the east end so it only gets morning sun. I just move it up next to the front of the house in the winter time so it will be next to the bricks which hold warmth and keep them from getting too cold. I also add an extra layer of mulch for the winter. I have other plants that are more tropical in nature that I put on a table in our garage (in front of a west facing window) for the winter while they are dormant and they always survive so if your climate is too cold for your potted hydrangea you might try that.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:33 PM

Post #8686507

Ed - Would you believe I got my C's mixed up (blame the heat) on the way to take cuttings? Here's the hydrangea cuttings. Always take them from a stem that is not in flower - the back of the shrub is an ideal spot.

Take cuttings: since the difference between the nodes vary there is no way I can give you a specific length but 6 to 7" works fine for me. You will want at least one node buried - more success (for me) with two nodes.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:35 PM

Post #8686511

Remove center leaves at top.

Leave the next two leaves but cut them in half to reduce transpiration.

Now you're left with a stem and two half leaves on top:

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:37 PM

Post #8686516

Put the cuttings in a soil-less mix and water them. Next you'll put them in a spot where you'll remember to check on them and where it gets only early morning light. (Picture will be after the Crape Myrtle cuttings.)
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:40 PM

Post #8686524

Crape Myrtle cuttings -

Take 6" pieces from growth without buds or flowers. I used three pieces with shiny red new growth and removed more than one set of leaves at the top. I also used two cuttings that were all green and on the underside of the tree.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:42 PM

Post #8686530

Strip off most bottom leaves - I left two sets of leaves on the cuttings where possible.

You can see here the top red growth that I had removed as well as excess leaves.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:43 PM

Post #8686536

An out of focus shot of the new reddish leaves that I removed so you'll recognize them when you see them.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:45 PM

Post #8686542

All cuttings are potted and watered well. Allow time for the water to be absorbed - remove excess water from saucer or tray.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
2:51 PM

Post #8686561

LABEL EACH POT WITH THE NAME & DATE.

Place in shady spot that will only get morning sun. Check them every two or three days, more often if it's hot.

Here they make their home with other cuttings and plants in Pirl's Day Care Center for plants!

Good luck, Ed.

By the way, I did check the Callicarpa but every single branch is loaded with buds. I took my cuttings as I pruned it in spring - April or May. You'd follow the same directions as for the Crape Myrtles or Hydrangeas.

I have hormone powder but haven't used it for any cuttings yet though I will use it for Rhododendrons.

Please ask any questions you might have.

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edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 11, 2011
5:24 PM

Post #8686850

soil-less mix? What's that?

Okay, here's a summary:

Take a stem that is not in flower, 6 to 7", have 2 nodes to bury.

Remove center leaves at top.

Leave the next two leaves but cut them in half to reduce transpiration.

Now you're left with a stem and two half leaves on top.

Put the cuttings in a soil-less mix and water them. Put them in a spot where you'll remember to check on them and where it gets only early morning light.

Water well. Allow time for the water to be absorbed - remove excess water from saucer or tray.

LABEL EACH POT WITH THE NAME & DATE.

Check them every two or three days, more often if it's hot.

Did I get it all?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
6:16 PM

Post #8686971

You got it! You can use a regular scissors to cut the stems - nothing fancy required.

Miracle Gro is just an example of a soil-less mix but there are many brands.
edforlife
Elkin, NC

July 11, 2011
6:44 PM

Post #8687051

Oh, like Miracle Gro potting soil?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2011
6:51 PM

Post #8687076

Yes. It doesn't contain soil so it's called a soil-less mix. Fafard makes some very good ones and that's what I use but there are many brands.
sseiber6
West End, NC
(Zone 7b)

September 24, 2011
11:51 AM

Post #8822131

When is the right time to take crepe myrtle cuttings? My neighbor has some lovely ones, and I'd love to take cuttings.
Thanks!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 24, 2011
3:03 PM

Post #8822378

Mine did very well from July cuttings. Why not give them a try now? You have nothing to lose.

Sorry! My error. My Crape Myrtle cuttings didn't take but the Beautyberry did quite well.

This message was edited Sep 24, 2011 6:06 PM
Bloomfly22
Palmdale, CA
(Zone 8a)

December 18, 2011
10:16 AM

Post #8934346

I love putting beautyberry cuttings in water so I can enjoy the purple berries indoors1

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