You had me going there for a minute. I have Black Dragon, which contrary to its name is a white trumpet with kind of a maroon back and edging. Thought I was losing it. Actually, maybe I have as I haven't seen it yet. Blackout and Black Bird have blossomed, and some NOID's that aren't too remarkable. also looks like a first time lily named Reinesse just popped.
I am close to the end. Casa Blanca is blooming, and so is Anastasia, but the one that has blown me away is Crystal Blanca (B&D Lilies). It's like a shorter Casa Blanca with shorter stems, and it has been in bloom since the 21st. It produces lots of buds, which bloom, apparently, in groups of 3.
Well here goes. This is Blackout, or so I think. it doesn't look at dark in the center as it did last year, but I am pretty sure this is where I planted it. It is very close to Black Bird, which has a more orangy look I think.
White Butterflies is particularly nice. Just gorgeous. And yes, a lily is a lily. You will keep posting as your later lilies open, yes? I for one wouldn't miss it for anything. It's so nice to come to the thread and see new lilies!
Huh?? Okay, it sounds wacked. But I don't know what else to do... I have no bare spots in my garden as I fill in with annuals. If I get them in now they will have a few months to get healthy roots and just might survive our winter.
I've experienced -40 and it ain't pretty, but then you don't expect to be playing outside in the winter. This heat wave has been going on so long that people are getting cabin fever. That's not supposed to happen in the summer and I'm getting darn cranky myself! Feel like a 3 year old.. "I wanna go out and play! >:(
I image it is so. I spent Feb thru June in western Tennessee by the Kentucky border and that was bad enough, and hadn't really even started to get as bad as it would get. And life does go on and you do go out even in -40 or -50. Just not as often. About as often as you might in +100. Maybe less if your car won't start. lol
It's hot here today but not like Moby in Nebraska. It did go down to 68 degrees here, and the high today is 91, but feels much hotter. Now that I am old and really intolerant of the heat, I don't know how we got through the 50s without an a/c. Those were the years I was in summer camp.
At times the humidity can be awful, but nothing like Florida. It is not humid today, just hot, but nothing like what Moby has to deal with. We're right on Long Island Sound, so the one thing we get is is pitting on aluminum furniture and screen/storm doors.
This entire summer it is far less humid than usual, for which I am thankful. Despite the occasional rains, everything is dry. My husband waters early in the a.m., and I often water again later in the day. Is it dry where you are? I cannot envision -40 degree weather. In Chicao, they close schools when it is 10 below because they don't want children waiting for the school bus in the cold. What about Anchorage?
Well, it has actually been a pretty dry warm summer thus far. Except for the last two days. Steady downpower. And since the water table went up, the main power plugs for my pond blew the breaker. Have to go out with a hair dryer and an umbrella to pull apart the plug ins and dry them reassemble.
Even in Fairbanks schools were never closed. There were too many kids out in the outlying areas who walked a mile or so to the bus stops and parents would go to work. They were afraid that they would freeze, so buses ran no matter what. Sometimes they were late and being dumb kids we never dressed well enough. I can remember standing there with solid ice feet. Then you would get on the bus and start to thaw out. Our legs would turn bright orange and splochy and oh it hurt the get the feeling back in feet, legs, hands etc. I went to Catholic School and girls had to wear dresses. I could have worn pants under the dress then changed but noooo, not me. But even the public school kids never dressed appropriately. A wonder we didn't lose toes and fingers.
Man, I hated that about Catholic school ~ no pants. We walked to school, so in the winter it was heavy cable-knit stockings and garters. Yuk.
The winters here aren't as severe as when I lived in Minnesota, where it is fairly dry. More humid here and the cold sinks right into your bones. At least in a cold climates, really good thermal-wear is easy to find and you can always put more on. Down here, people think they need to look fashionable. Ha!
How much further off-topic can we get? LOL At least talking about winter makes me feel a bit better. :)
LOL. that must have been a sight. At least your folks made sure you dressed for the weather. I wish I had a picture of my 'outfit' my last semester at UAF (University of Alaska, Fairbanks). I was 45 years old, and had taken my time getting my degree. It was January and -50-55 and just not worth moving a car so I walked a bout half a mile to a bus stop. Between a sub-zero parka down to my knees, wool knickers, sweatshirt, wool hat and scarf covering all but my eyes with the hood up and my sorels I was toasty. With my little knapsack on my back full of books...what a sight. Assuming I could be seen through the ice fog. lol. far funnier looking back on than doing.
And monkey bars. And see saws. And my favorite (ah, yes, Catholic schools) obligatory recess in -20 weather. We would all stand against walls shivering in our skirts (oh yes, mstella and Mar) and beg the nuns to let us in but NOOOOO!
Oh my gosh, Donna. I guess I never thought about others going through the same thing. Don't remember going outside to play in -20 but I assume we did. Play my foot. Freeze to death more like. Yup, we survived stuff that kids today have no concept of. Try 5 gallon bucket for a privy, dirt floors, melting snow for bath water... only for a short time, but I wouldn't trade the memories for anything.
LOL. Moby I never thought about that. I remember the merry go round and the tetherball post, and something that was a tall post with chains ending in heavy metal grips. The idea was to grab hold one hand above the other and run as fast as you could ultil you were swinging around the post, with five others doing the same. Lots of owies on that heavy metal play equipment but great fun. And the mad stampede to get to the swings first.
Well, we head into our third day of ceaseless rain. I am so afraid that my lilies, yet unfurled, will rot before or upon opening, especially the doubles. I am donning my raincoat and umbrella to inspect the grounds. :(
Another 90 plus day for us. I took quite a few lilies and put them in pots to get better access. There are still quite a few that didn't die, but didn't bloom. But the bulbs look great! More for next year!
It's hard to believe that while your lilies are about done, my most beautiful ones are yet to pop. The asiatics are about all open, still going strong, but the tall hybrids, orienpets, are still a week or two out. I love rubrum. I don't think I have a tall one that color. Closest is Star Fighter, a short asiatic. And it hasn't opened up yet.
If we are just sort of enjoying late flowers, I caught this shot across two flower gardens that has a sidewalk between that you can't see. Starting at bottom: Purple Dragon Lamium, Godetia, Lily Grand Cru, Bachelor Buttons, NOID, Snap dragons.
Thanks. I have a lot of 'just green' in some places so I like to take shots like that to show that there is a lot of color overall. I still have large lilies, monaarda, daylilies, gayfeather and Little Lamb bushes to bloom yet.
I love roses. I have three in the ground that are Rugosa so they stay in the ground year round. I have tried potting them up but they only produce one or twoblooms and that's about it. My MIL in Fairbanks, where it is really sunny and hot has a deck facing south with no obstruction. Her pots are gorgeous and loaded with blooms every year. I guess I just don't have the touch or we simply have too much rain. I can't complain though, as my gladiolas and lilies will keep going through Sept since they start late, at least the tall ones. Dimensions is open (picture to follow) and Conc d'or and Mother of Pearl are just about to go. Also dahlias, the newer ones are opening up. The ones I propagated are all open and continue to bloom. Unfortunately looks like I have only one type thus far. Missing four others.
I have some in the ground and some in pots. Gruss is in a pot, which I roll into the garage every winter. I have these really cool self watering pots from Gardeners Supply that I have been using for years. It's wonderful that you have blooms so late in the season, although you certainly wait long enough for them. I think that next year I will order some speciosums to keep me going. I used to grow Uchida from B&D and a formolongi from seed. Didn't do that this year and I regret it, so I will next year.
I have one speciosum Alba but it is really in a bad spot. It grows but is short and didn't flower last year. I should just dig it up now that I have found it and give it a better home. How do you keep the pots from getting too much rain...oh, that's right. You guys don't get rain. Hope that has changed.
I kept killing off speciosum uchida after a couple of seasons because I didn't realize that it really needs acidic soil. It would bloom and not come back, but I loved it so much I kept ordering three. B&D lilies had it for about $5.00 each, which in the world of lilies is hardly terrible. This spring I am going to do it again and put them in a pot.
I always put the lilies I am potting in terra cotta pots. If you water them often the excess just drains off. So do deluges. We have been alternating deludes with 90 degree weather. This morning it was 57 degrees! Then it hit 85. The annuals and tender perennials I have started from seed seem to love it. So do the roses.
Donna, that is what I had read about geraniums. That you should pot them in terracotta as they stay more uniformly moist and dry out uniformly. Man, I have a lot of plants in plastic. Would hate to think of the cost of pitching them.
mstella - scary. I just dug up geranium biokovo and put it in a pot two days ago. I'm going to do the same with my others. I have them at the feet of roses and it's gorgeous but they get very dry. At its peak it's lovely. One season after installation, at the feet of Zephirine Drouhin.
I have the opposite problem you have. I must have 100 terra cotta pots in all sizes. And they really have to be protected in winter in my climate, or they crack.
No, I think it is "After Eight" or possibly Stargazer. The white margins vary in width. They're obviously my favorites, so that's what I buy each year. This one is in the garden, but I put lots in pots to gift. As long as they have good drainage, they winter well in (plastic) containers.
Cute, jmorth... I like to catch flowers with rain droplets. It adds a sense of motion, um, activity? Don't know how to express it. Not just a fixed picture of a flower, but the day to day process of rain, sun, etc. I took a nice picture of a clump of Snow Cap daisys in the morning with dappled sun on it. Same idea only with sunshine.
All of my lilies in the ground have bloomed but two late acquisitions - minatures, in pots, were yet to bloom. Here is ' Tiny Hope': dedicated to Donna Mack as today marks attainment of yet another milestone in life's grand adventure...
I had alway been very pastel. Then I discover the power of red in a cool color garden. I like to plant them with grasses, which hides the stems and almost makes the lilies look like butterflies. I got Hiawatha because it echoes Ariadne, and added Red Alert, and later The Vamp. POW!
I planted some grasses, karl Forester, Blue Fescue, and blue Oat Grass. I ended up with little tufts of grass growing my in paths (a mossy path with wooly thyme and odd flat stones) where I didnt' want it, as well as in the flower beds. I tried cutting it before it went to seed but decided to get rid of the Karl Forester. My beds aren't deep enough to accomodate them and the flowers. Yours look just beautiful and what I would love to have. You are really good at design and seeing patterns in gardens. I can do that with spreadsheets, databases, and office proceedures. Patterns and flow, but I am darned if I can do it with a garden. I try to keep the tall stuff to the back and that is about my best effort.
Thank you so much for saying it, you two. It means a lot to me. It's funny. I'm terrible with my hands. I can't paint. I can't sew. But I just love texture and design. I basically find what I love and find a place to put it. I really started with grasses, and then ornamental trees and shrubs. I found by accident that grasses hide a lot of flaws in other plants. And small trees are wonderful, because you can put a lot of them in even a small yard. When I discovered lilies, I found that you could pop them all over the place and even co mingle similar types in different colors.
If you want to see a rocking designer, check out Pam in Chalfont, PA. She has some design in her background, I think, and she understands texture and color like an expert.
How I miss Neri! He dug out so many hollies and butterfly bushes gone insane and then moved this hydrangea and three others. He has called from Guatemala and says he misses us but not as much as we miss him!
Its hard to admit to needing help.
I will have a helper on a "as needed" basis. I thought to only have him spread compost but as time goes by in the garden I am finding other jobs for James.
Moveing a huge hellebore,planting clematis.
His father was a professional gardener and he worked with his dad.
My first most important question was "Can you identify perennials"? he said he was a High maintenance garden ,gardener.
You did well, Jo Ann. I loved having Neri since he knew all his plants, annuals, perennials, bulbs and vegetables. The only one he wasn't familiar with until he arrived was Houttuynia but he hasn't forgotten it!
At first it was "the money"
After a lot of thought I realized I could garden longer if I had help.
There are plants and ideas I havnt tried yet.
I will be planting mini daffs around some of my vulnerable lilies.
I had my daughter's boyfriend to help last summer. Had major digging and moving of a lot of gravel. he was a godsend. I never could have done it withouthim. Of course, he is rather nerdy, heavy into youthful philosophy that life will clear up for him, and borders on being a socialist. i try to overlook these. Nerdy I can take. And he is very very polite. But he commented once that if the 'rich wouldn't share their wealth, maybe it should take taken from them." My husband won't have him here after that. But I was grateful for his help, and when we (Laura) go for coffee, I invite him along sometimes. Or if we are going for breakfast. He is her choice for now, so I want to be supportive. Alas, he also didn't know a kumquat from an azalea.
LOL, our Billy that cuts down the grasses wouldn't know an azalea from a kumquat either. But he enjoys cutting grasses and racking, and bagging leaves for my compost. If he expresses any interest in learning the plants, I will teach him, but none so far.
Trying not to get into politics here but I couldnt help be amused at the boyfriends philosophy.
I have been around a long time,was a weekend member of a commune for a few years, and made the choice to make a living.
Biggest reason was I like indoor plumbing.
Your daughters boyfriends philosophy is common for young people who arent quite sure where their lives are headed and dont want to take the reigns themselves and be the masters of their own destinies.
My grandfather used to say"If all the wealth was distributed equally, within one year the rich would be rich and the poor would be poor"
You are wise to accept him at the level you do. She might be as level headed as her mom, you never know.
Oh gosh, Polly, no, especially not in one day. I would stagger it. Since I was gardening every day in the spring, I'd pick one and do it. Finally, after many years of taking out multiple five foot wide grasses, we paid someone to do it last year. The biggest problem is that I have lilies in grass beds. I of course, know where they are. I could see some of the leftover stalks (which I left on propose). I was fortunate - I didn't lose a single lily.
As for the young man, well, I started working when I was 11. Mostly babysitting, but I saved every penny and by the time I was ready for college I had a few thousand dollars, which I offered to my father since he was paying for it. He insisted that I keep every penny that I earned (most of it at 55 cents an hour) and that I could do anything with it, even if it was completely frivolous, because I had learned to work and save. What that young man doesn't quite get yet is that having your own resources gives you freedom and some power of determination, while waiting around for the powers that be to distribute someone else's accumulated 55 cents doesn't.
I work in non-profit, and you would be amazed how much money hardworking people in modest houses often have - and give away freely. It's inspiring to be around people like that. Not the ones who want buildings named after them and want to meet celebrities, but the ones who want no recognition and just believe in giving back..
Dave's Garden isn't for politics, I understand. But it is nice to hear from folks who share our philosophy and have the work history to prove it. I never was much of a saver, but like you, Donna, started babysitting around 11 or 12. Left home at 18 and have never left a debt unpaid or got in over my head. LOL. And my husband is, as he says, slightly to the right of Atilla the hun. Laura is her own person, like me in some ways, and where the rest came from I have no clue. Must be her father. lol
Well, Conc d'or is just about open along with Mother of Pearl. When they are decently open I will post pictures.
Thanks, MC. I have to move it and others since they all back up to a Jackmanii clematis, which in turn backs up to one of our six compost bins. The Jackmanii defies description in growth so it can stay but I do want to see the lilies in bloom and can't as long as they remain where they are.
Holy cow! I have tried and tried and can't get one to bloom, assuming I can even keep it alive. Yours is gorgeous.
Six compost bins (I can just see part of one in the pic). You must have great mulch. but a lot of work.
My guess is that jackmani thrives on neglect. I knew a woman who did NOTHING for hers. No water, no fertilizer, improper support, north side of house. It bloomed outrageously every year (it was the only thing in her neglected garden that did). Are you giving yours too much love?
One of our neighbors insists on never pruning or feeding their Jackmanii, in full sun, and they get a few measly blooms on top and they're happy so I say nothing. A friend "thinks" hers may be Jackmanii but it hasn't bloomed in so long she can't recall the color - she's never pruned it or fed it.
Contrast that with the constant feeding ours gets from the compost and the fact we cut it back by 12' a few times each summer. Here's the cuttings on the brick and that was taken July 8th and it desperately needs another 12' removed.
I would love to have compost bins but we have no room except a spot that has asphalt on it. I don't think that would be good for a compost bin. I have seen three bin designs that look like just the ticket. So they are heavy feeders, eh?
The neighbor who doesn't cut back was busy giving advice on her Jackmanii to the man who asked me, not her!
They are very heavy feeders, MC, as Clematis Guru and Evey and Jeanne have always said. Before I came to DG I'd give each plant 20 pounds of manure, a handful of lime and a handful of 5-10-5 and they always did quite well but they were all planted with a lot of our compost. Now, with over 100 clematises, I'm not about to drag around 2000 pounds of manure each spring!
Arlene, I love your clematis! The plans that were in the yard when we came are still going strong each spring. The plants I put in from starters in the spring of 2009 are just strating to show their stuff and bloomed for the first time this year.
I think our last lily is just about ready for Taps. Mary, I will live vicariously on your beautiful lilies and jmorth's dwarf oriental. You cannot have too many lilies.
Website photos are sometimes misleading. This includes the better vendors as well. I always check Plant Files to see if a gardener has a photo of the plant in their garden. Those candids are more true.
I always have that extra burst of pride when my flowers match the package. Often it does not happen for me the first year. The lilies are generally reliable; peonies not so much, but I love them anyway.
Hybrid lilies are offered as cultivars and as mixed strains. You can buy a cloned cultivar such as 'Enchantment', with all the bulbs producing identical plants, or bulbs of a strain such as Citronella which is a 'grex', a number of clones of the same or very similar parentage with many characteristics in common, but not producing identical flowers. The Lily Garden lists quite a few 'strains'.
Here's the description from The Lily Garden of Ice Caves
Tetra! ‘Ice Caves’ () has fragrant, snowy white flowers, with a semi-recurving “sunburst” form that emphasizes icy green throats. This tetraploid strain has long-lasting flowers with tremendous substance!
4 to 5 feet (and eventually taller), early to mid July.
ICE Each $15.00 3/$40.00
I'm crossing my finger on your remaining Ice Caves. They are much too beautiful to lose. It may just be the weird year. My Whiye Henryis opened over a four week period this year. Anastasia three. This has never happened before. I'm crossing my eyes too!.
laaaahhhhh. I love White Henrii.Its the first lily I ever bought from B&D and I wasnt gardening very much in those days.
I wanted to replicate my grandmothers lilies and just chose that one. Hers were actually Black Dragons and Regals as I found out 10 years later.
My fingers are crossed for Ice Caves too.
White Henryi was an afterthought for me. Every year I realize that I have forgotten what a spectacular lily it is. Perhaps because it is easy to find and inexpensive. But the color! The strength, the scent! Every year it yells at me from the garden - hey you! Come over here!
My mistake guys. I reread my message and realized how it sounded. I only have one Ice caves. But I have several other lilies in the front garden that have yet to bloom. I understand now about the strains. Interesting. I have seen the same sort of thing in dahlias such as patches that has anything from almost white flowers to a even mix of white with fuschia tips. Kaiser Wilhelm came out this year rather different from the original that was much more red. Now they are mostly yellow. It would appear that I have lost Nellie Broomhead and White Dawn in the winter hold over process.
Absolutely. Seems like they take forever to even bud up, but then they just keep on blooming til they wilt from frost. I have huge ones in the ground this year. Bigger than I have ever had. Not sure why. Even the Hockley Maroon in the ground has made huge bushes about 36" tall and about that around. Al Alamand is at least 48" tall and 36-40 around. It would be interesting to see pictures of full bushes in addition to blossom pictures to show relative size in different gardens.
Photo was taken last month. The bulbs have divided and formed new ones in the container.
I started with only one large bulb a few years ago. Now I have 3 or more from the same bulb.
My mail carriers smile as they deliver the mail. :-)
They are gorgeous. I had the opposite problem earlier in the year, with lilies being scorched by the heat. I dug them up and brought them into the house. It was Crystal Blanca, shorter cousin of Casa Blanca, so you can imagine how wonderful that was.
Anyone interested in trading for three Pizzazz lilies? They have grown about 4 feet and lots of blooms. I just don't care for it overmuch. I got it from The Lily Garden Spring 2010 so the bulbs have grown some since then.
OCCAROL - its to early for snow!
We had snow in June too.
You're welcome to take as much as you like.
Its still dumping on us.
At least I can enjoy the lilies that I brought inside along with the lilies in the greenhouse.
I can take a few Sorbornne cuttings from the GH and make another arrangement, even one for the bathroom!
Me and my lilies. LOL.
I used to live in vole city (50 lilies in a single winter, with tons of trails). I was using expandable slate until I realized that miniature daffodils, planted near lilies, scare off vole and rabbits. After a year or so they didn't even tunnel to get to them.. I think they leave each other notes.
If a vole is just another mouse, I wonder if that would work for me. As you know I had a mouse infestation (don't really know how to tell the difference - these had tails) and lost tree peonies, trees, bushes, etc. They didn't touch the lily bulbs though. Seemed mostly on the surface and bored tunnels through the snow. Maybe the Alaskan version of the vole.
Ack! Thank you Moby - corrected above. I find that WP Milner, a quite demure (and CHEAP) daff works well. There were tulips and lilies I hadn't seen for years because the darned rabbits were biting the stems off.
We have kept mice out of the house for 13 years with one of those sonar things in the basement. Our neighbors all have mice. Of course, we also keep our garage door closed. Not that one doesn't get the occasional bird (I try not to panic them so they won't run into spmething), chipmunk (who LOVED the tulip bulbs I dug up and put in the garage) and recently, a baby bunny - cutest darned thing you've ever seen.
Had a real thrill recently (OK, only a lily head would feel this way). Years ago I bought, from B&D, an Easter Lily Black Dragon lone called Longidragon.
The picture doesn't do it justice, it's breathtaking, short, strong stems, gorgeous scent. The darned rabbits bit it to the ground every year, and tree roots began growing over it. Not only could I not get it out, But I no longer knew where it was. And the crop was decimated in the B&D vole invasion of several years ago. They lost most of theor stock of several wonderful lilies.
But I got a brainwave. I planted a couple of WP Milners where I though it would be, and lo and behold this year i emerged and bloomed. So I dug it tp. Hppy Donna. Happy Longidragon.
I have three Albums and three Miss Lucys (although one has sent up three stems). I have had them in the ground for two summers. They grow, form buds, and at least with Miss Luch, one tries to open about now. The only thing I can figure is that they are really late bloomers and/or our summers are not long or hot enough for them. Any ideas?
I think it simply gets too cold here, even though the weather is nice to me. Its about 48F now, at 4pm; been cloudy and drizzly, but not a big things. The snow is coming down the mountains all around us, so I figure the first of November for sure. Neither the mums or the asters have bloomed. So I suspect as much as I hate to ditch healthy plants, I might as well dig them up. I don't have room for non-bloomers, unless by intent, say grasses, bushes, etc. And not many of those. And the bushes actually all flower: azalea, ninebark, hydrangea, lilac, chokecherry. Even the siberian pea have tiny flowers.