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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 12, 2011
4:28 PM

Post #8752745

Please help identify these for me:

#1 picture saved as Coleus #5

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 12, 2011
4:30 PM

Post #8752746

Picture #2 saved as Coleus 6

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coleuslover123

coleuslover123
Mount Laurel, NJ

August 15, 2011
7:51 PM

Post #8758535

#1 picture saved as Coleus #5, looks like 'red head' to me. If so, it will get quite big, is sun tolerant and grows quite fast. I'll post a picture of my 'red head' so you can see if it looks like it.

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 16, 2011
4:44 AM

Post #8759003

Thank you for helping ID my coleus.

They do look alike. Guess I need to take it out of the flower pot.
I don't have to worry about sun; that's one thing I have plenty of.
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 16, 2011
4:58 AM

Post #8759023

What is the name of the other coleus IN YOUR PICTURE. I don't have any that are yellowish or lime green. If I am successful with overwintering my coleus, guess I will work on that next year.

How do you overwinter yours. The last 2 years I have had problems with mealy bugs in the greenhouse. This year I am planning on taking everything out of the GH and clean it well before moving plants in for winter.

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onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 19, 2011
3:59 AM

Post #8764199

pic 2 - 6 elfers?

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 19, 2011
7:40 AM

Post #8764558

Wish, that does look like what I have. I will look into different pictures first before deciding.

Why does H.Depot, Lowes, Walmart, have names on their plants instead of a generic name for everything?

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 19, 2011
5:00 PM

Post #8765386

I would think the growers do the tagging.. elfers changes colors with how much light it gets.. sometimes hard to tell

coleuslover123

coleuslover123
Mount Laurel, NJ

August 22, 2011
6:15 AM

Post #8770427

Hi PlantsforPeg - not sure who you're asking about the 'other coleus' in the picture, but if it's the one to the right of my 'red head' it is 'freckles'. My picture is actually a little dark, the 'freckles' is quite yellow and orange. I'll see if I can find a lighter picture to post. 'sedona' on the right, which is reportedly a sport from 'freckles'. 'freckles' to the left of 'sedona', 'red head' to the left of that, then the green one is 'dappled apple', with 'kona red' on top right (or it might be 'atlas', I can't tell the two apart now).

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 22, 2011
11:53 AM

Post #8771126

Coleus lover,

I like freckles since the few coleus I have are green and/or maroon.
I am hoping to get golds soon and am wishing for an orange one too.

This year I am hoping to save a few for starters in the greenhouse, but am afraid they will get mealy bugs.

We need to start (all 3 of us) a coleus trade forum. Coleus for Coleus.
Any volunteers???

coleuslover123

coleuslover123
Mount Laurel, NJ

August 23, 2011
5:44 AM

Post #8772504

'rustic orange' (see picture) is a beautiful orange one and very hardy and grows fast. I too have problems with mealy bugs. I really dread it this winter, but I do want to propagate them. I've used bayer systemic and it seems to help but I still havn't gotten rid of them completely. I also killed a few with the systemic (I guess it made it too strong or something). I might try investing in some predator bugs but they are awfully expensive. Has anyone tried this?

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

August 23, 2011
7:39 AM

Post #8772670

What predator bugs are good for mealys?
I might want to "propagate" the predotors also.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 23, 2011
4:11 PM

Post #8773490

no clue.. will be watching for an answer

coleuslover123

coleuslover123
Mount Laurel, NJ

August 30, 2011
5:26 AM

Post #8784638

http://greenmethods.com/biocontrols/cryptolaemus/

Mealy bug predator is related to lady bug but a little different.
Mealybug Predator Cryptolaemus montrouzieri

Unfortunately it's expensive. I think it's about $1.50 per bug. Some sites only sell by the hundred pack, but I think I saw one that sells a pack of 25.
Search the net.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 30, 2011
5:31 AM

Post #8784644

neat.. thanks!
pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 11, 2011
12:50 PM

Post #8886126

I have a question about Elfers, if some of you are experienced with it. Mine came with rounded scallops, in dark purple and greens. Very pretty and just like I ordered it from the vendors. Since then, it SEEMS to have done some different things. The scallops on the more recent leaves are now pointed and it has much more yellowish/gold in it. I noticed that someone said it changes with sun, and I know that's true for most of the coleus I grow, but this is almost like a different plant. It's incredibly beautiful and definitely my favorite. Does that sound right to anyone else? I just want to make sure that I have it ID'ed correctly. I will try to post a picture later today.
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 11, 2011
12:57 PM

Post #8886135

I haven't grown Elfers, but found Meandering Linda was a problem for me. I kept reverting and losing it's true identity. Eventually it kept getting smaller and smaller so I quit snipping off what was reverting back to the original plant that was used in the cross breeding. I won't be buying that one anymore.

pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 11, 2011
1:21 PM

Post #8886170

Okay, just took a better look, and basically, forget everything I said. :) They ARE two different plants, both tagged Elfers. I know which tag is correct. What I need now is an ID for this pretty thing.

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pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 11, 2011
1:21 PM

Post #8886173

Another photo. (The red plant on the bottom right is not part of it.)


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pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 11, 2011
1:25 PM

Post #8886182

Here's another I could use an ID on. This one came to me as a cutting from a nursery that was only using it for display, and they didn't keep the tags. It's battered from our recent hailstorm but was a bright yellow during the summer.

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 11, 2011
2:16 PM

Post #8886269

There is a great website that I have been using for identifying coleus. I'll try to get the name for you.


coleusfinder.org

I look at "pictures" and get all the information needed.

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pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 11, 2011
2:27 PM

Post #8886277

Thanks. :)

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 11, 2011
3:29 PM

Post #8886350

the first one is henna... I know I have seen the 2nd red one.. let me think about it .. not sure what the green is
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

November 11, 2011
4:18 PM

Post #8886391

The green looks like Versa "Burgundy to green" Mine gets quite yellow in heat of mid-summer and then darkens as fall approaches. The Versa series are grown from seed and are still fairly new to the market.

http://parkseed.com/coleus-versa-burgundy-to-green/p/51141/

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pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 11, 2011
5:18 PM

Post #8886468

Henna! Of course. I did order that, but my main plant died, and I guess I never tagged my cutting. Thank you. :) The red one next to it is properly tagged. It's either Hot Lava or Hot Sauce, don't remember which.

The Versa series may very well be my NoID. Mine has never been as green as the one in the picture; it's always yellow, and right now fading to very pale yellow. But the leaves and red veins are very similar. It's also very vigorous and easy to root. Nice plant.

Thanks for the help, you guys.
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 13, 2011
3:32 PM

Post #8888701

Thanks coleup and onewish.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 13, 2011
3:51 PM

Post #8888726

:)
alice_sunn
Stockholm
Sweden

November 14, 2011
6:20 AM

Post #8889562

To the second one: there are some coleus that have the word "Pineapple" in their names (Pineapple, Pineapple Beauty, Pineapple Queen etc) some of them are similar to yours. http://www.naturehills.com/product/pineapple_coleus.aspx

I've had several of those through the years, they are never green, they are always yellow with dark red details. Try Google for them, and see if you agree.


;) Alice

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 14, 2011
5:51 PM

Post #8890485

oh oh.. how about mariposa... at the bottom of my photo under the sedona

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 15, 2011
4:51 AM

Post #8890938

Nice, onewish. I love those with bright red/orange colors.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2011
2:28 PM

Post #8891605

me too.. I am a screaming loud color kinda gal

;)
pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 17, 2011
1:44 PM

Post #8894481

I wish my Mariposa looked like that! I have not had very vigorous growth out of them and have had a hard time rooting them as well.

Love your Sedona too. That is my very favorite. Well, maybe Henna too. You know, my VERY favorites, as opposed to just favorites. :)

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2011
3:13 PM

Post #8894608

I have lots of levels of favorites too!!... but really love them all!!
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 18, 2011
6:16 AM

Post #8895327

My larger coleus are doing the best. The smaller rooted ones seem to be stunted. They are just not growing fast. I try to keep them warm, but with this temp going up and down it's a wonder they are still alive.
pbtxlady
Garland, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 22, 2011
7:50 PM

Post #8902115

I overwinter mine, or try to. I take cuttings in the fall and try to get them potted up in time to get established before they have to come inside. Then they all, cuttings and mamas alike, suffer all winter long. By the first of May I just feel lucky if I still have one plant of each type. My other plants all go in the garage for the winter, but I just can't keep it warm enough out there for coleus, so they have to suffer the dry heat instead.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 23, 2011
3:14 AM

Post #8902374

the dry heat is the only option.. do not want to end up with mush
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 23, 2011
12:55 PM

Post #8902993

Mine are doing better with less water now. The smaller propagated ones are not doing so well.

coleuslover123

coleuslover123
Mount Laurel, NJ

November 27, 2011
7:03 AM

Post #8907489

My coleus in the basement are all doing very well, much better than last year. Some things I did differently this year: Took the cuttings earlier instead of waiting until october. Gave each one of them a dose of Bayer Tree and Shrub Systemic. About 1/8 to 1/4 tsp in a 2 in sq pot. So far, have kept them less crowded than last year. SO FAR !! I still have too many.

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onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 28, 2011
3:05 AM

Post #8908581

looking good!!
plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 28, 2011
5:11 AM

Post #8908652

Well, I have been using seven dust on my coleus to avoid the Mealy Bug attack I had last year. I am also watering less than during the summer.
kiseta
Augusta, GA
(Zone 8a)

November 28, 2011
6:40 AM

Post #8908756

First time I am doing the coleus cutting, they are doing good, but how big will they get by April if everything goes right. I am a cook, so it is not a surprise to use lots of the baking trays. Etelka

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plantsforpeg
Ventress, LA
(Zone 8b)

November 28, 2011
12:21 PM

Post #8909136

I don't expect mine to grow too much since I will not be ferterlizing them. Anyone else has experience with this, please chime in. I too use the foil pans. It makes it easier to move plants around. If they stumble and fall, the dirt may land up in the tray instead of on the floor.

Kiseta, yours are looking great.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

November 28, 2011
1:42 PM

Post #8909208

nice Kiseta!!... you can always pinch them if they are getting too big for the shelves.. and maybe root more if you want

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