Honey Laundering

Southern NJ, United States(Zone 7a)

From another board:

Asian Honey, Banned in Europe, Is Flooding U.S. Grocery Shelves

A third or more of all the honey consumed in the U.S. is likely to have been smuggled in from China and may be tainted with illegal antibiotics and heavy metals.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/08/honey-laundering/

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

Only thing I can say, buy from a local honey guy. It won't be altered & does not contain preservatives that FDA may require to be sold in a store.

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

Thanks for the link greenhouse_gal - it's frightening what's in our food these days!

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Dang- I sure will buy local now.
Last year I noticed bargain 'honey bears' that were cut with high fructose corn syrup.

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

I use honey medicinally to build up a resistance to the local allergens.
For that purpose, only locally harvested honey is necessary.
I love it as well. It is a strong dark honey and I have a stash "hoarded" in the pantry as well as help him sell it.

I cannot believe how unaware and gullible the consuming public is.
Thanks for the link...

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

sallyg - as long as the label says the contents have high fructose corn syrup added, then it's okay. Otherwise it's considered and adulteration and is illegal.

Personally, I haven't consumed any high frutcose corn syrup, or any other sweetener since 2005 and I feel so much better after getting all that stuff out of my system.

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Well, LOL, its 'ok' but I for one want honey in my honey, and will pay for real honey and don't want a $1 bear of corn-honey.

What, no honey for our Honeybee??

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

sallyg - I was diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic in 2005 - so no more honey for me (sigh)

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Bummer- but if you feel better without it- yay!

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

sallyg - actually, I didn't know how bad I felt until I gave up sweeteners. Now I just use a single package of "Truvia" on my shredded wheat in the morning.

But life isn't all bad - thanks to my vegetable garden, I eat lots and lots of fresh vegetables!

Glassboro, NJ

Chinese Honey is Horrific, and they sell it everywhere in New Jersey. Sorry to hear that Honeybee. I won't even eat the Local Honey, all the Farmer's here are Monsanto now,I get mine from NH, or Oregon.

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

I'll bet Monsanto is in NH & Oregon. You have to cut out honey!

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

I used to sell honey to local health food stores when I lived in South Florida. If you find honey in such a store that has a LOCAL address on the label, it should be 100% pure honey.

However, there is no guarantee that the bees have not been fed regular table sugar! (sigh)

Southern NJ, United States(Zone 7a)

It looks like NPR just did a piece on honey laundering, so it's becoming much more widely-known. We buy our honey from local people, and I don't think they do Monsanto products; they are strictly small-time.

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

I think the person who mentioned Monsanto was talking about bees working plants that come from GMO seeds.

Southern NJ, United States(Zone 7a)

I know that. I don't think this area is a big one for Monsanto crops.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

I'm also fortunate that there are few GMO crops in my county, at least until they engineer tobacco. This area could be considered "agricultural" but in reality it is a lot of young Angus grazing on the hillsides because most land is too steep for row crops. The GMO crops I do see are mostly Pioneer feed corn in 2-3 acre patches.

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

One good thing about living within the city limits of Charlotte - there are very few vegetable gardeners around, so I'm not plagued with cross pollination or many of the usual bad bugs. The bad thing is that I don't see may honeybees :(

Glassboro, NJ

Honeybee I'm very active Politically, and I know it's a no-no here... so I will use my words wisely...I have been fighting against the disappearence of Honeybee's for three years now all the way to the White House, and have had some success...I went to Local Farmer's drove right up their driveway and asked them flat out what seed they used, and unfortunately was told by most they where under contract they couldn't get out of with Monsanto, the bright note was I found one of the last Organic Farm's in Southern New Jersey, about 1 mile from my House. Looking at the Demographic's of my area, (He near talked my ear off, and I loved every minute of it...LOL) he's about 15 miles from the nearest Round-Up farm, so I'm assuming his crops and Honey are good, I don't think a Honeybee can fly 15 miles in one day and get back to the hive, especially if they are weak from pesticide and herbicides, I'll never forget that day that little honeybee died on my finger, or how few of them I've seen since then...

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

MrPappy... how wonderful to find an organic farm so close to home!

I rail against GMO's all the time because I write about food, health and gardening off site.

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

MrPappy - honeybees usually forage as close to their home as possible, but will go as far a 5 miles if needed. Any further and they consume the nectar they have collected for their own sustinance. Of course, they fly in a straight line, so one cannot take into account the twists and turns one might take in a car between point A and point B.

The day that honeybee died - was it really cold outside? If so, she might not have died, but merely fell into a stupor. My memory is a bit fuzzy regarding the temperature that honeybees fly, but I think it's around 65F. On cold days, honeybees will not leave their hive. My own bees used to alight on the hood of my car during cool weather so they could pick up enough warmth in their little bodies so they could fly again.

If you ever see a honeybee crawling around on the floor on a chilly day (especially if she is in the shade), let her crawl into the palm of your hand. She should do so willingly because she will sense the warmth. Then let her crawl onto a warm surface, like the hood of a car, or a bar-b-que grill that's sitting in the sun -- anywhere she can warm up. She will not sting you, unless she gets squeezed.

Bumblebees fly at lower temperatures, but I don't remember what that temperature is.

ALL honeybees seen in your garden are FEMALES.

Glassboro, NJ

It was a Beautiful warm summer day Honeybee, and it was the tiniest Honeybee I've ever seen, Frail and small sitting on a Cuke Blossum, when she stopped moving around , I put my Finger under her, and she fell out of the Flower onto my Finger, she attempted to fly it was the last thing she did...and so I questioned what would make the Honeybees disappear, I've been on a Torrent since with the Gov't. the Agency's and anyone in earshot... Learning Daily, about the Food, the Meat, the Water, it's Horrific, Sorry I didn't mean to go there here...but know I'm in the Fight, to stop this...
Honeybee, I want to start a Hive in my backyard, of Honeybee's, I have Purchased Hyssop which in my area is the biggest attractant to Honeybee's that I've seen over the last four year's, any other thought's you have would Help tremendously...
Even when I was a Child I was alway's attracted to Honeybee's they went about there business not bothering anyone, a pleasure to watch, and I miss them.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

PappyG, do you know about The Great Sunflower Project?

The Great Sunflower Project
http://www.greatsunflower.org

I wrote an article about them and their Colony Collapse Disorder work a couple of years ago:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/2457/

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

MrPappy - before you purchase anything for honeybees, please read an authorative book about them.

Hives MUST be registered with your State. There is an annual fee. The State Beekeeper MUST inspect ALL beehives.

My Favorite book on honeybees is "The Hive and the Honey Bee"

http://www.amazon.com/Hive-Honey-Bee-Beekeeping-Langstroth/dp/0684147904/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324313897&sr=1-4

This has become a collector's item - and no, my copy is not for sale ^^_^^

Glassboro, NJ

darius I read both articles Thank You... and I had already purchased a lot of Sunflower seed's for the coming year I have a South facing Border Garden on a Fenceline I plan to plant them in, which butts up against the East Garden.
Honeybee, I'm not a big fan of regulation's on how Mother Nature react's to my Garden's or how Politician's and Corporation's want to squeeze me for another Dollar to Support their Evil Way's, do they Regulate me if I have a Yellowjacket or wasp nest on my Property, whether I have Birdsnest's in my tree's, do they pay for the infestation of Stink Bug's because they are Prolific when sprayed with Round-Up, do they Tax me because a Random Turtle showed up in my Koi Pond, or a Chipmunk under my deck...??? No so to Hell with the lot of them, I'll buy more Hyssop, Plant some Sunflower's and make a box, and see what happen's, If Mother Nature decides to Grace me with a Honeybee Hive, then so be it, if not I'll figure something else out...LOL

Glassboro, NJ

Just one more comment Greenhouse Girl, I'm not sure what part of S. Jersey you live in I'm from Glassboro, and a lot of the Farmer's around here have already sold out, and the ones that are left , are All Monsanto, except for one.

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

MrPappy - the regulations are in place to protect the bees.

Honeybees can suffer from something called American Foul Brood which is extremely contagious to other bees. If your bees contracted this disease, it would quickly spread to other bees in the area. Also, bees are now inflicted with two kinds of mites - these too infect other bees.The mites crawl off the bees when they land on flowers, and are picked up by the next bee visiting that flower. If that is not one of your bees, then the mite is transferred to another beekeeper's hive.

The reason I gave up beekeeping is because I did not want to have to deal with the poisons needed to treat mites that had been brought into my hives.

Here's a link that explains these, and other pests/diseases that plague honeybees:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseases_of_the_honey_bee

Glassboro, NJ

It's being caused by Corporation's like Round-UP, Bayer, and Dow Chemical's...I didn't vote to entitle any of these Corporation's, to Create their Product's and they where totally ignored by agency's developed to Protect us...The FDA, USDA, EPA, and the DEP, ( Question: why do we need two agency's, suggested as environmental Protection Agency's
who Protect No One, while we pay their Salary..?? and enforce ridiculous rules to allow Criminal Corporation's to Incriminate Citizen's that grow a garden... This world is in Hell, Vote your conscience... it's incredible to me...

Glassboro, NJ

Honeybee, I'm sorry for Posting that on your wall ... my Frustration is enormous with our current state of affair's in this Country, as a Veteran, it appalls me,,,and I try my best not to post a negative on this site,,, surely I'll get booted...My Purpose is to make this something better than what I lived through...to leave behind a generation of Healthy Children, and a better Government than the one currently in Place... If I can achieve that... I will Die a Happy Man...
I teach my children Daily how to nurture soil, and seed, some from what I learn here, and other's. How to be self sustainable, through Rainwater Collection, and Natural Fertilizer, whether it be compost, manure or peelings from my Kitchen, the comfort I get when I come here cannot be measured, Once again I'm apologizing, the time has come for Sleep, and my mouth doesn't know how to stop, I'm Fervent in my Belief's, and I can't Help that, Dream Sweet Honeybee,

This message was edited Dec 22, 2011 1:19 PM

Fitzgerald, GA

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I plan to raise bees in greenhouses. The bees will be housed in a sealed bio-dome. The greenhouses will be linked to allow the bees access from their hives to the greenhouses which allows That way I know 100% what the bees have gotten into and I can 100% guarantee the quality of the honey. I will use non- GMO, non- hybrid plants in the greenhouse. The plants will be feed with fish waste. The fish will eventually be fed 100% from the greenhouses. Water for the fish will be well water which has been monitored and filtered.

Glassboro, NJ

Need a Roomate...or 3 ????

Glassboro, NJ

and Welcome Home...

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

iraqvet08 - you will not be able to sustain a full-sized honeybee hive in a greenhouse. You might be able to keep native bees inside.

Glassboro, NJ

Well I'm Happy to say through Local Council we just shut down a 300 acre Monsanto Farm,
through a Federal Clean-Up Grant, Field's were Burnt, they'll be turned over and tested over the next 5 Year's, it's about 15 miles from here and it was the closest one I had.

Glassboro, NJ

Honeybee on your Dec. 20th Post, about the regulator's regulating, there are no other Hive's near me except for the one's at the Organic Farm I mentioned near me, I use nothing on my Property that isn't Organic, I've learned enough over the last four year's, that I know I would not in any way endanger a Hive, to be absolutely Positive , I will go to his Farm and ask him tomorrow, the way thing's are going lately, he will Probably give me a Hive and a few Pointer's...

Glassboro, NJ

This is how you get rid of Monsanto Round-Up on a Local Level, I pressured Council got some Backing, said we don't want this anymore, along with numerous e-mail's to Congressmen Andrew's, no more Round-Up ready crops...at Least one down...

West Palm Beach, FL(Zone 10b)

Congratulations on your victory, Pappy G!

did this make your local papers that you can put up a link for?

Lewisville, MN(Zone 4a)

How do you shut down a farm ? Do you mean it's out of production, period.
What do you mean field's were burnt ? Turned over & tested for 5 years. You mean no crops grown for 5 years.
If that happened in the corn belt, the world would starve.

Charlotte, NC(Zone 7b)

MrPappyG - asking your neighbor about honeybees is a good idea. If his farm is within a couple of miles, you don't need to keep bees on your own property, his bees will pollinate your crops. If you want fresh honey, perhaps your neighbor will sell it to you. I used to have neighbors that purchased honey from me.

It's great having an organic farm so close to your home.

Glassboro, NJ

So Fla...this is so far under the rug, the only thing posted is a new sign on the property, I think I will take a Picture of it tomorrow, and post it...

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