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Heucheras and Friends: 'Binoche', 'Melting Fire', 'Cherry Cola', 'Shanghia'

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 4, 2011
2:39 PM

Post #8793091

I just put 'Binoche', 'Melting Fire', 'Cherry Cola', and 'Shanghia' into the ground and would appreciate any advice about growing conditions. Does 'Binoche' retain its dark colour with a bit of sun (2 hours)?
springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 6, 2011
9:23 AM

Post #8795907

Hi Irawon
I'm in the first year with 'Cherry Cola' and 'Shanghia', so far they are growing well. I just got them in the spring as plugs, so still small. The other 2 I don't have. Never heard of 'Binoche'. I will be looking that up. There has been much discussion about 'melting fire'. People have had trouble with that one. Hope you have good luck with it as the coloring is very nice. When I get my camera back I will post pictures of mine.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

September 6, 2011
9:48 AM

Post #8795936

I had not heard of Binoche either. Looking it up, it seems to be a seedling of Frosted Violet. FV is quite vigorous for me. I don't have Cherry Cola and lost Shanghai in last years' drought, so cannot say.

Melting Fire hangs on for me and I am continually surprised, because ML isnt' very vigorous for me. I too have seen where others on this forum have difficulties with ML as well.

Please post pictures of your Binoche.
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:16 PM

Post #8798240

Thank you so much for your replies. Here is 'Binoche', replanted after being uprooted by some animal. I replanted it and washed the dirt from the leaves. We're on well water, so I got calcium stains on the leaves. The only way I could get anywhere close to a true picture, I had to photograph 'Binoche' wet. The pictures on the net don't do it justice. The leaves are a rich velvety chocolate brown and not shiny as are 'Blackout' and 'Obsidian'. The leaves at the top of the pic are the purple undersides. When I bought it at 50% off, I was told that it had been exposed to full sun all summer.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:24 PM

Post #8798246

'Electra' planted early this summer. Picture taken this morning.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:26 PM

Post #8798251

'Lime Marmalade' new last summer and picture taken today.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:28 PM

Post #8798253

"Shanghai' oops forgot the picture.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:32 PM

Post #8798255

'Shanghai'

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:33 PM

Post #8798257

'Cherry Cola'

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

September 7, 2011
6:35 PM

Post #8798258

Very nice. Love Cherry Cola
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:37 PM

Post #8798260

'Dolce Blackcurrant' planted at same time as 'Cherry Cola'. Picture taken today.

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

September 7, 2011
6:39 PM

Post #8798262

Blackcurrent is a beauty.

Love it.
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:40 PM

Post #8798264

'Melting Fire'. Dug up twice by animals. Hope it survives.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:45 PM

Post #8798269

'Marmalade'. I lost three before I found the right spot. This was a small division from a friend three years ago. I've had no problems with 'Christa', doing well into third year.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:50 PM

Post #8798277

'Christa' gets a lot of water in this spot. I need to cut back the 'Bergenia' to give it more room.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:53 PM

Post #8798282

'Jupiter' was moved into more light this spring but it still has not bloomed for me.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:56 PM

Post #8798290

'Venus' new this spring .Photographed today.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
6:59 PM

Post #8798295

Third year for 'Gold Zebra'.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
7:02 PM

Post #8798299

'Sweet Tea' moved to a second location as it was getting too much sun. I had to cut back quite a bit of foliage.

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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 7, 2011
7:03 PM

Post #8798301

Very nice! 'Binoche' is one I will look for, such a beauty. You have a nice collection. Love to see your pictures.
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
7:06 PM

Post #8798306

'Fire Chief' replaced bleeding heart, which was not doing well in this location. Hope it survives.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
7:11 PM

Post #8798310

Last one. Planted two 'Frosted Violet' last August. I wonder if they would have better colour in more light?

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8798320

Thanks for your comments, springcolor and Carolyn. I liked 'Blackcurrant for its nice compact tidy appearance. It doesn't get too high, so a nice edger in front of hosta. I paired 'Midnight Rose' and 'Melting Fire' with painted fern. My MR is looking a little sparse after its relocation from underneath a hosta, otherwise I would have taken a picture.
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 7, 2011
7:34 PM

Post #8798332

I forgot 'Tiramisu'. It seems to be happy in its present location but I'm not sure it's showing its true colours here. Any advice? Should it be in more sunlight?

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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 7, 2011
8:51 PM

Post #8798511

Sorry I cross posted. Really enjoyed the pictures!
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

September 8, 2011
5:14 AM

Post #8798782

Ira

My Frosted Violet is in a part shade and I have the same coloring that you have on yours. The color is really vivid in the spring and it is a nice vigorous grower for me.

I am assuming that Tiramisu is like Miracle and the color comes more with the Spring and Fall. I don't have Tiramisu, Spring do you have that one?
springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
8:38 AM

Post #8799037

Yes, I have tiramisu. Very nice, I think it likes more shade. The red comes out more with the cool nights of fall. I will have to check mine, fall is in the air. I also have FV but in more sun, until about 2 in the afternoon. I will take a pictue of those today. My FV gets a bit crispy sometimes in the middle of summer if we get hot. Not much heat this year, so it looks good.
springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
4:59 PM

Post #8799658

My tiramisu is on the left. You can see the crisping on some of the leaves. No red yet. It did have red veins last fall, still to warm.

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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
5:02 PM

Post #8799670

This is why. My brother came to prune. Lost my shade. This is the north side of the house but gets some late afternoon sun. The sun is slipping down so I will soon beable to remove the umbrella.

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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8799678

Poor 'Golden Zebra' it will go into the greenhouse this year.

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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
5:07 PM

Post #8799687

This is my 'Frosted Violet' It gets AM sun to about 1-3 in the afternoon. It had some rust this spring because of all the rain. Pulled off all the leaves and sprayed. Looking good now.

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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
5:27 PM

Post #8799732

'Peachy Keen' is one of my favorites. Love all the colors.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 8, 2011
5:28 PM

Post #8799735

Lovely Heucheras, springcolor. My 'Iron Butterfly'dwindled this spring to two leaves and I'm still nursing it. 'Strike It Rich Gold' has bounced back. I forgot I revived an ailing Brunnera with coffee grounds a couple of years ago. Perked right up. Will try it with IB.
springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
5:29 PM

Post #8799739

Another favorite "French Quarter'. All most lost it last year after taking a start from it.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 8, 2011
5:37 PM

Post #8799748

I'll have to look for 'Peachy Keene'. I found a picture of 'Midnight Rose' in its first location.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 8, 2011
5:40 PM

Post #8799755

'Blackout'

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

September 8, 2011
5:47 PM

Post #8799774

Also 'Obsidian'. Love the sheen on this one. It gets a lot of shade but plan to move it to a bit more light because it hasn;t grown much. 'Purple Palace' self seeds like crazy. I'm hoping some of the new ones do too. Spring, have any of your varieties self seeded?

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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

September 8, 2011
5:58 PM

Post #8799800

I saved seed from my plants last year. Mixed them all up though. Got a ton of plants. There are some pictures on this froum some place. I can't find the pictures right now. I got some really nice seedlings.
dlefferts
Agawam, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 13, 2011
1:36 PM

Post #8806989

Great collection of heucheras and wonderful pictures. I have added to my wish list.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2012
12:53 AM

Post #8950963

Lovely pics! What is the mostly hardy plants for you?

postmandug

postmandug
Bardstown, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 7, 2012
6:19 AM

Post #8957867

Don't know about everyone else but I have given up on Melting Fire. I have lost three of them. Guess the ones with Fire in the name don't like heat!!! Lost a Fire Chief too.

Doug
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

January 7, 2012
8:25 AM

Post #8958015

Doug

Last I knew, my Melting Fire was doing ok - I will not know until the March/April. I have been growing it for a couple of years and I don't think it is all that hardy a plant. Each year I am surprised it has come back. Definitely not one I would recommend. I haven't tried Fire Chief yet.

There are some other reds that I know are hardy and well worth the effort - Sparkling Burgundy, Crimson Curls and Encore to name a few.

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