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Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

September 7, 2011
5:59 AM

Post #8797365

I am SO pleased with my Thai Giant...I have a yardstick there for comparison.

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tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

September 7, 2011
2:40 PM

Post #8797972

yea anna..!!! great pic ..super looking thai giant..
ive grown them for only 3 yrs now..last yr was my most sucessful at getting a huge plant
last yr the leaves got to over 60" long and 3 1/2 ft wide.. i was in 7th heaven..:)
this yr..its been an odd one..
all my EE did well.. but not huge.. and they all sent off pups.. like alot of them..
i think one of my thai giants has 7 or 8 pups off it..and they are good sized..
how are you going to keep your thai giant overwinter???
u must have similar weather ..maybe even colder than i have here in provo,utah...???
good growing anna !!!!
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

September 7, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8798156

I am in the tundra zone...gets to -20 during the winter and usually lots of snow. BUT...with a 30x64 greenhouse...:>)
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 10, 2012
5:30 PM

Post #9077582

anna..?? hows the weather up there this spring??
did u have a mild winter?? we sure did here..
last little while has been great.. to soon to plant any tropicals out..
but ive been potting up overwintered bareroot EE..and hauling overwintered potted
up ones out on nice days..which has been quite a few lately..
today i think it got to 80F..thats warm for april ...
i potted up most of my bananas too.. oh my aching back.. LOL
what we do for our plants.. :)
hope your EE are doing well!!!!
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 10, 2012
5:32 PM

Post #9077588

Yes, I have many. Mild winter here, and temps in the 80's the end of March. Crazy weather. Now it is more like March weather. LOL Calling for frost again tonight and tomorrow night. I think we had some last night too. I covered my new flowering magnolia and my honeysuckle.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 10, 2012
5:38 PM

Post #9077600

anna..?? did you overwinter any thai giants?? how did they do??
what was your method of overwintering them???
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 10, 2012
7:01 PM

Post #9077677

Putting them in the greenhouse in the pots they were in during the summer. I leave all the alo's and colo's in the pots.
juliep127
Louisville, KY

April 15, 2012
6:56 PM

Post #9083969

I have a Thailand Giant. I just dig it up and put it in the garage. I just put it back out. My black Diamond elephant ear, Mojitos elephant ear, cannas, colocsaias, callas, banana(Musa) pink China elephant ear, black pearl all came back. I mulch about 8 inches cut them down after a freeze and they usually come back. I am afraid to leave the Thailand Giant out. It is one of my favorites. Happy Gardening!!

juliep127
Louisville, KY

April 15, 2012
6:58 PM

Post #9083971

Anna, I don't have a greenhouse, but I am curious as to how it works? How do keep pests out such as spider mites, white flies etc. I thought about getting one but I was concerned with pests. Thank You, Julie
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 15, 2012
7:13 PM

Post #9083988

Oh, I have "livestock" in the g'house...I spray quite a bit. With bringing in other people's plants, the variety is endless...LOL Mostly whiteflies this year, and a few aphids. I need to spray tomorrow again. Oh, and some spider mites on some of the brugs. They are not all affected.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 26, 2012
8:22 PM

Post #9099429

i always have spider mites overwinter..i use cinnamon..and seems to help a bit..and
prevent molding..
ive taken my EE out several days now..(still potted up)..and hosed them down..
gets rid of the spider mites ..:)
hopefully we get rain from this storm comming in tonite..lawn sure could use it..
looking foward to putting my tropicals out.. hopefully they get HUGE this summer..
if weather cooperates..
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 26, 2012
8:50 PM

Post #9099466

Some of my are huge in the greenhouse. LOL They really look cool, tho, when I put them out in May and they are 5-6 feet tall.
juliep127
Louisville, KY

May 7, 2012
10:34 AM

Post #9114074

Tropicalnutt777, Thanks for that idea of cinnamon. I know it is good for rotting bulbs etc. I will try that. :)
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 1, 2012
5:56 PM

Post #9148316

well all my tropicals are in..sigh..LOL last yr i got a ton of pups ..
were having a pretty nice early summer..on the warmer side..but im good
with that.. almost 90F today..higher tomorrow..
could go for some rain though... :)
hopefully my thai giants get GIANT this yr !!!!
i could go for huge plants.and not all the pups this yr !!!
who do i put that order in to??? LOL :)
smurf428
cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

June 15, 2012
8:23 PM

Post #9167093

question for you thai giant owners... I have been gowning ears for a few years now, i want to add this one to my collection, but sadly it wont be till next spring.. I'm just wondering can i expect a pup in the first season?? i've read these dont pup very often but you folks seem to have said differently, so now i'm wondering how true the info i got was... I know theres many factors and conditions in weather i will get one but is it possible?? has anyone not got a pup in a season?? I've also read these are rather hard to grow, are they really any different then other ears..

thanks
jen
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2012
8:35 PM

Post #9167106

for me here in utah..i have no trouble growing thais.. during spring/summer/fall.. my challenge
has been best way to overwinter them..
i would think down in AL you could overwinter them outside..lucky U !!!
this last winter i was very sucessful overwintering them.. yea..sort of..i have over 20 thais..
i lost ..from overwintering.. 2 yrs ago the really nice thais i had.. i got several from a super grower..
..im sure they were 1 season old.. and last summer all my thai giants pupped..
they didnt get as big as they usually do..but i think part of that was i didnt water them as well as
i should have.. and..im pretty sure i underfertilized them too..
not making that mistake this yr.. im learning..:)
i grow mine in full sun.. i make my own compost.. so alot of compost goes into the gardens ..
im sure they appreciate that..
dont give up on trying them.. they are spectacular when they get huge !!!
good luck to ya...
smurf428
cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

June 16, 2012
8:38 PM

Post #9168205

i have to over winter them as well, to cold here to leave them out.. However saying that my overwintering would be different from yours.. I moved from canada last july so i know what over wintering is like in a cooler climate, dont miss that lol...i had my ears in a home made greenhouse last winter made from vapor barrier and pvc pipes, lost 6 ears of different types when i forgot to turn the heater on, i almost cried.. I could just have put them in the garage, and i think they would have been fine... I wanted to get them this year, but we'll be moving before spring and i wanted to just wait till were settled in the new place before i order them.. i never fertilize my plants i know, i know, i should, but i just give them miracle grow and they always seem fine.. My hubby is very excited to grow these next year, some days i think even more then i am lol...
jen
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2012
5:46 PM

Post #9180846

hows everyones thai giants doing so far??
i think i might get some HUGE plants this yr..
YEA !!! :)
im sure its a combination of alot of factors.. but one i can have some
control of.. fertilizing..
i really think i keep my tropicals.. EE.. thai giants on a diet.. a low cal diet...
LOL what the *(&(^)*()&*(# is wrong with me.. LOL
i was chatting with a friend down in MS ,shes a aroid nut..like us.. :)
back and forth emails..and she emailed me back..
FEED THOSE HUNGRY BABIES !!!!
so.. im doing so.. and the new leaves last 10+ days.. are much bigger.. and
the plant stems are growing in girth..etc..
so..i'll see if i get some monsters by sept..
sure hope so..
how are u all doing????
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 25, 2012
8:48 PM

Post #9181184

Soooooo...what is the food of choice????
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 26, 2012
1:56 PM

Post #9182292

lol.. :) im using same fertilizer..just not diluting it down as i have..
i use my own compost tea (rabbit manure,alfalfa meal),with kelp powder,
and 20:20:20 with minor elements.. i use 1/2 full 5 gal bucket.. add the fertilizer
5 tsp to 5 gal..and fill with water what is left from the manure tea...
im so bad.. LOL
?? what are u using as food??
heres hoping i end up with some giant EE this yr !!!! :)
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 26, 2012
3:01 PM

Post #9182355

Just MG, tho I really need to get some urea. That makes GINORMOUS leaves.

1 T. urea per gal. of water, and watch 'em grow.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 26, 2012
3:16 PM

Post #9182370

You need to be careful with urea. It's very high in nitrogen and can produce rapid but very weak growth.
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 26, 2012
8:26 PM

Post #9182813

not a problem since I wasn't *that* diligent. LOL
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 28, 2012
7:17 PM

Post #9185541

anna.. when u use urea..do u make your own fertilizer mix..
do you have a recipe you follow?
ive thought of trying mixing my own..but always figured id miss something
that the premixed ones have all there..
our EE certainly do respond to "higher" levels of N..
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 28, 2012
7:55 PM

Post #9185582

I just talked nice to the salesman that sold the Spousal Unit all his fertilizer and chemicals and he gave me 10 pounds of urea. Didn't kill him to do that, since we usually dropped about 30 grand on crop expenses. LOL
juliep127
Louisville, KY

June 29, 2012
2:53 PM

Post #9186611

My Thailand Giant has a pup!!!! woohoo!!!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 29, 2012
3:01 PM

Post #9186626

:) way to go juliep!!! :)
i never knew they pupped/sent out side shoots..until last yr.. and a good
discussion came of it.. from many very experienced growers..yea!!
keep us posted on size of the mother plant.. last yr..almost all my EE "pupped"
but never got really that big.. good sized..but not GIANTS..im use to..
i attribute some..maybe alot to my not fertilizing them as well as i should..
not making that mistake this yr..
i want MONSTERS !!! :) LOL
and so far..they are on their way.. :)
one thing juliep.. you will end up with tons of plants next yr..
i dont remember how many EE (of all kinds,alocasia,colocasia,xanthosomas) i had
last yr..but i would be safe to say..not 30.. this yr.. i have over 140.. LOL
ive been eying the property next to me.. wish it would go up for sale.. :)
good luck to you juliep !!!
juliep127
Louisville, KY

June 29, 2012
3:10 PM

Post #9186633

Tropicalnut777, I grow all different EEs. The Thailand Giant I dig up every year. I have only had it 2 yrs. I have Pink Chinas, I have black Pearl, Teacups, I have regular EEs and they stay in the ground. Our winter gets very cold but I mulch 8 inches and they come back. My bananas and cannas do too!!! I dont feed them diligently. I guess I should. Happy Gardening!!
juliep127
Louisville, KY

June 29, 2012
3:12 PM

Post #9186635

Tropicalnutt777, I also have uprights that are 6ft tall in pots, black stemed and others!!!!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 29, 2012
5:31 PM

Post #9186760

juliep..arent they fun!! love these tropicals..
i just started growing amorphophallus' now..
they are great..
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2012
7:26 PM

Post #9224284

my thais are doing ok..i dont think theyre going to be huge this yr..sigh..again..tons of
pups.. again..LOL
one EE that is getting giant are my jacks giants.. one of my bigger plants last unfolded
leaves was 46in long.. and we still have all of august..and sept.. YEA !!!
my xanthos are doing good too.. and lari anns robodoras are doing good too..
?? wonder why my thai giants are ..??
same soil, same sun,same fertilizing... weve had a pretty windy summer.. i dont know
if the wind has bothered them.?? or im just thinking to much on this..LOL
LhasaLover
(Tammie) Odessa, TX
(Zone 7b)

September 11, 2012
2:44 PM

Post #9272207

Would these grow in an 18 gallon big tub well? I have always wanted something like this that has big beautiful leaves. I have an indoor atrium or my mothers greenhouse it could be brought into for the winter. Where can they be found to start with?
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

September 11, 2012
3:06 PM

Post #9272230

i think thats plenty big a pot.. use good compost,peat/or coir.. and perlite to lighten the mix
and help with good drainage..
u should try thai giant..they are mor spread out..(typical colocasia habit..unlike alocasia which are more
upright)..
several good sources.. i think brians botanicals is WONDERFUL ..ebay has some good sources..
and if they are given good soil,plenty of watering,and warmth..they grow fast...:)
good luck to ya..
let us know how they do for you...
dj77
Canterbury, CT

September 19, 2012
9:26 AM

Post #9279988

Thought I'd post a pic of my Thai Giant. It was my first year growing it. I'm not sure how the heck I'm going to store it for the winter. The largest leaves measure 5' long by 4' 9" wide. It's a beast.

Donna

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tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

September 19, 2012
3:19 PM

Post #9280378

dj.. looks great !!! thai giants dont like to go dry overwintering.. unless you have a greenhouse
once leaves take frost and wilt..dig up..cut back leaves.. store in barely moist peat or i use shredded
leaves from fall..:) keep in cool room..mine overwintered great..around 50F so unless you have a
warm big spot to keep it.. try to get it to go semi dormant for winter..
again..great plant!! way to go !!!!!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

December 1, 2012
7:21 PM

Post #9347271

well everything is overwintering ok..so far.. not even mites..
i shouldnt say that out loud..LOL..:)
im anxious to get going again.. its a ways off for me here of course..
:( thinking of expanding one of my big raised beds.. its what we do up
here in the north..dream what many of u in the south enjoy all yr long..
hoitider
Emerald Isle, NC

December 2, 2012
10:15 AM

Post #9347670

Donna thats a Thai giant ,Ive got several along with 10 other varities of colocasia and alocasia,but my thais dont get that big,they say there are different strains you must have the jolly green giant LOL Hoitider
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

February 27, 2013
5:28 PM

Post #9434068

alls good on the western front here..
my EE's are doing great this winter.. last yr..i had a pretty good
infestation of spinder mites.. this yr..nothin..??? go figure..
the EE's plant bases are firm..lookin good..
its still real early here..
ive been kicking the idea around ??? what do u all think???
i usually pot up everything..get the roots started..then transplant out into
the gardens ..when last frost is over.. usually around early june..
i was thinking of just planting out ..skipping the potting up..
what do ya all think???? thanks...
hoitider
Emerald Isle, NC

February 28, 2013
5:56 AM

Post #9434327

Being in zone 5 I would not rush into it.There slow to start any way.I use to rush putting my caladiums out early till I lost them and iam in zone 8
now I wait till mothers day,Half of my thais are overwintering in the ground as well as many othe colocasia but I keep half in reserve potted up in my sun room garage and downstairs sunroom.Will see which gets the fastest start to bloom
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

February 28, 2013
5:55 PM

Post #9434960

That's a bit ambitious, if you normally put them out in June, still 3 months off. I had to defrost my freezer this morning, couldn't imagine my Xanthosomas being happy inside that, LOL.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

February 28, 2013
7:54 PM

Post #9435051

hey tropic !!! hope work isnt keeping you from your plants to much ..:)
im kicking around idea of using heat cables in beds where bananas,EE's
will go.. just to heat the soil up.. or even use clear plastic and solarize soil
to warm it up before plantings..
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

March 1, 2013
1:21 AM

Post #9435129

Definitely, my work keeps me from my plants far too much. And it also gives me the money that makes me buy even more plants so that there's even more that I'm neglecting. Work is a really terrible thing, LOL.

Solarisation is good, it wakes up the worms and micro-organisms getting the whole system working early. What I do (no need to warm up the soil here) is to put (diluted) molasses on the soil and water it in. That feeds and boosts the micro-organisms in the soil.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

March 1, 2013
6:34 AM

Post #9435298

ya..i hear ya on work.. its letting up some for me ..but last yr was really
busy ..
excellent posting on molasses use tropic.. ive used dried molasses..and
strap molasses in hose end sprayer for couple yrs..
it does feed the "bugs" in the soil and get them going..making for healthier
soil..
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 8, 2013
1:57 PM

Post #9443051

Why not use Black plastic? That stuff will set your soil on FIYA!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

March 8, 2013
2:58 PM

Post #9443111

ya..i guess ive just had clear plastic around..:)
i hate using herbicides..so when i have an area i want to get rid of
some weeds that mowing down,just doesnt do it.. i cut down..throw away
remains..cover with clear plastic ...during summer.. and those weeds be
cooked in a week.. yea !!!! :)
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

April 21, 2013
1:36 AM

Post #9491485

I had developed an addiction of collecting after collecting over 500+ varieties of hosta. i got my colocasia alocasia from well spring and if you had not bought from them they are having clearance right now. i think I have all of their variety.

I overwinter all my tropicals in the garage together with plumerias. it is a disease/ addiction.!!! LOL!!! I usually hire someone to bring them in and bring them out. i have a bad back and with my golf i have to take care of my back!! LOL!!!

My thai giant is doing great and has few pups as well as other species.

Happy gardening and it is 70--80's here now.

Belle
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 21, 2013
9:30 AM

Post #9491876

belle..send some of that warm weather my way !!! :)
i also get help pulling in all my tropicals in fall/autumn (for my bud in darwin) :)
i enjoy the planting.. i get some help putting in my biggest bananas.. but
everything else i do myself..
i agree belle..it is an addiction.. lol not such a bad one though..
i started with common EE's 7 or so yrs ago.. then read more..found better sources
for more interesting plants..bigger plants..
made some super gardening friends..all over the globe..:)
makes our world smaller somehow.. not such a bad thing..)
its about a month away before i can haul things out..
i pot up some alocasias/colocasias/xanthos.. to give them head start..
looks like most everything overwintered good.. stems are firm..most actually
are shooting out new leaves.. so.. sigh.. full garden this yr..
lol
btw belle.. those EE's will give you a TON of pups.. mine have last 2yrs..
i havent bought any EE's for awhile now.. even lari ann gardiners robusta
hybrid pupped for me last yr.. yea.. free plants !!!!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

April 21, 2013
3:25 PM

Post #9492193

Well, we're coming into late autumn here. Day temps are 36C, low this morning was 22C. My largest Xanthosoma is now about head height. I'll get a photo later in the week (it's Monday here now).
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2013
8:13 AM

Post #9506628

thought of potting up my EE's..but.. geesh..i didnt know i had so many
back there.. i have them in slightly heated back rooms of house..and basement..
so..i guess i'll just wait for warmer temps..and then..put them right in gardens in
back..
my ensete maurelli.. wow.. 2 of the bigger ones..are shooting out leaves..
one leaf is 4ft..lol.. "take it easy babi" "you'll get planted soon enough"
LOL
hope we have a good summer.. i see brian williams(brians botanicals) is having
a contest.."biggest leaf on 4 species of EE..
dont know if i'll take part.. i should..:)
any of u all going to???
EE's.. i think its.. good temps..not to much sun, good soil, TONS of fertilizing,
and LOTS of water.. good drainage of course..
i can do all that.. one thing i struggle with..is i get full sun where i plant..
this yr im going to put my big bananas on west side..EE's on east facing..and
hopefully they get a bit more filtered light..
my biggest alocasia borneo giant..(base of plant was 12" across at planting)
got way to much sun last yr..and just sat there.. :( poor babi.. i was a bad
parent..
hows things going down under tropic??? how bout pic on your xantho??
hint..hint..:)
i hope my robustas do well this yr.. they pupped alot last yr.. i think i'll cut them
off if i get them this yr..
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

May 3, 2013
9:27 AM

Post #9506701

I ordered a robusta from Lari Ann as well as Maharlika philodondron which will be mailed as soon as she gets my consent not to propagate and sell them .

Robustas!!! How many do you have?

My bananas are all out but not potted yet. One hire did not show up!!! The murelli is huge but no babies , I bought it 3 years ago for $100.00 !! Can you imagine spending that much for a banana!!! DH would faint if he knows how much I am spending for my addiction. At least it is not other types of addiction!! LOL!

How many varieties of bananas do you have. Do you have chinese yellow? I have tons of them but no flowers yey I've had them for 15 years and very prolific.

I will post pictures as soon I get back from vacation.

Happy gardening!!!

Belle
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2013
9:55 AM

Post #9506729

hey belle!!
im jealous you are having such nice weather.. we had snow here on
monday..sigh..LOL
summer will eventuallllllllllllllllly show up..i hope..:)
dont let your hubbie know u post on here..and he'll never know how
much $$$ u spend on plants..:) lol
we all have our addictions..
i got my X.robusta from a super nurseryman in lousiana.. they were big
plants and grew like weeds.. :) durio nursery..
also was very fair in shipping charges..cant say enough good about them!!!
how many varieties nanners..oh gooolie.. ensete maurelli,ensete glaucum,
sabas,kandarain,some species i got from good people on bananas.org,i lost the
markers..(my bad)
i gotta get pics on my nanners too..
back at ya belle on HAPPY GARDENING !!!!
dave
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

May 4, 2013
3:51 AM

Post #9507522

Luckily DH does not visit DG otherwise i am in trouble. He is not too strict with me as far as spending as long as I save for the rainy days.

When i was working and made decent $$ he always reminded me the set aside retirement funds and I am glad i did.

My on line pant orders are potted by the time he comes home from golf.

i checked out Durio nursery and I did not see any EE 's yet.

Happy gardening!!!
Belle

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