yea anna..!!! great pic ..super looking thai giant..
ive grown them for only 3 yrs now..last yr was my most sucessful at getting a huge plant
last yr the leaves got to over 60" long and 3 1/2 ft wide.. i was in 7th heaven..:)
this yr..its been an odd one..
all my EE did well.. but not huge.. and they all sent off pups.. like alot of them..
i think one of my thai giants has 7 or 8 pups off it..and they are good sized..
how are you going to keep your thai giant overwinter???
u must have similar weather ..maybe even colder than i have here in provo,utah...???
good growing anna !!!!
anna..?? hows the weather up there this spring??
did u have a mild winter?? we sure did here..
last little while has been great.. to soon to plant any tropicals out..
but ive been potting up overwintered bareroot EE..and hauling overwintered potted
up ones out on nice days..which has been quite a few lately..
today i think it got to 80F..thats warm for april ...
i potted up most of my bananas too.. oh my aching back.. LOL
what we do for our plants.. :)
hope your EE are doing well!!!!
Yes, I have many. Mild winter here, and temps in the 80's the end of March. Crazy weather. Now it is more like March weather. LOL Calling for frost again tonight and tomorrow night. I think we had some last night too. I covered my new flowering magnolia and my honeysuckle.
I have a Thailand Giant. I just dig it up and put it in the garage. I just put it back out. My black Diamond elephant ear, Mojitos elephant ear, cannas, colocsaias, callas, banana(Musa) pink China elephant ear, black pearl all came back. I mulch about 8 inches cut them down after a freeze and they usually come back. I am afraid to leave the Thailand Giant out. It is one of my favorites. Happy Gardening!!
Anna, I don't have a greenhouse, but I am curious as to how it works? How do keep pests out such as spider mites, white flies etc. I thought about getting one but I was concerned with pests. Thank You, Julie
Oh, I have "livestock" in the g'house...I spray quite a bit. With bringing in other people's plants, the variety is endless...LOL Mostly whiteflies this year, and a few aphids. I need to spray tomorrow again. Oh, and some spider mites on some of the brugs. They are not all affected.
i always have spider mites overwinter..i use cinnamon..and seems to help a bit..and
ive taken my EE out several days now..(still potted up)..and hosed them down..
gets rid of the spider mites ..:)
hopefully we get rain from this storm comming in tonite..lawn sure could use it..
looking foward to putting my tropicals out.. hopefully they get HUGE this summer..
if weather cooperates..
well all my tropicals are in..sigh..LOL last yr i got a ton of pups ..
were having a pretty nice early summer..on the warmer side..but im good
with that.. almost 90F today..higher tomorrow..
could go for some rain though... :)
hopefully my thai giants get GIANT this yr !!!!
i could go for huge plants.and not all the pups this yr !!!
who do i put that order in to??? LOL :)
question for you thai giant owners... I have been gowning ears for a few years now, i want to add this one to my collection, but sadly it wont be till next spring.. I'm just wondering can i expect a pup in the first season?? i've read these dont pup very often but you folks seem to have said differently, so now i'm wondering how true the info i got was... I know theres many factors and conditions in weather i will get one but is it possible?? has anyone not got a pup in a season?? I've also read these are rather hard to grow, are they really any different then other ears..
for me here in utah..i have no trouble growing thais.. during spring/summer/fall.. my challenge
has been best way to overwinter them..
i would think down in AL you could overwinter them outside..lucky U !!!
this last winter i was very sucessful overwintering them.. yea..sort of..i have over 20 thais..
i lost ..from overwintering.. 2 yrs ago the really nice thais i had.. i got several from a super grower..
..im sure they were 1 season old.. and last summer all my thai giants pupped..
they didnt get as big as they usually do..but i think part of that was i didnt water them as well as
i should have.. and..im pretty sure i underfertilized them too..
not making that mistake this yr.. im learning..:)
i grow mine in full sun.. i make my own compost.. so alot of compost goes into the gardens ..
im sure they appreciate that..
dont give up on trying them.. they are spectacular when they get huge !!!
good luck to ya...
i have to over winter them as well, to cold here to leave them out.. However saying that my overwintering would be different from yours.. I moved from canada last july so i know what over wintering is like in a cooler climate, dont miss that lol...i had my ears in a home made greenhouse last winter made from vapor barrier and pvc pipes, lost 6 ears of different types when i forgot to turn the heater on, i almost cried.. I could just have put them in the garage, and i think they would have been fine... I wanted to get them this year, but we'll be moving before spring and i wanted to just wait till were settled in the new place before i order them.. i never fertilize my plants i know, i know, i should, but i just give them miracle grow and they always seem fine.. My hubby is very excited to grow these next year, some days i think even more then i am lol...
hows everyones thai giants doing so far??
i think i might get some HUGE plants this yr..
YEA !!! :)
im sure its a combination of alot of factors.. but one i can have some
control of.. fertilizing..
i really think i keep my tropicals.. EE.. thai giants on a diet.. a low cal diet...
LOL what the *(&(^)*()&*(# is wrong with me.. LOL
i was chatting with a friend down in MS ,shes a aroid nut..like us.. :)
back and forth emails..and she emailed me back..
FEED THOSE HUNGRY BABIES !!!!
so.. im doing so.. and the new leaves last 10+ days.. are much bigger.. and
the plant stems are growing in girth..etc..
so..i'll see if i get some monsters by sept..
sure hope so..
how are u all doing????
lol.. :) im using same fertilizer..just not diluting it down as i have..
i use my own compost tea (rabbit manure,alfalfa meal),with kelp powder,
and 20:20:20 with minor elements.. i use 1/2 full 5 gal bucket.. add the fertilizer
5 tsp to 5 gal..and fill with water what is left from the manure tea...
im so bad.. LOL
?? what are u using as food??
heres hoping i end up with some giant EE this yr !!!! :)
anna.. when u use urea..do u make your own fertilizer mix..
do you have a recipe you follow?
ive thought of trying mixing my own..but always figured id miss something
that the premixed ones have all there..
our EE certainly do respond to "higher" levels of N..
I just talked nice to the salesman that sold the Spousal Unit all his fertilizer and chemicals and he gave me 10 pounds of urea. Didn't kill him to do that, since we usually dropped about 30 grand on crop expenses. LOL
:) way to go juliep!!! :)
i never knew they pupped/sent out side shoots..until last yr.. and a good
discussion came of it.. from many very experienced growers..yea!!
keep us posted on size of the mother plant.. last yr..almost all my EE "pupped"
but never got really that big.. good sized..but not GIANTS..im use to..
i attribute some..maybe alot to my not fertilizing them as well as i should..
not making that mistake this yr..
i want MONSTERS !!! :) LOL
and so far..they are on their way.. :)
one thing juliep.. you will end up with tons of plants next yr..
i dont remember how many EE (of all kinds,alocasia,colocasia,xanthosomas) i had
last yr..but i would be safe to say..not 30.. this yr.. i have over 140.. LOL
ive been eying the property next to me.. wish it would go up for sale.. :)
good luck to you juliep !!!
Tropicalnut777, I grow all different EEs. The Thailand Giant I dig up every year. I have only had it 2 yrs. I have Pink Chinas, I have black Pearl, Teacups, I have regular EEs and they stay in the ground. Our winter gets very cold but I mulch 8 inches and they come back. My bananas and cannas do too!!! I dont feed them diligently. I guess I should. Happy Gardening!!
my thais are doing ok..i dont think theyre going to be huge this yr..sigh..again..tons of
one EE that is getting giant are my jacks giants.. one of my bigger plants last unfolded
leaves was 46in long.. and we still have all of august..and sept.. YEA !!!
my xanthos are doing good too.. and lari anns robodoras are doing good too..
?? wonder why my thai giants are ..??
same soil, same sun,same fertilizing... weve had a pretty windy summer.. i dont know
if the wind has bothered them.?? or im just thinking to much on this..LOL
Would these grow in an 18 gallon big tub well? I have always wanted something like this that has big beautiful leaves. I have an indoor atrium or my mothers greenhouse it could be brought into for the winter. Where can they be found to start with?
i think thats plenty big a pot.. use good compost,peat/or coir.. and perlite to lighten the mix
and help with good drainage..
u should try thai giant..they are mor spread out..(typical colocasia habit..unlike alocasia which are more
several good sources.. i think brians botanicals is WONDERFUL ..ebay has some good sources..
and if they are given good soil,plenty of watering,and warmth..they grow fast...:)
good luck to ya..
let us know how they do for you...
Thought I'd post a pic of my Thai Giant. It was my first year growing it. I'm not sure how the heck I'm going to store it for the winter. The largest leaves measure 5' long by 4' 9" wide. It's a beast.
dj.. looks great !!! thai giants dont like to go dry overwintering.. unless you have a greenhouse
once leaves take frost and wilt..dig up..cut back leaves.. store in barely moist peat or i use shredded
leaves from fall..:) keep in cool room..mine overwintered great..around 50F so unless you have a
warm big spot to keep it.. try to get it to go semi dormant for winter..
again..great plant!! way to go !!!!!
well everything is overwintering ok..so far.. not even mites..
i shouldnt say that out loud..LOL..:)
im anxious to get going again.. its a ways off for me here of course..
:( thinking of expanding one of my big raised beds.. its what we do up
here in the north..dream what many of u in the south enjoy all yr long..
Donna thats a Thai giant ,Ive got several along with 10 other varities of colocasia and alocasia,but my thais dont get that big,they say there are different strains you must have the jolly green giant LOL Hoitider
alls good on the western front here..
my EE's are doing great this winter.. last yr..i had a pretty good
infestation of spinder mites.. this yr..nothin..??? go figure..
the EE's plant bases are firm..lookin good..
its still real early here..
ive been kicking the idea around ??? what do u all think???
i usually pot up everything..get the roots started..then transplant out into
the gardens ..when last frost is over.. usually around early june..
i was thinking of just planting out ..skipping the potting up..
what do ya all think???? thanks...
Being in zone 5 I would not rush into it.There slow to start any way.I use to rush putting my caladiums out early till I lost them and iam in zone 8
now I wait till mothers day,Half of my thais are overwintering in the ground as well as many othe colocasia but I keep half in reserve potted up in my sun room garage and downstairs sunroom.Will see which gets the fastest start to bloom
hey tropic !!! hope work isnt keeping you from your plants to much ..:)
im kicking around idea of using heat cables in beds where bananas,EE's
will go.. just to heat the soil up.. or even use clear plastic and solarize soil
to warm it up before plantings..
Definitely, my work keeps me from my plants far too much. And it also gives me the money that makes me buy even more plants so that there's even more that I'm neglecting. Work is a really terrible thing, LOL.
Solarisation is good, it wakes up the worms and micro-organisms getting the whole system working early. What I do (no need to warm up the soil here) is to put (diluted) molasses on the soil and water it in. That feeds and boosts the micro-organisms in the soil.
ya..i hear ya on work.. its letting up some for me ..but last yr was really
excellent posting on molasses use tropic.. ive used dried molasses..and
strap molasses in hose end sprayer for couple yrs..
it does feed the "bugs" in the soil and get them going..making for healthier
ya..i guess ive just had clear plastic around..:)
i hate using herbicides..so when i have an area i want to get rid of
some weeds that mowing down,just doesnt do it.. i cut down..throw away
remains..cover with clear plastic ...during summer.. and those weeds be
cooked in a week.. yea !!!! :)
I had developed an addiction of collecting after collecting over 500+ varieties of hosta. i got my colocasia alocasia from well spring and if you had not bought from them they are having clearance right now. i think I have all of their variety.
I overwinter all my tropicals in the garage together with plumerias. it is a disease/ addiction.!!! LOL!!! I usually hire someone to bring them in and bring them out. i have a bad back and with my golf i have to take care of my back!! LOL!!!
My thai giant is doing great and has few pups as well as other species.
belle..send some of that warm weather my way !!! :)
i also get help pulling in all my tropicals in fall/autumn (for my bud in darwin) :)
i enjoy the planting.. i get some help putting in my biggest bananas.. but
everything else i do myself..
i agree belle..it is an addiction.. lol not such a bad one though..
i started with common EE's 7 or so yrs ago.. then read more..found better sources
for more interesting plants..bigger plants..
made some super gardening friends..all over the globe..:)
makes our world smaller somehow.. not such a bad thing..)
its about a month away before i can haul things out..
i pot up some alocasias/colocasias/xanthos.. to give them head start..
looks like most everything overwintered good.. stems are firm..most actually
are shooting out new leaves.. so.. sigh.. full garden this yr..
btw belle.. those EE's will give you a TON of pups.. mine have last 2yrs..
i havent bought any EE's for awhile now.. even lari ann gardiners robusta
hybrid pupped for me last yr.. yea.. free plants !!!!
thought of potting up my EE's..but.. geesh..i didnt know i had so many
back there.. i have them in slightly heated back rooms of house..and basement..
so..i guess i'll just wait for warmer temps..and then..put them right in gardens in
my ensete maurelli.. wow.. 2 of the bigger ones..are shooting out leaves..
one leaf is 4ft..lol.. "take it easy babi" "you'll get planted soon enough"
hope we have a good summer.. i see brian williams(brians botanicals) is having
a contest.."biggest leaf on 4 species of EE..
dont know if i'll take part.. i should..:)
any of u all going to???
EE's.. i think its.. good temps..not to much sun, good soil, TONS of fertilizing,
and LOTS of water.. good drainage of course..
i can do all that.. one thing i struggle with..is i get full sun where i plant..
this yr im going to put my big bananas on west side..EE's on east facing..and
hopefully they get a bit more filtered light..
my biggest alocasia borneo giant..(base of plant was 12" across at planting)
got way to much sun last yr..and just sat there.. :( poor babi.. i was a bad
hows things going down under tropic??? how bout pic on your xantho??
i hope my robustas do well this yr.. they pupped alot last yr.. i think i'll cut them
off if i get them this yr..
I ordered a robusta from Lari Ann as well as Maharlika philodondron which will be mailed as soon as she gets my consent not to propagate and sell them .
Robustas!!! How many do you have?
My bananas are all out but not potted yet. One hire did not show up!!! The murelli is huge but no babies , I bought it 3 years ago for $100.00 !! Can you imagine spending that much for a banana!!! DH would faint if he knows how much I am spending for my addiction. At least it is not other types of addiction!! LOL!
How many varieties of bananas do you have. Do you have chinese yellow? I have tons of them but no flowers yey I've had them for 15 years and very prolific.
I will post pictures as soon I get back from vacation.
im jealous you are having such nice weather.. we had snow here on
summer will eventuallllllllllllllllly show up..i hope..:)
dont let your hubbie know u post on here..and he'll never know how
much $$$ u spend on plants..:) lol
we all have our addictions..
i got my X.robusta from a super nurseryman in lousiana.. they were big
plants and grew like weeds.. :) durio nursery..
also was very fair in shipping charges..cant say enough good about them!!!
how many varieties nanners..oh gooolie.. ensete maurelli,ensete glaucum,
sabas,kandarain,some species i got from good people on bananas.org,i lost the
i gotta get pics on my nanners too..
back at ya belle on HAPPY GARDENING !!!!
wow..its been over a yr since anyone has chatted up thai giant..
i have 6 in the gardens..outside..planted in the ground..
i ammended the soil heavy with compost..and pumice..
im going to be a good parent..and feed them heavy this yr..and see
if i get some giants this growing season..
who else is growing thai giant????
if you have good drainage,good compost rich potting mix..and keep it
moderately watered..not wet..dont let it dry out..
i have mine in full sun..i think they would appreciate a bit of part shade mid day though
but they seem to like alot of sun..
fertilize well..they are HEAVY feeders..and u will be amazed how big they can get in
just one growing season! :)
take pics and let us see how they are doing...
good luck to ya !!!!
Hmmm...don't know about anyone living in the city. I got mine from the farmer's chemical/fertilizer place where we got our crop "necessities". I sort of have to "plan ahead" and allow some time to do it because those little BB's of urea take a bit to dissolve. I even tried dissolving in a little hot water and it didn't make much of a difference.
as anna says most EE's do like heavy feeding..
i dont use urea..it comes in around 50:0:0 i like to use
a multipurpose fertilizer..heavier on the N..but still some P and K..along with
i use a 20:20:20 with minors,and i add urea to it..so im comming in around 30:20:20
there are some great sources online,ebay. many dont charge shipping too..:)
i also add kelp powder to my fertilizer routine..
my thai giants are on there 4th leaves now..were having some HOT weather now..and warm
nites..so these babies will really start to put on size..and fast..
3yrs ago..i started with 4"potted thai giants..and by sept..i had plants with leaves over
60inches long.. yea..thats fast !!!!
they were quite the attention grabber..:)
i'll start taking pics..and post.. hope u all will too.. hint..hint..:)
Anna, they're growing about 60 to 70 metres from my house. If they crowd me out of my bedroom from there I'm really in trouble, LOL.
Dave, my largest now has a trunk nearly a metre long, but it's laying along the ground. I was hoping it'd grow upright. I think the plant is too heavy and the soil too soft. I'm hoping we've come through the worst of the winter/dry season now. This mornings minimum temp was 19.1C. Last week it was around 14 to 15C. Fortunately our days are always over 30C so plants can get over the cold part of the day. Still no rain, and none likely until possibly September, but definitely some during October. Even the titanums are taking it in their stride. One of the smaller ones opened out in the coldest weather still "smiling". The other small one isn't showing signs of dormancy so I think it might be moving into its annual cycle. And the leaf cutting is still growing its tuber despite the cold. All happy little aroids.
Microb, you'll find Thai Giants are already in Hawaii. There's a Colocasia called Thai Giant, and also a Xanthosoma. You'll find both if you look. They'll even show up under other names, you need to know what to look out for. Hawaii is trying to "close the gate" on exotic invasive plants but they left their run far too late.
Well mine are potted up but I haven't fed them except what is in the potting soil. I better get with it.
My konjac fell over in the wind. I thought it was really protected but we got strong winds out of the NORTH! This is summer not suppose to get strong winds from the north. Anyway I propped it back up and so far everything looks ok.
We are going to be down in the 50's at night next week. We are having odd weather. Don't think the tomatoes, cantalopes, and tropicals are gonna like that.
i was reading on wunderground weather blog..about the artic vortex thats gonna
chill the mid part of the country early this week..no frosts..but chilly for july..:(
happygarden..we had a microburst last summer..late july..my 2 largest titanums..weighing in
over 200# with potting mix and all..were blown over..no damage to the corm or plant but..
i was also gonna suggest checking with foster botanical garden in honolulu..for thai giants..
last i was there they were very helpful..
i hope to have a couple days off ..sunday/monday..if so..i'll try to get some pics on my plants...
enjoy the heat reprieve joyce!!! :)
u get a cooling..here in west..next week..preliminary forcast is early part of week over 100F
sigh..gotta get my 2 can hat out and wear when im mowing the lawn..hehehehe..LOL
microb they won't ship between islands? I have been fortunate enough in years past to visit maui several times. It was my favorite place I have ever been. But I have been told it is way over built now. Probably been 10 years since my last visit.
Well right now it is about 95percent humidity and sunshine, you can barely take a breath! ugg..
I was just repoting some plants and sweating like I was running a 500 mile race! Yeap the arctic cold front will feel good for me.
Well back out to repot a couple of different black ee's. Will post some pics later.
Probably would ship from Oahu to Big Island. Problem now is invasive species. We have colonies of fire ants, cocqui frogs and giant black palm beetles making the news so moving plants between islands has become really sensitive. Fire ants started on Big Island and are now spreading on Oahu. Cocqui frogs are pretty much limited to Big Island and so far the palm beetles are limited to Oahu.
Never a dull moment for plant lovers.
i hear ya joyce..i mowed my lawn and neighbours this afternoon.. its 97F out there..
?? whats the saying,, only mad dogs and englishmen go out in midday sun..LOL
not sure which one i am..:) LOL
neighbour actually brought over some ice water..i have wonderful neighbours!! :)
ya.i moved all of my potted (small and medium sized pots) amorphophallus to back today..
whew..its hot!!! you will enjoy that cool down when it shows..
ive been mulching all my vegy plants now..i use neighbours grass clippings,straw,leaves..
i gotta get out tomorrow morning and take some pics..
everyone stay 'cool" in this heat...
send some of that rain our way joyce...
its clouding up..but forcast says..nadda.. sigh.. :(
ya..i find best pics taking mid morning..or late afternoon.. otherwise
sun here is way to bright..and i get pics with alot of glare..
anxious to see your pics..
joyce..hope u did get plant/s you actually ordered..
ive never ordered from logee's..i am a HUGE fan of brians botanicals..and
a wonderful gal down in mississippi..
makes me wonder this year.. my good gal down in ms.. with the wet winter they had..she
didnt have any plants for sale this yr.. :( sigh..and she was growing out some nice
big alocasias..i wanted my hands on.. sigh..
hers are field grown..i think thats why they are tougher than greenhouse plants..they
"hardening off" of her plants is almost nothing for me..
on ebay..ive seen no jacks giants.. few big alocasias up for bid/sale..
many had thai giants..so guess a good yr for them..???
joyce.. great looking plants!!!! i think the "thai giant " you have looks like a young
thai giant.. my experience with them is with each progressive "larger" leaf they get more
wide..and BIGGER!!! :) heeeheh
?? is that your field of corn in the back of pic 3?? thats alot of corn..:)
your other plants..nanners,etc.. look great..
you seem to be doing a super job!!!