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Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

September 7, 2011
5:59 AM

Post #8797365

I am SO pleased with my Thai Giant...I have a yardstick there for comparison.

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tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

September 7, 2011
2:40 PM

Post #8797972

yea anna..!!! great pic ..super looking thai giant..
ive grown them for only 3 yrs now..last yr was my most sucessful at getting a huge plant
last yr the leaves got to over 60" long and 3 1/2 ft wide.. i was in 7th heaven..:)
this yr..its been an odd one..
all my EE did well.. but not huge.. and they all sent off pups.. like alot of them..
i think one of my thai giants has 7 or 8 pups off it..and they are good sized..
how are you going to keep your thai giant overwinter???
u must have similar weather ..maybe even colder than i have here in provo,utah...???
good growing anna !!!!
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

September 7, 2011
5:04 PM

Post #8798156

I am in the tundra zone...gets to -20 during the winter and usually lots of snow. BUT...with a 30x64 greenhouse...:>)
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 10, 2012
5:30 PM

Post #9077582

anna..?? hows the weather up there this spring??
did u have a mild winter?? we sure did here..
last little while has been great.. to soon to plant any tropicals out..
but ive been potting up overwintered bareroot EE..and hauling overwintered potted
up ones out on nice days..which has been quite a few lately..
today i think it got to 80F..thats warm for april ...
i potted up most of my bananas too.. oh my aching back.. LOL
what we do for our plants.. :)
hope your EE are doing well!!!!
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 10, 2012
5:32 PM

Post #9077588

Yes, I have many. Mild winter here, and temps in the 80's the end of March. Crazy weather. Now it is more like March weather. LOL Calling for frost again tonight and tomorrow night. I think we had some last night too. I covered my new flowering magnolia and my honeysuckle.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 10, 2012
5:38 PM

Post #9077600

anna..?? did you overwinter any thai giants?? how did they do??
what was your method of overwintering them???
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 10, 2012
7:01 PM

Post #9077677

Putting them in the greenhouse in the pots they were in during the summer. I leave all the alo's and colo's in the pots.
juliep127
Louisville, KY

April 15, 2012
6:56 PM

Post #9083969

I have a Thailand Giant. I just dig it up and put it in the garage. I just put it back out. My black Diamond elephant ear, Mojitos elephant ear, cannas, colocsaias, callas, banana(Musa) pink China elephant ear, black pearl all came back. I mulch about 8 inches cut them down after a freeze and they usually come back. I am afraid to leave the Thailand Giant out. It is one of my favorites. Happy Gardening!!

juliep127
Louisville, KY

April 15, 2012
6:58 PM

Post #9083971

Anna, I don't have a greenhouse, but I am curious as to how it works? How do keep pests out such as spider mites, white flies etc. I thought about getting one but I was concerned with pests. Thank You, Julie
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 15, 2012
7:13 PM

Post #9083988

Oh, I have "livestock" in the g'house...I spray quite a bit. With bringing in other people's plants, the variety is endless...LOL Mostly whiteflies this year, and a few aphids. I need to spray tomorrow again. Oh, and some spider mites on some of the brugs. They are not all affected.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 26, 2012
8:22 PM

Post #9099429

i always have spider mites overwinter..i use cinnamon..and seems to help a bit..and
prevent molding..
ive taken my EE out several days now..(still potted up)..and hosed them down..
gets rid of the spider mites ..:)
hopefully we get rain from this storm comming in tonite..lawn sure could use it..
looking foward to putting my tropicals out.. hopefully they get HUGE this summer..
if weather cooperates..
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

April 26, 2012
8:50 PM

Post #9099466

Some of my are huge in the greenhouse. LOL They really look cool, tho, when I put them out in May and they are 5-6 feet tall.
juliep127
Louisville, KY

May 7, 2012
10:34 AM

Post #9114074

Tropicalnutt777, Thanks for that idea of cinnamon. I know it is good for rotting bulbs etc. I will try that. :)
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 1, 2012
5:56 PM

Post #9148316

well all my tropicals are in..sigh..LOL last yr i got a ton of pups ..
were having a pretty nice early summer..on the warmer side..but im good
with that.. almost 90F today..higher tomorrow..
could go for some rain though... :)
hopefully my thai giants get GIANT this yr !!!!
i could go for huge plants.and not all the pups this yr !!!
who do i put that order in to??? LOL :)
smurf428
cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

June 15, 2012
8:23 PM

Post #9167093

question for you thai giant owners... I have been gowning ears for a few years now, i want to add this one to my collection, but sadly it wont be till next spring.. I'm just wondering can i expect a pup in the first season?? i've read these dont pup very often but you folks seem to have said differently, so now i'm wondering how true the info i got was... I know theres many factors and conditions in weather i will get one but is it possible?? has anyone not got a pup in a season?? I've also read these are rather hard to grow, are they really any different then other ears..

thanks
jen
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 15, 2012
8:35 PM

Post #9167106

for me here in utah..i have no trouble growing thais.. during spring/summer/fall.. my challenge
has been best way to overwinter them..
i would think down in AL you could overwinter them outside..lucky U !!!
this last winter i was very sucessful overwintering them.. yea..sort of..i have over 20 thais..
i lost ..from overwintering.. 2 yrs ago the really nice thais i had.. i got several from a super grower..
..im sure they were 1 season old.. and last summer all my thai giants pupped..
they didnt get as big as they usually do..but i think part of that was i didnt water them as well as
i should have.. and..im pretty sure i underfertilized them too..
not making that mistake this yr.. im learning..:)
i grow mine in full sun.. i make my own compost.. so alot of compost goes into the gardens ..
im sure they appreciate that..
dont give up on trying them.. they are spectacular when they get huge !!!
good luck to ya...
smurf428
cullman, AL
(Zone 7b)

June 16, 2012
8:38 PM

Post #9168205

i have to over winter them as well, to cold here to leave them out.. However saying that my overwintering would be different from yours.. I moved from canada last july so i know what over wintering is like in a cooler climate, dont miss that lol...i had my ears in a home made greenhouse last winter made from vapor barrier and pvc pipes, lost 6 ears of different types when i forgot to turn the heater on, i almost cried.. I could just have put them in the garage, and i think they would have been fine... I wanted to get them this year, but we'll be moving before spring and i wanted to just wait till were settled in the new place before i order them.. i never fertilize my plants i know, i know, i should, but i just give them miracle grow and they always seem fine.. My hubby is very excited to grow these next year, some days i think even more then i am lol...
jen
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2012
5:46 PM

Post #9180846

hows everyones thai giants doing so far??
i think i might get some HUGE plants this yr..
YEA !!! :)
im sure its a combination of alot of factors.. but one i can have some
control of.. fertilizing..
i really think i keep my tropicals.. EE.. thai giants on a diet.. a low cal diet...
LOL what the *(&(^)*()&*(# is wrong with me.. LOL
i was chatting with a friend down in MS ,shes a aroid nut..like us.. :)
back and forth emails..and she emailed me back..
FEED THOSE HUNGRY BABIES !!!!
so.. im doing so.. and the new leaves last 10+ days.. are much bigger.. and
the plant stems are growing in girth..etc..
so..i'll see if i get some monsters by sept..
sure hope so..
how are u all doing????
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 25, 2012
8:48 PM

Post #9181184

Soooooo...what is the food of choice????
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 26, 2012
1:56 PM

Post #9182292

lol.. :) im using same fertilizer..just not diluting it down as i have..
i use my own compost tea (rabbit manure,alfalfa meal),with kelp powder,
and 20:20:20 with minor elements.. i use 1/2 full 5 gal bucket.. add the fertilizer
5 tsp to 5 gal..and fill with water what is left from the manure tea...
im so bad.. LOL
?? what are u using as food??
heres hoping i end up with some giant EE this yr !!!! :)
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 26, 2012
3:01 PM

Post #9182355

Just MG, tho I really need to get some urea. That makes GINORMOUS leaves.

1 T. urea per gal. of water, and watch 'em grow.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 26, 2012
3:16 PM

Post #9182370

You need to be careful with urea. It's very high in nitrogen and can produce rapid but very weak growth.
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 26, 2012
8:26 PM

Post #9182813

not a problem since I wasn't *that* diligent. LOL
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 28, 2012
7:17 PM

Post #9185541

anna.. when u use urea..do u make your own fertilizer mix..
do you have a recipe you follow?
ive thought of trying mixing my own..but always figured id miss something
that the premixed ones have all there..
our EE certainly do respond to "higher" levels of N..
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

June 28, 2012
7:55 PM

Post #9185582

I just talked nice to the salesman that sold the Spousal Unit all his fertilizer and chemicals and he gave me 10 pounds of urea. Didn't kill him to do that, since we usually dropped about 30 grand on crop expenses. LOL
juliep127
Louisville, KY

June 29, 2012
2:53 PM

Post #9186611

My Thailand Giant has a pup!!!! woohoo!!!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 29, 2012
3:01 PM

Post #9186626

:) way to go juliep!!! :)
i never knew they pupped/sent out side shoots..until last yr.. and a good
discussion came of it.. from many very experienced growers..yea!!
keep us posted on size of the mother plant.. last yr..almost all my EE "pupped"
but never got really that big.. good sized..but not GIANTS..im use to..
i attribute some..maybe alot to my not fertilizing them as well as i should..
not making that mistake this yr..
i want MONSTERS !!! :) LOL
and so far..they are on their way.. :)
one thing juliep.. you will end up with tons of plants next yr..
i dont remember how many EE (of all kinds,alocasia,colocasia,xanthosomas) i had
last yr..but i would be safe to say..not 30.. this yr.. i have over 140.. LOL
ive been eying the property next to me.. wish it would go up for sale.. :)
good luck to you juliep !!!
juliep127
Louisville, KY

June 29, 2012
3:10 PM

Post #9186633

Tropicalnut777, I grow all different EEs. The Thailand Giant I dig up every year. I have only had it 2 yrs. I have Pink Chinas, I have black Pearl, Teacups, I have regular EEs and they stay in the ground. Our winter gets very cold but I mulch 8 inches and they come back. My bananas and cannas do too!!! I dont feed them diligently. I guess I should. Happy Gardening!!
juliep127
Louisville, KY

June 29, 2012
3:12 PM

Post #9186635

Tropicalnutt777, I also have uprights that are 6ft tall in pots, black stemed and others!!!!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 29, 2012
5:31 PM

Post #9186760

juliep..arent they fun!! love these tropicals..
i just started growing amorphophallus' now..
they are great..
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2012
7:26 PM

Post #9224284

my thais are doing ok..i dont think theyre going to be huge this yr..sigh..again..tons of
pups.. again..LOL
one EE that is getting giant are my jacks giants.. one of my bigger plants last unfolded
leaves was 46in long.. and we still have all of august..and sept.. YEA !!!
my xanthos are doing good too.. and lari anns robodoras are doing good too..
?? wonder why my thai giants are ..??
same soil, same sun,same fertilizing... weve had a pretty windy summer.. i dont know
if the wind has bothered them.?? or im just thinking to much on this..LOL
LhasaLover
(Tammie) Odessa, TX
(Zone 7b)

September 11, 2012
2:44 PM

Post #9272207

Would these grow in an 18 gallon big tub well? I have always wanted something like this that has big beautiful leaves. I have an indoor atrium or my mothers greenhouse it could be brought into for the winter. Where can they be found to start with?
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

September 11, 2012
3:06 PM

Post #9272230

i think thats plenty big a pot.. use good compost,peat/or coir.. and perlite to lighten the mix
and help with good drainage..
u should try thai giant..they are mor spread out..(typical colocasia habit..unlike alocasia which are more
upright)..
several good sources.. i think brians botanicals is WONDERFUL ..ebay has some good sources..
and if they are given good soil,plenty of watering,and warmth..they grow fast...:)
good luck to ya..
let us know how they do for you...
dj77
Canterbury, CT

September 19, 2012
9:26 AM

Post #9279988

Thought I'd post a pic of my Thai Giant. It was my first year growing it. I'm not sure how the heck I'm going to store it for the winter. The largest leaves measure 5' long by 4' 9" wide. It's a beast.

Donna

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tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

September 19, 2012
3:19 PM

Post #9280378

dj.. looks great !!! thai giants dont like to go dry overwintering.. unless you have a greenhouse
once leaves take frost and wilt..dig up..cut back leaves.. store in barely moist peat or i use shredded
leaves from fall..:) keep in cool room..mine overwintered great..around 50F so unless you have a
warm big spot to keep it.. try to get it to go semi dormant for winter..
again..great plant!! way to go !!!!!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

December 1, 2012
7:21 PM

Post #9347271

well everything is overwintering ok..so far.. not even mites..
i shouldnt say that out loud..LOL..:)
im anxious to get going again.. its a ways off for me here of course..
:( thinking of expanding one of my big raised beds.. its what we do up
here in the north..dream what many of u in the south enjoy all yr long..
hoitider
Emerald Isle, NC

December 2, 2012
10:15 AM

Post #9347670

Donna thats a Thai giant ,Ive got several along with 10 other varities of colocasia and alocasia,but my thais dont get that big,they say there are different strains you must have the jolly green giant LOL Hoitider
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

February 27, 2013
5:28 PM

Post #9434068

alls good on the western front here..
my EE's are doing great this winter.. last yr..i had a pretty good
infestation of spinder mites.. this yr..nothin..??? go figure..
the EE's plant bases are firm..lookin good..
its still real early here..
ive been kicking the idea around ??? what do u all think???
i usually pot up everything..get the roots started..then transplant out into
the gardens ..when last frost is over.. usually around early june..
i was thinking of just planting out ..skipping the potting up..
what do ya all think???? thanks...
hoitider
Emerald Isle, NC

February 28, 2013
5:56 AM

Post #9434327

Being in zone 5 I would not rush into it.There slow to start any way.I use to rush putting my caladiums out early till I lost them and iam in zone 8
now I wait till mothers day,Half of my thais are overwintering in the ground as well as many othe colocasia but I keep half in reserve potted up in my sun room garage and downstairs sunroom.Will see which gets the fastest start to bloom
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

February 28, 2013
5:55 PM

Post #9434960

That's a bit ambitious, if you normally put them out in June, still 3 months off. I had to defrost my freezer this morning, couldn't imagine my Xanthosomas being happy inside that, LOL.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

February 28, 2013
7:54 PM

Post #9435051

hey tropic !!! hope work isnt keeping you from your plants to much ..:)
im kicking around idea of using heat cables in beds where bananas,EE's
will go.. just to heat the soil up.. or even use clear plastic and solarize soil
to warm it up before plantings..
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

March 1, 2013
1:21 AM

Post #9435129

Definitely, my work keeps me from my plants far too much. And it also gives me the money that makes me buy even more plants so that there's even more that I'm neglecting. Work is a really terrible thing, LOL.

Solarisation is good, it wakes up the worms and micro-organisms getting the whole system working early. What I do (no need to warm up the soil here) is to put (diluted) molasses on the soil and water it in. That feeds and boosts the micro-organisms in the soil.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

March 1, 2013
6:34 AM

Post #9435298

ya..i hear ya on work.. its letting up some for me ..but last yr was really
busy ..
excellent posting on molasses use tropic.. ive used dried molasses..and
strap molasses in hose end sprayer for couple yrs..
it does feed the "bugs" in the soil and get them going..making for healthier
soil..
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 8, 2013
1:57 PM

Post #9443051

Why not use Black plastic? That stuff will set your soil on FIYA!
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

March 8, 2013
2:58 PM

Post #9443111

ya..i guess ive just had clear plastic around..:)
i hate using herbicides..so when i have an area i want to get rid of
some weeds that mowing down,just doesnt do it.. i cut down..throw away
remains..cover with clear plastic ...during summer.. and those weeds be
cooked in a week.. yea !!!! :)
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

April 21, 2013
1:36 AM

Post #9491485

I had developed an addiction of collecting after collecting over 500+ varieties of hosta. i got my colocasia alocasia from well spring and if you had not bought from them they are having clearance right now. i think I have all of their variety.

I overwinter all my tropicals in the garage together with plumerias. it is a disease/ addiction.!!! LOL!!! I usually hire someone to bring them in and bring them out. i have a bad back and with my golf i have to take care of my back!! LOL!!!

My thai giant is doing great and has few pups as well as other species.

Happy gardening and it is 70--80's here now.

Belle
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

April 21, 2013
9:30 AM

Post #9491876

belle..send some of that warm weather my way !!! :)
i also get help pulling in all my tropicals in fall/autumn (for my bud in darwin) :)
i enjoy the planting.. i get some help putting in my biggest bananas.. but
everything else i do myself..
i agree belle..it is an addiction.. lol not such a bad one though..
i started with common EE's 7 or so yrs ago.. then read more..found better sources
for more interesting plants..bigger plants..
made some super gardening friends..all over the globe..:)
makes our world smaller somehow.. not such a bad thing..)
its about a month away before i can haul things out..
i pot up some alocasias/colocasias/xanthos.. to give them head start..
looks like most everything overwintered good.. stems are firm..most actually
are shooting out new leaves.. so.. sigh.. full garden this yr..
lol
btw belle.. those EE's will give you a TON of pups.. mine have last 2yrs..
i havent bought any EE's for awhile now.. even lari ann gardiners robusta
hybrid pupped for me last yr.. yea.. free plants !!!!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

April 21, 2013
3:25 PM

Post #9492193

Well, we're coming into late autumn here. Day temps are 36C, low this morning was 22C. My largest Xanthosoma is now about head height. I'll get a photo later in the week (it's Monday here now).
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2013
8:13 AM

Post #9506628

thought of potting up my EE's..but.. geesh..i didnt know i had so many
back there.. i have them in slightly heated back rooms of house..and basement..
so..i guess i'll just wait for warmer temps..and then..put them right in gardens in
back..
my ensete maurelli.. wow.. 2 of the bigger ones..are shooting out leaves..
one leaf is 4ft..lol.. "take it easy babi" "you'll get planted soon enough"
LOL
hope we have a good summer.. i see brian williams(brians botanicals) is having
a contest.."biggest leaf on 4 species of EE..
dont know if i'll take part.. i should..:)
any of u all going to???
EE's.. i think its.. good temps..not to much sun, good soil, TONS of fertilizing,
and LOTS of water.. good drainage of course..
i can do all that.. one thing i struggle with..is i get full sun where i plant..
this yr im going to put my big bananas on west side..EE's on east facing..and
hopefully they get a bit more filtered light..
my biggest alocasia borneo giant..(base of plant was 12" across at planting)
got way to much sun last yr..and just sat there.. :( poor babi.. i was a bad
parent..
hows things going down under tropic??? how bout pic on your xantho??
hint..hint..:)
i hope my robustas do well this yr.. they pupped alot last yr.. i think i'll cut them
off if i get them this yr..
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

May 3, 2013
9:27 AM

Post #9506701

I ordered a robusta from Lari Ann as well as Maharlika philodondron which will be mailed as soon as she gets my consent not to propagate and sell them .

Robustas!!! How many do you have?

My bananas are all out but not potted yet. One hire did not show up!!! The murelli is huge but no babies , I bought it 3 years ago for $100.00 !! Can you imagine spending that much for a banana!!! DH would faint if he knows how much I am spending for my addiction. At least it is not other types of addiction!! LOL!

How many varieties of bananas do you have. Do you have chinese yellow? I have tons of them but no flowers yey I've had them for 15 years and very prolific.

I will post pictures as soon I get back from vacation.

Happy gardening!!!

Belle
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2013
9:55 AM

Post #9506729

hey belle!!
im jealous you are having such nice weather.. we had snow here on
monday..sigh..LOL
summer will eventuallllllllllllllllly show up..i hope..:)
dont let your hubbie know u post on here..and he'll never know how
much $$$ u spend on plants..:) lol
we all have our addictions..
i got my X.robusta from a super nurseryman in lousiana.. they were big
plants and grew like weeds.. :) durio nursery..
also was very fair in shipping charges..cant say enough good about them!!!
how many varieties nanners..oh gooolie.. ensete maurelli,ensete glaucum,
sabas,kandarain,some species i got from good people on bananas.org,i lost the
markers..(my bad)
i gotta get pics on my nanners too..
back at ya belle on HAPPY GARDENING !!!!
dave
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

May 4, 2013
3:51 AM

Post #9507522

Luckily DH does not visit DG otherwise i am in trouble. He is not too strict with me as far as spending as long as I save for the rainy days.

When i was working and made decent $$ he always reminded me the set aside retirement funds and I am glad i did.

My on line pant orders are potted by the time he comes home from golf.

i checked out Durio nursery and I did not see any EE 's yet.

Happy gardening!!!
Belle
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 21, 2014
4:30 PM

Post #9873962

wow..its been over a yr since anyone has chatted up thai giant..
i have 6 in the gardens..outside..planted in the ground..
i ammended the soil heavy with compost..and pumice..
im going to be a good parent..and feed them heavy this yr..and see
if i get some giants this growing season..
hope so..
who else is growing thai giant????
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 7, 2014
10:51 PM

Post #9888328

I just got one for my birthday. I potted into a bigger pot and now I am just waiting...I put it in miracle grow potting soil should I do anything else?
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 8, 2014
2:50 PM

Post #9888940

if you have good drainage,good compost rich potting mix..and keep it
moderately watered..not wet..dont let it dry out..
i have mine in full sun..i think they would appreciate a bit of part shade mid day though
but they seem to like alot of sun..
fertilize well..they are HEAVY feeders..and u will be amazed how big they can get in
just one growing season! :)
take pics and let us see how they are doing...
good luck to ya !!!!
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 8, 2014
3:02 PM

Post #9888944

What are you fertilizing with? That is something I never feel sure about. I use miracle grow on flowering plants.

I don't have compost but could buy some.
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

July 8, 2014
3:48 PM

Post #9888966

I am being more diligent with the 1 T. urea/gal of water with my EE's and any non-flowering plants.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 8, 2014
8:16 PM

Post #9889166

Where do you get it?
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

July 9, 2014
4:07 AM

Post #9889274

Hmmm...don't know about anyone living in the city. I got mine from the farmer's chemical/fertilizer place where we got our crop "necessities". I sort of have to "plan ahead" and allow some time to do it because those little BB's of urea take a bit to dissolve. I even tried dissolving in a little hot water and it didn't make much of a difference.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 9, 2014
4:50 PM

Post #9889781

as anna says most EE's do like heavy feeding..
i dont use urea..it comes in around 50:0:0 i like to use
a multipurpose fertilizer..heavier on the N..but still some P and K..along with
minor minerals..
i use a 20:20:20 with minors,and i add urea to it..so im comming in around 30:20:20
there are some great sources online,ebay. many dont charge shipping too..:)
i also add kelp powder to my fertilizer routine..
my thai giants are on there 4th leaves now..were having some HOT weather now..and warm
nites..so these babies will really start to put on size..and fast..
3yrs ago..i started with 4"potted thai giants..and by sept..i had plants with leaves over
60inches long.. yea..thats fast !!!!
they were quite the attention grabber..:)
i'll start taking pics..and post.. hope u all will too.. hint..hint..:)
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 9, 2014
7:36 PM

Post #9889885

Oh yes please post pics I would love that!

I will check into the fertilizer and get to feeding.
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

July 9, 2014
8:15 PM

Post #9889923

tropicalnut, I also fertilize the EE's with Miracle Grow too, along with the urea. Not the same day, maybe a couple of days in between.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

July 10, 2014
4:25 PM

Post #9890484

You all make me feel like a neglectful parent. I rarely, if ever, fertilise mine.
Anna_Z
Monroe, WI
(Zone 4b)

July 10, 2014
5:03 PM

Post #9890505

They would crowd you out of your bedroom if you fertilized and gave them urea. LOL
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 10, 2014
6:09 PM

Post #9890572

i dont see u as any kind of neglectful pop tropic..:) lol
hows your winter going there..?? any rain??

microb

microb
Mountain View, HI

July 11, 2014
7:01 PM

Post #9891297

I'm thinking about getting Thai Giant. Its difficult getting plants into Hawaii. How successful and long do they take to grow from seed
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

July 12, 2014
5:03 PM

Post #9892001

Anna, they're growing about 60 to 70 metres from my house. If they crowd me out of my bedroom from there I'm really in trouble, LOL.

Dave, my largest now has a trunk nearly a metre long, but it's laying along the ground. I was hoping it'd grow upright. I think the plant is too heavy and the soil too soft. I'm hoping we've come through the worst of the winter/dry season now. This mornings minimum temp was 19.1C. Last week it was around 14 to 15C. Fortunately our days are always over 30C so plants can get over the cold part of the day. Still no rain, and none likely until possibly September, but definitely some during October. Even the titanums are taking it in their stride. One of the smaller ones opened out in the coldest weather still "smiling". The other small one isn't showing signs of dormancy so I think it might be moving into its annual cycle. And the leaf cutting is still growing its tuber despite the cold. All happy little aroids.

Microb, you'll find Thai Giants are already in Hawaii. There's a Colocasia called Thai Giant, and also a Xanthosoma. You'll find both if you look. They'll even show up under other names, you need to know what to look out for. Hawaii is trying to "close the gate" on exotic invasive plants but they left their run far too late.

microb

microb
Mountain View, HI

July 12, 2014
7:09 PM

Post #9892084

Thanks, I will start my search.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 12, 2014
7:18 PM

Post #9892097

Well mine are potted up but I haven't fed them except what is in the potting soil. I better get with it.

My konjac fell over in the wind. I thought it was really protected but we got strong winds out of the NORTH! This is summer not suppose to get strong winds from the north. Anyway I propped it back up and so far everything looks ok.

We are going to be down in the 50's at night next week. We are having odd weather. Don't think the tomatoes, cantalopes, and tropicals are gonna like that.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 12, 2014
9:31 PM

Post #9892175

i was reading on wunderground weather blog..about the artic vortex thats gonna
chill the mid part of the country early this week..no frosts..but chilly for july..:(
happygarden..we had a microburst last summer..late july..my 2 largest titanums..weighing in
over 200# with potting mix and all..were blown over..no damage to the corm or plant but..
wow!!!
i was also gonna suggest checking with foster botanical garden in honolulu..for thai giants..
last i was there they were very helpful..
i hope to have a couple days off ..sunday/monday..if so..i'll try to get some pics on my plants...
and post..
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 13, 2014
6:47 AM

Post #9892355

Have to admit I will enjoy the artic vortex, actually we have only had 2 days that hit 90 this year.

Glad to hear my plant will be ok after falling over. I have never had one fall over before.

Oh yeah I would love to see some pics. Mine are so small that there isn't much to take a pic of right now.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 13, 2014
8:38 AM

Post #9892451

enjoy the heat reprieve joyce!!! :)
u get a cooling..here in west..next week..preliminary forcast is early part of week over 100F
sigh..gotta get my 2 can hat out and wear when im mowing the lawn..hehehehe..LOL

microb

microb
Mountain View, HI

July 13, 2014
9:28 AM

Post #9892491

I'm on the Big Island so Foster Botanical Gardens remains a dream to visit. We've got a few good garden shops and nurseries here so I hope I will get lucky.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 13, 2014
10:53 AM

Post #9892547

microb they won't ship between islands? I have been fortunate enough in years past to visit maui several times. It was my favorite place I have ever been. But I have been told it is way over built now. Probably been 10 years since my last visit.

Well right now it is about 95percent humidity and sunshine, you can barely take a breath! ugg..
I was just repoting some plants and sweating like I was running a 500 mile race! Yeap the arctic cold front will feel good for me.

Well back out to repot a couple of different black ee's. Will post some pics later.

microb

microb
Mountain View, HI

July 13, 2014
2:12 PM

Post #9892667

Probably would ship from Oahu to Big Island. Problem now is invasive species. We have colonies of fire ants, cocqui frogs and giant black palm beetles making the news so moving plants between islands has become really sensitive. Fire ants started on Big Island and are now spreading on Oahu. Cocqui frogs are pretty much limited to Big Island and so far the palm beetles are limited to Oahu.
Never a dull moment for plant lovers.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 13, 2014
2:19 PM

Post #9892674

Doesnt sound like you would want any of those things. I had fire ants in Texas, none in Missouri yet. No fun.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 13, 2014
3:40 PM

Post #9892744

i hear ya joyce..i mowed my lawn and neighbours this afternoon.. its 97F out there..
?? whats the saying,, only mad dogs and englishmen go out in midday sun..LOL
not sure which one i am..:) LOL
neighbour actually brought over some ice water..i have wonderful neighbours!! :)
ya.i moved all of my potted (small and medium sized pots) amorphophallus to back today..
whew..its hot!!! you will enjoy that cool down when it shows..
ive been mulching all my vegy plants now..i use neighbours grass clippings,straw,leaves..
i gotta get out tomorrow morning and take some pics..
everyone stay 'cool" in this heat...
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2014
8:37 AM

Post #9893308

finally got out early and took some pics..
bananas,canna musafolia,thai giants,various alocasias..2 r lari ann's
robodoro hybrid..:)

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happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2014
11:01 AM

Post #9893430

I love the giant ee. Are they in pots or are you digging? I have a couple of banana trees but everything I have is in pots so I can move them 'easily' roflmao. Least I don't have to dig.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2014
2:53 PM

Post #9893677

everything except my amorphophallus are in the ground..
yea..in oct..i have alot of digging to do ..for overwintering..:)
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2014
3:28 PM

Post #9893704

Finally stopped raining and the sun came out, took pics of all the ee's, bananas, and tropicals but you can not see them...rofl, sun is too bright...LOL Have to try in the morning.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2014
5:07 PM

Post #9893787

send some of that rain our way joyce...
its clouding up..but forcast says..nadda.. sigh.. :(
ya..i find best pics taking mid morning..or late afternoon.. otherwise
sun here is way to bright..and i get pics with alot of glare..
anxious to see your pics..
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2014
11:32 PM

Post #9893975

I am concerned the ee I bought is not a giant. I will really be miffed if it isn't. I had a gift certificate for Logee's and that is what I ordered.

We were in such droughts the last couple years that the rain is really needed. I see you all are really burning up out there.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 15, 2014
7:01 PM

Post #9894686

joyce..hope u did get plant/s you actually ordered..
ive never ordered from logee's..i am a HUGE fan of brians botanicals..and
a wonderful gal down in mississippi..
makes me wonder this year.. my good gal down in ms.. with the wet winter they had..she
didnt have any plants for sale this yr.. :( sigh..and she was growing out some nice
big alocasias..i wanted my hands on.. sigh..
hers are field grown..i think thats why they are tougher than greenhouse plants..they
"hardening off" of her plants is almost nothing for me..
on ebay..ive seen no jacks giants.. few big alocasias up for bid/sale..
many had thai giants..so guess a good yr for them..???
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 15, 2014
10:30 PM

Post #9894805

The first pic is suppose to be the Thai giant, what do you think?
Here are some of my other plants.

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tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 16, 2014
4:32 PM

Post #9895434

joyce.. great looking plants!!!! i think the "thai giant " you have looks like a young
thai giant.. my experience with them is with each progressive "larger" leaf they get more
wide..and BIGGER!!! :) heeeheh
?? is that your field of corn in the back of pic 3?? thats alot of corn..:)
your other plants..nanners,etc.. look great..
you seem to be doing a super job!!!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

July 16, 2014
10:11 PM

Post #9895678

That first one does look more like an Alocasia than either Colocasia or Xanthosoma.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

July 17, 2014
3:47 AM

Post #9895722

Wish it was my corn...lol Would be a nice payday come this fall... ;) Guess I will find out as the ee grows. I got a gift certificate from a friend. I have never bought from them before this.

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