This is my three month old splash orp,this morning when I went out he was puffed up with his head under his wing,it was cold here this morning so I put him in a cage under a heat lamp,I also put electrolites in his water and tried to feed him bread with yougut on it and he would not eat it so I tried just the bread as he loves that and he would not eat that either.He was fine yesterday and so are the other 5 thats in with him all the same age.I have checked him over and can find nothing wrong to my eye.He is my favorite and have waiting so long for a splash.Have you any idea`s what could be wrong or anything else I could try?
force electrolyte water in him with a dropper or syringe for sure to make sure he is getting enough fluids and it probably wouldn't hurt to give antibiotics just in case he is coming down with a cold. I would use a more broad spectrum one to cover all the bases. Also you could get some GroGel Plus. I would not give bread as it is a useless nutrient. Make a mash with his feed and put s dot of yogurt on top to try to attract him to eat or the grogel on top after it sets into the jello stage.
Any improvements during the day??
I did the yogurt mix and he ate all that.Someone on another fourm sugested giving him corid in case its cocci,there is no blood in his poop and he does seem better tonight,I will keep him by himself tonigh.
Started him and his 5 litter mates on sulmet,He is doing great I put him back outside with the others and he is chasing bug taking dirt bath and eating,so maybe it was not that but I think I will do the full 6 days.
I noticed the last few days he is having a hard time to balance himself on the roosts,He stays on but teeters a little untill he sits down.Also when he sits down on the floor his feet and legs are out in front of him and he tilts back.He is eating and drinking and looks fine other than that,any ideas?Of coarse he is my favorite and want to use him next spring for breeding.
Well it has been going on too long for Mareks disease or any other serious infection, I would think. The balance problems sound like an inner ear or neurological issue (?) In other words I have no clue. The fact that he still eats well and does normal chicken things seems like a good sign, however. I hope someone else has better ideas.
he may have hurt his hip or something. His left leg does look larger in the pic above. I honestly don't know either
I`m thinking its a sprain,I put him in a cage and feed him some yogurt with raw garilic and I couldn`t get it in the dish fast enough for him,he gobbled it right down.So I mixed up some electolites in their water and put him back in with the rest,he does not want to walk on it anymore than he has to but is eating and drinking and pooping ok (looks normal)so will just keep an eye on him.
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I think the legs are the same. If you notice, one is turned, giving it a different angle.. if the toe was in line like the "skinny" leg, then I'm thinking it would appear exactly the same.
I always jump to it being Mereck's.. It doesn't seem the first "episode" was Mereck's.. but the symptoms he is showing now are almost classic, other than when he sets, if it was "classic" symptoms, one leg would be forward, and one leg back.. but the "range paralysis" and the fluffed feathers, not eating, etc.. sounds like it to me.
Don't give up too soon. I had a little roo who did the same, and I'm sure it was Marek's. I was just too stubborn not to try, even though I sure didn't need another rooster. I tried a sling to keep him upright, with little luck, he kept spinning. I built a cardboard box with a shelf to support him, two holes for his legs, so they could be in a "normal" position, and sides high enough to keep him upright. He was eating and drinking, so I put food and water in reach of his beak. It looked very strange, but he survived. I don't really know how long he was in that contraption, but it was at least two weeks. He finally started "falling out", and I kept replacing him, thinking maybe he was outgrowing it. Eventually I realized he was flying out and walking a few steps, or hobbling, or something.
He's fine. And some reading now indicates he may be resistant to Marek's, and good for breeding the same into his offspring.
Im here Green, just been catching up! hopefully your splash will recover very soon.
Im going through a bit here too with unknowns. Losing babies right and left. I wont take over your thread with my probs though. Will start another. E.
He ran outside with the others this mornng,but was slow getting off the ramp,itdoes appear to me that one leg is swollen,I idid a lot of reading on Mereks last night and will look at his eyes later as that will give me a clue if that is what it is
If it is Mareks, he is doing unusually well and is likely to recover if he continues to eat and drink.
His eyes look normal,I seen a pic of what they would look like if he had Mareks
If he has range paralysis, he won't have the strain that affects the eyes. If his eyes were cloudy, etc.. he would not get the leg problems.. those are two different strains of the same disease.
Mereck's is not a death sentence in all cases. Their legs usually don't swell.. I even had one that broke a leg, and it didn't swell at all. They don't seem to get infection and inflammation like we do, or like other animals.. Which is great, cause infections are so hard to fight.
No, I wouldn't give up no matter what it is.. I hope he recovers... if it is Mereck's and he recovers, like Catmad says, it's a good thing! One less threat to check of what seems to be an endless list of things that they can get.. It's near impossible to diagnose what happens to our chickens because of the multitudes of things that mock other symptoms..
He went outside more today and he is eating and drinking very well,I have been giving him activia with chopped garlic and a little bread in it and he devours it,I did dust him tonight with poultry dust under his wings and his rear area,it seems to be just the one leg.He is the only one of all the chicks that has given me any trouble,I think its because I like him the best,LOL ZZ if chicks are given the Merecks shot as chicks does that cover range to?Do you give your chicks the mereck shot?I know if I order any from hatchery I will have them given the shot so I don`t have to worry about that
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Oh I've gotta believe that Donna!! Kinda like the best way to find out if it's NOT a weed is to pull it out... sure as shootin, it'll be the only one you want to grow!
They can be vaccinated as newly hatched chicks... Range Paralysis is a symptom of Mereck's. So yes, it would cover that.
I do not vaccinate for Mereck's. They would have to be vaccinated as soon as they hatch, before they go to the brooder and you have to purchase the vaccine in huge doses.. I've only lost a few to Mereck's I think only one Serama... It seems to attack different breeds more than some..
This might be your second "false alarm" with him... or he may have a mild case. My guess is he will be fine. Seems that when they pass from Mereck's, it's rather quick..
I have never seen a chicken grow as fast as him and his sisters,they are huge.He seems a little better each day.
He was born in June,I would think so,there are a lot of feathers in the coop this morning mostly wing feathers.Any thoughts anyone as to why this would be happening?
Mine are molting now as they normally do in the fall which seems like poor timing to me too. I would have thought your Mr Handsome was too young
They go through a juvenile molt.. but it's usually not as drastic as it is later in life.
His sister that is the same color as him is moting to but not the other sister that is black.
Update on handsome,I put him a cage inside the coop so he can see the others,I thought maybe if was not using the foot and leg much he might come out of it.His foot is swollen,I checked for bumble foot and did not see any sign of that.I still think sprain in leg foot or hip.I`ll keep him in there for a week and if I don`t see any improvment then he will go back in the big coop.He eats and drinks great and poop looks normal still.He is still molting a bit but not like he was.
Just a guess here but it may be that he has grown faster than his legs can hold. It happens to the "fryers" they raise in houses and feed growth hormone to. They just get heavy and cannot stand up. You say he is very big and growing. If that is it, his muscles may catch up soon since he is not getting growth hormone. Hope he does well.
You know I did think of that same thing,will just have to wait and see
H e is so friendly,I know he would like to be with the others but he is so good he does not try to escape when I open his door to give him his water and feed and goodies.He is in the same room with them only in his own cage.
try giving him extra protein if he is growing to fast for his muscles. Get some fishing crickets for him and give 3 or 4 a day or get a bag of flock raiser it is 19% protein and all I feed mine
Yes I am doing that,BOSS,and picked up some conditioner feed that has protein in it