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Great harvest HB. I've never gotten cloves that large from my crop. I turned the bed last weekend then ran out of steam. Should get my two beds planted this weekend. Have not checked your link yet, will do later.
1lisac - after I dig mine up around the end of June, beginning of July, I sort and keep the largest for the next season's planting. I don't know how long they are actually viable. Last fall I set a little over 100 cloves, and only one died.
The instructions I've always followed for soaking use the baking soda/seaweed mixture for overnight and then a dip in alcohol for 3-5 minutes right before planting. I've had really good luck with this method, so I"m afraid to NOT try it :)
I'll be planting this weekend. I did the soaking thing last year and all turned out fine. I thought I'd try it without this year and see what happens. I've noticed that some of you say you just plit the mother/heat apart and plant the cloves. Must work just as well?
Thanks for that watering well tip HB, I'll water today and plant tomorrow. I've just turned in a wheelbarrow load of home-made compost into the raised bed (it's my 'mixing bowl'), a few weeks ago I bought 1 yard of compost and a sandy loam mix. All this goes into the raised bed, along with a heavy scoop of crushed seashells and several scoops of that volcanic rock dust someone here mentioned. Mix well, then I distribute to other beds, plant the mixing bowl bed last. It will be beets, carrots, brocc, cauliflower...etc. LOVE this time of year here.
MaryMcP - If I were a vegetable plant I would feel really special having all that great stuff to grow in. ☺
I love this time of year, too. Today I finished a raised bed for broccoli transplants. I added lots of finely mulched leaves, and hauled several buckets of compost. I kept going, and going until I felt dizzy and nauseous. When I got into the house, hubby had to give me a couple of figs to raise my blood sugar. Sometimes I forget I'm a type 2 diabetic!
Tomorrow I'll put in the transplants, and try not to let myself pass out in the process - LOL!
Oh dear - you be careful with your health. It's important!
Just came in a little bit ago to get some food together, turkey rueben sandwiches and oven fries.
Beds are all turned and watered, it's still triple digits here so it's too hot to work outside already (10am here). I'll start on a labor intensive dinner idea later this afternoon. Will plant tomorrow.
The tomatoes already growing in that mix are very happy...if I don't forget to water them. Funny that.
HB - when I make reuben (with corned beef, swiss, sauerkraut, rye or pumpernickel) - I use thousand island dressing on them and then grill/toast them. The cheapest one is usually Kraft. Hmm. Now I'm hungry. Be safe!
I can finally get my garlic planted - I got the last three varieties I was waiting for today. I'm trying to switch to creoles, since that's the type that seems to be though best adapted to this area. Of the creoles, I managed to snag small quantities of Aglio Rosso, Ajo Rojo, Native Creole, and Spanish Benitee. I'm hoping to add some more creoles to the list next season.
I'm also planting Chinese Pink, Corsican Red, Early Red Italian, Inchelium Red, Italian Late, Lorz Italian, Siciliano, Viola Francese, and Shantung Purple, all reportedly softnecks.
There's only 4-8 oz of each variety, but that should be plenty for my trial garden. I'll probably plant the largest cloves and try cooking with the smaller ones to sample the differences in flavor.
I planted my garlic a couple of days ago, and I hope that it was not too soon, as the weather has warmed up again. I suppose I should have waited for November, but last year I got caught and then planted everything too late, as there were many rain and snow storms. The first snow was November 20th. There is just no predicting thr weather.
I've been waiting too, we are still in triple digit temps [low 100's but still 100° days]...the summer that never ends. I expect when it does cool down, the temps will plummet! There is just no predicting the weather - that's for sure.
An odd observation here... it doesn't seem to matter regarding temps. My notes indicate that my garlic sprouts at the same time of year here regardless of temperature. I noticed yesterday that the perennial garlic bed is sprouting, as are the garlic chives and some of my ornamental alliums.
And yes,the summer that never seems to end will be coming to a screeching halt here by Wed night in the high 30s! What a switch from the one hundred degree temps. Not quite ready for that drastic a change.
I purchased just two bulbs of California White from gurney's and plan to plant most of them in the holes of a concrete block raised bed I have. The rest I'm planting throughout the garden to see where it grows best. I realize it's not a lot of garlic I've purchased, but since this is my first year, thought I'd go small. I was actually going to purchase the Corsican Red, but that extra $3/bulb had to go to gas, LOL!
Thanks from me too! I was aware of all the others you posted, rjogden, but not The Garlic Store. All the rest are great! I'll have to save The Garlic Store link for next year. I just went shopping at the Legg Creek Farm website to replace some of my fruit trees that got fried this summer.
I have another question regarding garlic - I want to plant in the little holes of the concrete raised bed I have, but a worker at the nursery said that I need to be concerned with lime wash from the concrete, that it'd leach into the soil from the concrete.
I'm not sure that's a problem, some plants like lime. Lavendar is one. I took an idea from DG'er JoParrott and bordered one of my beds with cinder blocks. I painted them first with white roofing insulation stuff...it's kind of rubbery...but you don't really have to. Last year I grew broccoli, carrots and garlic in them. This year I'll do the same and also some radish.
I can't find the pictures with the veggies actually growing in the cinder blocks, but this gives you an idea of what's happening.
SoFlaCommercial wrote:I have another question regarding garlic - I want to plant in the little holes of the concrete raised bed I have, but a worker at the nursery said that I need to be concerned with lime wash from the concrete, that it'd leach into the soil from the concrete.
how to i combat this?
The cement in the concrete reacts with dissolved carbon dioxide in water and other organic acids created by living plant roots and the breakdown of organic material in the media. It's simple soil chemistry.
I don't know of any way to prevent leaching from concrete short of using a sealer, and that may cause other problems because they're intended to be used on floors and pads, not planters.
I planted commercial grocery store garlic (from China) about 2-3 weeks ago and is has sprouted. I was planning to use garlic bought at the farmers market, thus locally grown, but DS ate it...
I read that my area should plant a Rocambole type.
I just planted what I had when I had time to do it...
Years ago on the east end of LI, Zone 7, I planted garlic from the grocery store some time in October. I didn't pre-soak or do anything special. I also didn't pay attention to the weather, just broke up the heads and put them in whenever I had time and always had good results. I'm about to do the same thing today in Zone 5b, except that I added some dehydrated manure to my raised bed first. Wish me luck!
HoneyBee, I know that feeling-the stealing and the peeling. LOL Its kind of hard to put the nicest looking cloves in the dirt instead of your food.
Pam, I'll wish YOU luck as that might help me too ? tee hee!
OK, first round of potato onion (multipliers) and garlic went in Sunday. I forgot to check the calendar for the moon phase, but that is when I had time to plant. Did not soak this year, just planted in a good bed. I have more garlic to plant and it is supposed to rain (knock wood) tomorrow. Maybe. So if I have any light left tonight after supper, the rest of the garlic is going in. At the rate things are going, the moon should probably call me in the morning to see what phase I have time for LOL!
My problem is the weather - we haven't had our first frost yet, and the forcast is for it to get into the upper 70's this week. The sweet pepper plants are loaded, so I don't want to pull them while they are still producing fruit - BUT - I need the space to plant garlic!
We don't rake-up the leaves from our own trees, rather we leave them to replenish the earth. We do gather leaves from around the neighborhood and add them to the garden. The earthworms change them into usable soil.
okay, so FINALLY got my cinder block raised bed completed. going to soak tonight.
from what i've read on some of these sites that you all were so nice to leave the links for, i take a gallon of water, mix it with heaping tablespoon of baking soda and 1 tablespoon of seaweed, soak the cloves in there NOT peeled, then plant flat side down/pointed end up two inches below the top of the soil, cap it with copious amounts of mulch (i'm using natural cypress mulch), keep watered, but for the most part leave alone.
is that all correct?
u think i could soak my bulls blood seeds in that solution as well? or should I just put those in the jiffy pots to start out? hate to waste all that water on such a small amount of garlic...
Thanks for boiling it down, SFla. If mine don't come up I'll do that next time. Always nice to know what to do if the simple thing doesn't work... and who ever knows when the luck is about to run out and you suddenly realize that you have to do more than the little you've been getting away with?!
well, i didn't peel anything. in fact, I plopped them in solution as entire bulbs, with the covering keeping everything connected. I do believe that the covering has to come off before I plant though, right?
"I do believe that the covering has to come off before I plant though, right?"
Not necessarily, SFC. I've planted garlic for more years than I care to admit, setting out cloves of peeled vs unpeeled and never noticed a difference in the two. I'm also among the ranks of those who've never soaked/pre-soaked and have had bumper crops of garlic. I'm of the mind that often times, especially since the Internet, we often get swayed into thinking we must do this, do that, buy all the latest gadgets and try all the "newest" ways (which often-times are just "recycled" and not necessarily new). It seems common to invest more money and time than is really needed to grow a garden, be it food or flowers.
I planted some garlic saved from what I grew last year and it sprouted in less than a week! The white bunching onions are also very quick to sprout. I separated the tiny Egyptian onion bulbils that I had and those have sprouted as well - looks like a very good year for onions and garlic! Hope to get my purchased garlic planted in about 10 days - still have to finish taking out the tomatoes from that bed.
When I saw this thread on planting garlic, I had to read it because I love garlic and like to hear what varieties other people like and grow. I had just one variety for 10 years that I got from a friend who had purchased it at the local co-op store, so I don't know what it is specifically except that it is a softneck. Then I discovered there were lots more kinds and I went kind of crazy planting more than 12 different varieties, both hardneck and softneck, about 800 plants in a year and selling at the farmer's market. After 5 years living and breathing garlic all year long, my field got hit with a garlic fungus so I scaled way back and don't sell any, only grow for my family.
I had never soaked my garlic cloves prior to planting and all my plants sprouted and grew just fine. However, because of the fungus, I looked into ways of ameliorating the problem. One thing I found was that soaking the garlic in baking soda water allows you to remove the outer coating of a clove easily and you can then see if there are any visible spores on the individual clove. Now I do this before planting my garlic, just to make sure I'm not planting any infected stock.
Good info, thanks for posting that. Quite often what we *think* is the reason for doing something is completely off-base. The old story about the grandaughter that always cut the roast because mom and gram did it that way. Gram didn't have a pan big enough!!!
I always thought soaking first had to do with germination. Thanks for another angle and it makes perfect sense!
My garlic and onions are coming up as we speak. We had a cold snap, then rain, and now a warm snap! Bizzare, but I think the garlic likes the weather?!? Oh well, just happy to see something growing after the drought. Even my pasture is green now.
Okay, I planted mine November 9th. I was told they're a long season crop (takes a long time to get ripe?), but here it is 9 days later, and 3 of the 17 cloves I put out are already sprouting...what do I do? Do I cover them with mulch now, or what? How long before it's ripe?
SoFla ~ don't worry. Let them grow and don't mulch or cover. They will be fine as an overwinter crop. Even hard freezes will not harm them. In the spring or early summer, when the tops fold over, you can harvest the bulbs. In this area, mine are ready to harvest in May or June.
Quoting:Weather or different starters do you think?
I've been saving my own garlic cloves for five seasons now, so I think it must be the weather. It has been quite mild these past couple of months. If I remember correctly, it was really cold this time last year.
Looking back, I planted mine early October and the tops all fell a few weeks ago- I guess that adds up to the same growing time. I pulled mine then. I'll def plant garlic again this fall! The empty garlic patch was the right timing for some beans.
Stephanie - I've always kept my garlic whole until I use it. Do the cloves keep well once they have been pulled apart?
Mary - the larger the clove planted, the larger the resulting bulb will be. I save fifty of the very largest bulbs each year, then break off the largest cloves from those bulbs and plant them. I set the cloves about six inches apart.