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ginger749

November 28, 2011
8:36 PM

Post #8909794

I have had this Palm growing in this spot for about 6 years.
I have never really thought about it much.
IT was bought on impulse to fill a spot.
Well ! I would now like to know what it really is.
Does any one know what it might be ?

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

November 29, 2011
3:31 AM

Post #8909982

Looks a bit like a Hyophorbe, maybe a hybrid.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2011
7:24 AM

Post #8910175

bottle palm, Hyophorbe lagenicaulis
ginger749

November 29, 2011
2:41 PM

Post #8910549

Thanks Bob.

I thought I could remember there being something "RED" in the name.
Is this possible ?

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2011
3:26 PM

Post #8910598

Maybe the Red Bucket Palm? Just a thought as yours comes with a red bucket...
ginger749

November 29, 2011
3:44 PM

Post #8910618

The Red bucket was in there just as a size comparison.
Only thing I coulf find besides my lens cap. ;~)

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2011
5:01 PM

Post #8910690

In the US we tend to use a tennis shoe to show size... whatever works!
ginger749

November 29, 2011
5:25 PM

Post #8910708

Sorry Bob,

I don't play Tennis.
Can I use any other kind of Shoe ?

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2011
5:25 PM

Post #8910709

I suppose... bright colors are best
ginger749

November 29, 2011
5:29 PM

Post #8910715

I have been on DG for 6 yeares now.
And I have never seen any tennis shoes used ???
Maybe I should pay more attention in future. ^_^

Seriously,
Is there a red bottle palm ?

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2011
5:35 PM

Post #8910727

not that I am aware of. There is a Red Flame thrower Palm (sort of a made up name, though), a Red Lemur Palm (one of the best looking palms in the world), Red Lipstick Palm, Red-back or Red-neck Palm (another sort of made up name)... those are all the red palms I can think of right now, though would not be surprised if there are more... I really am not that versed on common names for palms.

I just read that Hyophorbe indica can sometimes be referred to as the REd Bottle palm... there really is not any red on that palm, and that species of Hyophorbe is the only one I know of that does NOT form a bottle trunk. But maybe that is what you are thinking of.

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ginger749

November 29, 2011
5:44 PM

Post #8910741

You didn't say weather I was to wear the Tennis shoe or not.

So here is my attempt at following instructions.

kell.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2011
8:22 PM

Post #8910936

wow ... that is a big palm. Shoes are great... just need to know the size to really judge.. 10s?
ginger749

November 29, 2011
8:47 PM

Post #8910979

8 ½ actually.

This is my other “RED PALM”.
Matches my handbag in my profile picture. ;~)

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


November 29, 2011
9:08 PM

Post #8911013

Nice... you obviously live in a more palm friendly climate than I do.
ginger749

November 29, 2011
9:20 PM

Post #8911024

Another Picture same Palm. (red neck I think)

The Lipstick Palm is Red all the way up the trunk ?

I have a Picture I took in Bali.
I'll look for it.

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ginger749

November 29, 2011
9:46 PM

Post #8911048

Close Up of my size 8 ½ Tennis Shoes.

So the Palm can't be all that BIG really ?

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ginger749

December 1, 2011
5:32 PM

Post #8913055

This Palm is at the other end of the Bottle Palm hedge.
It is not much bigger than a 5ft fence post.
And yet is producing in excess of 300 seeds per seed pod.
Anyone recognise this Palm ?

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 1, 2011
7:48 PM

Post #8913235

Wodyetia bifurcata (Foxtail palm)
ginger749

December 1, 2011
8:51 PM

Post #8913290

Anyone want some seed ?
I can only give them to people in Australia. (and not WA ?)
I have 5 Palms in pots I planted this time last year.

I will take Pictures as soon as I pull weeds out of Pots.

I wonder If I will ever be able to STUMP you Bob ???

I have three others I have never shown on DG. ^_^
ginger749

December 1, 2011
9:44 PM

Post #8913329

Here are my Pictures of the 12 month old Fox Tail Palms.

I pulled all the weeds and gave it a quick drink of H2O.

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ginger749

December 1, 2011
9:47 PM

Post #8913331

This next Picture shows the very large seed still attached.

I think that is mealybug (white) under leaves I just removed.

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ginger749

December 1, 2011
9:50 PM

Post #8913332

Oh Dear!
Nearly forgot the mandatory 'Tennis Shoe'. ^_^
It will soon become automatic for Moi.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 2, 2011
9:17 AM

Post #8913677

pretty stylish shoe.
ginger749

December 2, 2011
7:25 PM

Post #8914370

I'm hoping this will try out your skills Bob.
It has a great history here in Ozz.
Can't give you any more clues than that yet.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 2, 2011
9:17 PM

Post #8914455

Linospadix monostachya? (Walking Stick Palm)
ginger749

December 2, 2011
9:36 PM

Post #8914463

As Homer Simson would say:
D'OH D'OH D'OH D'OH D'OH D'OH D'OH D'OH...
I had at least 4 more Pictures to give you clues.

Sooo! here is my next one.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 3, 2011
12:02 AM

Post #8914517

that doesn't look like the same palm. Is that an immature Livistona?
ginger749

December 3, 2011
1:01 AM

Post #8914521

[quote="palmbob"]that doesn't look like the same palm.[/quote]

It IS a completely new Palm.
I have never shown it before because I have no idea what it is.
I have walked past it for over 6 years and it never gets any bigger.
I first saw it on 'South Ridge' Mt Barney National Park.

I didn't take a Picture of this Palm this year.
I have 'kneemonia'. (a bloody sore knee)
Can't walk for more than one hour.
The South Ridge Walk to East Peak takes about 9 hours.

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ginger749

December 3, 2011
1:16 AM

Post #8914522

It takes about one hour to get from the car park to here.
Then an 8 hours return to the Summit from here.
That's if you don't get lost.
One of Queenslands most underated Climbs.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 3, 2011
7:10 AM

Post #8914707

If it's been that size for many years, perhaps it is some Licuala sp., but I do not recall if there are Licualas native to Australia. Otherwise, do not know what that is.
ginger749

December 4, 2011
11:12 AM

Post #8916008

How do I remove Pictures ?

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December 13, 2011
11:01 PM

Post #8928846

I would have liked to remove my last Picture.
Then I would put my new Picture which includes a Tennis shoe in its place.

Melody told me :
[quote="Melody"]if they are in the forums, I can't remove an image without deleting the whole post...they're hardwired together.[/quote]
So I have decided to leave My Picture where/as it is. (without the tennis shoe)

I did have another 4 Palms I would like to get an ID on.
But it appears Bob is already on Holidays .
So I will wait till he comes back.

Cheers and Merry Xmas to every one on this Palm Forum.

kell.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 14, 2011
7:27 AM

Post #8929109

Wish I were on holidays... I work all the holidays.. I am looking forward to when I can retire (now, projected retiring age is 122... not sure I'm gonna make it that far...)
ginger749

December 17, 2011
7:13 AM

Post #8932945

I took this Picture yesterday afternoon.
There are 9 different Palms in the Picture.
The Poinciana is always in full bloom at this time of the year.
Looks like the Fan Palm needs trimming again.
I don't like the old fronds hanging down like a skirt.
I feel it creates too big a fire hazard.

Young Thugs have been known to simply put a match to the skirt and bolt.
And the Palm will simply die from heat stress.

One Fan Palm in a Neighbours place is 60 years old.
Looks cool but I still don't like the skirt.
I will take a Picture of it tomorrow.

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ginger749

December 17, 2011
2:32 PM

Post #8933381

This is the Red Lipstic Palm I believe ?
They look a lot like the Golden Cane Palm.



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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 19, 2011
7:33 AM

Post #8935369

those are Cyrtostachys rendas (Lipstick Palm I think might be one of several common names)
ginger749

December 19, 2011
9:14 AM

Post #8935499

Thanks Bob.

I knew you would know exactly what they were.

If you are working all the way through Xmas ?
Are you a Fire Fighter or what ?

kell.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 19, 2011
5:16 PM

Post #8936148

veterinarian.. and yes
ginger749

December 19, 2011
5:52 PM

Post #8936201

This is a very exciting Summer for me. (Dec-2011)
This is the first time this Palm has thrown a seed stem.
I have about 15 of this type of Palm.
12 are Green and 3 are Red.

Do you recognise it Bob ?

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 19, 2011
7:31 PM

Post #8936320

I need a bit more palm
ginger749

December 19, 2011
7:48 PM

Post #8936359

[quote="palmbob"]I need a bit more palm[/quote]

What's your postal address ?

Oh! I get it, More Pictures. ;o)
Is this enough ?

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ginger749

December 22, 2011
10:10 PM

Post #8940118

Hi Bob,

Just wondering if you know what type of Tree this is.
And please don't say a Christmas Tree.

It was a real Headache to create it. ^_^

Merry Xmas to you and all the other people on this Forum.

Cheers kell.


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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 23, 2011
9:26 AM

Post #8940496

never seen one in person but I have heard of this species, and some related ones.. Brachychiton austroethanolia (can't see close enough to make out the supspecies), or as it's sometimes called by the natives, Booze-Bottle Tree. These are really hard to grow for most growers in my area as most cut these trees down prematurely and drink the contents so rarely does one manage to get one to that height. I guess it's a lot easier to grow native stuff than the imported species? Most here just end up having hollow trunks (sometimes called kegs) that don't look all that great (to me) and lose most of their ornamental value in that form.
ginger749

December 23, 2011
10:46 AM

Post #8940587

So could it be related to the first tree in this thread ?

The keg tree sounds familiar.
Saw one at my Sons 21st.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 23, 2011
10:41 PM

Post #8941195

Don't confuse bottle trees with bottle palms... bottle palms generally have only one bottle (unless you have a two fisted drinker)
ginger749

December 25, 2011
3:41 PM

Post #8942538

[quote="ginger749"]

Oh! I get it, More Pictures. ;o)
Is this enough ?

[/quote]

Do you need more Palm ?
Or have I STUMPED you ?

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 25, 2011
6:53 PM

Post #8942652

More please
ginger749

December 25, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8942693

OK then.

This is another Palm of the same kind.
This one is not seeding yet.
But it is doing some Vertical Dancing with my Poinciana Tree.
It seems to be keeping its distance by some 6” from the Poinciana.
Have you ever seen this carryon ?


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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 25, 2011
9:49 PM

Post #8942847

yes. Spindle palm (Hyophorbe verschaffeltii).
ginger749

December 26, 2011
8:50 AM

Post #8943150

Thanks Bob.

Have you ever heard of the two different Colours ?
In my case it is green and red.
I can include Pictures of the red if required.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 26, 2011
9:39 AM

Post #8943200

I have not... perhaps that is because I can't grow this palm (too cold sensitive in my area)
ginger749

December 26, 2011
10:13 AM

Post #8943228

With Global Warming ???
Perhaps you may be able to grow it in the near future ?
I personally am not too sure about this phenomenon.
We are having the coldest December in living memory.

Average day time temp is/was 27 deg C. ^_^
Even my bottle/Xmas tree needs topping up.
ginger749

December 26, 2011
10:23 PM

Post #8943828

I was going outside to take some Pictures of the Red Spindle Palm and it began to rain.
There was a little hail as well.

Does any one else get 75 Millimeters of rain in 35 minutes ?
I guess that's the beauty of the Tropics.

This Picture was taken out of My Studio Window.

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ginger749

December 27, 2011
7:43 PM

Post #8944963

Hi Bob.

Would you happen to know what this Plant/Palm is ?
The Plant that these jolly little Guys and Gal's are munching on.
I would like to buy a dozen to grow here at home.
I wonder if I could eat it in My Salad ?


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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 27, 2011
8:53 PM

Post #8945021

that's funny... those bugs don't look like they're doing a whole lot of munching right now
ginger749

December 28, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8945959

Maybe they are off their Lunch Break ?

ginger749

December 28, 2011
8:08 PM

Post #8946068

OK Bob,
I don't seem to be able to stump you on any of My Palms.
So I will try another tact.

What is the Girls name above the 'red spot' in this Picture ?




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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 28, 2011
9:03 PM

Post #8946157

Phan?
ginger749

December 28, 2011
9:32 PM

Post #8946185

Phan Thị Kim Phúc
That was the name of the naked girl running down the road in South Vietnam 1972.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/TrangBang.jpg/250px-TrangBang.jpg

To be absolutely honest.
I never did stop to ask her what her name was.
But you are probably right again. ^_^
ginger749

December 28, 2011
10:35 PM

Post #8946212

The Fronds of this Palm rub on my Studio roof all the time and gives me the creeps.
When one is totally engrossed in a Painting it sound like some one is walking on the Roof.

I suppose you know what Palm it is ?


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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 29, 2011
7:30 AM

Post #8946420

your dog looks like its laughing. That is a Phoenix liliensis (close relative of Phoenix canariensis, but with lilies growing around its base)
ginger749

December 29, 2011
10:19 AM

Post #8946596

I think Dog reads my Emails.
She knows what ROFL means.
And she is just showing me so.

I give away over 4,000 seeds a year to a Nursery that grow the seed on.
In return, I get a couple of advanced Palms whenever I want.


ginger749

December 29, 2011
5:38 PM

Post #8947030

Seeds ready for harvesting now.

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December 29, 2011
5:44 PM

Post #8947032

Another Palm with My Studio in the Background.

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December 29, 2011
5:51 PM

Post #8947036

As a rule I only put up my own Palms for ID.
But I took this in the middle of Orchid Av. Surfers.

Are these Palms Canaries or Phoenix liliensis ?

In 10 years of looking at them, I have never seen any of then seed ?
Could it be because of the Xmas lights around them ?


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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 30, 2011
2:03 AM

Post #8947284

Those are Phoenix ferniensis (looks like Boston Ferns around their crowns)
ginger749

December 30, 2011
11:30 PM

Post #8948541

Hi Bob,

I took this Picture from a Cherry Picker of the Crown of this Mystery Palm.

Do you happen to know which Palm it is ?

By the way HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and everyone else on this FORUM.

kell.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 31, 2011
7:55 AM

Post #8948758

I hate that that species (Pachypodium geayi) is called a palm, but whatever. Nice shot. Happy New Year... is it already next year there?
ginger749

December 31, 2011
9:18 AM

Post #8948875

Yes Bob it is 2012 already.
It's 10 past 3 am already.
Just woke up myself.
Slept through the whole Fireworks. ^_^


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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 31, 2011
4:01 PM

Post #8949290

oops, now it looks more like P lamerei... nice plant
ginger749

December 31, 2011
4:29 PM

Post #8949314

You are spot on again.
By the way, I was not trying to trick you.

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January 1, 2012
12:01 PM

Post #8950163

What causes a Cycad to all of a sudden produce new leaves twice as big as last years leaves ?
For the last 3 years they only increased in length by 4 to 8 %.

Last year we did get all that rain. (most rain in 100 years)

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 1, 2012
3:27 PM

Post #8950390

less sunlight.. or getting older
ginger749

January 1, 2012
3:48 PM

Post #8950416

Thanks Bob,
Probably the shade thing.

I don't remember where this picture was taken.
Might have had two too many that day.
Are you able to ID it for me ?
It appears to be a deciduous cone-bearing tree. (a connifer ?)

kell.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 1, 2012
3:52 PM

Post #8950418

Must be an Australian native... never seen one like that anywhere.
ginger749

January 1, 2012
3:54 PM

Post #8950420

I Googled it and found this.

Cupressaceae lavatree
ginger749

January 1, 2012
5:24 PM

Post #8950527

I got a Dmail from 'someone' saying it's a pretty crappy picture.
Maybe so, but I didn't take it so there.

I have a small Palm hiding in a Rainforest area just meters from My Studio Door.
I can't take a Picture today because it is buried in undergrowth.
I will need to clear a small track to get to it.
As soon as I can take a decent Picture I will add it here. ^_^

ginger749

January 2, 2012
12:16 PM

Post #8951567

Cleared ½ a track.
Just enough so I could take a Picture through the jungle.

Is it clear enough for you to ID this Palm ?

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 3, 2012
7:25 AM

Post #8952602

Ravenea rivularis of course
ginger749

January 3, 2012
9:45 AM

Post #8952778

Thanks Bob.
I just find it amazing how easy it is for you to recognise all these Palms.

This Palm is around 5 years old.
I have a few others that are 6 years old but three times as tall ?

Funny thing with these Palms is if I tap them with my bare knuckles.
They sound just like the tapping of watermelons.

ginger749

January 3, 2012
10:07 AM

Post #8952817

Same Palm as in the last Picture.
Picture was taken from 180 deg in the opposite direction.

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January 12, 2012
10:32 PM

Post #8965630

For anyone here on Palms Unlimited who have not yet heard.
Palmbob is selling up and moving on from his present home.
I did offer for him to come here and re-establish. (in Queensland)
But his OH don't like snakes. (and I have lots of them residing here)

Here is a link to his decision to move: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=8962649

With all this in mind, I would like to know how I am going to take these 8 Palms with ME.
I am also moving on in 6 months time after Building and living here for 32 years.
My intention is to downsize unlike Bob who wants to upsize.

A sincere Good Luck with your move Bob.

kell.

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January 14, 2012
6:06 PM

Post #8967945

Took this Picture yesterday at my Dads House.

I have many more close up Pictures but I am guessing you won't need them Bob ?

kell.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 15, 2012
12:27 PM

Post #8968707

Phoenix dactylifera
ginger749

January 15, 2012
12:44 PM

Post #8968736

I Yahooed that Bob,
And you appear to be spot on.

I will still post a few more Pictures so anyone interested can see some of the fearures.

Thanks, kell.

Picture # 2.
The Trunk at the base.

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January 15, 2012
12:46 PM

Post #8968737

Picture # 3.
Showing Fruit/seed.

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ginger749

January 16, 2012
9:49 PM

Post #8970752

Picture # 4 showing seed/fruit munched on by Bats.

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ginger749

January 16, 2012
9:51 PM

Post #8970755

Picture # 5.

The Crown.

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January 19, 2012
1:38 PM

Post #8974502

This is the Palm Tree I mentioned earlier having a 'Skirt'.
In my opinion it is a total fire hazard.
If the skirt was set on fire the subsequent fire would definitely kill the Palm.
To me it is pure laziness on the part of the owners.
Who don't want to climb the Palm and trim the fronds.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 19, 2012
2:34 PM

Post #8974588

that is a Washingtonia robusta... they are indeed fire hazzards, but not really that much more than most trees
ginger749

January 19, 2012
3:01 PM

Post #8974633

Thanks Bob,

There are two other Palms in this Picture.
Is it possible to ID them from this distance.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 19, 2012
8:32 PM

Post #8974972

I think they are Phoenix, possibly sylvestris... or canariensis hybrids.
ginger749

January 19, 2012
9:06 PM

Post #8974997

Unfortunately I am not on talking terms with the owners.
And if I was to take more Pictures with my telephoto lens I might be accused of stalking. ^_^

ginger749

January 22, 2012
8:09 PM

Post #8978370

Hi Bob,

Do you know what this Cycad is called ? (no not Fred)

It had a cute little white velvet cone in the middle.
Smooth as a babys you know what.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 23, 2012
8:40 AM

Post #8978906

Dioon spinulosum I think... but could be meijae, too... got any close ups of the leaves?
ginger749

January 23, 2012
1:05 PM

Post #8979343

Here is a closer Picture of the Cycad.

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ginger749

January 23, 2012
1:06 PM

Post #8979347

And another.

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ginger749

January 23, 2012
1:07 PM

Post #8979350

Close-up of cone.

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ginger749

January 23, 2012
1:08 PM

Post #8979352

Top of cone.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 23, 2012
1:51 PM

Post #8979418

Looks like an early male cone of Dioon spinulosum... these get incredibly bad smelling soon...
ginger749

January 23, 2012
2:10 PM

Post #8979460

I think I have found you a permanent possition if you do decide to come to Queensland.
You don't even need a Steam Drivers licence.
This is just a dressed up Ride-on Mower but Kids just love it.

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ginger749

January 23, 2012
2:12 PM

Post #8979464

Infact it looks like you already got the job ?

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ginger749

January 24, 2012
3:56 PM

Post #8980985

Another Cycad.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 24, 2012
6:39 PM

Post #8981239

this Encephalartos species is a tad more generic.. .could be E altensteinii, or about a half dozen other possibilities.
ginger749

January 24, 2012
6:45 PM

Post #8981247

Oh dear,

Looks like I might have opened a Can of Cycads then ?

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January 24, 2012
6:47 PM

Post #8981250


Is there any special Pictures I can take to Positivly ID it then ?

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ginger749

January 24, 2012
6:49 PM

Post #8981254

The base is many, many times thicker than all the others in this group.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 24, 2012
8:45 PM

Post #8981361

Large size just points to older age... but I think it is probably E altensteinii or natalensis... - most common Encephalartos that look like that.
ginger749

January 24, 2012
9:20 PM

Post #8981375

OK, thanks Bob.

This next one is very tall and not thick at all ? (more like a Palm trunk)

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 25, 2012
8:37 AM

Post #8981721

male Lepidozamia peroffskiana (one of the taller species of cycad)
ginger749

January 25, 2012
10:21 AM

Post #8981844

OK Bob,
I Yahooed that and it matches perfectly.
Why does the male flower go limp at this stage ?
Is it a strategy to give Ants better access ?

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ginger749

January 25, 2012
10:22 AM

Post #8981845

Close up of spent Flower cone.

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ginger749

January 25, 2012
10:23 AM

Post #8981846

Another close-up.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 25, 2012
2:14 PM

Post #8982101

it is not a flower, but a cone (like a pine cone, only this is a cycad cone). It opens up to allow access for pollinators to reach its pollen, with the 'hopes' they will then spread this pollen onto an accepting female cone.
ginger749

January 25, 2012
2:22 PM

Post #8982109

Thanks once again Bob,

Which Palm does this seed stem belong to ?

In this Public Garden there is a Tree-Top walk from where I took these Pictures 4 days ago.


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January 27, 2012
10:25 PM

Post #8984980

Another Picture.

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ginger749

January 27, 2012
10:29 PM

Post #8984986

.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 28, 2012
5:25 PM

Post #8985947

Hmmm... look a bit like Lytocaryum flowers, only Lytocaryums have smaller petioles than that... Howea belmoreana? Or Lacospadix?
ginger749

January 28, 2012
5:32 PM

Post #8985959

Hi Bob,

Looks very much like a Howea belmoreana. (kentia palm)

This is one of the Pictures I took from the Tree Top Walk.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 28, 2012
5:41 PM

Post #8985967

yup, that's it
ginger749

January 28, 2012
5:45 PM

Post #8985974

This was another Picture from the TTW.

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ginger749

January 28, 2012
8:49 PM

Post #8986159

I just found this Picture I took on my way home on the Tree Top Walk.

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ginger749

January 28, 2012
10:07 PM

Post #8986180

My next mystery Palm looks to me like what we call a Parlour Palm.
But this one has many Canes a lot like bamboo.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 28, 2012
10:31 PM

Post #8986187

It's a Chamaedorea, but not sure what species.. .any shots farther away?
ginger749

January 29, 2012
7:13 AM

Post #8986410

I only took 5 Pictures in total.
So I will post them all up if that helps.

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January 29, 2012
7:14 AM

Post #8986411

Picture # 2.

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ginger749

January 29, 2012
7:15 AM

Post #8986412

Picture # 3.


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ginger749

January 29, 2012
7:16 AM

Post #8986414

Picture # 4.


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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 30, 2012
8:29 AM

Post #8987930

looks like Chamaedorea costaricana, or a really large colony of C seifrizii... but more likely the former.
ginger749

January 30, 2012
9:28 AM

Post #8988038

This Picture was taken at the same Gardens but in a different spot.
Total hight was 2'6".


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January 30, 2012
9:46 AM

Post #8988066

[quote="palmbob"]looks like Chamaedorea costaricana, or a really large colony of C seifrizii... but more likely the former.[/quote]

I yahood the first name and found this picture of yours.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/108056/
In my opinion the seeds look completely different.
Yours hang down on long stems.
Mine are short and upright. (stems are also bright red)
I'll now check out the second option.




ginger749

January 30, 2012
9:56 AM

Post #8988078

Once again I feel the seed spikes are far too long on this picture. (and they hang down)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Chamaedorea_costaricana.jpg

But, they are bright red.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 30, 2012
10:06 AM

Post #8988097

that looks like a Chamaedorea elegans. Not sure you have a suckering Chamaedorea after all, but a bunch of separately planted individuals.
ginger749

January 30, 2012
11:29 AM

Post #8988208

Perhaps Chamaedorea hooperiana infructescence ?

I will be going back there in a weeks time.
Hopefully I will see one of the Gardeners and ask them.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 30, 2012
2:47 PM

Post #8988443

take a picture of where the culms come out of the ground, to see how close together they are, and what shape the make when coming out... that is one way I tell many of these Chamaedorea apart.
ginger749

January 30, 2012
4:12 PM

Post #8988534

I was going to ask YOU how I could make it easier for you to ID.
And you read my mind.
Thanks again for all your help on this Forum.

Till I can get back there and get those Pictures.
Here is another one I woulds like to know better.

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ginger749

January 30, 2012
4:13 PM

Post #8988537

This is the same Cycad but with my Gas Gas parked next to it for size comparison.

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ginger749

January 30, 2012
4:30 PM

Post #8988550

Another Cycad but same kind I guess.

I was told this one is 700 years old ?
Is that possible ?

Looks like it was in a big fire before it seeded.
The kooni grass is usually 5 ft tall till the Natives burn it off.
They do that so they can trap Maganies for their meals. (sikau bilong antap)
And that's when we start exploring.


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January 30, 2012
9:13 PM

Post #8988915

Another Picture of the same Cycad.
All alone.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 30, 2012
9:20 PM

Post #8988921

Cycas species... they look a lot alike to me. Bikes look fun... but I can't see where the seat is
ginger749

January 30, 2012
9:30 PM

Post #8988927

SEATS ? What are they ?
Gas Gas is a Trials Bike.
We spend the whole day standing up on the foot pegs.

There are 5 people in our group.
We love it.

Take a look at the stare I'm getting from the Albino Local on the left of Picture.

Make that Right of Picture. ^_^



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January 31, 2012
12:44 PM

Post #8989614

Within one hour of leaving the waters edge. (the ocean)
We were more than 1500 meters above sea level.
I took as many Pictures as I could, considering.
I thought the Cycads were so cool.


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January 31, 2012
12:47 PM

Post #8989616

Close up of Cycad seeds.
I notice they are two toned.
A bit like when dipping Strawberries in Chocolate Fondue.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 31, 2012
3:19 PM

Post #8989750

good chance that is a native species and that those are fertile seed
ginger749

January 31, 2012
4:00 PM

Post #8989826

Thanks for your comment/observation Bob.

This next Palm should be really easy for you to ID.
I am showing the whole Palm first.
I had no way of getting up into the crown.



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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


January 31, 2012
8:34 PM

Post #8990231

actually at a bit of a loss, unless it's some skinny-trunked oil palm.
ginger749

January 31, 2012
9:05 PM

Post #8990266

I really don't know how you do it Bob.
This Palm is more than 143 years old.

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January 31, 2012
9:08 PM

Post #8990269

I found this old tag attached to the aging trunk.
It proves you are spot on Bob.

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February 1, 2012
4:47 PM

Post #8991217

Today it was the Barbers turn to take to my Phoenix ferniensis.
There is a 2"long catterpillar that lives on the fronds.
If they brush against your skin it kills.

The barbes on the fronds are pretty painfull if they get you as well.


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February 1, 2012
4:50 PM

Post #8991220

The barbes usually break off inside your shin.
And it is impossible to remove them.
They fester up and pop out after a few weeks.
But hurt like hell for the whole two weeks.

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February 1, 2012
4:54 PM

Post #8991227

Some of these Seed branches will now fall off.
They have been relying on the fronds for support.

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February 1, 2012
4:58 PM

Post #8991237

This Phoenix ferniensis has the Boston Ferns around their base.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


February 1, 2012
7:48 PM

Post #8991473

I think that one might be a Phoenix subferniensis
ginger749

February 1, 2012
7:55 PM

Post #8991500

Thanks Bob,

This is the Catterpillar that eats the Fronds.

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ginger749

February 1, 2012
7:57 PM

Post #8991502

Picture # 3.

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February 1, 2012
7:59 PM

Post #8991505

Picture # 2 was there but disappeared.

Picture # 2.

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


February 1, 2012
8:15 PM

Post #8991519

what a great looking caterpillar... but dont' want any in my area!
ginger749

February 1, 2012
8:59 PM

Post #8991563

Just loaded all the Fronds into my Ute r us.
I just found 7 big ones.
Or should I say they found me. (ouch)

I'm going to raise them in an empty Fish Tank and feed them like Silk Worms.
I have never raised one to A Butterfly Stage.
It is quite rare to have them eating Palm Fronds.

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February 2, 2012
7:14 AM

Post #8991895

Here is a question for Bob wearing his other Cap. (the Vet)

What type of K8½ is this ?
And what is her problem ?

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


February 2, 2012
7:20 AM

Post #8991902

wow.. is that part dingo? Not seen that breed around here. She looks underweight, unspayed, probably unvaccinated and has a terrible dermatitis (could be mites or fleas or both). Give that poor thing a meal!
ginger749

February 2, 2012
7:30 AM

Post #8991924

This is typical of Papua New Guinea Pets.
The locals up there are flat out finding enough food too feed themselves.
So their Dogs get next to nothing to eat.

There are no Dingos in PNG, Port Moresby.
And NO, that's not me dressed up either.

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February 2, 2012
7:33 AM

Post #8991931

Do you know why his teeth are so red ?

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


February 2, 2012
8:51 AM

Post #8992051

my guess is he's been a chewin' on a tad too many Areca catechu fruits (aka Betel Nut)
ginger749

February 2, 2012
11:10 AM

Post #8992177

Right again Bob.

Betel Nuts are sold by street vendors on every street corner through out PNG.

ps: Just heard a Ferry with more than 300 passengers has sunk in Northern PNG.

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February 2, 2012
11:33 AM

Post #8992222

Here you can see this Beautiful Lady selling the 3 ingredients to a good chew on a Betel Nut.
The buai it self, green and orange ones.
Then the Mustard sticks and the lime powder in the white bottle.

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ginger749

February 2, 2012
11:42 AM

Post #8992228

These three Ladies have formed a Co Op.
Business must be good for them.
They can afford a roof over their Shop.

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ginger749

February 2, 2012
11:50 AM

Post #8992237

There is no Garbage collection in Port Moresby.
So all their rubbish is simply dumped in big piles in the streets.
People will spit all their betel nut juice all over the pile as well.
Now and again someone will put a match to the pile.

Guess it saves on Land Fills,Trucks and fuel.

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February 2, 2012
4:32 PM

Post #8992550

All the Coconuts these two ladies have husked are sending up Growing Spikes.
The Betel Nut Sellers behind these 2 Ladies have a small sign saying 20. (that's toya/toea)
That's how expensive the Buai are in PNG.
I never saw one single Areca catechu Palm in the POM metropolitan area.
They grow way out in the Villages where the Chiefs can control them.

Did you notice all the locals are wearing thongs ?
Even the School Girls are wearing them.
Would not happen here in Brisvegas.

This Thread appears to have run its race. ^_^
You have done well Palmbob, only 2 unsolved.
So I will now declare it as SOLVED & CLOSED.





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