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Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

November 30, 2011
7:50 AM

Post #8911302

Thanks to some great DG friends I have started getting into Gesneriads. My first AV to bloom is the one pictured .. It was a NOID but after looking at pictures I'm thinking it might be Epsom Magic. Please correct me if I'm wrong .. I passed my personal test which was to keep my new plants alive and thriving for more than 6 months so I'm ready to jump in with both feet! I even weathered a fungus gnat infestation with no problems .. turned out to be that awful Miracle Grow AV soil. I ended up removing all the MG soil and replacing it with a mixture of ProMix - BX and vermiculite and perlite. I have them in a south facing window behind some white mini blinds and they are doing awesome!!! They seem to love the really bright but indirect/filtered light. I've also successfully started a new plant from a leaf! So proud of myself!

I have a lot to learn though and eventually want to get into the Sinningia's. I've been reading all the threads paying particular attention to the ones about problems and really am loving the pictures of all the different cultivars! I had no idea!

Xeramtheum

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Vadis
Alum Bridge, WV

November 30, 2011
8:38 PM

Post #8912091

Welcome aboard. A word of caution, however. If you are the collector type, AVs can become an obsessiion or worse. I've met growers who have literally hundreds of AVs and desperately seek out those that have escaped their collection.

My advice, restraint and diversity. Your idea of Sinningias is a good one. You might also try Streps and perhaps Episcias.

I congratulate you on your working out of the potting soil problem, and you analysis of light conditions. You are on your way to being a grower!
aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

December 1, 2011
6:07 AM

Post #8912312

I am so very proud of you, Anne!!! Your plant looks so happy and it's great to see you posting over here :))))

Connie
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 1, 2011
6:13 AM

Post #8912319

Thanks for the welcome! I can certainly understand how Gesneriads can become an addiction! I already have a bunch of those - they are in the greenhouse at the moment .. I wanted to have something with blooms that would carry me through the winter in the house and Gesneriads seemed to be the perfect solution .. the more I started looking into the Gesneriad Family the more intrigued I became and discovered my Alsobia was in the Gesneriad Family! I read bunches of books from the library about AV's and they all seemed to say the brightest indirect light was the best so rather put them my new babies in a North facing window I decided to try the South facing with the blinds on it and wasn't disappointed with the results!

I'll wait a few months before I start trading for more or trying new genus's.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 1, 2011
6:15 AM

Post #8912322

Thanks Connie and thanks ever so much for giving me such a great start!!
aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

December 1, 2011
7:48 AM

Post #8912403

Awe (blushing)...you just made my day. You are so welcome :)

There are lots of unique plants in the family. I would love to see a RR on here this spring.

Connie
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2011
8:49 AM

Post #8912463

Welcome to the world of Gesneriads!

Some Violets and a Kohleria cutting was how I got started a few years back.

The family of Gesneriaceae is very diverse. From tiny, tuberous herbs like Sinningia pusilla to small trees like Negria rhabdothamnoides.

There's a plethora of species, cultivars and hybrids to choose from, particularly in the genera Saintpaulia, Streptocarpus, Sinningia, Kohleria, Achimenes and Primulina (formerly known as Chirita).

Sinningias are probably the easiest of them all and come in a sheer endless variety of shapes, colors and sizes. They are generally easy to grow and bloom, are tolerant of neglect, are easy to propagate by means of cuttings, leaves and seeds.

If you ever want to try growing a Gesneriad from seed, try a mini Sinningia and you will most likely not be disappointed.

Kohlerias and Achimenes can be a bit trickier but are also generally easy. Like most other rhizomatous Gesneriads, they hate drying out when they're in active growth.

It's very easy to get carried away once you got the bug, so be a little careful. I speak from own experience - from about a dozen to over two hundred different Gessies in only a few months... LOL

What I would highly recommend to you is to look at the Gesneriad Society website for the next AV/Gesneriad club near you. Also, a Gesneriad Society membership is something to think about. It's 25 bucks a year and you get access to their seed fund, which is very cool!

http://www.gesneriadsociety.org/chapters/chapters.htm

Most importantly: Have fun and good growing! :)

Olaf

P.S.: Connie, I think that a Spring RR is an excellent idea!
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 1, 2011
8:56 AM

Post #8912468

Thanks for the info and link! My biggest problem right now is when to water .. at the moment I'm going by how light the pot they are in - I don't really see any over signs that they need watering like other plants but I'm getting the hang of it I think.

I'm wondering if the toothpick in the soil trick would work with AV's .. as I understand it, you just stick a wooden toothpick in the soil next to the roots and you can lift it out .. if it's totally dry, water. Do you think that would be a good indicator?
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2011
9:08 AM

Post #8912480

It's always a good idea to picture a plant in its natural habitat to figure out a watering regimen.

Violets, for example, grow on steep, almost vertical cliff faces in cracks and crevices with a little bit of accumulates soil.

What this means is that they won't get all that much water and the roots won't stay wet for very long.

How this translates into a watering regimen is this: You should allow the mix to dry out a little between every watering. The larger the pot, the longer it will take the mix to dry.

This also explains why Violets are usually grown in small pots compared to the size of the plant.

Violets, like many other plants, can take a little bit of a dry spell much better than sitting in cold, soggy mix for a prolonged period of time.
Seaecho
Phelan, CA
(Zone 8b)

December 2, 2011
9:33 PM

Post #8914462

I put my finger in the soil up to the first knuckle. If its dry there, I water. Also, after some practice, you can tell just by the weight of the pot when you lift it.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 3, 2011
5:57 AM

Post #8914647

Thanks for the watering tips. I've tried sticking my finger in the soil mix but I'm kind of worried about disturbing roots since the majority are in those small white plastic cups.
meag848
Kittrell, NC
(Zone 7b)

December 3, 2011
7:54 AM

Post #8914766

Miss "X"!!! It's so good to see you again!! It seems to me like I tried to give you some av's several years ago when we traded datura seeds. My but doesn't time fly!!
Melanie
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

December 3, 2011
11:35 AM

Post #8914929

Welcome Anne! Sorry I'm late.Not too much computer time right now.

Lynn ^_^
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

December 3, 2011
12:17 PM

Post #8914954

Welcome! A Spring Round Robin would be just the thing. Time to root some cuttings!
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

December 3, 2011
2:00 PM

Post #8915116

Me too.First I need to transplant everything I have started already LOL.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 3, 2011
7:10 PM

Post #8915450

Thanks for all the warm welcomes! I'm really lovin looking at all the gorgeous pictures! I'm hoping some of ya'll will be willing to trade some AVs for other plants since I'm so new to this family.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2011
8:51 AM

Post #8915888

Not a problem. I can set you up with some Sinningias and Kohlerias if you like. I also grow some Begonias and Hoyas.

Since I'm in Chicago, this all will have to wait until Spring unfortunately...

The only thing I can ship right now are seeds. So, if you like to try Gessies from seed, just let me know and I can send you some. :)

Olaf
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 4, 2011
9:27 AM

Post #8915923

Thanks Olaf! I can't take on anymore plants or seeds at the moment but in a month or so will be ready. Do AV seeds breed true to the parent?

If you are into morning glory, I have a bus load of rare, hard to find and unusual ones .. I also do a lot of crossing with them so I'm sure I'll get into that with the AV's down the road.

Here is a link to my seed trade list - I just updated it.

http://www.xeramtheum.com/X_Seed_Cat_2011.html

And here is a link to "The Best of 2011" - it will give you an idea of what I have available for trading.

http://www.xeramtheum.com/
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2011
9:48 AM

Post #8915940

Your seed list is, well, comprehensive! Wow!

As much as I love Morning Glorys, where I live right now, there's not enough sun for them. They are a common weed around here (I. purpurea) but there are NONE where I live. Go figure... LOL

I always have too many Gessie seeds in the fridge from my own plants (Mostly Sinningias but there is the occasional Streptocarpus seed pod...)

I don't know about Violets from seed but I would suspect that most of the hybrids won't come true - just like it is the case with most other plants. However, being such highly variable plants, there's a chance that you wind up with some real nice ones if you have the patience. Violet seed pods take several months to mature and growing out the seedlings takes another year or so to first bloom. Then you want to start selecting the promising ones and keep growing them through several cycles of bloom to make sure that the blooms are stable.

Sinningias are a bit quicker in that regard. Particularly Sinningia speciosa, micros and minis grow from seed to first bloom in only a few months and they can have several growth cycles (2-3) per year without ever going completely dormant.

Kohlerias grow from seed to first bloom in about 4-6 months. Most never go fully dormant for me and keep putting out new growth pretty much all year round.

In general, Gesneriads are not more difficult to grow from seed than any other plant. The one thing that can take some getting used to is the diminutive size of the seeds and seedlings. The seedlings might be tiny but they are also surprisingly tough!

Olaf
GREENSIDEUP
Big Flats, NY
(Zone 5b)

December 4, 2011
4:06 PM

Post #8916296

Hi X, welcome to you! A tip on sowing the exceedingly fine seed Break each lot of seed you sow into quarters on separate little creased papers. Sow the contents of fist quarter evenly as you can in one direction. Rotate the container and sow the second quarter again as evenly as possible. I have done this hundreds and hundreds of times and know this really is helpful with truly tiny seed and fern spore. I have grown seed for decades to supplement my income. another great help id the realization that you probably do not have time or recourse to raise thousand and thousands of seedlings to a salable or growing on size. I do believe you will enjoy the hobby and have MUCH more happiness if you sow about a quarter of a pod or packet,perhaps keep another quarter in storage. and let the other half fall were they may! Lots and lots of joy to you! Did you ask if seeds come true? yes if there is nothing else in bloom closely related in flower! My friend, You are gonna have a ball! Lee Sherwood McDonald
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 4, 2011
7:25 PM

Post #8916595

Thanks for the info Lee. I usually start my first wave of seeds for the new growing season starting in the last week of January .. I start them on heating pads and move them out to the greenhouse after weaning the seedlings off the heat. One thing I've always done is keep detailed records about what I germinate and cross as well as photographs. I've had a lot of experience with crossing and back crossing morning glory for desired traits. It will be interesting to see what variations occur with cotyledons and sepals with the difference species.

I'll be going through my catalog for the next few weeks deciding what I want to grow this year .. I also always grow out my oldest seeds every year for fresh. Growing Gesneriads from seed will have to wait until I get toward the ends of my germination waves.

Anne

GREENSIDEUP
Big Flats, NY
(Zone 5b)

December 8, 2011
1:24 PM

Post #8921702

Anne, Pay no attention to me, You are an experienced soul!! I can't imagine why I thought you needed advice? I believe it had mostly to do with the number of gardeners who are flabbergasted by the size of seed for many Gesneriads?? If you have a moment I would love your opinion on good early blooming M.G.'s They tend to be very late bloomers for me up here in Siberia, N.Y. ! Lee Sherwood McDonald
Sallysblooms
South, TX

December 8, 2011
1:41 PM

Post #8921740

Welcome! I grow all of my Violets in semi hydro medium and it is working so well. I am tired of the "soil" and repotting.

I am so glad you are here! Your plant is so pretty. Continued good luck...Good growing!
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 8, 2011
1:58 PM

Post #8921766

Pay no attention? Phooey! This lil old lady is venturing into uncharted territory and is delighted to have the great people on this forum as my compass!

Thanks Sally .. haven't gotten to the semi-hydro medium part .. sounds intriguing!

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 9, 2011
5:28 AM

Post #8922374

I'm a tricolor variegated/episcia/strep person, less of the AV's. Developing a sinningia habit as well! Gesneriads are sooooo addictive! They're mostly small, so you can always squeeze one more in, right??
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 9, 2011
5:56 AM

Post #8922395

Yeah .. that's what I said about my tropical hibiscus .. my greenhouse is so stuffed with tropical and extra tropical plants at the moment I can hardly move in there!

My biggest space problem is plant munching kitties, God bless em, so I have somewhat of a limited space .. once I get the hang of it, I'll probably just concentrate on Sinningias and true doubled AV .. I'm a sucker for doubled flowers.

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aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2011
6:52 AM

Post #8922454

AWE...PRECIOUS babies :)

You need to throw in a few Episcia plants on that list. You can grow them in a hanging basket if need be for extra room. There are a couple more members over here that love tropicals like I do and are trying to build up on those so you are a perfect match over here :::)))))))))

Connie

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 9, 2011
12:30 PM

Post #8922880

You can also use episcia to carpet the pots of large tropicals :)
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

December 9, 2011
12:36 PM

Post #8922887

Sounds beautiful!
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
12:36 PM

Post #8922889

A few Sinningia pusilla tubers or seeds planted in the pot of a moisture loving tropical will turn into a little colony in no time if left alone... :)
zozzl
Orlando, FL

December 9, 2011
2:05 PM

Post #8922988

I just joined the GHA, Gesneriad Hybridizers Association, $8 per year. They sent out an email publication 3 times a year and their list of seeds is free to members! You can join through the GSA.

A round robin in the spring sounds like such a good idea:). I have started so many seedlings and cuttings so I will be throwing my hands up right about that and wanting to get rid of plants!

PatM.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
2:08 PM

Post #8922996

Concerning a Round Robin: Would anyone object if I threw in some Begonia and Hoya cuttings in case I should run out of Gessie cuttings?

Olaf
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

December 9, 2011
2:26 PM

Post #8923029

I know a lot of people here grow both.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
2:31 PM

Post #8923041

And I have a few cool species like B. aridicaulis or B. burkillii that require a terrarium but are otherwise very easy. Also B. soli-mutata and U002, 'Dewdrop', 'Eagleshamm', sizemoreae and a ton more...

Good to know. I gotta put down some leaves anyway.
meag848
Kittrell, NC
(Zone 7b)

December 9, 2011
2:48 PM

Post #8923061

Do you all know just how terrible you are? LOL!! I just can't stand another addition, but it looks like it's just a tad too late for me. I went and bit the dust and ordered some sinningia seeds. So maybe by the spring I'll have something other than av's to go in the round robin.

Melanie

Oh and by the way...I got another shelf today. lol!!
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
3:00 PM

Post #8923075

You want some more Sinningia seeds, Melanie? How about some micro minis? LOL

I'm still waiting for three more of those darn pods to mature and then it's cleaning, packaging up and shipping. Any day now...

Olaf

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 9, 2011
3:07 PM

Post #8923079

Olaf, it's too cold here (at least I think) to trade begonias or hoyas, but I'd certainly be open to it. And I'm always up for trading seeds or plants for soap/candles/etc.
aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2011
3:11 PM

Post #8923084

I had brought up the idea of a spring RR on another thread and I think Olaf is referring to that. I am becoming addicted to Hoyas now and have started collecting a few of those. Most members here like other plants besides gessies.

Connie
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
3:12 PM

Post #8923085

Oh, that sounds great! Wouldn't that make the Round Robin much more exciting?

There is no way that I will be able to trade anything before April. We just had the first hard frost and a little bit of snow here in Chicago...
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
3:12 PM

Post #8923086

Why not make that a thread of its own?
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

December 9, 2011
3:21 PM

Post #8923093

Melanie,
LOL...Believe me we know how terrible we are ^_^.We love to draw others into our sticky web!

Lynn
aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2011
3:23 PM

Post #8923097

I will when it comes closer to spring. I will be too cold also. It probably needs to be posted in April and started in May...or something on that order. Some might get too busy and you never know what may come up if it is posted too soon. Example: I had a short notice to leave the state to help my daughter after her surgery. Ya never know what might come up between now and spring.

Connie

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 9, 2011
5:35 PM

Post #8923228

If we're doing it in the spring, I'll put down some leaves. I have some cool streps, like Geronimo and Nightmare that are already sprouting leaves. AV Laser Celebration blooms practically nonstop for me, I'll start that as well. I also have some of the variegated Buckeye AV's, I'll throw those leaves in some perlite as well. I have begonias as well, if anyone wants me to start those.
aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2011
5:39 PM

Post #8923231

Sounds great, Celene!!!

Connie
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
5:41 PM

Post #8923233

Let's all get propagating then! :)

I'll have some micro mini, mini and regular size Sinningias, Kohlerias, Begonias, Hoyas, Silver Squill (Ledebouria socialis), Cissus quadrangularis, Sansevieria trifasciata 'Black Gold', Aloe aristata, Haworthia coarctata, Ceropegia woodii, C. woodii "Green" and C. linealis and whatever else I can find...

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 9, 2011
5:42 PM

Post #8923235

I'll def have some Sinningia tubiflora unless something happens to the "mother" plant. I may have strep and episcia seedlings as well.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
5:49 PM

Post #8923238

I should have a ton of blooming size micro mini Sinningias by then. Particularly pusilla, muscicola and 'Mighty Mouse' propagate like bunnies... LOL
carpathiangirl
Akron, OH
(Zone 5a)

December 9, 2011
6:18 PM

Post #8923260

I did have a feeling I had to start some cuttings but only now I realized why lol. You guys are super terrible, I'm drooling already! Love the idea about hoyas, begonias, maybe some succulents and even supplies and crafts would be nice too. Definitely something fun to work on all winter long.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 9, 2011
7:14 PM

Post #8923329

You guys are ramping up my acquisition virus! Are there any Gesneriads that will tolerate blazing hot sun and a lot of water? I have a Giant Tai EE, Colocasia gigantea that's in a large pot and wants a ground cover. It's still a baby though.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
7:22 PM

Post #8923333

In my growing area the temperatures go up into the triple digits for several weeks a year and drop into the nineties during the night.

Sinningias and Kohlerias do best for me. Achimenes are worth giving a try. You should keep them out of direct midday sun or they will scorch up in no time. They can take a bit of direct morning or afternoon sun but you need to test each one for sun tolerance and you also need to slowly get them used to the sun when you move them outdoors.

Kohlerias and Achimenes can probably take the most water but I seriously doubt that they can tolerate the almost bog conditions that Colocasias like...

However, you can use the EE-leaves as a natural shade cloth and grow all kinds of Gesneriads in pots under their protective canopy. :)

Olaf

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 9, 2011
7:35 PM

Post #8923346

For the swampy tropicals, I use Viola banksii, gotu kola, pennyroyal, or water celery. I have a lot of shady kinda plants, so the episcias do well as carpeting plants. I use tropical sedums for the sun-lovers.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
9:18 PM

Post #8923439

Other good ones for shady conditions are waffle plants (Hemigraphis) or Pellionia (or whatever their current name may be..., aka. "Water Melon Begonia"). Both make nice ground covers. Tradescantias can work but you will have to have a weed whacker at hand at all times because they can get a tad invasive. Also, they are classified as noxious weeds in some areas...

All kinds of Begonias work for shady areas and with larger growing rhizomatous
ones like 'Red Fred' or 'Lotusland', you can make quite a statement!

Vigorous, fast growers like B. soli-mutata or U002 are also very cool. B. soli-mutata turns brown in the sun and green in the shade...

Then you have terrestrial Orchids like Spathiglottis which should be pretty much trouble free.

Enough O/T... LOL Back to Gesneriads: The tougher Sinningias like S. tubiflora and S. macrostachya should work even in a relatively sunny spot. The close Sinningia relatives Paliavana and Vanhouttea could work and so could the intergeneric xSinvana.

Primulina tabacum could work in a cool, shady spot and so could some of the former Chirita.

If you can get your hands on one, you could try Conandron ramondioides.

Some of the vigorous, larger Nautilocalyx like N. melittifolius are worth a try as well. Basically all the close Episcia relatives have something worth giving a shot: Alsobia, Nautilocalyx, Alloplectus, etc.

Maybe a Gesneria like G. cuneifolia but they might just be a little too tender...

Columnea, Aeschynanthus, Codonanthe, Nematanthus, xCodonatanthus - The epiphytic genera have quite a few VERY tough ones to offer as well.

That's everything I can think of right now... LOL

Olaf
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 10, 2011
6:16 AM

Post #8923656

My head is spinning right now. Whew!

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 10, 2011
6:26 AM

Post #8923683

Hey...I like the weedy spiderworty kinda plants. And I use them for pot cover, too :) And in bouquets.

Alsobias are fantastic, they cascade prettily over the edge of the pot, and they're good for carpeting terrariums, too. I have a Nautilocalyx adenosiphon that is growing nicely, I may take some cuttings and see how it does in the soil of a ginger. I just started some Episcia "My Precious" accidental cuttings (cat did some unapproved pruning) and I'm trying them as soil cover for a Ctenanthe lubbersiana. I am not sure how a trailing AV would work for that, most of the ones I've tried seem a little fussy for the rough and tumble lifestyle of a soil cover plant.

Am I the only person who has an odd aversion to seeing the soil in pots or terrariums? lol I can't decide whether I like the aesthetic, or it's just an excuse for another plant.

bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2011
8:44 AM

Post #8923807

What I love as a pot cover for larger pots is Saxifraga stolonifera ("Strawberry Begonia"). They are tough, trouble free and take all kinds of abuse and are hardy down to Zone 4...

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 10, 2011
12:03 PM

Post #8924048

Those freaking things die the moment I buy them. Always. I gave up. I can get a vanilla orchid to bloom in my kitchen in Columbus, Ohio but those things just immediately croak, no matter what I do.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2011
1:11 PM

Post #8924117

They don't like to be fussed with. Just leave them alone and only water when they droop. The second, you put them on a regular water regimen, they croak. Once established, they are tough as nails but they can take a while to get there.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 10, 2011
4:14 PM

Post #8924302

All this talk of a spring round robin is making me drool. I am game for any type of plants. I'm new to all gessies. I have african violet babies that will be ready, and also have a lot of micro-mini sinningia seeds that have sprouted. I think the name is 'Bright Eyes'. I have to go check the tag. Also by spring I should have lots of epicia to put in box. Maybe also some hoya cuttings. I just started with cane begonia so if they grow good, I'll have cuttings of those also. Hurry spring. I can't wait.
Olaf, you were supossed to send me some sinningia seeds, so when you do, I should have some of those babies as well.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2011
4:35 PM

Post #8924333

Mea culpa, Eileen!

So far, I am still waiting for two more pods to ripen, then it's cleaning, packaging and sending them off. I have a ton of S. muscicola and pusilla seeds.

BTW: Technically, your 'Bright Eyes', which is (pusilla x concinna) x pusilla, was selfed to obtain seeds and hence is 'Bright Eyes' x self or 'Bright Eyes' F2. It's important to make this distinction because your seedlings will likely not be uniform and not come true to 'Bright Eyes'. What is to be expected is that most of the offspring will be more like pusilla than concinna but there is potential room for some significant differences.

I have been very busy lately and working long hours. So, as soon as the pods are ripe and dry and I have some time to clean and bag the seeds, I'll be sending them to you! :)

Olaf
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 10, 2011
5:01 PM

Post #8924350

I just went and checked the name and it's Bright Eyes x self. There are a couple in the container that look like they have a couple of sets of leaves, so tomorrow I'm going to pot a couple up and see how they do. And WOOHOO, Olaf, my sinningia gutata has buds. You were right. You said it would bloom by December. I can't wait. They are tall and almost touch the iights. I may have to take it off the grid and put it on a mat. Otherwise I won't be able to see the flowers. I see a few buds.
Don't stress yourself too much about sending seeds. I don't want to rush you. I appreciate that you are doing this for me. Try not to work so hard. Try to enjoy the holidays. I worked in retail until the store I worked in closed. I have worked every Black Friday, every Saturday and Sunday for years. I never had time to enjoy the Christmas holidays. I am now retired and enjoying doing nothing but playing with my plants.
Xeramtheum
Summerville, SC
(Zone 8a)

December 11, 2011
8:58 AM

Post #8924992

Celene did you say Vanilla Orchid? I have one that's been sitting under my potting bench going on 3 years now .. it's over 6 feet long and mugging everything in site - I'm always having to remove it's little feet that grab onto everything from objects - thankfully it doesn't attach to other plants like the passiflora .. that's a daily job, cutting off tendrils .. could you post a picture of it, the pot you use and what you have it climbing on please?

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 11, 2011
1:59 PM

Post #8925367

Right now it's in a back bedroom, because I moved stuff around to decorate my ghost pepper kitchen "tree". Mine isn't as large as yours from the sound of it, it just wanders around the other pots and a metal stand.
zozzl
Orlando, FL

December 17, 2011
3:55 PM

Post #8933448

I have some chirita nimbus plantlets doing well and probably various rhizomes to send too and well other goodies. I planted some Achimnes Glory so those should be ready to ship unless they are too big.

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