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Central Midwest Gardening: December 2011 - Snow and Christmas!

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2011
4:50 PM

Post #8912995

I got some Wandering Jew (Judio Errante and Zebrina Pendula, they are all the same apparently, it has many names, they are all on the label!) starts to show! These 5 starts started out as cuttings Nov. 8th - http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=8882088 It was funny on these, they never even drooped or wilted before they started growing, they always looked encouraging! They are doing very well it seems. I plan on making a bunch of them. I put one of them in a plastic-lined weaved basket from Savers, it was bought there for 49 cents. I got happ's, anybody else want one? Or I could mail a cutting, I can do a stamp, no problem. They are SO pretty, they make an awesome houseplant, and they are hard to kill. If they're anything like the all purple Wandering Jews that I also have, they are very hardy indeed, and not just cold hardiness. They are very tolerant of neglect. I had to neglect a big pot of Wandering Jew Winter before last because I had nowhere to put it except in an unheated garage with no light, (very little light that peeked thru a window that was sealed off, the WJ leaned towards that little bit of sunlight, and it was enuff). I had to do four houseplants that way that Winter and only one other houseplant made it, a pot of Aloe Vera also. So, in a way this is "Show and Tell". For anybody that might not know what "Show and Tell" is, it was a thing in Grade school here where kids brought stuff from home to show the other kids! I don't know if they did that everywhere. Tell your kids not to take Dad's gun to school!
Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2011
5:28 PM

Post #8913047

My grandma gives us a basket of that every year and we kill it every year. lol

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 2, 2011
12:09 PM

Post #8913822


Will,
"Worth the deliciousness!'' Cracking up!

Smart move with the foil. I think the reflected light also confuses some bugs that like to hide underneath a leaf, because they can't find the dark side.

Happ,
It looks like I wasn't the only one who had to walk away for a while.

Will,
Once you try the sprayer, you will work it just fine. Remember all the things you already do. It shouldn't be bad and the shed will be painted in no time.
The thing to do is get it all put together and then set it aside. Read the instructions and set them aside. In a few days you will get the urge to paint and with a bit of review, off you go :o)

Awesome Great Uncle!!

Pepper,
I started taking Zinc and I think my sinus is much less for it. It's more like a cold.

Will,
I got my flu shot and I honestly felt pumped after. It was a good month ago. Sept. 30th to be exact. I never felt a bit sick. I can tell you I am NOT having H1N1 ever again!!

Birder,
Your 15 people make me nostalgic for the Thanksgivings we used to have. We had the biggest house so everyone came. I have great memories of those days, sigh...
We're doing pork loin for Christmas :o)

Will,
Sounds like shady people checking you out. Awesome on the TV and camera! I doesn't hurt to let people know you're home either. We flip on the outdoor lights at all times, but, we are usually looking to see if the outdoor cats are home, LOL! Being predictable gets you robbed.
Grinning over the intent in Grubworm's eye :o)
It is a cool picture!
Those are vwery nice plants for the money!

Rusty,
I hope you made some profit. Shipping is terrible anyway!

Pepper,
Grandma will be thrilled with her island. Funny how the deals are only for certain things. I wonder if most is discontinued or overstocks?

Will,
It sounds lke one of the flus. I hope you're over it by now. I too hate wasting time being sick!

Rusty,
Before my sinus set in I had one night of sore throat. It's good to know of products that work.

Will,
Smith Brothers or Ludens wild cherry are like candy. Halls icky stuff is a cough drop :o)
Nice car memories and cracking up over the dream!

I don't even want to consider an ice storm! What a mess you cleaned up!

Ouch on the poor arborvitaes!

I had show and tell!

Those are nice starts. I can't have plants with my cats :o(
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 2, 2011
4:44 PM

Post #8914209

Snow taken out of our forcast down here and instead it will be all rain. Darn it!!!!!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 2, 2011
8:15 PM

Post #8914418

I'm gonna make quite a few of those if you wanna try another one, Pepper! Well, billyp, nice to see you again! Thanks billyp, but I think its too cold now to paint outside, so alas, I've procrastinated too long yet again!

You felt pumped after a flu shot billyp!? I want a flu shot there! Yeah, shady people skulk around I'm afraid! I can call the police as well as anybody, but I don't know if The Keystone Cops will be much help!

Grubworm gets very naughty indeed! She has charged Bucky several times and swung at him, but Bucky is twice as big as her. As soon as he swings back, she runs off. We don't encourage them to get in squabbles, one of these times Grubworm will likely get hurt or one of them will get relieved of an eye, Grubworm sneaks up on Bucky! He usually sees her, but she stalks him.

It is cold indeed, I'm kinda glad they took the snow out of the forecast, I think it's 100% chance of rain tomorrow, here is our 7 day forecast. - http://www.nbcactionnews.com/subindex/weather/forecast/7_day_forecast . Rain I can do, I don't have new tires yet!

Thanks Sally, I hope those starts stay nice. There is several cats here, but that doesn't stop me from having houseplants. I know there are quite a few "poisonous to pets houseplants". Grubworm eats on that Wandering Jew regularly, it's probably one of them on the poisonous list, but it doesn't seem to faze her. I hung it from the ceiling but she stretches up there to eat on it. I try to keep the poisonous to pets ones out of their reach, but they always get to them and it never seems to faze them. I'm not trying to kill them or anything, I like the company of cats!

Thanks, I wish I was all the way over it, I feel okay but I still cough quite a bit, that part won't go away so fast! Mucus in my lungs seems to be hanging around too. It may be a week or so from now even before I'm back to the normal routine of robbing liquor stores and holding up banks in my Ronald Reagan mask, just a joke!

I did some raking today but I have a long way to go! I've filled I think 8 leaf sacks so far and I will prolly fill 40 or 50 before I'm done. The leaf stand thing in the photo is a big help. They were proud of that thing at the store, ($24.99) but I had to have it!

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 3, 2011
4:22 AM

Post #8914574

Pepper,
We have to pick the boys up in the rain today. Now, I'm kind of wishing it was snow instead :o)

Will,
Now you know how to break down the painting next year :o)
Cats, you can't ''herd'' them too much.
Mucinex is the one med that actually works on the lungs. I keep it on hand!
I'll bet you get more cash from the liquor store than the bank!
I like your leaf stand. I wonder why you can't leave the leaves on the street side? Especially since they seem to be mulching the shrubs.

We get the boys today so I'll be a bit of a no show again.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 3, 2011
4:55 PM

Post #8915319

Will, you need to find a way to keep those leaves and turn them into compost. Maybe get some pallets, wire them together and store the leaves in there. There is never a thing as too many leaves if you are a true gardener!! lol. You can also run over them with the mower to chop them up then use as mulch.

We may get our snow on Friday. As long as it's Friday and not Saturday when it hits. I have a hockey game on Saturday that I'm going to and really don't want to drive in a snowstorm after dark. That's my only exception to the snow. lol
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 3, 2011
5:38 PM

Post #8915359

Haha! We do got a small herd of cats! Remember that Super Bowl commercial from the past?! In that commercial, budweiser I think, all these housecats are running in a herd like horses! I'd love to keep those leaves but my friend here would be saying, "why are the leaves still here?"! I'd be all for leaving the leaves too, way less work! Haha! More from a liquor store eh?! Probably so, I'll make a fine homeless guy, I don't drink!

How about this mess that the cable installer left for us about a month or so ago? I took a photo of it yesterday. He tried to hide it behind a Dwarf Alberta Spruce bush but we were bound to see it eventually.

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billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 5, 2011
4:49 AM

Post #8916910

I ditto Pepper. Leaves are gold!

Cracking up over your snow exception!!!

Will,
Sheesh, he didn't have a twister tie?

Busy day today. I need to get the rest of Christmas set out inside. I love inside jobs :o)
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 5, 2011
4:14 PM

Post #8917716

Yeah, leaves are gold! I'm gonna have plenty of opportunity to get some because curbside pickup of yard waste ends Thursday and I won't have nearly all of them raked up by then. I'll have probably 30 sacks or more of leaves to keep if I want. I might lobby for one of those leaf-blowers that vacuum and shred leaves into tiny bits, they're only $99 at Home Depot. It would be way to slow to do the whole yard like that but I'm sure it would be okay to do that for a couple sacks of leaves. I'd like to get something like mulched leaves maybe to help insulate some Banana 'Basjoo's from the cold, the leaves would do the job I think.

That cable installer guy was a jackbutt! For examples, he took off the ceiling tiles in the rec. room and just left them off, he missed the appointment for the installation by an hour and a half and of course the mess with the cable in the yard, that he left for us to do something with. My friend here says we should complain some more now with the pic I got 2 days ago. I told a customer service lady back then that I was about to poke him in the eyes like the The 3 Stooges and she gasps and she said she should have him disciplined, "he shouldn't be representing Comcast", she says. Even back then was only about 2 months ago. I hate to get people in trouble like that, but he messes people's houses up. When he had the ladder up against the house, my pretty, variegated, Hosta leaves were poked thru the rungs of his ladder, he had been stepping on the leaves, before I got it!

Oh, he likely had a tie he coulda put on the cable at least, but I guess he'd rather try to hide a loose pile of cable behind a bush.
Boy, I'm glad I put that plastic sheet over the waterpond!



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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 6, 2011
12:09 PM

Post #8918811

I know I mentioned me being homeless up there, but I'm not going to be homeless. Actually, it did come close to it, but my friend here didn't want me to go. I won't air my problems like that anymore, I am sorry.
What it was, is her Sister is now here visiting and her Sister has a big dislike for me. The Sister is in big denial about everything that I do here. I had made arrangements to leave, Sunday afternoon being my departure day. They had a big blowout this morning in my favor. My friend here knows who helps her in a big way and it's not that Sister from Virginia, it's me. I'll be surprised if that Sister doesn't leave early now. I don't plan on exacerbating it or anything, there is a lot of tension now. For ex. of the Sister's atrocities, before that, she was taking my plants out of the window, (depriving them of sun), that burned me up. I told my friend, "can I just ask that you stop giving her clearance to go over all my stuff?" It was my decision to be homeless. I couldn't take it the way my friend was choosing sides with her Sister, (who does absolutely nothing for her). I cover between 3 and 6 hours a day, watching their Mom (when nobody else can be here to do it), not to mention the extreme home improvement and housework I've done and do and running to her Mom's side the hundreds of times that I've done, (at all times of the day and nite). When it came down to me leaving my friend was crying and hugged me and told me she didn't want me to go.
Psychologically, I think the Sister just has regret about not ever helping her little Sister like I have and doesn't want to believe that someone else is doing it, so she is trying to push me out. Blood should be thicker than water, I respect that their Sisters, I haven't rocked the boat at all, I don't think the Sister even knew that I was on the verge of leaving, I never made a big stink to her (or in her presence) about it. Oh, you should've heard the yelling this morning. I have a place in Kansas to go to if I need to, I wouldn't be sleeping on a park bench or anything, (at least not for a while..lol).
I was all ready to head out, I got 4 new tires, a 12 volt heater for my cigarette lighter and a new car battery for my car. Actually, I did think I might have to possibly live in my car until I built a structure on my property in KS.
But, all is well, the Sister just don't speak to me now. I didn't like the facade friendship she was trying to have with me anyway, I knew she didn't like me, now it's out in the open.
But I am sorry, this is not the place for me to air my dirty laundry.

On a somewhat brighter note, we got our first snow of the year. It's only maybe a dusting, but it's something!
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 6, 2011
3:42 PM

Post #8919126

Hi all! Life has been busy--but that's the way I like it. Uh Huh, Uh Huh! Some of you "may" recognize the song. :)!

BP: You are going to have pork loin! How are you going to prepare it? I brined mine, and then smoked it. It was a cold day, so it took a while to get completely cooked. I didn't care for the smoked pork loin too much. So, I am wondering how you are going to prepare yours. I have another pork loin in our freezer, so will be making another one somehow.

Will: Promise yourself you will get a flu shot next year. We get one every year and haven't had the flu since...well, hey, I can't even remember the last time we had the flu. Of course, I know that could certainly change.

We had some snow once this year already. We don't usually get snow until January. It melted as the ground was way too warm. However, we have had lousy weather for about two weeks now: over cast, mist, wind and cold, cold, cold.

I got up in the attack to get the outdoor lights. I put them on our shrubs only to find out the lights would not work. My husb. and I went over each light and replacing burnt out bulbs--still no lights. So, we threw them away. Bah! I bought some more lights, but I am not sure I am going to put them up or may take them back. The lights sure don't seem to last very many years. Humbug! If anyone has any good tips I am listening.

Well, my tree is decorated, wreaths are up/out and decor is on tables etc., and gifts are wrapped and under the tree. My Christmas letter is written, but I need to address the envelopes and write a little note in them. Then, I am done. I don't think I am going to bake a lot of stuff this year. We sure don't need to be eating it. I do have potato water waiting for me to make cinnamon rolls. I will probably do that. I do enjoy making yeast breads, rolls, and sweets. I have always baked different favorite Christmas cookies, but I am not going to do that this year. Bah! We end up going on a diet and then, they don't get eaten. Humbug!

I have a little white flower bulb blooming outside. I could not believe it is blooming. I meant to take a picture of it today, but forgot until it was too late--dark outside. I really don't know what it is. I thought it was Galanthus, but it doesn't bloom this early, and the shape it not quite right. It's kind of flat star shaped - not bell shaped. The leaves look like daffodils. I checked for an early white daffodil but did not find anything. The flower is quite small-maybe an inch.

Birdie

Well, Will, there's about two weeks before the Winter Solstice and then, the days will slowly start getting longer.

pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 6, 2011
5:12 PM

Post #8919204

Will, at least you know that your friend knows what all you do to help her. The sister, who may hate it, now knows too.

I want more snow!! LOL. The next snow won't be much either. It will be all up north of 36 hwy. Blah.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 6, 2011
7:55 PM

Post #8919394

Hehe! Yes, two weeks then more daylight! Then, by gosh, we'll be able to see the snow!! All kidding aside, then Spring is just around the corner! Oh, I'll get a flu shot this year still, I don't want no steenking killer flu!
I'll be getting flu shots from now on. I remember that song!
Yeah, my friend here knows what all I do. Her Sister won't believe ever, I don't think, how much I help out here, she is in total denial. I think she hates me more than ever for being here and "coming between them".
She is the one that rocked the boat, not me, I never said anything hateful like she did. Needless to say, I don't think I'll be eating anything that she prepares! I saw this new thing on tv for renewing a string of Christmas bulbs that have one bad bulb making the whole thing useless. I forgot the name of it but it's an "As seen on tv" thing.
Will
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 7, 2011
12:02 PM

Post #8920202

birder, is your flower a crocus? If so it is to bloom in the wee days of cold early spring, not the cold early days of winter...rofl. It is one of the first flowers I have up and out in early early early spring.

Lots of friends, family and coworkers have had the flu and most have had a flu shot. New strain so they are saying. I have a cold but no flu.

I have been Christmas shopping, and I love Christmas, altho this year I am late decorating, late wrapping, late cooking cookies, tick tock tick tock. I am usually decorated by the Sunday after Thanksgiving, so I am way late.

Will good thing you covered your pond. I have got to get out and put the heater in mine and hope I haven't killed the fish yet...I have been sick with this cold and just couldn't bring myself to go out after I get home from work in the dark with the cold winds and get it all plugged in. The next problem is I need to make sure the new puppies don't chew on the chord...
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 7, 2011
5:18 PM

Post #8920682

Happ: Nope, it's not a crocus! I forgot again to take a picture. I must remember tomorrow. I will write myself a sticky note and put it on the microwave. We use that every day. The leaves and stem is about 12 inches tall and the leaves look like daffodil leaves. I have crocus and really like them as they are a harbinger of spring.

We have one radio station that plays all Christmas music. It sure puts you in the holiday spirit.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 7, 2011
5:23 PM

Post #8920685

I listen to not so good Christmas music at work everyday, all day. lol. It's the "canned" version as we all call it. lol. The music on the radio is better but I have a hard time listening to it since I've been listening it to work since day after Thanksgiving. I try though!! LOL

More snow coming tomorrow night!! Whoo hoo!! Still a dusting but I'll take it!!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 7, 2011
6:04 PM

Post #8920717

I too am glad I covered the pond, but now it's all frozen! I want to take that plastic cover off, but get the leaves out first, but it's all frozen! I'd also like to put the waterlily root-mass thing down to the very deepest part of the pond which I'm quite sure it's not at now. It's supposed to get up to 50 degrees Sunday, I'll try to get it all done then, if it's not too late.

I did some more raking today. In this photo, you can really tell the difference between a 1994 car (blue, mine) and a 2011 car (white, not mine..lol) Tomorrow is the last yardwaste pickup of the year here. I've only raked up maybe 20% of all the leaves, I'll probably need to take the rest to the landfill in my trailer. I've set out about 6 more yardwaste sacks, but there is about 40 to go!

I can attest that feeling under-the-weather does hold you back from doing stuff! I was outside today just walking around my planted plants. I hope my vision of a yard that looks like a million bucks in my mind comes true next year! It looks like such a mess right now! That visiting Sister must look at it and think, "geez, what a mess he has made"! She won't be here long enuff to mess my yardwork up and upset me some more, so I should be okay there.

I like Christmas music too, it's comical how when you go shopping that's all you hear!

For anybody that has been following my stories of the elderly, disabled lady, unfortunately, she isn't talking, eating or drinking. By saying that here, it's not like I am telling anything that might insensitively surprise family members out there, her family is all here, it's only 2 people, 2 daughters.

I log out of DG now, so no chance that the Sister will see what I type.

Will



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birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 8, 2011
3:38 PM

Post #8921904

I always wonder how people that work in retail can stand Christmas music by the time Christmas gets here.

Here's the picture of the blooming flower bulb. I am sure it's a daffodil. I was just puzzled as it's the wrong time of year for a daffodil to be blooming! I wish I knew which cultivar it is. Note the width of the flower compared to the width of the leaves. If anyone knows which one this is, let me know. The flower is flat rather than a "trumpet". There's a little white "ruffle" around the center. It's so cute and such a surprise in December.

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birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 8, 2011
3:51 PM

Post #8921923

Here's another picture. I believe it's better.

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 8, 2011
5:20 PM

Post #8921989

Definitely a daffodil!! It must be confused. lol
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 9, 2011
6:03 AM

Post #8922399

That is a daff! Keep an eye on it, you may end up with a "sport" maybe a reblooming fall and spring. I would love to have fall blooming daffs. Could be your path to riches... ;)

Sorry to hear about your friends Mom, hope they make it thru the holidays, it is always hard no matter how well you think you are prepared. My nephew was so afraid something would happen to my Mom on his birthday, but luckily she made it past that point and time.

Tree is up with lights, but that is about it. I will be a busy busy girl this weekend...heavens how do I get so far behind.

Has anyone ever had daff bulbs that didn't get planted? What happens if they freeze? I bought some and just don't have time to plant them and wanted to store them in an unheated shed.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2011
7:15 AM

Post #8922472

Happ, if your ground is not frozen dig one hole and put them in it. I think they are so much better off in the ground. I just ordered some bulbs at a huge discount and plan to plant them. P. Allen Smith says you can plant bulbs as long as the ground is not frozen. If it were me, I would just bite the bullet, dig the hole, put a marker in them and be done with it. It would probably take no more than thirty minutes of your day. I always feel better once I get them in the ground--somewhere. I lose the nagging guilt.

Yes, it's a daffodil, but I was thrown off because it was blooming in the fall--Late fall! Oh what fun! And it's such a cute little thing!

I made gumbo last night. We always had it on Christmas Eve or within three days of Dec. 25th. when Dad was living. He always made it. I tried to keep the tradition going but my son doesn't like seafood and there's a couple of others that don't like it. Then, you have to make two soups and on and on. Plus, the family doesn't get together for Christmas since the folks are gone. I made the soup early as my son will be home for Christmas and I'm not having it when he is here.

Sorry to hear about the elderly lady. She's like a part of the stories on this web site. I think the best thing would be t keep quiet, stay out of the way and be supportive by your actions: like making meals (even if they are simple), keeping the house clean, and offer to run errands. Hugs to your friend are nice too! :)

I have Nandina bushes I can look at from my living room window. The berries are very bright red-orange and huge clusters. So nice. The berries on my beautyberry are a gorgeous red-violet. They have turned a deeper color now that it is freezing outside.
The berries on the Brandywine start out white, then pink, then light blue, dark blue and now dark navy blue. This is the first fall we have had it and it has been fun to watch the berry color progression.

Birdie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
9:02 AM

Post #8922602

Daffodils this time of year! How cool! The elderly lady passed away yesterday here at home, she wasn't alone when she passed. Thanks happ and birder, she was an interesting lady.
I do that stuff you said most of the time birdie, I gave my friend about 5 hugs since yesterday. I am sorry to hear about your Mom happ, losing family members stinks too. I'm kinda glad I'm the oldest kid.
Will





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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
5:02 PM

Post #8923199

Sorry to hear about your friend's mom. At least she is at peace now.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
7:39 PM

Post #8923354

Thanks pepper.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2011
2:53 PM

Post #8924228

I swept the leaves off the porch and did some dishes, nothing much exciting. Yesterday, I did some gutter cleaning. I kinda procrastinated on that, now my fingers get as cold as the dickens! I come in after every few feet of the gutter to let my fingertips get feeling back! It's my own fault for putting it off so long! I'm almost done, I have maybe 20 feet of gutter left. Well, only a few more days then Winter Solstice! I got a pic of my gutterjob, it's a pic of something! I wish I had a pic of a pretty flower, but not yet! Spring is just around the corner tho! Oh happ, we were in East Independence doing some shopping this morning and we went by the old Indep. airport and it's just a field except those 2 Oak trees and a housing development further up on that property to the North. I heard the owner man of that airport restaurant with the good pies went to a restaurant in Independence called The Big Biscuit.
Will

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2011
5:45 PM

Post #8925534

The Big Biscuit is on Old 40 across from Stevenson's. Never eaten there but it's been there a loooooonnng time!! Heard good things though.

I haven't gone down in the old airport area since before the bridges were done. I don't really want to see the damage. I hate the airport is gone just so they could heavily develop the area.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2011
6:43 PM

Post #8925580

Oh, The Big Biscuit is good! It's always packed with people. It is good eating, I've been there for breakfast several times. You have to fill up your stomach there, the food is too good, you can't stop at just a little!
Yeah, East Independence, or eastern Jackson County was touted as going to have a "population explosion" and "everybody is moving there". Well, I don't think their moving there that fast! I think alot of development was done but not that many people out there as they thought. We went to Bed, Bath and Beyond in that shopping district North of I-70 and West of Little Blue Expressway and we saw at least 2 businesses that were recently closed. Maybe they had relocated or something, but they were closed for sure, O'Charleys and On The Border. There is some population growing out there but I think it's happening slower with less people than they thought. It's probably still people that don't have that much extra money anyway. The new airport people were probably thinking, "oh, there's gold in them hills!". I remember, years ago, when they were hunting a location for The Independence Events Center, an investment company bought this one prime tract of land in East Indep. with the sole purpose of gouging whoever wanted to buy it. The city of Indep. wanted it for the Events Center but wasn't paying the inflated price. I think the city was going to drop the hammer on them for gouging. I forgot what happened exactly but I think the city passed on that plot of land.

JuJu55

JuJu55
Jasper Co., MO
(Zone 6b)

December 12, 2011
10:30 AM

Post #8926307

Merry Christmas 2011 and Happy New Year 2012...

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2011
4:48 PM

Post #8926863

Tree looks great Rusty!!
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 13, 2011
7:40 AM

Post #8927615

Now that is Christmasy Rusty! HO HO HO!
I had a rude awakening yesterday when I figured out next Friday is the 23rd and I am not done, not done decorating, not done shopping, not done wrapping, not done baking (actually haven't even started that...rofl). Geehz, where did December go, now if the rest of the winter will fly by I will be happy!

Hope everything is going good for you Will, and your friend is doing good. Our family made it thru Thanksgiving just fine and we even had a good time, I was really worried, now with Christmas fast approaching I am a little concerned, this was my Moms favorite holiday, so she would not want us sad and I sure don't want to be sad but it has already been hard at times, but mostly good.

I signed up for pottery classes at the Red Star Studio for the month of January. I got a groupon coupon for 1/2 off. That studio is in the building where I work, so I can just go downstairs and be there. Always wanted to try it. I really want to make some vases that actually work for flowers... ;)

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 13, 2011
1:06 PM

Post #8928085

Will, if anything, set the bags of leaves around the house for insulation. I know, it might look tacky, but it might keep some cold air out too.

People who treat their jobs like they don't care don't need to be working that kind of job. He should be foired. There was no reason to not be careful of the Hosta. It sure didn't look like a weed.

Grinning over the leaves NOT in the pond!

Hey, if you can't mention things like that to us... Getting a little sympathy never hurt anyone :o)

I think your friend knows just how much you do, plus you're good company. If you never did anything but sit on the couch it would be a whole 'nuther story.

Birder,
Uh huh uh huh!

Well, I came across a recipe where you drape bacon over it and bake. Simple! You went to the extreme, but I'll bet your's was delicious!

1 1/4 # loin
3 scallions trimmed, cut lengthwise
5 strips bacon

Slit the pork lengthwise and lay the scallions inside. Fold up. Wrap the bacon around.

Rub 1/2 t. pepper and 1T. sugar over the bacon.

Roast at 425* 20 mins or to 150*. Let stand 10 minutes.

I'm not doing the scallions.

Lights have improved over the years. We are now buying the LED's. When we take them down, DH unwinds and I loop over my arm. We secure with zip strips and hang in the garage till next Christmas. We ALWAYS plug them in before hanging. Learned the hard way to do that!

Grinning, I just used my potato water for refrigerator rolls :o)
We don't need to eat either, but that isn't going to stop me from baking.

If winter goes as fast as November and December, we will be seeing spring! Wooo Hooo!

Pepper,
STILL waiting for snow?

Will,
DH saw the same commercial but can't remember the name either, LOL!

Happ,
I have the same cold I got the day after Thanksgiving. Dang Grandsons!

Will,
Her time may be coming to an end. Peace to her.

Birdie,
I think Daffodil too, and what a great suprise!

Food traditions are nice and at least you had the satisfaction of making it after all.

Yes, she is part of us isn't she.

Your berry colors sound so wonderful!

Will,
I am so sorry. I know she was a part of your life too. At least the sister was here. She can be glad for that.

Rusty,
What a cute little tree all shiny and bright!

Happ,
Did I miss your Mom's passing?
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 13, 2011
2:10 PM

Post #8928201

Yes nice outdoor Christmas tree, Rusty. If that's a Spruce, pretty soon you'll be climbing up it to put lights in it! Thanks happ, everything is okay here. The elderly lady loved Christmas too.
I agree, I hope they disciplined that Comcast installer guy, I think he was pretty inept. Haha, leaves are everywhere, I'm going out in a while to try to get the leaves out of the pond before they get frozen in there, which will look like poo! That's very true, I have virtually turned my friend's life around by helping out here, her Mom always dis-allowed me for years, (and nothing ever got done), but I was eventually able to help not only my friend but her Mom as well in their time of need. Yes, sympathy is good indeed! Thanks, she was a good woman, it wasn't nearly all bad, like I've said on here of her berating me and all, I was just being funny at my own expense. I can't even count all the times I fed her by mouth, held her hand, or gave her drink at 3 am, we were never short or nasty with her, she was a queen. It's unfortunate how things had to end, there was no violence, things got verbally nasty, I shouldn't say much, it's depressing.
If there is another piece of advice that I can give to anybody, it is this: If you have an older family member out of state or long distance, (or any age), visit them as often as time off and finances will allow, send supplies and much money, show you care in all respects.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 13, 2011
4:52 PM

Post #8928373

YES!!! I'm still WAITING!!!! It's raining now. I'd rather it snow. I'm having trouble with hydroplaning in this winter rain. Snow is much easier to drive in. lol. Well, kinda anyways. LOL

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 14, 2011
3:24 AM

Post #8928895

The boys gave me a cold. Arrrrgggghhh! I've had something since Thanksgiving! I'm drinking my tomato juice. I even got up last night for a glassful, LOL!

Will,
There isn't an unkind bone in yur body so don't think for a minute we didn't get the jokes :o)
The sister forgets that she wasn't around to help her sister out, and you were. She'll have to deal with it when she goes home.

Pepper,
Grinning. You want perfect snow. I must confess with Christmas lights up, I'd like to see snow on the ground too.

I am so glad we raked the tree mess out of the flower bed or all those sticks and sawdust would have eventually froze to the ground till next spring. Right now they would be in mud!
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 14, 2011
6:06 AM

Post #8929020

So warm and humid this morning, strange. Hope some of my early flowers don't think it is spring, they probably feel like winter really flew by...rofl. Last night on the wet roads people were crashing and burning left and right, good grief. If it doesn't rain or snow every day these crazies forget how to drive... ;(

Well may have found homes for my two strays, both going to one home. Fingers crossed they came out last night or the wife did and the husband and her will pick them up on Thursday. They just moved out on 16 acres and I think he must travel and I am guessing they want dogs there with her. They are good pups, and so lovey. I have them sitting, they know when I drive up I won't pet them unless they sit. So when she drove up they came around the house and DH told them to sit and down they went... ;) That is the only thing they know...rofl.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 14, 2011
11:15 AM

Post #8929419

Thanks for the kind words, billyp. I don't mean to sound like I'm tooting my own horn up there by saying I helped my friend alot. I'm just in the process of helping her out of a big, overwhelming household rut here at home.
I went out and tried to scoop some leaves out of the pond, it is easier said than done I'm afraid, it's hard not to fall in head-first! I too, have had a cold or something since shortly after Thanksgiving, whatever it is is hanging on. Last nite, I musta sweat out a couple of buckets, my arms were just covered in sweat as well as everything else. I've been changing shirts most nites.
I bet they really like getting obedient stray dogs, happ. I don't think I've ever had a dog that would sit.
It will soon be cold enuff to snow, Pepper! Today, it is quite warm and muggy, it is 61 now! - http://www.nbcactionnews.com/subindex/weather/forecast/7_day_forecast
I might try later to get more leaves out of the pond, I might just get all nuts and just take the plastic sheet off, the leaves are done falling!
Will

pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 14, 2011
5:15 PM

Post #8929837

Bring the snow on!!! LOL!!! My brakes much prefer snow over rain. LOL. RIght now my brakes are super sensitive since they are pretty wet. Touch the petal and I'm skidding.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 15, 2011
4:18 AM

Post #8930280

Oh Happ,
It sounds like a wonderful home for them! Finally, a true ''going to live on a farm'' story with a happy ending.
When we were icy last week, same story. Idiots!

Will,
You don't toot, LOL!!
I'm sure she appreciates a handy guy around the house. She knows how much time, trouble and money you have saved her.
I haven't sweated yet, so mine is just a cold, or a touch of sinus. I took night time Coricidin (sp?) last night, slept like a baby and have no signs of a cold today. Yesterday, I was disgusting, with sneezing, being plugged then nose running. If I didn't pass it on to the babies I'll be suprised. Who knew that was going to happen! I took cold capsules that morning too.

Pepper,
No wonder! We can't have that! Especially on your gravel roads!
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 15, 2011
6:53 AM

Post #8930437

Yesterday rainy and warm, today sunny and cold? Huh? LOL.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 15, 2011
6:17 PM

Post #8931202

Yeah, what a turnaround in weather we've had! Now it's cold! But, at least my plants in the window get some light!

I think my friend appreciates having a somewhat handyperson around. Hows the saying go? I'm a jack-of-all-trades and a master of none! I'm pretty handy I guess. By gosh, I can use a circular saw and a drill!
Hehe, I HAVE saved her a bunch in time, money and trouble! Sometimes, I have to remind her that I've given her over $8,000 since I've been here, that usually brings her down a couple octaves!

I am feeling quite a bit better, I guess I'll see if the betterness is genuine! Night time Coricidin eh?
I was thinking about something that I typed up there. I was thinking, "oh no, it looks like I'm saying my armpits were sweating"! Haha, everybody's underarms sweat! I was talking about the tops of my forearms even were sweating in bed! Today, at the bank, I told the teller that they should have hand sanitizer out in front by the counters like other places do in the cold and flu season. I told her, "no big deal, just everything I touch has the flu on it". Maybe they'll all get sick and then get the hand sanitizer out there! I'm getting a flu shot asap! I always worry too about passing on the sickness. If your grandkids get it, it was bound to happen, anybody close would be at risk, it wouldn't be your fault Sally. I always looked at it like there's a 50/50 chance somebody close would get sick from me.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 15, 2011
6:39 PM

Post #8931231

I am doing nothing, not that I don't have things to do I am just not doing them...getting really lazy. Must be winter... ;)
I still have a cough but that is it. Be glad when it is gone.

Well the "nice" couple who said they wanted the puppies, who asked my husband if he would be home on Thursday (which he waited all day for) didn't come by and didn't call. I am not sure why people either don't honor what they say or at least have the decency to call and say we have changed our minds. This makes the second set of folks who have done this. Sure hope no one calls DH and says "Will you be home on such and such day"? cause they may get an ear full. Well I am glad they didn't take them if they didn't really want them. They are such sweeties, I just don't need 6 dogs again.

Guess for Christmas I should ask for dog food...rofl.

shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 15, 2011
7:03 PM

Post #8931262

People do that on craigslist ALOT too, it's like they want to hold you up so you don't sell it to someone else while they shop, or in your case so you don't give the dogs to anyone else while they look around maybe. What I put in my Craigslist ads now is "first come, first serve". I think that thwarts quite a few people! Before I did that, I'd literally be waiting on "buyers" for cars or something that never would come.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 16, 2011
3:30 AM

Post #8931676

Will,
Money is about as dirty as the kitchen sponge. They SHOULD have hand sanitizers! Good idea!

The kids and other family members all get flu shots. DD has done it since the oldest was born because the Dr. reccomends it. I had the flu as a kid and wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Happ,
Try Mucinex. It really helps break up a cough. Even the Dr. said it does what it says. I can give the Grandkids a kid's version. It lets them sleep.

I wonder what happened to them? A phone call sure would have been nice.

Will,
I think that's smart. Why let people use you?

Well, grandkids tonight so no time for me unless I take it this afternoon. I have more gifts to wrap and hide, or at least hide, LOL! Still waiting on a final order so I only have to get the mess out one last time.

I'd like to mix up sugar cookies of they aren't sneezing and coughing.

Have a good day everyone!
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 16, 2011
6:00 AM

Post #8931762

The really stupid thing about these folks calling and not showing up is we have their phone number. I wanted to call and ask what time they would be out, but DH wouldn't let me...LOL Just be nice to hear them tap dance...rofl. Oh well, like I said I want the pups to go to good homes not to some nut cases. I thought DH had learned his lesson about not getting a time, the last time, but I am pretty sure it won't happen again...rofl.

I am going to finsh shopping this weekend...period the end of the subject. The decorating is done, well not really but this is all I am doing this year...LOL The next week I am just going to be lazy...which I am getting very good at I must say.

pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 16, 2011
5:20 PM

Post #8932557

Last day of shopping? YEAH RIGHT!!! LOL!!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 16, 2011
6:15 PM

Post #8932602

Money is as dirty as the kitchen sponge! Haha! I sometimes microwave it for 30 seconds like they say to do! Not money, the sponge..lol Wouldn't that be funny if they put microwaves on the counters at the bank?!

I too, have thought about calling people that said they were coming to buy something (and never came), just to listen to them squirm!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 17, 2011
4:50 PM

Post #8933527

How about my mound of potted plants and leaves? I raked and covered these pots up with leaves, I hope it works for the Winter!! I got Heucheras in there, Hostas, a couple of Plum trees, Grape plants, a Porcelain Vine,
a Rose-Of-Sharon, even a cheapo Yucca, a Fall special $3 Leyland Cypress from 2010. That's a pile of cheap plants! The most expensive plant in there is the 2 Plum trees, they were half of $19.98 each back in the Fall of 2010. They mighta been cheap but I do want them to come thru the Winter. I have plans for many of them, I just ran outta time to get them planted this year or the place to plant them isn't really ready, (like Hostas, Heucheras and Hyssop around the shed, but I haven't painted the shed yet).
Will



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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 17, 2011
4:50 PM

Post #8933528

I made a big pot of that running Bamboo for my tropical area! It won't be running far in that big red planter. it doesn't have big holes in the bottom of the planter like those black plastic pots. I feel pretty confident that any rhizomes won't get out the bottom, because the drain holes are just little drill holes I drilled in there. They can't get over the top of the planter either because it's soil stops about 6 or 8 inches from the top! If it don't look right in the "tropical spot' or it don't take for some reason I can just move the pot.

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happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 17, 2011
5:59 PM

Post #8933612

Well, I shopped and shopped and Pepper you are right, rofl, not quite done, but pretty darn close or closer... ;)

I have been wrapping.

Someone is suppose to come meet the pups tomorrow, we told them to call before they come because we have waited for way too many people and they were agreeable so we will see.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 17, 2011
7:00 PM

Post #8933692

I can say that I am done shopping!! LOL!! I still have stuff to sort thru to give as gifts but that's easy.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 18, 2011
8:52 AM

Post #8934263

I should be wrapping but I am stalling, not sure why. Think I am returning two gifts I got yesterday after reading the reviews on the products. Darn I hate that...LOL It would be nice to have a smart phone to look that stuff up while I am in the store.

Last night sounded like I might get snow up here this week. Pepper you will have to come north to play in the snow.

pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 18, 2011
4:34 PM

Post #8934729

LOL. I heard we could get a mix now. I-70 will be the border. Again.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 19, 2011
4:31 PM

Post #8936076

Tonite, Gary Lezak, the head meteorologist on NBC news says we have a 40% chance for a white Christmas! It might not do anything that day, but it still could snow before Christmas.
I-70 is the border again eh?! I live about 4 miles North of I-70! They are always saying 70 is the border, or the Missouri River, usually I-70 tho! It's funny, alot of times they are right on that!
I'd love to have some snow! Tho, not really looking forward to shoveling it and cleaning off car's windshields!

I hope this upside down trash can provides some decent Winter protection for the Banana 'basjoo' underneath it!

Boy, is it ever raining steadily today, glad it's 36 now, and not much colder yet!

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happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 20, 2011
6:24 AM

Post #8936767

teeny tiny bit of snow at my house last night...just a drop of two.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 20, 2011
5:33 PM

Post #8937359

Nothing here except rain. Today we got a drizzle all day and that's it.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 20, 2011
5:41 PM

Post #8937368

It was a heavy drizzle here today, pretty gloomy. Now, Lezak has changed the 40% chance for a white Christmas down to a 2% chance as of today!
I need to get the thermostat in my car and fast!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 20, 2011
6:34 PM

Post #8937415

Don't listen to him!! LOL
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 21, 2011
2:41 PM

Post #8938482

Will, today is the shortest day of the year. The Winter Solstice begins tonight at 12:30 AM.
We've had light rain and mist. Our average rainfall is about 47 inches. We have received about 73 inches. It's a light, misty rain, so that's okay with me.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 21, 2011
4:22 PM

Post #8938568

Oh good, come on Winter Solstice! Spring is getting closer! Haha, I think it has to be a little higher than a 2% chance of snow by Christmas myself, but I'm not a meteorologist like Lezak, so oh well! I think just being cold enuff to snow should be more than a 2% chance! I got out and raked up a couple more yard sacks of leaves, oh joy, 30 to go!

I got an old window from my Mom! I plan to do the idea that I got from happ and put it on the old red shed here eventually. My Mom coincidentally was gonna use that window for that very reason, but she found out her shed is made of metal. She had asked if I wanted an old window and I said "sure", it hit me what happ said to do with an old window! Here it is in the photo. That shed needs a window bad, it is windowless, with the door closed or close, it is too dark to see in there. I plan to cut out a big rectangle in the side of the shed and put that window in there! And below that will be a flowerbox.

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 21, 2011
4:22 PM

Post #8938569

Here's at least a couple more sacks of leaves, under the deck!

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 21, 2011
6:47 PM

Post #8938682

Happy Birthday Rusty!!!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 22, 2011
2:47 PM

Post #8939620

I was dong some shopping this afternoon and it was blowing and spitting snow, not enuff to accumulate, dangit! I was at Walmart in line and this lady set off the alarm. I don't think she stole anything, I think it just goes off all the time. Anyway, she says, "I paid for this stuff!", she says to the old greeter lady, "come on!", it was pretty pathetic, the irate lady was soon swarmed by Walmart people. I couldn't believe it, she was gonna let the greeter have it! Tempers are short at Walmart. I even got verbally abused, when I knocked some stuff over that was stacked in the aisle. This lady (or young adult lady) didn't give me enuff room to get by, so I hit the Walmart stuff with my cart accidently. I never said anything. I was bent over picking it all up and she tells somebody "I'm not in the way, he is". In the checkout some rude guy in line had to let a lady know she took too long. I told my cashier, "I want to get outta here"! I sat in my car at Target so I took a photo at my Target stop. JC Penney and it wasn't nearly as bad as Walmart. I guess Christmas makes folks mad!

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pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 22, 2011
5:58 PM

Post #8939787

I'm not a big fan of Walmart. The people in majority of the ones I go into are rude. Not all but alot of them. And I found out yesterday that they are remodeling the Blue Springs store...again. Crazy!!! Hope we can find stuff this time!!

greenbrain

greenbrain
Madison, IL
(Zone 6b)

December 24, 2011
4:41 PM

Post #8941859

I'm so sorry to hear about the rudeness you've experienced at Wal-Mart. I try to go off hours on week days & avoid the 1st few days of the month. I was shopping at the Granite City, IL Wal-Mart on Thursday evening & the atmosphere was friendly. I believe that the mood was set by a cute little girl who sang (very loudly) one Christmas carol after the other while she walked thru the store with her dad. She was dressed very festively & it was hard not to smile. : )
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 24, 2011
5:32 PM

Post #8941900

Well, today was a good day until it was time for me to get off work. I was trying to move a case of canned tomatoes and had a can fall out and hit me above my left eye. It cut me in my eyebrows right where the bone is. Had to go over to customer service where one of my bosses helped me stop the bleeding and write up a report on it. My eye is now swelling and bruising. lol. I got lucky though. Was able to stop the bleeding with some strong pressure on it. I was shaky for awhile afterwards and my main boss followed me to my road to make sure I got home ok. I gave him quite a scare. Even when he got home he was still checking in on me. I won't need stitches or anything either so I got lucky. Just have a black eye to show off tomorrow!! lol

Hope everyone else is having a much less eventful day!!!

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 25, 2011
12:10 PM

Post #8942408

Merry Christmas!

I read, but won't comment since I'm behind.

Except to say, I hope your eye feels better Pepper. That's a terrible thing to happen!

Well guys,
In March when my subscription runs out, I'm not going to re-up. I just don't have time anymore since I see the Grandkids four times a week. Something has to give and I just decided this afternoon I have to let this go. I'm not using half of what I'm paying for, LOL!

I'm sure I'll see you around.

Anyway, I'm not gone yet.

Have a peaceful day!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 25, 2011
4:23 PM

Post #8942560

Eye is much better. Still hurts and is still swollen but the bruising is gone.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 26, 2011
2:46 AM

Post #8942883

I'm glad Pepper.

Will, how is your friend doing? Has sister gone home yet?

To comment after all, our Walmart has good checkers. Always cheerful even if they are having a bad day. They don't take it out on us, but shake their head at themselves. I feel lucky. Most of them are older women who have been there awhile they recognize us too. I think I make them smile because I walk in with a clothesbasket full of cloth zippered bags. Then I pack my own stuff. All they have to do is set it on the table.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 26, 2011
8:02 PM

Post #8943734

Eek pepper, that sounded painful. I hope it heals up nicely for you.

Thanks greenbrain, that rudeness is pretty unusual even for a Walmart. I think the crowd and the Christmas pressure had something to do with the short tempers there. Though, I couldn't imagine any reason to be mad enuff to challenge a greeter. Man, that chaps my hide when I think about what they say about the Walmart heirs. They say six Walmart heirs have as much wealth as the bottom 30% of all americans.

Oh, Sally. I hope you'll change your mind about not renewing when your subscription is up, that's just 2 months away. You are such a great friend to everybody and me. You can't cancel so close to Springtime! You have pretty flower beds and all and you have good knowledge for others, (like me) to soak in! You are very dedicated to flowers and plants, your knowledge would be sorely missed. People do have lives I suppose.
Thanks for asking about my friend, she is fine. The Sister has gone home.

Here is me petting our cat Grubworm! Like my friend's Grandfather's WW1 helmet and old framed photos?!

Boy, paying personal property taxes before the end of the year crept up on me this year, I'm just tonite getting the check in the mail, actually, it even made the photo, along with Christmas fudge and cookies and the SliceOmatic!

We saw Sherlock Holmes today. It's a good movie, it's neat how authentic they are to the period also, 1891.

Oh, another Christmas has come and gone! And now on to the New Year and the resolutions I never keep!

Will

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 26, 2011
8:02 PM

Post #8943735

Here is some plants that I got in the window! See the Banana plants? I'm going to try to grow them and do the digging them up and growing them in the house even! They are such a nice tropical plant to have! Makes you think your in the tropics somewhere on the beach! Like my desert terrarium? I think I'll get a Skink Lizard in it to keep my $2 cactus company!

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happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 27, 2011
6:38 AM

Post #8943998

Plants look nice, what is in the fish bowl below? I can't spell aquarimun and too lazy to look it up...rofl.
Oh BillyP, give up sleep...rofl. We can't lose you. You will have to do like me and just hit and miss when time allows. I love the pics of your garden and get great ideas from it.

Christmas was great. I didn't shop the day after, cause that is when the crazys are really out. Looking forward to the calm of January, I have some things I want to do. I put up most the decorations yesterday, so I will be ready for the calm of January.

Good weather coming our way.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 27, 2011
9:21 AM

Post #8944193

Thanks. Haha! That IS an aquarium, but it is now a desert terrarium..lol! I found it in the basement so I asked if I could use it for a terrarium. It used to have a plant over on the left and another one over on the right and they both died, I have yet to get all their remains out. It is wedged in that bottom shelf good, not enuff room for cats to get in there and mess around! That little round cactus is tough, it hasn't had any sunlight since I bought it at Home Depot in June. It seems to be plugging right along, it's green, so that always good! I only water it once a month or so with that red squirt bottle, it seems fine with that schedule. It is called Mammalaria marksiana, it gets 6" in diameter eventually it says. I'll prolly need to get it some quality light before it takes off like that, (all it has, is those skinny fishlight bulbs in that cover) it's supposed to have a nice flower too.
That plant in the middle is cut flowers that are looking pretty bad, they are flowers my friend got on the passing of her Mom 19 days ago. Like my former dishsoap water-bottle?! Haha! No need to answer, I just like pointing stuff out..lol! I keep all the glues in that basket too!

Yeah, billyp!

They said on the news that the day after Christmas was record breaking for returns and even people shopping for great deals, I'm not braving the crowds either! I can just see the customer service line at Walmart!
AND the moods of the people in it!

60 F Thursday, they say!

Just edited to say those are roadside limestone rocks in the photo too, aren't they lovely?!

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birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 27, 2011
12:14 PM

Post #8944335

I too hate to see you, billporter, leave DG. You have great ideas. I use DG website a lot and sure enjoy reading other gardener's comments and questions. I have learned a lot by belonging to this website, and it is well worth the money. I am always researching some kind of plant and ending up on DG to find information regarding the plant I am interested on that day! Grandchildren are special.

Pepper, so sorry to hear about your accident. My daughter has had accidents on both brows and has a scar on them. Her eyebrows are not real dark, so the scars don't show up very much. Man, it seems your job is hazardous!

We took our son to the St L. airport yesterday. My daughter wanted to stop at one store in a mall on the way back home. We drove into the mall and stayed on the outside circle road. The traffic was HORRIFIC!! We could not get into the parking lot and my daughter ended up getting out of the car from the outside road and going into the mall only to find out the store she wanted to shop in wasn't even in that mall. She came back to the car--we had only moved about three car lengths. People literally pulled in front of us, and we would have hit them if we hadn't let them butt in. We spent an hour going around the outside of the mall trying to get back out. Many times, we just turned off the car while we were waiting to move forward. It was raining and getting dark. It was a horrendous experience and we still had a two hour drive home.

I am quite interested in starting various penstemon from seed via winter sowing. If anyone has any info on the best penstemons to grow in the midwest, please share your knowledge. One of my favorite flowers is the tall snapdragon. I have a hard time starting them from seed and by the time they are big enough to set out, it's pouring spring rains, and I wait until the soil dries out--then, it's too hot for the little seedlings to do well. So, I am looking into growing penstemons and foxgloves. Foxgloves are biennials and although I really like them, I want to grow Penstemons as they are perennials. I like planting them once, and you are done other than plant care etc. I do grow foxgloves via winter sowing every year also. I have very good success with them. They grow all summer, then, I plant them into my gardens in the fall. They stay fairly everygreen all winter long with beautiful large textured, fuzzy green leaves. Thus, I have better luck growing biannuals and perennials from seed vs. annuals.
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

December 27, 2011
12:55 PM

Post #8944383

I have a friend who loves penstemon, I have never grown them, if I can remember which is a big if. I will see if I can find out which ones she has success with. We are one zone colder than you so they should do fine at your house. I haven't really started anything from seeds.

Pepper did both eyes black or just one? Wowzer, those cans are really heavy. You have wacked your foot and now your head, you really otta stop while you are a head...wonk wonk, no pun intended... ;) You know there are easier ways to get out of work...rofl, just kidding you. Nice of them to check on you, my boss probably would of sit me back and my desk until time to go home... ;)



pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

December 27, 2011
4:40 PM

Post #8944682

It was just a regular sized can of tomatoes not the big ones thankfully. lol. It just got my left eyebrow and that eye bruised up for a couple days but now the swelling and everything is gone. I just have the cut and it's healing nicely. I'm not sure if it will scar or not. I personally don't care if it does or not. lol.

shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 27, 2011
8:35 PM

Post #8945016

The scars on my eyebrows haven't given me any grief. When I was 5, I rolled over on a cat and it scratched my face all up. In the above photo even, you can see the scar on my left brow, it's pretty noticeable.
It's in the middle, on the top of that eyebrow, eyebrow hair doesn't grow there. As far as scars on my face from that, I got lucky, only my eyebrows got one scar each. If you get a scar on your eyebrow, Pepper, your not alone! : )

edited for changing right to left, or the one in the photo..haha!

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billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 28, 2011
3:04 PM

Post #8945683

Thank you, whoever paid for another year for me here.

Thanks Will,
This will be one of four threads I keep up with.

I love Sherlock Holmes and have four books with a lot of the stories.

That's a good picture of you!

Love the plants! They all look nice. A neighbor gave me a really nice Diffenbachia, but with kids and cats I had to run it down to my SIL's. I can't take the chance of any of them touching it.

Yeah, a skink would be cool!

Yeah, the rocks are lovely!

Thanks Happ,
We went shopping today and it was nice.


Birder,
Thanks, I'll be here another year :o)

That was a nightmare!

I love penstemon, but don't have much reseed on it's own. I've never tried any either.

Will,
I got a big laugh over the cat scar, but I'm sure it hurt like the dickens when it happened. I remember catching a wild kitten. Never again!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 28, 2011
7:42 PM

Post #8946007

Cool Sally! There is an anonymous DG'er here somewhere! I too, was paid for by a generous sort here, a while back. My friend here, did something like that at her work, she was "Secret Santa", people were even crying because they really wanted the stuff she got them and they were touched, it's a nice feeling to be able to get something you want.

Thanks, a good picture of me?! Hehe! I was all in mid-sentence or something in the photo! My head is like 5 shades darker than everything else, and I wear a straw hat whenever possible, I think that's just a sign of being old, getting all sun-grizzled and stuff!

Thanks on the compliments on my plants billyp, they need more light, poor things, until Spring anyway! I might get them a shoplite if their good! Altho, I believe Walmart has jacked up the price from $5.96 or so to $9.96, up $4 a bulb! They get pretty decent Winter sunlight, but it isn't nearly as much as they'd like I'm fairly sure.

That cat's scratches DID hurt I remember, it was a bad ordeal at the time, there was blood everywhere, I was mortified when it happened. I thought that I was playing with the cat, it wasn't playing with me! I got lucky, those eyebrow scars are as bad as it got, my eyes were spared. Back then though, my face was just all scratched up for awhile, I remember, which stunk when your in kindergarten. I won't even say what my Dad did to the cat.
Yeah, feral cats aren't that good until they've been housecats awhile or something. Back when I lived in a mobile home, this stray cat was always crawling thru my ducts, tearing it all up. It was meowing at all the vents in the middle of the nite! I let it in eventually, where it wanted so bad, and it bit me on the chin and drew blood again! I took it to a neighboring mobile home park about 5 miles away and turned it out!
Will

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 29, 2011
4:20 AM

Post #8946286

Where should I post a

formal ''Thank You'' to my

anonymus donator? I

would like to make sure

people know of the

generosity.

I feel very well liked and it

is a good feeling. You

think you're just another

fish in the pond and you

find out you've grown with

everyone else. I think I'll

save that paragraph for my

thank you.

Grinning, when we wear gardening gloves and t-shirts we get the tan that looks like it. You look fine! I didn't notice the color difference.

Are you buying the newer thinner shop lights? I think they are cheaper, AND have better lighting. Everything goes up in price it seems.

We have the neighbor's fiesty cat. If you are in a lazyboy type chair, he will sit on top or wrap around your neck. He gets excited and will bite my hair and head. I don't let him sit behind me anymore. It's too scary!! He's too close to my eyes too!

I'll bet it was mortifying, even in kindergarten.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

December 29, 2011
1:41 PM

Post #8946827

Thanks Sally! That is a neat saying you have there, we ARE just fish in a pond! Boy, this is a cool video. It is going mega-viral, it's a Youtube video - http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-26797925/sick-teen-s-videos-go-viral-after-death-27729605.html . It's religious, so if it needs to be edited out, I'll understand, it's just a neat g-rated video of a kid's story. The elderly, disabled lady always spoke of a bright white light, that wasn't there for me, and she was blind. I've never seen a Youtube video with so many views and going up real fast. I wasn't in the room when the disabled, elderly lady died but they said she looked like she saw something before she took her last breath.

The new, thin shoplites? No, I never really looked into them but I'll look at them when I go. I saw them, but I always thought they were too dim at first glance. I'm curious about the "full spectrum, natural lighting", that they say resembles sunlight. I'm wondering how can that not be suitable for plants?

I'm cautious around any cat that I don't know the history of, they say a cat that hasn't been fixed can get excited and bite or scratch the stuffing out of you!

I potted up the seeds I got for Christmas, the Banana plant seeds and the Catgrass seeds! Disregard the toilet in the photo..lol Hehe! That Ivy plant isn't real!







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billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 31, 2011
10:21 AM

Post #8948920

Will,
I did use it, and I found where to put my thank you.

Wow, that was some video. Poor kid.

I'm glad your lady saw light. I believe.

What you do is Google lights. The lumens are what count. Don't waste your money on any of the plant bulbs, real sunlight etc.

Grinning over your workbench :o)

Snow tonight. Wind today and tonight. Right now it's nice and I'm going for a walk.

Happy New Years Eve!
happgarden
Kansas City (Joyce), MO
(Zone 5a)

January 1, 2012
7:39 AM

Post #8949808

HAPPY NEW YEARS, everyone!

Oh so glad you aren't leaving us BillyP.

Birder that sounds like a shopping nightmare for sure...rofl. We go to a mall called Oak Park on black Friday and trying to exit is like that, course we get there around 5am or so and the incoming isn't bad, but leaving is pretty bad, nothing like the folks trying to come in tho.

My Mom lived in an apartment so course it didn't have windows all way around, so in her small dining area she never used we put up a plant stand and I just bought normal shop lights with a plug in on the end from Home Depot and hung them with chain from the plant stand and that is where she got her additional lights for the african violets and other plants. Her plants just bloomed like crazy. It took awhile to get the distance right but I would highly suggest it for folks who need additional light and it isn't real expensive.

We had rain last night which surprised me.

My Boss rescued a stray cat and it scratched his hand and he got "cat scratch fever" and ended up in the hospital. I had never heard of anyone getting that before but it is real. He is fine and so is the cat.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

January 1, 2012
5:26 PM

Post #8950530

Yes, Happy New Years! I am finally going to break down and get a lizard for that desert terrarium up there, I might get a Leopard Gecko or maybe even a Skink Lizard. I don't want to spend more than $10 or so on one, that likely rules out any Geckos. I'd like to catch a Skink for free, but they are fast and they run and hide. I politely told the girl at Petco on the phone after she told me the high prices on Lizards yesterday that, "maybe I'll just get crickets".

Home Depot lights eh? I'll have a look at those too. Lights and light spectrums and they vary so widely, it's all confusing. I think one would have to have a degree in lumenology or something! But I agree, the regular old shoplite bulbs are likely sufficient for plants. I saw that even incandescent bulbs have a small degree of benefit for plants, I got an old lamp over the orchid and a couple other plants further away. At Petsmart tonite, I was looking at lizards and stuff, they had "reptile lights" (one incandescent bulb), I couldn't believe the prices on that stuff, that was $36!

It's Jan., anybody gonna make a new thread?
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

January 1, 2012
5:56 PM

Post #8950569

NEW THREAD!!! THIS ONE IS CLOSED!!!!!!

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1235514/

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