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African Violets and Gesneriads: Suggestions for a Spring Round Robin

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
3:17 PM

Post #8923089

The subject of a Spring Round Robin came up in other threads and I thought it might be a good idea to make it into a thread of its own.

Okay, my suggestion would be to mix up the Round Robin a bit and maybe throw some Begonia leaves or Hoya cuttings in the mix.

Since most of us are growing other plants besides Gesneriads, maybe that would be a welcome addition.

I have a quite a few Begonias and Hoyas and would love to share. Particularly the Begonias need to be propagated anyway.

Olaf
lilypad22
(tish) near Atlanta, GA
(Zone 7b)

December 9, 2011
3:32 PM

Post #8923106

In past round robins, there is usually a few "other than gessies" plants thrown in. Some people in the trade don't have many gesneriads and others just have plants they like to grow and want to share them. So I think it would be fine to add what you want to the package.

tish
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
3:36 PM

Post #8923110

Thanks, Tish, for the heads up! :)

I have never before participated in a Round Robin and I thought that this thread might answer the questions that other "newbies" would have as well.

Olaf
carpathiangirl
Akron, OH
(Zone 5a)

December 9, 2011
6:31 PM

Post #8923279

Soooooo looking forward to the Spring RR, the only one I was lucky to participate in was so much fun! Thanks for starting the thread Olaf, lots of time to ask questions and discuss the whole thing.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
7:16 PM

Post #8923331

Exactly! I think that a Round Robin could use a little bit of thought and coordination. It's hard to be disappointed by any surprise package but it would be good to let everybody know how to package a cutting for safe shipping and probably a while in a box etc.

Also, I haven't quite understood the ground rules of a Round Robin yet. I think that I got it for the most part but I'm not quite sure.

So, if anybody could please explain the basics of the whole thing. That would be greatly appreciated! :)

Olaf
zozzl
Orlando, FL

December 9, 2011
7:57 PM

Post #8923366

I have particpated in a few and they are a lot of fun. I think the most important thing is to make sure the labels are attached to the plants and packed carefully. It is not hard to pack plants it just takes a bit of time.

It is a great way to get something new!

PatM.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2011
8:52 PM

Post #8923415

Exactly!

So, everybody make sure to have all the expert equipment at hand: zip-loc bags, labels, press'n'seal, plastic wrap, masking tape, a Sharpie, some paper towels... :)

BTW: I just put down a dozen or so leaves of Begonia 'Edge Of Sunset', a beautiful Australian hybrid...
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2011
9:02 AM

Post #8923838

This could be fun - I would be interested as well. Perhaps we could get things coordinated and then when the weather is a bit better, we could do the actual trade.

I have some gessies - but mostly NOIDs'. However, I can provide pictures of their blooms, so people would know what they are getting.



zozzl
Orlando, FL

December 10, 2011
10:59 AM

Post #8923958

The nice thing is we have plenty of time to get things started and growin! Yippee!! LOL! PatM.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2011
11:45 AM

Post #8924027

Exactly! I already got started on some Sinningias, Kohlerias and Begonias. This is going to be fun! :)
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

December 10, 2011
12:39 PM

Post #8924082

I'd suggest that in RR's it's good to trim rot off and rewet or cut stems so they may last longer en route to the next people. It's also polite to just take one of a cutting, if several are available, so others down the line may have some too. Don't take a much larger number of things than you have to contribute. I'd like to see the route set up so that the box travels the least distance from point to point. In other words, don't have the box traversing the country a few times and skipping people who would be at a closer delivery spot.
I like the idea of a large variety of offerings. We do all grow lots of different things besides AV's and Gessies. It's fun to branch out and try something that you'd have never considered.
Jamie
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2011
1:09 PM

Post #8924109

Excellent points, Jamie!

Sounds like a little clever planning can go a long way here.

The coolest thing is that a Round Robin is such an old fashioned, time honored tradition. I just love this kind of stuff! What an incredibly cool thing for both beginners and experienced growers to get their hands on new material and help spread some rare species and hybrids around and thereby help preserve them and keep them in circulation. The good, old Belisle hybrids could use a good dose of these efforts, for example!

Olaf
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 14, 2011
8:39 AM

Post #8929201

How are everybody's propagation efforts coming along? I catch myself putting down leaves on a daily basis. I'm almost out of prop box space now... LOL

Begonia sizemoreae, 'Dewdrop', 'Edge Of Sunset', 'Daisy', 'Erythrophylla Helix' and Primulina USBRG 98-083, 'Deco' and 'Stardust' are already rooting in the boxes...
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 14, 2011
3:20 PM

Post #8929712

I have lots of AV babies that have to be separated from momma leaf. I'll be sure to save them all for the RR. They should be a nice size by the spring. I'll have some epicia plantlets also. Hopefully my mini-micro sin. 'Bright Eyes x self will live long enough. We should have a great RR come spring.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 16, 2011
6:10 PM

Post #8932596

I started some episcia (including my ultra favorite Pink Smoke), a leaf or two from the AV's I like--Laser Celebration for sure and a couple more, Chrysothemis pulchella "Black Flamingo, Begonia "Springfield Queen", "Red Fred" and some others that I can't remember.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 17, 2011
7:04 AM

Post #8932940

If only I had the room for 'Red Fred'. It's one of my favorite Begonias...
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 17, 2011
10:15 AM

Post #8933172

I have plenty of room for begonia. I just have four that I got in a trade, and now I'm looking for more. LOL
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 17, 2011
10:22 AM

Post #8933190

Be careful what you wish for... Begonias are like Gremlins, just like Gessies... LOL
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 17, 2011
10:24 AM

Post #8933191

I know, I know. Addiction is swift. just need a room stretcher. LOL
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 17, 2011
10:28 AM

Post #8933203

Oh ! I'll take that room stretcher when you are finished with it!
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 17, 2011
10:42 AM

Post #8933218

Right! I'll put it right next to that inflatable greenhouse... LOL

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 17, 2011
1:12 PM

Post #8933325

[quote="bsimpson1972"]If only I had the room for 'Red Fred'. It's one of my favorite Begonias...[/quote] Fred is a pretty large statured guy :) Worth it, though--easy as an erythrophylla, and lovely dark red leaves.

imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 17, 2011
1:28 PM

Post #8933330

I havea the perfect spot for Fred. LOL
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 17, 2011
1:49 PM

Post #8933345

Oh, and 'Fred' looks real nice as a young plant as well. Maybe with some careful pruning and leaf removal... :)

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

December 17, 2011
2:05 PM

Post #8933356

Then I'll prune ole Fred a bit more, I'll have to start leaves, but they start really well. I'm going off to get more perlite!
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 18, 2012
12:40 PM

Post #8973089

How is everybody coming along with the preparation/propagation for the Spring RR?

I just potted up five large pots worth of Kohleria 'Strawberry Fields' rhizomes and one pot of Seemannia nematanthodes rhizomes, have some Gloxinella lindeniana, several other Kohlerias, Begonia 'Edge Of Sunset', Begonia 'Medora', Begonia 'Brazilian Lady', about twenty leaves of Saintpaulia 'Rob's Love Bite', a ton of Diastema vexans and a ton of different Sinningia seedlings coming up... OCD?!?! LOL

Olaf
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 18, 2012
3:44 PM

Post #8973317

I have named baby Saintpaulia growing. By spring they should be nice size plants to put in box. Will also have leaves availablle. I also have Epicia stolons rooting. I have about 30 sinningis Bright Eyes x self seedlings growing. They are so tiny, I have to figure a way to be able to ship them. Ideas are welcome. Cant wait for spring.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 18, 2012
4:43 PM

Post #8973375

Micro minis gro rapidly once they are past a certain stage. They'll be blooming size by the time of the RR and much easier to ship.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 19, 2012
6:56 AM

Post #8973928

I started some begonias--does anyone want a piece of an heirloom B. erythrophylla? A great easy plant for a begonia newbie, or a kid's first plant. This originally came from my friend's neighbor, who got it from her mother. I have Red Fred leaves starting, Springfield Queen, and a couple of others.

I put down leaves of Apache Bandit, Laser Celebration, and some other goodies. I'm all about the variegated leaves!

Does anyone want a Viola banksii? It's good soil cover in a MOIST pot or large terrarium. I am going to take some cuttings, my Ficus benghalensis pot runneth over. It loves the same wet soil as the ficus.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 19, 2012
7:06 AM

Post #8973946

Oh boy!!! The box will be full of surprises. What a great collection already. I just started with begonia. I got four cuttings of cane begonia in a trade not too long ago. I have them in pots and they are blooming their heads off. I can't wait for spring to put them in the front yard. I'm game for almost any type of plants, so for me, anything in the box is OK.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 19, 2012
7:17 AM

Post #8973955

I hopefully will have Asarina seedlings, too. I know they were reclassified as another genus and I don't remember it, but it's the same plant. They're a nice little vine that someone on the ORV forum got for me, and I just love it.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 19, 2012
8:27 AM

Post #8974028

B. 'Erythrophylla' is, indeed, a great, classic heirloom! I grow B. 'Erythrophylla Helix', which is basically the same but with spiraled leaves. Two leaves are already down for propagation and there may be a piece of rhizome come Spring. I would definitely be interested in a leaf of the standard form.

I just noticed that I'm answering three posts here... LOL

Viola banksii sounds great. I've seen this little cutie many years ago as a groundcover in a greenhouse and it was love at first sight... :)

I am so jealous of you people in the South who can use cane Begonias as landscaping plants - particularly the tall ones...

Us Northern dwellers are left with the "shorties", which are gorgeous plants as well. I think I should have some 'Tom Ment' and 'Fabulous Tom' cuttings by Spring.

I am not sure but I think that the genus Asarina got a taxonomic treatment and was split up into several genera. The "Climbing Snapdragons" that are commonly grown in gardens are now known as Maurandya (if it hasn't been renamed AGAIN...). The genus has been moved from Scrophulariaceae to Plantaginaceae, just like a ton of other genera. Everybody is a Plantain these days... LOL

Olaf
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 19, 2012
5:14 PM

Post #8974786

Anybody interested in "Silver Squill", Ledebouria socialis in the RR?

If so, just let me know and I'll start some... :)

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jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 19, 2012
5:50 PM

Post #8974821

I'd love to try those Olaf, but what are they? The picture is attractive.
Here's an Episcia that's about to get broken down and propagated for the RR and our clubs Mother Day sale.

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 19, 2012
6:12 PM

Post #8974851

That's a nice Episcia, Jamie! :)

Ledebouria socialis used to be known and grown as Scilla violacea. The plant used to be in the family Hyacinthaceae but is now in the expanded Asparagaceae.

It's an old classic among succulent collectors and goes in and out of fashion as a houseplant. The foliage is very attractive and so are the shiny, red bulbs that are above ground. The flowers are small and greenish yellow. Most people cut them off since they are not very attractive but I happen to leave them on the plant. It doesn't matter either way.

The plant will grow in pretty much any mix and thrives on neglect, little water and a bright East or West window.
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 19, 2012
6:45 PM

Post #8974871

Cool!
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

January 20, 2012
1:35 AM

Post #8975041

Gorgeous plants - I still have to look up some of the things posted above. I will be starting plants very shortly - I will have a list shortly...

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 20, 2012
6:43 AM

Post #8975208

Okay, after checking my rubbermaid tub that I use to keep seedlings and cuttings warm, I have some begonia convolvulacea--this is a fantastic, easy to grow begonia with gorgeous apple-green leaves. The blooms are meh, but the foliage is so shiny, full and lovely, I don't care. I started a couple of Viola banksii, Sinningia Amanda's Copper Penny, Sinningia Cindy Ella, and a slew of Episcias, incl. some Pink Smoke, Blue Water, Witches Kiss, Jim's Canadian Sunset, and Sarah Beth. Streptocarpus Geronimo, Dracula's Shadow, and some other ones with supercool blossoms. I also have tiny (now) Ficus religiosa seedlings, I definitely have too many, and it's another lovely plant. The tree under which Buddha received his enlightenment...I don't know that mine has left me more enlightened, but it was pretty enough that people wanted me to start some seedlings :)
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 20, 2012
8:06 AM

Post #8975313

SPRING--- Please come quickly. I can't wait for the RR. It is going to be a very interesting one. It's a great way for us to try different gessies and plants.
I have Ledebouria that I received in a trade a few years back. I have them in pots. This spring I'm going to make a little succulent garden in the front yard under a palm tree. I received a bunch of staplia from a very generous forum member that will go in the ground with the ledebour in the middle, and a few more little succulents within the grouping. It should do well in this particular spot. It gets morning sun. I may try a few sinningia, but leave those in their pot. Will have to watch them closely for watering, though. It will be trial and error.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2012
8:16 AM

Post #8975324

Try Sinningia macrostachya and leucotricha as they are very tough, can tolerate some drought and have been favorites among succulent collectors for a long time. :)

I can put some S. macrostachya cuttings into the RR. They root easily and grow pretty fast. After a year, the tuber is almost two inches across on my initial cutting.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 20, 2012
8:43 AM

Post #8975362

That would be great, Olaf. I'll look for them in the box. Thanks.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2012
9:23 AM

Post #8975404

You're welcome! No problem, Eileen!

Oh, btw: Do you have Stapelia gigantea, Haworthia coarctata and Aloe attenuata? All three are very tough and make nice clumps... :)
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 20, 2012
9:51 AM

Post #8975422

I have staplia giganta, but it's still too small to put in ground. I could put it there and leave it in the pot.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2012
10:02 AM

Post #8975432

That may be the smartest with Stapeliads anyway as they resent getting wet in Winter and you can literally watch them collapse from rot in front of your eyes... :(

bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:35 AM

Post #8977715

Here's a little progress report on my preparations for the RR:

Saintpaulia 'Cirelda', 'Ness' Dynomite', 'Lil' Runaround' and 'Rob's Tippy Toe'

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:36 AM

Post #8977717

Sinningia 'Mighty Mouse', 'Wood Nymph', concinna and 'Lil' Tiger'

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:36 AM

Post #8977719

Sinningia muscicola and 'Super Orange'

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:37 AM

Post #8977721

Sinningia 'Super Orange' and pusilla

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:38 AM

Post #8977723

Sinningia pusilla and muscicola

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:38 AM

Post #8977724

Sinningia 'Hircon' and pusilla

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:53 AM

Post #8977735

Saintpaulia 'Rob's Love Bite'. All those leaves from only one plant... LOL

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 22, 2012
11:53 AM

Post #8977737

Begonia 'Erythrophylla Helix'

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Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 22, 2012
7:11 PM

Post #8978310

I started some Chrysothemis "Black Flamingo" today, and some more Episcia. Ronnie, Alice's Outback, and others. Do you guys want me to send Episcia that need terrariums to grow well, or just mark them? Most of the E. lilacinas do better with a terrarium, and all of the variegated ones do too.
EarleG
Sanbornton, NH

January 23, 2012
5:46 AM

Post #8978615

Hi Olaf,

You seem to be getting everyone stirred up for a Spring Round Robin. Could you please explain to those of us who don't know, how this sort of thing works.

Thanks in advance.

Earle
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
7:24 AM

Post #8978791

Episcias are always popular and pretty much everyone wants to grow a pink one. :)

Alright, as for the RR, this would be my forst one as well and I'm not sure if I entirely understood the rules myself... LOL

Maybe, if someone who has participated in a RR before could explain it again to all us newbies?!? Pretty please... :)

Olaf
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 23, 2012
7:39 AM

Post #8978813

Nichole is our moderator and (I think) organizes them. I've only been in one on DavesGarden. I'll D-mail her & see if she can tell us all, or there are some others who are more experienced, like Lynn, Jan, Bonnie, Eileen, Tish...
Jamie

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 23, 2012
7:40 AM

Post #8978814

What I've seen before, is that we start off a box, and then it goes to everyone on the list, in order. You take as many plants as you add in, and mail it to the other person. I think for things like AV leaves or strep leaves, it's nice to take them out and trim them if they need it, or if you look at a plant and know it won't make it to the next person without dying, I will keep it and grow it out, just to give/trade it later. It's nice if people commit to re-send the box the day after you receive it, it just keeps the contents fresher.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
7:43 AM

Post #8978816

Thanks for the heads up! That's the way, I remembered it.

Makes perfect sense to clean up the cuttings and forward the box as soon as you can.

I have heard before that sometimes the box makes several rounds... :)

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 23, 2012
7:44 AM

Post #8978818

Sometimes it does :)
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
7:50 AM

Post #8978830

That's such a cool way to both get and distribute plants. Particularly the harder to find ones. Can't wait for warmer weather... LOL
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 23, 2012
7:51 AM

Post #8978831

That would be fun to make more rounds, then you can add people who were late to start. I also think it's important for people to just take one of a single plant so there's some to share with the others down the line, unless the plants are at their end longevity wise. For example, if there are 5 stolons of Episcia 'Genevieve', don't take all five to make you a nice full new pot. Also, try to replenish the box with about the same amount you took out. I don't want to be too picky here, but don't take 15 things out & only add 2 new things back before sending it on to the next person. Pack it well too- so there's not a mess. I've packed poorly in the past & learned this. I hate that I passed all those beauties on and the person got a jumbled box full of dirt! There are some good directions out there on how to do it correctly.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
7:59 AM

Post #8978840

Everybody stock up on Press'n'Seal and Zip Loc bags... LOL

You have a point there, Jamie!

Proper packaging probably is the most important thing!

Another thing worth pointing out is that I would recommend (rooted) cuttings over mature plants in pots where possible. For example, I would trim off any large crown off a Sinningia and wash the mix off the tuber before shipping it. This saves room, weight and therefore shipping costs. Also, it makes packaging much, much easier.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 23, 2012
8:12 AM

Post #8978862

I'll also add that leaves travel better than fragile, newly-rooted plantlets for AV and streps, and stolons for episcias.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
8:37 AM

Post #8978898

I agree!

If you have to send very small plantlets, it's a safer bet to leave them attached to the leaf and just ship the whole thing. Much better chance of survival than a plantlet all by itself.
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 23, 2012
9:40 AM

Post #8979045

Here's two prop boxes that I started last night.

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
9:44 AM

Post #8979055

Cool! I'm getting the feeling that we'll wind up sending two or three boxes around... LOL
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 23, 2012
11:07 AM

Post #8979133

Well, I'm selling stuff for our club sale too & other forums may have a RR. I don't propagate every leaf. There is usually a large mixing bowl full of leaves to throw away when I finish grooming. Compost. The most recent AVSA magazine had a funny article about 'hoarding'.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 23, 2012
11:48 AM

Post #8979187

Here are the instructions from a RR that I participated in last fall. It was a great RR. It moved very quickly because no one took longer than a day to pass on to next person.


Here's the rules:

1. I need you full name, address, email address, and telephone number optional. I will post a complete list of those participating. We may end up with a East and West box, depending on the number of participants.
2. If you will be on vacation during the months of March or April (maybe May) but still wish to participate, please state what dates you will be gone and you will be placed on the list accordingly.
3. You need to send me a message that you received the box and a message to the next person on the list, letting them know when the box is going out to them so they can expect it.
4. I think it would be fun if each post what they kept out of the box. You don't have to list what you put in, just what you take out, keep the box contents quiet for surprise.
5. Please discard any dying, mush, or questionable leaves and replace if you can.
6. No restrictions...can be leaves, or other gessies, or even cuttings from a house plant (but try to keep this to a minimum). The fun part is "shopping" through the box, as you never know what will be in it, however, must be plant material.
7. A list will be included in the box, please cross out your name and the next in line will be sent the box, with myself receiving the box back at the end of the round. Make sure the list stays with the box. The box must be sent Priority Mail. (less than 8.00 depending upon where in the US its going). This will be the big priority mail box.
8. We just need to remember that if you are going to participate, the box has to be out in a real timely fashion to keep everything moving along and keep the leaves fresh.
EarleG
Sanbornton, NH

January 23, 2012
12:56 PM

Post #8979324

Thanks to all. I have a clear picture now. All I have to do is decide to participate. I spent a good part of last week potting up young AV plants with more to come this week. Leaves can be harvested most any time. The mystery of it makes it sound like fun and worth the Priority Mail postage.

Earle
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
1:27 PM

Post #8979388

Thanks for explaining the rules, Eileen! Makes perfect sense! :)

Jamie, we're all hoarders, aren't we? LOL

Earle, I agree with you! A boat load of plants for the price of flat rate shipping? Unbeatable!

Olaf

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 23, 2012
1:44 PM

Post #8979408

I'm a cutting hoarder as well, but I do give them away at work.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
2:29 PM

Post #8979481

I have learned over the years to part with the less than desirable cuttings and only keep the good ones, except in case of emergency...

For example, I just stuffed a whole garbage bag full of Kohlerias because they wouldn't have made good cuttings.

I rather wait for Spring in cases like this and take cuttings from fresh, new shoots full of vigor.
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 23, 2012
6:38 PM

Post #8979882

Here's what I heard from Nichole:

A Round Robin is basically this: One person (I'd be willing) starts a box . . . since this is the AV & G forum, the RR could have AV's, streps, sinn., chirita's, etc. - both plants and/or leaves. So, person 1 would start the box with - for example - 15 baggies of leaves and 6 starter plants. Person 1 would priority mail the box to person 2. Person 2 would take what they wanted out of the box, and replace the items taken with like items (leaves for leaves, etc. - or could be 5 leaves for 1 plant - details could be worked out). Person 2 would then priority mail the box to person 3, and so on, and so on, etc. The last person to get the box would priority mail it back to Person 1.
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 23, 2012
6:39 PM

Post #8979884

and this too:

the person who sends the initial box (again, I'd be willing), will also need to have a list of each participants mailing addresses (printing the address labels in advance is great). Depending on the number of participants, it may be feasible to have 2 separate round robins going at once . . . would need a second person to volunteer to start the 2nd box .


Now if it were just Spring already...
aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

January 23, 2012
9:07 PM

Post #8980030

What Nichole told you is right, Jamie. Olaf posted an interest thread when I brought up the idea of having one in the spring so I assumed he was going to take it over. The only thing I would add to what info Nichole gave you is the interest/sign up needs to be posted right before the RR starts and what is in the box should be a surprise for the receiver. It is so much fun to get a box not knowing what's inside. If you all know what everyone is growing for the RR, then you know what's in the box before you open it. Just a thought but you all can do it however you wish to. It is always fun to read the posts of what each person finds in the box. Some might even post pics . You get all excited seeing what someone who was # 9 on the list got out of the box knowing you are #11. You just can't wait for your turn. However ya'll decide to do it, have fun!

Connie
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2012
11:01 AM

Post #8980646

Hey Connie!

Well, when I started this thread, it was just suppost to be a bit of a brain storm in order to coordinate the RR a little better.

I didn't intend to take over the RR in no way but certainly would if prompted to.

You definitely have a point regarding the surprise factor. However, I think that a little bit of planning and coordination can help make things run a little smoother.

In any regard, I can't wait for this show to get on the road and hope for plenty of participants! :)

Olaf
dispatcher1
Seymour, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 25, 2012
12:27 PM

Post #8981943

I don't know how I missed this thread. I never pass up a chance to participate in a RR. It is very economical and fun! Like many of you, my only outlet for gessies is online, and when the postage is added, they can become expensive quickly. Even if a person only takes three or four items, it is well worth the cost of forwarding the box.

I have some cuttings started and will start some more now that I found this thread.
One suggestion that worked well on another forum, was to send a "North" box and a "South" box( According to participants addresses) and they traveled very quickly and the items stayed fresh. The starter could then switch the routes and everyone could get the benefit of the second box.

I would be interested in terrarium plants if they are marked accordingly. Happy growing all. Lou
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 25, 2012
2:18 PM

Post #8982108

I have the suspicion that we'll wind up sending two boxes anyway... LOL
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

January 25, 2012
5:31 PM

Post #8982319

[quote]Here's a little progress report on my preparations for the RR:

Saintpaulia 'Cirelda', 'Ness' Dynomite', 'Lil' Runaround' and 'Rob's Tippy Toe'[/quote]

Um, put me on the list for a Rob's Tippy Toe, please!


Man, just a few weeks off DG, and I had so much catching up to do!

Connie is right . . . the way we've done the round robins before, is you can post what you take out of the box, but not post what you put in the box . . .

Nichole
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

January 25, 2012
5:35 PM

Post #8982327

It should be a great one!
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 25, 2012
5:35 PM

Post #8982328

No problem, Nichole! There's a 'Lil' Runaround' with your name on it!

Anyhow, what ultimately will wind up in the box is and will always be a secret... ;)

Olaf
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

January 25, 2012
5:50 PM

Post #8982353

Ok, so when do you usually start thawing out where each of you are located? I think it would be great if we can time this to a point when maybe extra insulation would serve better than a heat pack (insulation weighs less) . . .

What I've decided to do when I separate my babies from the mama leaves is to plant them all in a perlite/vermiculite mix. This was mainly for when I take them to the club sale in May, that all the buyer would have to do is rinse off the excess and put in their own mix. (I usually sell small starter plants - don't have room for full grown sales plants!).

I think the perlite/vermiculite mix weighs less also, so that is what I will do for my round robin contributions.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 25, 2012
6:08 PM

Post #8982377

Agreed! Heat packs have a tendency to produce "steamed Gessies" anyway... Not a big fan of these... LOL

Perlite/Vermiculite or Sphaghnum are usually the most effective medium for cuttings anyway and they save weight since only a little bit will cling to the roots.
carpathiangirl
Akron, OH
(Zone 5a)

January 27, 2012
7:00 PM

Post #8984839

Things are getting serious here lol. Can't wait too. Seems like OH and IL are the coldest points of the route and by the end of April it could be safe enough to mail plants. Or the beginning of May for sure.

I've been busy trimming too and ended up with a few containers. Here is Codonatanthus:

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carpathiangirl
Akron, OH
(Zone 5a)

January 27, 2012
7:06 PM

Post #8984843

Episcia lilacina

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carpathiangirl
Akron, OH
(Zone 5a)

January 27, 2012
7:08 PM

Post #8984844

AV leaves which will remain a secret for now

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bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2012
9:40 PM

Post #8984950

'tis the season... LOL

Looking good!!!
zozzl
Orlando, FL

January 30, 2012
8:39 AM

Post #8987948

This sounds like so much fun! Gives me an excuse to buy more at our show next month:)

I would like to add to the above instructions for shipping to carefully attach a label or identification to each plant. It is very frustrating to get plants mixed up because they were not labeled properly. You can wrap and tape a plant in newspaper and attack masking tape to the outside with the name written on it or use labels if you have them.

I don't mean to sound cranky but that is one thing that bugs me.

Pat M.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 30, 2012
9:31 AM

Post #8988044

True! Nothing is more frustrating than a bunch of plants with mixed up labels... Even if the plant isn't a named variety, it helps to attach a label like "Sinningia speciosa, red and white flowers".

Also, it's a good idea to bag and label each cutting separately and then put the little bags into another, larger bag like a one or two gallon zip lock. This is an additional layer of dehydration protection.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 30, 2012
9:45 AM

Post #8988062

I *try* to put photos on the bag stickers.
zozzl
Orlando, FL

January 30, 2012
10:08 AM

Post #8988101

Oh, does everyone know that you can mail from home? If you go to the USPS online site, you just measure the box and weigh it and print out the priority mail postage on your printer. I leave a note note in the mailbox (folded so it stands up) that tells the postman I have a package for pickup and he comes up to the door and I give it to him. This would only work if you are going to be home but it does save a trip. It would NOT be good to leave the box on the doorstep for him in this instance because of weather or the chance that it would be stolen.

Pat M.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 30, 2012
11:55 AM

Post #8988243

Also, if you go to USPS click and ship, you get a discount. It's not much, but still cheaper than going to P,O. I send all my packages that way.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 30, 2012
11:56 AM

Post #8988245

I send all of mine that way as well. The last round robin that I did used a large FRB, which made things super easy. No weighing, etc.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 7, 2012
7:34 AM

Post #8997812

Took a bunch of episcia cuttings this weekend...
dispatcher1
Seymour, IN
(Zone 5b)

February 7, 2012
11:55 AM

Post #8998076

I'M GETTING ANXIOUS!!!!
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 7, 2012
1:26 PM

Post #8998170

Celene, what is a FRB? If possible I try to use the Regional boxex. There's A, B, and now a new one, C. Some time it's cheaper that the One price boxes, which go by size.
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

February 7, 2012
5:37 PM

Post #8998405

Eileen, I think that is Flat Rate Box . . .

Maybe, if there is enough interest, we could do instead of one large RR, we could do 1 or 2 regional ones instead . . . I will check out the postage prices, etc . . .
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 9, 2012
8:29 AM

Post #9000305

Duh!! I don't know where my mind was. When it comes to using the regional boxes, you have to check by weight (each size has a limit) and where ilt's going. I was sending my granddaughter a birthday gift, and found it was cheaper using a regular priority box (which are hard to come by) at the PO. They would prefer you to use the flat rate ones. I order a few sizes of the med and lg boxes on line. It all depends on where it's going and the weight. Got to save $$$ so we have more to spend on gessies. LOL
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

February 9, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9000514

One of my daughters knocked down an Alsobia with a soccer ball and broke off lots of stolons. They are all down to root now for the RR! I'm not telling which variety it is.
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

February 9, 2012
5:25 PM

Post #9000964

I also ordered a shipment of the regular medium box priority mail boxes (not the flat rate ones) . . . but, I still have a larger box that I got my order from Travis Violets over a year ago . . . still has the insulation inside, etc . . . I think between all of us, we will be covered as far as boxes go!

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 9, 2012
7:09 PM

Post #9001144

I have tons of FRB's and regular priority mail boxes, I regularly ship for my business. I can save a smallish styro cooler if we order vaccines at work--it has about 2-3" of styro in the sides, the container is probably oh...16" square. They're used to ship refrigerated drugs or biologicals.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

February 10, 2012
6:28 AM

Post #9001550

Okay, my two cents on flat rate boxes: I have found that if you ship more than just a handful of cuttings or something else small and light, you may have a chance to save with regular priority boxes.

However, I used a regular priority box once to ship maybe half a dozen plants in solo cups and another bag full of cuttings. I always use newspaper for padding and that's what I did then.

The same flat rate box would have cost me something like five bucks, the regular priority box cost me almost 15!

The absolute advantage of flat rate boxes is that the charges are neither weight nor distance dependent.

Olaf
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

February 10, 2012
3:21 PM

Post #9002170

In most cases you will find the large #7 post office box holds more and ships cheaper than the the flat rate boxes.

Lynn
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

February 10, 2012
4:54 PM

Post #9002263

That's what I've got .. . the #7's . . .
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

February 10, 2012
5:00 PM

Post #9002267

You know what? You are all absolutely right! The large flat rate box went up to over fifteen bucks! Wow! They sure aren't as cheap as they used to be...
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

February 10, 2012
9:12 PM

Post #9002450

No,they aren't cheap anymore,unless you are shipping something heavy.You can ship something like 70 pounds for the same price as 2 or 3 pounds.

goldhillal

goldhillal
(Crystal) Waverly, AL

February 12, 2012
5:49 AM

Post #9003751

This sounds interesting, But I have some questions.
What is NOID?
What is ORV ? off road vehicle?

Do you have to send the cultivar name, or is a description (say bloom color) adequate?

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 12, 2012
6:16 AM

Post #9003784

If they're named, the cultivar name is always good.

NOID = no ID, not a named plant or an unknown of some kind
ORV = Ohio River Valley

goldhillal

goldhillal
(Crystal) Waverly, AL

February 12, 2012
5:48 PM

Post #9004494

Thanks Celene
I like Gesneriads, but am only mildly interested in AV. I have a couple different Episcias, and one lonesome Strep. I love streps, but have a hard time with the, They seem to take forever from leaf cuttings, and are bad to get mealy bugs for me. I have one or two miniature siningias. It sounds like fun. I want to join up.
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

February 17, 2012
4:42 PM

Post #9010425

Hi goldhillal,
I'm from Montgomery, Al. Streps don't do so great for me because of the heat. I bought 15 small ones in solo cups last Spring and have 5 survivors! They are the ones that could take the heat this summer. I grow lots of gessies. Have you ever been to the meeting in Birmingham?

goldhillal

goldhillal
(Crystal) Waverly, AL

February 17, 2012
7:36 PM

Post #9010579

No, never been to a meeting.
It's nice to see someone from closer around in Alabama.
I keep my streps in the air conditioning instead of taking them outside in summer. you are right, they don't do well with the heat. but they still seem to go downhill in summer. Bloom in the spring and then slide downhill. Maybe they just ca't get enough light. And the greenhouse window over the sink may be too hot?
Maybe I should just give up, but I do like them a lot.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 18, 2012
6:37 AM

Post #9010884

I haven't had much luck with streps, so I've avoided them. Hopefully there will be some leaves in the RR and I'll be able to try again. Spring is getting closer. WooHoo!!!
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2012
7:48 AM

Post #9010946

Streps and heat are not very compatible. Some of the hybrids can take Summer heat much better than others but generally, Summer is the biggest challenge. What I do is slightly overpot them and keep them evenly moist. The evaporating water cools the roots down a little. With this method, I was able to get my handful of Streps through triple digit temperatures here in Chicago...
zozzl
Orlando, FL

February 19, 2012
10:31 AM

Post #9012055

My streps had never done well, but I realized I had closed the air conditioning vent mostly in the growing room and when I opened it they perked up. They really do like it cool it seems. I think they would be happier growing on a windowsill in air conditioning than outside.

Pat

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 19, 2012
5:55 PM

Post #9012510

Episcias like high humidity and warmth just fine :)
zozzl
Orlando, FL

February 22, 2012
6:52 AM

Post #9015651

I thought you all would like to see a plant that I grew from a leaf I received in the last round robin I participated in on this forum in May 2010. Some kind soul put in a leaf of 'Brass Band' which is a vintage 1970 african violet. It has grown up to be a gorgeous plant and it will be shown March 2 in my local society show.

Hope you like it!

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goldhillal

goldhillal
(Crystal) Waverly, AL

February 22, 2012
6:38 PM

Post #9016514

Wow! zozzl that is beautiful!
Years ago I had an AV as a gift called double black cherry. The plant was huge-12 in across at least. I have never seen it since. But the other day in Lowe's I did see one I had long ago. It was a double blue with a white (picotee?) edge on the blossom. I wanted it, but I beat myself off it thinking about what I might get in this RR.
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

February 23, 2012
10:24 AM

Post #9017162

It's a beauty Pat!
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 23, 2012
12:24 PM

Post #9017269

Pat, that is a beauty. I have a leaf too, from that RR. Mine still has not bloomed. I'm patiently waiting. After seeing yours, I getting more 'antsy' to see it bloom.
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

February 23, 2012
12:44 PM

Post #9017291

This is ONE BOLD vintage Violet! I'm always thrilled that at least some of them have been given a chance to live on! :)

This message was edited Feb 23, 2012 4:59 PM
jamiew
Montgomery, AL

February 23, 2012
12:53 PM

Post #9017298

I love the vintage violets. I'd like to see Brass Band at a show, in person.
zozzl
Orlando, FL

February 23, 2012
4:54 PM

Post #9017577

Thank you guys! It is one of my favorites!

Pat
bsimpson1972
Chicago, IL
(Zone 6a)

February 23, 2012
5:09 PM

Post #9017595

When I saw a perfectly grown 'Tommie Lou' at a show, that's when my interest in vintage Violets started to develop. Not that I have any room for a standard but looking at those vintage beauties just warms my heart and that why I am so grateful that there are some people who still are growing some of them!

It's just like with all other heirloom plants: A LOT of them are worth saving for future generations!

Olaf
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

March 20, 2012
6:55 AM

Post #9049954

Are we getting closer to haveing a round robin? the weather should be warming up in most of the country by now. At least I hope so. I'm so in need of a gessie fix.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 20, 2012
7:24 AM

Post #9049982

It's over 70 here!
lbrabec
(Lynn) Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

March 20, 2012
12:44 PM

Post #9050330

We had mid 80's a few days in a row.
aspenjocop
Northeast, MO
(Zone 5b)

March 20, 2012
3:55 PM

Post #9050526

We have been doing a little gardening. Making sure it's just cold crops right now...just in case lol.

Connie
Syrumani
Whitsett, NC
(Zone 8a)

March 20, 2012
4:09 PM

Post #9050542

It is just about time, I'd think . . .
meag848
Kittrell, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 21, 2012
1:08 AM

Post #9050992

Yah!!

goldhillal

goldhillal
(Crystal) Waverly, AL

March 21, 2012
4:59 AM

Post #9051081

How many items will need to be putin/taken from bok. What are the guidelines. I never participated in one before.
imadigger
Palm Bay, FL
(Zone 9b)

March 21, 2012
8:37 AM

Post #9051340

usually it's how many you take out, you replace with same amount. This way the box is always full.
dispatcher1
Seymour, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 21, 2012
2:03 PM

Post #9051689

I'm getting anxious! 85 degrees in March! What a blessing this month has been weatherwise.

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