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    Communities > Forums > Plant Identification
    Forum: Plant IdentificationReplies: 15, Views: 136
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    LadyAshleyR
    Oakland, MD

    December 9, 2011 3:26 PM

    Post #8923100

    going through photography.
    would add these to plant files if i knew which species they were.

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    LadyAshleyR
    Oakland, MD

    December 9, 2011 3:27 PM

    Post #8923102

    another pic

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    pixie62560

    pixie62560
    South China, ME (Zone 5a)

    December 10, 2011 1:37 AM

    Post #8923501

    Looks like Sweet Wakerobin, Vasey's Trillium
    http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/55541/
    LadyAshleyR
    Oakland, MD

    December 10, 2011 5:22 AM

    Post #8923606

    It does look that way. Is there a particular way to tell it from similar species?
    Malus2006
    Coon Rapids, MN (Zone 4a)

    December 10, 2011 9:50 AM

    Post #8923881

    What she mean is what the different between this and Trillium erectum - the two look way too similiar and there might be misidentified pictures between the two. The only thing I know of is that Trillium erectum are widespreadly sold compare to Vasey's Trillium.


    With other purple trillium, they are either rare in cultivation at least for Eastern US since there's so many different native species to choose from along with a few Asian ones, have mottling foliage, or have upright flowers with very narrow petals that are not trinaglular.

    That way we divide trillium in two groups - one with broad triangular petals and another with petals that are strongly vertical and very narrow.
    altagardener
    Calgary, AB (Zone 3b)

    December 10, 2011 9:54 AM

    Post #8923889

    Did you photograph it in the wild in Maryland?
    The red-flowered ones that occur naturally (or as introduced species) in Maryland are T. erectum, and T. cuneatum, which it does not resemble.

    The way one distinguishes species is by looking up the taxonomic differences, such as in the keys below:
    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=1...
    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=2...


    Here also is the description for T. vaseyi:
    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=2...

    Since your plant lacks the broad, overlapping and recurved petals of T. vaseyi, I'd guess it's T. erectum but I'm sure someone who is more familiar with trilliums can say if that's right or not.

    Additionally, T. vaseyi is not noted as occurring in Maryland, either native or introduced (see USDA Plants map below), and also, the species description says the flowers tend to be suspended beneath the bracts (although the plants shown in the USDA Plants photos seem to vary in that respect):
    http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=TRVA2&photoID=trv...



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    LadyAshleyR
    Oakland, MD

    December 10, 2011 9:56 AM

    Post #8923891

    I should have noted that this was a wildflower.
    Definitely trillium erectum then =3
    that takes care of that!
    thanks!
    altagardener
    Calgary, AB (Zone 3b)

    December 10, 2011 10:50 AM

    Post #8923938

    pixie62560, I noticed that many of the photos posted under T. vaseyi are yours, and said to be from the wild in Maine. Since T. vaseyi doesn't occur in Maine, either naturally or introduced, would you consider asking the administrators to move your photos to T. erectum, which is the likely species you are seeing? I noted that there was a comment made to this effect made about your photos in PlantFiles, as well. If you look at your photos in comparison to the others posted under this species, I think you will note the differences.
    Keeping PlantFiles as accurate as possible makes it a much more useful resource. Thanks very much for your consideration.

    This message was edited Dec 10, 2011 11:52 AM
    Malus2006
    Coon Rapids, MN (Zone 4a)

    December 10, 2011 7:01 PM

    Post #8924471

    Ty altagardener

    On additional checking one of Kim's Photo is not T. vaseyi either - its the red one - its a small petal variety of Trillium erectum - there are two variety of Trillium erectum - one have small petals and one have longer petals so can cause a bit of confusion in addition to the white forms.

    This message was edited Dec 10, 2011 9:10 PM
    1lisac
    Liberty Hill, TX (Zone 8a)

    December 10, 2011 10:21 PM

    Post #8924617

    Wow, thats pretty I wonder if it would grow here?

    pixie62560

    pixie62560
    South China, ME (Zone 5a)

    December 11, 2011 5:16 AM

    Post #8924716

    Alta, thank you for pointing that out, didn't even notice! :o
    LadyAshleyR
    Oakland, MD

    December 11, 2011 5:28 AM

    Post #8924725

    Here's the natural range for the plant. It might grow where you are, you could always try XD
    http://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/trillium_...

    And here's the vaseyii range map, since its the more southerly trillium.
    http://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/trillium_...

    in case you want to give it a go.
    or someone can give you personal experience hahah!

    1lisac
    Liberty Hill, TX (Zone 8a)

    December 11, 2011 11:19 AM

    Post #8925174

    Thanks, it should grow here. Its worth a try.
    Tiffit65
    Croydon, NH

    May 5, 2012 4:00 PM

    Post #9111784

    Hello, i live in New Hampshire, and have(or had), a beautiful cluster of what i've always called Stinking-Benjamin's, in my back field next to my old apple tree. I was going to plant other native flowers around that tree but, someone picked all the flowers off!, i was wondering if anyone knew if these beautiful, but stinky flowers where on any endangered list, and if you pick the flowers, will they flower again next spring.

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    gregr18
    Bridgewater, MA (Zone 6b)

    May 5, 2012 4:45 PM

    Post #9111840

    They aren't endangered and they will flower next spring. Whoever picked the flowers is in for a surprise if he or she thought it would make a nice cut flower.
    Tiffit65
    Croydon, NH

    May 29, 2012 7:11 AM

    Post #9142979

    Thanks Gregr18, so happy to know they WILL come back next year!

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