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KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2012
10:55 AM

Post #8989484

*sigh*

I step outside to get the mail this afternoon and the thermostat reads 52 degrees. It isn't fair! It's only the very end of January and we have at least a couple more months of chilly weather to deal with. I guess I'll start some seeds to tide me over.
frahnzone5
Bensenville, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 31, 2012
4:12 PM

Post #8989856

My early spring bulbs are totally confused. The iris, crocus & snow drops usually start peeking their green heads up at the end of February but with our unseasonably warm winter they are starting to come up now. If we get an artic snap (a highly likely scenario) they will be toast!
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2012
12:10 AM

Post #8990313

I still have a fair bit of snow cover in my east-facing front yard, so none of my bulbs (daffs and tulips) have given any consideration to emerging yet, for which I'm grateful!

As I understand it, bulbs may not flower as well if the buds get nipped by a cold snap, but at least the cold shouldn't effect the health of the bulb over the long term. Still, it's always disappointing to end up seeing fewer flowers. Let's hope the weather stays...reasonable and seasonable.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2012
7:24 AM

Post #8990562

Hi Kaylyred. Yep 53 yesterday by 2pm and 80 in my sun room. Now its grey and cloudy and in the upper 30's with only a high of 44. I sure hope Mother Nature knows what she is doing.

My beds have pretty much snow cover yet but with the next 3 days in the 40's and the weekend upper 30's and rain, the snow will pretty much be gone. Haven't seen any signs of bulbs coming up but then again I haven't been really looking either. I still have the leaf cover on most.

But it is only 6 weeks ad 6 days till Spring, so have been doing seed orders and plant orders. Got lights all set up now just need to get busy and actually start my seeds. I can wait a couple weeks for that though.

Have a pkg of Echinacea and Rudbeckia and one other that I could be wintering sowing. They need that cold treatment have even done that yet. Can you say Lazy? this year?
Artwestallis
Milwaukee, WI

February 1, 2012
8:54 AM

Post #8990678

very little snow left here at all good thing I bought gas for the snow blower this year lol to bad I cant turn it into a tiller for spring so I can use it
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 1, 2012
10:11 AM

Post #8990771

Almost all of the snow gone here although gray and cloudy today. Phenomenal that overnight temps are above freezing. We've used the snow blower only once so far and I've shoveled twice. Pruned Clematis yesterday just to be outside.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2012
10:42 AM

Post #8990797

My husband bought a new snow blower back in October. He's used it maybe twice now? My bil is not happy as he supplements his income with snow plowing and my other bil, two brothers and a son are not happy as they love to snowmobile. Son called me yesterday morning yelling at me for the warmer temperatures. I do not like Wisconsin winters but this is where I got plunked by in the 60's and this is what I am used to.

We'll get our winter yet. Just hope it isn't in April or heaven forbid in May like it did in 1989.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 1, 2012
3:33 PM

Post #8991120

Shhhhhh!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 1, 2012
6:33 PM

Post #8991373

Yeah right We need maybe a couple days with new snow, nothing to be concerned with and then maybe a few days of average temps so that when spring actually comes and then April we have an absolutely lovely spring and summer... I know wishes don't always come true.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
6:58 AM

Post #8991867

Global warming? When I first moved to Wisconsin, there were nights of 34 below, 3 week stretches in Jan when it never got above freezing. I remember 3 nights in a row of minus 28. I suppose I thougth all that was normal. Now? Not even a minus temp so far this winter. If this keeps up, land and house prices will go up as people change their minds about living around here. Old saying was: good thing the weather is so poor here or everyone would want to live here.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 2, 2012
7:06 AM

Post #8991884

I think I don't mind the cold so much as I do the lack of sun. All of the brown, taupe and gray gets to me after a couple of months.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
8:44 AM

Post #8992040

SAD but true.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
8:53 AM

Post #8992054

You know you're right about the global warming though. The USDA Hardiness Zone map was updated just recently sending me from 5a to 5b. Not that big of a change considering but I know a few people down Tennessee way where they jumped a whole zone. http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/InteractiveMap.aspx#// Check it out with your zip codes, you may be pleasantly surprise also.

Wonder if the rodent saw he shadow lol
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
11:50 AM

Post #8992238

Hey, I went from 4B to 5A. I need to run outside and tell all the plants.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 2, 2012
12:57 PM

Post #8992318

DD in MI is now a 6B. She was a 7A south of Nashville, TN. Those colors are kinda hard to differentiate (or my eyes are just plain old).
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
1:35 PM

Post #8992372

I agree, I cannot look at the chart/legend and find the right answer, but it says: click on your map and the answer will appear. It is magic.

This message was edited Feb 2, 2012 3:37 PM

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
2:02 PM

Post #8992414

Isn't that AWESOME
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
4:01 PM

Post #8992521

Still 5a here as far as zones go. Only difference is that I used to be on the fringe of 5a, and now I'm comfortably in 5a. I don't think my plants care one way or another.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 2, 2012
5:19 PM

Post #8992608

Do you mean they have a mind of their own and do not listen to the USDA?

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2012
6:08 AM

Post #8993066

Oh I was so wrong. It is 7 weeks till Spring not 6. Its the cloudy days fault. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2012
10:45 AM

Post #8993333

gasrocks - Yep, that's it exactly. ;)
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 7, 2012
3:22 PM

Post #8998277

I heard a robin this past weekend. A robin in February! What the heck could they be eating? The ground is still frozen. I worry about the little guys.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 8, 2012
6:16 AM

Post #8998906

Robins will switch from bugs to berries and such. There are some Robins that spend the winter here.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 8, 2012
9:51 AM

Post #8999187

Sp true. I am going out and prune a Maple tree that is bad need of it. Its that nice out today...
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 8, 2012
10:42 AM

Post #8999246

Really, gasrocks? I've never seen (or heard, in this case) one this early in the year. I did figure they must have an alternate food source, though. Learn something new every day!
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 15, 2012
5:46 AM

Post #9007353

On the subject of the recent changes in the zone map here, there was a story on NPR(?) yesteday about that. Not an indication of globabl warming they insisted. USDA has just used better computers and more data to refine their measurments. Things like taking lakes into the equation, things they did not do before. That is the reason for the changes, just better data.
cactusloverlady
Menasha, WI

February 15, 2012
9:49 AM

Post #9007664

KaylyRed, Yes there some robins that stay here all year 'round. They will eat berries left on trees and shrubs. You can also purchase mealy worms and put them in your bird feeder. Those birds are ones from farther north, migrate down here to a food source and stay. My son was out walking last week and heard several robins.The birds are territorial and the first one back gets the best spot for breeding. That's what it's all about. cll
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 19, 2012
9:10 AM

Post #9012008

Boy, I gonna have to put flea/tick collars on my cats - in FEB.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 19, 2012
10:07 AM

Post #9012043

Crocus and snowdrop foliage popping up here. Went to MI for a couple of days where it was cold and blustery compared to here. Haven't been outside yet to check on daffodil foliage yet. Seed-starting this week for a couple of herbs and the slow-growing Browallia so I'm happy.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 19, 2012
12:24 PM

Post #9012168

I walked around the yard today/. My lilacs, my hydrangeas, and my mock orange all started budding out. Last night into this morning we had a hard frost. When I woke up I thought it snowed but it was frost. My Weeping Cherry started as well. Does this mean no flowers for me this year on the weeping cherry and lilacs? I will be really p%&^$I^J if that happens. Believe me.
duck_toller
Middleton, WI
(Zone 4b)

February 20, 2012
6:24 AM

Post #9012978

Interesting article http://tinyurl.com/6vhohtx

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 20, 2012
6:27 AM

Post #9012983

yes very interesting thank you for sharing that. I feel a tad bit better about my shrubs now. Haven't seen anything of tulips or daffs but then again all my beds are covered in leaves since about Nov. So they should maybe be okay...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 20, 2012
6:38 AM

Post #9013001

It's frosty here this morning and in the 20's. That should remind the bulbs that it's still winter. We are supposed to get rain this week though and I hope that won't get the bulbs pushing through again. Hmm - might be able to bring in forsythia a little earlier to force into bloom.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 20, 2012
7:46 AM

Post #9013121

Like minds think alike. I was just staring out the back window thinking hmmm maybe I'll go out and get some forsythia to force. Then looked at the thermometer on the tree and changed my mind. Maybe later when it gets to 40 I'll go out back and snag a couple.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 20, 2012
8:26 AM

Post #9013190

I agree with you there. It's a bit breezy here which makes it feel even colder. Guess I'll have to occupy myself this morning with house chores.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 8, 2012
7:08 AM

Post #9034452

Finally got to work outdoors yesterday uncovering emerging bulbs from their blanket of fall leaves. While it was waaay too windy to do a proper leaf and branch cleanup, I did get a lot cleared. Snowdrops, crocus and hellebores are blooming. Seems like the daffodils emerged 2 inches more overnight.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 8, 2012
8:03 AM

Post #9034521

Haven't even attempted it yet, Yesterday was warm 64 but just way too windy. Got down in the lower 30's last night and even with the sun out it is only 37 now. Maybe tomorrow I can get out there and then over the weekend.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 8, 2012
9:36 AM

Post #9034646

It was windy yesterday but I used it to my advantage to form piles of leaves to be carted away and hopefully shredded. Most of them blew along the fence so I didn't have to chase them all over the yard. It is supposed to get chilly here tonight which should slow down the bulbs a bit but I'll have to bring in some pots that I've been setting outside. I'm indoors for the next couple of days anyway but it should be nice starting Sunday when I've recovered from my first outdoor physical labor efforts. :)
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 8, 2012
3:37 PM

Post #9035016

I'm seeing that it's supposed to be sunny and in the 60s Tuesday next week, if the pattern holds. I'm thinking that'll probably be my day to get out and do some cleaning up. Although I've had the flu, and the cough seems to be the last thing to go away. I hope I have the energy for it by next week.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 8, 2012
5:17 PM

Post #9035115

Sorry to hear that you've been sick. So much going around currently. Hope you do feel better for next week's nice weather.
Artwestallis
Milwaukee, WI

March 13, 2012
9:04 AM

Post #9041004

great weather here hope to get out and do some clean up

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 13, 2012
9:26 AM

Post #9041026

Here too. I cleaned out 5 beds over the weekend. In between, loads of laundry I am hanging I am weeding one that is getting over grown with grass. Its the bed I acquired last summer when they put the walks in out back. They took what they dug up for the sidewalks into the center of it. Grass and all. Guess round-upping the thing didn't take care of ALL the grass. Oh well, it is giving me a work out.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 13, 2012
2:47 PM

Post #9041450

Although the daffodils haven't opened yet, they will by the end of the week. Meanwhile, I've got hellebores, crocus, snowdrops blooming with flower buds emerging on the Hepatica and Epimediums. I did start removing fall leaves last week but hauled away some more all afternoon. Hoping to work outside all day tomorrow and that should get the beds in the backyard done. Then I'll have to tackle the wild lower garden which generally takes a full week. Ugh. My Indian hawthorn has flower buds and should open up by the end of the week a well. Definitely tee shirt weather but I didn't break a sweat today. Maybe tomorrow.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 13, 2012
5:01 PM

Post #9041617

Tomorrow I will definiately be back out there. I still have 7 beds still with winter leaves and such plus 4 off the five done over the weekend to weed. This is the earliest I have ever done any of this so I know that by the time things start arriving I will be done with cleanup. I have been oh so impatiently waiting for this stuff to begin. I took some pics, not loaded yet and my show is starting. sorry but NCIS...
ItsMeChrissy
Union Grove, WI
(Zone 5b)

March 14, 2012
4:43 AM

Post #9042098

Love NCIS!!!! The original with Mark Harmon of course, but the other is ok too :-) I'm afraid to do too much outside, fear I'll jinx this beautiful weather! Of course we got chickens last year, they were too little to do much damage to the flower beds last summer but they have totally rearranged my mulch...they're lucky they'r so cute and provide eggs!

I see daffodils and tulips peaking out at me all over, can't wait for them to bloom!
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 14, 2012
4:45 AM

Post #9042099

Hey Ladies ...Great weather ahead Yay... cece ,Im gonna clean up some leftover leaves and other deris today...Its a real toss up what to do on a beatiful day,ride my motorcycle,clean stuff up,work down in the woods,I love running a chainsaw...a small one,and burning brush...Dang what to do what to do ...good thing its stilll dark out...hahaha

Everyone make it a great day

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 14, 2012
4:58 AM

Post #9042105

I'll be working outside all day. Have to take dgd to school stop at the store. When I get home old grubs go out and I will be out in the yard all day... High of 75 today. and sun and blue skies. I'm not wasting a moment of it.

Tam the bike ride, if I had one, would do it for me. Haven't been on the back of motorcycle in years. Ed almost bought one last summer but changed his mind. Darn.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 14, 2012
5:12 AM

Post #9042116

ahh..what to do what to do..Yesterday was nice too,I did drive the Go Fast Cadillac...we met for lunch,and the dh was waiting for me and he hopped out of his car an Said you wanna drive the V...oH baby...I was doing 80 before I hit 4th gear...wheeee...I slowed down real quick...didnt want too...

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 14, 2012
5:50 AM

Post #9042140

You are so much fun Tam. Too bad you live so far away...
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 14, 2012
6:54 AM

Post #9042234

We would spell trouble...in CAPS...LOL...fun,fun.. ; )
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 14, 2012
6:56 AM

Post #9042240

Will be outside all day today. Hearing the cranes flying way overhead (love that sound) and the robins chirping - all the music I need.
DH made an observation though yesterday. While the temps for the next week are heavenly, he mentioned that it was a warm spring back in the 90's and then we got literally dumped on with snow about the 3rd week of March. Without power for a week and roads impassable for a couple of days. I'll rest easier if we get through the next couple of weeks without more cold weather. Not that it's going to deter me from garden cleanup...

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 14, 2012
8:12 AM

Post #9042329

Oh I know, My Mom keeps telling me you shouldn't be doing that... It always snowed on Grandpa's birthday March 22nd. Told he it hasn't the past 3 years so it WON'T this year. Grandpa is in a position to make sure of it and Daddy right u[ there with him. It will NOT snow.

Oh but Tam trouble used to be my middle name...
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 15, 2012
5:54 AM

Post #9043365

I m pretty sure it was horrible Ice here for us that fine March day...Bad Ice...I know kept thinking I should not be doing this yet...Making us get all excited ...warm weather...

cece capital T...hehehe
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 15, 2012
7:23 AM

Post #9043511

cece - glad you have someone looking out for us. :)
I came to the conclusion yesterday that the plants and bulbs were going to sprout regardless of whether I clean up leaves or not. And they'll look worse for having been buried under leaves. Squashed daffodil or Virginia bluebell foliage is pretty sad. I do wish that it was a little cooler though to slow down the accelerated bloom time. Crocuses and snowdrops have given up already and the little twin flowers are coming up with flower buds rapidly opening. I did hear on WGN weather last night that warm March temps are always followed by snow. Oh well.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 15, 2012
7:36 AM

Post #9043522

I haven't done anything with this bed yet and look what I found yesterday...

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cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 15, 2012
7:58 AM

Post #9043559

I didn't do any of the clean up I thought I was going to do. The arbor I ordered came in and I decided I can put this together. Looked at the instructions and though child's play. HA! Had me so frustrated when I'd get one side together and start on the other the one I finished would pop back out. Then I could get one side to meet flush like it was supposed to... Finally went and got the trusty hammer.

Then THEN when I went to put the screws in at the end where the directions said to put them in I had 6 holes and only 5 screws. THEN it was too heavy to stand up on end and had to wait till Ed got home to help me put it in place!

Here isw the final product. Doesn't look like much standing up but really irritated me. When he got home and saw the hammer he said, Oh God Cherie what did you use the hammer for. The directions called for a screw driver only. Hee Hee...

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 15, 2012
7:59 AM

Post #9043560

Forgot the picture. Sorry

I will plant Fragrant Cloud Honeysuckle on it when it comes in.

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 16, 2012
2:41 PM

Post #9045216

Nice! And it looks well-placed.
I always enjoy the little surprises where the small bulbs decide to grow. I'm sure with all of my digging over the years, the little bulbs often get displaced and pop up. Of course, some self-sow and that's even more fun.
OK - now I'm hoping for rain. The poor daffs get a little mopey by late afternoon with the sun and warmth coupled with dry dirt.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 17, 2012
4:51 AM

Post #9045798

cece,If all else fails ...IT`s HAMMER TIME...LOL...I love it...

my butt is draggin 4 feet behind me today...Did some raking,got a whole traailer load,sticks and limbs and leaves...still have a 1/3 to do down here ,and up behind the garage...set 2 mole traps..Gave the dog a bath on Thursday,she played so hard yesterday,got hot I guess ...and went down into the greenslime covered wetlands and LAYED DOWN...OH...MEEE...I should have gotten a photo...She is a Swamp Dog...LOL..she loves it out here...Oh and she found frogs...Oh Boy Oh Joy...hahaha,till she tastes one...hahaha

Hoping to spend the day outside see what else needs done ..before I have any fun...going to start out in the Bathroom...sponge off the mud ,apply hoping the last coat of mud...This has been awful...what project to work on ... : ( Gotta get that bath done, get the ceiling painted,then we will be fine to wait,still need to pick out paper,,,No one here in town carries paper...well Columbia House interiors...$$$$ its bad enough Ill have to spend at least $200 on paper ...dont want to spend more...Its Flower Season,I need some leftover $$$ for Flowers...

Cant wait to see what everyone works on this weekend...I ll have to carry my camera around today...Have agreat day all...Tamara

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 17, 2012
5:44 AM

Post #9045842

My butts dragging this morning as well. Self induced though. Went to see Jon Stone Band last night and ended up staying a tad too long and dancing a bit more than what the body is used to lately. Oh my aching feet, legs and back.

I really need to get serious about cleanup outside. If its going end up dumping snow eventually so be it. I have been lazy waiting to see if the weather will turn. I did 5 of the beds but the one is getting filled up again with wind blowing the leaves from neighboring beds into it. time to get them all gone.

I need to un-stiff these muscles. Quick.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 17, 2012
5:59 AM

Post #9045858

sounds like you had fun though...I love to go dancing,honky tonk...Hey anyone know where I can get long fiber sphagnum moss for lining baskets,I need bulk..??? for the potting chairs..??? anyone ??

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 17, 2012
7:00 AM

Post #9045912

Nope I don't. Gave up looking for it a few years back. Have you tried at any Nurseries? I never made it to a nursery to check. I take the easy way...if its not close well. I don't bother.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 17, 2012
7:35 AM

Post #9045937

I've seen the coir basket liners and have even altered them to fit. Nice thing about those is sometimes you can get a second year out of them. (I'm cheap!) Otherwise, it's been a long time since I bought a bale of sphagnum moss and I had to search around for it then. Maybe a landscape center? A nursery that sells hanging baskets? Of course, so many nurseries now bring in baskets already done up rather than doing them on site. I'd sure let my fingers to the walking before setting out on a quest. Watch the dust from the moss when working with it as it can cause some health problems with some folks.
Today is raking the front yard of all the sticks and leaves and putting down the first lawn fertilizer of the season. DH found some chicken poop lawn stuff rather than the chemical stuff. What a guy! The stuff comes out of WI. Our oak trees soak up so much of the nutrients and water from the soil. I'm sure our neighbors will love us when we put down the fertilizer. Payback for one of them feeding raccoons. (I'm evil.) I'm hoping we'll get a little rain later since we've missed all of it over the past few days.
Off to rake.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 17, 2012
8:47 AM

Post #9045995

cloudy, where is they sun I was promised. Even as she is saying sunny and high of 78, told the t.v not here where's the sun here. Milwaukee can't hog it all.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 18, 2012
4:43 AM

Post #9046987

We had your sunshine cece till later... ; ) Dont know what the day is going to be like yet hoping alll sun allday,FOR CECE TOO...

OK So I wont go out of my way to look for the longfiber moss...LOL...That way I wont breath it either...Didnt know that,I know Pearlite is harmful to breath...acckkk

im thinking ,well Id love to buy coco liners,but I need a dozen or more,Ill ck at the big boxstores..Want to keep m y cost down,as Im donating these potting chairs,Im going to have chicken wire,potting soil,paint and labor in them...
i was thinking I could use landscape fabric...as the linning...what do you girls think ??

i need to go get weed and feed...I burned up my lawn last year,ooopppps,now areas are trying to fill up with crab grass an weeds ...I made a mess,sprayed weed killer was spose to rain ,and Never did all summer ...Oh meee..I put winterizer down in the fall,it helped, it is looking better,except for the weeds now..LOL
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 18, 2012
8:45 AM

Post #9047243

If you're not in a big rush, check out http://homeharvest.com/storeinfo.htm or Farmtek/Growers Supply. The latter's website currently undergoing maintenance so can't get there to copy link. The first one does carry sphagnum, etc and looks like they ship out of East Lansing, MI (which isn't awful in terms of shipping costs).
Haven't used landscape fabric for this application before. The landscape fabric has a tendency to shift a bit and securing it to hold the weight of the soil and plants might be a bit tricky. It might have a tendency to shred from the weight. Or it could work for a season.
Sunny and warm yesterday. Luckily we got the chicken poo put down yesterday and had some light rain very early this morning. Do wish the temp would drop a bit though. Forsythia and saucer magnolias are blooming and flowering almond should be blooming by the end of the week. The weather does keep me hopping with the cleanup though.
nutsaboutnature
Algonquin, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 18, 2012
10:14 AM

Post #9047327

The early Spring weather kind of caught me by surprise. I tend to leave a lot of dried plants standing all Winter for interest plus extra seeds for the birds.

Things started growing so quickly, though, that yesterday I was out trying to trim dead plants from between the Daffodils, Tulips and other plants coming up. . .kind of a pain. . .my fault, though, for being lazy about it. When I cut away the dead Nepeta I realized the new young Nepeta is already growing quite well. It's pretty much the same thing all over my yard.

I also haven't stayed on top of the dead branches on the lawn that have fallen all Winter (We have a yard full of large trees). My husband picked up some a day or two ago and I picked up more yesterday, but it's going to take a while to catch up.

I just read an article saying that because of the warmer Winters and early Spring, we'll probably have more weeds, invasives, and insects.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 18, 2012
2:25 PM

Post #9047604

I never cut anything back or down, ON PURPOSE! It strengthens hardiness. Yes it is a pain to clean up this year with everything growing so early but I just kinda deal with it. At least they aren't dead.l The way I look at it isn't laziness so much as extra protection.

nutsaboutnature
Algonquin, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 18, 2012
3:08 PM

Post #9047660

I like that! I'm not lazy. . .I'm just protective. Thank you cece!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 18, 2012
6:42 PM

Post #9047938

yw I learned laziness early on... lol Actually It was Melinda Meyers who said that was how she did things;
Some call it lazy, for her case it could be over worked, but I call it protection. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it
ItsMeChrissy
Union Grove, WI
(Zone 5b)

March 19, 2012
4:36 AM

Post #9048258

Morning All! This weekend I got 3 of our 6 flower beds cleaned up, did some antiquing on Saturday (bought nothing but it was fun!) and took a trip to Mennards on Sunday to buy a ton of wood! We're going to build a white picket fence around the veggie garden so our chickens can't get in.


CindyM, you said you got the chicken poo down, where do and how do you use the chicken poo? This past winter I just tossed it into the veggie area thinking I'll rototil it in sometime in April. Read that 'fresh poo' isn't good for the garden and there's gotta be enough in there now. Stopped tossing the newer stuff there. Looking for options to use up the poo as it shows up (someday I'll build a composter but don't have one right now!)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 19, 2012
7:00 AM

Post #9048452

Ah - insects. We've had mosquitoes for two weeks. Noticed it when they snuck in an open window before I thought to put in the screens.
The fertilizer is called Chickity DooDoo from Unlimited Renewables, LLC in Lake Mills, WI. It's a 5-3-2 made solely from poultry layer manure. I think DH said it was about $7 a bag at Menards. It is somewhat pelletized and, even though the package says it doesn't have an "aroma", it does. They have a website but I haven't gone there yet. Says on the package that it can be used for compost/manure tea as well. DH put it on the lawn for an early gentle feeding and I'm wondering if it would work for a garden bed fertilizer since the nitrogen isn't too high. Have been moving away from chemical fertilizers. Not that I'm going totally organic but something a little kinder to soils.
nuts - It sounds like your garden is more architecturally interesting than mine in winter. :) Some things I do cut back, others with colorful leaves like Epimediums I don't cut back until spring but then it's a race to get it cut back before the flowers show up. I wait to cut back my few pathetic roses until I see leaf emergence in the spring. The lower garden is much more challenging - nothing gets cut back in the fall but with a bigger area with bigger plantings, it's a pain during spring cleanup.
ItsMeChrissy
Union Grove, WI
(Zone 5b)

March 19, 2012
7:54 AM

Post #9048528

Good news is that I have 4 chickens and the produce plenty of poo... so no need to buy any :-) And yep, what the girls produce is plenty odiferous! I think I just need to get the hub to build a compost bin so I can use it in there, I'm told that putting chicken poo direct from the hen to the garden is not good for the plants (it's too something; acidic maybe?). Tossing it in the garden area during the winter months is ok as long as you stop 90 days or so before you do any planting. We have an old dog run that's filled with weeds and some grass chunks we dug up to create flower beds, that's where I'm tossing the poo for now.

CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 19, 2012
2:46 PM

Post #9049132

I've always heard that fresh manure is "too hot" but, chemically, not sure what that means. I do believe chicken poo is one of the mildest as compared to cows or horses but it still needs time to cool down. I'm experimenting with worm bins (indoors right now) but doubt they'll ever keep up with my need for the poo.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 20, 2012
4:55 AM

Post #9049809

Green or fresh poo ,Yes will Burn...Rabbit poo is the only one I know that you can apply it fresh.. Also you want it to compost first to kill off any weed seed in the poo...or you will have Lots Of New weeds to deal with. Just make yourself a nice pile and let it age...I used cow poo my stepson insisted...I could Kill him now ...Oh its composted...whatever...chickweed, Jimsonweed, oh mee...It was not composted Fully...Live an Learn...Id love worm bins...to cool...
frahnzone5
Bensenville, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 22, 2012
12:19 PM

Post #9052930

I can also attest that deer poo deposited direclty from the deer's back end to my garden will not burn either. The damage done by the deer's hooves and teeth however are another matter! :)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 22, 2012
3:31 PM

Post #9053163

frahn - agree with you on the deer damage. Had one step on a new-last-year Epimedium. :( It did send up some leaf shoots so maybe it's ok.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 27, 2012
3:49 AM

Post #9058734

My silly neibor was feeding a herd of deer, and the other neibor is suffering from it...Deer poop and them eating all landscape plants,and hooves tearing up...I hope they dont shuffle over here to eat ...Crazy woman...I dont think she fed them this past winter...I think he told her...she was bad...LOL
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 27, 2012
6:37 AM

Post #9058870

The deer got into my yard this winter and nibbled on the tops of an azalea and took a couple of bites of rhodie leaves. I usually cover up my azaleas and Pieris with a teepee of tree branches, kinda disguising the plants so the deer don't eat (much).

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 27, 2012
8:43 PM

Post #9059887

The wintersown tomatoes came up last week.a few years past if anyone would of suggested such a thing was even possible(no way). Well I'll wait and see how it works out.
Anyone thinking thoughts similar

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 27, 2012
9:53 PM

Post #9059944

We are having March in WI now just like March should be in WI. Another high 30's evening again. Course we did get up in the upper 60's today but that wind was high and cool. Didn't feel all that warm.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 28, 2012
7:19 AM

Post #9060224

Wintersown tomatoes? I would never have thought to try them. Actually, I was going to wintersow some stuff - had seeds, soil, milk jugs - but it turned warm too fast.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 28, 2012
9:25 PM

Post #9061326

If the weather stays like it is were having late may and june weather,and as it has been for three or four weeks.If it keeps this going we might be talking about palm tree fruit instead of vegetables!
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 29, 2012
5:21 AM

Post #9061495

Same here cece...I wont do Tomato`s yet...theyd get to big to fast,still have 6 weeks,Ill do them in 3 weeks.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 29, 2012
6:29 AM

Post #9061593

Gonna start my tomato seeds this weekend for last quarter of May plant-out. Read an interesting article this morning - when to plant/how to garden based on bloom times. Not a good year to run that article based on this spring's weather. Heck, according to the article, based on what's been blooming, I'd be close to planting tomatoes.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 29, 2012
8:39 PM

Post #9062708

I'm only being impatient (not such a good trait for gardening) my tomatoes are yellow heirloom and like temperatures ten degrees cooler than the usual 70 day and 55 nightime. The kleckley.s sweet watermelon I've had growing in the garden for two weeks could convince anyone; only that is something other (lol) What ever would be the possibility of that.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 30, 2012
6:54 AM

Post #9062977

I get impatient to start seeds as well. What helps discipline my impulses is that I make a seed-sowing list every year and schedule the sowing date on paper. It does tend to force me to think if I really want to start stuff earlier. Common sense sometimes wins out.

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