Thanks once again Carol.
I don't know what I would do without your help.
I was given this piece today and am about to plant it.
It has small Flower spikes on it. (the size of a green pea)
Will they continue to grow ?
Hard to say. Mine are at the same stage now...about a month early. If the weather changes, again, they may drop their buds. The plants will also shed the buds if they are too small to support flowers yet. Cross your fingers! If this is an unrooted cutting, the buds will probably drop, but at least you know you have a mature cutting.
Very much appears to be Epiphyllum Oxypetalum if judged by the stem structure. ;I would think the budding would be new stems due to location and design,. Here is the flower that goes with it. I would root it in a soil/wood chip/perlite medium in order for it not to rot. Keep it in open air for about a week before putting it in the soil mixture. bob
orchidman1 wrote:Very much appears to be Epiphyllum Oxypetalum if judged by the stem structure. ;I would think the budding would be new stems due to location and design,. Here is the flower that goes with it. I would root it in a soil/wood chip/perlite medium in order for it not to rot. Keep it in open air for about a week before putting it in the soil mixture. bob
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I notice you first posted this Post on the 7-2-12.
Then you Edited it on the 6-2-12 ?
How on earth did you achieve such a thing ?
Do you know Dr Who ?
You are completely right Carol.
It was a typo error on my part sorry.
I have never gotten used to this Forum being called 'Orchid Cactus'.
Too darn hot to Mow at the moment. ( 28º C. )
Can't walk on the Concrete Driveway barefooted.
So I decided to find out a bit more about this Orchid Cactus on Yahoo.
I was totally blown away to find there are thirteen thousand different types of this cactus.
And there are many more being created by Botanists every year.
Kell: Looking at your picture I am thinking those are in fact blooms coming on your plants. I did't realize that you are in Austraiia and in the height of your blooming season! If they are blooms, they do not resemble Oxy blooms. I can't wait to watch them develop and reveal more. bob
Well !!! this morning my question was answered by Mother Nature.
The pink flower buds had dropped off. † † †
Because of the lack of any other answer.
I can only put it down to one thing.
The small piece I cut off only had enough internal juice/food to look after one bud.
So It discarded all the others.
In this case there were 3 buds discarded.
The one that remains is looking great today.
The cutting in the water has not dropped any buds and none have turned pink.
So there may be an answer to my dilemma on how to propagate them right there.
Took this Picture this morning of the parent plant.
I have not noticed these two spent Flower buds before.
I wonder how old they are ?
And there is one pink bud at the very top just left of centre.
So I don't feel too bad about my pink buds.
Now that I am taking much more notice of these Orchid Cactus.
I noticed these much bigger lumps on the Leaves.
I can only guess they are the FRUIT ?
I just cut off 2 leaves from the Parent Plant with these cute little presents on them.
I will now wait till they gift their contents to me.
Here is a Picture of one of the Fruit ?
I wonder if they are edible ¿ ¿ ¿
Can I put them in my Stir Fry ?
May be lack of light, it faces east so gets morning sun...yes, originally I had it in the bathtub in the master bedroom 'cause I had no other place to fit it then it cut off the light there & my husband was annoyed so I put it in our unheated guest bedroom on a table...it's still sending out those feelers all over the place...they all are getting leaves on them so I'm just taking a wait & see attitude...I'm also waiting to see your open blooms!!!!!
Depsi wrote:Bob, get a group rate!!! I'm going too!!!
I'll slip another Snag on the BBQ.
This was the latest addition to my OC collection.
I am thinking of cutting this Fruit in ½ as an experiment and Photo opportunity.
This time I will cut it lengthways just for something different.
I know it will still be full of seed.
Has any one ever tried to propagate this Plant from seed ?
Went for my usual 10 k walk this morning.
I was surprised to find the parent plant had produced over 30 Flowers over night.
So I went back with My Canon and got these all but too late Pictures of the limp Flowers.
The Flowers were already closed.
Mine will Flower tonight.
WOW!!!! Absolutely amazing to see sooo many blooms at once, and the chronicle of the progress of your cutting was quite interesting to see. Did the cutting in water ever bloom, or did it loose the final bud as well?
Kell thanks for sharing these pictures of the failed bloom. We can all learn from the experience of others. I've only ever rooted in soil, this is my second year growing epies, so hopefully I'll be lucky enough to see some blooms this year. Annette
Thanks Annette and Carol.
There is about 3 more days of blooming still on the Parent Plant.
So I will go up tonight and look for any suspect pollinators.
It has been Raining all day so I have decided to remove all the seeds from my original Fruit slices.
The seeds are very sticky and are hard to separate.
I decided to put them into an old Honey Jar ½ full of water and a spoon full of beach sand.
I then shook it for more than an hour.
When all the sticky gel was washed off I put them on my Studio work bench.
I'm not sure how many of you know the secret of soaking seeds in water ?
After one hour all the seeds soak up water at an equal rate.
ONLY THE VIABLE SEED WILL SINK.
The ones that float are RS 98% of the time.
I found 26 seeds inside the first seed pod/fruit that I cut up into slices.
18 of them sunk quickly to the bottom of a glass jar full of water.
8 of them remained floating for over 3 hours.
On closer examination under a 'Jewlers Eye Piece' the 26 good seed have small white things coming out of them.
I will plant all of the seeds but separate the good from the bad.
I just hope I won't need to wait ½ a year for some results.
Yes Annette, a cool way of doing things.
Most seeds have a hard outer shell.
They need scarification.
Another method is submersing them in boiling hot water. (google it)
If I am not buisy I prefer the sand and water method.
Some people will even use an angle grinder to wear away the shell.
Impossible with these seeds, too darn small.
But it does work on Mango seeds.
A lot of the Australian Natives will only shoot after a good boiling.
I only used one small tray as there were only 26 seeds.
I made my mixture out of 10% standard potting mix and 90% coarse River Sand. (sharp sand)
It has worked for me on so many other seeds. (sand won't hold water)
So I thought I would give it a try here.
I will keep you posted on their progress.
Last night started out a bit of a poor Flower watching experience.
At 6pm a massive black thunderstorm rolled right over my place.
It dumped more than 4 ½” of rain in about two hours.
I put away tripod and all my Photography gear and went to bed.
At 10-30pm I went outside to find two of my newly planted cuttings in full Flower.
One of them was the one rooting in water.
This time the Flower was perfectly OK.
I left the old deformed Flower on to see what might happen to it.
These Pictures were taken free-hand so they are not as clear as my Studio Pictures.
Gorgeous setting, but way too far north and cold for me. The issue is I love growing tropical plants, but I do not live in a zone that allows them to live outside all the time. Canada and Alaska are nice, but I wouldn't want to live in either place. Too short of a bloom season for me.
People do Climb every one of these Mountains.
The East face of Beerwah is the highest and also the steepest.
It takes us about 4 hours to complete the ascent.
The overhang in the second last Picture is more than 8 meters wide. (fun)
But in reality we don't have anything like YOUR Yosemite National Park.
Now there is a real Climbers paradise.
Yesterday, I was very pleased to see the first signs of my Epi. seeds begin to sprout.
I wonder how many of Yall have ever seen this miracle of life occur ?
I planted 18 good seed in this bed.
And 8 bad ? seed in another bed.
This is the end of night four of My Flowering Epis.
And yes, last night there was yet another Flower on one of my Epies.
There are now only 3 Flowers yet to come.
But they do look a few weeks behind.
Today I will return to the Parent Plant and pick as many fruit as I can reach.
I am anxious to grow and document as many young plants from seed as possible.
It has become my main mission in life. † † † (besides Christianity)
Well I got 8 new fruit.
I have only Photographed 4 of them here.
The other 4 were so ripe they burst open as I picked them.
So they went straight into my glass Jar of water.
Ginger749 - You need patience with those seeds. I've grown "day blooming" epis from seed. Its fascinating to watch the development. My seedlings are now in their third year and are just starting to look like the parents - large flat leaves. Not sure when I can expect to see blooms, maybe not for another couple of years.
these are some of last years blooms. Not expecting buds this year until end of April.
That second picture of yours sure looks like what I have growing here.
Thanks for your encouragement.
Do you have pictures of your Grown from seed progress ?
If you have a link ? I would love to take a look.
This afternoon the end of the round stems have 3 distinct leaves on them.
Too early for a Picture of this stage.
Well it has been one week since my Epies first started Flowering.
Last night the Big Multi Head Cutting growing in soil produced two more Flowers. (only one more to go)
This time I knew exactly what to do.
I went out at 1am and took Pictures.
I then got a Water Colour Brush and rubbed it all over the Pollen on both Flowers.
What I am hoping to do is produce my own Fruit on demand.
I have noticed the Parent Plant as big as it is, only produces a dozen Fruit.
I would like to increase that to 100% on My Flowers.
Can anyone tell me if I'm dreaming ?
This Picture was taken just a few minutes ago. ( now 35 mm tall )
All Plants are doing Great and so are the Grand Parents.
I now have more than 300 of these seedlings growing above the ground.
Very exciting times for me.
A story about the Ant mutualism.
Some species of ants "farm" aphids, protecting them on the plants they eat, eating the honeydew that the aphids release from the terminations of their alimentary canals. This is a "mutualistic relationship".
These "dairying ants" "milk" the aphids by stroking them with their antennae.
Some farming ant species gather and store the aphid eggs in their nests over the winter. In the spring, the ants carry the newly hatched aphids back to the plants. Some species of dairying ants (such as the European yellow meadow ant, Lasius flavus) manage large "herds" of aphids that feed on roots of plants in the ant colony. Queens that are leaving to start a new colony take an aphid egg to found a new herd of underground aphids in the new colony. These farming ants protect the aphids by fighting off aphid predators.
An interesting variation in ant-aphid relationships involves lycaenid butterflies and Myrmica ants. For example, Niphanda fusca butterflies lay eggs on plants where ants tend herds of aphids. The eggs hatch as caterpillars which feed on the aphids. The ants do not defend the aphids from the caterpillars but carry the caterpillars to their nest. In the nest, the ants feed the caterpillars, which produce honeydew for the ants. When the caterpillars reach full size, they crawl to the colony entrance and form cocoons. After two weeks, butterflies emerge and take flight.
Some bees in coniferous forests also collect aphid honeydew to make "forest honey".
If they ever come back, I will take a Picture of the ants tending the aphids.
I am finding it very hard to take a good Picture of the under water roots.
As soon as I pull the entire Epi. out of the water.
All the roots hang down and clump together.
Looks like I will have to find a Glass Jar big enough to hold the plant.
Then take a better Picture from below the water line.
Actually that is a pretty good picture showing the roots….I am amazed that you have been able to get this baby to root in water. I have 2 that were given to me, and I'm quite tempted to try this myself! Mine are still quite young, so I'm a little apprehensive to try it, but…..
Nothing tried…Nothing gained!
Ginger, no, I didn't get pictures while they were rooting, but the cuttings I got from them the following year have all bloomed for me their second year, with one exception, and it has buds this year. I do try to get stems , rather than pieces. They root and bloom much faster.
Well today was finally a dry day.
I spent the first 3 hours spraying poison on weeds. (still 6 hours more to go)
Then I decided to pot up the water rooted Epi.
The bottom 3” was rotten.
So I cut it off ½" under the roots.
That is wonderful growth is such a short time. Hopefully the plant will take off, and give you blooms sooner. My casualties were just pieces that broke off as the plants were being used, so I'm going to cut them up, let some dry before repotting, but I also want to try the water rooting method as I mentioned above. I'll just wind up with extras of some of the plants eventually. Annette
Ginger - Thanks for posting the pic of the Epi! Bush!! Lol I have never in my life seen it grow that wide and big. I have seen them in tropical places in tress, but never like that! WOW!!!
That is really amazing!