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Australian and New Zealand Gardening: Bromeliads for Novices and Addicts February 2012

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 3, 2012
1:46 PM

Post #8993542

Hi Everyone,
Well it was time for a new brom thread, so here we are.

We came from

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1235412/

Now it was hard to pick a photo this time, so I have used one that most people like and although I have shared it before, I thought it would be a nice one to start off the new thread. It's Neoregelia Dream Baby.

Tash

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 3, 2012
4:19 PM

Post #8993772

Hi, once again, many thanks to everyone for all the great advice. Suffering a bit of information overload at the moment but will sort it all out.

Yes Nev, we have possums and bush rats too. I don’t really think it was the dog and we don’t have a cat. The possums are a real pain though … they ruined a lot of our mangoes this year even though we took steps to stop them, put a barrier around the tree trunk and a net over the top and tied plastic bags around etc etc ... didn't work. I noticed the other day that there were king parrots feeding on them too, though I don’t mind that so much as they are such beautiful birds.

At this point, I am happy to blame the brom damage on a possum and tell myself it wasn’t something that I did … ha ha. Does anyone know a good possum repellent … I’m told they also carry paralysis ticks and are not affected like domestic animals as they are immune to the poison. I try to discourage them, although our nearest neighbours have built lovely little tree houses for them. Hopefully they will all go and live at their house, not ours.

Nev, our dog loves to eat smelly stuff. I can’t use horse, cow or chook manure on the garden 'cos he gets out there and he eats it. If I cover it, it just means he digs up the garden. Sounds disgusting, but it eats the koala and wallaby poo, duck poo and almost any other he finds around the place. He is very well fed, weighs around 50 kg and always hungry. I have to use slow release fertilizers on the garden … he hasn’t taken to the granules yet.

As for catching “bromeliaditis”, I think I am coming down with a serious case of it. I have admired broms from a distance for years but resisted the temptation to start collecting them because there are so many beautiful ones out there and as I am a bit on the obsessive side, I didn’t want to have to buy and house thousands of them, but my resistance has grown weak and my brom collection is growing rapidly.

I caught “succulentitis” a couple of years ago and had to have every agave, aloe and echeveria available and still have a nice collection of them too. I do get a bit carried away on eBay at times. Fortunately, we have plenty of room here but the day is coming we will have to move as it is getting to be too much work as we get older keeping up the mowing, mulching and pruning etc etc. We will put it off as long as we possibly can as we don’t like the thought of a small suburban block or a retirement village.

Glad to hear you think the shadecloth will work out OK. I read that some growers use a second layer, is that just for the hottest part of the day, maybe I will have to do something like that.

Anyway, nice fine day today and not before time. Can’t see us getting too much done from the long list of jobs though ‘cos being the weekend, the grandkids will be up … always great to see them ... maybe I can put them to work too!!

Gotta go … someone has to do the housework

Shirley
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 3, 2012
8:41 PM

Post #8994014

Hi everyone. Have been shopping with the boys this morning. Have been outside looking for the back gate key that I've misplaced. I remember putting it down and thinking that wasn't a very good place, and now I can't remember where that " Not a very good place" is. I have to find it otherwise I'll have to break the lock as I don't have a spare. Well it started off a very nice morning with sun shining but it is rather warm and overcast now. The markets are on again tomorrow so had better have a look to see if there's any plants that need a new home. The boys always find something down there too. It's a really nice market as they block the streets off and every man and his dog can walk wherever they like. They always have some food and icecream and coffee stands, and seating put out for anyone who wishes or needs to sit a while. I usually try to get down there as they're setting up and get the to pick the eyes out of everything. Ooops I was thinking that I was in the tearoom and have raved on a bit. sorry. The pink plant is Neo rosea striata Nev. One from you and is being looked after well. I did go out and take a pic of just that one this morning but haven't downloaded it yet, so will put it up later for you all to see. Had better go. be back later. Colleen

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:32 AM

Post #8994090

Look at my babies...there gradually growing. I like this peat moss and sand mix alot better than the sphagnum moss as it grows faster than the baby broms do.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:10 PM

Post #8994540

Good morning everyone,

Shirley – Many years ago I had a dog with exactly the same traits as yours, he ate everything that stank! Even when I was mixing orchid compost, he would walk around the base of the heap and get the little lumps of blood and bone as they rolled down the side and eat them as quick as he could. My dog was always well fed and still always seemed to be hungry (like yours), so I took him to the vet who diagnosed a “tape worm”. After treatment he lost all these bad habits and his continual hunger disappeared. Apparently it’s the tape worm that eats everything and the animal doesn’t get the nourishment and still remains hungry, that’s what I was told anyway.

Colleen – I had the very same problem with the key to our side gate many years ago, I overcame the problem by fitting a combination lock with a simple four digit combination. They’re usually the same price or a bit cheaper of keyed locks of the same size and with a squirt of WD40 every month, it’s still doing the job now, thirty years later.

Your babies are looking good and I’m pleased to see you didn’t make the same mistake that most of us do when we first start growing brom seeds. (By the way, what are the seeds from?)... Usually we tend to sow far too many causing them to be grossly overcrowded and therefore don’t grow properly. Yours are well spaced and looking good. I found the same thing as you with the sphagnum moss; it grew much faster than the seeds and choked them out of existence. The hybridizers I know in America and Hawaii use sphagnum moss but it’s been compressed and dehydrated. Once it’s rehydrated again, it’s a great seed sowing medium because it won’t grow.

When sowing seed we should never lose sight of the fact that they will all grow into adult plants eventually and you’ll need somewhere to put them so never sow too many. True, some will die and you’ll get rid of some by “culling” but if you’re anything like me, you’ll find it extremely hard to toss out perfectly healthy little brom plants simply because you have too many; and finish up being in a "pickle" like me with a heap of potting well over due to be done as shown in the following pictures.

We had a bit of respite from the rain yesterday but I still didn’t get any work done as I had to go to our first Brom Society meeting for the year and I thoroughly enjoyed meeting up with brom friends again who I haven’t seen since the December meeting. Once the meeting business was finished, one of the younger members gave a great “Power Point Presentation” on different insect pests and diseases which was illustrated with lots of colour slides and a second member gave a very interesting talk on Catopsis, which was illustrated with various flowering examples of this genus. This genus isn’t widely grown in our area and it was quite interesting to see examples of something different. The plants on the point score table were of very high quality which is surprising for the first meeting of the year and considering all of the rain we’ve had, and there were some lovely Nidulariums as well to add another dimension to the display. There were of course as usual lots of very reasonably priced plants on the "sales table" as well as pots, name tags, pot hangers and other associated brom growing equipment. The library also proved to be very popular after being closed over the Christmas break and just reopened at this meeting. We then had the monthly raffle with prizes ranging from pots to plants and this was followed by afternoon tea nicely prepared by the ladies from "plates" brought in by the members.

If any of you have the chance to join a Bromeliad Society or Study Group I can certainly recommend it as a great place to learn about these plants and to make good friends from like minded people who are all willing to share information at a most enjoyable get-together each month.

I’ll finish now with a couple of pic’s I managed to get early yesterday when it wasn’t raining. They show the little shade house where I grow my seedlings and shows just how this part of the hobby can get away from you if you aren’t able to keep up with all the potting.

All the best, Nev

This is an area I call “The Kindergarten”, which is a section built in the centre of the Neoregelia Shade House. This is where the seedlings are moved to from a covered area on the back porch of the house

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:13 PM

Post #8994547

As you can see, there are already lots of plant requiring "potting on"

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:16 PM

Post #8994550

There are a few Aechmea seedlings but most are of my favourite genus, Neoregelia; some of which are starting to alreadys how a bit of colour.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:21 PM

Post #8994559

From the "kindergarten" they are moved to a larger area I call "The Primary School"

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:25 PM

Post #8994565

...and from this point on hey just seem to "take off" and grow almost as fast as the grass (well not quite, but I do have trouble keeping up with the work they create)

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:33 PM

Post #8994575

Colours are starting to become apparent as are the various shapes ...

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 4, 2012
12:41 PM

Post #8994580

...and it looks like more repotting and "culling" is called for.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 4, 2012
1:44 PM

Post #8994652

Hi everyone. Nev it looks as though you need a heap of little elves to give you a hand. The little ones are showing some nice colours already aren't they? My closest Brom society is over 200kms away. One guy from up here is a member but he doesn't get to go to the meetings but usually goes to one of the sales a year. Gauging by his plants they don't have the right way of getting the lovely colours that we have. I keep telling him that he has to put his plants in more light but til now he's been ignoring me. He came around to have a look at my plants one day and spotted Halalujah. He said "I haven't got that one". I said "yes you have because I got it for you" and told him what it was. He said"oh I'd better put it in more light" Silly bugger, lol that's what I'd been telling him. I still haven't found the key. Colleen

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 4, 2012
4:22 PM

Post #8994819

ctmorris that one looks like my Lila?
Splinter i only had a few seeds pods i picked of a plant i got my dad for his bday and i didn't think they'd grow but sowed them in 3 containers so thats why there not crowed. There Vriesea splenden seeds. Wow you have soooo many plants, its like me with orchids. I don't have any room in my greenhouse(full of orchids) so this is the only brom seeds i'll have that'll fit. My adult broms are out in a garden.

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perke_patch

February 5, 2012
5:30 AM

Post #8995236

wow miss a couple days and there's lots of reading to do to catch up. Welcome Shirley. with regards to your big ceramic pots, we have those but leave our broms in their plastic pots. we have some deep fancy pots so we stand a pot upside down in bottom and sit our plastic pot on top of that. we then pack bubble wrap around the pots to fill the bigger ceramic pot. then we just put a layer of bark on top of the lot to make it look like plant is potted in bigger pot. This makes the pot lighter and easier to carry if you need to move it. Then when that plant loses it's shine it is easy to replace it with a newer nicer plant.

I've attached a pic of our epiphytic tree. we have used Unails to attach the broms to the tree and as Nev said we have lots of old mans beard hanging there as well.

thanks for the new thread Tash. I would do it if I knew how.I know it has been explained before but I can't remember how. I tried one month but couldn't remember how.

Must be off to bed after our very busy weekend. Night all. I look forward to reading all the posts again tomorrow night.

Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 5, 2012
12:57 PM

Post #8995681

Hi everyone,

Looks overcast again this morning, but no matter as I can’t do anything among the brom’s today anyway as I have to go to a very boring committee meeting of the Brom Society where we have to re-structure the society's constitution, so that should be bloody fun, I don’t think!

Colleen – I don’t know about “little elves”, I sometimes think I need half a dozen permanent employees! That bloke that came around to your place seems like a good example of the old saying, “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink”. The one thing I always find very annoying is when people come around (and don’t get me wrong, I like people to come around to chat about brom’s), but it’s when they ask all these questions and are obviously not listening to the answers and they’re asking the next question while you’re still answering the first one.

I had a lady come around once who looked at a Hallelujah that had been growing in light shade and been heavily fed to produce more pups. It had already flowered, and its colour had changed to mainly green with the white spots due to the combination of extra nitrogen and the low light. I told her it was a Hallelujah, but the look she gave me said she clearly didn’t believe what I’d said. She just said how much she liked it and offered to buy it for $20. Normally she could have had it for $5 but because of her” know-all” and over bearing nature I took the $20 instead; and didn’t even feel guilty!

Your plants are looking great; nice colour and nice and healthy. How's the mesh wall going, do you have it full yet?

Bree – Sorry I didn’t acknowledge they were your seedlings yesterday, but I misread the post and thought they were Colleens. What was the name of the plant the seed came from? I'm sure you'll find that little seed growing exercise very interesting and the best thing is the anticipitation of what you'll get when they eventually mature

Wendy – I think your “Brom Tree” looks great; there’s nothing looks as good as brom’s growing naturally. A friend of mine (in fact the young bloke I said gave the presentation at our brom meeting) had a Phillipo-Corbergii mounted in a tall tree and it looked magnificent last year with five large flower spikes on it. Unfortunately, the weight of the plant and all of its pups broke the branch, so now it’s back to square one and he has to start all over again.

Nothing else to report so I’ll finish with some pic’s.

All the best, Nev.

Just a few pic's of the Neo's in the shade house

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 5, 2012
12:59 PM

Post #8995683

The same bench but looking in the other direction

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 5, 2012
1:08 PM

Post #8995695

This is the next bench around the corner

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 5, 2012
1:17 PM

Post #8995707

I'll finish up with a bit more of the same bench. Those small plants in the front in the white baskets are Neo Thunderbird x self seedlings. They are coming in all different shades of red and proving very popular. Not much in the shape stakes but some nice colours, even at this early stage and hopefully they will only get better as they mature
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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 5, 2012
1:20 PM

Post #8995712

Whoo hoo Nev you make me drool with your pics. lol They look so beautiful. Wendy your tree broms look lovely. I don't think the broms would like to be out in our full sun and I'm not about to give it a try. I suppose I could try some on the pines, they're pretty shady, but the cups would get full of nettles from them. That's not a good look for anything. The poor cacti have been copping them for over a year now but I've moved a lot of them now. Nev the Reo is still a work in progress. I go out and sit in the shade and make up a couple of hangers and then find something else to hang in it. Still have 2 and a half sections to go. I'll get there. The plumber is coming at 8.30 this morning so have already got a load of washing going. It will be lovely to switch the tap on and water everything. Not the broms, I'll still do that by hand. My time, plus I check everything out at the same time. must go. Colleen

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 5, 2012
2:17 PM

Post #8995774

Everyone is showing beautiful broms this morning. And its lovely to read all the posts. Again, I'm in a rush this morning as we need to go out.

Did the markets yesterday, but they aren't up to full capacity yet after the holidays, so one or two favourites were missing. Still, I got these minis really cheap. The red is labelled Neo. Little Rosita, and the stripey one is labelled Neo. Misfit.

Have a great day all.
Karen

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 5, 2012
6:48 PM

Post #8996050

Hi, me again ….

You all have such beautiful broms … I am so envious. From reading the forum, it seems most of you grow from seed, not sure I have the patience for that. I did it a few times with agave and aloe seed without much success and those that did grow were soooo slow. More than a year after they germinated they were still so tiny. Then we went away for a couple of weeks and I lost most of them anyway.

Breeindy, you mention seed pods … I don't think I have ever seen one, wouldn’t even know where to look for them. Boy, do I have a lot to learn.

Nev, you have the most amazing collection …can I ask how long you have been collecting broms and a ball park estimate of how many you have? Interesting about your dog and the tapeworm but I think ours is just a guts. We have had him from 6-8 weeks old and always treated him 3 monthly with intestinal wormer (the one which includes tapeworm). But, he has just had his 7th birthday and is due for his annual vet check, booster shots and heartworm needle so I will ask the vet.

As for joining a Bromeliad Group, I would love to but have to work up a bit more courage. I know they are going to be lovely people but it’s still a bit confronting.

Colleen, I “hid” keys to the house a good while back somewhere on the back patio. Some time later when we locked ourselves out, I thought I knew where they were but couldn’t find them. Fortunately we had the remote to the garage door and access to a jigsaw and Michael cut a hole in the door. I later remembered moving them to a “better” place … wherever that might be. Never did find them. We now have a new door, new locks and I “think” I know where to look for the spare key.

Thanks Wendy for your welcome and the helpful information on ceramic pots. Are your broms attached to a Melaleuca … they look great.

We removed the old cloth from the shadehouse over the weekend. It is still in pretty good condition considering it has been there for around 18 years. A few holes where sticks falling from the gums have gone thru it but otherwise it was just all the ? lichens / fungal thingies growing on it. I guess the same thing will happen to the new stuff. I will attach a photo of the stuff growing on it and if anyone has any ideas how to keep them away I would be really grateful.

Also many of my broms are without names. Don’t want to wear out my welcome but maybe I could take a photo sometime of one or two of them and ask for identification ???

I’ll sign off now … sorry for the looong posts.

Shirley

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 5, 2012
8:35 PM

Post #8996168

Hi Everyone,
good on you Bree with the Vr splenden seeds, that is one lot of seed I just can't get to grow so far, that and hieroglyphica seeds. I have had about 4 different lots sent to me and none have every germinated. Very odd. Not sure if it's just me or if it's the climate up here?
Wendy love that tree, I wish we could do that here. Nev your photos are such a tease! lol
Nice group shot Colleen, and l love the monkey hiding in there, very cute.
Nice pick up on the mini's Karen, my parents were here the other day and my mum took a shine to the minis we have (we don't have that many though) so I might have to find some for her.
Shirley nice to see you staying around too :) Yeah attach photos when you can, I used to ask 100's of questions, trust me, ask anyone in here, lol. I used to have spread them out as I was that bursting at the seams with things I wanted to know. I am trying to grow from seed, but yes it's so slowwww and not as easy as people might think and yes I keep losing lots because they dry out too much etc. We just moved them all again on the weekend and I should go out and check them acutally and make sure they are doing ok in the new position. Only moved them maybe a metre, from the fence line to the house wall type thing, but it's amazing what the light difference is just with a small move. Don't want to fry them as the ones that have made it this far are doing ok.
Many of us have heaps of broms with no names, we usually refer to them as NOID which simply stands for... No Id ( No Identity).
But post the photos and you'll be surprised at how many of them people will know :)
Ok well I had better keep moving, sorry can't help with the shade cloth critters, lol.
I'll attach a pic of our Aechmea blanchetiana's.
Tash

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 6, 2012
1:17 AM

Post #8996234

I've put this on FB but had to share it here. I saw this at the Catlans a few weeks ago and loved it, but they had no seedlings from it. Today, Genny sold me a pup from it. I am over the moon. She said some people don't like them much because of the strappy leaves, but I love the "snakeskin" pattern on this. It is called Billbergia Deliciosia.

Shirley, this forum is to share all aspects of growing and showing broms, and looking for id's is a big part of it. I am relatively new to brom collecting so I also have questions about mystery plants. Not all have been answered, but some have, and its great.

Tash, love those blanchetianas, they always stand out in a garden and look great.

Krista, hope you are still popping in.

Karen

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perke_patch

February 6, 2012
2:41 AM

Post #8996247

Karen I love your little neos but your red one doesn't really look like my little rosita which I have attached a pic of. I checked FCBS though and the one there looks more red than mine so maybe I have the wrongly named one.

Shirley we welcome new members so we can mentor them and hopefully stop you from making the mistakes we made. One big mistake we made when we first started really collecting was to make a really beautiful shadecloth structure and new gardens beneath to display our first group of expensive purchases. All our best plants went in there to display at their best. For 6 months or so they grew so well and looked amazing then the first really heavy period of rain came and after weeks of it our broms started rotting off in the middle. I asked someone if the neo flowers sent the water rotten if they sat in deep water for too long. After lots of questioning it was revealed that the timber structure my husband had build for the shadecloth was the culprit poisoning the broms below. If there had been a forum like this around then a single photo of our structure would have had all sorts of advice about pulling it down and/or building it differently. So hopefully we can keep new members from making big mistakes like we all probably did without that advice. If we can help you identify your broms we will be happy too.

Karen I like your new billbergia. I got to pick some billbergias from Genny's special area a while back. These were the broms kept for breeding purposes for seedlings. She has some amazing ones for hybridising. I love to go down there to see what we can find. there is always something amazing there to discover.

Nev and Tash your parcels are on the way so I hope you enjoy your presents when you open the box.

Nev you have so much colour in your shadehouse. well done. I must take some more pics of the thunderbird x self seedlings you sent to me. They are potted up into big pots and are happily growing in a totem so getting very big and red.

I'm taking Jen out to see my brothers collection of broms tomorrow. He works interstate in mining and only comes home for a week or two at a time so he has a lot of work each time he comes home to keep the broms going. We have had to go out to help him at times to dead leaf them and spray for scale etc. Hopefully Jen will find something she will want to take home with her.

wendy

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 6, 2012
3:06 AM

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Wendy, this is where the forum is good as we can find out if we have mis-named plants. I got that from the markets, it is a mini. It could be wrongly named. I can never find what I'm looking for in that FCBS thing. I find the right section but they are never there. I did find 2 other pics elsewhere that are mini little rositas, both were bright red. Only time will tell if mine goes red like that.

Genny asked after you and John. I said John hadn't been too good. The corpse plant is done now but I got more pics of the inside where the seeds are developing. I am so pleased we got to see it in the 3 different stages.

I know this is off topic, but here is the Titan Arum on its first day out in flower...

Karen

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 6, 2012
3:08 AM

Post #8996256

That was a week ago. Here it is today...

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 6, 2012
4:40 AM

Post #8996303

Yes... I followed you good folks over to February. You can't get shed of me that easily. lol I am enjoying the photos and the conversation.

Karen ~ I can see why you were excited to get the Billbergia Deliciosia. It is an attractive and large plant. Looking forward to seeing it bloom for you also.

I've also enjoyed the Titan Arum photos you have posted. There was one at a nearby university that the botany dept managed to bring into bloom. It was a spectacle worth recording as was the one you posted ~ thank you.

I like Tashs' A. blanchetiana collection but they would be too oversized for me. The mini neos would be better suited for me. I really do like the way your shadehouse is set up too. Very inviting.

Wendy, can you tell me what you use when you spray for scale. I've had two different types of scale, one on an Aechmea and one on a Cryptanthus. So far I have them under control but would like to know what you find successful?

Thanks to all for the good information ~ Kristi

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 6, 2012
5:05 AM

Post #8996321

I love this forum … everyone is so friendly and helpful and I really appreciate the advice. Sounds like a few of you made some rather expensive mistakes along the way and it’s great that you’re willing to share your experiences and save others from falling into the same traps.

I will attach a photo of one of my NOIDs. Tash, thanks for the explanation of NOID, I had seen it mentioned earlier and wondered what it was. I have seen “the Catlans” mentioned a couple of times also and assume they are brom growers / sellers …

Anyway, this NOID is a large brom, approx 50 cm across at its’ widest point. Maybe someone can give it a name. It has lost some of its’ colour since I purchased it.

The shadehouse is a work in progress and will be for a while yet. It’s steel framed and after removing the old shadecloth, we found a fair bit of rust. So, if anyone can tell me the name of a rust killer we can use that wont end up killing the broms, please let me know that too.

Thanks again, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 6, 2012
11:52 AM

Post #8996809

Good morning everyone,

Well I put in a very boring day yesterday at a committee meeting where we had to review and update our Brom Society constitution and this morning I think I am still suffering from “brain drain”.

Colleen – It seems like everything is starting to fit into place for you and at least you seem to be working to a plan and sticking to it which is more than I can claim to do. I start off with good intentions and see a plant that needs attention and then away I go on yet another side-track. I think you’ll be more than happy with the effect of your mesh wall when it’s finished and I’m sure we’re all looking forward to pic’s of the finished product.

Karen – That’s a nice little lot of mini’s you manage to get onto. They didn’t seem very popular down here for a long time but now everyone’s going mad for them and can’t get enough. Unfortunately there’s never any at our markets and not many growers have any to spare either. There was a nice pot full of a little yellow coloured NOID mini on the sales table last weekend at our meeting for $5 but unfortunately I already had it.

Shirley – I’ve only been collecting for about 12 years now and I do have a “much too large collection” which is due not so much to buying, but mainly by swapping and growing from my own seed. As for the number, I would have to say it’s impossible to count as I have thousands of seedlings from “tiny” right through to flowering size. But to give a ball park figure of adult plants (not counting the seedlings) I would say it would be easily about 500 - 1000.

Don’t feel that joining a brom society is confrontational; people in societies welcome new members and go out of their way to help them with their hobby of collecting brom’s, and the things you learn there are never ending. The most important thing though, is that the info. you get is from people in your own area and growing under similar conditions to you.

As for the lichen on your old shade cloth, you could try a bit of household bleach brushed on and just left in the sun for a day or so and then hosed off. If that doesn’t work it looks like a job for a gurney. I know of a grower on another forum who used a gurney on the same problem while the shade cloth was still on her tunnel house and the results were unbelievable.

As Tash says, we all have NOIDS in our collections, so don’t be worried about putting up pic’s for someone to identify. This happens from buying unnamed plants or losing the labels out of the pots or as in my case, having them stolen by Bower Birds. For some reason our local Bower Birds have taken a liking to plastic name tags as well as my wife’s blue clothes pegs. The result being that I have to make my name tags out of re-cycled aluminium venetian blind slats, that’s the only way I can stop them. Two years ago I repotted all of my orlandianas and I had about ten different varieties; two days later all the name tags were gone, however I did find them in next doors back garden in the Bower Bird’s bower. I’m still trying to get those plants all named again which because of the similarity of colours and the fact that the colours change, is pretty difficult.

Tash – Sorry to hear you fried some of your seedlings; I guess its all part of that big learning curve. We’ve all had our problems with them overheating and being flooded, but eventually you’ll get the right spot and then you’ll have seedling growing out of your ears. I’ll get a bit more seed in the mail to you this week as I wouldn’t like to see you lose interest just because of a little setback like cooking a few. I love your big orange “Blanchie”, I think it’s a “ripper”.

Karen – That’s a very nice Billbergia you’ve managed to get hold of. I like the patterned types as well, as you have the colour all the year around; the flowers are an added bonus. To get the best colour you need to grown them in good light and DON’T feed them with a high nitrogen fertilizer.

Wendy – I have to agree with everything you’ve said, especially your experiences with the treated timber as I had exactly the same thing happen to me as have quite a few in our brom society. Some time back I wrote a short article about it for our Society News Letter to help people from falling in the same trap as I had, and if anyone would like a copy just email me as I’m only too happy to share it around. I don’t think there’s anything more heart breaking to a brom grower than to find a whole row of plants rotted out because of copper residue from treated timber dripping on them.

I’ll certainly be looking forward to the “courier lady” coming this week with your box of “goodies”.

Karen – The Titan Arum is certainly a spectacular plant, but I don’t think I’ll ever forget the stink of the one I saw I Bali. It just seemed to invade my nasal passages for hours after I first smelt it.

Kristi - I control scale with a product called “Clensel”, but I don’t know if it’s available in the US. Another good one which is probably on the lower end of the “dangerous to humans” list is “Confidor” which is a Bayer product marketed by Yates, See below:

Bayer Confidor Insecticide - Ready to use
Controls aphids, mealy bugs, scale, thrips, whitefly and other sucking insects on ornamentals, roses and vegetables. Confidor belongs to a new chemical group, so it is excellent to use in a spray programme with other insecticides, as it controls pests resistant to older formulations.
Features
• Systemic action – absorbed through the foliage and moves throughout the plant to control insect pests – works from the inside out.
• Good for spot treatment of pests.
• Low toxic, water based formulation.
• Easy to use trigger pack – no mixing required, no mess.
How It Works
Systemic insecticide which targets sucking insects.
Ingredients
Active Constituent: 0.125 g/L IMIDACLOPRID

Shirley – I’m almost certain that your plant is a very nicely grown example of Neo concentrica or at the very least a “look-a-like“hybrid from it. Concentrica is a species and has been used successfully many times as an exceptional parent when breeding. It’s certainly one of my all time favourites and one which I think should be in every collection.

As for your rust problem, first treat the rusted areas with a “rust converter” as per instructions. It’s not very expensive and available in most paint shops. Once treated you can then paint it with “Galmet Cold Galvanizing”. If you just Google “Galmet Cold Galvanizing” there is a PDF document that explains all about it. It’s easy to apply and a good reliable product I’ve used many times with good results.

All the best, Nev.

A few shots of the garden after the rain

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shellharbour
Australia

February 6, 2012
11:55 AM

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...and another...

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shellharbour
Australia

February 6, 2012
11:58 AM

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.. and a couple more

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shellharbour
Australia

February 6, 2012
12:05 PM

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shellharbour
Australia

February 6, 2012
12:09 PM

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...and just one more, Billbergias patiently awaiting repotting.

Is it just me or is this site so frustratingly slooooow to load pictures?

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 6, 2012
1:38 PM

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Hi everyone. So much going on. Nev, your pics are sooooo inspiring. Keep them coming please. Yes they do take a while to upload onto DG if you don't downsize them first. Don't ask me how to downsize though. I have been shown so many times but it just goes into one ear and out the other. My brain just says, " you've got time to wait" [for the pics to upload " so that's the way I keep doing it. Have just ordered some really NICE Vrieseas. Will show you all when they arrive. It's a secret til then. lol Weedwoman has some more broms for sale on FB if anyone hasn't seen them. She has really nice plants too. Shirley you can't go wrong if you get the people on here to sell you plants. Wendy, Nev, Weedwoman [Sue], and Jen I think will all be happy to assist you as you get addicted. I'm living proof of that. They really are a beautiful plant and quite easy to care for. That's what I like about them. Have the watering system done in my front garden now. That will make it a lot easier for me. The plumber will be back Wednesday to do the tanks and the back garden. Must go be back later. Colleen

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shellharbour
Australia

February 6, 2012
8:25 PM

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No one told me about that, I'll try downsizing one and see.

Neo Gold Fever

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shellharbour
Australia

February 6, 2012
8:27 PM

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Well, well, well! It is much faster, thanks for the tip Colleen, One more and it's back to work.

Neo Gold Fever Too

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barmera
Australia

February 6, 2012
9:39 PM

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That didn't work did it? lol Will try again. Colleen

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barmera
Australia

February 6, 2012
9:46 PM

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Ahhh. That's better. I lost the first pic though, so don't want to do that again. Colleen

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springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 6, 2012
10:25 PM

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Hi everyone, wow gotta keep up with the posts, lol.
Thanks so much Wendy, can't wait for Friday, that's when it should get here.
Amazing photos Karen, really appreciate you sharing them, gee it must develop a lot seed in there. wow.
Thanks Nev, I'd love a bit more seed to play with, the neo's seem to have come through okay, it's just them finicky Vrieseas that I so want to grow, lol. I hope the new set up will keep them happy, just not sure if it will be ideal in winter?? pfftttt, why can't that sun just stay still! lol.
I would love to get my fingers on some of that fancy NZ vriesea seed, but I can't see that happening. Hopefully someone will be able to go over to cool Broms next year and import some stunning one back here, I would love to go, but can't see that happening.
Great pics Nev, you have so many beautiful broms!
Yeah reducing the size of the file makes the upload faster, but I often don't bother just cause I'm slack, and by the time I reduce them and then upload them, it takes about the same time. But having said that, there are some of mine that won't upload at all! Too Big. My camera is a 14 megapixels and sometimes the files are just too big.
Well nothing much to report here, it's hot and blahhhhhhhhhhh.

Tash

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 7, 2012
3:25 AM

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Wow ... 5 photos ...

Somewhere out there in cyberspace are photos of 5 more of my unnamed broms. Just had a quick look in and only had a few minutes to post so quickly added 5 photos to drive you all crazy ... and after waiting forever to preview the post, the whole thing disappeared. Anyway, I might come back and try again later.

Shirley

DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 7, 2012
3:42 AM

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I am so pleased we can now upload up to 5 pics in one post. Will make such a difference, especially with comparison photos able to be in one post.

Question. Is there such a plant as Neoregelia "My Favourite"? I saw one named that on Monday, and it is absolutely stunning! But I can't find anything on the web by that name. And like a dill, I didn't take a pic of it while I was there. I want to start a wish list with pics, and that one is a definite contender.

Karen

Bill. Moon Tiger (seedling)
Bill. Sixpence (seedling) very different to the last one I got.
Bill. Champagne Charlie (seedling) also very different to the last one I got.
Bill. Rocky Road (seedling) very different to my red one.

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 7, 2012
6:01 AM

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Hi, me again

My second attempt at posting with 5 attached photos also disappeared as did my third. It might be timing out as it takes a very long time to upload. I will have to try to downsize the photos as you suggested, Colleen ... but not tonight.

Maybe my earlier posts will turn up at some time in the future and then I will look like a read idiot ... repeating myself again and again.

Anyway, thanks Nev for the ID on the concentrica, thats my neo no. 1. Since I have quite a few without names I identify them by numbers so that I can keep track.

After I took the photos today to put on the forum, I compared them to the photos I had taken of the same broms at time of purchase ... I really have to get them into more light asap. The difference with some of them is quite striking, I knew they were losing colour but had no idea of the degree of change. Seeing them on a daily basis it's less noticeable but comparing photos from when I bought them and now ... a bit depressing really. Please assure me that when they do get into better light they will get their lovely colour back!!!

re the shadecloth ... we tried brooming and brushing and ended up draging out the gurney to clean it up. We are going to replace the old cloth with new but what I am wondering is whether we can do something to stop the lichen (or whatever) from growing on the new stuff ... maybe an occasional spray with fungicide or something ???

Anyway I will have another attempt at uploading just one of my NOID photos and then I had better get off to bed or I'll never get up in the morning

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 7, 2012
12:59 PM

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Hi everyone,

Colleen – I don’t know how you did that, maybe altered the sizes in the wrong box?

I’d like to draw everyone’s attention to the pic of the little Nidularium in the front left of your picture. For anyone one who’s not familiar with it, the Name is Nidularium campos-portoi and it is a species from Brazil. It is a reasonably small plant which is easy to grow but it is different to most other Nidulariums as the colour just appears on the tips of the leave. It produces pups readily on the end of stolons and these pups are ideal for mounting on trees as they can easily be attached simply by hammering a staple or two over the stolen and into the tree to hold them firmly.

Shirley – Yes, I’ve found that DG sometimes “eats” our posts while we are preparing them or sending them. Those of us that have been caught before usually save our message as we go or in my case I do it on MS Word initially and then cut and paste, it’s then I attach the pic’s. If they get lost I still have the message and can easily try again. So keep trying!

Karen - You’ll definitely have to tell us all how you loaded those four pic’s. It will certainly save us all a lot of time and we’ll all see more pic’s.

As for the plant you ask about; there is one registered as “My Favourite Things” but not just “My Favourite”, but that’s not to say there isn’t one around called “My Favourite”, as not all hybridizers chose to register their plants and there are probably many more hybridizers in this category than there are in the ones who register. Also people often give their NOIDS a “pet name” and that seems to “stick” and get spread around every time the plant is sold or swapped. Sometimes it’s possible to track down the source by working backwards from the person who owned the plant and where they got it from.

Shirley – Brom’s and light; it’s a very topical subject, and yes light does play a very important part in the colour. I have found it is much easier to lose the colour by moving plants to a lower light area than it is to get the colour back by moving them back to a high light area. Sometimes it works for me and sometimes it doesn’t, but it’s a much slower process. Usually when I re-pot plants I put them on the floor of the vriesea and Guzmania shade house (which is lower light than the others) to let them settle in a bit before they are taken to their permanent home. Sometimes (very often) I get side tracked with another job and they are overlooked and the weeks drag on before I get around to re-locating them and by that time the colour is gone.

I can’t help you with a preventative for the lichen re-growth while the shade cloth is still on the roof except to suggest that maybe regular hosing would prevent it from re-growing. I don’t know if a fungicide will kill it and I think that any specific “killer” you spray to kill the lichen would probably harm the brom’s below as well. There are products to kill and prevent re-growth and you would need to do a search on “Google” to locate them; either that or speak with the horticulturalist at your local nursery or Bunnings, but make sure you tell them that it’s on shade cloth above other plants and question whether or not it would harm these other plants.

That’s about it for now but first a few random pic's I took after the rain.

All the best, Nev.

Vr. Red Chestnut

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shellharbour
Australia

February 7, 2012
1:02 PM

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Neo. concentrica x Rosea Striata
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shellharbour
Australia

February 7, 2012
1:04 PM

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Neo concentrica x Painted Lady

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shellharbour
Australia

February 7, 2012
1:05 PM

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Nidularium NOID

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shellharbour
Australia

February 7, 2012
1:06 PM

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Vr Hieroglyphica

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 7, 2012
1:25 PM

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Hi everyone. Nev you're getting a lovely lot of Vrieseas there now. Are you going to breed with them? Hey Nev you missed the 5pics in one option. After you put the first pic up there'll be another chance to put the next one , then the same for the next 3. I think it's wonderful. All those pics that have just been sitting there waiting in line to be put up will get shown sooner. It is also great for side by side shots to show differences in plants. Well the back garden gets the new watering system today. Tanks will go in and then I pray for rain to fill them. Colleen

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springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 7, 2012
1:58 PM

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Hi Everyone, wow I had no idea we can upload more than one photo now, yipeee. Pity I don't have new ones to share yet, lol. Have some packages coming this week though, he he he.
Yeah Shirley it's frustrating when the upload doesn't work, and be warned that sometimes your whole post can vanish, we have all had that happen and that is really annoying. Nev always recommends writing your post in something like Microsoft Word and then copying it into here, so if it vanishes in here, you still have it sitting there in your word document.
I get lazy and just write straight into here, then it happens again and I lose a whole post and I kick myself and go back to using word again, lol.
I can't help with that particular ID I'm not good at too many ID's yet and not red spotty ones, lol. There are so many of them. But keep adding them and you might get some named. :)
Nice Bills Karen, well done :)
I got a nice new one yesterday called Neo On Target.
Also last night on Facebook there was a big discussion going on the "anna" series. There are a lot of Anna followed by a number, Neo's out there that apparently did get named. I did a lot of leg work on this months ago to try and find what my Neo Anna 63 is, as I had heard a lot of them did get named. I got no where with my research last time but now a bit of a list is being put together,, I'll cut and paste the doc that has been started from Planet Bromeliad on Facebook.

Catlan Anna series
Anna #1 Mad Max (FCBS/BCR)
Anna #5 = Hyperball (FCBS/BCR)
Anna #10 = Wonder of Wonders (FCBS/BCR)
Sport of #38 = Absolutely Fabulous (FCBS/BCR)
Anna #40 = Hot Gossip (FCBS/BCR)
Anna #63 = Jaws Too

Pedro, (Peter Tristram) also commented that " Hyperball = Heck as far as I remember" and "Neo Milagro, which looks just like Garnish which looks just like Wild Gossip, which = Anna 39 from memory."

This might help some people with the Anna type neos.

My dispute or confusion that I raised with this, is that I have Anna 63 which is supposed to = Jaws Too, but it's not. And someone else put up a photo of there Anna 63 which was much like mine and agreed it's NOT Jaws Too. Also when you go to the BCR site there are 3 photos of Jaws Too, and the first one is apparently WRONG. the first one is the reverse colours. Jaws Too is albomarginated (white on the outer edge of the leaf) and green in the middle, where as the first photo looks more like "Yang" which is the reverse, green on the edge and white in the middle... more like Anna 63 in my humble opinion.
Phew what a mouthful.

well just tried 4 photos... didn't work, doh!!! Lucky I did copy this post, lol. Or I would of lost it.

Try again... smaller files coming up...

Ok so far we have made it to the preview step... so First pic is Neo Jaws Too, then Jaws, then Neo Yin and finally Neo Anna 63.
First three all so similar, last one is opposite.

Hope it works when I hit send...

Tash

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 7, 2012
3:06 PM

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Fantastic pics everyone. This is great to see.

For those having problems uploading their pics, you do need to make them smaller as, for example, my originals are like over 4 megabytes each! This is huge, and even an email would have trouble sending them. As there are so many programs for resizing, I can't help there, but try this before you try anything else.

Right click on your photo, and see what comes up in the box. I have the option in mine to Resize photo, I click on that, then get the option of small, medium or large. Small is the size I use mostly. This is a little extra built into my computer, but you might have it too as part of your program. Its worth a try.

Karen
perke_patch

February 8, 2012
3:48 AM

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Hi everyone. isn't it good to see so many new ones joining in on this forum. I like DG ... it feels like a more select group of friends rather than the open slather of FB.
Kristi we use a product called rogor to stop grasshoppers and scale. We have enough broms to make it up in a very large commercial sprayer that was given to us by a pest control man when he retired from the business. Hubby fills it about 6 times or more to spray our whole collection. We also keep spray can of it for one off plants we discover with a bit of scale between sprays.

Well we went down to Gold Coast today and found the task we went for was finished by lunchtime so we went to Southport spit for a spot of lunch before returning to Brisbane. We planned to call in on Catlans on way home however. ... as we passed Seaworld we thought as we had purchased VIP passes which last till end of June and we hadn't used them yet we would call in and stay for an hour or so. We probably spent that long in the shark bay watching the fish, sharks and corals etc. It was amazing. we kept going downstairs to underwater viewing then back up to look down into water then back downstairs again. I got so many photos and videos. We also spent a bit of time in large penguin area. Those guys know how to pose for the pics. Whenever someone held up a camera 3 or 4 of them would move to that section of the window and look strait at the camera. Then there was a bunch of fat ones who just stood on a rocky section and didn't move. We wondered why until one lifted up her tummy to show us her egg. We then realised they all had that pouch which sat on the ground at their feet and obviously were keeping the eggs warm. We kept going back to the polar bear enclosure but they just weren't being cooperative today. Sometimes there would be one out on the rocks but as soon as we got downstairs to view they would go up on the top of the rocks so we would walk back out to top and it would go back inside for a rest. never saw one in the water.
Anyway Johnny suggested we go on the rides. Yes I was amazed at that suggestion too LOL. Anyway first we went on the vikings revenge flume ride. Johnny said if we sat towards the back we wouldn't get splashed by the water. He lied. I was in front of him and we got very wet but it was so much fun. Can't wait to take the grandkids on that one. Then he wanted to go on the Viper rollercoaster. I thought he would change his mind when we got closer but there was no lineup at all so suddenly we were at the gate but they held us back for next group so we watched the previous group go round. There was only 4 of us in line so we had the pick of the seats. We opted not to sit in the very front row and offered that to the young foreign couple behind us. But a lot of them getting off ran round and got straight back on. They told Johnny to take his hat off but he said he nearly lost his teeth instead. They told us to keep our heads pressed back to the head rest but how do you do that when it throws you from side to side (my ears will never forgive me for the bashing on the side of that headrest) then flips you completely upside down not once but several times. Then when it gets back to platform it stops so suddenly that you are thrown forward. It was then I realised I had my eyes shut for most of it so now I have to go again to see what I missed LOL.
Anyway it was such a really lovely day and we can go back again and again with that VIP pass.
Oh and I didn't see any bromeliads growing in their extensive gardens. They looked lovely but lacked that one element.



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February 8, 2012
4:31 AM

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sorry next post disappeared along with the 5 pics. That lost pic shows the mother penguins just behind the poser. Those ones on the rocks were the ones with the eggs under their sagging bellies. One was kind enough to pic up her tummy to show us her egg. They obviously love the interaction and attention from the public.

This pic is in the dolphin nursery. They are young dolphins who are learning to throw the ball to the public. Sometimes they got it right and someone could catch the ball and throw it back but sometimes it just hit the rocks and went back in the water. They would launch themselves right up onto the rocks so people could reach down and pat their noses. They were so friendly, spitting or flicking water at us and looking up and making noises like they were talking to us.

Best day ever and we will definatley go back again.

Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 8, 2012
12:10 PM

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Hi everyone,

I was sitting quietly having a “cuppa” yesterday morning when there was a soft knock on the door. By the time I had got to the door and opened it, there was no one there but there were three cardboard boxes, one of which was very large and quite heavy. Yes, you’ve guessed it, they all contained brom’s which were swaps from some of my forum “brom mates” and had obviously been delivered by my courier lady. These were all swaps I had arranged, but never expected them to all turn up at the same time as they were from three different states.

Well it was a bit like Christmas with these boxes to open and not remembering what I had swapped, but by the time I had unpacked them all, I had a nice assortment of Neoregelias, Nidulariums, Billbergias, and a couple of little Orthophytums; my swaps had turned into quite a nice little collection.

Straight away I gave them “the treatment” which I give all plants as soon as I receive them in the post and it’s probably a tip worth passing on as it was passed on to me a few years back by a prominent brom grower who is often mentioned on these forums. Apparently he’s used it for many years and right back to when he would get orchids through the post and the mail was much slower than it is now.

Some plants arrive in good condition, others arrive a bit knocked around; this is all reflective of the way they were packed in the first place and the way they are handled in transit. No matter what their condition, they are all suffering from a greater or lesser degree of dehydration and in need of a “pick-me-up”.

I provide this in the form of a cup of raw sugar dissolved in a bucket of water. I then stand the plants in a polystyrene broccoli box, pour this mixture into the cups and the bottom of the box. I then give them a good all over spray with the hose and they are left to stand in this for up to 12 hours depending on their condition. It’s surprising just how well this helps them to bounce back; even vrieseas which have been wrapped up and the leaves cramped in unnatural positions will quickly regain their shape again and “spread their wings” so to speak. Give it a try next time you receive plants through the post.

Colleen – Yes I do have a few nice vrieseas, but I don’t have any intention of breeding with them myself as I only have space for Neoregelias which are my favourites. I’ll sometimes fertilise the vrieseas with pollen that’s sent to me by other growers if I think there’s a possibility of something good being produced, but I’ll share the seed around among my friends and let them take it from there. All I have to do now is study this new “thingy” that will let me post more than one pic at a time and learn how to use it.

Tash – Yes, after having lost a few posts (eaten up by DG and sent into cyber space never to be seen again) I usually now do everything in MS Word first. I know this probably seems like extra work, but when you type as slowly as I do, it's time well spent.

Good luck with trying to sort out the “Anna” dilemma, but I think it’s just so mixed up now with names registered from Australia and others from overseas and plants which have long been circulating with incorrect identities that it’s nearly impossible to sort out.

I think I once told you of my thoughts about the naming process and the way the BCR operates, and nothing has changed, nor will it ever change, because some hybridizers refuse to register plants and just release them with an unregistered name while other growers will continue to give NOIDS their own pet names, (again unregistered). Then there's some of the big professionals who mass produce plants by tissue culture (in their thousands) and flood the country with identical plants with just the same generic name of “Bromeliad” on the label which further adds to the confusion, as this encourages people to give these plants their own name (all different again) as well. Plus you have some nurseries who will even change a correctly registered name to something sounding more attractive to the purchasing public just to make more sales. Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah.

Karen – Thanks for the resizing advice, I’ll give it a try when I finish this, but I don’t hold out much hope, because if something can be stuffed up, I’m usually the one to do it!

Wendy – Yes Rogor, along with a few others are very effective sprays as long as you know what you’re doing and have all the correct protective gear as it is also very toxic to humans and animals. It is a personal choice based on experience and knowledge of the product and adhering strictly to the safety instructions. I recommended Confidor as it’s on the lower end of the toxic scale and does the same job. I went to a recent “workshop” held by Bunnings and one of the topics was insecticides, fungicides and weedicide. The sales rep from each company did his presentation and they all recommended Confidor as the safest for the average gardener, even though not all the companies they represented made it.

Two areas of advice when using any of these “systemic” products; remember “systemic” means it’s absorbed into the plant’s system and very effectively works from the inside against bugs that suck the sap; but it can also be absorbed into your system and poison you if you don’t use the correct protective equipment. The other very important point is to ALWAYS THOROUGHLY READ THE INSTRUCTIONS - ESPECIALLY THE BIT ABOUT SKIN CONTACT OR INGESTION - MOST IMPORTANTLY READ THE RECOMMENDED FIRST AID TREATMENT IN THE EVENT OF ACCIDENTAL CONTAMINATION.

Wendy it sounds like you and Johnny were like a couple of kids again, gee I wish I could have been there too as I loved roller coasters and haven’t been on one since I was at Expo in Brisbane many years ago. That one was probably a bit tame by some of today’s ones but I remember my daughter’s friend was sitting beside me and I still carry the scars of her finger nails on my left arm today. The main thing I wasn’t prepared for was when it finished, it continued past the station and kept going, up, up, up to the top of a pretty high slope and then returned backwards down and around a corner and into the station. I, like everyone else was disoriented and leaning the wrong way when it was going backwards and it was certainly something different. I have fond memories of SeaWorld as well as we went there probably about forty years ago with all of our three kids and had a great day as part the most wonderful holiday we had ever had. It seems like you both had a great day and got some great pic’s as well, thanks for sharing and bringing back some wonderful memories for me.

Well here goes, time to try the new picture thing.

All the best, Nev.

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shellharbour
Australia

February 8, 2012
12:24 PM

Post #8999358

Well I'm back and feeling pretty proud of myself, I got it first time!

I did forget to add the names however and you must remember these were all random shots and the plants hadn't been prepared or cleaned so I apologise for the dust and cobwebs on some.

The first pic is of a Billbergia seedling called Bill. Fred Red x Hallelujah; Second is Neoregelia Hannibal Lector, this is one you either love or hate, and I hate the prickly bloody thing! Third is the beautiful Nidularium Madonna and the last one is a group of Vrieseas with hieroglyphica on the left of two of my different (supposedly) Vriesea Red Chestnuts.

Well that's about it, I'll be back again in the morning all going well.

All the best, Nev.
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 8, 2012
12:53 PM

Post #8999419

Good going Nev. The pics look great, and you did it. Must be exciting to get all those broms in one day. I got one parcel yesterday, a mini neo. called Buccaneer. I'm excited getting that one. Do you have Lilliputiana, the miniature neo? I have a tiny pup ready to go if you don't. Its just a single pup, as the plant is still small, and seems to be slow to grow.

Will have to spend some time potting up my billbergias today. I'll run out of pots though. The rest will have to wait until the weekend when I can get some more.

Wendy, I've never been there, but wow it sounds like you had a great time. As for the rides though, I'd probably throw up. Travel sickness has been part of my life since the day I was born, and I don't think those rides would be much fun for me. Must ask Barry if he's ever been. Never thought to before.

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 8, 2012
7:37 PM

Post #8999851

Hi everyone, yaaaa I got two lovely brom boxes today, yipeeeee. Love getting broms in the mail.
Wendy thanks so much for the Painted Delight, it was cheaper than the one I originally had and already has more colour, so I am very happy with it, thanks so much :)
The other box was from a someone in our Facebook brom group and they are just stunning too! Very happy, all arrived in fantastic condition and all are lovely broms.
I have them soaking :)
Wendy it sounds like you and Johnny had a ball, definitely sound like a pair of kids, so glad you had so much fun.
Yup Nev, I'm not about to worry myself with the Anna stuff, anyone who wants to tell me Anna 63 is Jaws Too, I will just look sideways at. LOL
I personally have some very spirited opinions about the whole registry of brom names, can't say I agree with how it's done. Too many plants that look way too similar to me and too many that get added with unknown parentage, which to me is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. My opinion is probably a hard one and very black and while one, but in my opinion... no lineage... no registration! At least a seed parent should be given, I can totally understand the pollen parent being unknown. And yes there are times when the seed parent might be a NOID so it might be truly unknown lineage, but then I still think it shouldn't be registered. You can't register a litter of puppies without all the lineage... no matter how nice they are! Or perhaps there is a better method allowing for NOID's to be used, as some are stunning, but just plainly saying unknown parentage, should not be allowed in my opinion, it just allows hybridisers to pretend they don't know what it is, or claim to own something they don't, or just not give the lineage for fear of someone trying to copy.
Anyway enough of that, see you got me going Nev, lol.
Well we had a power cut from 4 til 9 last night, bliming heck it was hot and yukky. I went and brought a thermometer today when I went to the post office, and I have it sitting at my desk... 35 degrees C inside at my desk, blukkkkkkkkk.
Ok I had better go, will post some pics of the newbies later,
Tash
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 9, 2012
5:03 AM

Post #9000073

Sounds like y'all have had another fine day. I always admire the photos and a trip to seaworld sounds delightful ~ although I could do without the rides. I almost got dizzy reading Wendys' description! Never could stand that.

Thanks Wendy and Nev for the answer on the scale spray. I had just finished reading up on it when Nev posted further information. I am sure that is a task when you folks have that many Broms.

I like being able to post a series of photos but it does make it difficult to ID specific photos in the series. Nev, congratulations on sending them without a problem. You mentioned receiving a couple of Orthophytums... do you know which ones?

If no one minds, I'd like to try the series photos with a few Orthophytums I have recently acquired. They are rather plain after looking at the beautiful colors on everyones' Bromeliads.

In order, O. brown turkey ~ O. guerkenii ~ O. copper penny ~ O. Warren Loose ~ O. saxicola

Please say the word if you think any are misnamed. Kristi

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 9, 2012
12:49 PM

Post #9000647

Great that new plants are adding to our collections. Tash, looking forward to seeing your newbies too. Kristi, I know nothing about Orthophytums, but these look fine to me. First and fourth look sort of furry?

I ran out of pots, as I expected, so am trying to be patient for the weekend so I can get some more. I've got larger pots, but need smaller ones for the billbergias. Still haven't finished dividing some plants either. No excuse there, they need the larger pots.

Feeling a bit out of focus this morning so will come back later when/if my head clears.

Karen
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 9, 2012
12:59 PM

Post #9000654

Good morning everyone,

Well the rain's back again, it’s been pouring all night, really bucketing down. It looks like I’ll set myself up in the garage today and get a bit more potting done. I potted up all the new arrivals yesterday and made the long overdue start on the Billbergias.

Karen – I had a problem with travel sickness for many years until a friend who goes out in the ocean fishing told me about AVIL Tablets. They are made as an antihistamine but are a very effective treatment against travel sickness also and since using them, no more problems.

Tash – Seems like a bit of my whinge about the “plant naming “process has rubbed off on you also. I just don’t bother about it anymore. Any seedlings I sell or swap that are unregistered are sold with the formula name and not the name I give them for my own identification. As for other plants, well anyone who has purchased or swapped plants from my list will have seen the following disclaimer:

“All of my plants carry the names which I purchased them under and may not all be correct, as often growers give plants their ‘pet names’ when the true names are unknown. However to minimise confusion if you select a plant where there is doubt about the name being correct, I can take a picture and send it to you so that you know exactly what you are purchasing/swapping”.

I also once bought a thermometer for the shade house so I could keep track of temperatures and work out at just which temperature these plants grow at their best. I think I’ve probably looked at it only once or twice in the five years I’ve has it. I have worked out that if I feel comfortable with the temperature and humidity, so do my plants. If I don’t, the plants don’t either, it’s that simple. Anyway, what can I do about the temperature and humidity anyway? I’m certainly not going to build an expensive temperature controlled green house. Firstly, I couldn’t afford such a luxury and secondly if my plants were growing under those conditions, I couldn’t say I grew them then, the temperature controlled environment grew them for me, so where’s the challenge in that?

Wendy – Your plants arrived here safely and I love the little Orthophytums, especially the variegated one. What were the other two (the same) that also were small but with much thicker foliage, were they Orthophytums also?

Kristi – Thanks for sharing the pic’s of your Orthophytums with us, as for the ones I got from Wendy, one had Orthophytum var on the name which I took to mean “variegated” as it was a variegated plant and the other was a NOID ?, either that or I've lost the tag. I don’t have too many of these, just those ones and saxicola and another I don’t remember the name of at the present.

I saw a pic of one several years ago and I think it is a most attractive plant which I would love to have in my collection, but no one seems to have it. The name is Orthophytum humile and it is a species. I copied a picture out of a magazine once which I’ll attach for everyone to see. If anyone knows where I can get it, please let me know.

Well I’ll go and see if I can find a few more pic’s to post and then go and have breakfast and get an early start on the re-potting. I’ll see you all again tomorrow hopefully. [By the way I left a name out on one of yesterdays pic’s, it was the 4th in the group and it is Neoregelia ‘Midnight Moment’]

All the best, Nev.

First pic is Orthophytum humile, 2nd. Nidularium Ruby Lee, 3rd. Neoregelia ‘Powder Puff’, 4th Neoregelia concentrica x Painted Lady [sport], 5th Vriesea ‘Megan’

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 9, 2012
3:33 PM

Post #9000827

Hi, just a quick hello to let you know I'm still around. Just been really busy ... mostly appointments and boring stuff and not achieving much at home. I will add a photo of a couple more of my unnamed neos ... if anyone can give them a name that would be great.

I am absolutely in awe of everyone elses brom collections !!!

Bye for now, Shirley

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 9, 2012
5:57 PM

Post #9001000

Karen, hoping you are feeling better by now. Interesting comment on the furry Orthophytums. The leaves are textured and look matted. There are a couple of spots on the fourth plants' leaves that are smooth but I have no idea why.

Nev ~ your Orthophytum humile is absolutely lovely and I can see why you have desired it for years. That is one we would all admire. Thanks for sharing the photo.

And again, I am drawn to your fifth photo the Vriesea ~ Megan. Is it a large plant?

Shirley, I agree about being in awe of these amazing collections! Kristi
perke_patch

February 10, 2012
4:43 AM

Post #9001407

Hi all.
Just to let you know both Johnny and I have had sore necks and headaches since we went to Seaworld. I don't think our heads were meant to go flying like they did on that rollercoaster. Our kids can't even believe that we went on that viper ride. I can't believe Johnny suggested it let alone went on it. Won't be doing it again that's for sure.

We have a little guest for a sleepover tonight so I must get to bed early in case she is up early in the morning. I'm so tired all the time lately. Must be all the late nights on the computer.

Nev from memory i sent you 2 pieces of orthophytum vagans but one didn't show too much variegation. It might get more as it grows. The other one was in the same pot but I think we wrongly put it there when they were given to us. I will check the name on the other pot for you and post pics tomorrow night. I haven't taken pic of the other ones yet. These pics are of the orthophytums we have pics of... they are: o nova, o starlight, and o vagans

Wendy

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 10, 2012
5:08 AM

Post #9001427

Oh yes! I hope those colors on your Orthophytums are what I will have to look forward to this summer! I really like that last one. Very pretty. Kristi
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 10, 2012
12:22 PM

Post #9001927

Hi everyone,

Well it rained again yesterday and really hammered down again last night, but since I got up this morning it hasn’t rained again, nevertheless it looks like more re-potting today as well.

I don’t think I’ll be much help with the ID’s. I like the first plant and judging by the evidence of concentric rings on the leaves I would almost certainly say it is a concentrica hybrid, but apart from that I couldn’t say. The second one seems to me to have a little bit of Neo Olens about it and judging by the colour, I think if it’s grown in the maximum light it will accept without damage then it should colour up to almost yellow. They’re both nice plants and grown under the correct light conditions should both colour up nicely and perhaps you could post another pic somewhere down the track.
Kristi - My plant of Vriesea ‘Megan’ is only about 16”across which I guess you could say is “large” compared to some plants but it isn’t large when compared to other patterned leaf Vrieseas such as hieroglyphica which will sometimes get to a metre across.

Wendy – They’re nice looking little plants but my favourite is the variegated one in the last pic. I never used to like these succulent type brom’s but I must admit they have grown on mw ever since I say a pic of Orth. sucrei in an over-full basket, it was quite spectacular.

Today’s pic’s will be firstly the one of the Orth. Sucrei mentioned above followed by some of the marble throated Neoregelias.

Firstly Neo 'Allan's Marbles', then Neo. 'Marble Pink', next is Neo. 'Pink River' and finally Neo Ice White River'
All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 10, 2012
2:07 PM

Post #9002065

Ooh, I just found you can't remove pics once you've put them in to load even before you upload. Darn. Oh well, Bit of a double up, but here goes.

Some confusion. I had the first one named Ae. Orlandiana, and the small inset ring in in the second pic named Ae. Bert. Now I am wondering if I got the two names mixed up and on the wrong plants. Anyone know?

Overcast here today. Don't know if we'll get any rain though. Supposed to be going down the Coast tomorrow, so it had better be fine then.

Nev, some beautiful neos there. I particularly like Marble Pink. Do the Avil tablets make you sleepy? The ones I used to take knocked me off my feet and the trips were spoiled anyway. Might as well just not go. I'm good in cars now except on mountainous roads that wind and twist. Boats are a no-no.

Wendy, I hope you and Johnny are feeling a lot better this morning. Maybe you need a check up, as prolonged tiredness isn't right.

Hi Shirley and Kristi. And hi to other popping in.

Karen

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perke_patch

February 11, 2012
3:19 AM

Post #9002521

Hi all. We had a visitor last Sunday during our sale. They came back from holidays in Darwin and brought us a present. Not sure if I mentioned this or not but anyhow I have attached a pic of our present they brought us. Nev and Tash, I included pups in your parcels this week. Hope you found them. Nev I think I forgot to put your note in saying what I had included. SOrry if you were confused. The ananas pups were put in last minute.

Oops I don't have the option for uploading more than one pic. wonder what happened since yesterday?

Wendy

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 11, 2012
3:29 AM

Post #9002526

Wow, Wendy, is it normal for ananas to have so many pups at once?

Does anyone have a mini neo Purple Grape? I was wondering if anyone had a pup to spare? Otherwise, can anyone tell me if the pups of this plant are green or yellow (or anything else)? There is one on eBay, but the pup is so green, nothing at all like the mother plant pictured, and which has yellow pups. I'm not being picky, just confused.

Karen

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 11, 2012
4:03 AM

Post #9002531

Hello again …

Thanks again for the help with the IDs. Nev, I will try to remember to do as you suggest and post another pic of these broms down the track, but with my poor memory, chances aren’t real good. Thanks for the info on the “treatment” you give plants you receive in the mail. I received a few myself earlier that same day but had already ‘processed’ them before reading your post … next time I will give it a try for sure.

Colleen you mention buying plants from other forum members. Is there a site somewhere where members list plants they have for sale? Most of my recent purchases have been thru eBay … some of them good, others a bit disappointing.

Anyway, we plan to get up early and head off to the market tomorrow morning (if it’s not raining). I have purchased a few broms at the markets but these are often without names. I keep saying I won’t buy a plant without a name but then I see something I like and … another ‘nameless’ beauty !!!

I have moved my broms to another area but I’m not sure it’s a whole lot better than the last spot. I may have to move them out into the gardens till we get the shadehouse sorted.

I will attach “before” and “after” photos of a brom that was one of my favourites but which has lost most of its’ gorgeous colouring. It is another of my NOIDs and quite similar to one of the last lot I attached but with a more upright rosette. If anyone can ID it, that would be great. I did see one on eBay which looked very similar which was named ‘molten edge’.

I’ll sign off for now and get an early night … even though it’s raining at the moment and we probably won’t need to get an early start in the morning … oh well … the best laid plans etc etc.

Cheers, Shirley

PS Karen, I found I could load a second photo over the top of another one and this replaces the original. Love how you have split the photo ... looks great.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 11, 2012
1:27 PM

Post #9003105

Hi everyone,

Well it looks like a fine day (I did say “looks like”), I said the same yesterday but it was raining again by two o’clock.

I hope it doesn’t rain today though as we have the 40th Anniversary celebrations of the founding of The Illawarra Light Railway Museum Society (http://www.ilrms.com.au/) and we are presenting the two remaining founding members with a special plaque in appreciation for all the hours they have given over this period.

Karen – I found that when I loaded pictures by mistake I could just highlight the “code” (I don’t know if this is the right term) and just hit the delete button.

Whatever the names of your plants either orlandiana or Bert, I just love the dark “fingernails” on the tip of the leaves. Bert is a hybrid of orlandiana anyway (orlandiana x fosteriana) so that’s why it’s often mistaken for orlandiana; it carries similar markings.

The Avil tablets don’t make me sleepy but they do have that effect on some people. Probably best to just try half a tab and see what the reaction is.

Wendy – Well you’ve now solved that problem and I now know what the other pups were. I don’t know how they’ll grow down her but I’ll give them a go in the warmest spot I can find. Those pineapples are a bit unusual (for us down here anyway), I’ve never seen any that colour before. Is it called Ananas ‘rubra’ do you know?

I hope they haven’t taken that option of loading multiple pic’s away just when we were getting used to it, but I guess I’ll find out in a few minutes anyhow.

Karen – I’m sorry I can’t help you with your question about the pup of Purple Grape. I hadn’t even heard of it until you mentioned it, but when I looked it up, I found it is a hybrid of Neo ‘Fireball x ‘Granada’. I have one that is very similar but it still carries a formula name (‘Fireball x ‘Granada’) so maybe it was named after it was released under formula and mine is in fact Neo. 'Purple Grape' also?

As for the colour, there are three things you need to remember when buying plants from a photo on Ebay or anywhere else:

Firstly the photo may not be a true representation of the plant depending on what stage of its life the pic was taken.

If it is a pup of a coloured plant, it may still be uncoloured and just showing green until it’s mature

The picture can vary a great deal depending on many factors, e.g. The quality of the photo, film type or digital camera, where it was taken, the time of the day, the intensity of the light, the age of the plant etc will all have a vast bearing on the colour of the plant and how it appears in the picture. They say the camera doesn’t lie, but believe me it does, in fact it tells big “Porkies” sometimes!

Finally I would say that although buying pups is the least expensive way to buy plants, it does have its risks if you’re buying from someone you don’t know or haven’t dealt with before. Pups often look very similar when they’re young and usually are always green in colour and nothing like the plant they are supposed to be. I had a look at the pic’s on Ebay and I can certainly understand your confusion as the pup advertised is very different in colour to the one shown on the plant. The explanation may be that the pup on the purple coloured plant has been grown in strong light and the other pup is from a plant grown in low light or shade. The other thing is does any of your friends know the seller or have dealt with them before. I know that on “Face book”, Tash published a list of "preferred" brom sellers who were known and trusted, and if you’re reading this Tash, maybe you could post the list here as well please.

Shirley – As for buying plants from other members, yes there are other members from this site who sell and swap plants. It’s just a matter of asking for anyone who does to send you their list, (and hopefully it won’t be like mine and never up to date).

I know that Wendy, Sue and I sell plants by mail and possibly Tash and Jen also, so maybe this is another job for Tash now the kids are back to school, and she could compile a list for us all to use?

Sorry, I can’t ID your plant for you, but Neo ‘Molten Edge’ was a hybrid bred by Bob Larnach of Wyee NSW and does look very similar. I love the colour of the one on the left, which I assume is the plant on the right before you moved it to a new location? There are two main reasons why your plant could have lost its colour; firstly you have moved it to a more shady area than where it was previously grown or secondly, you have fertilized it with a “high nitrogen fertilizer”.

Finally, as mail order has been mentioned, I thought you may be interested in a short article I once wrote about brom’s and postage: (I hope it doesn’t overload DG and make it “self destruct”)

PREPARING PLANTS FOR TRANSPORT BY POST OR COURIER
N.Wood 2008

When collecting bromeliads most of us usually acquire them in either of the two most common ways; we swap them with other growers or buy them from the society’s sales tables, other local growers, markets, local nurseries or stores such as K Mart, Bunnings, Big W etc.

The problem with this is, eventually everyone finishes up with the similar types of plants, quite apart from the fact that plants purchased at the larger stores are usually unnamed.

There comes a stage when there is nothing different around to add to your collection and we then look to other avenues to purchase/swap something different.

As there are no specialist bromeliad nurseries in our local area this search takes us to mail order suppliers some distance from home and quite often interstate. They may be nurseries, they may be other growers who sell/swap plants or they may be on line sellers such as Ebay or similar.

Before placing an order always try and establish what sort of reputation the seller has. Are they well known? Do they have a good percentage rating for satisfaction if on line sellers? Do they come recommended by a friend who has previously dealt with them? Are they recommended by a particular bromeliad society?

Once we decide who we will purchase the plants from we need to know how we will get them. Unless we want to physically drive there to get our plants we usually have to rely on mail order and delivery by post or courier.

Most mail order nurseries are usually experienced in how to pack plants for posting, however due to the length of time in the package or the temperature (hot or cold) during the period they are wrapped up; when the plants arrive they will usually be suffering from a lesser or greater degree of stress.

To quickly alleviate this you need to be able provide the new plants with the correct treatment when you get them.

It also helps when initially ordering the plants to send some delivery instructions with your order. (These can be given to the courier) e.g. “If not at home leave on the porch beside the wall on the right”. The reason for this is that the wall on the left may get full afternoon sun and if they’re left there they will cook. These little instructions all help to minimise plant stress.

Pick them up if at the (Post Office) ASAP and follow the recommendations in step A

Step A
Unpacking plants:

1. Open box as soon as it arrives.

2. Be careful not to lose any loose notes or name tags which may have become detached and be in the box.

3. Carefully un-wrap plants being careful not to lose name tags which may have just been tucked between leaves.

**4. Bare-rooted plants will sometimes appear wrinkled and mis-shaped when first unpacked (like a butterfly when it first comes out of its cocoon) this is because they have been confined in an unnatural position and lost some of their fluid content due to dehydration. (No opportunity to absorb moisture from circulating air) This often happens no matter how carefully they were packed especially with softer leaved plants which suffer the most.

5. First, lay plants on a flat surface in the shade and give a good gentle hosing to completely wet the plants.

6. Take a cup of raw sugar and dissolve it in a bucket of tap water

7. Give plant/s a good dunking to ensure the leaves have been saturated with this liquid and that the well in the centre of the plant is full of the liquid also. Then stand upright in the bucket all day or even over night, occasionally re-dunking the whole plant again a couple of times throughout the day.

8. The next day, carefully examine the plants for insects or signs of disease and if apparent treat as required. If clean, then plant, pot or mount them and give a thorough watering and place in a shady location.

9. As a really good "pick-me-up" give a good drenching of “Seasol” following the mixing instructions for "stressed plants" or "transplanting"

10 Keep in the shade for a few days until plants have regained their original shape and then gradually acclimatise them to your conditions. (Not too much bright light at first)

When you’re selling or swapping plants and they have to be sent by post or courier, the way you initially prepare them for the trip will have a large impact of the condition in which they arrive at their destination.

To afford them the best chance of arriving in good condition, follow the recommendations in Step B.


Step B
Packing plants:

1. When preparing for post, I usually give the plants a good watering three days before removing them from the pot. Remove from the pot, clean and thoroughly wash the plants out the day before posting. Leave any bits of bark attached to the roots if it won't wash free. Allow to air dry overnight and whatever you do, don’t wrap wet plants!!! This will accentuate any damage caused by extreme heat or cold during transit as will wrapping them in plastic.

2. Wrap a little bit of foil around the root section or if it's an un-rooted pup, around the base where the cut was made. (This helps prevent dehydration if the plants are held up in transit). This rarely happens and I find if I send or receive plants by normal postage they are usually here in three or four days, even from far north Queensland.

3. When wrapping, don't use plastic wraps, use only sufficient newspaper to hold the plant firmly in position (one or two sheets) as too much will also drag moisture from the plant. If there are different size plants to be packed, protect the small ones in a cardboard cylinder. Depending on the size of the plant you can use the centre from a toilet paper roll or paper towel roll or Post Office tubes of different sizes.

4. Gently but firmly wrap plant so that the leaves are confined and don't spread too much, but not so firmly that they are folded or creased. ** See unpacking. 4.-10.

5. Tape name tag securely on the outside of the wrapped plant.

6. Use a box that is just large enough to contain the plant/s if possible, too large a box will allow the plant/s to move around and if handled roughly may result in damage. A box that is too large will also increase postage/freight charges, remember your postage/freight charges are based on the size of the box as well as weight.

7. Fill empty spaces with styro-foam packing biscuits or crumpled up newspaper to prevent plants from moving around in transit.

8. Seal box well so that it cannot pop open and lose the plants. Air holes are not really necessary but if they are already in the box they will do no harm.

9. Clearly mark the address on the top of the box and check that it is correct.

10. Clearly mark the sender's address on the side of the box (in smaller text).

11. Mark box on two sides to indicate it contains live plants the words "LIVE PLANTS" are sufficient.

12. Usually, post on Mondays only; as this will prevent unnecessary stop-overs in mail exchanges over weekends.

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Now some pic's: These are all my seedlings. The first is a xNiduregelia x ?, 2nd Neo Concentrica x [Charm x Craker Jack] 3rd Another Neo. Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack], 4th Neo. Painted Lady (sport) x Ferny Grove, 5th Neo. (Charm x Cracker Jack) x Self

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 11, 2012
3:38 PM

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Got a new Ae. Orlandiana 'pink form' and the last pic is a pup from my original one. I swapped the mother for the pink form.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 11, 2012
3:42 PM

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heres my Vriesea's...in full sun

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 11, 2012
9:11 PM

Post #9003611

Hi all,

OK ... second attempt … my first attempt at this post disappeared. I have now resized my photos and will try again.

Nev, thanks for the article on broms and postage and for the info on neo ‘molten edge’. Yes, the one on the left is the same one on the right, before moving it into too much shade.

Breeindy, I love your vrieseas … but I thought they needed to be in a shady spot. Looks like I had better plan on moving my vrieseas as well as the neos. I know most of the alcantareas like full sun and I have learned (by mistake) that neos like very good light. So am I right in thinking that guzmanias and nidulariums need more shade.

Anyway, we managed to get up early and head off to the market. There were less stallholders than normally and according to a couple of them, less buyers too. It was sooo HOT, I can understand sensible people staying away.

I bought a very pretty nidularium leprosa with a couple of nice pups (pic no 1), and a little fella, sold only as ‘some type of bromeliad’ which I am hoping someone can ID for me (pic no 2) as well as a nice alcantarea imperialis in a 10” pot which I thought was a steal at $15.00 (pics 3 and 4 – sorry about the inclusion of the toes). I almost bought an alcantarea extensa of similar size for the same price but had already purchased a few succulents and far exceeded the plant budget for the week.

It seems I am not over my “succulentitis” after all ... thought I had it under control after contracting “bromeliaditis”. The combination of the two will certainly cause a serious case of budget deficit-itis, not to mention bank strain.

I had better go now and find something to do in a nice cool spot. If any of these names incorrect, please let me know.

Thanks, Shirley

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 11, 2012
10:55 PM

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Hi everyone. It's great to see all the pics. They all look lovely together. I have a few of my own to put up. Nev, your a wealth of information. Love it. Shirley, maybe you can D-mail Wendy and see if she's close enough for you to visit her to have a look at what she has for sale. Lots I know. I also know that Nev has lots too so maybe D-mail him for his list and pics. You won't look back if you do. I am a good example of that, lol. Here's some pis. Colleen

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perke_patch

February 12, 2012
5:32 AM

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lost my message and pics. I'm going to bed.

Shirley if you are ever down Wellington Point way you will be welcome to call in and see our collection.

Wendy
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 12, 2012
5:35 AM

Post #9003744

Lovely pictures ~ Colleen I really like the looks of the hanging bromeliads on that last picture. Delightful jungle...

Nev Once again to have you share your knowledge and experience is appreciated. I would never have imagined using sugar to boost a plant. Thanks so much. I've received some broms that were poorly packed. I think I need to send those sellers a link to this thread.

Shirley ~ your ‘some type of bromeliad’ which I am hoping someone can ID for me (pic no 2) is an Orthophytum but I wouldn't presume to know which one. I have a soft spot for them as I too like succulents and they are similar. Yes, they are a brom. Great score on your plants too.

I just love the Vrieseas and Aechmea plants and Breeindys' photos reaffirm that feeling. Those are gorgeous!

Karen ~ I agree with Nevs' imformation on deleting photos if needed. Once the photo is sent tho, it is there to stay even if you delete your whole post.

Thanks all, I'm enjoying the brom talk and views. Off to check the greenhouse, we got down below freezing last nite outside. Kristi
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 12, 2012
12:00 PM

Post #9004147

Good morning everyone,

Well we had a nice day yesterday with sunshine all day until about four o’clock when the rain started again, but it wasn’t for long and I’m hopeful we’ll get a good day again today so I can get some more plants sorted out and re-potted.

Breeindy – That’s a nice collection of colour you’ve posted there. I especially like the nice dark Vriesea ospinae gruberi in the centre of the bottom row. I never knew there were so many different forms of this plant until it came up as a topic on one of the forums and people started posting their pic’s, quite an eye opener. Have a look at this site; you won’t be disappointed. http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/bromeliad/msg0203484418610.html

Shirley – That’s a pretty good mixed collection you got at the markets. As I’ve said many times before I think Nidulariums are a much underrated plant and one with many uses and which has a good flower life. I agree with Kristi about the ID of the little plant in the second pic. I think it’s a pup from an Orthophytum or to be more specific, Orthophytum 'Warren Loose'. It looks nothing like the pic’s on the FCBS or BCR as they are flowering plants, but have a look at the site below as it shows them in all of the different stages of growth from pup to flowering: http://www.bocabromeliads.com/nick/Orthophytum/Warren_Loose/

As for the Alcantarea, well what can I say; they are some of the most spectacular plants in the brom world with their impressive tall inflorescences which sometime grow to four metres high. You certainly got a good buy with this one, as a plant of that size for $15 is very much under priced from what I’ve seen of the prices around here. I only have a couple of these and although I’d love to have more, I just don’t have the space to grow them.

Colleen – Good to see you’ve managed to drag yourself out of that tea room to talk to us again. It’s always good to see the changing face of your garden, especially the “wall of brom’s” on your mesh in the last pic. I like the effect with the “Elephant Ears” (at least that’s what we call it here), it really makes a statement and a great contrast with the other plants. I tried a similar thing near my frog pond. I had to relocate an old variegated orange coloured Canna and I put it in a pot temporarily and sat it on the edge of the frog pond. Somehow it got accidently moved so the base of the pot was in water and boy did it take off. It’s now about five feet high and in full flower and it too is making a “statement”. I see by your last sentence that you have a lazy “c” on your keyboard, Ha Ha, I haven’t tried that on brom’s!

Wendy – Yes I can understand your frustration, I’ve been there and done that also, but no more problems since I’ve been doing the typing in MS Word first and then cutting and pasting. I can certainly understand why you were “pissed off” and went to bed.

Kristi – Regarding the removal of unwanted pic’s, there is also another way to remove pic’s. I have had pic’s removed a couple of times when I had already posted them. The reason was because DG was incorrectly showing them as copyrighted to me when they were actually someone else pic’s which I hadn’t give them credit for. I just contacted the administrator and asked for them to be removed and explained why, and they were taken off.

I'm posting five pic’s of different brom’s from my collection this morning; 1st. is one of the front gardens with Ae recurvatas in flower with some Ae. bromeliifolia albobracteata at the rear, 2nd is an Ae. recurvata x bromeliifolia, 3rd is Vr. Splendriet following a very cold winter which shocked it into flowering the best it ever has, 4th is Vr. 'Angela', and "oldie"but still a very popular plant and finally, Aechmea Pectinata; It's quite a large plant but really looks great when it decides to flower and colour up. This is the result of growing in an area covered by 75% shade cloth which provides pretty "low light". I had previously been told to grow it in the open as it would take all the sun it could get, but it just got smaller and smaller and never flowered, so in desperation I moved it to this location and finally got a flower.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 12, 2012
12:52 PM

Post #9004198

Thanks nev for that link! Love that recurvata garden and i love Vr. splendens, its one of my favourites.
Family portrait...hehe!

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 12, 2012
2:21 PM

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Oh, the pictures here are a feast for the brom-eyes. Thanks to all for sharing.

No news today. I have a vriesea Angela that I got last year while in full glorious colour. I don't know what conditions it grew under with its previous owner, but I put it out under the trees where it got dappled light. But it lost all its beautiful colour, as you can see in the pic. It should have had enough light, but obviously not. What a difference though. Will the colour ever come back into this one if I can find the right place to put it? Or will I have to wait now for it to pup

Karen

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 12, 2012
5:40 PM

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Hi Everyone, the photos that get shared in here are just awesome. Kristi, what a lovely bunch of Orthophytums, I only have one or maybe two that were given to me by a friend.
Oh Wendy, sorry to hear the fun day at the park ended up taking a toll, always a shame when the effects hi t the next day, it’s like doing some big exercise and then feeling every bit of it the next morning, lol. But still have had a super fun time at Seaworld and I’m sure it’s something laugh about and remember for years…. I hope the aches and pains have long gone now 
I am loving all these photos, why is it I never seem to see the same one twice off anyone, lol. You all have so many beautiful broms. Shirley that NOID of yours that is now very green looks somewhat like a new one I just acquired called Neo Kay Jay, it’s probably not that one, I am not much help with ID’s as yet, I’m still quite new myself, but it does look similar to me. Love those fingernails as they call them. Often a give away of what the breeding is. Don’t worry it will regain colour once it’s in good light and any fert you have given it is used up. A lot of mine as also very green at this time of year. Some people get their best colour in Summer, but I think for a lot of us, and definitely me, I get way better colour in Winter where the broms can grow with far less protection from the sun. I have to protect mine from burn in Summer, which takes away their colour sadly.
Wendy thanks so much for the little pineapples, I think we have the same sort growing that have finally taken off after not doing much for a long time, but I am going to grow yours too just in case they aren’t the same, they are so cute and little and my little son loves carrying them around and has kind of claimed them as his “pretty’s” as he calls them, lol. Thanks heaps.
Yes buying off ebay can be a big trap, I have had some crappy dealings on there and that’s what brought about the list I compiled in our Bromeliad Buy Swap Sell Group on Facebook. It is basically a list of ebay seller names who are all members of the group and who we would regard as more trusted. I am Not one to bag sellers, but there is one seller in particular whose plants Always catch my eye and hubby is worse he’ll call me to the room to come and have a look, then I see the seller and go…. Photoshop…. No thanks. I don’t think it’s actually photoshop she does, but I think perhaps she hits the auto correct button on the photos when loading into ebay and it over tweaks them to a very unrealistic colours. A good thing to look for, which I was told about, Is to look at the background colouring, if the background looks odd, ie too purple or the wrong colour, it’s a safe guess that the whole photo has been adjusted to make the plant look better than it really is.
Sorry I started this ages ago, having one of them days today.
Bree love those Vrieseas, yummo.
Oh Shirley you made me life about your “succulentitis” and “bromeliaditis” and the resulting budget deficit-it is. Yup I must agree, the ol plants no how to make a good hole in the pocket at times, even when you think you are being good, lol.
Oh I keep meaning to ask have you worked out what Dmail is and how to access it etc? It took me sometime to work it out, lol.
Nev love your knowledge and photos, what would we do without you?
Well I must say, I love our little forum here.
I put a post on my own facebook wall last night and those of you who know me on there have probably seen it. I am still having problems with rot in our new brom house and I don't know if it's a fault with the brom house, or just our heat or ??? But I had some great replies and have some things to try. I know people get high heat down, but heat is different depending where you live. I also had a nice long phone call from a brom friend that lives about a bit further south than me but still in this northern region and they told me they have had stuff burn in the last few weeks that have never burned in all their brom growing years. They too have suffered rot and are not enjoying it.
Our heat has been extreme, and when you put you fingers in the cups of the brom, the water is hot. They have also advised me to start giving them a good drink around lunch time to cool the cup water down and try to lower the plants temp. on Facebook I have also been advised to tip them all out, wash them out, allow to dry and do my fungicide spray again while they are dry, and then water later, but to give the fungicide a good chance to get around the cup and brom without all the water. All good advice and since it is soooooo hot again today, I think I'll do the good drink idea soon, and then the flushing and spraying later today when it starts to cool off a bit as I don't want them sitting dry in the heat of the day.
My biggest fear, is that we have something going on in a bad way in the brom house. None of my broms in the gardens have had any rot, it's all in the brom house and all in one area. I want to get it sorted as if it goes through the ones it's starting on... all my toothy big neos, then I think I'd just about give up. If it decides to hit my expensive Vrieseas I do think I will give up!!!
We live a quiet life on a tight budget and are raising kids on only hubby's income, so when we do manage to acquire an expensive brom that we have wanted for a while, we treat it as a treasured possession as we often know we could not afford to replace it. So to have the top of the line ones cark it, would probably be more than we could take, or me at least. Hubby has that more male attitude of oh well... it's ok, but for me, (the fmaily budgeter) it breaks my heart and I can help but see the dollars we have lost or wasted that could of been used elsewhere.
And then when I posted my frustration on Facebook on my own wall not in a public group, in the hope of some help and advice from my many brom obsessed friends... I ended up with more stress because of a certain person typical usual callous comments. But the rest of the comments were most helpful and I am so glad I have so many friends who are willing to offer advice.
Well as promised the last time I was here, i will put up a couple of photos of some newbies I just brought.
First is Neo On Target
Second Neo Kay Jay
Third Neo Darkest Hour pup

Tash

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 12, 2012
5:46 PM

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Great photo Bree, love those group shots!
Karen the colour will come back, just needs more light, a lot of mine lose colour through summer, and come winter will colour up heaps better because they can take more light/sun in winter to really bring the colour out.
Here are the other two pics i wanted to upload, it wouldn't do 5 for me, I even shrunk the files... not enough though maybe, lol.

First pic... Neo Painted Delight pup, big thanks to Wendy
Second pic ... my little man with his "pretty" Thanks again to Wendy

Have a good day everyone,
Tash

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 12, 2012
6:45 PM

Post #9004588

Hi everyone. First of all Tash, I was sitting here reading your post about the rot. You said it's all in the same area. When you were building the new SH you said that you were using an old fence I think. That's not the problem is it? Something leaching out of that when you water. Just a thought. I also think that maybe they are cooking. The idea of cleaning all the hot water out at the hottest part of the day is a great idea too. Hope that you can find the answer. Wendy my sister lives in Q and I told her about you and Johnny and all your broms. Her son and D-I-L live at Victoria Point. They have built a new house there so I suggested that broms might be the way to go. Do you want to D-mail me your phone number so that they can give you a call and make a time to come. I don't know when it would be because they work and will have to come when it's convenient for you as well. Let me know anyway. Beautiful pics everyone. They look so nice when you can put more than one at a time up. Colleen

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 12, 2012
7:15 PM

Post #9004624

Karen heres my vriesea when i got it and now, mine are in full sun though..a bit to much i think but i don't have much shade and my greenhouse is full of orchids.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 12, 2012
8:11 PM

Post #9004676

Whoo hoo have I got something to show you. No, not yet, you'll have to wait a bit longer. lol Colleen

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 13, 2012
2:51 AM

Post #9004770

Hello everyone, me again …

Another hot day, another storm, lots of heavy rain and some flooding. We are lucky enough to be nice and high and generally not affected by the storms other than occasional power cuts and road closures.

Love all the photos … can’t wait to get the shadehouse set up properly so I can get lots and lots more broms (I want them all) and hopefully when the neos get moved into their new “home” they will get their lovely colours back. I keep thinking maybe I should move them out under some trees but while we are having so many storms, I am worried we might get hail and I’ll have to send my poor husband out in the thick of it to bring them back in to the safety of the patio.

Wendy, Wellington Point is a looong way from us but hopefully one day I will get to see your collection.

Tash, yes I have now mastered D-mail. You mention your Bromeliad Buy Swap Sell Group on Facebook … can you tell me more about that. Love the photo of your little man and his “pretty”. I have managed to get two of my granddaughters interested in gardening and one of the first things I am asked when they visit is “have you got any new plants and can we see them”. They have their own little gardens here and quite a few pot plants as well.

Kristi / Nev, thanks for the ID on the Orthophytum and Nev, thanks for the link – great pics, I had no idea that I had bought such a treasure … without a doubt, one of the best $2.50 investments I have made in a long time. I also checked out the vrieseas on the other link … will definitely have to get more of them too. I have a small number and will attach a couple of pics of my vriesea ‘Gulz’ (I think).

Breeindy .. love your family portrait … beautiful. Do you have a name for the red spotty one on the far left of the photo, also the pink centred one with the strappy variegated leaves and the purple centred one above and to the right of it. Also, what type of broms are the ones with long pointy leaves (there’s apink, a red, and a variegated one).

and Colleen … you do like to keep everyone in suspense !!!

Gotta go ... thanks again and bye for now, Shirley

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perke_patch

February 13, 2012
4:36 AM

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Hi everyone.
Now that we can upload several photos in a single post we just need to be able to click from one to the other like an album. At the moment we have to open 1 pic, look at it, close it return to the post click the 2nd pic to open it, check it out and close it etc etc etc.

Once again I am not getting the option to upload more than 1 picture so I will start with this one aechmea black ice which is coming into flower

Wendy

PS why does it turn pics on the side? this one is definately not on its side in my folder.
I just lost another post with 3 pics attached. I'm going to bed again I'm so frustrated with this computer.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 13, 2012
12:36 PM

Post #9005336

works4me- red one unknown, the varigated one is unknown and the purp. is stars and bars i think. The strappy leaved ones are neophytums, that last ones not varigated just sunburnt i think.
Heres the other half of my broms. That brown rotting one is pretty sad though...

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 13, 2012
2:54 PM

Post #9005506

Colleen, what are we waiting for? Must be good. :)

Wendy, the uploading box offers only one photo, but when you fill that box, the next one shows to let you upload the second, and so on for as many as you want up to 5. It doesn't show 5 boxes all at once.

Did anyone get washed away in the storm yesterday? We nearly got blown away. Barry has been out this morning trying to clean up the debris and pick up overturned pots. We haven't had a wind like that in a long time. Had to close all the windows too as the rain was being blown through. Rain, no sorry, it was a total deluge. I think we got about 60mm while the storm lasted. It looks like a messy mangrove beach at low tide out in my yard at the moment. Tree roots are exposed, debris washed in rows like waves over the front. I guess the wind will be next, and will blow it all evenly over the yard again.

Better go, Barry's done something out there, goodness knows what. A stream of curses comes flying down the hall. Have a great day.

Karen
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 13, 2012
4:08 PM

Post #9005586

Hi everyone,

Breeindy – Wow! That’s some family portrait. What a great looking group of brom’s and such a kaleidoscope of colour; you’ve really got a nice collection growing there. What are the three with the narrow leaves are they XNeophytums and if so which ones are they? They make a nice contrast against the nice wide leaves of the Neo’s. There’s some nice colour in your second pic as well. Is the plant that you say is “rotting” (lower right of the pic) an old mother plant in decline or has it just started to rot? In any case I think you should isolate it away from the other plants just in case it is “Crown Rot” to prevent it spreading to other plants. I usually keep old mother plants in a separate area as the centre always rots as they decline which is just part of the natural process, but it is still ROT and you don’t want it contacting your other plants.

Karen – Your picture describes very well the effects that varying degrees of light plays on the colours of brom’s. The first pic of the Angela is a beautiful colour and was obviously grown in much more light than the one on the left or the one in that pic of mine for that matter. I’ve never been able to get the light intensity quite right for Angela and although I get reasonably good colour, I know it can be better. I have mine growing in with my Neo’s and as I now have several plants, this year I’ll trial several areas of the yard with different degrees of light and hopefully get it right eventually. I’ve always thought that Vrieseas are a lot tougher than they look and I’ve suspected for some time they can take much more light than we usually give them, so I guess it’s time to experiment.

As for your question about whether or not your plant will regain its colour if it gets more light, I suspect it could, but you must introduce it to more light gradually otherwise you may burn it with the intensity of the summer sun (when we ever get any, that is). Because it’s been growing in a shadier area the leaves will be softer and not able to withstand the higher temperatures until it’s been gradually hardened off, and this process is better commenced in the colder months when the sun isn’t as hot

Tash – Well we haven’t heard from you for a while and it’s good to see you visit us again, but it’s disappointing to hear your news about the rot. If it’s any consolation, you’re definitely not the only one to suffer from this problem this year. It seems to be prevalent in some areas especially the ones with the higher temperatures and high humidity. Having said that though, February has always been a bad year down here for fungus and rot problems, even back to years ago when I grew orchids. In those days it was so prevalent we even had a name for it, “February Rot”. This year seems especially bad due to all the abnormal rain we’ve been having.

I’ve been giving a lot of thought to your “rot” problem and as you say it’s only in your new shade house, so firstly you must look carefully at what’s different in there to the old one. My thoughts were about the new metal you used in the frame construction. Is it new galvanised steel? If so, and the galvanizing hasn’t been painted or neutralised, you may have zinc residue dripping on your plants when you water, as I seem to remember you saying you had installed misters. If so this can damage the plants in much the same way as the copper residue from CCA treated timber does.

Just check what plants had rotted and where in the shade house they had been situated. If they were directly beneath this galvanised metal, I would suggest this is your problem. Having said that, they wouldn’t necessarily have to be directly beneath the metal as the shade cloth is in contact with it and as the shade cloth is in a curved shape it could have really travelled anywhere.

Next time you have your misters on or are watering, take note of where the water is dripping from and see if you think this could be the problem. If so it can be rectified in two ways; either neutralise the zinc with a good scrubbing down with normal household vinegar, or painting the steel to create a barrier and stop the escape of toxins, the same as you do when you paint treated timber.

I love the pic of the little “shade house manager” and his plant. He looks like a real little “Hippie” with his good luck beads around his neck and certainly look s like he enjoys being amongst the plants. We should all encourage children to take an interest in these wonderful plants as it’s a good healthy outdoor interest and the kids of today will be the future of brom growing and hybridization of tomorrow.

Colleen – We’ve all been patiently waiting to see what you promised to show us, and I must say if it’s as good as today's pic's it will have been worth the wait. You’re getting quite a collection together and I love the little monkeys hiding mong the plants, which gives a great effect. Is the young plant in the first pic Rosea Striata? If so, if you move it gradually into more light, the pups will look even better and be more compact. It is very variable in its response to light (more so than a lot of other plants), and I have seen it almost light green where the striping is hard to see right through to the other end of the scale where it is quite dark and again the striping is hard to see, the challenge is to get the light just right so the attractive pin striping becomes the feature of the plant. This of course all depends on your own personal taste as it’s you who will get the enjoyment from it. Don’t get me wrong I’m not criticising, I’m just pointing out the other available options. Also, the fact that you have positioned your plants at varying levels throughout your garden gives a good effect as well, and makes viewing them more interesting and full of surprises.

Karen – Your vriesea is a great example of what I said earlier about how I suspected that vrieseas could take more light then we normally give them and I think the colour in the second pic is just spectacular!

Shirley – If you have to move your plants from under cover to get more colour at the risk of hail damage, I think I’d be leaving them where they are until the threat of hail has past. You can always give them better light at a later date, but you can’t repair hail damage.

I do like you Vr ‘Gulz’; and like Vr ‘Angela’, it’s not a new one but still a very attractive one. Just for interest sake this is what’s written in the BCR about its history:

Plant imported from the Hans Gulz Nursery in Germany in the late 1970’s by Olive Trevor, Brisbane, as V. platynema var variegata but when it first flowered it had a branched inflorescence so the species name seemed inappropriate. It was distributed as ‘Gulz’ and is now widespread on the east coast of Australia. Because of the recent interest in ‘Glyph’ Vrieseas it was considered this name should be recorded for posterity.

Wendy – I like your pic of Ae ‘Black Ice’ which is the result of a crossing between Ae Chantinii and an unknown pollen parent. It certainly has nice banding but unfortunately Chantinii and its hybrids don’t do well down here as they can’t handle the colder winters than you get up north. I expect if I had a warm spot to put them during the cold weather, I might just be able to get them to survive, but at present that’s just not an option.

Sorry that I can’t help you with why your computer turns your pic’s on their side, but I’m sure that someone with more computer knowledge than I can sort it out for you. Try contacting Tash and see what she says, she’s helped me “heaps”.

Well that’s about it again for another morning, I’ve got to go and try and cut the grass while it’s not raining and while I can still see the top of the lawn mower above the grass.

All the best, Nev.

I'll finish with four pic's of my back garden taken last year and the final one is of a few of my Aechmeas.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 13, 2012
8:01 PM

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Hi everyone. Nev your garden is looking beautiful. Well, this may not be everyone's cup of tea but I'm really chuffed to have been able to get these plants. Here they are freshly potted. And it all you people's fault because of all the Vrieseas that have been posted lately I just couldn't resist them any longer. 2 have a pup on each so that was an added bonus and they're very large healthy plants. I hope you like them too. Colleen

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 13, 2012
8:48 PM

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Yes Nev there Neophytums, Ralph Davis, Lymanii, Gary Handrix and on the 2nd family pic the smaller Firecracker.
No not that older mother plant the rotting one is the light one on the left of my 1st family photo.

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 13, 2012
9:09 PM

Post #9005879

WOW Colleen ... worth waiting for.

Love 'em. We HAVE to get the work done on the shadehouse so I can get MORE BROMS. Will have to start cracking the whip.

Pic is of my little heiroglyphica

Bye, Shirley


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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 14, 2012
12:08 AM

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Wow! so much to see. Uploading up to 5 pics really makes our posts more exciting to see. Nev, wonderful gardens. Colleen, wow! A real score there and such a great size too. Worth waiting for.

Shirley, I have a small heiroglyphica here that I almost killed. I had it out in the sun over winter, but on the first hot day we had, it got horribly burned. I can't do much now but wait and see if it will get a pup sometime in the future. I wouldn't buy another one as the conditions here are too hard for the hieros.

Bree, your pic is very colourful. I love the neos for that reason.

Barry got home today to find a huge gum tree had come down, taking out the corner of his roof, and the corner of the roof of the house next door. Council was there cutting up the tree, and they brought in a crane to lift the large trunk pieces onto a truck. Tarps were needed to cover the roof damage until they can get it fixed. Not so nice to come home to. Both houses were empty when the storm hit, and both came home to the damages.

I worked on another loofah today, covering it with bird netting to put my funckianas on, as their base was totally rotten. Hope they do well on it. (First pic.) The second pic is a new coconut ball I've mounted T. Harrisii and T. Queroensis onto, with some old mans beard. Needs another tillandsia to finish it off.

A lovely Moon Tiger seedling is showing off her lovely, healthy looking pup in pic. 3, and in pic 4 is my latest, a neo. Buccaneer pup showing potential for good colour in the future.

Last, a pic of Tim Plowman looking great.

Karen



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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 14, 2012
12:28 AM

Post #9005951

Wow, Karen your Tim Ploughman is looking great. Mine is only half that size. Colleen

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 14, 2012
1:40 AM

Post #9005959

works4me- is this the purple one you liked?

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 14, 2012
4:43 AM

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Hi everyone,

Thanks Nev for the history of vriesea Gulz … you certainly are a wealth of knowledge. Your gardens look so lovely. Thanks too for the tip on ‘hail damage’ vs ‘colour’ for the neos. Guess I’ll leave them where they are till it cools down a bit and the storms abate. Has anyone had their broms damaged by hail.

Karen, sorry to hear your hieroglyphica got so badly burned … I will be sure to be very careful with mine.

Yes breeindy, that’s the one … is it “stars and bars”. Your neophytums look very interesting. I don’t think I have seen these for sale anywhere. Does anyone have them and are their colours as varied as the neoregelias.

Shirley
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 14, 2012
12:46 PM

Post #9006604

Hi everyone,

Well it’s been raining again during the night, but I’m hoping it will stay away today as a group of us from the Bromeliad Society are having a workshop at the Illawarra Light Railway Museum where we will be re-planting their garden with some bromeliads as well as mounting a few in trees. It will be a good exercise especially for the members who live in flats and small units without a decent back yard to practice other methods of growing brom's other than just in pots.

Colleen – Well, well, well; who’s been spending all the housekeeping money on Vrieseas? Are they seedlings or named plants? There does look to be at least a few seedlings of Vr. platynema variegata amongst them and possibly a bit of Vr. fenestralis breeding in amongst them as well. Come on give us a bit of history about them, who bred them and where they came from, come on tell us all about them.

As I’ve said before, I’m quickly running out of space and as I’m not a greedy person I’ll just take the bottom right one in the 1st pic and the bottom left in the 2nd pic and I’m sure you won’t even miss them. Anyway, it doesn’t really matter who grew them or where they came from, you’ve really hit the “jackpot” with that lot and there’s a bit of potential with a few of them as an added bonus. Congratulations on your acquisitions.

Breeindy – Yes I suspected they were XNeophytums but as I’m not very familiar with them I didn’t know which ones. I just have a few; Ralph Davis and Galactic Warrior plus some I don’t know the names of. I lost a bit of interest in them after an incident at one of our monthly meetings where I had entered a nice plant of Galactic Warrior which I was hopeful of winning a prize with in our monthly point score competition.

As I was standing back discussing a plant with a friend, a **#$@%** woman (not members but visitors) came along with her friend and said to her, “I don’t like these much as their leaves are too brittle” and with that she demonstrated by snapping a leaf in two; I was just “gobsmacked” and couldn't believe what I had just seen and before I could say anything, her friend said, “Oh is that so?” and she also snapped off a leaf just to see how brittle they really were. I needn’t tell you that I wasn’t able to bite my tongue any longer and they were both TOLD just what I thought of them in no uncertain terms! Needless to say they didn’t join our society nor did they ever come back. But since that incident I’ve just lost interest in these beautiful plants as every time I look at them it reminds me of the day they buggered up my plant for future showing.

As for the Neo. that was rotting, I don’t think it matters much what the cause is, I think it’s best to separate them from your other plants to stop the rot from spreading. I should have also mentioned that just because a plant rots, that doesn’t mean it should be “tossed”; just cut out all the rotten bits, treat it with a good fungicide (ONE THAT DOESN’T CONTAIN COPPER) and allow it to dry out for three or four days and then give it a feed of Osmocote and put it somewhere in the garden away from other your brom’s and it will usually produce some pups eventually.

Shirley – Your little Vr hieroglyphica will one day grow into a magnificent big Vr. hieroglyphica and probably be the “standout” plant in your whole collection. They don’t call it the “King” of the brom’s for nothing, no doubt about it, it’s a fabulous plant.

Karen – Don’t worry too much about burning your hieroglyphica; the damage will eventually be overtaken by new leaves as they grow and after a while you won’t even know it had been burnt. That’s bad luck about the gum tree; they should never be planted in residential areas, yet some local council still persist in planting them as street trees. Will they never learn? There was a case a couple of years back, just down the coast from here where a man went to the council to get permission to cut down a Gum Tree in his front yard. Permission was denied and it was only six months later that it was blown down in a strong wind onto his house and killed him.

I love your little Neo Buccaneer; it’s a great little plant that usually has the habit of producing an abundance of leaves resulting in a lovely compact little clump of colour, and as for your Quesnelia Tim Plowman, well that’s an interesting plant and is always a very popular choice. Reminds me a bit of “Shirley Temple” with the curls! (Now that’s giving my age away isn’t it?)

Shirley – That pic is definitely Stars ‘N Bars; it’s one of my many favourite Neo’s which unfortunately is still on my Wish List as I don’t see it around very often and when I do they are usually spoken for. It’s hard to mistake the concentric rings on its leaves which it inherits from concentrica which was its seed parent. There is a most unusual clone of it on the site below which is worth a look:
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7254#7254

As for the XNeophytums, I do have a few extras and the best of all is probably the beautiful Galactic Warrior. See some great examples at: http://www.bromeliad.org.au/pictures/Neophytum/Galactic_Warrior.htm

Well that’s it for another today, hopefully I’ll be back tomorrow for another chat.

All the best, Nev

Pic 1. Ae. Fasciata 'Rubra', Pic. 2. Ae. Distichantha, Pic. 3 Ae. Recurvata 'Rising Sun' (Excuse the cobwebs), Pic. 4 Ae Orlandiana 'Touch-a-Pink' and finally something that can break up the red colours in a display of plants with a bit of contrast, Neo. 'Marble Snow'
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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 14, 2012
1:22 PM

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Nev- i would have done the same thing. I haven't found them to be very brittle (i don't snap mine though)hehe! There very spikey though, hard to touch without getting hurt actually.
Shirley- yes its stars and bars. Neophytums are usally in shades of red/green and purple i think, depends on how much sun like other broms. I don't think they pup often, none of mine have pups.

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 14, 2012
1:56 PM

Post #9006715

Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all the brom house suggestions, we have considered everything I think, the materials being the first thing that was rechecked. The battens are zinc so they were a concern during the building, but were treated so we hope they are not the cause, they are the only suspect building material. And although they do keep playing on my mind, I also don’t think it’s them as it’s not happening any where else in the brom house, only at the far end. We haven’t used the misters in ages, I much rather prefer to hose by hand and keep an eye on things. But I am keeping those battens in the back of my mind. One question Nev, if I wanted to again treat them with Vinegar, just in case…. Is it ok to spray this above the broms and then hose the broms, or will the vinegar hurt the broms below? I don’t think they need treating again, but just thought I’d ask.
As for the fencing shelves Colleen, thanks for the suggestion, but they are really old and came from the old brom house, so they are very safe :) thanks everyone for thinking what it could be.

I’ll copy what Graeme wrote on my wall, it is as follows….
“What I think you have happening is a COMBO of things that's giving rise to the fungal rotting;
1. some broms are still acclimatising to "the move" and probably re-pot you did, so they are probably stressed and weaknened a little (yes prob wrong time of year before Xmas to make your change as you said);
2. if you have feritlised with slow release in spring or when you re-potted etc, some broms with have tender newe growth in the cups that is ripe for attacking;
3. the high summer temps has caused the cup water to become hotter than usual, thus possibly damaging the new cup tissue;
4. Mr. Phytophthora cinnamomi then moves in (from your water probably), has a field day in the warm water and then feeds on the weak tissue.

When I had this problem, all you can do is as mentioned by others above...
1. tip out all water, hose out thoroughly and let dry (even on plants that are NOT showing signs of rot yet). Yes, this is a STINK job that takes ages, but better than losing a lot of your collection. Unfortunately it is very necessary in small shadehouses like ours where airflow is limited and humidity intensified.
2. When dry, SPRAY thoroughly with fungicide (Bravo or Fongarid are good ones) and let them dry a bit again, water them..spray them AGAIN into the cup water 2-3 days later to make sure.
3. You can then sprinkle cinnamon periodically as suggested, but I just keep a sprayer ready to got with fungicide and tip out and spray everything EVERY 6-8 weeks in Spring and Summer, then again in Autumn.
4. Increasing your airflow will help prevent the problem arising, so see what you can do here..maybe look at rolling the bottoms of the tunnel cloth up somehow on hot, still days ?

The point here is you are effectively ot giving the fungus ANY time to establish and take hold, it won't ghrow in clean, fungal sprayed water no matter how hot your climate is...it's all about PREVENTION, which at the end of the day is your only cure.

One other thing, don't be too quick to bin anything that has cup or leaf axil rot. Just do as I said above, remove any rotting outside or centre leaves, keep replacing water and spraying every week if you have a bad patient in the hospital. I have been really surpised at how many will recover if you look after them and stop the rot progressing into the stem and roots so it breaks off...

Good luck and hope this helps you a bit more ?”

I do think he is the closest to the mark. I have been talking privately with him and he’s been a great help and he has had the exact same experience as me, and attributes it mainly to the broms going into a bit of shock when being changed from that Green shade house into the new WAY brighter beige shade house. He says broms are very hardy plants, but with changing their light levels and humidity levels they will suffer for a little while, and then the added really hot weather we are having which has made the cup water quite warm during the day, allows that fungi to attack while the plants are a bit stressed.

So I followed his instructions and the spraying was all done. I was a bit concerned the next morning as it left a white residue over the leaves of the broms, I hope this doesn't mark the leaves. I hosed it off the really special broms just in case it damages them. I always find it a bit stressful doing something for the first time, just nervous I might damage something. We had done it about 2 weeks ago, but heavy rain that night must of washed the residue off as we didn't see this residue last time. So fingers crossed that residue will not harm anything. My next plan is to wait a few days and then also do cinnamon in the cups of them as well! Probably over kill but I am sick of losing broms. (lost another yesterday).
Also we are going to try and lift the cloth at the far end of the shade house, we only enclosed it because as you can see in some photos, it is quite close to the gateway and street and can be easily seen from the road. But we are going to see what we can do about opening the end to up the air flow as well.

Now due to the fact I have written so much, lol, I will finish up just with adding I love all the photos, and Colleen what a great score with those Vrieseas, what are the names? I love my vrieseas, I wish they were faster to pup, but I still love them to bits.

Okay I hope you all have a great day,
Tash
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 14, 2012
2:22 PM

Post #9006742

Hi everyone. Yes Nev, I've spent all the housekeeping AGAIN. I'll put up some individual pics with names for you. Here we go. [1] Vr. you beaut X banana split. [2] platynema var varigata X fantasy. [3] Fenestralis. [4] Platynema var varigata X Mambo. I'll put the rest underneath. Colleen

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 14, 2012
2:35 PM

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Here's the other 4. Tash I do hope you find out what's causing the rot. I hope it doesn't come here. These Vrieseas may be a bit stressed too as they were in the post from last Tuesday over the weekend til Monday. They look really good so I hope that they will be fine. [1] Goth X Uluru Sunset, [2] Platynema var varigata X Milky Way. [3] Platynema var varigata X Fosteriana X Platynema. [4] Fantasy X Platynema var varigata. Colleen



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perke_patch

February 15, 2012
6:06 AM

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wow Colleen you got some very nice vriseas there. well done.

where to start. there was so much to read tonight to catch up. Nev I wish our brom soc would develop a documented list of rules and regulations. Could you possibly email me a copy of what your group has developed? The first meeting I went to was the AGM last year and as I have been to many many board & committee meetings I am familiar with correct procedure for these meetings. It started well with the committee members standing down and handing the meeting over to a temp chair for elections. I then epected them to call for nominations for postions but no it was anounced that as nobody had nominated for any positions the current committee had agreed to return with a shuffle of postions. The chairperson returned to her position with secretary & treasurer swapping positions. I was gobsmacked. All the same if I wanted to run for one of the positions. I checked the newsletters and no call for nominations or mention of how to nominate. Just a done deal among them on the quiet. I know someone else who wrote to the committee advising of correct meeting protocol but no mention of this letter being received or any response to it. If you don't like it, screw it up and ignore it or pretend you didn't receive it. Unbelievable. Anyway I would love to see what protocols your group came up with.

Karen your TP is doing well and not looking like it is suffering at all. See you can look after one. Yours is still happily growing here and multiplying alongside ours. We were given a boot full of mini neos on the weekend. A friend is cleaning up his yard as the house is being pulled down the block split into 3 with a new house being built on one and other 2 sold to pay for it. So he is clearing out his garden. He got his original plants from us but he has so many pots full of them now. We just pulled them all out and left his bread tins for him. He still has some hanging containers with minis in them so will probably replant them anyway. He asked if we wanted any other plants in his garden but we settled for the minis.

Jen and I have a friend at Capalaba who had her collection hit quite badly with hail last year and lost a lot of plants. They are still rotting off where they were damaged so she has virtually given up on collecting broms. She is in her 70s and her husband doesn't like gardening so gives no help at all. Anyhow she has sorted out what she wants to keep and put the rest out for sale. She gave me and Jen first pick. Lucky for me Jen's phone has been playing up so when niether of us could get onto her I went over by myself and had almost first pick. A neighbour had told someone else who got there about an hour before me and started picking but went to get more money. She got some very nice ones but I beat her to a lot of others. Anyway I spent more than I intended to and filled my car completely. Even had a box on the front seat. Even got another full grown painted delight, cane fire, candy stripe, mainline, 2 flowering ae eileen, and so many more. a lot of ones we didn't have yet in our collection but a lot we did but so nice I had to take them. If I didn't someone else would have right? I did leave a few good ones for Jen including cane fire. Anyhow we stood there today and finished repotting them all into our mix an appropriate sized pots for what they will become not what they are right now.

Yes we have a lot of xneophytums including ralph davies, firecracker, galactic warrior, gary hendrix. I love the size of ralph davies and the colour of firecracker, the variegations of galactic warrior. A hint for thoe who have galactic warrior. ... if a pup comes out green without variegation just persevere with growing it because the variegation may still come later. We almost dumped a few plain green ones but I convinced Johnny to wait to see what they would look like mature and voila ... the variegations eventually started appearing till we couldn't tell which ones had always been variegated and which hadn't.

Anyway it is now after midnight and I must be off to bed. We are supposed to be off to Hervey Bay till Sunday but still discussing whether to go in the winnie or just the car. Have to see my dad who is going downhill fast to the dreaded C. Apparently the doctor told him he is on the downhill slide now with one foot already sinking and the other one on a banana skin. Nice way of putting it right????? Dad finally accepted that he is dying and has virtually given up. So we are all taking turns to visit him and try to pep him up a bit.

Night all
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 15, 2012
11:51 AM

Post #9007778

Hi everyone,

Well apparently the Gremlins got into my computer again and have been sending “bogus” Emails to people, some who I don’t even know. Two were sent to me from an old workmate the other morning and because I couldn’t open them I left them to try again later. I’ve been told I should have deleted them there and then because while ever they were still active on my computer they could be sent to anyone who I had sent or received emails from in the past, and that’s what the “Gremlins” did, they sent them to lots of people (our Colleen as well) and even people on Face Book who I didn’t even know.

It’s a bit worrying to know that Face Book and Emails are all connected and due to my ignorance of all things “computer wise”, I didn’t previously know this was possible. When you think about the number of people they may have been sent to it’s hard to believe, (possibly thousands or even more) and it’s easy to see how this sort of “bug” can completely bog down the whole system with junk. These two Emails have since been deleted and if anyone has received suspicious Emails from me, don’t open them, delete them; as I didn’t send them!

Now back to a more pleasant task; talking about brom’s. Yesterday I took a group from our bromeliad society over to the Illawarra Light Railway Museum (of which I am a member) with the idea of rejuvenating an old garden and planting it with bromeliads and mounting a few on some of the trees as well. A lot of our older members are pensioners living in small flats and units and don't have a decent back yard in which to garden so this will be a good opportunity for them to experience the other side of brom growing by practicing a little landscaping and other methods of planting brom's other than just in pots.

As our museum is a voluntary organisation, we are also doing a favour for another voluntary organisation like ours. The museum is situated in a nice little spot at Albion Park Rail in the middle of one of the few remaining Melaluka forests (albeit small) on the south coast and we were fortunate that the rain stayed away and we had a most enjoyable day. I took a few “before” pic’s and a few of the “work in progress” and when I go over to water everything this morning, I’ll take a few of the “after” shots and I’ll be able to post them here for everyone to see.

There were already a few brom’s growing in the garden from the work done by a previous gardener who isn’t with us anymore and they consisted mainly of plants that were excess from my garden plus some seedling “culls”, all of which have multiplied and needed a good clean up and redistribution; so there were adequate plants to “play with”.

Breeindy – The fact that you say that you don’t seem to get many pups from your Orthophytums surprises me as mine seem to pup profusely especially the Galactic Warrior. I don’t give them any special treatment except to hang them right up close under the shade cloth for maximum light. Even though I have read that they like a lot of fertilizer, these have only had a bit when the pups were first potted.

Tash – In answer to you post from yesterday all I can say is that your friends have all offered some good advice and I still think the main root cause of all rot is insufficient air circulation.

One other suggestion I'll make which may help your problem, and circulate the air better would be to buy a pedestal fan. Bunnings sell them quite cheap now only about $12. They're about 30" high, 15" diameter 3 speed and can be set to oscillating or fixed and they're cheap as chips to run (See DMail for more details). I feel that one of these would certainly help and you only need to run them on about medium and that's sufficient to keep the air moving.

Secondly, have you considered fitting some sort of vent to the highest point of each end wall, the hot air accumulates at the highest point and this would allow some of it to escape; and in conjunction with the fan would improve the air circulation even more. These things only need to be done during the hot weather and while your plants are acclimatising to the new shade house and changed conditions. When the cooler weather starts you could well be able to do away with needing use the fan at all, but I think the vent should be permanent.

Colleen – The information you give about the names of your crosses doesn’t surprise me as the beautiful “fingernails” on the leaf tips are a dead giveaway for “Platynema variegata” being in the parentage.

Picking the best out of that little lot is a very difficult exercise but now that I can see each plant on their own and I now know the parentage, the one I think has the most potential is pic 2 in the second batch (Platynema var variegata X Milky Way). Both parents are proven exceptional breeders and thinking back to what Jack Koning (the hybridizer of Milky Way) said about the quality of Milky Way seedlings, I think this plant will only improve more as it grows. You’ve done very well with your selection.

Wendy – Regarding our new constitution, it still isn’t complete as we’ve only had the first meeting and from that the second draft has to be typed and sent out to all on the committee for perusal. We will then go through it all again and discus it further still before deciding on a final draft. When this is typed up and sent to the committed for checking yet again, it will be ready to take to the general meeting to see if they wish to adopt it.

In the mean time we will announce to the next general meeting that changes are being made and it will be brought to the meeting after for members to see and decide if they want to adopt it. We need to do this as our By-Laws states that there must be 28 days notice given prior to this being moved for adoption by a vote from the members.

If it is adopted and if I can get permission from the committee, I will gladly send you a copy. By the way, at you AGM where there were no new nominations, didn’t they call for any new nomination from the floor? That’s what we do although we find it very hard to get people to fill these positions as they all want to grow brom’s and not go to meetings; but then someone has to make the decisions and run things which is a hard, cold, fact of life these people often want to forget.

Well that’s about it for all of the “business talk” and I’ll be back to “brom talk” again tomorrow.

All the best, Nev.

Here's a few "before" and "during" shots of yesterday's activities

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shellharbour
Australia

February 15, 2012
11:54 AM

Post #9007784

Finally, all shows need a "star"

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 15, 2012
2:45 PM

Post #9008012

Good morning everyone.

Wow, Colleen, you really did do well with those vrieseas. Such beautiful plants.

Nev, great to see pics of people working :).

Wendy, great that you got another nice haul from an unexpected source. I do look forward to seeing the minis in the near future. I have a vriesea here to bring down to you to see if you can show me how to remove a pup and tidy up the plant, which was sunburnt horribly.

I'm outta here today to the shops. So have a great day everyone.
Karen

PS - A question. I have a Catlan Bill. seedling here from Moon Tiger, but it is very special. Well, I think so anyway. How would I go about naming it officially? I think it deserves a name. What do you think?



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 15, 2012
9:05 PM

Post #9008377

Hi everyone,

Anyone wishing to contact me please do so via D-Mails until further notice as the "Gremlins" have now closed my Email account.

All the best, Nev.
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2012
9:18 PM

Post #9008383

Ouch Nev... I also had received a goofy email from you. I did open it and found it was nonsense and advertising and figured it was some more of that hotmail headache. Here's hoping you can get it cleared up. I feel like you do about these computer gremlins. I loved the photo groupings of Aechmeas which you posted above. The pictures of your workday looks like a good time was had by all.

Karens' photo earlier of Tim Plowman is too cool. That is one neat plant!

I am loving all the beautiful bromeliads and wonder how you all manage to keep their IDs correct.
Please keep the photos coming... Kristi
perke_patch

February 16, 2012
12:49 AM

Post #9008461

Hi everyone. Karen I do think your bill moon tiger seedling is a lovely colour. I went to see if I could find a moon tiger here but no didn't find one. I know we have some but they must be still just green. you could call it moon kitten or lunar cat. I'm sure we could come up with a few more names for you. Come on everyone help Karen name her billbergia.

All the pictures now are making this forum so lovely to read each night. It's just a pity we have to open and close each one before opening and closing the next. ah well we'll have to cop it on the chin in order to enjoy the pics.

Nev I decided not to go to see the fiasco again of an AGM already stacked to stay as is. Even Chris from Collectors Corner talking about tillandsias wasn't enough to make me drive into the city by myself. I got an email last night to say that Chris had brought up a shipment of tillandsia, guzmania and vrisea to sell at the meeting tonight. That was tempting but when Jen said she couldn't go due to work commitments I decided I would stay home to watch My Kitchen Rules LOL.

Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 16, 2012
11:58 AM

Post #9008909

Good morning everyone,

Well to expand a bit on my last brief message, when I went to send an Email yesterday afternoon, I was notified by Hotmail that they had detected a “bug” in my account and it had been “blocked”. They said it had been cleaned, but before I could re-enter it I had to fill in the following info which was a massive list of questions. These were all about info I had given when I first joined up and included a “secret answer” to the question, “Who was my favourite school teacher”? Plus 5 email addresses that I’ve recently sent Emails to, five title lines of recent Emails I have sent and it just went on and on and on. Unfortunately there wasn’t a section where I could tell them I was over seventy and a life member of the “CRAFT” club it was impossible for me to remember all of these things. In fact, getting these answers from me was as hard as poking butter up a porcupines arse with a red hot knitting needle!

The outcome I fear is that it looks like I won’t be using Hotmail anymore, nor will I be sending or receiving any Emails until I open a new account with someone. Unfortunately I’ve also lost pretty well all of the Email addresses of my friends, and a real worry is that this includes all my brom friends that I swap and sell plants with regularly.
So if any of you good people on here wish to still contact me by Email, you will have to send me your Email address by D-Mail which I will write on a "paper list" for future use. I’m very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause, but what else can I say except, “BUGGER!”

Karen – That’s a great looking Billbergia seedling and well worthy of registering in my opinion. I love the wide leaves which make a pleasant change from so many you see turning up with unattractive skinny leaves. To register your plant with the BSI, contact:

Geoff Lawn
31 Greenock Ave
Como WA 6152
Australia
Email: cultivars@bsi.org

Geoff is the registrar and I’m sure he’ll send you details of what you need to do, in fact I think you can even do it all “on line” now.

Kristi – I’m pleased you like all of the little “tit bits” of info on our site from “down under” as well as the pictures, and it’s great for us to keep getting feedback from people like you as this is what starts discussions, and discussions are what keeps the site going and makes it interesting for everyone.

As for remembering plant names, well that’s another topic altogether. Most people when they buy their first brom, tend to “toss” the name tag as they think it detracts from the appearance of the plant, and it’s not until they become more interested and get a few more that they realise they should have kept the name tag, as their plants are now just more “NOIDS” on the end of an ever increasing list. Having the correct name is important as it allows you to trace the breeding history of the plant if you are so inclined, but more importantly, it give the plant and definite identity. Plants with unregistered names may well be just as beautiful or even more so, but they don’t have a definite identity, just a “nickname” so to speak.

Very experienced brom growers often say, “never believe the name on the label”; as they’ve learnt over the years that quite often these names are just “pet names” given to plants by owners just for their own convenience and have no real meaning in relation to the legitimate International Bromeliad Register. As you’ve seen by the postings on this site, the genuine grower is constantly chasing the true identity of their plants and that’s the only way to sort out the mess that a lot of the brom names are in at present, but we keep trying!

Wendy – I can understand how frustrated you must feel over the “AGM thing” as I have often felt the same in various organisations I have been in. I have found these situations can occur in two ways, firstly as you put it, the meeting can be “rigged” by a few unscrupulous members, and secondly and probably more commonly, these problems occur due to ignorance about “meeting procedure” by the members.

Generally speaking I have found that the majority of the members just want to come to a meeting and discus brom’s, enter a point score, have a chat and a “cuppa” etc., as it’s really just a social thing and they are not the slightest bit interested in whether the meeting is run correctly or not, they just want the business side of things to be over and done with quickly and out of the way. The thing they don’t realise is that what they are doing is illegal!

Most well run organisations have a “constitution” which lays down the rules by which it must be run and a copy of this should be available to all members on joining the organisation. As well as this there should also be a copy kept in the organisation’s library if they have one. This way everyone can make sure everything is legitimate and above board. It’s a pity this has happened as Brom Societies are usually friendly places without politics interfering with things.
You could always do what other discontented people have done in the past, and start up a small “Study Group” where everyone brings a “plate” and you meet at a different member’s place each month to socialise and talk about brom’s without all of the meeting legalities.

That’s about it for now and I’ll just finish with a few more pic’s...1. Neo Blake Street Beauty, 2. Neo. Concentrica x (Charn x Cracker Jack) #004, 3. Neo. Garnish, 4.Neo. Meyendorffii albo-marginata, 5. Neo Concentrica x (Charm x Cracker Jack) #007a

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 16, 2012
1:10 PM

Post #9008987

Good morning all. Well what a lot of cafuffle you've been having Nev. Hope you get it all fixed soon. I've sent you a D-mail in the mean time. I can't believe the difference in your no2 and no5 pics. No wonder the poor learner like me can't tell which brom is which Karen, I do think your Bill deserves a name. It's a beauty. How about "Dusky Moon"? Well still haven't got my tanks hooked up to the pump but it doesn't matter as there's been no rain to speak about I still have a lot of cleaning up to do. It's a never ending story isn't it? Must go and have a cuppa. Colleen.

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springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 16, 2012
3:06 PM

Post #9009151

Hi everyone,
well we had some lovely heavy rain overnight, yippeeee no watering today.
Nev sorry to hear all the dramas you are having, have you thought about contacting hotmail via their contact centre and explaining your situation, at least they might be able to help you get back into your account and then you won't lose all those important contacts. I don't use hotmail, I use gmail, but I'm sure they should be able to help and surely they must understand that not all those answers can be given... not too many people would be able to give them.
I hope you can get it sorted. I only use gmail as I presume google being one of the biggest search engines might have a decent email system, lol. I use to always use the email account from my provider, but I was tempted to change internet provider a little while back and realised I would lose my email account and everything in it, so that was when I decided to open a free account that was not connected to my provider so I would never lose it, regardless of what provider I use.
But yes there is always something that can go wrong to ruin that theory too.

Love the Vrieseas Colleen, you did do really well! I have quite a few here with Milkyway in them and they are colouring up nicely.
I'm not a big Bill person, but that does look like a nice Bill Karen, lucky you to be able to name it :)
Love all the pics as usual.

We are going on a brom crawl tomorrow, I keep telling hubby ... no more... well not no more... but slow down!!! But we get so much enjoyment out of it that 's it so hard to say no. It's kind of hard to tell him off when he earns the money and doesn't spend it on beer or smokes etc, so broms are his only real spending he does. We have been very naughty this week and it will follow onto next week too, agreeing to too many broms so have a few packages coming in the mail next week.
so I'll be adjusting the budget to juggle things, lol.

Ok I had better go, have some mini's to pot up and get into the brom house.

Talk soon,
Tash
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 16, 2012
3:10 PM

Post #9009158

Nev, thank you for the info on registering names. Very helpful. Will follow up on that when I get some time. I think the plant is beautiful and deserves a name.

As for that questionaire from Hotmail, it sounds suspicious in itself. I would be careful to check out the validity of such an email before you answer anything like that, as questions like your password, last email addresses etc. are extremely suspicious. So do be very careful. When typing in a password on a legitimate form, only black dots should appear. The password itself should never show itself. Can you send a copy to Hotmail and query it's validity?

Now, we've got
Dusky Moon
Moon Kitten
Lunar Cat.
One I had thought of was MoonCat. I like all of these.

Interesting to see the other seedlings I've got that supposedly come from Moon Tiger. All of them are so different, and this is just a small selection. I wonder why my beauty is so different. These are all Moon Tiger seedlings. Just amazing.

Karen

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 17, 2012
12:29 PM

Post #9010074

Good morning everyone,

We had a beautiful day here yesterday and I finally had a chance to get a bit done in the garden. I sorted out a lot of Billbergias and selected the ones in need of dividing and/or re-potting and there’s many more than I first thought, so it looks like I’ll be busy today.

Many thanks to those of you who have made contact with me and given me you email addresses and postal details again, it’s much appreciated. Also if I’m currently in the middle of a swap with anyone on this site could you please get back to me with the details, as this info was all kept in a folder on Hotmail and I no longer have access to that either.

I had an interesting experience with Brunnings (not Bunnings) over the last few days. Some of you may already know that I am a great advocate of Brunnings products which I have been using for many years, ever since I grew orchids way back in the dim dark past. I use their various fertilizers (I find their rose fertilizer very good on young brom’s), their sphagnum moss and their Cymbidium Orchid Potting Mix. This was recommended to me by a well known brom grower and hybridizer and I’ve been using it for three years now with excellent results. It has a lot of well composted pine bark in it and the brom’s seem to love it. I just use it on its own, straight from the bag with no additives except a little fertilizer around the top of the pot just beneath the surface at the time of potting.

I previously always made up my own mix but now with a chronic back problem that won’t go away and arthritis like everyone else my age, I find I’m not up to mixing great heaps with a shovel anymore and although it costs a bit more, using this ready to use product is far more convenient and the bags are of a size I can comfortably handle. Two weeks ago I opened a bag and it seemed to be just pine bark mulch, it wasn’t composted and was so fresh it still had a strong smell of pine resin. The next few bags were fine and then I got another bag which was so fine it was just like dust.

Knowing full well that these products had always been of a good standard up to now I wrote a letter to Brunnings and told them of the problem and that I thought their quality control wasn’t working which was going to cost them customers if not rectified. I’m of the opinion that if something’s not right, you need to tell the manufactures so they can see what the problem is. They can’t fix a problem if they don’t know about it. I got an answer that same day from the chap who looks after that department and he told me that the potting mix was all processed off site in Canberra by a contractor and was supposed to be made to their standards to which he added that something was obviously going wrong and he would investigate and get back to me. In the meantime, as a “thankyou” for bringing this to his attention he offered to send some samples of a Coir Mulch product that he knew some growers were using for brom’s with good results.

I never thought any more about it until yesterday when a courier brought in a large cardboard box. Initially I thought it was brom’s until I saw “Brunnings” on the box, and when I opened it there were six compressed and dehydrated blocks of coir mulch with each one capable of making 15 litres of mulch when rehydrated with water. So it just goes to show, when you get a problem product, don’t just dismiss it, or whinge about it, notify the company responsible so they can do something about it and you might just get a little present for your troubles.

Colleen – You bring up an interesting point about the vast variation in seedlings supposedly from the same parents. You may have noticed that a lot of the registered plants only have the name of one parent given (the seed parent) and not the pollen parent as well. This may be for a number of reasons.

1. When using hybrids as parents, the seedlings can resemble either of the parents or any of the other plants from the past crosses of those parents used in the breeding programme so it’s not hard to see how these vast variations can occur.

2. The hybridizer doesn’t want anyone to know the name of the other parent so they can’t repeat the cross.

3. The name ID tags on the seed pods were lost or they weren’t tagged in the first place.

4. The cross was done by insects and the hybridizer is just taking credit for it. (This is a statement which I know will put me off side with a lot of hybridizers, but I know it does happen. I admitted in my booklet “Bromeliads from Seed to Flower” that’s probably what happened in my first attempt to hybridize and it explains the possible cause of the vast variation in colours of the Neo seedlings resulting from that cross; and if could happen to me it could also happen to others as well.

I quote from the above booklet... “It is also possible for insects to pollinate the flowers and in my shade house ants are the culprits and can regularly be seen moving over all types of bromeliad flowers. So the question is: who pollinated the flower, the human hybridizer (me) or the ants or other insects?

This has always posed a problem, as the only way I can see to avoid this from happening is to have a completely insect proof area where flowering plants can be housed before, during and after the pollination process has taken place and for me this is something which just isn’t an option. So to be completely honest, the results of my first foray into hybridizing may well have been the results of work done by ants and not what I did at all. Because it was my first attempt I never thought about identifying the six flowers I pollinated, and consequently didn’t tag them, so that the resulting six seed capsules may well not have been from the work I did at all, but from work done by ants that were present at the same time.”

Tash – I think you would be wise to curtail your brom purchases until you have sorted out your problem with rot. This brings to mind another possible cause; your problem may have nothing to do with your growing conditions, and you may have imported it with plants you have purchased or swapped from other sources even though it wasn’t apparent at the time... Food for thought!

Karen – As for your comment “Interesting to see the other seedlings I've got that supposedly come from Moon Tiger. All of them are so different, and this is just a small selection. I wonder why my beauty is so different. These are all Moon Tiger seedlings”. As Moon Tiger is not shown as a registered hybrid on either the BCR or the FCBS Photo Index and if you haven’t got the parentage of the cross written on the label I can only refer you to my comments in the answer to Colleen above.

Well as usual, I’ve taken up more space than I probably should have and I’ll finish now with a few more pic’s. Just for a change they are of a few different brom gardens we recently visited and which belong to some of our Brom Society members.

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 17, 2012
5:51 PM

Post #9010475

Learning, learning, all the time. I got this off the web regarding registering cultivars, and I don't feel my pretty baby is ready to be registered yet. She needs to go through all the stages of flowering and pupping first, and I really don't even know what size she will be yet. So maybe in a year or two I can follow up with the required photos of plant, pups (to ensure they are true to the mother plant), and the flower itself. This is a copy of the extract I refer to: Quote:

CHOOSING CULTIVARS TO BE NAMED
The most important decision you must make before attempting to register a cultivar is to satisfy yourself that the cultivar is truly unique and recognizable. Cultivars should be grown through several cycles of pupping and blooming to ensure that they are stable and reproduce consistently. Another reason for having the period of testing is so that you have more than one plant in existence. It would not be in the interests of Registration if there were only just the one plant and nothing to propagate asexually when this dies.

"Recognizable" should mean that the cultivar has unique characteristics which allow it to be identified or recognised without a tag, especially by someone other than yourself. This decision is yours to make and your best judgment is required to prevent the registration of large numbers of essentially identical plants under different cultivar names. For instance, if you make a hybrid grex consisting of a variety of clones or cultivars, selecting and registering only the truly unique clone or clones is the most appropriate way to proceed. The next appropriate thing to do is to destroy the balance of the grex.
End of Quote.

This is what I had been wondering about, thinking my plant was yet still too young. I will live with it for as long as it takes and give her a name that suits. So lesson 1 down, many more to come, I'm sure.

Karen

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

February 18, 2012
1:34 AM

Post #9010701

wow nev thats a awsome cacti in your 1st pic.
How big do seedling broms need to be before i repot them from the the containers i sowed them in? Do i let them go or give them a fresh mix? more peat moss or something different? Still in container as there pretty small still? Do they need fertilizer?. thankyou!
I got a pup starting on this unnamed one..excited! hehe!

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 18, 2012
3:30 PM

Post #9011346

Hi everyone,

Well I got stuck into the re-potting my Billbergias yesterday and ended up doing about fifty; there’s still quite a lot to do but I’ll keep plugging away and I’m sure I’ll eventually get them done. The next thing I’ll have to do is make up a Price/Swap List of the extras and see if I can make a bit more space on the bench by unloading a few, so if anyone’s interested in buying/swapping any Billbergias, just drop me a message and I’ll send you a copy of the list when it’s completed.

I’m not going to be able to get back into my Hotmail account, so therefore it looks like all of the email addresses of my friends are gone and I have to start from scratch. I intend opening a new account with another provider and as soon as it’s sorted out I’ll put up the new Email address and ask you all to contact me so I can renew my list of contacts.

Karen – As for the requirements for registering a plant, I personally think you need to wait until it is at the very least mature and has produced a pup or two which is the same as the mother and is stable. You didn’t say who had written that information you accessed from the www.

Judging by some of the new plants I see being registered, these rules are definitely not being followed and personally some of the plants should be thrown in the bin marked “crap”. If we think about this recommendation; just say we have bred a batch of seedlings and after initial culling we are left with fifty “possibles”.

We now have to grow these on until we have at least three or four generations to satisfy ourselves they produce stable pups which are true copies of the original plant. Given that each plant will have at the very least, doubled in size each year; where are we going to keep all of these plants?

Next, from these fifty plants we select the two or three best to be registered. This leaves the remainder which although not worthy of registration, are still reasonable plants. They now expect the grower (who has invested four or five years of time, money, potting mix and pots into this venture) to simply destroy the rest of the seedlings without selling a few to get some money back for what has been outlaid during this process. Do they honestly think this is going to happen? If they do they have rocks in their head.

I think you need to contact the BSI Cultivar Registrar at the address I posted previously and get the current rules “direct from the horse’s mouth”. If they are the same as you got from the www, is it any wonder why the majority of growers now refuse to register their plants.

Breeindy – Although that cactus is a magnificent specimen, I don’t know if you noticed the real reason I posted that pic. which is, the cactus is actually the host on which a large Tillandsia Secunda is growing. This is a very interesting brom because it grows a rather large flower spike (inflorescence) and from everywhere there was once a flower, it then produces a pup. I have tried to enlarge the pic to show this and although it’s a bit blurred, you can still see all the pups.

That’s it for today, more potting awaits me.

All the best Nev.

The first pic is the (blurry) close up of the Tillandsia Secunda on the cactus in yesterday’s pictures, followed by a few more garden shots.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 18, 2012
4:35 PM

Post #9011400

Hi everyone. The plumber will be here tomorrow to finish the plumbing of the tanks then I can start to get some organisation back in the SH. My son sent me a pic of what he's been doing with some of his tils. I think they look great and i reckon you could probably do it with some of the minis as well. Certainly would save a bit of room. His broms are looking great . I've tried to get him to come into the thread and have a chat but he's being a bit stubborn at the moment. I suppose he thinks that I tell him about anything new that's going on so he doesn't need to, but he's got a very good memory about anything that he reads or hears and I think that could only be a plus for the likes of me. I'll put up some pics of his SH. Have a great day everyone. Colleen

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 18, 2012
8:18 PM

Post #9011603

Hi again everyone,

My saga continues;...I don't know whether or not you're aware of the dramas I've been having with Hotmail since I had a recent computer virus, but the upshot of it is, that my Hotmail account has been blocked and as my 'short term memory' is almost buggered, I'm unable to answer some of the questions they're asking me to prove I am who I say I am (if that makes sense) to get it opened again.

Consequently I've lost all the email addresses and lists of what swaps I had going and who I owed what to. This is very embarrassing; as it looks like I'm trying to dodge my part of the deals and until I can make contact with a couple of people who I only communicate with by email, I just have to hope that they see my name on Face book or one of the forums and can contact me through there as all of their email addresses were in my Hotmail account.

I know it's like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted, but from here on I'm keeping all the names and addresses in a notebook, and not the computer bloody type either!

Sorry to take up valuable "brom time" with this message, but it's the only way I have of contacting some of my brom mates I need to contact, and if any of you are reading this, could you please send me a message so I can contact you with my new email address as I have been advised not to put it up in a post here and other forums as I had previously intended.

All the best, Nev
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 18, 2012
8:46 PM

Post #9011618

Hi everyone. Just back from the markets, then a visit to the park. A very hot day, so feeling a bit out of sorts from the heat.

Colleen, are your son's tillandsias in plastic bottles? Will be interested to see how they go, as tills prefer lots of fresh air blowing around them, but some could like to be enclosed, I don't know. The SH looks good. And glad you are getting there with the plumbing. Will be great when it is all done.

Nev, I have forgotten the page where I found that quote about registering, but the contact address was the same email and contact person's address that you gave me. I was rather thrown about tossing out what might be good plants. Seemed rather extreme to me too. I don't think d-mail messages can be read by others, only the public forums. I wouldn't trust facebook though. Correct me if I'm wrong. I have put my email address on closed forums without any problem, but wouldn't put it on a public forum.

Nev, that T. Secunda is amazing (and so is the cactus). I do have one (the till, I mean) but I think it will be a very long time before it flowers.

Speaking of unregistered names, I found this one called Neo. Ostrich at the markets this morning. With good light, I think it might colour up some and be quite a nice plant. The neo on the right is a noid.

Karen

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 18, 2012
9:11 PM

Post #9011639

Karen, yes they are plastic bottles but the til is actually hanging out the side or at least will be able to when it grows. He's put mostly gravel and perlite in the mix so it is well draining. He will soon find out if they'll be okay I suppose. Colleen
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 19, 2012
1:11 PM

Post #9012221

Hi everyone,

Colleen – John’s shade house is looking good and all the plants hanging on mesh reminds me of someone else’s shade house I’ve seen recently.

I wish you could talk him into joining our little group as I get the distinct feeling of being outnumbered by the girls as I seem to be the only bloke that ever comments and another bloke or two would be good.

When I first quickly glanced at the pic’s I didn’t notice the Tillies in the bottles. It wasn’t until I looked more closely a second time that I actually took in what I saw. I was going to comment on these Tillies in the plastic bottles but I see that “eagle eye” Karen has beaten me to it.

I have a few Tillies but am by no means what I would call a “Tilly Person” as the bits and pieces I have were given to me by different friends as little gifts and I think it’s nice to keep these things to remember these people by, as some are now deceased. What I know about Tillies is that they like an abundance of circulating air, hence the nickname “air plants”. In habitat they grow on trees, cactus and hang from twigs on small bushes as well as growing on overhead telegraph wires.

I have found they don’t like excessive moisture and prefer a dry environment rather than a damp one with their roots fully exposed to the air at all times. I rarely if ever water mine except in excessively hot weather when I’ll give them a bit of a fine spray every couple of days in the early morning. I find that because I live in what could be roughly called a maritime climate, they seem to get sufficient moisture from the air.

I think that growing in a plastic bottle the atmosphere would be too humid for their liking and may cause rot; but then on the other hand I’ve seen many bromeliads go against popular beliefs of their preferred culture. The only way to ever know how these things will work is to experiment, and if it doesn’t work, you don’t do it again... I must say though that they do look very artistic and it’s great to see John making use of a resource that would otherwise be put in the bin.

Karen – Your Til. Secunda shouldn’t take too long to flower. I’ve had several from small pups which have flowered after about four years; in fact I have one now that’s pushing up quite a large flower spike after which I’ll have dozens of pups. They’re certainly a very attractive and interesting plant, and what’s more they’re easy to grow as well.

As for the two attractive Neo’s you posted, firstly they prove that reasonable plants are available at markets even though a lot of professional growers shun such places for buying brom’s from; and secondly they just prove what I’ve been saying about there still being some very nice brom’s about which don’t have names. I don’t know where the name “Ostrich” came from, but it too is unregistered, so probably a “nurseryman’s name“or a “pet name” someone has given it. As you say, with good light and more maturity it will eventually show more colour and I’d be interested to see another pic of it then.

That’s about it for today and I’ll finish with some more random pic’s, this time of previous Illawarra bromeliad Society annual shows.
1st is Neo Gympie Delight, 2nd is Unknown Cryptanthus, 3rd is Tillandsia Ionantha, 4th is Aechmea 'Blood Stain' and 5th is a Neoregelia NOID and just to prove there is a place for NOIDS, this one won 1st prize for Neo in the Novice Section

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 19, 2012
2:44 PM

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Just popping in to say hello this morning. Colleen, hope those plumbers do their thing and get the water situation sorted out for you. You won't know yourself when its all done.

Nev, I just love that Ae. Bloodstain. Will be off to the post office soon to send off your box. I buy a plant because I love it, not because of its pedigree. My pedigree ain't that good either :). It is great that a noid can win a prize in a show. And it will be great if my secunda does flower soon. I think I've had it nearly a year.

Karen

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 19, 2012
3:25 PM

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Hi all,

thought I had better say hello just to let you know I am still keeping up with your posts, have just been really busy and haven’t had the time to add one myself.

I wish I could say that we have been making progress with the shadehouse restoration but that’s not the case unfortunately … so many other things needing to be done. I often wonder how we ever managed to keep up with everything when we were both working full time as in retirement we just don’t seem to manage nearly as well … I guess these days we tend to put things off till tomorrow (or the next day) when we couldn’t do that before. We both have health issues that slow us down a bit too and the weather has been unkind as well .. so hot and muggy and scattered showers as well, which means downing tools and it’s so very hard to get started again once we stop.

Nev, I never cease to be impressed by photos from your amazing brom collection. Two neos that are on my “must have” list as soon as the shadehouse makeover is a little further advanced are Blake Street Beauty and Gympie Delight ... and there are so many others too.

Anyway, had better get out and make a start before it gets too hot … today is predicted to be the hottest day of the summer … and just as it seemed it was about to cool off.

I have added photos of a couple more of my lovely broms without names ... if anyone can give them one that would be great, thanks.

Bye for now, Shirley

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perke_patch

February 20, 2012
4:51 AM

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wow Shirley, I do like that first neo of yours. That is a lovely plant. I would happily swap you a blake street beauty pup for a pup of yours. I also have gympie delight. Your second pic looks like several neo that we have but I think you will need to wait for it to mature to see which one it turns into.

We seem to be discovering aechmeas shooting up flower spikes every day at the moment. Found another couple today. I am only attaching 1 pic this time as I keep losing my posts when attaching more than that. This pic is ae black ice which we discovered last week with a spike coming. It is looking good now.

Wendy

DG it turned it round again. it is not turned in my album. stupid program

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perke_patch

February 20, 2012
4:54 AM

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and this one is ae felicity and if it posts it the next one is a NOID. at first we thought it was pectinata as the ends of the leaves had a bit of a red flush. Then we thought it might be some type of mexicana hybrid. now Johnny thinks it might be a portea. I have posted a pic on fb forums but so far no firm naming. If anyone knows what it is I would love to be able to name it.

Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 20, 2012
1:09 PM

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Hi everyone,

Well the rain is back again, it “hammered” down all night last night and is still raining this morning. Yesterday was a wasted day, as far as re-potting as I got none of it done. Spent all day travelling back and forth and having more scans and tests. I sometimes wonder if they just dream up all these tests to waste my valuable brom time, as it seems like its just one test after the other lately and still no answers as to how they’re going to fix my problem/s. Any of you who have been on this “medical merry-go-round” understand just what I’m saying. To make matters worse, when we got to the nuclear medicine place yesterday we were told there was an hour’s wait because the injections for the test were late. More bloody time wasted!

Anyway, back to brom’s; everything in the garden is bounding away with all the rain we’ve been having which unfortunately increases the rate at which the re-potting needs to be done and it’s a bit like watching a dog chasing his tail.

Breeindy – Sorry, but I forgot to answer the question in your post of the 18th. Regarding the size of seedlings before you re-pot them. I assume you’re talking about small plants you are growing from seed; in which case I can only say what I do, and I too would be interested to hear what others do as well.

Once they germinate in the container, I let them grow until they have at least five leaves. I find at this stage they probably need to be thinned out a bit as I always seem to sow far too much seed. I prepare some more containers with a similar mix to the one they are growing in and using a pair of splinter forceps, I transplant the largest plants into these other containers allowing about three rows of seven plants (a total of 21 per container). These are now sprayed fortnightly with ½ strength Phostrogen.

When these plants have reached a height of about 2” I then repeat the process and transplant them in smaller groups of 12 into other containers in a mix consisting of equal parts of fine Coco Peat, small size Perlite and chopped up sphagnum moss. To each container of mix I add a level teaspoon of Blood and Bone and mix it through thoroughly. They remain in these containers until they are large enough (usually about 3-4” high) to go into individual 3” pots for which I use just fine (aged) pine bark. I usually put about 1gm of Osmocote around the top of each small pot and that’s all the feeding they get until they are eventually potted into 4 ½ “ pots in my usual bark mix with about 5gm of fertilizer added to the top of the mix.

Let me hasten to emphasise that’s how I do it in my climate which would be much different to the climate in which you are growing your plants, and it’s best if you can get “local knowledge” if possible.

Shirley – You mention about all of the plants you see and like, what I’d suggest to you is you start a “Wish List” like the rest of us have. This is a list of all your “Wants” (along with the name of the person who posted the pic). This is so when the time comes to chase up a particular plant, you have the name of a contact who can tell you where you can get the plant. When your shade house is finished and the chase for plants is on, I’m sure there will be one of us here who can help you out with a swap or a purchase.

I like your two NOIDS, especially the first one which I think is rather unusual with its nice soft colouring which overlays the very faint variegations. Your other plant could be one of many plants (which are collectively called Radial Reds). There is a pretty common one around Queensland called Pin Stripe but the one I think it could be is (a young) Rosea Striata which as well as having the pin stripes sometimes has a bit or random dark spotting. It could be either of these or hybrids from them.

Wendy – You’ve done it again! That is, given me a stiff neck while I’m trying to look at the “sideways” pic of your beautiful Ae Black Ice, it’s a beaut!

Your other plant I think could be Ported Alatisepala (I think that’s how you spell it) See if you can get a pic of an open flower which will make identification easier.

Well that’s it for today; got to get ready to go for more tests (no re-potting today either); so I’ll finish off with a few more pic’s of some of our past show plants (None of which are mine). 1. Tillandsia Tectorum 'Enano', 2. Tillandsia Fuchsii var. Fuchsii 3. Neoregelia 'Bobby Dazzler', 4. Neophytum 'Galactic Warrior' and 5. Quesnelia Arvensis, which even without flowers is still popular due to its nice foliage banding.

All the best, Nev.





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77sunset
Merino
Australia

February 20, 2012
10:30 PM

Post #9014229

Hello all. I have been reading all the posts and looking at the broms with great interest.
Love seeing all the different pics. I do wish but am realistic in knowing I dont have the room and most wouldnt be so beautiful here.
My broms are going mad with pups. I will have to get them off the mums soon .
I find that most seem to put out pups without bothering to flower first.
This year though most of my neos flowered. I like the aechmeas for flowering as you can see the flower above the plants.
The neo flowers all look similar to me . Small and blue.
I am posting a few pics and would like to clarify IDs if possible.
pic 1...some of my bil Hallelujahs in flower. First time ever.
pic 2...2 large pups on neo Jewellery Shop
pic 3...neo nivea...love the white throat.
pic 4...aech organensis ??
pic 5...neo Break of Day 2 pups..


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77sunset
Merino
Australia

February 20, 2012
10:41 PM

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A few more..
pic 6...neo Majestic Red
pic 7...nidularium fulgens..I love this one
pic 8...neo Red Gold ?? looks like a blanchetiana to me.
pic 9...marked as blanchetiana.. not like any of the blanchetianas I have seen though. It is a nice darkish green with a yellow edge and has no sharp serrated edge. There are a few soft spikes on one leaf.

pic 10...large blanchetiana, around 2' tall at the moment.

Any help with ID is appreciated.
I should know better than to buy from eBay, but most of my broms were bought a few years ago now before I met all you lovely brom addicts.
Some i have from the lovely Sue and a couple from Leisa, which I treasure.
Jean.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 21, 2012
12:56 PM

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Hi everyone,

Well the last day of three days of tests today, so let’s hope these bloody doctors can now find something they can do to help me walk properly again, so I can really get stuck into all my re-potting.

Apart form Jean, where have all of the other forum members gone?

Jean – Good to see you posting again and you really made a grand entrance with all of the nice pic’s

As for the ID’s of your plants

1. Bill. Hallelujah

2. Probably young Neo. Jewellery Shop (although should be more coloured at that size so perhaps need more light)

3. Neoregelia Nivea, which is a species.

4. Could be Ae. Organensis but without flowers it’s not definite. There are many, many different forms of this one, see the FCBS Photo Index for examples of just a few. As well as that they breed regularly with other Aechmeas and usually the Organensis parent is dominant which results in even more “look alikes”

5. Could be Neo Break of Day but like Neo. Jewellery Shop should have more colour. I hang mine right up high beneath 75% beige shade cloth and I’ll post a pic below for comparison.

6. Sorry I don’t know this one, but it’s nice

7. Nidularium Fulgens, there’s no mistaking that spotted foliage

8. I don’t know what it is but I would say it isn’t Neoregelia Red Gold as it should be much more coloured at this size.

9. Sorry, I can’t help here except to say definitely not Aechmea Blanchetiana, but post a pic again when it flowers. Although the shape says differently, there’s something about its colour that is remotely like a young Billbergia Dorothy Berg grown in low light (See bottom pic on FCBS Photo Index)

10. Could be a yellow Aechmea Blanchetiana, but it needs much more light to bring out the yellow colour. Down here on the South Coast of N.S.W. we grow them right out in the open and still don’t get the great colour that growers in Queensland do.

That's about the best I can do for you Jean, maybe someone else has diferent ideas or can fill in some of the "holes".

That’s about it for today and I’ll finish with a few more random pic’s 1. Neo Break of Day (Grown in high light) 2. Neo Pimiento,
3. Neo. Mon Petite x Neo Tangerine, 4. Tillandsia Bulbosa 5. Neoregelia Guinea (species)

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

February 21, 2012
1:13 PM

Post #9014887

Thank you Nev, I appreciate the info. I really cant put any broms up higher than the bench as my greenhouse is only a cheapie with a very light frame. I will try moving them around a bit more to give those at the back more light.
I had to put a piece of shadecloth over the whole roof area when we had those extremely hot days ( very warm for here anyway )
Some of the neos were burnt on the leaves . I will move them and put the ones that need more light in their place.
I cant put my blanchetianas outside as we do get very cold. Would they stand it in winter ?
I may have to move them anyway as they are growing too large for the greenhouse.
I do have some broms that live out just under shadecloth , which seem to like it. The winter cold has not bothered them at all . Some are neos but most are bils..
I still have my old mother bil. Gerda , living out in the open where she has been for years.
She is covered in weeds but still putting out pups. I have enough of them so just leave her & her brood to do as they like out there.

Jean.
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 21, 2012
1:31 PM

Post #9014912

Hi everyone. Well, lots of work to do in the SH again now that the plumber has finished. I'm putting all the beautiful Vrieseas together to try to get a bit of artwork going. lol Some have lost their colours a bit as I have had them in more shade as I've moved everything for the plumber to do his job. Now I have to gradually re-acclimatise them. Lots of work to do. The SH can be watered with rainwater now so I'm sure the broms will love that. Nev I do hope that the doctors can work out a treatment for you after all these tests. Love all the pics especially Neo Pimiento. Don't forget to save that one for me please. Must go and see to the boys. Colleen

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 21, 2012
1:36 PM

Post #9014923

good morning everyone
Nev I hope your tests go well and the Dr's can get things sorted for you. The ol' medical merry-go-round is never fun.

Well the weather has been a bit odd up here, rain then fine then a bit more rain... just enough to bugger up work for hubby so he's only worked one day this week so far, but it's been good having him around as we had a few things to get done.
So he's home again today and will be put to good use, lol, mowing, and tonnes of potting! LOL.

We have managed to spend a whole lot of money on broms... more than we could afford... but they were plants we just couldn't knock back for the price, I'm sure most of you have found yourself in that kind of position before. So we pulled everything together that we could and did it... yup baked beans on toast for the next week, lol.
So they arrived yesterday by bus instead of post, so we had to make a trip to the 'big smoke' to pick them up. Got home late and unpacked them and sat them into buckets and tubs and anything we could find... so today is going to be a big potting day.

I'll put some photos up once they are done.

Love all the pics everyone has been putting up, I promise I will have some soon to be put up, oh and Shirley, I too like the one on the left, I wonder what it is.

Ok I have keep moving, sorry it's only a short one, but I'll do anyone post soon with pics :)

Tash
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 21, 2012
1:51 PM

Post #9014948

Lovely pics up again today. Love that neo. guinea, and t. bulbosa. Jean, lovely to see so many pics from you too. Colleen, so pleased for you that the plumber has finished.

Hello everyone. Must be storm season, as we've had one 3 days in a row in the evening, and even one in the morning yesterday. Luckily they only side swipe us here, and I am happy to get any rain I can get.

Nev, all the best on your medi-go-round. I start again on Friday, another Monday, and 2 more to be made for next week. I hate the hospital appointments. They book you in at 1pm, and everyone else as well, so its always a long wait, sometimes several hours if an emergency comes in. Then you are just a guinea pig (well, it is a teaching hospital).

On the bright side, it is a lovely cool morning and the birds are singing. Just perfect. I love these mornings when traffic noise is quiet and the sounds of nature fill the air.

Karen
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 21, 2012
5:35 PM

Post #9015173

I'm still here and tangling with a new computer. Old fashioned enough that I hate my routine turning upside down.

Sorry to all for the excursions to the medical community. Karen, I agree with the appointments set at that time of day. It shoots the whole day. You can't start a large project in the morning and are too tuckered to do anything when you arrive back home.

Nev, I am charmed by that Tillandsia bulbosa, what a delightful plant. Thanks much for sharing all the photos, correctly ID'd. It truly is appreciated.

If I may ask a favor, many of you have commented that you love a specific brom. Would you mind elaborating on your passion for this or that particular plant. Do you love it because of the ease of care, pretty coloration, blooms? I am always curious... Kristi

BTW ~ if and when I ever figure out the pictures on this new computer, I'll try to post a couple of the greenhouse bloomers.
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 21, 2012
11:25 PM

Post #9015449

I Hope your can get your pics up, Kristi. I love broms for different reasons. One might be the colour, another is special shape, or a leaf pattern, or even the flower can be the main attraction.

I got my eBay wins in the mail today. A neo. Gespacho "Jazzy" pup looks very promising, and Neo. Chiquita Linda is a real mini that will hopefully colour up like its parents. I also decided to give that neo. mini Purple Grape a chance. If it colours up, well and good.

Karen

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perke_patch

February 22, 2012
6:03 AM

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Hi all
Sorry Nev, I wasn't around last night. We've also been to the hospital for a visit, however we had really good news. Before they started Johnny on the new infusion drug his markers were up over 20 (normal is 4). Now this week after 6 infusions his levels are 6 so pretty good result. He asked how long he would be on the infusion and the doc said as long as he wants to keep the rheumatoid arthritis at bay so I guess that means for life. Next week we go back to immunology and we'll see how those levels are. All up I think he is feeling pretty good. Today he finished painting the front fence and it looks really great. Nw he's ecided he wants to paint the inside of the house. WE've even chosen colours and have the brochures here to select the exact tone.

Nev I've been repotting some of our larger seedlings fom you. Like the blanchetiana x ones and today the xportmea. I've also potted up all the alcantarea seedlings into big pots. I'm pleased with what we have and look forward to seeing them have another growth spurt now. They are coming on nicely.

Pic 1. I found out the name of that NOID I posted the other night. It is aechmea macrochlamys (http://www.bromeliad.org.au/pictures/Aechmea/macrochlamys.htm )

Pic 2. Karen I've also posted a pic of neo aussie ostrich. It came from wildfire nursery which is Cheryl Basic. hope your medical appts go as well as Johnny's and yours too Nev.

Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 22, 2012
1:14 PM

Post #9016088

Hi everyone,

Well at last all of the tests are finally over and I don’t have to waste any more time at the doctors until next week when I go to get the results. I’ve most of my important email addresses back in my computer and I can now start sorting out plants to complete swaps and orders which I had started with brom friends.

Jean – What state do you live in Jean? When I said about increasing the light I assumed you were in Sunny Queensland, but when you said you get it very cold in winter makes me suspect you live elsewhere.

Getting the maximum amount of light right can sometimes be a juggling act and is certainly a case of trial and error, and sometimes the odd leaf gets burnt along the way, but if you watch any plants new to an area closely you can often see the early signs which warn you to move the plant before a burn occurs and the most common sign is bleaching of the leaf colour. This usually happens gradually, unless of course you move it from a shady spot straight into a sunny spot without gradual acclimatisation which is best started during the winter when the sun is less intense.

You mention your Bill ‘Gerda’, can you post a picture as the pic’s I have seen elsewhere are not real good, and I’m particularly interested in the leaf colour and any banding. It sounds like a very hardy brom and worth considering in a collection, or even including into a breeding programme to instil extra vigour into the seedlings.

As for how Blanchetiana handles the cold, perhaps someone on here that grows them could better advise you.

Colleen – I’m sure your shade house will come along now in leaps and bounds and your plants will respond beautifully to all the work you have put into it. You say you can now water your plants from your tanks which should be great also as I once read where a lot of South Australian water was very alkaline; is this the reason why you installed the tanks or was it a cost factor?

Your first plant in your pic’s interests me, is it a xCanmea and if so do you have a name for it? Don’t worry about the Neo Pimiento, if I could have shown the rear of the name tag you would have seen your name written there so I can’t forget, so you won’t miss out, I promise.

You have a nicely balanced mixture of genera there in your group pic, but I’d be a bit worried about that monkey, he’s thinking about getting up to something!

Also your Nidularium Longiflorum with its “rose like” flower head was probably one of the first to be introduced into collections and is still a very handy and popular plant which will grow and flower when growing in a reasonably well lit position to a place of deep shade, and the flower head seems to last for months with the smallish white flowers in between the red bracts.

I like your vriesea as well, and the centre of the leaves which are darker in colour than the outside leaves makes for a pleasing contrast, what is the name of it and is this its natural colour or is it a Red Chestnut saying, “I want more light”?

Tash – Nice to see you posting again I think I’ll have to have a serious talk to you two about spending all of the budget on brom’s, but then on the other hand if it’s a hobby you both like, I guess it’s better than puffing your money away with smokes or “blowing” it on grog or pokies; and besides there’s nothing wrong with baked beans, I’ve been having half a tin of baked beans with a couple of poached eggs on toast for breakfast for years; it’s a god healthy breakfast.

I have a friend who buys plants from a lady up North somewhere and she always sends his plants down by bus as well, and they always arrive in excellent condition and saves a lot on postage too, but as you say, you have to be able to get to the bus depot to pick them up. I’m sure we’re all looking forward to your photos.

Karen – The little Neo Guinea is a favourite of mine as well, so hardy and easy to grow and it gives such great colour if suspended just beneath the shade cloth. I have three or four seedlings of a Guinea I crossed with itself and they are shaping up with some unusual colouring.

Storms seem to be all over the country at present, as we are even getting them on a regular basis down here as well and in the previous years we never seemed to get any. I wish I could “bottle” what’s in the storm water; it just seems to freshen everything up so beautifully and leaves that wonderful “rain foresty” smell. I agree with you about all these tests being a “pain in the bum”, but then we’re both “still on the right side of the grass” so we have that to be thankful for.

Kristi – I’ve never had the problem of having to come to grips with a “new” computer as any I’ve had have always been "hand-me-downs" and they seem to work at about the same pace that I do so they suit me. Occasionally though when I get a different one, some of the programs I’m used to have been updated and I have to learn to use them all over again which is a bit frustrating sometimes.

Yes the little Til. Bulbosa is a favourite of mine as well, even though I’m not really into Tillies. I think there’s something about the bulbous shape that I find attractive and unusual and also they’re quite inexpensive, I got one at Bunnings a while back for about $4.

Anyway, I’m sure you’ll conquer your new computer and we all look forward to then seeing your pic’s.

Karen – Neo Gespachio is a good choice and is a very good grower and pupper which when given good light really gives great colours. Chiquita ‘Linda’ as you say is a true miniature and is a result of Lilliputiana X 'Fireball' and as well all know, they don’t come much smaller than Neo Lilliputiana. I seem to remember that the flowers in this plant were much more prominent than other Neo’s of similar size, but you’ll just have to wait and see, maybe I’m confusing it with something else. Purple Grape is a very nice dark mini although not as small as the previous one. It is another cross using Fireball, but this time it’s crossed with Granada.

Wendy – Great news about Johnny’s treatment; when you get a result like that it makes it all worthwhile, but tell him not to start wearing himself out with work; after all, he must leave a bit of time for relaxation and fishing.

Pleased to see the seedlings are growing well for you. I suspected they would do much better up there in the warmth than they do down here. Some of mine are getting a bit of size now also but they just don’ look happy and I sometimes think I can hear them saying, “Send us up North!”, “Send us up North!”, “Send us up North!”.

I never would have guessed the name of your Aechmea in a million years as I’ve never seen one before, but it just goes to show that some of the species are just as beautiful as the hybrids. I’m not familiar with your Neo Aussie Ostrich either, but it is a very attractive variegated plant and in my opinion you can’t have too many variegated plants as they certainly break up the monotony of just greens and reds.

Well it’s time I go now but before I do I must tell you that I came across some great pic’s on http://www.bromeliadforum.za.net/forum/index.php taken by Andrew Devonshire of New Zealand.
They were pic’s of the annual show of the BSNZ (Bromeliad Society of New Zealand) and this society also has a very good web site well worth a look at www.bsnz.org

Andrew has kindly given me permission to share his pictures with all of you who visit this site and for that I’m very grateful as I’m sure you will be also. There are many pictures and it will take quite a few days to show them all, but I’m sure you’ll agree it’s something a bit different to the norm and for you fanciers of foliage vrieseas aka Tash and Jason, Wendy and Johnny and Colleen just to mention a few, you will see some quite exquisite new hybrids.

1. Neo. Apricot Nectar x Jewellery Shop. 2. Billbergia Domingos Martins. 3. Vriesea Blondie.
4. Neoregelia ampullacea purpurea x Neoregelia Wee Willy. 5. Neoregelia Bob and Grace

All the best Nev

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 22, 2012
1:52 PM

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Good morning. Wet outside after some overnight rain, much needed. Got up about 2am to get a drink of water, and found this gross monstrous spider in the kitchen sink. Huge body on it, give me the shivers. I don't know how such big things can get in through the little cracks available to it. Wish I knew where they got in so I could do something about it. I'm afraid I have no compassion for such a gruesome monster inside my house. It had to go. I leave spiders alone outside. They can leave me alone inside. This thing was as big as a mouse.

Wendy, so glad Johnny's results are good, and that something is finally working for him. Thankyou for putting up that pic of neo Ostrich. I will see if I can put that pic on my file, as it is the only pic of that plant I've seen.

Nev, you really are a mine of information, thank you. So glad you are getting things sorted out after your computer problems. Darned spammers can really make a mess of things and they don't care, think they are "clever" for having done so. I really need to slow down my brom collecting, but there is always temptation out there. Some more lovely ones in your last post.

Hope everyone has a nice day.
Karen
77sunset
Merino
Australia

February 22, 2012
2:08 PM

Post #9016158

Nev, I just went out to get apic of bil. Gerda for you.
Overcast out there so not good light. I put the first pups in this shadehouse about 2 years ago and they multiply madly.
As you can see from all the white on everything, the magpies love sitting in the tree above the shadehouse.
Half of two sides is open, so plenty of air & light for the plants.
The old mumm ahas long since died out next to the old stump, but I just waded throught he long grass and found pups still growing . Must be one of the hardiest of all the broms. Maybe not beautiful, but probably good to breed for that hardiness.
Originally it came squished in a large pot , half dead and many years old. I tossed all but 2 small pups over next to the tree stump and there it has grown for over 6 years. Old mum has gone but in the pic you can see the remains of each generations base.
The other pics are broms that also live out in the shadehouse. They are growing very large and the winters dont seem to bother them. Most are just noids that I stuck out there so I could put the others in the greenhouse.
I am thinking of putting most of the broms down the back in the fern shadehouse as they do need more room to grow.
Maybe I'll keep a few of the smaller ones in the greenhouse and add more ferns.
If you want any pups from Gerda, let me know.
I'll send some.

All these pics are Gerda. The really green one was when I had the pups down in the old shed.

Jean.

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Merino
Australia

February 22, 2012
2:17 PM

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Forgot the pic of the remains of old mumma Gerda.
the others are the broms in the shadehouse with the later Gerda plants.
Jean.

More decoration from the magpies. Doesnt seem to bother the plants and out in the wild, I'm sure they would be getting the same treatment from the birds.

pic 1 has a Lucky Stripes and 2 that resemble Mary Brett.

pi 2 is a giant brom that just keeps getting bigger.

pic 3 are mainly all types of bils. Going by their flowers, one is Queens Tears and the others noid bils.

pic 4 is the remains of old mumma Gerda and the latest offspring .

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Merino
Australia

February 22, 2012
2:23 PM

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These are pics of the large aechmea, I was told was Mary Brett. I am doubtful as it doesnt look exactly like the pics I have seen.
Certainly grows large though . I have only ever had the one flower from the old mother but the pups get huge. ( very prickly brom )
The giant brom in pic 2 of the previous post is one of the pups.
as are the two in the pic with the Lucky Stripes plant .
Jean.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 22, 2012
6:08 PM

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Good afternoon everyone. Nev where did you get that Vr. Blondie from? It is gorgeous. Have you got a spare? Nev I only put the tanks in to try to save some money. I already had one in the SH but that has now been put onto the pump and connected to the 2 others. If we ever get any rain to fill them it might save me some money. I hope all your tests have been worthwhile. Wendy so glad that Johnny is responding to his treatment. Karen I hope that your's don't take up too much time either and they're all fine. How is your leg going now. They're a bit slow to heal when you have diabetes so you've done well. Must go and do some more in the SH. Colleen ps. Nev that first pic of my brom with the flower coming is AE. nudicaulis "costa rica" I will take another pic now that the flower is out.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 22, 2012
6:37 PM

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Jean, that Gerda looks nice with the bands, even when green. Sure is a good grower. The aechmeas do have some really nice flowers, don't they. I don't like them because of the teeth. My skin is so thin, and I am sure they attack me deliberately

Colleen, thanks for asking. My leg has finally covered itself with skin and scabs and I don't need to bind it up anymore. I think it has done well too considering. The appt. tomorrow is for, finally after 21 months of waiting, a bone doctor re my frozen shoulder, which is still frozen.

Have been down with my broms, bringing in some that are getting too wet for too long. Can't bring them all in but can give some of them a break. Nature is a funny old girl. Too much or too little. My tillandsias are dry, which is good. They love humidity, but too wet and they can rot. I am amazed at the growth my Vr. Bianca has put on. She is looking great at the moment. Haven't got a new pic though. Maybe next time.

I never tire of looking at this crypt. The colours change with the seasons so its always almost looking at a new plant every few months.

Karen


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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 23, 2012
1:44 AM

Post #9016732

Hi all,

another quick hello. Love all the vrieseas and Nev, vriesea blondie, WOW! That neo Bob & Grace is a real eye catcher too.

Another day of rain here and apparently lots more to come too. We have had so much lately and I'm a bit over it all. It really makes progress on the shadehouse makeover slow, but we'll get there. I will post some pics of the makeover as soon as there is something worthwhile to show.

Meanwhile, this is my vriesea 'art deco'

Bye for now, Shirley

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perke_patch

February 23, 2012
6:12 AM

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Karen your colourful little plant in last pic is called marion oppenheimer. It is a lovely little cutie isn't it?

Nev those NZ broms are beautiful aren't they. Wish we could go over there and just bring back a box full but alas quaranteen fees make it impossible to do and seed wouldn't produce the same plants. We'll just have to create our own.

Speaking of creating our own, how do you like the little man I created today? We have named him Brian (don't laugh Jen) He has a tillandsia tricolour on his head and a karwinskiana in his watering can. He looked pretty plain when I brought him home from bunnings yesterday so I gave him some bling. It was too wet to be outside anyway first up this morning. I'm trying to decide whether to go back to bunnings to get some more. Maybe they would sell well for mothers day gifts? what do you all think? I could bling up some more and put some tillandsias in them and I'm sure they would be popular.

Must be off to bed now.
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 23, 2012
1:10 PM

Post #9017312

Hi everyone,

Well after all my email dramas I went to get on the internet yesterday afternoon and I got a message to say the connection couldn’t be made. I thought “here we go again”. After three or four tries I gave up and turned the computer off thinking I’d have to take it to my computer doctor. It wasn’t til later when we were watching the news that I heard that Telstra had caused a lot of inconvenience to a lot of people and businesses after they went off the air for about thirty minutes in the afternoon. I went back into the office and turned on the computer again and tried to get on the internet and “hey presto”, It worked. Thinking back, if I hadn’t seen the news I would have had to pay the computer bloke for at least a “service fee” $60, so it pays to watch the news doesn’t it?

Great to see so many people posting again, the forum’s becoming what it’s supposed to be again.

Karen – You know what brom growers say ...”there’s always room for one more”

Jean - Thanks for the history and pics of your Billbergia ‘Gerda’. I would certainly love a pup and I’ll send you a message with my postal details and we’ll decide on a suitable swap.

Sorry I can’t help you much with the ?Aechmea Mary Brett, I don’t have it in my collection but the inflorescence does look very similar to the one on the FCBS. Mary Brett is a hybrid from Ae. Recurvata crossed with Ae. Caudata but unfortunately the records don’t say which Caudata it was. If the Ae. Caudata used as a parent was Ae. Caudata ‘Eipperi’, that could explain why it’s a large plant as ‘Eipperi’ is pretty large as well. I have a clump which is about three feet high and it may have passed this onto the seedlings.

Colleen – Unfortunately the Vr Blondie isn’t mine. All of those pic’s were from the BSNZ Annual Show as I mentioned, and believe me there’s even better ones to come yet. I never recognised your plant as Ae Nudicaulis ‘Costa Rica’ I thought it looked like a xCanmea; looking at it again it’s probably the fact that the pic was taken looking down on the plant, that threw me off the track.

Your last pic looks like Bill. Pyramidalis which is an old favourite often found in many gardens and often treated as “out of fashion” and “common”, but when you see it flowering en masse it’s really a sight to behold. Allan Ladd who is a North Coast hybridizer has used it in his breeding programme and has produced similar shaped plants only with burgundy coloured foliage which are quite attractive, and I was fortunate enough to acquire two or three of these seedlings.

Karen – If you are getting heaps of rain and you’re concerned the plants you can’t move under cover are staying too wet, just turn the pots on their sides until the rain stops. That’s a beautifully coloured little Cryptanthus, what is its name?

Shirley – I see another nice vriesea has been added to your collection; Art Deco is a cross between ‘Red Chestnut’ and Gigantea and grown in just the right amount of light the foliage will turn quite a nice light yellow/green. We’re all eagerly awaiting pic’s of your make over as it’s always interesting to see what ingenious ideas other people can come up with.

Wendy – I like “Brian”, there’s no doubt about it, you certainly have a creative flair. I think some little Ae Benrathii plants would look good sticking out of “Brian’s head” as well.

Well that’s about it for this morning and I’ll finish off firstly with a couple of pic’s of the Bill. Pyramidalis seedlings I mentioned in my response to Colleen which I’ll follow with some more of Andrew’s pic’s of the NZBS Annual Show.

All the best, Nev.

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shellharbour
Australia

February 23, 2012
1:32 PM

Post #9017353

Sorry I forgot to add the names to the previous pictures.

1. Is a group of the Bil. Pyramidalis seedlings I mentioned in my response to Colleen this morning (Bill. Pyramidalis x Bill. ‘Windigig Special’) 2. Is more of the same, but note the beautiful banding on the underside of the leaves.
3. Neoregelia ‘Cheers’, 4. Neoregelia ‘Chili Verde’, 5. Neoregelia ‘Felix’ x Neoregeila ‘Lilliputiana’.

The pic’s below are: 1. Neoregelia Green Fireball, 2. Neoregelia ‘Julia’, 3. Neoregelia ‘Painted Delight’, 4. Vriesea ‘Blackcurrent Sundae’ and 5. Vriesea ‘Summer Fever’

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 23, 2012
3:12 PM

Post #9017467

Good morning all. Wet here and getting wetter. My hospital appointment today, which means a lot of walking through the rain if it doesn't clear up by lunch time. Can only hope.

Wendy, thank you for the name of the little crypt. We saw those "Brians" at Bunnings last time we were there. Looks neat "dressed up" with the plants.

Nev, Wendy has named the pink cryptanthus - marion oppenheimer. I'll put that on file before I forget. Love all your pics, and the last 2 vrieseas are gorgeous. I always tell myself I can't get any more vrieseas as they tend to grow too big and I can't give them the right conditions to thrive in. Its hard though when I see such beauties. And I will try putting the plants that are in the rain on their sides and hope they'll be OK.

Shirley, I see you are in Brisbane and getting rained on too. I am getting a couple of pots starting to get smelly, and am daily emptying them so they can fill again with fresh rain water. So far no rot, but will keep up the daily ritual until it fines up again.

Here is vriesea Bianca. For whatever reason, she has grown like crazy lately and I am wondering just how big this one gets. Also Kiwi Sunset is starting to colour up again after losing all her colour when under the trees. It is also getting very big though not as large as Kiwi Cream (not pictured).

Karen

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 24, 2012
12:07 AM

Post #9017894

RAIN RAIN GO AWAY …..

I am beginning to think it will NEVER stop. So much work to be done here and so keen to get in and do it but frustrated by all this damn rain.

Colleen, I do wish I could send it down your way.

I guess, thinking back a few years (quite a few) January and February were always wet months … it just didn’t happen for a lot of years ... and it’s a real pain in the butt now that it seems to have returned to the old weather pattern of years ago. Let’s just blame it on global warming !!

Karen, hope you didn't get too wet getting to the hospital, it's rained non stop here this arvo. Also hope your broms wilI be OK. I still have mine under cover … awaiting their new “home” that could be a long time coming. They do get a bit of early morning sun at the moment so that’s gotta be good. I love your vrieseas, especially the Kiwi Sunset … beautiful.

Nev, thanks for the info on Art Deco. Turning the pots on their sides when they are getting too wet sounds like a great idea … I’ll have to try to remember that one. As for the pics of the makeover … it’s just not happening. Once we get a bit of fine weather and catch up with the mowing, we should be able to make some headway.

Anyway, that’s about it for today. ‘AVE A GOOD WEEKEND

Shirley


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perke_patch

February 24, 2012
6:04 AM

Post #9018076

Hi all
Nev I do like those pyramidalis hybrids especially the red colour and banding and the colour of the infloresence is different too. Makes a nice change from the plain green plant with those vibrant red infloresences climbing the palm trees.

Nev I'll give Jen a little marian openheimer to take down to you. Hope it grows for you. I now have 2 pots of it getting quite full so can spare 1 or 2 for you.

I have lost a few plants to centre rot now. seems to be the ones sitting on the ground as they don't have the air flow like the ones on the shelves or in the totems. When I discover the centres getting loose I always bring them in under the verandah, keep the centre dry and only spray the plant with mist every 3 or 4 days. If it is a plant that I really want pups from I wll try to screwdriver it to encourage pups before the rot goes too far. I have done that today to one of my larger tillandsia gigantea x absolutely fabulous. If I lose it I will have to buy another one from Allan Pythian in Maroochydore as that is where I got it from.

We have little guests having a sleepover this weekend while mum and dad pack up and move and clean so I better get to bed now in case we have an early start tomorrow.
Pic is a lovely nidularium madonna which is flowering at the moment.

Night all
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 24, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9018411

Hi everyone,

Well here it is, the weekend already; I managed to get the back grass cut yesterday while there was a two day lull in the rain which leaves me all day today free to get on with the re-potting.

Karen – It seems like I’m in the same boat as you with the foliage Vrieseas as I can’t get any more either due to space restraints so I’ll just have to be content with the plain leaf ones that don’t take up so much room. I guess at least these do have nice long lasting flowers and can be taken inside for a bit of colour, so it saves buying flowers. I think that’s what I like about brom’s the best; There’s a brom for all purposes, inside, outside, sun, shade, garden , pots on rock or in trees or mounted on other things, they’re really fabulous plants!

Shirley – What I said about laying the pots on their sides during periods of extended rain when you think they may be getting water-logged also goes with an added precaution. Often during these periods the plants are growing rapidly and if left on the same side for too long, they will start to turn and grow up toward the light; so each week it’s a good idea to rotate them so the side that is uppermost becomes the lower side. I had a pot of Billbergia Red Raven which was knocked over on the bench by a stray cat and went unnoticed for about a month. When I stood it up, it fell over again as it had started to grow at right angles to the original growth.

Wendy – I was just looking at those Bill. Pyramidalis hybrids yesterday and I should have some pups for sale in the not too distant future; so anyone wanting one, just message me as it will be "first in first served" as they will be in short supply and I’m pretty sure Allan has none left either. It just goes to show how a beautiful plant can be created from a very ordinary and common parent, that’s what makes hybridizing so interesting; you never know for sure what you will get.

As for the Marian Openheimer, thanks for the kind offer, but I have never had any success with Crypts. I would still like a little piece of it though as I have a lovely old friend who grows them and has just come out of hospital after having a nasty melanoma cut out of her leg and is feeling pretty “down” at the moment and I’d like to give it to her to help cheer her up. Crypts. don’t seem to do well down here, and consequently are hard to get but she seems to do really well with them and when we ask her the secret, she just says, “well I live on my own with no company and I often talk to them”. I tried this but it didn’t work for me; but then I said, “if you buggers don’t grow you’re going in the bin” and probably upset them!

That’s a nice Nid. Madonna Wendy. It’s a great plant and as I’ve said on many previous occasions, a much underrated genera which should be in more collections. I have a couple of different forms, one of which is the palest of delicate pinks and a beautiful flower, but unfortunately doesn’t pup as regularly as the other form.

Before I get into the re-potting of Billbergias once more, I have to get some belated orders (thanks to email stuff-ups!) cleaned up and prepared to pack and mail out on Monday. After this my day is free "Brom Time".

I’ll finish with a few more pic’s of the BSNZ Annual Show that Andrew Devonshire kindly gave me permission to use and start with four he unfortunately didn’t get the names of and the final one is Vriesea 'Chestnut Snow'

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 24, 2012
2:34 PM

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Lovely vr's Nev. Gotta love that pink and burgundy stripe one.

Shirley, I ended up cancelling the hospital appointment. It was too wet to go sloshing my way to the bus stop, then up the hill to the hospital in the rain, especially with this chest infection. I rebooked for next month. A nuisance, but hopefully the rain will have cleared by then.

February/March used to be our wet season in the old days, but with such a prolonged drought we have forgotten what it was like. Roads always flooded, mould always grew. We forgot that the drought is abnormal, not the wet season.

Wendy, sorry to learn you are having problems with plant rot too. I hope you don't lose any real good ones. Actually, I haven't found any rot here, yet, but some bad smells, so I emptied and flushed those and left them to dry out. Haven't checked them all yet though.

A small break in the rain, and the ants have gone crazy. Just looking through the window here I can see them swarming all over the fence.

OK, done rambling. Off and away to face the day.
Karen


springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 24, 2012
5:15 PM

Post #9018834

Hi Everyone,
yup it's the weekend and it's raining here today, well showering on and off, would actually be nice if it hangs around today as it's been so hot here, so to have a nice cool rainy day would be nice. Don't want it hanging around for weeks, but for a day or two would be nice :)

Well love all the pics that have been posted as usual, gee there are some nice ones around. I'm trying to work out what we can clear out that we don't really want/need, as space is just so limited and yeah we're having trouble fitting things around already. I am hating having things dumped in deep shade in the garden. We went through a bad time in December of a lot of broms being burnt to a crisp so had to take some drastic measures as most of you know. We had to put up extra shade cloth over existing gardens that are under palms already, just to stop the sun that was managing to get through gaps in palms. This definitely stopped the burning issues we were having which was of great relief, but... now we are seeing the opposite effect and not liking that either! Now they are green, lost their colour and some have in fact sprouted some awful long strappy leaves out the top ruining that lovely shape they previously had, doh!!!! Not happy to see some of our lovely broms now looking grren yuk and strappy!
So it just makes me feel... I don't know... a bit over it! LOL. I mean as in... just annoyed with stupid Summer in the north, too hot for pretty much everyone brom you can think of, a few cope, but not that many, so everything needs to be under cloth, then in another month or so, it needs to come back out and will be fine again until about Nov/Dec. Just makes it hard. I wish we had some huge shade house and they all lived in there, but we don't and can't do that.
So what do you do... downsize to what you can fit... or just keep juggling?? I guess juggling for now and trying to work out a better way of getting through next summer without ending up with strappy broms. Loss of colour I can handle... fact of life up here... you have to over protect them in summer and you get colour back once summer is gone... but the strappy part... no not liking that. I had a nice Neo kautskyii that was starting to colour up months ago... now it's green and has three ugly long leaves hanging out the top, pffftttt. Lucky my other kautskyii stayed in the brom house, not the garden and didn't suffer the same fate.

We are planting some tree ferns and we are hoping ... for starters they survive... (going to be hard to get them started at this time of year) and then hopefully they will be big enough by next summer to provide nice shade without us having to try and tie up shade cloth here there and everywhere, lol.

Anyway enough of my sulking this morning, lol.

I'll add some pics of our newbies... some have sustained a bit of damage in transit or had old damage as some are not young broms.
multiple uploads usually don't work for me... but here goes...
1 Aechmea mexicana variegata
2 Aechmea Samurai
3 Neo Gold Medal - which is actually the variegated form of Neo First Prize, so some of you may know it as that
4 Neo marmorata variegata, although probably looks more albo to me??
5 Neo Persian Carpet

See if they all work?

Tash

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 24, 2012
9:24 PM

Post #9019059

Nice ones Tash. That Persian Carpet is gorgeous.

I got some of my more colourful minis out today for a group pic. There was a blast of sunshine for a short time, so took advantage of it.

Tillandsia cyanea, first flower on this plume. Love it!!!!

And neo. Jewellry shop I think is going past its prime now as it is getting 2 pups.

Karen

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shellharbour
Australia

February 25, 2012
11:35 AM

Post #9019593

Hi everyone,

Well here we are again, Sunday, “the day of rest” I don’t think, still a thousand things to do.

Karen – Bad luck you had to cancel the hospital appointment for another month and hopefully you’ll have better weather next time. Keep your eye on the mail about mid next week.

As for your mini’s, they're only babies yet, but they still show that "Mini Charm". Just wait till you have the pots full and then send another pic so we can see the difference.

Your Till. Cyanea looks beautiful, and one you always know is in flower long before you see it, as it has such a beautiful perfume which is best enjoyed in the early morning or evening. Unfortunately it doesn’t do well for me and as much as I’ve tried, it just survives and never looks anything special.

Remember your ‘Jewellery Shop’ is now under a bit of stress with two new pups on the way and drawing their nourishment from their mother, so to compensate for this, give mum a little bit of extra feeding, remember, you must look after your Mums.

Tash – Yes it’s hard when you have a climate like yours and have to constantly adapt your culture to the changing weather extremes. Fortunately I don’t have the extremes of weather that you people up North do, but then you don’t have to contend with the cold damage in winter time like I do either... To each his own!

Also thinking about your plants getting sunburnt; have you tried putting them out where there's good light in the cooler weather and letting them gradually get used to the sun ? You may still get some bleaching and burning, but I've read where each consecutive generation of pups builds up more resistance each season until they are no longer cooked by the sun. (Excepting heatwaves of course) I haven't tried it but I've read about it a few times now. They say it works in a similar way to when you grow a "touchy" plant from seed and the seedlings can tolerate more of the weather extremes than the mother could.

Unfortunately, you had to do the big change over to the new growing conditions at the worse time of the year and the plants didn’t get a chance to properly acclimatise, but that’s all past now and it’s full steam ahead for a much better time from here on in.

Tree ferns are great companion plants for brom’s as they look so good together, but as you say, it’s not the best time of the year during the heat to plant them; I find that in my area, if I cut off the fronds and just leave the centre new ones which are still curled up, water well each day especially in the top where the new fronds are growing, they usually respond OK.

They’re great pic’s of some very nice plants Tash. Of course being a Neo man, my favourite is the Neo marmorata variegata; I’ve never seen that one before. Was it from a new seedling or was it a sport, do you know anything about its history?

Well time for an early breakfast and then face another day. I'll finish with more NZ pic’s to give you something to look at; firstly four group shots and finally Neo 'Wild Tiger' and I’ll be back tomorrow all going well.

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 26, 2012
12:46 AM

Post #9020254

Hi all. Have had another very hot day. The AC went on when I got up this morning at 6.00am. It is really overcast now and not too bad. But the question is, "Is there any rain in them thar clouds?" I hope so. Nev here's the pic of the "Costa Rica" flower now that it is out. Not too much going on here today. Sorry to hear about the rot in the broms. Hope you all find a cure. [hope I don't get it] I wish I had some room to try some tree ferns. I think they're lovely. I think you have to watch our sun with them but I think that they would probably be okay in the SH. They are very expensive here though. Well i hope everyone has had a lovely day. I'll see you all tomorrow. Colleen

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perke_patch

February 26, 2012
5:08 AM

Post #9020326

Nev if you have a spare pup of that pyramidalis hybrid I would love to buy or swap one,thanks.

Tash we have a few frangipani trees in large tubs that we pull out whenever we need a bit of shade for plants which are not coping with the sun. In winter when they are just sticks they are hidden up the back. we only bring them out when they start shooting and get them used to the sun ready to be used. This seems to work well for us here. We even have a really lovely deep pink one which everyone loves but the whites grow faster so are much bigger.

Colleen that costa rica looks lovely in flower. We have so many aechmeas flowering at the moment. it seems to be the time of the year for them. Some impressive pups on some of them too. We just have to have time to pot them up. Emily did some potting with me this morning. Nev we potted up 3 of your seedlings of calichroma x blanchetiana. Emily did one while I did 2 of them. She does a good job too. She found a branch which had fallen off the pride of india and insisted she had to pot it up too so we will see if it grows now. I also pulled 3 small crows nests out of a pot and was going to bin them but she insisted they had to be potted also. so now she has a nice little collection growing. She is moving up to other side of Toowoomba with her mum and sister tomorrow or next day and I am going to miss her so much although mum says she will bring them down often to see their dad. Anyway Emily is having several sleepovers with me while mum & dad clean up the old house they are leaving.

Must be off to bed now so I can be up early with Emily.

Night, Wendy

Pic 1 is tim plowman x lieboniana. Pic 2 is a billbergia we named fruit salad. (I must try to register it)

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 26, 2012
1:05 PM

Post #9020890

Hi everyone,

Well here it is Monday morning and I can finally get some plants boxed and posted which have been held up ever since the details were locked up in my blocked Hotmail account. Anyway, I have a new account now with a new provider and anyone who still has my old email address, just send me a D-Mail and I’ll send you the new one.

Colleen – Next time it rains again here (and it’s looking that way this morning), I’ll see what I can do about sending a bit down you way to fill your tanks.

Ae Nudicaulis are always very eye catching when they are in flower and even when not in flower, once they have grown for a few years in a pot, they make very interesting plants with the pups growing out in all different angles and directions, quite sculptural. I didn’t realise until I read a recent post on a forum that there are literally hundreds and hundreds of different ones with foliage colour ranging in colour from green with or without banding, to shades of pink right through to a silvery/grey colour again with and without banding, and what’s more they all do magnificently when mounted on a suitable tree with nice rough bark as long as it doesn’t shed any bark.

As for tree ferns, I have the common one along with Bird’s Nest Ferns popping up all over the yard and they seem very easy to grow up here, so maybe I can send you a few down to see if they will grow for you.

Wendy – There is already one order in for a pup off the Billbergia Pyramidalis seedling, and I don’t know how many are on the mother for sure (I think only two) and I always keep one for myself. But I have three of these seedlings (all similar) and no doubt there are probably other pups as well, so I’ll get back to you after I have a look.

Speaking of Frangipani trees, did you know that Tillandsias and other small brom’s grow well when mounted on these trees. I haven’t done any myself but I have friends who have and one bloke in particular has a Till. Cyanea growing beautifully on one (even though we are told that Cyanea should always be grown in a pot)

It’s great to see the “littlies” being interested in gardening isn’t it? I remember when my two sons were around five or so and were one day eating some water melon. I told them if they planted the seed they could grow some more and I’ve never seen anyone move so fast as down to the side garden they went with the plate dotted with watermelon seeds. A short time later they came back quite proud of the fact the seeds had been planted and wanted to know if there would be water melons ready to eat “next week”! Anyway when they had to wait for a few days before the seed came up and saw how slow it was they seemed to lose interest until eventually quite some time later the vines flowered and small fruit started to form.

Anyway, fast forward to when the two melons eventually ripened and had been eaten and Dad was left to dig out the old vines and clean up the garden. While doing so, the fork struck something; it was the plate the watermelon seeds had been on, the boys had planted the plate and all. My wife had to apologise to them both because when she found she was a plate short they were blamed for breaking it and not owning up.

Wendy, what do you call Crow’s Nests? Are they the same as we call Bird’s Nest Ferns down here?

Time for a few more pic’s now starting with No's.1, 2 and 3 which I unfortunately don't have names for, but No 4 is Neoregelia 'Rainbow' and No. 5 is Neoregelia 'Skotak's Tiger'

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 26, 2012
1:48 PM

Post #9020939

Good morning eveyrone. Sunshine! Yes! Probably also means heat too, but things might dry out a bit which would be good at this time.

Nev, thank you for all your comments, and I will take them in hand and follow through. Yes, the perfume on the cynea is lovely, and now there are 2 flowers out on it - double the perfume. It is different, not like anything I've smelled before, but lovely. Those NZ garden pics are gorgeous, as is Wild Tiger.

Colleen, that's lovely colour in that Costa Rica flower. Very striking.

Wendy, that Fruit Salad bill is gorgeous. Enjoy your time with Emily. Seems a shame my grandies have grown up. I miss the child's play. Now its all coy teens.

Nev, a nice lot of pics there, again. I seem to have a weakness for the minis, as I am drawn every time. There are so many, all different. I just love them.

Well, the birds are getting stroppy. I leave them out to fly about for exercise in the mornings and evenings, but they reach a stage where they want to go out and socialise with the wild birds. They let me know by getting noisy and destructive. So I'd better go rescue whatever it is they are attacking.

Karen





springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 26, 2012
7:51 PM

Post #9021320

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the shade ideas, Wendy I like that Frangipani idea, we have two in big pots that are getting some size and shape to them now and next summer... I think they will be of a good size to become portable umbrellas, lol. I like that idea :)
Yup Nev we'll be trying to acclimatise them in Winter, but we did that last year too, had a lot of broms in full sun, like our Tigers, Macho, Kautskyi's etc and they loved Winter's sun, coloured up beautifully and were handling summer ok-ish... we had put up a piece of shade cloth over them just to take the worst of that nasty sun off them and then once December came... all over red rover... burnt to the ...you know what.
Now I know people up here who do have certain broms in full sun, and they do sustain burn and they don't care, but I do. I hate to see beautiful Tigers burnt and curled. Even our blanchies that are supposed to handle full sun... yes have coped... they are still in full sun... but have bleached and have bits of burn. But they are too big to move.
But our plan is... that in about another month maybe two, we can take our topper down in the brom house and all cloth around the yard, and let everything harden up and colour up and then when Summer gets close... yes up with the brom house topper again, but hopefully no cloth around the yard this time. Hopefully the Tree ferns we are planting might have established and acclimatised, and yes the Frangipani mobile shade, lol. Also if we need to add cloth anywhere, we are hoping to use a lower percentage, maybe 30 or 50% as it's under palm trees and it's just where the sun manages to find a clear gap where things get charred.

Nev this is what I have been able to find on the Neoregelia marmorata variegata... It is an article from the BSI journal from Chester Skotak himself... Quote... "Some of the variegated bromeliads I have are quite rare and unusual. I have a Neoregelia marmorata variegata, which came as a sport after many generations of the regular green form. Although this plant took many years to bring it to its present refinement, I feel it is a perfectly balanced variegated bromeliad now and can be improved no further."
Here is a link to the whole article if you'd like to read it http://journal.bsi.org/V25/5/V25(5)-p178.htm

We were quite lucky to get our fingers on this one, we had to consult friend about it's value as we had no idea nor had we heard of one ourselves, but did seem to recollect seeing a baby one in their collection. We rang them and were told, yes grab it, as theirs cost them $80 for a small pup and then someone else we also know up here, they paid $120 for their one last year. So we were quite shocked at how much they go for, and until finding the above link this morning, I had no idea why it was so expensive... but now seeing it's basically a Chester Skotak brom... perhaps that says it all?
It doesn't look a whole lot at the moment, but I'm looking forward to growing the pups up and seeing how they grow and how big they get compared to the standard marmorata.

ok well I had better send, I had this 3/4 written this morning when the power went out! I am so over power cuts where we live, it happens way too often and for too long each time. We have decided to try to save up and buy a generator as it really seriously has become a joke. Went out at just before 8am and came on just after 1pm.
so I probably missed some of what I wrote earlier, but something is better than nothing :)
Tash
perke_patch

February 27, 2012
4:20 AM

Post #9021494

Hi Tash, when we first bought out motor home we also got a generator in case we wanted to camp in the bush. FAT CHANCE hahahaha. anyhow we lugged that big thing around the first year and only used it once when we stopped in the pine forest for a break from driving. we used it to boil the electric kettle. how's that for roughing it??? anyhow last year when we went south we decided not to carry the extra weight and left it at home. We'll probably never use it again.

Emily is sleeping over again. We took her home today to help with the cleaning the yard but I hate to say it... her mother was not very nice to her After that I wouldn't leave her there and I fear for her when she moves to other side of Toowoomba while Chris stays here to go to work. I don't think her mother will cope with 2 young kids alone. If I had clothes here for Rylee I would have picked her up and brought her home too I was so disgusted. After so many days away from mum all Em wanted was mum's attention but she got more attention than was necessary for the situation. Johnny made sure both Chris & Jess knew how he felt about it and sent Chris to rescue Emily so we could take her away. I really do have reservations about her safety. Maybe I am over reacting but I don't think so. Sorry I just had to vent that

I'm off to bed early again. It is tiring looking after young ones. Never a moment to sit and rest. We made chocolate wobbles today for desert after tea. Apparently it is a cross between jelly and mouse. Tastes OK too.

Anyway night all
Chat again tomorrow.
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 27, 2012
12:03 PM

Post #9022095

Hi everyone,

Well I’m slowly but surely getting through the re-potting of my Billbergias, however there’s still quite a few to go before I can then start re-potting my Nidulariums which, like the Billbergias are well overdue for some attention also.

Karen - What sort of birds do you have? I had aviary birds once but about twenty five years ago when working shiftwork, found it less complicated to just feed a few native birds such as Rainbow Lorikeets, Crested Pigeons, Magpies, Satin Bower Birds and miscellaneous other types. This has now escalated to the stage where we are feeding them twice daily and they don’t just come in pairs any more, but by the dozen or in the case of the lorikeets, small flocks.

Some people argue that we shouldn’t feed native birds in our gardens as they become reliant on free handouts and lose their ability to forage for themselves. I disagree as I think that more and more native birds are coming into domestic gardens now because their natural habitat is being destroyed by developers in their quest for the mighty dollar and we have an obligation to assist these native birds by supplementing their feeding as it is our fellow humans who have decimated so many of their own habitats where they previously fed.

Tash – There have been so many ideas put forward to help you try and iron out your cultural problems that I think this is where the real benefit of forums really comes to the fore. I know how frustrating it must be when you have a cultural problem which you don’t seem to be able to solve, but be assured, you aren’t the only one who has these problems.

Every one of us has some sort of problem to try and overcome, be it in the tropics or in the colder Southern states. Just imagine how boring it would be if we all had a perfect climate and growing conditions, there would be no challenge in growing these plants which would no longer make them an interesting hobby. There are just so many different types of brom’s all with slightly differing cultural requirements that it’s impossible to have the perfect climate to suit everything, it just isn’t possible. That’s why some states can grow certain genera to perfection where other states have no success with the same genera whatsoever. It’s just a matter of adapting our conditions to the required environment the best way that we can as well as learning from the experiences of fellow local growers. I don’t think it matters where you live, you’re always going to get the occasional plant damage and sometimes loss whether it’s from excessive heat or damage from the winter cold. When we consider that some of the growers in parts of America and some European countries have to take their plants inside the home for half of the year, our problems pale by comparison..

Since reading your information about the cost of the variegated Neo. Marmorata, my desire to own one has suddenly taken a “nose dive” as it’s just too far out of my budget restraints. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to open the link you posted and I was looking forward to seeing the history of how it was developed by Chester as he has done so many wonderful things with various bromeliad genera. So it looks like it’s up to you Tash and Jason to now grow it to perfection and keep us up to date with lots of pic’s... so the pressure’s now on!

By the way, has anyone read Chester’s book called “Searching for Miss Fortuna” it is a paper-back fictitious account based loosely around some of his forays into the brom jungles hunting for plants and one special Guzmania in particular. It’s really worth reading and certainly good for a laugh.

Time again for a few more pic’s from New Zealand staring with 1. Neo. Pink Champagne x Amazing Grace, 2. Neo. Cheers, 3. Neo. Ampullacea x Wee Willy, 4. Vriesea Splendens or Splendens hybrid and 5. Vriesea Sunset.

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

February 27, 2012
12:43 PM

Post #9022150

Good morning everyone. Well we had some rain and it has cooled down somewhat now. After the rain yesterday I thought that Barmera had turned into a sauna room. Oh, Wendy, such a worry about little Emily. All you can do is keep an eye on her and hope that she'll be okay once the moving thing is over. What about the other little one? Isn't your son bothered by his wife's actions? Good to here that you're getting your broms sorted Nev. I will get you to send some bird nests and tree ferns over if you can for me to try. That will be great thanks. The desert rose seeds arrived and are now planted. We'll see how they go here. If we had more of yesterday's weather they would be right at home. lol. Must go and get the boys ready. Colleen
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 27, 2012
4:19 PM

Post #9022445

Good morning everyone. Nice pics from NZ again Nev. I agree about the destruction of native habitat and the need to help the flora and fauna support life in our gardens. Planting native shrubs for the birds in your area is a great way to go, and water, water, water. Fresh sparkling water.

The 2 birds I have here are rescue rainbow lorikeets. The female has been with me for 9 years after being dragged out of her nest in the wild by crows, falling 50 feet to the ground, and being badly pecked. She was just a fledgling. Her feet were badly broken and her head was pecked, but she was such a little fighter, I had to give her a chance. She came good but it took a year before her feet healed properly. The vets gave her no chance, but they didn't see her will to live.

The other bird, Toby, came in with concussion just last year. He is perfectly fine now, but though I let him out to be with the wild birds, he won't go. Sometimes he might disappear for a couple of days, or overnight, but usually he lasts about half a day then wants back in his cage. They are both very loving little birds to me, but they don't really like each other.

Here is a pic of the little female when she first came to me. She had to be hand fed every couple of hours, but she accepted the situation right from the start and loved to snuggle up to me to sleep. Messy eater though. And years later. Playful and beautiful.

Karen

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perke_patch

February 28, 2012
4:31 AM

Post #9022912

hi all. just popped in to say goodnight. I have both little munchkins here tonight. as Rylee is asleep in the office I am trying to be very quiet so as not to disturb her. I know she will be up early in the morning so I must get some beauty sleep now.

Thanks for all the words of comfort. I was so upset last night about the happenings I just had to get them out. Mum was much more loving today when I went to pick up Rylee so she must have thought about what happenned. Anyway Rylee is stirring so I must get out of here befoe she gets up completely.

Night
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 28, 2012
12:00 PM

Post #9023413

Hi everyone,

Well, it looks like the rain's returned, rained all night and still raining as I write this; the forecast is for continuing “heavy” rain for the rest of the week, so it looks like more time in the garage re-potting Bill’s.

Colleen – See, I said I’d send you down some rain, and you don’t even say thanks; some mate you turned out to be!

I’ll see what I can do about the Tree Fern and Birds Nest ferns, Jean is at the top of the order list and you’re next after her, but first I have to ask the rain to stop so I can go looking for some.

I do have a Bird’s Nest Fern here you’re welcome to if you pay the freight, but I’m afraid it’s about six feet across and I’d have trouble finding a box to fit it in; so it looks like that one will become a feature in our brom garden over at the museum where the girls did a make-over during our last Bromeliad Society Workshop.

I’ll be interested to hear how you go with the Desert Rose seeds, and from what I read about them, once they are established they like it pretty warm and to be kept a bit on the dry side and treated more like succulents. I have a couple of plants Tash sent me and I’ve only just moved them under cover as I didn’t want them getting water-logged with all the rain we’ve been having.

Karen – I love the story about your two little Rainbows; of course they’re not going to fly off with the wild birds, they know when they’re on a good thing, food and water each day and a safe place away from predators, they’d be silly to even think about leaving.

I remember the first time I ever saw Lorikeets was at Currumbin Sanctuary which we visited on our Honey Moon way back in 1963. I can still remember saying to my wife how good it would be if we could feed them in our own back yard as we had never seen them in the local area before. The main parrots we saw in those days were Eastern Rosellas and Crimson Rosellas, and it wasn’t until about ten or so years later that a single pair flew into the yard one afternoon at feeding time, I think they’re beautiful birds and they now make up the majority of the parrots that come in daily for feeding in my yard and sometimes we get up to a hundred or more twice each day.

Wendy – The other day you mentioned you had a Billbergia you had called “Fruit Salad”, remember that’s the one you sent me a pup of quite while ago and if you remember, I lost it to cold damage during the very cold winter we had that year. You also sent me another which I’m pleased to report is now going well and has since pupped.

Three days ago when I was looking in the “Retirement Home”, this is an area where I put all the old mothers and the odd plant that has rotted (in the hope of getting pups from them); there with the morning sun shining on it was the “stump” of the original Bill. Fruit Salad that had rotted from the cold damage, and out of the stump was a nice healthy looking pup emerging.

This just goes to show how resilient bromeliads really are, and I’d say to you all, if you ever lose a plant to rot or any other cause, don’t be too hasty and throw it in the bin as they can quite often surprise you by bouncing back and producing a pup.

That’s it for another morning and a few more pic’s from our friends in NZ 1. Tillandsia Caerulea, 2. Tillandsia Streptophylla, 3. Tillandsia 'Mr. Toot', 4. Vriesea 'Snow White' and 5. One of the Lorikeet feeding tables in our back yard.

All the best, Nev.

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 28, 2012
12:48 PM

Post #9023471

morning everyone... it's the 29th...leap year! So enjoy that one extra day this month/year, ha ha.

Well we are getting overnight storms here but the days are pretty humid and blah! I am happy to report that I can start to see Summer being left behind us up here, yipeeeeeeeee. Sunrise is later, days not quite as hot and the UV rating is dropping, can't wait to get another Summer behind us. Bring back the best time of year in the north.

We got some bark yesterday to finish a garden we have over hauled, the one where the tern fern has gone into, I hope it survives. The garden looks much better now and once the shade cloth comes down I'll be able to get a pic to show you, as right now you wouldn't be able to work out what's what with cloth covering it all.

Well I will keep it short this morning,
Tash
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 28, 2012
2:04 PM

Post #9023584

Good morning all. Just a quick visit this morning.

Wendy, maybe the childrens' mother is just very stressed out from the move? No excuse to take it out on the kids though. Hope it all works out, and soon. The little ones are under stress too, that's what adults tend to forget. Hope Johnny is back to feeling great again too.

Nev, I wouldn't have thought that broms would do well in NZ, but they do breed some real beauties there, don't they. Love that little Snow White. And the lorries are gorgeous. I used to have a flock of around 200 here, but with the destruction of the trees, and people not having gardens in this area, its just a small flock of a few dozen now. I have my own little flock of 6 that come right in on my verandah daily for treats and to socialise with my two. I am lucky to have a pair that breed in a gum tree in the back yard. Don't get to see much as they are up too high, but as soon as they babes are old enough they parents bring them in for an introduction, before taking them off further afield.

Slowly getting things started here. Cash shortages are the biggest problem and I can only get small quantities of anything at a time. At the moment its pavers I'm slowly putting together. I need another 16 to finish the job, but it will have to span over a couple more pensions. Then I'll start getting pebbles. That should nearly finish one little job and I'll get some pics.

Karen

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

February 28, 2012
3:45 PM

Post #9023727

Hi all, another summer almost over but it’s still very hot and muggy here.

Still not much progress to report on the shadehouse, though we have had a couple of trees removed that had grown very large and were throwing too much shade. I will add some photos … before and after … (more like before and before that).

The structure was built to hide the cruddy looking concrete bore tank in the back yard and does the job very well. I used to grow lots of ferns and cordylines and lots of hanging baskets (but never broms) but then the drought hit. The bore ran dry after a couple of years and we were buying water for the next couple of years to keep the gardens alive, thinking it must rain soon. But it went on too long and got too expensive and things started dying and it all got too hard.

The weeds took over and the whiteants destroyed the hardwood timber sleepers around the gardens. The surrounding trees grew too big and too shady and the lichens grew on the shadecloth.

Moving forward to this year and twelve months or more of good rainfall ...

Some of the trees have now been removed and the old sleepers have been pulled out. Most of the shadecloth has been removed. It cleaned up well with a gurney and maybe we can use it elsewhere down the track a bit. We have new treated pine sleepers for the garden edges and I will keep the broms well away from this. We have new shadecloth but need to fix up some rust in the steel frame before fitting it.

Then it's new shelving and weedmat and lots and lots more broms !!!

The photos …

The first one is before the drought and before the whiteants moved in. Not a very good picture, obviously a cloudy day.

The second one is the lovely cardinal creeper growing on the sides. It gets rather thick in the summer but loses most of its’ leaves in the winter and allows more sunlight inside. I usually give it a bit of a prune as well while it’s dormant.

The third one is without shadecloth and sleepers but still some grass and weeds to remove.

The fourth taken from a different angle without the weeds.

The fifth photo was taken from the inside … lovely feature, the tank (overflowing these days and with a few leaks too).

These photos give a bit of an insight to the project at hand. I fear it could be a bit of a wait for photos showing any noticeable progress. Anyway, today is shopping day and it’s time to make a move.

Bye for now, Shirley

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

February 28, 2012
7:31 PM

Post #9024010

Ha two in one day from me... lol.

Wow Shirley... that is amazing!!!! It is going to look awesome, lucky you!! so much hanging space, what a great area. It use to look amazing and it soon will again, your broms will love it. I wish we could have something like that here, I can just imagine the things you can do with it, can't wait to see the progress photos as you get through it.

Karen I hear you on the dribs and drabs thing, we are not on a pension, but we too have to do bits and pieces as the funds allow it, there is always other things that require money first... mainly the kids and just the cost of living.

We remade a front garden and it sat with just weed mat and pot in it for ages, finally afforded 2 bags of bark to finish yesterday, couldn't really afford it but wanted it done. there is another garden sitting half done too, but it can wait. Everytime we think we are getting a wee bit ahead, ie another bill finally paid off... something happens... hubby's work dies off, or a big unxpected expense comes up. Such is life I guess... it sure doesn't sound like it gets easier ;)

Ok better go again, just thought I'd drop past again while the little guy is punching out zzz's, lol.

here is a photo of our little Neo Pink Tiger pups. Will be nice to see them grow up :)

Tash

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 28, 2012
8:14 PM

Post #9024055

Shirley, great shadehouse there. Could do with that in my backyard. I do love the Cardinal creeper. Had one once but the bulldozer took it out when they did the fencing. Didn't even leave the roots behind. So sad.

Tash, I do love to see the babies. I am starting to get a pup on a couple of my plants now. Rather excited.

I got an amazing package from Neville today. I had ordered the bill. Muriel Waterman and Nev sent a lovely pup, and a heap of surprises I didn't expect as well. Some outstanding ones are Vr. Evita, Bromelia Pinguin, some others along with tillandsias and usenoides, and a deuterocohnia brevifolia. I've seen the latter growing but only rarely. A most amazing plant when it clumps up, clumps some more, and keeps on clumping until it is quite big, just a mass of tiny, tiny little plants all clumped up. Nev, would love to see a pic of yours sometime. Many thanks for all of them. Doing the happy dance here. I am giving them a good water soak now, but will photograph them when they are all potted up and looking happy.

Karen


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

February 29, 2012
1:29 PM

Post #9024836

Hi everyone,

Well, it rained all day yesterday and last night and is still raining this morning. They have forecast it for another week and the long range weather man last night was a “barrel of laughs” as he said that in our area it will rain every day in March, so that’s something to really look forward to. I’ve been fortunate to date with no rot problems, but if this keeps up I have a bad feeling things will change.

The first half of the Billbergias are now re-potted which just leaves the smaller plants to do, and although there are probably still about sixty of them, they won’t be so much of a challenge as the ones I have just done as a lot of them will get away with just a “clean-up” and “top-up”.

Tash – Good to see the weather is improving for you and the brom’s up there in North Queensland’s tropical paradise and I can’t wait to see the pic’s of your finished garden. My garden make-over is still held up as I have to remove a quite large Bird’s Nest Fern and a Tree Fern but I’m waiting to find someone who can lift them out for me. I’m able to dig around them and loosen them up OK, but I’m very limited in what I’m allowed to lift, so at this stage it’s on hold, although all the rain we’ve had will certainly have softened up the soil and make things a bit easier.

Tash, can you create a new thread for March please as I think we need to do it and I don’t know how to go about it.

Karen – I ititially thought the same as you about brom’s in N.Z. but I’ve seen numerous pic’s of some beautiful collections and brom gardens on different international forums during the past few years. A lot of the plants they grow are right out in the open without any protection from the sun whatsoever, and apparently although the light is very bright and perfect for brom’s, the sun doesn’t have the damaging heat in it like it does here.

I can relate to what you say about "cash shortages"; last month we had to get four new tyres for the car, green slip for the ute, insurance for the house and on top of that a bloody great power bill, so it looks like “baked beans” for a bit longer yet, or maybe I’ll open a tin of “Pal” for some variety.

With the pouring rain yesterday all the lorikeets came onto the back deck beneath the Polycarbonate Roof. They were all wringing wet and my wife took pity on them and threw a piece of broken up grain bread on the small table and you should have heard the racket they kicked up all chattering and squawking at once.

Shirley – Wow! You have a great structure there from which you’ll be able to produce a fantastic shade house. I’m just looking at all the roof beams and imagining all of the brom’s you can hang from them, and as for the concrete tank, I’m sure you’ll be able to make good use of that surface as well. I’m sure that if your light levels are too low, you could paint the wall of the tank in a light, reflective colour, or on the other hand, if it’s too bright, you could pain it a dull olive green colour to lessen the brightness; either way there’s lots of possibilities and I look forward to seeing the progress pictures

I’ll finish off now with a mixed lot of pic's. Karen asked to see a pic of my deuterocohnia brevifolia; I only have a small plant but thought you may like to see the original plant that mine came from. It's nice large specimen growing in a container with a diameter of about two feet. It is owned and grown by Ross Little of Pine Grove Bromeliad Nursery in Wardell N.S.W. Pic. 2. is what happened when my wife threw a bit of grain bread on the table of our back deck yesterday. The next three pic's are the last of the N.Z. ones and No. 3. is a nice plant of Ques. Tim Plowman 4. Tillandsia 'White Star' and 5 . is Til. Latifolia 'Enano' Red Form.

In conclusion I'd like to remind you to drop in and have a look at the New Zealand Bromeliad Society's web site at http://www.bsnz.org

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

February 29, 2012
2:13 PM

Post #9024882

Nev, thankyou for putting up the pic of bromelia deuterocohnia brevifolia. I had seen it at a Brisbane tillandsia grower's place and was impressed but never thought to see if he'd spare a piece. Apparently it is a slow grower, so a pot that size must be worth a fortune!

Love the lories. I had to reduce the amount of food I put out as those birds make such a dreadful mess when they come in. I feed a local group of 6 now. Enough for me. Q.Tim Plowman is a lovely plant. One leaf on mine has turned yellow. I hope it will be OK. I only have a very small area where conditions are right, and need to make room for TP there. It means something else has to go. Decisions, decisions. And of course, tills are my passion. I love the wood that the T. White Star (with a yellow flower?) is on.

Off to Logan Hyperdome today, so better get moving. Have a great day, everyone.
Karen
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 29, 2012
6:58 PM

Post #9025270

I love the lorakeet photos and the compassion you have all shown for these beautiful birds. Thanks for sharing the photos of them.

I have a small Deuterochonia and am delighted to see it can become a massive and gorgeous plant. Can you tell me how large that one is?

Shirley ~ your shadehouse has good bones. Now that is the type of shadehouse I would love. I look forward to watching your efforts. Please continue to post photos as you work on it.

Thanks to all for the lovely photos... too many that I need to resist but beautiful just the same.
perke_patch

February 29, 2012
11:58 PM

Post #9025418

Well I'm back but eyes are stinging looking at the screen. I am so tired after 5 days with the 2 little ones - 4yo & 1yo. (I don't know how I did it with 3 under school age all those years ago.) Anyway I think the floor got swept and mopped at least 6-10 times a day last few days. I thought with all the running, bending, picking up, putting down, cleaning, washing etc etc, I would have lost some more weight but when I hopped on the scales at the chemist this morning it didn't show that (I was busting to go to the loo so I'll blame that) they were all busy so I didn't wait to do an official weigh in. It can wait till next week. I even put them in the pram yesterday and pushed them up the hill to the IGA for bread & milk then let gravity take over on the way back and I just ran downhill behind the pram. Maybe that made some muscle which we all know weighs more right????? LOL
Anyhow the kids were picked up this morning and mum was wearing her engagement ring again so the last couple nights alone must have helped. Yesterday, it was all over for them and she was talking about lawyers before he would see the girls again. She even rang me to say we had until 6pm with the kids then we wouldn't see them again unless Chris got lawyers to thrash out custody issues. Johnny was there helping them during the big slanging match and gave them a big tongue lashing and reminded them there was a childcare and school over the road and the little ones didn't need to hear them swearing at each other. He told them they both sounded like a pair of bad behaved children who both needed a good thrashing and they should grow up. He then came home and washed his hands of them. We enjoyed the rest of the day with the kids thinking it would be the last we saw of them for a while. Anyhow it all worked out and when they popped in last night (after the girls were asleep) they were friends again and mum had the ring on (she threw it at him in front of Johnny before he got involved and gave them the ear full so they must have thought about what he said and sorted themselves out on the way to Toowoomba and back. She takes the girls to Toowoomba this afternoon though so we'll see how the next few weeks go.

Shirley I like the look of your shadehouse. Pic 3 shows great potential and I was already imagining how it could look so I look forward to the pics of makeover.

Karen you lucky thing getting that deuterochonia. I have asked a few people to sell me one of those but haven't quite got there yet. One day. I think Catlans have one so I'll keep trying them. I love the dome shape they grow into eventually.

Nev I am so glad the bill fruit salad grew for you. I broke mine up again the other day. It is still too hard to let any more go though. My excuse is we haven't enough yet to do a big release. When we do you will have as many as we have and can be in on the big release too. I love the colours of the billbergias at the moment. If you end up with too many really nice coloured ones let me know and I will happily buy some pups from you Nev. When all my new release hybrids purchased recently multiply I will send you pups from the nicer ones.
One of my big tillandsias started rotting from being dripped on by the vr fenfez which had grown since they were put side by side. the ends of the leaves were constantly dripping into centre of the till. It was till imperialis x fabulous. It stood at least 18inches tall above the pot and had to be more than 12 inches in diameter. Anyhow when I discovered it I immediately brought it in under the patio and dried it out, supported it with large skewers and only misted the centre while putting just a cup of water weekly on the top of the pot. When I realised it was not going to keep going I screwdrivered the centre hoping for pups,. today the whole thing fell out of the pot leaving just the root ball and stump in the pot. After your story Nev I am going to ignore it in the pot and hope for a shoot. Otherwise I will have to buy another one from Alan Pythian. Fingers crossed for me that it shoots.

I haven't had a chance to do any potting last few days with 2 little ones. Emily and I potted up some bigger alcantareas into tubs earlier in the week. but since then. Today after kids left, we sat on the verandah with our feet on the rail and enjoyed the peace and quiet with a cuppa tea before I hung out the washing while Johnny mopped the floors for me. We then went to the shops for something for tea while they dried. Then Johnny took the dog for a swim. I am just too tired to do anything. I am loooking forward to a nice sleep in on Saturday. can't do it tomorrow as we have early hospital appointment. Johnny is feelng sore and aching after helping with the move, especially his shoulder oh and his ear. He got a reminder the other day for skinscan. When I rang up to make the appointment for him the lady said they had just had a cancellation so if he could be there within 30 minutes he could have that one. Anyhow best thing as he had a spot on one ear that he was worried about. Turned out to be bad and they cut chunk off top of his ear. He said it hurts more than his nose did when they did that. When he goes back next week they will take other side of his nose. He wished he used a big brimmed hat all those years ago so he wouldn't be going through this now. He even has me wearing a big straw hat in the yard now. And we got one for Emily when she is gardening with us too. We had to find something for Rylee to wear yesterday to go to the shop even though she was under the pram lid/cover. Have to teach her to be sun smart.

I'm off now for a quick nananap before tea. can't look at the screen any longer. May pop in again later to see if there is a new thread yet.
Wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 1, 2012
1:11 AM

Post #9025426

Hello all,

thanks everyone for your encouraging comments on the shadehouse. I am sure it will look good again but it may take some time. I will continue to attach photos as work progresses, however slowly!!!

Kristi, great that you keep up with what's happening on the forum from afar. Guess you would be just coming into Spring now. I know it’s my favourite time of the year here.

Tash and Nev, you both mention hanging broms from the roof beams… should these be planted into regular plastic hanging baskets or do they need something special. If anyone has any other suggestions on how the space could be best used, eg shelving, please let me know. I am very new to brom growing and any ideas would be most welcome … please!!!

Karen, sorry to hear you lost your Cardinal creeper. I think it is a lovely plant … clusters of big bright flowers and such a beautiful colour.

Wendy, hope all goes well with your son and his wife, especially for the children. I know how I feel about my grandkids and how worrying it is when things are not as they should be. Emily and Rylee are so young too, lets hope it all works out.

On another subject, Wendy, you mentioned you screwdrivered the centre of a rotting brom … can I ask why? Does this encourage the brom to ‘pup’.

Anyway, I will add a photo of my latest acquisition, an alcantarea imperialis ‘silver plum’. I saw it at our local nursery a couple of weeks ago and was very tempted to buy but resisted. Then I saw it on eBay yesterday with a starting price of $50.00 so, after a little research, went back to the nursery this morning and bought one (for less than half that price) and a nice sized plant too. I was feeling pretty pleased with my purchase but noticed (only after seeing the photos) that some of the leaves seem to have a bit of a ‘curl / wave’ in them, so I am hoping it is going to be OK.

Gotta go now, if I don't go feed the dog, he's going to chew my leg off.

Bye, Shirley


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perke_patch

March 1, 2012
3:31 AM

Post #9025444

Hi Shirley
I haven't done the screwdriver thing before but apparently if you destroy the growth centre with the screwdriver the plant stresses out and throws pups. Commercial growers apparently do that to quickly build up their stock to release a new plant. I thought I was going to lose the plant anyway so it was worth the risk to see if it would work. I think I may have left it too late though but after Nev's story I am going to wait to see if the stump throws a pup for me.

When talking to our son tonight the family is still with him where he is staying. They still haven't gone to Toowoomba. I think now that the stress of moving and money worries is over they are getting on better and postponing the separation. At least I hope all is well out there. Fingers crossed all goes well for them.

I am off to the shower and an early night with an early appointment tomorrow. Night all
Wendy

Pic is fia vareigata which now has 2 very nice variegated pups. better than my old one with only one non variegated pup.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 1, 2012
12:38 PM

Post #9026019

Hi everyone. We have had about 61cms of rain here. It was lovely soaking rain and my tanks are now half full. Lovely. Not much going on here I've been quite busy with the boys and appointments. They are time wasters aren't they? I don't mean that we shouldn't go just that the people are never running on time. Wendy I hope your son and DIL settle down for the girl's sake. Poor little mites. Have you got your results yet Nev? Hope you don't have any rot from all the rain. I have a little Deuterochnia brevifolia that I got from Sue only a couple of weeks ago. Shirley you have quite a bit of work ahead of you but oh such rewarding work. It will look lovely when you get there, but if it's anything like my SH it's never finished. Always something else to do. Must go the boys are getting up. Colleen

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 1, 2012
2:10 PM

Post #9026122

Hi everyone. Lovely plants again today. Always happy to see and sigh. And even drool some.

I have to make it quick as I have another hospital appointment this morning. This one generally runs close to appt. time so shouldn't be too bad or long a day.

Karen
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 1, 2012
8:19 PM

Post #9026573

Hi everyone,

Great weather down here, still raining and more forecast to come so again, no work in the garden today either...

Karen – I don’t want to appear pedantic, but you mentioned “bromelia deuterocohnia brevifolia”, it’s actually just deuterocohnia brevifolia, “bromelia” is another genus altogether (the other small plant I sent you with the A4 picture). As for the speed of growth on the deuterocohnia brevifolia, I started three years ago with just one little plant like I sent you and now there are eight; so you can count on them doubling each year if conditions are right and when you work it out, it shouldn’t take too long to make up into a reasonable size clump. By the way, Good luck with your appointment today.

I have a question for you, what is Logan Hyperdome? I’ve never heard of that before and this is my chance to learn my one “new thing for the day” which they say we should do to keep the old brain working.

Kristy – The large deuterocohnia brevifolia in the picture is about two feet across which is pretty big. As a little bit of homework, you can work out how long it’s taken to get to that size by counting the total individual plants and by working on the assumption that each plant has doubled in size each year, you should come up with an answer. You will of course have to just estimate how many plants are around the back that you can’t see.

Wendy – Wow you’ve really been busy at the keyboard haven’t you? When I’ve finished re-potting all of the Bill’s I’ll send you (and anyone else that wants one) a list of what I have spare.

As for the deuterocohnia brevifolia, don’t buy one just yet as I might be able to get you one and we’ll swap something for it.

I really like your Ae. Fia variegata. I’ve never seen that one before and on looking it up I find it is a hybrid with Ae Fulgens var. discolour as the seed parent and Ae. Chantinii as the pollen parent. This alone would probably rule it out for me as most plants with Chantinii in the breeding tend to suffer from the cold in our winter months. Have you heard how it tolerates the cold?

Shirley – Regarding hanging brom’s from the beams, they don’t need any special treatment; you can plant them in the normal plastic pots with the same potting mix like I do, or plant them in baskets or have them mounted on bits of wood or cork, it really doesn’t matter. We use a “universal” plastic hanger which suits both pots and baskets and I buy them through our local brom society for .20c each. They can be purchased from a company called Garden City Plastics along with heaps of other accessories, just Google “Garden City Plastics” to find out where they are in your area. You could obviously also buy them from nurseries but they would cost you a lot more I imagine.

The only thing to remember about hanging plants is, because they will get more light, they will colour up better; but they also need to be watched in the very hot weather as they can scorch easier being up higher. Also because they have free air circulating all around them they will also dry out quicker than pots on a lower bench would. Apart for that though, there is the main advantage of creating extra plant accommodation and as I’ve found out, I can accommodate more plants hanging than I can on benches as you can see in the picture I’ve posted. I also like your Alcantarea ‘Silver Plum’, it really is a beautiful plant and I think you got a pretty good buy. It always reminds me of a nice burgundy coloured plant that someone has dusted with “fine silver powder”.

Colleen – Glad to hear you’re getting a bit of rain, we’re getting more than our fair share up here with almost all of the major dams expected to open the flood gates during the next day or so; this hasn’t been done for some years now and they had to test the flood gates on one yesterday to make sure it was still working (which it was).

The test results still aren’t completed, as they stuffed up one of the tests yesterday and I have to go back next Monday to have it repeated, so I’m still playing the “waiting game”.

What’s the name of the plant in your second pic? It seems familiar to me but I can’t get a handle on it. I like what you said to Shirley about your shade house never seeming to be finished, how true those words are; I don’t say that any more, I just refer to it as a “work in process”!

I’ll finish now with a few more pic’s, 1. This is what happened the other day in the rain when my wife took pity on the lorikeets and threw a bit of grain bread on the table on the back porch. 2. Here’s one for Shirley to show how many plants it's possible to hang from one of the roof timbers. 3. A new Billbergia seedling, Bill. Fred Red x Bill. Hallelujah 4. Nidularium Nana, 5. Nidularium Ruby Lee

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 1, 2012
9:46 PM

Post #9026619

Hi Nev. Save me a pup of any of the Bilbergias please? The plant second in line in my pics above is Neo. "Lime and Lava" I like the Nid. nana. No rain again today but still over cast but not cold. Colleen
perke_patch

March 2, 2012
4:26 AM

Post #9026724

Hi. Nev the fia is a bit of a pig of a plant. the white bits tend to mark easily and seem to be covered in spots. The plant with the non variegated pup is a lovely colour but no green at all on it so I'm not sure whether to remove the pup or not. The tips of the lovely pink/purple pup are all brown and ugly like dead bits. It can't be from the cold as it is anything but cold here at the moment. now that summer is over we are getting hotter days than actually summer days were. Perhaps they mark from heat too. Just for your info Nev, our chantinii are growing in direct sun along the front fence facing north. They do fine beside the echidna in front of the carcharadon tiger.

Nev I love your billbergia seedling. If you have a spare of that one I would love one of those. hopefully it will take the full sun and bring out the colours like hallelujah with size of fred red. is that one of your crosses Nev?? I collected a nice tooth pic full of pollen last week from the hallelujahs and went downstairs with it to cross one of the other billbergias. You wouldn't believe it but all others were either too far gone or not ready yet to take the pollen so I just had to cross onto another hallelujah which was ready. Hopefully I will be able to collect the seed. The billbergia seedlings we have growing are going along in leaps and bounds. they grow fast don't they?? I'd love to do some hybrids one day but have to perfect the art of collecting the seeds from that genera. Mini neos are another genera I want to perfect the collecting of seeds as they grow fast too. I'm finding that some neos are so slow to grow while others are much much bigger than some which have been growing so much longer. I'll take some pics soon of some of the seedlings to show the different growing speeds.

Karen I noticed today that there are so many tillandsias coming into flower at the moment. Jen the cape town that I was going to give you has a flower coming on it. It's the only one that is a single plant so you will get a bonus of a flowering plant. others are multiple plants. I'll take pics of the flowering tillandsias for you Karen unless you come by to see them yourself. We thought we would have a sale next weekend so mark your calendar.

Time for bed now I think. still trying to catch up after the hectic week and I am really really looking forward to a sleep in tomorrow although after the early night last night I was ready to get up before the alarm this morning. we were in and out of the hospital by 10am so had all day. We called into the recycleland on the way home and bought over 4,000 8inch pots for $70 so that was a bargain. The ute was completely loaded, tarped and tied for the trip home.

Oh Nev the Logan Hyperdome is a very large shopping centre probably midway between my place and Karen's. We've gone there at times and I used to work near there in 1996 so went there a lot then but it is now much much bigger than in the 90s.

Anyway night all.
Wendy

splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 2, 2012
12:29 PM

Post #9027181

Hi everyone,

Well it looks like the weather might be on the improve, no rain last night and still not raining this morning so hopefully we might get a bit of sunshine for the two big days today, firstly grandson No.4’s second birthday, and secondly our local Illawarra Bromeliad Society’s 20th birthday. I need to be at both of them so which one do I go to? My grandson’s birthday of course; family must always come first!

Colleen – OK I’ve put you name down for 127 Billbergia pups. I like the Neo “Lime and Lava” is that the only plant you have or do you have a pup you would like to swap?

Wendy – No need to tease me with the ease with which you can grow Ae Chantinii up there, the only plant with Chantinii in its breeding that I did any good with down here was the Echidna, but that was probably a case of the “bullet proof” habit of the Ae. Recurvata used in the breeding shining through.

The Billbergia Fred Red x Hallelujah wasn’t one of my crosses, it was done by Tamera Ison and was one of a group of seedlings I bought from her. I’m pleased to see that now that she and Jack Koning have all the shade houses built on her property, she is going to start hybridizing Bill’s once more and hopefully some champions amongst them.

Wendy, do you know you can keep pollen in the fridge or freezer for use at a later date? Neo pollen from the fridge I have used five weeks after harvesting and in the freezer I have used it after twelve months, so that allows you a pretty fair scope for hybridizing Bill’s that don’t all flower at the same time. For both fridge and freezer storage, I just wrap it in a little bit of Alfoil and put it in an envelope inside a screw top jar. With the frozen pollen though, I have found that once it’s thawed out you need to use it straight away as you can’t re-freeze it or keep it in the fridge for later use.

I haven’t done any Bill hybrids, just planted a bit of Bill. Rosea seed, but they do grow much faster than Neoregelias and they’re also much easier to work with because the plant parts are more accessible. Like you I also found there is a lot of variation in the growing times of the Neo seed and usually the bigger the plant the quicker they seem to grow.

Yes I suspected that the Logan Hyperdome was a shopping centre, but then when Karen sounded so enthusiastic I thought maybe it was a brom nursery. By the way, that was a pretty good buy with the pots at the recyclers. I sometimes pick some up at our local recyclers which are mostly from landscapers who just plant the plants and toss the pots. I once got a stack of fifty six inch pots for fifty cents and I thought one cent per pot was a pretty good buy even if I did have to wash them before use.

That’s about it for another morning, now to find some pic’s to post.

No.1 Bill. Hallelujah on the left and Guz Sanguinea on the right, 2. Bill. De Nada, this is a very interesting plant which responds greatly to varying degrees of light and which I have sometimes seen spotted green through to spotted brownish red to almost white. 3. Bill. Fascinator which is another which responds greatly to diffferent light strengths and which I have also seen almost white and which looks magnificent with its contrasting scarlet flowers, 4. Bill Pink Lady which is only about eight inches high and needs good light to bring out the delicate pale pink colouring and finally 5. Bill. Golden Gem. This isn't a good pic of this plant as it does have a golden cast through it (hence the name) which neither I or my camera can seem to be able to capture.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

March 2, 2012
1:22 PM

Post #9027275

Is there a march thread yet?
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 2, 2012
3:15 PM

Post #9027410

Grey day here. Good morning all.

Nev, sorry about misnaming things. Just in too much of a hurry and didn't read my own notes properly. Nice bills there. Pink Lady looks interesting. Does she get any spots at all?

Wendy, my tills have gone quite flower wise but are making new plants, so that is good. I noticed one yesterday that I honestly can't tell if its a flower coming or gone. Time will tell. I'd like to get down to see you soon, but I have a vriesea that I want you or John to show me how to take apart. It is one that burned badly, but the pup looks OK, I think. So maybe another day, perhaps? Will phone you nearer the time and see what is suitable for you. Congrats on scoring those pots too.

Some pics for today.
First is one I just got from Neville, billbergia Red Raven. Nice looking plant.
Second is a bill. pyramidalis in flower after all the rain. More buds coming too.
Till. Cyanea. I hope I didn't put another one of these up earlier.
Also from Nev, neo. Fireball X Compacta showing the purple colour it is displaying.
And finally a NOID that I got from the markets when it was all green, now showing some splashes of colour.



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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 2, 2012
6:50 PM

Post #9027661

Afternoon everyone. We've had a few more spots of rain this morning. It's dull and overcast but not cold here. Nev. I have only just got Lime and Lava so no pups as yet but will keep a look out for you. There's one on E-bay at the moment for a starting price of $30 +12.00 p&h. All's looking good here, pups still coming. A new SH is needed. Be back later. I have a visitor. Colleen
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 2, 2012
9:45 PM

Post #9027831

Just dropping in to catch up on the activities here.

Nev, you have taxed my brain on the Deuterocohnia multiplication tables. lol

I have learned to turn my photos (finally) so as not to crick your neck and here is a photo of my little Deuterocohnia. But I'm not sure it is the same. This was marketed as a Deuterochonia lorentziana...

Notice its' peculiar little bloom.

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perke_patch

March 3, 2012
6:35 AM

Post #9028050

wow Nev 127 pups for someone. you sure do have a few billbergias don't you? I like those ones you posted pics of especially the pink lady, fascinator and golden gem. I also have de nada and love the patterning it gets. I must take pics of the billbergias I have so I can share with you all.

We worked like crazy this morning cleaning out under one of the benches so we could stack our new pots. When we sorted out all the broken pots we probably had 20-30 of them. By the time I had lugged them all the way to the back fence for Johnny to stack my arms sure knew I had some unused muscles there. We also have a couple of landscapers who drop pots off here by the truckload but the size pots at the dump were the size we use a lot of so we couldn't resist grabbing them. Most of the bigger ones were split though. It looks like they came from a nursery where the bigger tubs were staked into the ground to keep the plant upright. The bottoms were badly split from the stakes. We saved a few but majority were too badly split. Lucky we have others from the landscaper in that size.

This afternoon we had a good working bee with Johnny out the front using the back of the ute to take pups off, write tags and place them in a tray. I was out the back potting. We had some pups which were taken off in January to sell as bare rooted pups and I hadn't got around to potting yet. when I picked them out of the pots sitting in a tiny bit of water they had roots everywhere. Some had even tangled roots around other pups. They didn't mind at all sitting there waiting to be potted. As long as they had that supply of water for the roots to go looking for they were happy. Anyhow we potted quite a few trays of plants and they even got watered by the rain falling while we worked. We took our first pup off neo fairy floss so we were really excited about that, and 2 off gunpowder (see pic). Also 2 more of megan another of our favourites and neo first prize had 5 lovely big pups. It's nice to see some of our nicest broms giving us some pups.

NIght all
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 3, 2012
12:46 PM

Post #9028438

Good morning everyone,

Well I survived my two year old grandson’s birthday yesterday, even after having to eat a bit of "Thomas the Tank Engine" birthday cake! I don’t know whether it’s me or not, but there’s just something about blue icing that doesn’t quite cut it with me. Unfortunately the rain continued to drizzle all day and the jumping castle had to be cancelled, but the kids didn’t seem to mind, they just wrecked the house instead.

The big hit of the party was a little scooter his uncle bought him. Would you believe it played music and blew bubbles out of its bum! Well it was a riot watching a group of two and three years olds trying to catch all these bubbles, chasing them and even all together jumping up and down on them.

Breeindy – No there’s no March thread yet. I got a message on face book from Tash yesterday and I’ll pass it on to you all as this will explain why Tash hasn’t started a new thread:

“hey Nev, just a real quickie, we have no phone line at home, big storms took it out on Wednesday and Telstra are so dam useless they are saying maybe by Monday they might look at it! Not happy, had to buy an internet stick to get bills paid and some centre link stuff done, but it's very tempremental and only allows me on at certain times, bad reception here and I can't seem to get onto Dave's Garden at all. So once I get my normal internet back, I'll get on there and catch up and get a new thread started if no one else has.”

So does anyone here know how to start a new thread for March? What about you Chrissy, I seem to remember you did it a while back, or Sue if she’s still around, although I know she’s going on a long holiday around Australia she may still be looking in. Is anyone interested?

Karen – Some vrieseas can be a bit tricky to divide or to remove pups from and rather than try and explain it here, I think it needs to be demonstrated as well, so you’re wise to take it to Wendy and Johnny as you suggest.

That’s a great overhead shot of Bill Pyramidalis; you’ve really captured all of its beauty in great detail. Taking pic’s of brom’s and capturing the best in them is a special skill, and one which unfortunately I don’t have. I find it’s very difficult to just capture the exact colour of a plant as I see it and although it is similar, it’s never as good as the real thing or the pic's that others take; perhaps I’ll have to get some lessons from you.

Colleen – Thanks for getting back to me about the Neo ‘Lime and Lava’. Does anyone else here have it, or more specifically a pup they want to swap for something?

I hope your visitor brought you a present like my visitor did yesterday. One of my brom growing friends dropped in on his way up from the Far South Coast to our 20th Anniversary Illawarra Bromeliad Society Meeting, and brought me a couple of nice pups of Neo’s I don’t have. That’s what I like about brom people, they like to share things, and it often pays dividends for them as well, because if they lose their plant they know where they can always get a replacement. I guess it called “not putting all of your eggs in one basket” which is also good insurance.

Kristi – I’ve just been looking on the FCBS Photo Index and the pic’s there of Deuterochonia lorentziana looks very much like yours and I think your plant was correctly identified. I also notice yours is growing in a very rough and open mix which is exactly what I was told to grow mine in when I first got it, and even though it proved difficult to get it to sit comfortably in the mix, it quickly put down roots to hold itself firmly.

Wendy – I have quite a lot of Bill pups, unfortunately some of the plants don’t pup as well as others, and Bill. Golden Gem (which is one of my favourites) unfortunately is in this category. I do have spares of Fascinator and Pink Lady though so a swap for them shouldn’t be a problem.

It’s good to see all of your Neo’s pupping well, and it’s especially good to see the favourites and more expensive ones doing the same. Mine are all starting to push up more pups as well, and just when I thought I’d caught up with all the Neo re-potting too.

Alcantareas – Another of my favourite brom’s which are now becoming more popular as more and more varieties become available. Unfortunately I don’t have enough growing area to have more than one or two, but anyone with acreage would be well advised to try a few as although they are very large plants, they are great plants which really make a “statement”.

Yesterday while looking at some old forum threads I came across the following address in the “original” Garden Forums (bromeliad section) and it’s certainly worth a look as there are lots of different Alcantareas that aren’t commonly available yet:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/bromeliad/msg0907541722202.html?22

That’s about it for another day and I’ll finish with a few pic’s once again. 1. is Tillandsia Flabellata, 2. Neo. Roy's Rogue, 3. Neo. Rose Marie (mini), 4. Neo. Meyendorfii variegata II, and 5. Neo. Ice White River

All the best, Nev.


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perke_patch

March 4, 2012
5:29 AM

Post #9029149

Hi all
Nev so glad you enjoyed the birthday party. Little ones bring so much joy don't they? My little ones are now up in Toowoomba but they had 2 or 3 days as a happy family before leaving yesterday. Wonder when I'll see them again. It's their dad's birthday on Wednesday so I wonder if we'll see them that day. Chris spent the last 2 days dead leafing my brothers broms for him so he won't have to work so hard when he gets home.

We've had a clean up and depupping session last couple days. this morning we dead leafed and I like to pull the spend flower centre out of the neos to make them last longer. I pulled the centre out of a mini neo blushing tiger and before dropping it in the bucket noticed that bulging seed pods still there. I squeezed one and discovered seed so I squeezed all the pods, then washed and dried the seed. I sowed a tray and placed rest in an envelope in the fridge for later. That was easy so I will be trying it with all the mini neos now. I'm told they grow to maturity quickly compared to other genera so I look forward to some nice seedlings soon.

Nev if there is anything in our collection you want let me know asap so I can give it to Jen to take down to you. I would love to swap for some of those billbergias. If you have any other stunners that I would just have to have especially ones that love the pure sunlight like hallelujah does I would love to swap you for some of those too.,

I posted 3 pics earlier and lost the post so this time I will stick to just one. It will be a mini neo shamrock which is one of my favourites.

Night
Wendy

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perke_patch

March 4, 2012
5:42 AM

Post #9029165

I have started a new thread for March. It is at http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1245043/

Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 4, 2012
12:00 PM

Post #9029637

Good morning everyone,

When I saw the sun shining yesterday morning and felt a slight North Easterly breeze blowing, I decided to try and cut the back grass. My wife had done a load of washing earlier and hung it on the line hoping for a fine day, but I had to wait until the grass had dried out a bit. About mid morning the clouds were coming over again and I decided to cut the grass there and then. I’d just got everything ready when the young bloke who used to cut our grass dropped in just in time to save my old back by offering to cut the grass for us. No sooner had he started and fine rain started to fall. Fortunately this was short lived and as well as cutting the back grass, he did the front also and now everything’s starting to look reasonably tidy again. He had just put the mower away and down came the rain again and it’s been raining all night, but again not raining this morning.

Wendy – Dead leafing seems a never ending job with brom’s but it’s sure a good way to get to know your plants better and often pick up little problems before they become major issues. I’ve recently finished doing all the Neo’s and now the Vrieseas need to be done, at least they are smooth leaved and don’t start my arms bleeding like I've been attacked by some vicious animal.

Neo Blushing Tiger is a well known “selfer” and I think everyone who has it has at some time tried a bit of seed, and however even though some of the offspring are sometimes barred, I haven’t seen anything as good as the parent show up locally yet, but then you’ll never, never, know if you don’t give it a go!

I have a little Neo ampullacea ‘Black Beauty’ which “selfs” regularly also, and as you say they are very quick to germinate and I’ve found them to grow much quicker than the standard Neo’s also.

No doubt there are dozens of plants in your collection that I would like but unfortunately I always try and commit the names to memory and don’t go to write them down until I’ve forgotten and it’s too late. I’ll send you a wish list of plants I’m chasing as I just usually stick them all on a “wish list” meaning to write the name of the owner beside them but never seem to get around to doing it, and there may be some on the list that you have to swap.

I really do like your little mini Neo ‘Shamrock’ you’ve posted this morning, so when you get a spare pup put my name on it please. The other recent “want” that springs to mind, is Neo ‘Lime and Lava’ that Colleen posted a pic of a few days back.

As for the Bill’s, I haven’t gone through them all yet to sort out what’s available to swap and sell and what I want to keep, but one that does spring to mind is one of the older ones called Billbergia ‘Kip’, it is a plant that really makes a “statement” in the garden; and I’ve seen it grow to almost a metre tall. It’s a light brown colour with spotting and when given good light, it seems to get a beautiful pink cast through it. Grown in the shade it’s a most uninteresting dull green. I’ll see if I can find a pic and email it to you.

I also know I have spares of two beautiful rather large growing species; Bill. macrocalyx and Bill. rosea (see the FCBS Photo Index for a good selection of pic’s) These are what is commonly referred to as the “watch spring” types because of their tightly curled petals.

Thanks for starting the new thread and I’ll post this here in answer to your questions and I’ll also put it on the new thread as well if no one has posted anything there yet.

Now to finish with a few pic’s of my Neoregelias.

No.1. Neo. ‘Blast’, No. 2. Neo. Concentrica x (Charm x Cracker Jack) seedling, No. 3. Neo. ‘Heck’, No. 4. Neo. ‘Marble Snow’, No. 5. Neo. Marmorata (hybrid)

All the best, Nev.

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lozzmiller
Melbourne
Australia

March 7, 2013
4:23 PM

Post #9442204

Hi,
I have 1 Bromeliad. last night I woke up to a lot of noise outside and when I went outside something had pulled it out of the pot roots and all. We have a lot of possums, so I assume it was one of them. I was wondering why a possum (or an other animal?) would do this? and how to stop it happening again?
I have searched this forum and some others and I am finding mixed things - that possums do like to eat them and that they don't. The plant wasn't eaten, it was just out of the pot.
I have had it a couple of months, and the possums haven't seemed interested in it until last night.
I thought that maybe, since it has been so hot, they were trying to get at the water in the funnel part?
Thanks,
Loren

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

March 7, 2013
6:26 PM

Post #9442340

Do you get bandicoots down there?
lozzmiller
Melbourne
Australia

March 7, 2013
8:11 PM

Post #9442427

I'm not sure about Bandicoots. I'm in hawthorn, 6 km from Melbourne CBD, so I'm guessing not...

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

March 8, 2013
1:54 PM

Post #9443043

I know they dig up plants here without really harming the plant, there trying to find grubs and bugs in the soil/under the ground.

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