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Gardening by the Moon: Moon Gardening Experiment 2012

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evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 3, 2012
6:13 PM

Post #8993893

All are invited to participate and share your experiences with the various calendars that Cristina has taken the time to share with us.

Many (calendars) seem to be in conflict with each other, so do what you can to document the day that you sow the seeds, the conditions, and when the sprouts appear, and if they are suitable for growing on. Since we have a variety of calendars from which to chose this year, we can sow something on almost every day. It will be interesting if any are trying out the different calendars, and to see which one works the best for you.

It does not matter which one you follow or which one you prefer. We are all interested to see what kinds of results we can gather. I, myself, will try a variety and then see if there are different results.

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Feb 2nd-3rd FA - Any Seed Planted Now Will Tend To Rot.
2 February 2012

Root Planet: Taurus MOON: First quarter, Waxing gibbous
Synodic:
Sow vegetables that produce internal seed bearing fruits. Tomatoes, beans, peas, peppers, chillis, pumpkins.

Biodynamic:
Moon in Taurus: Earth sign. Sow Root plants like Garlic, Onions, Shallots, Spring Onions, do not sow Flower plants like Broccoli...

Sidereal:
Moon in Taurus: Sow Root vegetable crops.

So taking all of this into account as well as what I had to sow and the time available, I sowed the following seeds yesterday, indoors, under lights, February 2nd:

TPS (true potato seeds) 2009 Blue (from a trade)
TPS 2010 Blue (from a trade)
TPS Park Seed Zolushka pelleted seed 2010

Beet Bull's Blood Pinetree Seed 2010
Beet Chiogga Pinetree Seed 2010
Beet Cylindra Pinetree Seed 2003
Beet Ruby Queen Pinetree Seed 2002

Florence Fennel Pinetree Seeds 2010



This message was edited Feb 15, 2012 3:19 PM
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 4, 2012
4:55 PM

Post #8994861

This is very good Evelyn, I also put some potatoes, some onion and beetroot on the ground, we are in Summer here down south and I have continue sowing few plants of different vegetables as part of continuous planting during growing season.

By the way on the 8th Feb. you will have the right day for sowing celery seed: it will be a Leaf day with a Full Moon under cancer, just what celery needs!

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 4, 2012
5:01 PM

Post #8994869

Evelyn,I am most interested in following your experiments!

I have sprouted Babington Leeks in the crisper drawer that need planting, but the potting soil I just bought is still in the truck and now very cold. I need to bring it inside to warm, and will document when I plant...

I want to order the Biodynamic Planting Calendar for 2012, but I'm broke.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 4, 2012
5:40 PM

Post #8994901

Darius ~ Cristina will continue to post all of the calendars, so go ahead and let us know what you sow and plant. I went out today so no planting sowing or even planning. I will check my seeds and the calendars and see what will be next to plant.

I am also trying to get the seeds that need a head start planted early this year, but have already missed the boat on some of them.

Thanks again, Cristina, for taking the time to post all of the calendars.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 5, 2012
8:14 PM

Post #8996149

4 - 5 February 2012

FA: Flower Planet: Gemini MOON: Waxing gibbous

Synodic:
This is a good time to sow vegetables that produce internal seed bearing fruits. Tomatoes, beans, peas, peppers, chillis, pumpkins.

Biodynamic:
Moon in Gemini: Air sign. Sow Flowering plants like Broccoli. Do not sow Rooting plants like Garlic, Onions, Shallots ...

Sidereal:
Moon in Gemini: Barren and dry, and yet good for promoting flower growth.

Sometimes I cannot fathom the meanings here. Still today, Feb 5th, I sowed the following seeds (indoors, under lights):


Artichoke Violetto Pinetree Seeds 2010
Broccoli Calabrese Pinetree Seeds 2010
Broccoli De Cicco Ferry Morse 2010
Broccoli De Cicco Ferry Morse 2007
Broccoli Waltham 29 Excel Seed 2004

Lisianthus Cinderella Blue Park Seed 2010
Pentas Graffiti Violet Pinetree Seeds 2010
Pentas Graffiti White Pinetree Seeds 2010
Pentas Butterfly Sparkler Mix Burpee 2010




evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 6, 2012
9:02 PM

Post #8997474

6 February 2012

FA:
6th-10th Clear Ground, Turn Sod. Kill Plant Pests.

Flower Planet: Gemini MOON: FULL

Synodic:
Now is a good time to sow root vegetables, berries, bulbs, onions, biennials, and perennials.

Biodynamic:
Moon in Gemini: Air sign. Sow Flowering plants like Broccoli. Do not sow Rooting plants like Garlic, Onions, Shallots. Fruits Harvested now should be eaten straight away.

Sidereal:
Moon in Cancer: This is a good time for germination

I have a question, is the full moon in Gemini or in Cancer? And more conflicting advice. However I have started the following seeds, inside, under lights:


Abutilon Bella Mixed
Abutilon Summer Sherbet
Geranium (Pelargonium) Border Mixed
Gerbera California Mixed

Last year I waited too late to plant these, so hopefully this Bio Dynamic chart will be of advantage. This is the time of year to sow all the seeds that take a long time from sowing to bloom, whether or not they germinate easily. As soon as the moon is in Cancer I will sow the celery, and plant out the starts that I picked up on Sunday at a nursery in the next county. (Amador Flower Farm)



darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 7, 2012
3:54 AM

Post #8997573

Evelyn, good trials! Your data sounds like this site... too bad they don't specify just what time the moon moves into a new sign. I'm GMT +5
http://www.the-gardeners-calendar.co.uk/Moon_Planting.asp

Quick view/Overview
http://www.the-gardeners-calendar.co.uk/

I plan to start my Babington Leeks on Saturday, and some sage today. I ordered lots of seeds in November, need to check what else can be planted early. I'm hoping I ordered artichokes, memory is lousy anymore!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 8, 2012
6:35 PM

Post #8999773

Thanks, Darius!

The more I look at these charts and their conflicts, the more confused I get. However, I will carry on...and on...! LOL!!!

8 February 2012

FA: Leaf Planet: Gemini MOON: FULL

Synodic: Do sow root vegetables, biennials, and perennials.

Biodynamic: Moon in Cancer: Water sign. Do sow Leaf plants like Cabbages. Do not sow Fruiting plants like Broad Beans,Cucumbers. Fruits Harvested today will not keep long.

Sidereal: Moon in Cancer: good seed germination.

Still I do not know if the moon is in Cancer, which is fruitful, and Gemini which is not.

So here goes:

Celery Utah - seeds sown outside in SFG and cell pack and indoors in cell pack.
Lake Valley Seeds 2012
Celery Giant Pascal 1-6 pack, (though more than 6 plants)
Lettuce Bibb cell pack indoors
Ferry-Morse 2008
Chard Charlotte cell pack indoors
Pinetree Seeds 2010
Chard Bright Lights cell pack indoors
T&M 2008

Viola odorata Queen Charlottte
Chiltern 2008
Pansy Rococo
Pinetree Seeds 2010 cell pack indoors
Pansy Dream Formula Mix
Pinetree Seeds 2010
One cell pack indoors, one outdoors






This message was edited Feb 8, 2012 7:55 PM
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 8, 2012
6:46 PM

Post #8999791

Beet 'Bull's Blood' Pinetree Seed 2010
Beet 'Chiogga' Pinetree Seed 2010
Beet 'Cylindra' Pinetree Seed 2003
Beet 'Ruby Queen' Pinetree Seed 2002

Florence Fennel Pinetree Seeds 2010

... all sown on Feb 3rd are already sprouting.

'Ruby Queen' and 'Chiogga look vigorous. (No presoaking or any other special treatment.)

This message was edited Feb 15, 2012 3:35 PM
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 9, 2012
4:39 PM

Post #9000931

Evelyn the different cycles are as they are :

The Synodic cycle takes 29.6 days to complete.(this is an important factor in the differences of the cycles). It then groups plants into categories, Root Crops, Foliage, Crops with seeds on the outside, and crops with seeds on the inside and assigns plants to the phases of the moon which best suits their growing characteristics.

The Biodynamic: this the one I do follow, it is the method developed by Rudolf Steiner in 1924, and the Zodiac signs used where the actual positioning of the signs in the sky, when the moon passed through them. In addition to the position of the moon, Venus ans Saturn also played a large part in the Biodynamic farming calendar

The Sydereal: the moons orbit around the earth is used to find the best times to sow and harvest. The orbit is divided up into 12 equal 30 degree sections to represent the position of the moon in the sky, but it may or may NOT be the same as the current moon position. The sidereal cycle takes 27.3 days to complete...


I hope it will help you a bit. That is why I suggested that you should find out which one is best for you, following your own experience and do not try to compere one to the other, that will only increase your confusion...

To me, once more, the Biodynamic is the best even when Biodynamic agriculture has been characterized as pseudoscience, but it does work and millions follows it around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodynamic_agriculture
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 9, 2012
7:39 PM

Post #9001180

Cristina ~ So all this time you have been posting the FA calendar, you have been following the Biodynamic calendar?
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 10, 2012
7:10 AM

Post #9001599

Yes, in a way I do.

I have kept on getting the FA because it come with many other articles that are instructive, also sort of help me to learn how to find a happy medium ... a bit difficult to explain, I am a bit of a survivor, I do believe we'll have sometime some kind of collapse and we will have to do everything without all the fancy electronic we do enjoy now, nothing to do with Dec/ 2012 though.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 10, 2012
7:33 AM

Post #9001630

Christina, I concur!
CricketsGarden
Nauvoo, AL
(Zone 7a)

February 10, 2012
7:35 AM

Post #9001632

I have a Farmers and Gardeners Calendar with the astrological signs, zodiac signs, and moon phases. Ya'll are talking about stuff that is completely out of my league. Over my head. I think I will stick with my simple Almanac Calendar that tells me what I should sow and transplant and when.
Half of the instructions on my Calendar does not match half the stuff written in this topic. But then again , I could be too ignorant to understand.

For Example.
My calendar says that Feb 8 was in Leo and the least productive sign and that day was best for destruction of weeds and harmfull growths.
My calendar says that Feb 13 is in the Scorpio and still in the full moon and most productive sign for all plantings of veggies that produce above ground.




This message was edited Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 10, 2012
7:42 AM

Post #9001643

I am very confused with all y'all talking too.
I am following Maria Thun calendar ONLY.
I wake up in the morning, look at the color selection for today and see what I shall do in the garden.
Thun has alreasy done all the studies for me ...

So far it has been proven MAGICAL ...

Good luck to y'all

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evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 10, 2012
11:17 AM

Post #9001874

Yes, it can be confusing. Still, maybe the differences of what sign the moon is in may have to do with location and they are writing those calendars from different locations. As to the other influences, even though they are subtle, they might have a good influence.

As many have said before, as well as Cristina...make an experiment, or at least document what you planted and then when. Then look at your seedlings and compare them to the various calendars. Then we will have a clearer idea of which one works best for us.

That is the reason for this thread. If we participate together maybe we can come to some insights, and then discuss them. As far as I am concerned, I need all the help I can get. I do appreciate everyone here, taking the extra time to share your findings and opinions. I am looking for facts and results however, and maybe you are too.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 10, 2012
12:43 PM

Post #9001940

drthor, I'd love to have the Maria Thun calendar!

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 10, 2012
3:16 PM

Post #9002158

you can buy it from Amazon: The North American Biodynamic Sowing and Planting Calendar 2012

http://www.amazon.com/American-Biodynamic-Sowing-Planting-Calendar/dp/0863158234/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328915714&sr=8-2

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 10, 2012
3:41 PM

Post #9002193

Yeah, I know... just need the $$... but Thanks!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 10, 2012
8:36 PM

Post #9002431

Feb 2nd-3rd FA - Any Seed Planted Now Will Tend To Rot.
2 February 2012

HA! Well those beets did not rot at all, did they? And that was the FA almanac. I am starting to lean towards the biodynamic calendar. Actually, Cristina, I probably read about biodynamics before you were born...although I really do not know how young you may be. Those beets are still going strong. I took their covers off and off the heat as well. I have never started beets indoors before, only in the ground. I was surprised at their speed in germination, especially the older ones.

drthor ~ I MAY believe in magic after all. ^_^

evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 10, 2012
9:29 PM

Post #9002458

Darius ~ I *think* that drthor will share with us...

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 11, 2012
9:12 AM

Post #9002846

or maybe it is just luck !!
anything I plant following the calendar do germinate and I have huge harvests ...
maybe it is magic and luck combination ... I dunno ...
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 11, 2012
10:03 AM

Post #9002914

Evelyn have experienced the same results even with difficult to germinate seeds, all germinated and have given me excellent crops.

I have used, in Australia the different formulas and that is MAGIC. Over here in Chile is difficult to find some of the stuff so I have only make sure that I do maintain on the ground 3 different compost heaps, the soil is rich and I do not have many pest at all.

Evelyn the biodynamic movement did start in 1924 when R. Steiner gave a series of lectures that started the organic cultivation and, by the way, I am as young as my 65 Primaveras in this world, so I do not think that you are as young as me!

Cristina
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 11, 2012
1:31 PM

Post #9003110

Ha! I am 70...but that's OK. As Thomas Jefferson once remarked, "I am an old man, but a young gardener."

I wish I had the resources and the energy to do the complete biodynamic way. If only we could purchase some of the BD formulas. Still, I also have my compost piles and try what I can and also am getting better at what I grow. It has only been since I have retired that I could even pay so much attention to the gardening, as when working full time it was always water before and/or after work and pull what weeds that I could. Then I had several surgeries that slowed me down quite a bit, but I am slowly recuperating from them.

This is the third year I have been growing plants from seed, as previously I just purchased starts from the nursery. We finally got a fence for our small garden area. In it are 8 Square Foot Gardens, and an assortment of other beds around the perimeter, including 3 apple trees, that were just planted a couple of years ago.

I do start some from seed outside (wintersown) as well as starting some indoors. I do have veggies but love flowers as well.

White Flower Border
Dark Side Garden
"Cottage Garden" - Mixed bed...annuals, perennials as well as a few shrubs.
The Asparagus and Artichokes have been recently planted. Last year the asparagus and this year the artichokes.

My garden plan for this year:

Edibles:
Various tomatoes...will share list later
Corn from a neighbor who saved his seeds (I built a new raised bed for this)
Pole Beans
Peas
Carrots
Beets
Radishes
Chard
Potatoes (some from seed - TPS)
Broccoli
Cabbage
Caulifower
Onions
Sunflowers
Oregano (huge plant!)
Sage
Basil
Cilantro
Strawberries
Blueberries
Apples

I will get the list of flowering plants later as I will be adding some as well as what is aready growing there.

What is everyone growing here? I know drthor has a HUGE operation! And beautiful from what I have seen on other threads.

I am looking forward to finding some Roots Organic.



darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 11, 2012
2:07 PM

Post #9003143

Evelyn, the place I buy amendments carries a good sounding BD compost starter, and a field spray. The starter is $10 for an ounce, and it treats one ton of compost. (and they do ship)
http://www.7springsfarm.com/catalog.html#BD

I'm moving strongly into food forest gardening (perennial polyculture), in rather lose "guilds". I started my apple guild last summer with strawberries for ground cover around the base of my small 3 year old apple tree. Further out from the berries were flowering perennial herbs to attract pollinators, clumps of comfrey to chop and drop 4-5 times over the growing season (for mulch and nitrogen), and interspersed were pole beans and tomatoes. There are an amazing number of perennial vegetables out there, and if the guild is done right, every plant in it adds something the others need, including fertilizer. Once established, they rarely need watering except in drought conditions...
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 11, 2012
3:01 PM

Post #9003211

If I gardened in my "forest", the deer would be feasting daily until there was nothing left. Until we had a decent fence, it was "hit and miss" - they hit and I missed! LOL!! (I wish they would change the laws about hunting for deer.) We do have someone on our property each year and they share their bounty with us in exchange for using the property. There are still large herds of deer seemingly increasing every year.

I did get a nice size comfrey root from a DG member. And I just threw down some seeds for borage. They should both be excellent for composting purposes.

This message was edited Feb 11, 2012 4:10 PM

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 11, 2012
3:32 PM

Post #9003253

LOL, a food forest is not a real forest... and I hear you about the deer. Two days ago I watched a doe munching away on some ground cover just 25' outside my office window... not in the garden, though. First deer I've actually seen in the yard.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 11, 2012
4:11 PM

Post #9003296

A "good forest" is not a REAL forest??? OK, what is it?

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 11, 2012
4:31 PM

Post #9003314

A food forest does use some layering like found in a real forest, but most often just has a mid-size central fruit or nut tree, not a towering giant above it, and fruiting shrubs in and around it. Then perennials are planted around it, chosen for what they bring to the party. Note my description above, posted at 5:07...
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 11, 2012
7:53 PM

Post #9003546

OK, I get it now...sorry, sometimes I am a bit dense.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 13, 2012
11:40 AM

Post #9005283

[quote="evelyn_inthegarden"]

I wish I had the resources and the energy to do the complete biodynamic way. If only we could purchase some of the BD formulas. Still, I also have my compost piles and try what I can and also am getting better at what I grow.

[/quote]

Darius ~ Thanks so much for the link. I tried looking before and could not find any BD preps. I cannot even imagine making them myself. I still do make some things here, in my own way, with what resouces that I do have.

I do use the rock powders, (greensand, azomite and bio-char) as well as keeping a rather large compost pile. My neighbor is taking back the ComposTumbler that I borrowed. It really did not produce finished compost, but it was almost finished and easy to turn.

Now I will have to turn my piles myself, but that's OK. One is a long-standing pile with hjarder-to-break-down items such as pine needles and oak leaves. I try to take out the pine needles as much as I can and put them on the blueberries instead. They have a nice pine needle and sawdust mulch and the strawberries in there are going wild.
ErzsebetF
Swansea, SC
(Zone 8b)

February 13, 2012
1:22 PM

Post #9005394

Hi Everyone!
I am in Zone 8a in South Carolina, and I'd also like to participate in your planting by the Synodic/biodynamic calender system. I have been gardening in my back yard for a few years now, and have decided to grow only Heirloom and Organic vegetables which I will either begin to germinate myself or sow right in the ground. We have had a nasty cold snap with the wee hours of morning plunging from 29 to 35 degrees so I don't want to put anything in the ground just yet...despite the fact that I do have some vegetables/ and lettuces(bolted microgreens from the mild Dec/Jan/ weather) overwintering. These past two days though, a few things are covered in plastic.
Where can I read up on the calender system you are using; other than the Farmer's Almanac? This is one of my "gardening" bibles, by the way. I am guessing that you are using other reference calenders? Where can I see these?
I have enjoyed reading through the Jan. Feb. conversations; and I agree, the information can be tricky!
Thanks! Elizabeth

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 13, 2012
2:12 PM

Post #9005458

ErzsebetF, glad you will join us... I have a somewhat distant relative in Swansea! Try this link, for daily/weekly updates, although it's not adjusted for EST. (just add 5 hours for your location in SC)
http://www.the-gardeners-calendar.co.uk/Moon_Planting.asp
Weekly synopsis on this page, plus other interesting info
http://www.the-gardeners-calendar.co.uk/

I bit the bullet and ordered the 2012 Maria Thun biodynamic planting guide... through Amazon, but not from Amazon itself, just a vendor who's NEW price plus s/h was the same as Amazon's price without s/h. I should have it next week.

I got my Babington Leeks planted in trays yesterday; earlier in the week I did sage, and now I have 2 sprouts already of the difficult white (ceremonial) sage. The reg. sage is still sleeping! Today I planted fennel. the bulbing kind. I really need to look through my seeds to see what I can start early, but any started seeds are also in competition with my cat for the only sunny windowsill.



cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 13, 2012
4:22 PM

Post #9005606

Elizabeth, Hi, good to see you around.
You will be very glad when you see the result you will get by using Biodynamic Moon Gardening.

If you want you can also check this thread:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1240342/

My aim is that everyone of us learn the biodynamic moon gardening without the need of depending on a book that you need to buy year after years and in this way, to empower us to continue gardening trusting in our own knowledge, just in case of...

Also, more than ever we need to grow our garden with our own seed open pollinated organic seed, grown by you.

In the biodynamic method, this is very important if you are going to try to eat the vegetable / herbs / fruit that you produce.

It is all to do with frequencies and vibration ...

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 13, 2012
4:43 PM

Post #9005627

Well Christina... I'd have to say only partly frequencies and vibration. Soil health plays a BIG part!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 13, 2012
7:38 PM

Post #9005794

The (TPS) Park Seed Zolushka Potato pelleted seed 2010...sown Feb 3rd...has germinated today...maybe yesterday, as I was gone all day yesterday.

It is so exciting to me to see potatoes growing from seeds. I took off the plastic cover and removed from the heat. They will be under lights for quite a while as they are slow growers.




This message was edited Feb 17, 2012 2:29 PM
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 14, 2012
4:12 PM

Post #9006882

darius of course, the soil is the base, eh?

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 15, 2012
4:44 AM

Post #9007299

Absolutely!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2012
3:43 PM

Post #9008066

[quote="darius"]Evelyn, the place I buy amendments carries a good sounding BD compost starter, and a field spray. The starter is $10 for an ounce, and it treats one ton of compost. (and they do ship)
http://www.7springsfarm.com/catalog.html#BD

[/quote]

Oh, I am surely going to order some. I have not yet, but I will. If it treats a whole ton of compost, would you like me to share and send you half?

Evelyn

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 15, 2012
3:46 PM

Post #9008073

I think an ounce would be hard to share, LOL! Thanks anyway. I'll get some when I'm up that way in summer, for all the compost materials I will have from the garden. Too bad I have no farm animals... or rabbits.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 15, 2012
4:34 PM

Post #9008119

Here's an interesting site, from Austraila
http://backyardbiodynamics.com/
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2012
4:40 PM

Post #9008126

My neighbors have horses and chickens. We do not have any animals at the moment...other than wild animals...!!! (Deer, rabbits,cougars, raccoons, skunks, coyotes, gophers, moles, voles, ground squirrels, tree squirrels, owls and various birds, stray cats, dogs, horses...LOL...)

So I have a couple of piles of well-aged horse manure. I am just not sure if the hay that they ate was sprayed with anything. I will have to research that. I think everything these days is sprayed with Round Up, or another glyphosate product.

I am too far from Virginia. I have emailed them since they did not show the shipping prices on their website. I am used to ordering straight from a website. That does not seem possible there.



This message was edited Feb 16, 2012 10:41 AM
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2012
10:08 PM

Post #9008413

FA:
February 2012 13th -15th Plant Carrots, Turnips, Onions, Beets, Irish Potatoes And Other Root Crops, In The South. Lettuce, Cabbage, Collards, And Other Leafy Vegetables Will Do Well. Start Seedbeds. Good Days For Transplanting.

Leaf Planet: Scorpio MOON: Last quarter

Synodic:
Do not sow anything in the garden. Instead use this time to weed and harvest. It is an excellent time to start building a new compost heap.

Biodynamic:
Moon in Scorpio:Water sign. Sow Leaf plants like Cabbages. Do not sow Fruiting plants like Broad Beans, Cucumbers

Sidereal:
Moon in Scorpio: An excellent time for planting, germination and strong sturdy growth will result Plant Carrots, Turnips, Onions, Beets, Irish Potatoes And Other Root Crops, In The South. Lettuce, Cabbage, Collards, And Other Leafy Vegetables Will Do Well. Start Seedbeds. Good Days For Transplanting.

It looks as though whatever we chose to do today, it will be supported by one of these calendars...LOL!! So on this day, Feb 15th, I sowed the following "leaf" seeds:

Celery Utah Lake Valley Seeds 2012
Coriander/Cilantro Confetti Value Seeds 2009
Cilantro Large Leaf Pinetree Seeds 2010
Lemon Balm Pinetree Seeds 2010
Lemon Grass Pinetree Seeds 2010
Lettuce Australian Yellowleaf Seed Saver's Exchange 2012
Lettuce Baby Oak Cherry Gal Seeds 2010
Lettuce Baby Red Cherry Gal Seeds 2010
Lettuce Bibb Ferry Morse Seeds 2008
Lettuce Buttercrunch Value Seeds 2009
Lettuce Butterhead Red Park Seed 2010
Lettuce Esmerelda Park Seed 2010
Lettuce Grand Rapids Ferry Morse 2000
Lettuce Grand Rapids Ferry Morse 2000
Lettuce Grand Rapids Ferry Morse 2007
Lettuce Marveille De Quarte Saisons Cherry Gal Seeds 2010
Lettuce Red Deer's Tongue trade with Mellen 2009
Lettuce Tom Thumb Page Seeds 1991
Parsley Triple Curled Pinetree Seeds 2010
Spinach Bloomsdale Long Standing Pinetree Seeds 2010

Coleus Wizard Scarlet Pinetree Seeds 2010
Dichondra Silver Falls Park Seed 2010
Dusty Miller Chrysanthemum ptarmicaeflorum Burpee 2010
Dusty Miller Silver Dust Senecio cineraria Swallowtail Seeds 2010
Ornamental Millet Purple Majesty Swallowtail Seeds 2010
Plectranthus Silver Shield Park Seed 2010




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darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 16, 2012
5:23 AM

Post #9008527

Evelyn, they have a toll-free number on their website, give them a call. I know Ron ships because he has shipped to me. S/H has never been outrageous, either.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 16, 2012
1:41 PM

Post #9009051

Darius, Cristina and drthor ~ Have you started anything new since the beginning of the month, other than what you have already reported?

Anyone else following any of the calendars?

Darius ~ Ron has not yet responded to my email. Thanks for the link to the Aussie website. It has finally loaded. (Sorry, it was just slow to download for me.)


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cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 16, 2012
3:51 PM

Post #9009193

evelyn what is happening is that water sign are very beneficial and Scorpio gives a strong influence.

As you know we are in Summer over here and I do succession planting Now I am preparing my Autumn planting, up to now I already have planted a cool season spring crop that I already harvested I did follow with summer crop and as I said now I am doing my Autumn vegies.

I will put the some cover crop during winter and this year I will put red clover ...

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 16, 2012
3:57 PM

Post #9009198

I was born in Scorpio, and I'm definitely a water baby!

Evelyn, pick up the phone and CALL him; it's free. He closes for lunch, 12-1 EST. PS, he's just a small organic grower who sells stuff because no one else around here does, and he has just 1 helper.

I thought the biodynamic tree paste on that Aussie site was interesting.



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evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 16, 2012
6:48 PM

Post #9009363

Heh, heh...another Scorpio...me too! I guess I can call him tomorrow.

Tomorrow I will start some tomatoes and also some peas.

I will post the list tomorrow here, and on the tomato forum.
kathy__bee
Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 16, 2012
10:44 PM

Post #9009519

Ok, I'm going to jump in here even though I can't swim. All I want is to try to grow some tomatoes here in zone 8a (I think). The more I read, the more confused I become. I would love to try drthor's way, as he's been successful and we're only any hour's drive apart. Are tomatoes flower or fruit? If I can't start indoors now, will another planting time come around? Can I use the calendar to plant seeds in my Aerogerden to start my tomatoes?

I have great success with houseplants, but haven't been able to grow decent tomatoes since I left my chicken tractors on the farm. We have a nice small lot in the city, but I'm sure the previous owner used fertilizers and pesticides, so organic gardening is a bit of a stretch. But, I have dug out 2 circular rose beds appx 10ft diameter and backfilled with organic rose soil from a reputable supplier. And I would like to do the same with a tomato bed.

Any suggestions are appreciated. Maybe there's a dummies book out there for me...lol

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 17, 2012
4:23 AM

Post #9009574

kathy, my tomatoes have failed for the last 2 years, mostly from pests. Oh I had LOTS of tomatoes, just bug-eaten. My understanding is that tomatoes should be rotated around the garden, not replanted in the same area.

Tomatoes are a fruit. Plant today and tomorrow, or again on the 27th, according to drthor's calendar. The calendar says fruit can also be started on the 'flower' day Feb 23 and up to 4pm (eastern time) the 24th. I don't see that overlap happen much.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
6:45 AM

Post #9009696

kathy__bee,
tomatoes are FRUIT crop.
TOO LATE to start seeds indoors right now. Sorry.
The biggest problem in our city is that people start to transplant the tomatoes too late.
When temperature are too hot the tomatoes will not set fruits here in the metroplex.
In the past 3 years I always did transplant out my tomatoes in February (under protections). And I have been very successfull.
Yes, we might have a freeze end of March or beginning of April ... so be ready to cover them.

Have a look at the thread I made last year:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1159852/
It is long ... just watch the pictures ...

Now, seriously it is TOO LATE to start your own tomatoes from seeds.
You can play with your Aerogerden ... if you want ...
As a suggestion, in your Aerogerden grow some Basil, because it is a perfect "companion" plant for yout tomatoes.

You are in the same side of town of North Haven Garden, and soon they will have their tomato sale.
Here is the list: http://www.nhg.com/tomatoes.htm
Call them everyday to know when the plants will arrive. I am serious.
People go crazy for their tomato plants.

While you wait to buy plants, just prepare your beds.
You CANNOT grow good tomatoes on our clay soil. Raised beds is highly recomended.
NHG has a fantastic vegetable mix soil, and add EXPANDED SHALES to that mix and you will set for years.

It might seems that I have shared profit of NHG ... I wish I did ...
I love NHG. They were the only one a few years ago to help me with my vegetable bed ... nobody in town could answer the simple question :"which soil shall I use in my vegetabe garden?"
They also thought me what to plant and when. Their classes are fantatstic.

Honestly their soil it is not cheap, but I NEVER had a problem and I always grow fantastic veggies ALL YEAR AROUND. (yes kathy__bee here in Dallas actually the best season is the fall/winter). At the end I saved a lot of money and frustrations.

Here is a picture of my new veggie bed. Just finished.
It will be full of tomatoes for now.

Good luck to you.
if you are interested I could d-mail you the info of my contractor. He did all the heavy work on moving rocks and bricks for me.




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drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
6:48 AM

Post #9009700

kathy__bee
I really recommend you to attend this class (I did attend it 3 years ago)
Randy Johnson at Texas Discovery Garden (teh butterflies house by Fair park) is just amazing. He though me a lot.

Modern Victory Gardens: Spring/Summer Veggie Gardening
March 17, 2012 from 9 am - Noon

Join a growing trend and learn how to create a bountiful organic community or backyard vegetable garden with Director of Horticulture Randy Johnson.
We cover hands-on seasonal gardening topics. $25; $20 for TDG Members. Register in advance.

http://texasdiscoverygardens.org/events_and_classes.php#mar
kathy__bee
Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
9:01 AM

Post #9009887

Oh my gosh! Thank you so all so much! Drthor, your gardens are beautiful! I have never been to NHG, but I'm headed there today to check it out. I may have to start very small with just a few plants in containers, but if successful, it will spur me on to go bigger as finances/time/space permits.

Darius, I agree with you about rotating tomatoes. I do miss my chickens. I had my best veggie gardens with their help.

Drthor, did you provide shading for your tomatoes during last years intense summer heat? I know it was too hot to expect much production in July and August, but did you cut them back to help them onto the latter part of the summer? Any plants I had in full sun and containers seemed to cook in their planters last year. Perhaps my huge glazed ceramic pots held too much heat for their roots to handle.

I'm so excited! I want to get started this weekend!

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
10:30 AM

Post #9009962

No shade for tomatoes.
Here in Dallas they will not produce by mid July or August. Too hot.
I normally grow cucumbers underneath the tomato plants by July 4th ...
The tomato plants will shade the cukes and I will cut down the tomato plants by mid/end of july .
I DO NOT do fall tomatoes ... sorry I have tried, they just do not good for me ... in my limited space I need to make choice.
I rather have all the fall greens instead.

Serioulsy ... if you transplant your tomatoes at the right time (end of Feb, beginning of March) you will have so many tomatoes ...
don't even try to waiste your time on tomato plants july and august

When you go to NHG, make sure you will ask where is their "vegetable garden display". It is in the back.
They have different raised beds all constructed in different ways for ideas ...


ps. Okra does fantastic in our summer heat !!

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 17, 2012
10:50 AM

Post #9009980

I just got Maria Thun's Biodynamic Sowing 2012 calendar in the mail. There's a surprising amount of information in it. For one thing, sowing seed and transplanting are not the same. Transplanting should be in the correct sign, BUT only in a descending moon. She also addresses cutting scions (for grafting) in separate times from actually grafting or rooting. Too much info to type it all here.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9009989

What does she say about sowing seeds?

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 17, 2012
11:16 AM

Post #9010000

Sow according to the calendar.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
2:36 PM

Post #9010258

The new thread will be from Feb 15th on for sowing, planting and results. We can continue to chat in a general way and share info on methods, products and anything related here. I am afraid I have made this thread too general and the ones who would like to participate in the calendars and results should be able to refer to it easily, if that is OK with everyone here.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1243056/
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
3:05 PM

Post #9010287

Darius, have you sown your leeks yet? Anyone else sown anything since Feb 15th? Please let's share our sowings and results on the new thread, and we can continue to chat about the various aspects of gardening by the moon and the various calendars here.

Welcome kathy_bee and ErzsebetF to the forum!

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 17, 2012
3:40 PM

Post #9010338

I planted the Babington leeks Feb 12 (root day, moon in Virgo). So far one tray (the greenest of the rooted bublets) has tiny sprouts coming up on the tops of a few of the bublets! I just discovered I didn't mark the florence fennel date on the tray, but fortunately I posted it above, the 13th. The broadleaf sage I planted on the 7th (leaf day, moon on a node) is breaking through the potting soil; unfortunately the white ceremonial sage done at the same time isn't doing as well. Only 1 seedling out of 6 seeds... 2 came up very fast, but one has pooped out.

I cut fruit scions for rooting 2 days ago, and today dipped in hormone and "planted" 16 elderberries, 15 Nanking cherries (for the birds), and 12 filberts. I've never tried to do woody cuttings before, so it will be interesting. The biodynamic book I got today says scions should be cut when the moon is ascending, and then planted at the right time. Mine were cut in a descending moon...

I still have Beach Plums and black currants to cut stems for rooting when the signs are right again, and I also need to see what else is still available in the yard or my neighbor's yard. I have Osage Orange and Siberian Pea Shrub seeds stratifying in the fridge (and some ginseng seeds), but those need at least another month in there.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 17, 2012
3:48 PM

Post #9010355

I guess my post above should rightly go on the new page Evelyn started. I'll copy the relevant bits over...

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
6:04 PM

Post #9010488

darius,
I have laminated the calendar insert in M. Thun book.
I have attached to my laundry room electric panel with magnets ... so it is easy to look at every day.
I just follow the colors and do not ask many questions.

Good luck to you !
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 17, 2012
7:50 PM

Post #9010587

Darius ~ You have been busy. Yes, it will be interesting to see what hardwood cuttings come through. I did some last year with good results, but not with fruit trees, just some small shrubs.

drthor ~ Great idea, about the chart lamination. I keep my charts by my seeds as I have different kinds of charts. Mainly when to sow, as I missed some of the earlies last year. And thanks to you and others, I will time my cole crops a bit better this coming summer.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 18, 2012
4:15 AM

Post #9010739

drthor, that's a good idea, but the insert doesn't include the planetary aspects nor the notes for the month. I'm intrigued by her comments like "seeds sown at times of opposition resulted in a higher yield of top quality crops"... and I LOVE the pictorial pages of the moon through the phases and constellations!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 18, 2012
1:33 PM

Post #9011239

Darius ~ I have a question...does she say that one can plant flowering plants when it is time to plant fruiting plants?

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 18, 2012
1:50 PM

Post #9011243

Not really. Just ONE time in the whole year, and that's after 6pm Feb. 22, and until 4pm (all Eastern times) Feb. 23. Look at drthor's photo of the Feb. page above.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 18, 2012
2:43 PM

Post #9011294

darius ... I just follow the colors in the calendar ... it is enough for me.
They have done all the studies and so far the calendar has NEVER been wrong.
Good luck to you !

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 18, 2012
3:03 PM

Post #9011322

I agree that is enough for gardening, BUT the notes also mention things like making yogurt, which I didn't see until AFTER I made the last batch for my cat who loves yogurt. She won't touch it, and now I see the notes say I made it on the only time of the month I should NOT have made yogurt. sigh
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 18, 2012
6:11 PM

Post #9011511

Darius ~ Have you tasted the yogurt?

drthor ~ I like easy, and color-coded. Your garden is the proof enough that all the things that you are doing, does indeed, work. Have you yet recovered from all your hard work? Every spring I am not prepared for all the pain that follows. Right now it is drizzling outside. Hardly enough to call it a rain, but we need the moisture as we are already into drought if we don't get a lot more rain before summer, as it rarely rains in summer in California. We have had only small amaounts of snow, not anything like last year, but don't want that much either! I guess we gardeners are never happy with the weather. I have a earache and sore throat, so I wouldn't be working outside today anyway.

Cristina ~ Has it been a hot, dry summer for you?

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 18, 2012
8:11 PM

Post #9011593

No, I didn't taste it. The texture is grainy, but it smells okay... and I know the milk was good because I did taste it first.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 18, 2012
9:06 PM

Post #9011630

evelyn_inthegarden
today did rain the all day and night ...
My poor tomatoes ... I hope they didn't drown.
I was prepared for wind and cold ... but nor the wet ...
oh well ... let's hope they can make the night ...if they do they will be ok ...
otherwise i will make a trip to the nursery ...
This is a hobby for me and I love challenges ... it is fun ...
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 20, 2012
6:09 PM

Post #9014015

drthor ~ You did not sound like it was so much fun. We all have our variables when it comes to weather. I hope you don't have to replace them with store bought nursery starts after all the hard work and patience you put into this project.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 20, 2012
6:12 PM

Post #9014019

My earache and sore throat is just about gone, but now I have bronchitis. I just have to avoid it getting any worse, so I have not been working outside at all for the last few days. I am beginning to feel better, so hopefully this will be it for the year.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 20, 2012
6:50 PM

Post #9014081

Thanks and wish you the best.
also to me and my tomatoes too !
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 22, 2012
3:52 PM

Post #9016298

I haven't had all the time I'd like to have, mum has had a relapse and she was in hospital for a couple of days.

The weather has been, as usual, changing and we are on a bit of a drought, also the UV is really bad here, I thought that in Sydney was bad but here is worse, Southern south America is right under the ever growing Ozone hole, making the sun really bad for about 4 to 5 hours when is right on top of us, dry the soil badly so mulch, mulch and mulch and if it gets too hot burn the leaves of some trees, usually the ornamental suffers much more than fruit trees.

I do have few beds under fruit trees and it does work well for lettuce cucumber, cilantro, beets and others leafy vegies.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

February 22, 2012
5:37 PM

Post #9016431

Sorry to hear about your mother, Christina. Hope she heals quickly!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 22, 2012
9:48 PM

Post #9016686

Prayers for you and your mum. ^_^
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 23, 2012
9:20 AM

Post #9017105

Thanks so much, it is appreciated ...

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 10, 2012
2:42 PM

Post #9037208

I have started to harvested fennel this week.
I read that if a root crop is planted in the correct date it will look good, otherwise it will have a funny shape.
Look at my first fennel of this year: perfect shape.
Everything I have planted in the garden right now following M. Thun calendar is doing well.
My next large planting date will be MARCH 14th, which it is supposed to be a super good day to start FRUIT crop.
I will start from seeds indoor: okra, zucchini, cucumbers and some beans ..

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darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

March 10, 2012
3:07 PM

Post #9037228

Yep, I plan to start fruiting things then too. I've had great success with her calendar, and although I've had some damping off, it's my fault and not the calendar!

I gave in to temptation and took up ONE of the elderberry cuttings I stuck recently. It has some nice roots almost an inch long already. Yahoo!

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 10, 2012
3:09 PM

Post #9037229

That's great !
I love Maria Thun calendar ... so easy ...
My friend didn't believe me and she planted her carrots on LEAF days ... ah ah ... funny shaped carrots !!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

March 10, 2012
3:26 PM

Post #9037248

drthor ~ Will you please post your BD calendar either and/or here and under cristina's calendars?

Thanks, Evelyn

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 10, 2012
4:06 PM

Post #9037291

Evelyn,
I think I will break copyrights rules if I scan and post Maria Thun's Calendar in DG.
The calendar comes in a book and I dunno want any troubles.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

March 10, 2012
6:32 PM

Post #9037455

Didn't you already post the one for last month. I saw the color-coded calendar, and I thought that you had posted it. But, you are probably right about the copyright. You might try to contact Maria Thun and ask her permission. she might like that and allow you to do it, as it might encourage more people to buy her books and calendars.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

March 11, 2012
7:21 PM

Post #9038770

Darius ~ Do you make a lot of potato and leek soup? My husband likes to make it. I have not yet grown any leeks. Maybe I will give them a try. Especially since I will be growing potatoes. I have some seeds, but I do not recall the variety.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

March 12, 2012
5:36 AM

Post #9039113

Yes, I do. I use a LOT of leeks so I always grow them. They are SO expensive to buy. Same for shallots. I seldom grow onions, but garlic, shallots and leeks always get planted!

I clean, slice and many dehydrate leeks too; they don't store a long time like garlic and shallots.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

March 16, 2012
3:19 PM

Post #9045269

I just read online today that Maria Thun (The Biodynamic Planting Calendar) died in February of this year, 2 months short of her 90th birthday.

Her son and daughter have worked with her for many years and will continue her work.
dmac085
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7a)

April 22, 2012
5:16 AM

Post #9092510

Just catching up reading here. Thanks for the info Darius. I think it's really a great tribute to their mom that they are continuing with her work. Sad to consider how much knowledge is lost when older folks pass with no one to pass along that experience to.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

May 3, 2012
3:10 PM

Post #9109106

Today, March 29th, with the Moon in Taurus, being a "root day" on the byodynamic calendar I put 11 cal-Organic (sprouted) potatoes, that were ready to plant for quite a while now. I was waiting for the right time, and of course, not when it was snowing, LOL!! It rained yesterday and the night before last with a lot of wind.

Those potatoes have been covered by compost 3 times already as they are growing vigorously.

The peas have yet to sprout, but the seedlings are doing well. Our weather has been variable to say the least. It has been cold and windy today, and they are predicting a "chance of rain". And then another warm-up for the next few days after that. It is a miracle that any plant knows what to do. So far the apple trees have not yet shown any buds or blooms. Not sure if they will or if they already got knocked off. The companion plants for apples is nasturtiums. I hope I remember to do this this year. When spring comes, there are SO many things to do all at once.

Some of the spinach has bolted due the warm weather, and some has not...go figure!

I think it is too late to plant any more of it, but since I have seedlings not yet up to size, I will plant them in the shady side of corn and/or tomatoes. Same thing with my lettuce seedlings. The parsley and cilantro seedlings are coming along nicely as I have recently pricked them out into pots and/or cell packs.

It is almost time to start squash, beans and melons as well as corn. I will wait for the appropriate moon sign and go from there. If the weather continues to be variable, I could start a few inside. I think we are frost free now, but we still could get rain and cold, windy weather. I know they all like the warmth. I have been thinking of a portable greenhouse. I have tomato starts ready to put out as well, though some are farther along than others.

May is here already! Where does the time go? I will try and catch up with posting my sowings and results on the other thread. Feel free to share with us your results as well.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 3, 2012
3:26 PM

Post #9109121

Evelyn, I have been keeping track of my seedlings, cuttings and transplants... just haven't had much time to post. Of the telling of the tale will be when everything fruits!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

May 3, 2012
8:23 PM

Post #9109530

Yes I suppose that would be the way to do it. Also, if you sow or cut any in a different sign of the moon than the others and how they fare. I need to erect a spread sheet as my notebook is filling up quickly. I have not included enough details in the book, but I have saved the sheets from the website so I can transfer the info there.
Gazoodles
Iowa Park, TX
(Zone 7b)

May 5, 2012
8:39 PM

Post #9112152

Evelyn, I am new to growing potatoes. Having managed to keep the cutworm/army worms from completely eating their tops off, I am wondering how I will know when they are ready to dig up. Is there some way to know without actually digging up a plant (potatoes)? This last week the weather turned hot (highs in the upper 90's and low hundreds) so the plants are looking rather rough. They were so beautiful couple of weeks ago before the caterpillars got on them. I welcome any advice you may have (or anyone else too.)
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2012
7:59 PM

Post #9113344

I think that they are ready when the tops die down. Anyone else? I will dig mine in fall this year, since last year they did not get large enough. I have some in square foot gardens and some in a raised bed in the ground. I am also curious to see which does better.
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

May 7, 2012
6:42 PM

Post #9114839

You can start harvesting potatoes when they are flowering as an early early crop, 2 to 3 month after planting, the main harvest is when the plant have turned brown, 4 month after planting and or the brown plants are removed.
Remember, some varieties do not flower.

Potatoes needs to be harvested when the vines are killed to permit the skin to set and need to be harvested at certain temperatures to maximize the length for optimum storage. If the temperature is too warm, the pulp deteriorates before cooling can occur. If temperature is too cool, the potatoes are bruised during harvest.

If there is not danger of heavy or lots of rain, you can leave them in the ground for a couple of weeks providing the soil / bed have good drainage and there is not danger of damage cause by feral animals.

Hope this help!
Gazoodles
Iowa Park, TX
(Zone 7b)

May 10, 2012
10:01 PM

Post #9119362

Okay, thank you Evelyn and Cristina

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