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MASTHerbarium
Highlands, NJ
February 6, 2012 9:46 AM Post #8996689
| I need help identification of this plant from a salt marsh in Sandy Hook, NJ. It was collected in the fall and was a bright red color. It almost looked like the plant was on fire. I think that it may be Chenopodium rubrum, but Sandy Hook is not supposed to have it. The color is somewhat diminished in the photograph.
Thanks
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themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
February 6, 2012 6:02 PM Post #8997272
| I have two suggestions...Chamerion augustifolia (which I am not sure if it grows in the Sandy Hook area
http://uswildflowers.com/images/full/dsc02715.jpg
and the plants listed on pages 66-70 in the link below for Estuarine Marshes of New Jersey.
http://library.fws.gov/wetlands/NJ_wetlands85.pdf |
altagardener
Calgary, AB (Zone 3b)
February 6, 2012 6:30 PM Post #8997303
| Fireweed, Chamerion angustifolium, is common here, and the plant in question really doesn't have the characteristics of fireweed. I'd suggest comparing to Rumex spp., perhaps? |
MASTHerbarium
Highlands, NJ
February 6, 2012 7:34 PM Post #8997388
| It doesn't seem to be a fireweed. I looked through those pages that you posted and nothing seemed to match up. Thanks anyway |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
February 7, 2012 4:52 AM Post #8997602
| I didn't really think fireweed was right, it was just the only plant that showed real stem color...I searched through the Wildflowers of NJ also and nothing red stemmed showed up there either. Sorry. |
MASTHerbarium
Highlands, NJ
February 7, 2012 9:36 AM Post #8997947
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suse
Bretten
Germany
February 7, 2012 9:43 AM Post #8997949
| Some kind of Atriplex? Perhaps Atriplex sagittata? |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
February 7, 2012 10:13 AM Post #8997972
| These are species of Atriplex found in New Jersey
http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/taxa/north-america.php?st...
Hi Suse...hope you are keeping warm... |
suse
Bretten
Germany
February 7, 2012 10:31 AM Post #8997996
| Great site!!!
Hi Moon, last night we had 1.4°F...brrr... (-17°C) |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
February 7, 2012 10:40 AM Post #8998005
| You folks are getting hit really hard. Stay warm and be safe. |
MASTHerbarium
Highlands, NJ
February 8, 2012 9:59 AM Post #8999199
| themoonhowl wrote:These are species of Atriplex found in New Jersey
http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/taxa/north-america.php?st...
Hi Suse...hope you are keeping warm...
Thanks Moonhowl! I appreciate the suggestion. |
MASTHerbarium
Highlands, NJ
February 8, 2012 10:00 AM Post #8999203
| -17 is very cold. Good luck |
MASTHerbarium
Highlands, NJ
February 8, 2012 10:01 AM Post #8999204
| Does anyone think that it could be a Chenopodium? |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
February 8, 2012 1:00 PM Post #8999430
| It was originally Altagardener's suggestion, I just provided a link. Looking at Chenopodium in NJ, there are a couple with reddish stems...I have a hard time putting all the pieces together, since the original plant is kinda dried out, but here are the Chenopodium in New Jersey for comparison
http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/taxa/north-america.php?st... |
altagardener
Calgary, AB (Zone 3b)
February 8, 2012 4:34 PM Post #8999643
| The original poster suggested Chenopodium, not me.
Please post close up photos of the sample, and of any other samples you may have from the plant. Do you have any photos of the plant in situ?
Have you looked into the characteristics that differentiate Chenopodium from Atriplex; it would certainly be useful.
Which species of Atriplex have been recorded in Sandy Hook? Have you compared them to your sample?
If you want to investigate whether it's a species that has not been previously recorded in the locale, all this would be pretty basic to the investigation.
Here's another one
Atriplex rosea:
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://luirig.altervista... |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
February 9, 2012 4:39 AM Post #9000052
| Sorry Altagardener, Masterherbarium thanked me for the Atriplex suggestion, which you made...I merely supplied a link, and then I provided a link for Chenopodium for comparison. I have no idea as to the ID. |
altagardener
Calgary, AB (Zone 3b)
February 9, 2012 5:25 AM Post #9000089
| Sorry, themoonhowl, it was Suse that suggested Atriplex, not me. (Are we following the same thread? ;-) )
And it's an excellent suggestion to follow up on. |
podster
Deep East Texas, TX (Zone 8a)
February 9, 2012 5:36 AM Post #9000100
| It does resemble a Chenopodium I grow but if it is, it will have a distinctive odor (even the stems and seeds). Rather offensive and commonly described as a kerosene smell.
edited to add ~ MASTHerbarium, regarding your comment that 'but Sandy Hook is not supposed to have it.', if Chenopodium was ever planted in that area as an annual it could freely reseed and is hard to erradicate.
This message was edited Feb 9, 2012 8:11 AM |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
February 9, 2012 5:44 AM Post #9000113
| Sorry Altagardener...again...and I agree, Atriplex family does seem a good choice...as to being on the same thread...maybe?...grin |
