All are invited to participate and share your experiences with the various calendars that Cristina has taken the time to share with us.
Many (calendars) seem to be in conflict with each other, so do what you can to document the day that you sow the seeds, the conditions, and when the sprouts appear, and if they are suitable for growing on. Since we have a variety of calendars from which to chose this year, we can sow something on almost every day. It will be interesting if any are trying out the different calendars, and to see which one works the best for you.
It does not matter which one you follow or which one you prefer. We are all interested to see what kinds of results we can gather. I, myself, will try a variety and then see if there are different results.
The other thread will be for chatting, and this one will be for sowing, planting and results. Otherwise we will be getting lost. We can discuss more general topics about the subject on the other thread and this one will be just for logging in our sowings, plantings and results.
I am not going to copy the other thread for the first half of February. So this will be from February 15th and beyond. If it gets too long, I will start a new one.
February 2012 13th -15th Plant Carrots, Turnips, Onions, Beets, Irish Potatoes And Other Root Crops, In The South. Lettuce, Cabbage, Collards, And Other Leafy Vegetables Will Do Well. Start Seedbeds. Good Days For Transplanting.
Leaf Planet: Scorpio MOON: Last quarter
Do not sow anything in the garden. Instead use this time to weed and harvest. It is an excellent time to start building a new compost heap.
Moon in Scorpio:Water sign. Sow Leaf plants like Cabbages. Do not sow Fruiting plants like Broad Beans, Cucumbers
Moon in Scorpio: An excellent time for planting, germination and strong sturdy growth will result Plant Carrots, Turnips, Onions, Beets, Irish Potatoes And Other Root Crops, In The South. Lettuce, Cabbage, Collards, And Other Leafy Vegetables Will Do Well. Start Seedbeds. Good Days For Transplanting.
It looks as though whatever we chose to do today, it will be supported by one of these calendars...LOL!! So on this day, Feb 15th, I sowed the following "leaf" seeds:
Celery Utah Lake Valley Seeds 2012
Coriander/Cilantro Confetti Value Seeds 2009
Cilantro Large Leaf Pinetree Seeds 2010
Lemon Balm Pinetree Seeds 2010
Lemon Grass Pinetree Seeds 2010
Lettuce Australian Yellowleaf Seed Saver's Exchange 2012
Lettuce Baby Oak Cherry Gal Seeds 2010
Lettuce Baby Red Cherry Gal Seeds 2010
Lettuce Bibb Ferry Morse Seeds 2008
Lettuce Buttercrunch Value Seeds 2009
Lettuce Butterhead Red Park Seed 2010
Lettuce Esmerelda Park Seed 2010
Lettuce Grand Rapids Ferry Morse 2000
Lettuce Grand Rapids Ferry Morse 2000
Lettuce Grand Rapids Ferry Morse 2007
Lettuce Marveille De Quarte Saisons Cherry Gal Seeds 2010
Lettuce Red Deer's Tongue trade with Mellen 2009
Lettuce Tom Thumb Page Seeds 1991
Parsley Triple Curled Pinetree Seeds 2010
Spinach Bloomsdale Long Standing Pinetree Seeds 2010
Coleus Wizard Scarlet Pinetree Seeds 2010
Dichondra Silver Falls Park Seed 2010
Dusty Miller Chrysanthemum ptarmicaeflorum Burpee 2010
Dusty Miller Silver Dust Senecio cineraria Swallowtail Seeds 2010
Ornamental Millet Purple Majesty Swallowtail Seeds 2010
Plectranthus Silver Shield Park Seed 2010
I planted Babington leeks Feb 12 (root day, moon in Virgo). So far one tray (the greenest of the rooted bublets) has tiny sprouts coming up on the tops of a few of the bublets! The florence fennel date on the 13th (root day, moon in Virgo). The broadleaf sage I planted on the 7th (leaf day, moon on a node) is breaking through the potting soil; unfortunately the white ceremonial sage done at the same time isn't doing as well. Only 1 seedling out of 6 seeds... 2 came up very fast, but one has pooped out.
I cut fruit scions for rooting 2 days ago, and today dipped in hormone and "planted" 16 elderberries, 15 Nanking cherries (for the birds), and 12 filberts (fruit day, moon in Saggitarius). I've never tried to do woody cuttings before, so it will be interesting. The biodynamic book I got today says scions should be cut when the moon is ascending, and then planted at the right time. Mine were cut in a descending moon...
Sow leafy vegetables and annuals that produce above ground. Lettuce, Spinach, Asparagus, Broccoli, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Sweetcorn, Cucumber. Grains are also good to plant now. Vegetables harvested today need to be eaten, they will not stored well.
Moon in Pisces: Water sign. Do sow Leaf plants like Cabbage. Do not sow Fruiting plants like Cucumbers,,
Moon in Pisces: water sign promotes root growth.
Did anyone here say LEAF??
On Saturday, 2-25-2012, I sowed the following seeds:
Here are the cuttings I started rooting on Feb. 17...First photo os Elderberries, 2nd one is a mix of Nanking Cherry and Hazelnut. The hazels aren't showing any growth yet, while the cherries have already gone from flowering to some tiny leaf tips showing.
I don't dare disturb any of them to see if any rootlets are starting!
I suppose there are many different almanacs and we are trying to see what works and what are the variables, such as certain barren signs and if the biodynamic calendar will trump that or just avoid the barren signs altogether.
The Florence fennel I started Feb. 13 are growing their first true leaves, but I am losing some of them to damping off disease. I might try transplanting them to individual pots with clean, new soil mix today.
The ceremonial white sage (Feb. 7th) decided to sprout a few more seeds (4 out of 6 seeds sprouted) and I lost one to damping off. The culinary sage (Feb. 7) is getting true leaves (and a little damping off also) and need transplanting to individual pots, but the only good time by Maria Thun's calendar is next Tuesday from 8am-1pm EST.
By the way Evelyn, you asked me some time back about transplanting dates vs. sowing dates. I missed it at first, but if you look at the photo of Feb dates that drthor posted on another thread, there's a tall vertical green bar at the left of the colored bars for fruit, leaf, and roots. It shows the best Northern hemisphere transplanting times during each month for each type. It's not all month. On my page of that calendar, the best transplanting times for March stop several days after the full moon (full moon was 3/8 and transplant times end 3/12 - 3/13). They begin again 3/29.
gingerlily, here's a website... It's set to GMT, so you have to adjust the time zone differences, which I think is adding 5 hours for us on the East Coast. There's a good explanation of the differences in the three moon planting methods on that same page. http://www.the-gardeners-calendar.co.uk/Moon_Planting.asp
I'm using Maria Thun's Biodynamic planting guide this year, available from Amazon. Her dates do not completely correlate with the biodynamic dates on the link just above. Maria has 50+ years working with biodynamics and Rudolpf Steiner's methods, and so far my results from her data has been spot-on.
Sow root vegetables, berries, bulbs, onions, biennials, and perennials.
Moon in Libra: Air sign. Sow Flowering plants like Broccoli, Cauliflowers. Do not sow Rooting plants like Beetroot, Carrots, Chives,Leeks, Onions, Potatoes ….
11/3 2012 Moon in Virgo: Dry and barren. Garden maintenance only.
12/3/2012 Moon in Libra: Sow green manures or cover crops.
Today is a "flower" day via the BD calendar. It is too wet outside to sow or put out any roots anyway as it rained last night. I put some potatoes in yesterday, as it was a "root day". Some in the ground and some in a "Square Foot Garden". The gophers MAY get what is in the ground.
You have heard that "Man does not live by bread alone." I say that "(this) woman does not live by veggies alone"!
All seeds are from 2010 except the last one which was from a DG member last year. Some were put outside and some under heat and lights indoors, and others on the bottom shelf no heat little light. I am running out of room.
Just some Musselman Leeks yesterday (actually it may have been the day before). I usually buy leek starts from Dixondale, but they no longer have the Musselman leeks, and I don't like their nre variety as much. For one thing, Musselman's can be left in the ground all winter. I;ve dug them from under snow and ice several times!
I just lost my entire post...where did it go? I wasn't through typing it yet...I have to wintersow now, until anything gets big enough to take outside as all of my indoor spaces are taken now. The following I sowed into 4" pots and covered them with a plastic bag.
Yesterday, March 12th, I wintersowed the following "flowers":
Forget Me Not 'Bluebird'
Larkspur 'Blue Cloud'
Clarkia 'Apple Blossom'
Anchusa 'Blue Angel'
Painted Daisy single Mix
Hollyhock 'Peaches and Dreams'
Alyssum 'Apricot Shades'
Alyssum 'Aphrodite' wine red
Alyssum 'Royal Carpet'
Calendula 'Apricot Daisy'
Lupin Cherry Red (saved seed)
Canterbury Bells pink (from saved seed)
I have more to do, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. It has been pouring rain all day and cold and windy! Winter was mild...Dec, Jan, Feb...much warmer and dryer. I was wondering if we would get winter, but now it is here. We have only had the tiniest bit of snow...it's raining now.
Today, March 19th, I have transplanted the following into individual pots and them put them in my basement under lights. (I am out of room so I am adapting other benches with lights as well as the fluorescent light shelves.)
I had more but I ran out of soil mix and I did not want to go out in the snow to get one of the components of the mix, as it is late, cold, and I have run out of space in the basement as I need more light shelves. It is too soon to harden anything off right now as the daytime temps have been 40° during the day and under 30° at night.
According to my biodynamic calendar, today (March 22) is a leaf day, and I planted the following, mostly herbs. I found this neat self-watering container made from 2 liter soda bottles, so I made a dive into the recycling center's bins for bottles. They are great, but you MUST use a soil-less mix that will wick water up to the top. Do download the PDF from the blog post below... it's very specific on how to make them. I now have about 20 on my shelf just below the windowsill. http://welcomehomefarm-tj.blogspot.com/2012/03/sub-irrigation-planters-from-soda.html
Today's seed planting:
green shisho (perilla)
Mrs. Burn's lemon basil
sweet basil (old seeds, not expecting anything much to germinate)
Italian basil a friend sent 3-4 years ago, (old seeds, not expecting anything much to germinate)
lemon bee balm
redbud (flowering tree)
I intended to start some chervil today too, but the package says to plant the seeds in the ground as it doesn't like to be moved.
Today, March 29th, with the Moon in Taurus, being a "root day" on the byodynamic calendar I put 11 cal-Organic (sprouted) potatoes, that were ready to plant for quite a while now. I was waiting for the right time, and of course, not when it was snowing, LOL!! It rained yesterday and the night before last with a lot of wind.
Those potatoes have been covered by compost 3 times already as they are growing vigorously.
The peas have yet to sprout, but the seedlings are doing well. Our weather has been variable to say the least. It has been cold and windy today, and they are predicting a "chance of rain". And then another warm-up for the next few days after that. It is a miracle that any plant knows what to do. So far the apple trees have not yet shown any buds or blooms. Not sure if they will or if they already got knocked off. The companion plants for apples is nasturtiums. I hope I remember to do this this year. When spring comes, there are SO many things to do all at once.
Some of the spinach has bolted due the warm weather, and some has not...go figure!
I think it is too late to plant any more of it, but since I have seedlings not yet up to size, I will plant them in the shady side of corn and/or tomatoes. Same thing with my lettuce seedlings. The parsley and cilantro seedlings are coming along nicely as I have recently pricked them out into pots and/or cell packs.
It is almost time to start squash, beans and melons as well as corn. I will wait for the appropriate moon sign and go from there. If the weather continues to be variable, I could start a few inside. I think we are frost free now, but we still could get rain and cold, windy weather. I know they all like the warmth. I have been thinking of a portable greenhouse. I have tomato starts ready to put out as well, though some are farther along than others.
No. Some, like currants and blueberries are fruits even though they flower. I think it depends on what their primary purpose is, like lavender has flowers but it's a leaf plant. Don't know about all of them though.
Yesterday, May 11th, I planted out some tomato seedlings that I had raised along with seeds of corn and bush beans.
Today, March 12th I will put out some beet seedlings that are in the basement. I have been bringing them outside for hardening off. They will go in the square foot garden that is now housing the cool-season veggies as I have put row cover over them to protect them from the heat of the sun.
I think I will look and some of the potato seedlings and see if I can separate them...not sure if I will plant them out until later, but maybe put them into cell-packs or gallon cans.
Yesterday I transplanted 23 elderberry cuttings I rooted into "tall tree pots" so they can grow more roots before planting out, maybe another month. That means 27 (total) out of around 35 rooted and did quite well. I still have 6 that are iffy... leafing out but no sign of roots! I won't plant all those in my yard, hope to sell or trade about half... I've already given 4 to friends.
Still to early here for tomatoes; I haven't even started seeds. But the summer squash are in the ground, and the winter squash are growing nicely in their cells.
So far, at least 95% of my seed starting and/or transplanting is by Maria Thun's biodynamic calendar. I'm expecting to get some earth-moving equipment in here soon, so not a lot will happen until that is finished. I'll try to do an update soon!
Oh, and I also put seeds in for 2 kinds of haricot vert. (skinny french beans) Today, I did nothing except weed and water. tomorrow is another day. (There are still plenty of weeds to go around...everything!) LOL!!
Way to go, Darius. I wouldn't mind trading something for one or two of your elderberries. I hope that I have something that you want.
Evelyn, they need another couple of weeks for better root growth. I'm mainly interested this year in perennial fruiting shrubs/trees/vines for zone 5-6, or insectaries... although I have quite a few started. We'll talk...
Update on my fruit cuttings: I took elderberry cuttings in early Feb. on a fruit day, moon in Saggitarius. So far my success rate has been very high, considering I really didn't know what I was doing! A few days ago I transplanted 27 to treepots (tall and skinny pots) to develop better roots. I have another 6 that developed top growth but NO roots, and 2 more that developed roots but no top growth.
I've already traded 4 away, will plant about a dozen in my yard in a few weeks, and sell or trade the others.
OK, It looks like that there are only 3 or 4 of us here. My tomatoes are still green, since I planted them so late, but they really have loads of tomatoes on them. Of couse, our weather was warmer (hotter!) this year as well. No eggplants or peers yet. The beans have been doing well, except for where the gophers got them.
The corn cobs are not filling out well yet, but I still have hope on that.
I have planted all of my gardens according to the bio-dynamic calendar.
Evelyn, I need to look at my notes and post a better update. Summer weather (lack of rain and HOT temps) have taken a toll on my garden, although the lemon squash have been outstanding, esp. for resistance to bugs. The Romanesco zucchini did great, but far too short before succumbing to bugs.
I didn't plant many tomatoes, maybe 3-4 plants, mainly because the brown marmorated stink bugs have ruined the harvest for the last 2 years. However, I do see a few tomatoes starting on the few I did plant. Winter squash are doing okay but not great; the factors affecting them are lack of rain, and that they are planted on a hugelkultur berm that's new, not enough topsoil on it, and doesn't hold water yet.
On the other hand, I could feed a couple of families with my Swiss chard growing in afternoon shade.
My garden is weed-choked, which doesn't help. I've been ill and haven't had the energy to tend it properly. The harvest of garlic, shallots and onions was good, but those were planted either last fall and early spring before drought conditions set in.
I am sorry about your poor health. I hope that you are better by now. I, also, have been having some health problems. Right now, of course, is the extreme heat for an extended time. It rarely gets into the 90's and it has been in the 90's for about a week now. I water the best that I can, but is it enough for the corn? The ears are not filling out well. I dusted some pollen on them, but it may not be enough. This is my first year growing so many veggies all at once.
The strawberries did great, the blueberries were a disaster! The leaves were chewed as well as the berries. Next year I will get some tulle to cover as they looked great when covered by the clover. As soon as I removed the weeds, the bugs took over. I guess it was earwigs, as there are quite a few. I had better mix up some neem oil, as they were in the corn as well, though I did not see any damage yet. Have you ever trapped earwigs? Under a lid or wet newspaper? I will have to go all out to protect what is left.
I even planted my leftover tomato seedlings...in all parts of the gardens and in pots, and of course, in the Square Foot Gardens. The best were actually in large plastic pots. They are getting huge, and loaded with fruit.
The zucchini is still going strong, with just 2 plants. I am glad that I did not plant more. Some cantaloupe self-seeded and I pulled almost all of them but two, as they were "compost" seedlings. I am surprised to see them, but they may be awful since they are probably from a hybriid...still if they are good, I will save their seed and take my chances. Just the fact theat they wintered over and started early. We did have a very mild winter this year.
I kinda know what earwigs are, but don't see them much in my garden. I understand if we can get the brix in our plants high enough, pests are never a problem. I've been working in that direction for 4 years but still fall short of getting the soil amended properly. I may have to order an expensive soil test from AgLabs.
evelyn good to see you in the garden. And yes the lack of water affect corn and any or most vegetables ...
I'm glad you are better, the same goes for darius.
Neem oil is quite good to spray also if you put a dash of oil, cooking oil in a lt. (quart) of water and give it a big shake before spraying down the silk in your corn will deter the earwig and the corn borer. 2 or 3 tsp of oil will be enough.
Has anyone made any comparisons with the various calendars, or even with and without the calendars?
The only one I made was on stocks. I sowed some on a leaf day and others on a flower day. It did not seem to be much different, as they were both quite small and neither performed up to their expectations. Most everything else I have waited to plant or sow according to the biodynamic calendar.
So far the only really good result was with the zucchini...but that one I could have probably sown 6 different seeds and they might have all wanted to "take over the garden"...
I have not done so well with the corn, as the ears have not filled out well. That migh have been the seeds that were given to me...not sure...
Some tomatoes did great, and others not so good...that might have been due to various light exposures, as none were in sun all day, but most were in most all day...
Now I have sown some peas and lettuce. Anyone else start any fall sowing??
OK, everyone! How was your growing season? Since I had such mixed results, I cannot really report anything special. I did have several good tomatoes, and several really duds! I do not know whether or not it was the soil in the Square Foot Gardens or in their containers. None in the ground got very big and most of them that I planted in the ground were eaten by gophers. My zucchini (Black beauty) was outstanding. I also sowed a hybrid zucchini on the same day and it barely put out any fruit by comparison.
We have so many tall trees that our veggie garden space is not in full sun all day. still, it was quite hot and many were in at least 6 hrs of sun. Those that got less did not do as well. I will grow lettuce and other things next season in those beds, as tomatoes want their day in the sun.
Darius and Cristina ~ What did you grow and what did you take away from this growing season?
Dr.Thor ~ How did your artichokes do in the heat of the summer? Mine did not like the heat, but they are doing much better now. Maybe we will get some next year. I will just leave the 3 plants in the ground and see what happens.
The artichokes did very well. they survived the crazy summer ...now they are growing very well.
I guess that they will bloom in the spring, just like my cardoon.
My vegetable garden harvests have been the best this year.
I have just received the Maria Thun's calendar 2013 and I will keep following it.
Evelyn, remember I'm down south and I am planting nearly everyday, our Spring has been Ok with some rain but some days unusually cold. My fruit trees are doing super and I will have to take some fruit down to get larger/better fruits, all the vegies are going well, so far so good.
My garden year was disappointing, although like Evelyn, I had a great zucchini and lemon squash crop. Some of the problems were weather-related, and some due to garden neglect as I've been ill several times this summer.
My Belgian endive grew great, and thankfully no underground damage. I dug the roots, cut off the tops, and they are in a bucket of potting soil in the cool, dark root cellar. They are starting to send out blanched shoots now.
I have several artichoke plants, hoping they survive the winter. The one that survived last winter never flowered.
darius, hoping you are better and do take care, your winter is just starting,
Perhaps your climate is too cold for artichoke, but even when I said that perhaps your plant will do better next spring, in colder areas that start behaving as biennial and then when they are more mature they become fruiting every year as a proper perennial plant.
Darius ~ Yes, I too, hope that you are better and will continue on as such. I also had my challenges, but we are all hoping for better times.
I, also, had artichokes and they were horrible all summer. Now they are looking good. As long as there is not a severe winter, we might have some better results. I even dug them up and put more compost under them. They seem to be appreciating it, as well as the cooler weather.
So this thread has really turned into a chat thread...not all the results that we wanted to occur. I am disappointed, but will continue to carry on.
I probably will not start any seeds indoors until after the holidays. I have started lettuce outdoors and it is doing well so far. They are in my Square Foot Gardens. I will do more along these lines during the winter. I have one covered with Remay, to protect from frost.