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drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 21, 2012
1:52 PM

Post #9014949

I need some help to identify these seedlings that have self-sown themself this year.
In this area I planted both Zinnias and Sunflowers last year.
I DID break a few seeds from the Sunflower heads ...

To me the seedlings look really similar.

Any help will be appreciated.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 21, 2012
6:03 PM

Post #9015202

I am not familiar with Zinnias, but since they and Sunflower are of the same family Asteraceae they must resemble each other. Probably one of the differences is in the thickness of the leaves.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

February 22, 2012
4:56 AM

Post #9015541

i will take a stab at it looks like sunflowers to me because of the whitish rib in the seed leaf ,pull one up if it is a sunflower it should have a longish white tap root,which I don't think the Zinnias wil; have
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

February 24, 2012
1:14 PM

Post #9018537

They look more like zinnias to me, unless you planted something other than regular sunflowers there. Also, zinnia's are popping up just now and sunflowers are not in my garden. IMOH>
grits74571
Talihina, OK

February 28, 2012
5:45 AM

Post #9022978

Drtthor You never answered on the root thing i have lots of sunflowers up already from feeding the birds

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 28, 2012
5:51 AM

Post #9022985

I have lots of sunflowers popping up too, mine are from last year's sunflowers.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 28, 2012
8:06 AM

Post #9023180

I didn't have time to pull any of those seedlings out ...
I don't want to waste them ... I want to find a good spot in the garden for them ..
They look more like a Sunflower now ...
grits74571
Talihina, OK

February 28, 2012
2:04 PM

Post #9023583

FYI I feed the birds during really bad weather during the winter months and come spring I just plant a handfull of the leftover sunflower seeds ,..They make really tall plants that are just loaded with flower heads ..Just the cheapskate coming out I guess...

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 28, 2012
8:51 PM

Post #9024095

I just love the sunflowers, so cheerful and so good for the wildlife, you can't go wrong with them.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 29, 2012
6:17 AM

Post #9024358

yes ... I agree
Last year I did notice that the "disgusting ... yuk yuk" leaffoted bugs loved them.
They left my tomatoes alone ...
So everybody was happy ...

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 2, 2012
4:58 PM

Post #9027530

The butterflies love the sunflowers and the LF bugs will feed on them when they can. "yuk" for sure.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 3, 2012
4:28 PM

Post #9028688

Today I replanted these mystery plants.
The roots are NOT really long ... just regular ...
The leaves look a lot like a sunflower ... they are drooping down ...

Soon ... we will find out ...
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 3, 2012
9:40 PM

Post #9029032

I'm betting on zinnias, Im terrible at plant ID but Im still going with zinnia. Lol. My Rocket larkspurs are coming up along with a lot of natives I won't sow my annuals until the natives have died back.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 10, 2012
3:12 PM

Post #9037232

My mystery plants are looking more like a SUNFLOWER now.
Look at the zig zag on the leaves ...

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 10, 2012
8:19 PM

Post #9037559

Yes, sunflower for sure.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 17, 2012
6:04 PM

Post #9046572

Sunflower for sure and lots of them ... weeee
sweetmommy
Fulshear, TX
(Zone 9b)

March 19, 2012
9:25 AM

Post #9048697

They look like the smaller sunflowers from the black sunflower seeds I put in my bird feeders. Thanks to the birds, I have them everywhere! Many are blooming here already.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 20, 2012
6:56 AM

Post #9049956

The only sunflowers I seeded last year where the huge Mammoth.
I am hoping for very large plants ...
stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 20, 2012
7:33 PM

Post #9050797

I need to get my sunflower seeds planted!

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2012
8:53 AM

Post #9219310

I am updating my Sunflower pictures.
Those are huge Mammoth Grey Sunflowers !
WOW !
So I will do sprinkle the seeds again in the fall and let nature do its work !

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2012
8:56 AM

Post #9219315

Those Sunflowers grew almost taller than the Crepe Myrtle.
I have collected the largest seed heads and kept for myself, the others will be for the birds.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2012
9:45 AM

Post #9219363

Your sunflowers are beautiful and amazing.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2012
1:30 PM

Post #9219613

frostweed
thanks so much.
This year they were a show-stopper of my front yard.
I think the secret was to let them grow by themselves !
I just couldn't believe they were Sunflower seedlings in February !
stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2012
5:02 PM

Post #9219803

They're beautiful! After seeing your original post, I decided to start my own sunflowers and have just LOVED them! I grew Lemon Queen, but more recently planted some Mammoth Grey. Hope they produce before it gets too cold for them.
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

July 28, 2012
11:46 AM

Post #9221554

I dont see any of my Zinnias appearing, I do have an overgrowth out there that could be the problem. not enough or water.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2012
1:29 PM

Post #9221624

City_Sylvia
it is too for Zinnias to germinate in Dallas ... especially with no rain ...
Zinnias germination temperature is 70-75F. I think I threw my seeds in my garden at the end of February this year.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2012
2:25 PM

Post #9221658

I just tossed some zinnia seeds a couple weeks ago and they are germinating along with the cosmos. That was the week we had a lot of rain. As long as I keep them damp I dont have a problem.
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

July 29, 2012
2:07 PM

Post #9222678

DrThor I am sure I threw them out earlier this year during spring when it was raining. I got so much over growth out there I cant tell what out there.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 29, 2012
4:29 PM

Post #9222862

Jeez Sylvia they could be anywhere in there lol. I always let my native annuals playout before I sow cosmos, zinnias, or sunflowers. I sow them all summer long. Because they are annuals sometimes they die.. I just throw out more seeds. You mite want to give it a try. Keeping them damp will keep the temps down, by evaporative cooling. Im not able to start mine as early as drthor because we get colder temps later in the year here. They are cheap Id have to give it a try

My wild flowers were beautiful thos Spring do to the rain. However, some of my tomatoes died from it. Oh well!
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

July 30, 2012
10:48 PM

Post #9224449

1lisac ... lol ... I dont know what that stuff is with the tiny purple flower, some one gave it me at a plant swap. Its all over the place! Then there is these vines ... another gift? LOL my neighbor hates me, she thinks I am responsible for the crab grass. tch tch.
DrThor those are the biggest seed heads I have ever seen. They look like pillows! :)

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 31, 2012
5:09 AM

Post #9224536

I think it is time for you to move again Sylvia...you need to dig what you want and leave the rest like you did before! LOL!!
grits74571
Talihina, OK

July 31, 2012
5:15 AM

Post #9224541

I let all most all of the volunteer sunflowers in the garden and wound up with a sunflower forest..The Cardinals have laid claim to most of those so this morning is the day most all get cut down //They have turned dark brown and are just plain ugly
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

August 5, 2012
12:12 PM

Post #9230435


Sheila if you come help again, I will move. lol
DO ANYONE RECOGNIZE THAT PLANT IN THE FIRST PICTURE?
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

August 5, 2012
12:20 PM

Post #9230449

Its the plant with the straight up sword leaves! Someone gave it to me.

BajaBlue

BajaBlue
Rancho Santa Rita, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2012
12:33 PM

Post #9230467

Zinnias are native to Mexico, so sowing in heat
wont bother them.

The only thing is, right now we are in the canicula,
and traditionally, things shouldnt be planted now.

We have lived here 27 years and my observations
are the first "cooler"front usually gets here bt about
august 15

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2012
1:25 PM

Post #9230525

Sylvia, that plants looks like a type of Ginger, but not sure.
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

August 5, 2012
1:31 PM

Post #9230532

Thanks JO. I remember some one giving me a Ginger.

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