I bought about eight packets of seeds. All kinds and have maybe three of them sown. No container is safe in my house now. Plastic ones that is. I am trying things I usually buy as plants in the spring.
I have divided the poppies that were in my fridge for a week. Both varieties came with plenty of seeds and I just was itching to do the "milk bottle guardian" thing. so a few seeds for experiment.
I used plant stem supports to keep the bottles from rotateing in the wind and undoing the seeds.
I had read some material on Super Poppies and believe the "super" referrs to thicker petals and sturdier stems. My regular OP's bloom and then a day later petals are eithe blown off in the wind or they begin to shred. This might be common for regular Orientals ,prompting the hybredizing of sturdier versions.
Hazel: another note, I have several Oriental Poppies in milk jugs for winter sowing. I WS them Feb. 5th. I planted the following Oriental Poppies: Beauty of Livermore, Giant Red, Red, & Victoria Louise.
As of today, Feb. 29th, I have a few Sprouts of Beauty of Livermore and Victoria Louise.
I may do a few Deno method just to see if the other seeds are viable. However, the seeds are about 1 year old, so they should all sprout. Any comments?
Hubbie planted same seeds outside about the same time and none have sprouted outside.
I also planted Oriental Poppies outside last Spring, 2011. I did nothing to the area where I planted the seeds. I "think" I may have some Oriental Poppies that grew last year and hopefully will bloom this year. (fingers crossed).
Birder, I have never tried O/P seeds so I am not able to comment on the Do's and Don't. I got some of my O/P from Amanda at gracefulgardens.com. Selection is not that huge but her prices are great. Did get ( Super Poppy) two set of multiples from Heronswood and one from Jung Seed. The loner from Jung didn't bloom for me yet. I am hoping for some action this year. Good luck with the seed experiment. Mike
I started some oriental poppies from seeds this year---patty's plum and beauty of livermore. This was a first for me. I sowed them on top of regular potting soil, and placed them in a cold frame for one month. Then I moved them into my greenhouse, where about 50% have germinated so far. I keep my greenhouse at a minimum temp of 55, and it can get as warm as 90 on a sunny day. I have lots more seed sowing to do. I'm pretty much on schedule though. I start about 1500 plants from seed every year. Mostly annual flowers. Some veggies (onions are my favorite). And lots of perennials, too.
1500 plants in (3 and 1/2 inch containers.) My yard seems to swallow up all of those plants no problem. I start the seeds in cells in flats, and then transplant them into 3 and 1/2 inch containers when they have 4 true leaves. I have a 10 x 15 greenhouse and a smaller coldframe greenhouse. But both of those get extremely crowded. I can barely walk in the greenhouse right now, and most of the seedlings are still just in cells. But I enjoy the chaos. I start about 10-25 of each thing (i.e., 25 marigolds, etc). I'm a seed addict. I love getting a plant for pennies.
I can see how it would develop. If I had a greenhouse, other than my garage which I will be setting up with growlights in a week or so, I would go nuts also. I can't plant out til June 1 so don't want to start too early as the plants get pretty skinny.
My average last frost date is also late, around mid-May. I sometimes get into trouble putting things out a little early. But I'm getting better at figuring out what can really handle the frost and what can't from trial and error mainly. I used to do this all indoors---watering was difficult. The hose in the greenhouse has helped so much. I worry about my greenhouse eventually developing an infection or something. But nothing yet. There are some automatic vents to help with air circulation and my heater also has a fan. Probably my biggest expense now is paying for heat. My husband's jaw dropped a little with the January electric bill. But having these enormous bougainvilleas blooming in my sunroom right now (moved them inside the house) was worth the cost to heat it for me!! I overwintered them in the greenhouse before moving them inside (I recently ran out of space for them out there). Sorry----I totally went off topic there.
Back to poppies...second pic is Hungarian blue breadseed poppy. I really loved those last year.
I love your poppy. I have some like that. They run from dark like Lauren's Grape, to light like yours. Some are singles and some doubles. Oh, and one is black. It continues to amaze me. You are a zone 8b and mid May is your last freeze (more or less) date. Mine is supposed to be June 1, but I can usually get away for May 15th. And yet I am definitely a zone 5b. Some zone 5 stuff grows here and some doesn't. Like hellebores. I had them for two years and then they died. Can't keep Rose Campion alive for love nor money. And I really love it. Not sure if it is a temp problem or a soil/moisture problem. Maybe I could try winter sowing some. that might hardy them up.
I mentioned trying to heat my 3000 gallon fish pond one year and I could almost see the words forming on my husband's lips _ NFW!!! followed by "I want a divorce" followed by "I wonder if I could just throw you in the pond with the fish." lol We actually have quite a spike in our electric each winter from the deicers and the pump we leave in the pond to circulate water. I couldn never manage it all without him.
And my wife think I am crazy! LOL ! May-15 is our avg last frost date here in the Chicagoland area. I haven't started any indoor seeds yet. I have some daylily seedlings that I planted last year, but didn't have time to put them in the ground. Brought them back in for the winter. I am currently using a shelf that I set up some grow lights on in the basement. I would love to have a 12x12 or there about greenhouse. Can't wait to win the lottery. FUNNY!
Kosk, you have your hands full. If you have the energy and the help, by all means enjoy it. All my help are now grown and gone. Nice shot of the poppies. Mike
I resent that remark!! :) Naw. D thinks I am nutty also. But he humors me. I have no room for a greenhouse on my lot and thought that wintersowing might be the answer. So, do you think I jumped the gun putting seeds out when it is 20-35F. I have one of those portable four shelf things I got at Walmart for $49. Has a clear covering over it with a zip open front. I have to move it before the March winds come though. I am afraid it will get blown over even with the gallon jugs in the bottom shelves and flats on top.
I have given up on my grown daughter helping with gardening. At least I can pay her boyfriend(s) to help with the heavy stuff. So she is of some use.
Thanks! First pic are the bougainvilleas I went off-topic about...and which cost me a few hundred dollars in electricity to over-winter in my greenhouse. But worth it to me, ha ha. Now they are inside my house. They were happier in the greenhouse---dropping their blooms faster indoors, so I think they prefer a more humid environment (like Hawaii!)
OH gosh! I misunderstood you. I knew the first picture didn't look like poppies--but I thought maybe it was some kind of poppy I did not know about!! How silly of me. I see they are bougs. I kept one in my house over winter in very bright south sun, and it bloomed for me. They are dropping flowers probably because of a change in environment. Plants get so picky!
I have germinated roy al wedding and allegro this year using the WS technique. After germination I bring them in and put thyem under lights. They are thriving.
I also germinated peony flowered annuals both in the basement under lights and by wintersowing. The ones I germinated under lights were moved on up to 2 inch cell pacs then transplanted out into the garden this week. They are doing well.
Hey Mike and John, the tornado touched down to the west of us in Paulding county, about 50 miles away. However, the news showed the street which my subdivision is off of and an area called Shakerag, down to the street, and showed that we had circulation in our area, but it didn't touch down here thank God. We had the lightening, wind, and rain, but no damage. We spent about 45 minutes in the basement last night, and my DH couldn't believe I was worried about the plants and trees outside. My big concern was not only the tornado, but the debris flying about and the damage it would have caused to the garden. We've had tornado debris fall in our yard when we had bad storms several years ago, and have lost trees due to high winds in the past.
John, I'm glad that you and your family are safe. Annette
IDK about transplanting of the peony poppies, I'll let the experts answer that one. I did do some transplants last year from winter sowing, but they didn't do well.
BTW, did you notice the other poppy plant in my first post, can anyone tell me what type it is based on the leaves? I planted a flat of it from a local grower, they had single blooms and they were labeled Champagne mix. They've survived all winter here, even when we were below freezing for several days. It also appears that some of the plants have seed heads. I'll post a pic of this later.
Poppies have roots like carrots--so you have to dig alllll the way down to get the bottom of the root. You can move them--but they pout.
I WS poppies in milk jugs every year. They germinate and grow well. My biggest problem is getting them into the ground in between spring rains (mud) and then, getting them watered often enough after the spring rains quit--heat and humidity.
I started these in the basement under lights then moved them into flats (pic 3) Then finally out into the garden (pics 1 and 2) . The plants were harden off by putting them out under a tree each day extending the time they were out there until put out in the garden. They have survived 26 degree tem since being planted out. I think y ou could start the whole processe now and still have success.
John, thanks for clarifying that they are Iceland poppies. Ok poppy experts, what are these alien thingies???? They appear to be growing rapidly now since we've had some warmth. Are they buds, or seed pods? Some of these plants were blooming when I planted them this fall.
Annette---those are buds, and they will bloom for you in a day or two. Icelandic poppies tend to bloom for a very, very long time, so it makes sense that these same plants were just blooming for you in the fall--and that they are now going to bloom again for you. I agree---the foliage and the fact that they are behaving as a biennial or even perennial makes me agree that they are Icelandic poppies. Papaver nudicaule. Here is a pic of some of my IPs from last summer. I'm looking forward to a repeat performance from them.
kosk0025, thanks for the clarification that they are buds. I'll post some pictures when they bloom, I'm excited to see which colors are going to open. Thanks also for sharing the picture of your blooms.
I recieved seeds a few weeks ago.I put them in the fridge. I did the milk bottle thing about 10 days ago and then my second method a few days ago.I scrapped the ground of compost ,scratched the surface ,sprinkled seeds and covered with the screen held down by rocks.
Its still cold here I only use a few seeds from the paks I was sent.
I will sow the rest in April,meanwhile they are in the fridge.
ge1836: How long do you keep yours in the fridge before sowing?
I've got some annuals (and OP). I'm planning to WS about half of each variety & start all the others in flats under lights in the basement (back-up option). Hopefully it's not too late for WS in MN, we've had a crazy mild winter this year. Today is supposed to be about 60 and we're going to have temps in the 50s all week.
I have never sowed this way. The seeds need a "long cool" period. I usually sow in December.I have no idea how long a cold period they need.
I just figure between the fridg and in the cold outside until mid April it will be 4 or 6 weeks.
I had my seeds in the freezer for about 2 months, and then sowed some in pots and on the ground, they have all germinated except M. Lingholm so far. I want to sow a few more this weekend. I've never used the freezer method before, but the seeds seem to be fine.
I'm not sure but if you are keeping the seeds stored in the fridge or freezer, not actually mixed with damp seed starting medium then I don't think it is going to count that they were in there. Cool dry storage does not take the place of cold stratification. I do know areas with mild winters are recommended to sow poppies in fall. Where here where we have cold long winters late winter to very early spring is best. Some poppies will germinate without the cold but there are always ones with a built in dormancy that need that cold moist period to wake up.
Keeping my fingers crossed. These seeds were sent in late Feb. Too late for fall sowing. I am trying to keep birds off so they are covered with screen and stones .Its just an experiment.
If I get anything to germinate and grow I will save seeds and sow in the late fall as I have in past years.
Pirl and I tried a April sowing years ago but it didnt work. Warm weather came sooner than we thought.
I'm going to bag up seeds and put them in the refrig for a couple weeks. Our temps this week are in the low to mid 70s. I hope a few weeks of this process will help but if not, I'll see them next spring.
It's going to be very warm around here this week. Out of the next six days today (65°) will be the coldest. Chicagosouth Sub Z:5b. Might break a couple records this week. Good luck everyone with your seed sowing.
Joann I think this time of year is perfect for sowing poppies for you. I think the biggest problem with fall is the seeds are more likely to get eaten or washed away before they have a chance to germinate. Maybe with the milkjugs in placed they'd have a better chance.
I was going to sow some poppies to today and I can't find them! I have a drawer of seeds and I found every type poppy except the two I was looking for! It is going to be warm here too, but we had a foot of snow just a week and a half ago so it doesn't necessarily mean it will be too warm for the poppies. :) We could have snow next week.
Pirl, I think I'm just going to stick them in the refrig for a couple weeks while it's in the high 60s low 70s and when it turns chilly again I'll plant them. I planted some last spring that I ordered from ebay and they didn't germinate -well okay, maybe 10 flowers did. Not sure if the seeds were bad or I didn't chill them. I'm learning.
Pirl, if you need more poppy seeds I still have some left. Been sending them out right and left. Be glad to send you some.
Meredith, what colors/types were you looking for. I don't have bunches, but who knows? Maybe I have what you wanted.
Meredith: that makes sense. If my 2 methods work this year I will sow in early ( very early ) spring.
We have had 70 mph winde a few days last week and the jugs are still where I put them.
We will have 70* temps this week.Nothing else to do but measure how much the tulips have grown.
Thank you so much Oberon! That is very thoughtful of you! I should be ok with what I have. A nice DG member sent me some seeds of her Queen Poppies, which I've only seen available as plants. So I'd better keep searching through my seed drawer!
I would love to have some. I got my seed bucket out last night and I was thinking I had lots of poppy seeds but what I have is lots of columbine seeds. I have bunches of a tall yellow and a purple with green in the flower. NOID. I had one little packet from a trade. Hope my seeds scattered well last year.
I hate when I lose things. My seeds always go into an old metal milk box. It's lid wouldn't shut after my last order of zinnia.
I just received a late order (I was late, not them) from OSPS. Beautiful lavendar poppies. I forgot them send just a few, so I will have to wait til this fall to share seeds. Will plant them today. I have several small packets (more seeds by far than OSPS, but then I am not selling them) out side in my moveable 'greenhouse' for a nice cold snap before sending them on to others. I am now down to a small cache of seeds. It is kind of a good feeling to think of poppies growing down south that started from our seeds up here. It is a rather large project during the summer tagging the plants with thier color, then harvesting the plants and hanging them upside down in the garage. Daughter says I look like an opium lord. lol. Some are definitely more prolific like Laurn's grape. I hope to have a larger haul of some of the newer ones I planted last year from another DG'r.
Oberon. I have hopes for the seeds you sent late Feb. The ones in the photo are from Venus's I have been having luck with from OSPS in 2009. They are hardy and 100% germination. I will post photos of your Grape and Lavanders when they germinate.Maybe I will check milk jugs.I know its been warm for over 10 days. If I dont see anything I will just chalk it up to "not warm enough yet"
Thanks Pirl. I remember how enchanted you were with the poppies that grew in the JI gardens.
the ones I just received are Papaver Somniferum -Lavender Semi-Double and Lavender Feathers.
I am conducting an experiment. I planted the new seeds in a special sort of flat (pictures to follow) and set them out side. I have had some poppy seeds in plastic packets out in the cold for about a week. I have taken a sampling and planted them in a jug and put them under my aero garden grow lites to see if they will germinate. the soil is not as wet as it looks. Just spritzed the top
the top foam cellpack sits on a piece of materials that wicks water from the plastic flat. the cellpack sits on a foam piece that has 'pillars' which while in this state are upside down holding the cellpack up out of the water in the tray. When they are ready to transplant, you remove the cell, flip over the piece that has pillars on the other side and place under the cellpack. Each little pillar gently pushes the dirt and plant out of the cellpack in once piece. Need to water first (I keep forgetting) to make the dirt more cohesive so the plug holds together.
Well, if they don't for some reason produce, I have more seeds, not a lot , but can resend after freezing up here. Plus if the ones in my experiment germinate then I would think that just keeping them in the fridge in their little packets for a while would do the trick. Will let you know. gotta go do something productive now. At least from the perspective of my husband. :)
Oh hail Opium Lord! LOL! Am I the only one that want a piece of toast right now? See Oberon first of three pics above. (funny). Found snails in the O/P while cleaning up a little yesterday. Not thrilled. Expecting 80°f today. More outdoor cleanup. Washing out bird bath and refilling suet feeder for the downy woodpecker and reg feeder for the other flying friends. Daff, Crocus and Helebourous blooming here in zone 5. Still waiting on A/P germination.
Bad news and good news. Bad news first, I've got the flu, ewww!!!! ack!!!! LOL. Good news is I have poppy blooms that opened today. Yipeee!!! I needed something to cheer me up. Here are some pics, and I have a lot more stems with buds that are about to open. These were the plants that I planted from flats last fall that are finally blooming. Annette
Cem: sorry to hear you have the flu. It's a bad way to be. Thanks for sharing your poppy pics. Are those Iceland Poppies? Papaver nudicaule?
I have about three different kinds of poppies in my garden for the first time this year. I am not sure what kinds they are. The leaves all look a little different. So, I am really anxious to see which they are when they bloom.
I believe the bloom sequence is Iceland poppies, then annual poppies, then Oriental Poppies?
Just dashed in.I peered into the tops of the milkbottles and its full of teeeny greenies. Oberons poppies have germinated. I will leve the bottles alone until the plants are ready to thin.
I am so stoaked.
The poppies under the screen were planted many days later so no germination yet.
Ok, I have a " Poppies for Idiots" question. I know that everyone has talked about saving seeds. However, me being the optimist that I am, I want to think that although these plants may die down in the heat of summer, that they'll come back from the roots? I know nada about these Iceland poppies, so please help me understand.
I've got the seeds from OSPS that never got winter sown, so I'll just save them in the freezer to keep them fresh to broadcast or winter sow this winter. The few seeds that I did sow a few weeks ago do have their true leaves, so they're coming along nicely in the pots, and some in the the ground by shadier side of the house.
If they are perennial then obviouly they will return. Or if they just sort of scatter their seeds, then you will have poppies, just not from the same plant which dies over winter. Orientals are the exception coming back from their own roots. I am no expert either, but for me to have poppies I have to save the seeds on most all of them. Of course, being in Georgia perhaps you are figureing they won't die due to cold. I would think that annual type poppies have internal clocks just like dahlias which know when to start growning according to their kind even if in a paperbag in the basement. The poppies know what their life cycle is -- finis.
And that is from one 'poppy idiot' to another, if I may be so bold as to say. I could be all wet. Hopefully some of our more erudite gardeners can fill us both in.
At 2AM I would think so! Good grief. I checked my inside stuff and I have one delph from New Zealand germinated - Yayyy! Hope there are many more. Red Climber is still a no go, but hope it's stint outside didn't kill the seed. Don't think so as the peas just germinated. It will be interesting to see the difference between things I WS and then also planted indoors. A controlled test. sort of
My garden helper cleaned where I had little poppy extras. When I sowed the seeds went quite wide. I put the bottle over the biggest bunch. Good thing I left the bottles in place. Garden helper raked the margins and I doubt those will survive. I might remove the bottle soon.I am worries it will get too hot in there where the rest of the greenie weenies are. Dont want to cook them.
Birder17, that was a very informative article by Tom Fischer. My fav quote "Those immense, crinkled, silky flowers, with their blood-colored petals and mysterious, coal-black centers, bypass the frontal lobes and aim straight for the groin. To see them is to want them". I must say that I have never heard of most of the ones he mentioned. Mike
I just checked up the post and March 7 was when O sowed the last poppies under screen held down with stones.
I had planned to sow in April but forgot about cold startification which someone reminded me of so I sowed in March hopeing there would be enough cold time before the warm temps came and they either germinated or didnt, depending on how long a stratification period they needed.If they were in cold strata a weeeek thats being generous. Temps went into the 70's for the past 2 weeks and sure enough all sowen poppies germinated. The ones in the bottles germed first. I removed the bottles and they are happy.
Bottle babies sown Feb 28 pix 1
Sown under screen Mar 7 pix 2
Okay, now I understand. You basically planted them in the ground and covered them with the top of a milk jug. Maybe, I will try that next year. It's too late this year. I have plenty of babies in the jugs--but getting them from the jugs to the garden is quite difficult for me. It's either too much rain, hail, or too hot. Right now, we're having a thunderstorm.
Thanks for explaining your sowing method.
More poppy blooms from my garden. The second and third blooms are in pots that I removed the daffodils, and pansies, and replaced them with summer annuals. I did mess with the poppy roots, but I watered the pots well, and they still bloomed today. I also removed some of the poppies from the pots and planted them in the garden. We'll see how they'll do. The other 2 blooms are from plants that have been planted in the garden since last fall.
This bloom is a surprise, as I noted that it's trying to be a double. It's one of the plants in the pot that I messed with the roots as I was planting the annuals, and for now it seems to be ok. None of the other blooms on the other plants have looked like this.
Thanks kosk and ge. The colombines were from my winter sowing in 2011, blooming for the first time this year, and the plant in front of that is a salvia. Everything here is growing well, due to our unusually warm spring, and now we've had to start turning on the sprinkler, and we finally had some rain this week.
That is the same with my columbines---I started them all from seed in 2011--I have 20 or so----they were a McCana Giants mix. This will be their first year to bloom, so I am EXTREMELY excited to see what colors they will be!!!!! Maybe in a month. But unlike the rest of the country, the west coast is having a ridiculously cold and wet spring, so we are way behind. (Daffodils look great right now, and those usually bloom late Feb/early March).
I have one of those too. Don't know what it is called. Frustrates me as I try to have the correct name in my database for all my flowers and plants. I got some new seeds WSing for columbine. Guess I will have to wait a year to see them bloom.
I do have a question about southern gardens. Last summer, we took a trip to Alabama in late June. We went to the Huntsville botanical garden, which we enjoyed very much. But I was confused---almost everything was done blooming (even the hydrangeas!) except for some annuals. So I guess my question is---what sustains southern gardens July-October in terms of color? Or is everything brown then? My bland garden months are nov, dec, Jan...is it just the opposite in the south? Genuinely curious, bc I was sort of disappointed how everything seemed done in Northern Alabama by late June.
It gets really hot in the south in the summer time with temps in the 90's up to 105, for weeks on end. We're also just coming out of a 5yr. drout, I hope, which didn't help us much with summer blooms. What I do have blooming around that time are daylilies, lilies and hardy hibiscus, including Texas star, and of course lots of roses. Also, thanks to the recommendations in the clematis forum, I cut my clematis back by 1/3 after their initial blooming, and got a second flush of blooms during the summer.
I have three different kinds of columbines started from winter sowing this year. Aqulegia caerulea (light blue and white), Aqulegia caerulea 'McKenna's Giants' and Aqulegia caerulea Deep Purple (DG seed). I am excited they are growing nicely and am anxious to see them bloom next year----if I can get them to maturity. Summers are tough for seedlings. It's so rewarding to see the flowers you started from seed blooming in all their glory.
Garden flowers in Al are quite cheerful.
My poppies are growing, growing, growing. Since yours are blooming now, I am assuming mine will bloom in May. I spent a big chunk of today pulling weeds...again.:( I hope to get some mulch down this weekend. I need to thin my annual poppies some more. I've thinned them twice, but there are still too many.
Tulips are pretty much through. Iris and Alliums are starting to bloom.
I have (had) lots of columbine but they are really plagued by leaf miners (little green worms) and the leaves and branches curl terribly (not from the worms) and the blooms are crumply. It has gone on for several years and I am about ready to dig them up and pitch them. I have the Barlow series, some giants, Winkie series, um. I think that is all. Just love them but something maybe in my soil is just making them yukky. They don't die though.
Oh, the plants grow and spread also. I don't think they are good candidates for swaps because I cannot identify what is wrong and no way would I want to send sick plants. Even if I suspect it is my soil (in four different locations) not the plant itself.
Yes, I have the Clementines also. Went nuts one year and ordered a bunch of the shorter guys. Also taller Tower White and Ruby something or other. Slept in and my mind is still foggy. Oh, yeah and Tequila Sunrise. The tall ones are fine (with exception of Tower White and Ruby) only the shorter ones are affected. And none of my other plants so it is particular to Barlow, Clementine columbine. Very strange.
Celene, what is IGR - I know I am going to hate myself when you tell me because I should already know. I can stand the little worms, but the curly gnarly stems and plants really disturbs me. I have thought about digging up each plant and thoroughly washing it, roots and all then replanting in fresh soil from the nursery
Insect Growth Regulator. I dislike them in general, because of what they do to beneficial insects, so I use them on a very limited basis when nothing else works. I use Imidocloprid or Spinosyn if I can get it.
Oberon" Imidicloprid is in ALL Bayer producte. I use Bayer Advance Tree and Shrub to drench my Iris and emerging lilies in early spring.
I keep the Red Lily Beetle in check this way,also iris borer.
I will try it on columbine miners this year.
Oh. And I use Bayer products to try to control leaf rollers up here. You need to drench the soil early on as once they have hatched and rolled up in a left they are about impossible to get rid of. Wont' kill the bush or tree but surely is not good for them. But I will try the very early drenching on my columbine and see if that helps. We are 'blessed' with very few predators up here the ones affecting my columbine being one, slugs and stuff eating my caragena hedge to little twigs being the other. Oh and fungus. Enough to keep me busy
I'l go out in the garage and check. I know I have some left from last year. Bought a couple of gallons of the stuff for the leaf curlers. I just checked and I found tulips coming up out of the ice and mud on one of the early spots that melts off. Maybe there is hope for us yet.
Oh, the creeping phlox and arabis usually provide early flowers. Also some short dianthus. I will send a pic taken last April. And yes it is depressing until you start seeing stuff like the hardy little tulips coming up despite the ice and and snow. This year I am keeping my big feet out of the garden areas though until the snow is gone and I can see what I am trampling on my way to see a little green pip 15 feet back by the fence where the sun has reflected off the boards and melted a spot.
Cem9165, love the pics of your early start to the bloom season. My Calla's are still in the basement. DW can't wait for me to get all that "crap" out of her basement! LOL!! Weeds are one thing, when you start adding all the various critters and what have you, it really becomes frustrating at times. But, we keep going on because we are addicted !
Thanks Mike. The DH was ready to get his garage bay back, and was quite thankful when I took all the plants out. He knows the basement is a lost cause, and dares not aggravate me about getting the plants out.
We woke up to 37* temps this morning, with frost warnings, I thought I was in Alaska with Mary. It freaked me out, since we've been in 70-80's the last three weeks.The crazy weather is driving me nuts!!!! I'm glad we don't have any snow and ice here. Hang in everyone, the warm weather is around the corner, I hope.
I am beginning to be glad I am here. At least the weather is consistent. A nice slow steady climb. Supposed to be in the mid 40's next week (daytime). Stuff is growing almost before it is out of the snow as if it knows that it better get going to beat the next round of winter snows. arghhhh. bite my tongue.
I'm glad your plants are starting to make their spring debut. It's amazing once they start going how quickly they grow. The plants change daily here, I feel like I'm missing something if I don't do a daily garden tour.
I know what you mean. I found a daffodil coming up within 2-3" of a snow berm. Almost crushed it. I really need to stay out of the bedding areas but it is kind of hard to see where the paths are. I think it is so obvious in the fall and then poof -- it's all one big whiteout. Saw a goldfish swimming in my pond today. Hope the rest come out soon. I guess that is my real marker for the beginning of spring here. I got my order of lilies including a bonus. Only ordered 3 kinds, 3 bulbs each. Will pot them up as one is already 4" tall in the bag.
We had frost warning for last night.Its still dark so I cant see if we really got some.
I cant go into the gardens any more.Too many emerging plants. Its frustrating to know the lilies that hadnt emerged 2 weeks ago when we had 3 frosts,have come up and will get hit.
Poppies are doing great.
I can't imagine how stressful it must be having so much up and growing and the threat of frost biting them. Up here it seems like by the middle end of May we are done with it. I am tempted to push it a little as my garden in the garage is getting outrageous to say nothing of the dining room table. Having to dig up 25' x 36" of lawn will slow me up though. LOL. At least I can start that early. Might even help of the ground is frozen down there to skim just the sod off the top. Damien is determined he wants to put up the fancy concrete block border around it but I don't want any more. I have two beds like that and it is starting to look like a darned rock quarry. To say nothing of darned expensive. I shouldn't complain as he seems more and more generous toward my gardening. But what if the people who someday buy our house don't want a rock garden in the front yard?? Oh well. It's my yard now so we will do what makes us happy. And more flowers makes me very happy
So the seeds did okay for you?? Mine are still hibernating in the WS greenhouse. It's odd because the seeds from OSPS have started to germinate slowly. Guess I just have to be patient. Yeah, like that's going to happen. I am 'talking' to my son in Afghanistan in between DG posts. Kind of fun. He goes home to Hawaii for his mid tour break in June.
My GS is enlisting this fall. He is having trouble with the ASVAB.
I have lots of stuff germinating in the garage: hollyhock, Rose of Sharon, dahlias, lilies, lisianthus (hm, must be wrong spelling). Shoveled more snow today. Am determined to find the two beds out front. Well, I have one little corner of one uncovered but the other is way out there.
Here's the orange/melon colored poppy. Some of the blooms are more full than others. I wondered what was going on when I saw how big the buds were before they broke out of their capsule. Now I know these gorgeous blooms were on the way.
I went to the same nursery that I had gotten these from last fall, and she shared with me that they also had Oriental poppies last fall. I'm going to see if I can get some of them this year. I've been very happy with the Icelandic poppies this spring. Annette
Thanks Jo Ann and Arlene. You all should be warming up real soon. We're having unseasonable warm weather here, and back into the 80's daily for the next week. It's no fun working in the garden in those temps.
Gorgeous, Annette! My poppies are still at seedling stage. I seed saved all of my Hungarian blue bread poppy seed and scattered it in the ditch across the road 2 days ago, along with a couple different CA poppies and a hummingbird seed mix from John Scheepers. Cross your fingers for the ditch (which I do not own). Flowers are better than blackberry brambles, I figure. (blackberries are considered noxious weeds around here, very invasive. Even though they produce yummy berries).
I love them all. I think poppies are my very favorite plant. I do love peonies and lilies, but poppies are so fool proof, they create their own new colors and textures each year. I guess I will have to give up trying to name them all. I do try to separate the seeds though so I don't lose any one color or texture
Yes, poppies are one of my favorites also. I give them two of my gardens. I anticipate them all winter and early spring waiting for them to bloom and so curious to see what fun and exciting colors will show up. Last year, I had soft pink singles with lavender eyes. This year, I don't have any. I think it's interesting that I have had the lilac peony poppy seed my mom gave me twenty years ago, and they turn into all these colors. I had not seen the lilac peony poppy for years and now, this year, I have a couple of them. So interesting. I had a bright red double a couple of days ago, and I missed getting a picture. I think the blue-green leaves are a gorgeous backdrop for the colorful flowers.
After the poppies go to seed, I pull them out and plant other stuff. There's also perennials in the beds, but the poppies take the best of show at this time of year!
BTW, the goldfinch love, love, love the poppy seed. I get on the ground what shakes off of the plants when the birds lite on the plants!
Thanks. I am starting to learn how to load pictures on this website.
I agree, ge, with the full picture of a plant. I love the close up pictures of flowers. However, when I am trying to determine what a plant looks like before I buy one--a picture of the entire plant tells me more about the plant.
I have bought plants online and fell in love with the flower, didn't closely read the narrative or the narrative wasn't quite complete. Then I get a plant that is tall and stringy with tiny little flowers that they took a real closeup of. I have a knautia like that although I have come to really like it. Bushy at bottom with tall wavy stems and tons of little deep red flowers.
I always check PF to see if someone has images of the plant in their garden. I also like threads that deal with long views of gardens. Its disappointing to get a plant based on the single flower and find out its either invasive or too short or too tall and doesnt have a nice bushy clump when you wanted something that shape.
My GF's are amazed at the gardens. My reply is " There is more to gardening than just sticking plants in the ground"
I love PF for the same reasons, Jo Ann. Seeing the established plant, as well as close-up shots, gives us a better idea how it will look in our own gardens.
People who don't garden just don't "get it". They have no idea how much time we spend studying first, then buying. It doesn't work well in reverse! I'm personally a bit ticked when people comment about the hours I put in the garden and then will say, "...but you love it". I do love it but a little praise goes a long way. A mother may love cooking for a bunch of children but she won't turn down dinner out.
You know how much angst I over do when poppies germinate early. I dont know why I dont remember a day like this when I am thinning them out of everywhere. TON's of Nice Reds( my label) and everything else. I might just have a decent crop of Larkspur too.
I was going through "GE angst" for quite awhile as I waited for the poppies to emerge but at last it happened and every time I go out, amidst the rain drops, I find more and more of them. Thanks for all your inspiration, Jo Ann.
Mike: The picture of the blue flowers are Larkspur. The "support" you are seeing are the tomato cages at the bottom of the hill!! My tomato cages are ten feet tall and the tomato vines still crawl out of the cages! We grow heirlooms every year.
I'll have to take a picture of my larkspur tomorrow. It's too dark tonight.
Poppies here are pretty much done. Now, I have the big "balls". Soon, the Goldfinch will be in there eating the seed. Thanks Pirl, for your comment about my Goldfinch picture. They are fun to watch.
Right now, I have a coon that keeps getting into my window boxes on my deck and digging out the plants. I plant them in the morning, and he digs them out at night. It's a game I don't really like to play. We have already caught two coons in the past two weeks. Grrrrr.
Pirl: I have people who come to the house for one reason or another and tell me how pretty my yard is. I tell them it's taken 20 years to get it to look like this. I must say, I do enjoy working in my yard. I don't feel like it's working.
I would be out there more if this ole' bod would let me! I haven't been used the computer or out in the garden much as I have had sciatic nerve troubles this past few weeks. Trouble is, I don't know what I did to cause the problem. I also have to watch how much sun I get as I get "sun sick".
There's nothing more pleasurable to me than to walk out into my garden. The sights, sounds, and smells are pretty stupendous! It's a big pay off for all of the time, sweat, and energy one puts into making a garden. Right now, I have soooo many flowers I have potted up from winter sowing, I could almost start a garden center myself! I am giving them away. I sent around 40 or more plants home with my brother today.
We had new decking steps leading to the living room French doors installed last year. The raccoon had his little hideout under the old decking and I figured he wouldn't return but he did. Now I'm grateful he's not attacking our window boxes, so thanks Birder!
Same here - 20 years to have it looking like I want.
Sciatica has visited me a few times, too. Try low heat on the area and see if it helps you.
I agree with your last paragraph. The "work" is always worth it. There are times when I'm working and look up and around and can't believe the beauty around me or the fact that this was all grass 21 years ago when we bought the house.
Same landscape here too Birder
Dairy farm on clay and rocks. It took me 2 years before I figured out it was best to dig in early spring or fall.Its like cement.
I amended with potting mix and compost and anything I could get my hands on, that first planting year.Now we spread compost in the fall,its an easy way to keep weeds out and fert. at the same time.
So, ge, you just spread the compost on like one would spread mulch? I had not thought of doing that. We have a big pile of compost. It never gets completely "soil" as we keep using it when we amend the soil as we plant flowers.
We have a black compost box beside the deck.It gets household stuff.
The box doesnt produce enough compost to cover gardens in fall so I get a load from the town.We just use it when we plant new plants .
I used to use mulch but the town chipper isnt all that great and in a couple of years after spreading mulch I was left with big wood chunks and sticks. Last fall I used Leafcompost. It degenerates almost completely.
Do not put mulch or compost where you want to sow poppies or other plants. The seeds need contact with the bare ground.
I get my mulch and compost from a local company here by the 1/2 yard which is just enough for my little truck. I am way behind on my mulching as I do not want to put a load on it until it is fixed after a collision I had recently. A young lady tried to beat a red light and I lost.
I have been thinking abou t how to get pictures of the full size of a plant without losing the details of the bloom. I have looked around locally for an educational course. But have had no success finding one. it is pretty hit or miss for me
ge1836: Sorry to go back so far on this post, but I have been away from my computer for awhile. You mentioned you get a "load of compost from town" in the fall. Could you go into a little more detail about that? Do you buy it from someone? I don't know of anyone that sells compost by the truck load. I have only seen it in bags-expensive.
Oberon: I just returned from beautiful Anchorage, Alaska yesterday. We were there June 2nd and 3rd. I thought of you often while there. I saw the lovely lupines growing along side the road. So pretty.
I so understand now the delay of your spring. You are about two months behind me! I have a new, huge respect for you growing flowers in your state!
Well thank you. We each have our own pluses and minuses. when it hits 67 I am too warm. How would I ever live in Missouri? Hope you had a good time here. Hopefully it was a nice few days not the overclouded days we have so often.
birder17: I live in a suburban town that has regular leaf and garden debris pick up by the highway department.
The stuff gets sorted and piled at the town property.
Residents can go and pick up composted leafmold free or have someone haul a trailer load for $50.00 the load is about 5 yards,you can get smaller amounts if you want them,the price is the same.
The guy with the trailer works for the highway department.
I get compost in really late summer or early fall because its last years leaves and well rotted.
We loose foliage in October and leaves collected then would be fresh.
I had never spread composted leaves before but I anm a convert. They disolve completely all winter instead of mulch which contains large pieces of wood that lays in the soil for years.
Plants are huge this year poppies are going out but all plants had more blooms than I would believe.
The plants that are shorter this year are Lilies and Astilbes,they emerged in mid March when we had 2 weeks of temps in the 80's and then froze in April .The garden wont disapoint me tho.
I would be afraid to put the leaves over my iris, the German kind. They are so susceptible to rot here. I have found that just covering with maybe an inch of dirt through the winter and uncovering fast in the spring seems to do the trick - sometimes. A real crap shoot. But I just love them. Maybe even more than peonies because the iris are such a challenge to keep.
In our suburb we have fall leaf pick up,no bonfires or burning leaves is allowed.
The highway department takes the leaves to their yard and piles them. There they stay all winter, until they are partly disolved.
In spring or later that summer into fall the highway dept. opens the area for residents to come and take as much composted leaves as they want. OR you can hire a guy to bring a kart load to your house for fifty bucks.The kart holds 5 yards.
ge: Ah, yes, yes, we burn our leaves. We're so conscientious!! You have a beautiful, cool, pleasant, fall day, and you go out on your deck to have a cup of coffee, and then, you start smelling burning leaves!! Ack! Ugh!
I could "suggest", but I seriously doubt the city would listen to me. Plus, I am sure there's an investment in picking up the leaves, having a "place" to put them all winter, and running them through a chipper. And, all cities seem to be low on money these days.
We also have a lot of neatly clipped large lawns. Well, I am not even going to "go there"!
Thanks for the info. I am sure you consider yourself lucky!
Here burning leaves has been banned from the 60's. We have town pick up and free drop off of brush/leaves/garden debris for about two months. We do pay for the mulch after the first free 500 pounds, and a minor charge for chipped trees, no charge for unscreened chips.
I think most places don't allow leaf burning - we are allowed to burn "brush" only. However that does not stop people from doing it! The smell of burning leaves is gagging. I got horrible poison ivy when I was a child that puffed my face out beyond recognition, due to someone burning it.