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Mid-Atlantic Gardening: Holiday Cactus General Discussion Part #5

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 23, 2012
11:51 AM

Post #9017239

We came from here http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1232158/

I thought it was time to move in the event someone is still on dial up. We have been busy discussing our Holiday Cactus and I must admit we have gone off topic a few times when the regulars had questions about other plants, soils, etc. This is fine with me as long as you have tried the other forums available for the particular plants/problems you want to talk about. Lengthy discussions about other subjects may just turn off the people who really only care about discussing the Holiday Cactus. No one will be turned away without first us trying to help you, so don't hesitate to at least ask your question.

Dave's Garden has so many wonderful members who have so much to share. If we all work together and share our information, think how happy our plants will be. :0

Welcome and enjoy your visit. And, please come back again.




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coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 23, 2012
2:45 PM

Post #9017442

Here are some useful links and info on Holiday Cactus

Our Holiday Cactus Forum Continues to grow. Below are links to our first 4 threads.
Part 1
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1146809/#new
Part 2
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1150081/#new
Part 3
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1227023/#top
Part 4
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1232158/#new
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What is a Holiday Cactus?

There are three main types of Holiday cactus: Christmas, Thanksgiving and Easter. All are called Holiday Cacti but each is slightly different in its parentage, form, flower, bloom time and cultural requirements. Schlumbergera and Zygocactus are one and the same. Breeders from Australia and Canada call them Zygocactus. In the threads here we also call them "schlums", "zygos" or just "cc "s . We also chat about their close relatives, epiphyllums or "epis" for short and other houseplants we love and propagate as for most of us "cc"s are houseplants that spend the summer outdoors.

Identification:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/3472/

"Recognition and Culture of the Holiday Cacti" by Paul Brunelle
http://cactus.biology.dal.ca/paulS/christmas/christmas.html

"Will the Real CC Please Stand Up?"
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/392/

comparison of leaves
http://cactusepiphytes.pagesperso-orange.fr/z_page_les_cactu...

zygo or schlumbergera?
--http://davesgarden.com/guides/terms/go/2368/
http://happyhobbyhabit.blogspot.com/2010/01/schlumbergera-se...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlumbergera


Books:

-Zygocactus (Schlumbergera) A Comprehensive and Practical Guide by Mark Cobia
-http://www.amazon.com/Christmas-Cacti-Schlumbergera-Succulent-Research/dp/0951723472/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325856888&sr=8-1

--Christmas Cactus - The Genus Schlumbergera And Its Hybrids by A. J. S. McMillan and J. F. Horobin. http://www.amazon.com/Christmas-Cacti-Schlumbergera-Succulen...

-Epiphyllum and Epiphyllum 2 by Frank Supplie
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&...
--Easter Cactus http://cactus-epiphytes.eu/z_page_les_cactus_de_paques_1.htm

Care/Growing of Thanksgiving/Christmas Cactus
http://mattslandscape.com/schlumbergera_growing/

Care/Growing of Easter Cactus
http://mattslandscape.com/rhipsalidopsis_info/

Articles on CC:
http://cactiguide.com/growcacti/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/381/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/3472/

http://allthingsplants.com/articles/view/SongofJoy/177/All-a...

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1988-12-10/business/0090...

http://plantsarethestrangestpeople.blogspot.com/2010/08/teas...


Getting CC to bloom:

http:// http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/Indoor/how-to-make-a-christm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlumbergera

http://happyhobbyhabit.blogspot.com/2010/01/schlumbergera-se...

http://www.schlumbergera.org/index.php?cid=81

http://www.rainyside.com/archives/BreedingXmasCactus.html

Pruning and repotting:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/799211/

Propagation

Growing from seed:

http://happyhobbyhabit.blogspot.com/2010/01/schlumbergera-se..
http://gardening.stackexchange.com/questions/2649/
can-i-make-my-schlumbergera-truncata-thanksgiving-cactus-produce-seeds.

Helpful Sites

http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/contents.htm
http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/houseplnts/hpcntnts.htm
http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/houseplnts/xmascctus.htm

Commercial Production:

http://www.ag.auburn.edu/hort/landscape/Hcactus.htm
http://extension.umass.edu/floriculture/fact-sheets/commerci...
http://mrec.ifas.ufl.edu/foliage/folnotes/holiday.htm

Societies:

The Cactus and Succulent Society of America http://www.cssainc.org/index.php?Itemid=212&id=213&option=co...

Sources of plants:
http://www.mattslandscape.com/schlumbergera/

video:
http://www.stereo.org.ua/2010/schlumbergera-flower-explodes/

http://mattslandscape.com/schlumbergera_growing/

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coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 23, 2012
2:47 PM

Post #9017445

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 23, 2012
3:29 PM

Post #9017484

coleup...you are an angel, thanks so much. I was wondering if you would continue that info. I think this is a good little thread and it is people like you that make it great. Thanks again. JB

I can not believe that after four almost five years, I finally learned how to move a thread. But, that is as far as I go. LOL.

Time for dessert. Hugs to all you cactus crazies.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 23, 2012
4:29 PM

Post #9017548

JB---

Just to answer your question on "Apricot" or "Salmon" color CC's--to me they are interchangeable.

The close-up of my Salmon/Apricot CC is at the very top of the Post#4 we just left.
To save you the time--here are some pictures of it.

Gita

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Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

February 23, 2012
5:56 PM

Post #9017645

I made the move! yea

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 24, 2012
5:54 AM

Post #9018055

Gita that is a beautiful color and a beautiful flower. In fact, I think it is the prettiest of all the colors. Then I am more of the what I call Fall colors than I am the pinks and whites. I just love that plant. I do hope the cuttings you gave me continue to grow and bloom the way yours does. You have some of the most beautiful plants I have ever seen. Thank you so much for sharing those. You must have the perfect location for them in your house.

Are there anymore salmon flowers out there. Don't you love that little piink tip on the end of the (what is that part called? I am having a senior moment.) Anyhow, now I have to go look that up. Oh Crap. See you all later. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 24, 2012
6:29 AM

Post #9018102

JB--

I have many a small cutting rooted of this CC. I cut the whole plant back after it bloomed
and am rooting many of the ends. Of course--I sent you some too.
I hope they grow well for you. This CC outshines all the others as the growth is more
upright and very strong. You can see that in the 3rd picture above.

I do not know the variety name of this one--nor do I remember where I bought it.

I know I will bring some to Holly's Swap. Gita

Would you like some cuttings from my Swedish Ivy?

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Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

February 24, 2012
7:30 AM

Post #9018163

Beautiful swedish ivy there GIta. Isn't that one also called Creeping Charlie? I use to have a large one but lost it to a cold snap.

I hope I don't get in trouble for going a little off topic, but it does concern a 'swap', lol If anyone is interested in joining my St. Patricks Day swap, here is the link:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1243603/

I need to get on the stick and water the plants I have overwintering in the house. My cc's just seem to be 'setting there', sometimes putting out a new leaf or two. I hope this is normal. They are still in the little plastic pots I bought them in a year ago, but am afraid to transplant them to a larger one.

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 24, 2012
8:46 AM

Post #9018255

Crit- appreciate the invite- one of these years may be our year to just take of and wander LOL

Re the picture loading problem. It seems if your pictures are too "big" you may have problems. I had the same bombing out last night. By just doing two pics I got through. (Really frustrating to lose a post though)
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 24, 2012
9:53 AM

Post #9018336

Just found this thread on pruning a cc after blooming . and what to do with a huge plant that leans and needs repotting.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/799211/

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 24, 2012
11:34 AM

Post #9018446

Crit do not worry about getting into trouble for announcing something everyone may be interested in.
I wish I had the time I would love to learn more about the swaps. It sounds like it could be fun. One of these days I will take the time to learn and then hopefully have something to swap. Thanks for sharing that.
Cole, great information as always. Thanks to you too.
Gita, that is a lovely plant but I have no place to put it at this time. Thanks anyhow. I just love your cuttings you send and will recommend your plants to anyone. I wish I could keep mine nice and green as you do but in the greenhouse it is not possible. I wish I could control the sun and the heat better than I do now. Mine look pale and yet nothing is wrong with them, they will come back once they are in an environment they like without the bright sun.
It is raining here off and on but the temperature was to be warmer and I think it is cooler. Gosh darn weather. I turned up the heat in the house to 71 because the birds seemed chilly. I had it down to 69 and with no sunshine it is chilly.
I am looking for a sketch of a CC with the parts identified. I have a few but they do not have all the parts identified. Anyone know where I can get one. Cole...how about you? I am searching but can not seem to find what I am looking for. Later, JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 24, 2012
2:38 PM

Post #9018625

JB----

If your plants are getting "pale' in your G-House it is, most likely, because they are getting
too much light. .Do you use a shade cloth over your G-House? That may help.
Many plants blanch out in too much sun...or "burn"--as in CC and Aloes. These are ALL
Jungle cactus--used to the shade of the high tree canopies. Direct sun will burn/kill them!
In the long run--it will not, really, hurt them. They just don't like it...and show it in many ways...

I have NO special places for my plants to spend the winter. They are scattered all over thew house--
by the windows and on shelves and on TV trays. Some send the winter under my seed lights.
These do the best...By now--my seed light shelves are totally full of cuttings. Need to start
finding other places for them all. WHERE--OH--WHERE?????? My dilemma this time of year.

Just today--I went outside to un-pot my Brazilian Plume Flower and all the cuttings growing in the same pot
that I took of it last fall. I cut it back--and, on a whim, stuck all the cuttings in the same pot along the rim.
Well--they all rooted--and I learned a thing or two..This plant likes to be cut back!!!!
Then--all the cut back stems can be rooted..And--they all did!!!!
Re-potted them all--including Mama--and now have 10 more pots to share of this plant at the Swap at Holly's.

And so it goes here...I have NO G-House--but I manage to make all my plants "happy".
Maybe less is more???? They all make it through the winter months and do well in the next year.
Believe me--I DO NOT do anything special. Actually--you could say I ignore my plants...even in watering...
Hence--the "Less is more" philosophy.
I have NO magic things I do to make my plants grow well. They just all do!

Thank you JB for your kind comments about my plants. Don't know what I can say why they all are OK at all times????

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 24, 2012
3:32 PM

Post #9018701

Gita, Yes I use a shade cloth and it is going to go up this weekend. Usually I do not have to use it in the winter, but this winter has been so sunny I can not keep them happy. Most of them are on lower shelves but they still get some sun and with this weather, too much water, I am sure. Must go and get ready for bed. I have to eat my Italian Ice and finish my wine. LOL... love you all. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 24, 2012
4:41 PM

Post #9018790

JB---

On our visit to Jill's favorite Garden center--after the Seed Swap--I could not fail but notice that
all their out-of-bloom CC were sitting on the ground under the G-House tables.
Would this information help you????

Maybe they just like less light????? What do you think????

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 25, 2012
8:54 AM

Post #9019429

I have CC in places no one should have them. LOL I am just running out of space. My own stupid fault. Later. JB
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 25, 2012
10:04 AM

Post #9019498

Hugs to you JB! Like so many others I equate having a greenhouse with being able to grow any and all plants well and propagate them to my hearts content...my own year round garden of eden, lush, relaxing, refreshing, limited only by my ability to acquire my starter or mother plants, with so much abundance that I would have plenty to share or a hobby business to indulge in...veggie starts, all of the annuals I'd ever want, tropicals, over wintering tender plants and on and on...

Secretly, I want to live in a greenhouse! ( Or, failing that undeneathe a blooming old fashioned lilac in a bed of lily of the valley, or amongst ancient moss covered rocks and ferns when the eastern woodland spring ephemerals bloom...or...) So, being short on funds but long on dreams, I sought and found work with small local growerers and lived/worked in their greenhouses. Learned lots and had much fun because I was not the one in charge/responsible for all of the fine tuning and daily decisions that mix together to spell thrive, survive or"unsaleable" for the resident plants. I was like their grandparent, I could go home and not have to do the day to day year in year out nurture!

So, I applaud you JB!

And, Gita, I know one of the secrets to your success with your indoor plants . I believe they are "happy" because you play
Barry Manilow albums for them!!!

Good weekend all. Judy

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 25, 2012
10:51 AM

Post #9019534

coleup---

In your 1st paragraph you are describing MY house to a "T".

In your 2nd Paragraph--you are describing my work history. Strange that we have had parallel work lives...

In your last sentence--you are WRRROONNNGGGG!!!! I hate Barry Manilow!
My music preferences span many countries and languages. Hardly anything from the USA.
well--maybe Christmas CD's...
I have beautiful, meaningful CD's with amazing music on them from Latvia.
My plants would not benefit from those, though...They would not understand the words...:o)

I just repotted the Brazilian Plume babies. Now I have 10 more pots to find a place for.
I also just potted up Ruby's Purple Passion plant. I cut back the plant I bought for her. Four more pots!!!

***doing an experiment here...It may just work!!! Trying to root all the leaves I removed from the
lower part of the stems. Believe it or not--they are perking up (rooting???).
Wouldn't it be amazing if they all grew? Ruby would have about 12 more PP plants!!! *****

I also took cuttings from a rambling Swedish Ivy pot (to have it grow bushier)--and that is 5 more 4" pots.
Bought 3 pots of beautiful Primroses at the Mars Grocery store. 3/$5. Amazing!
Two of the 3 pots have two different colored Primroses in it. Will divide those when I plant them out.
Have them on my DR table for now---...Only spot I could find.
It is too cold & windy outside to have them stay out there--even though they did last night. I forgot...

Then--the whole seed growing thing is starting to venture into my pea brain...AAARRRGGGHHHH...
Of course--those trays will have priority on the light set-up. Then what do I do with all the stuff on it now?????
Whaaaaa...Whaaaaaaa...Put me into a straight jacket!

JB--See? You are not the only one freaking out. Gotta give it to you, though, at your age doing
all you do--don't know how you manage! You da woman!!!!

Lots of jostling going on to make them all fit in--somewhere... I go through this every year!

Wanna see something I made to take to the Seed Swap for the gift table? It never made it there...(see pic.).
Donner saw the picture and claimed it! I will gladly give it to her--as she is coming here next week
to take me out for a B-Day dinner. BIG one!!! Can you believe 75?????? Whaaaaa...
I will just pretend I don't know it! Who? ME????? NO WAY!!!!! When did THIS happen?????

OK! Gotta fix some grub for dinner and lunch tomorrow at work.
Will play some of those amazing Latvian CD's while doing it. Nothing much of interest on the TV
on Saturdays! Lots of Sports...Bah--Humbug!
Fish, rice and Broccoli. Yum!

Gita

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 25, 2012
10:54 AM

Post #9019537

Then I made something else--and no one took it...Oh, well!
Next time I will bring a pair of gloves...

Do you "get" that there is all different nuts on all the perches?
I did remove the jelly Beans. Though it was a cute idea at the time--that they
are all sitting on eggs. NAH! Did not like it. Now there are just nuts with little red hats on them.

Can you find them all?
Brazil nut
Walnut
Peanut
Filberts
Pecan
Almond

Had to buy a bag of mixed nuts for $5 to do this. Loose nuts were long gone!

I LOVE doing silly crafts--or serious ones. Such a peaceful thing for the mind.
AAAAHHHHHH...

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coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 25, 2012
2:05 PM

Post #9019751

Oh, Gita, I meant Neil Diamond!

I do think that music is profound in its effects on us and on plants, it's the universal language.

Wonder what songs our cc s like? They come from cloud forests so maybe heavenly choirs!
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

February 25, 2012
2:39 PM

Post #9019778

WOW... you girls do SO MUCH, it is hard for me to think that any of you are over 50! I just hope that I can be doing as much as you all do when I am your age. With all my aches, pains, arthritis, etc., my body thinks it is 95! lol Hats off to you!

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 25, 2012
2:41 PM

Post #9019779

Judy---

I LOVE--LOVE---LOVE Neil Diamond! His songs "speak" to me...All the struggle about life
that he went through and, in his 7yr. hiatus wrote the most amazing songs.
If you can--find his double album called "Hot August Night". It was his come-back concert. LIVE!
I cry listening to a few of them. "Morningside" just kills me! OH! It is SOOO deep! "Cantalibre" is a close second...
The depth of his music and lyrics is unreal. You can feel the pain he has been through.

I have, like, 17 of his LP's. Would love to have them all on a CD. Lots of expense! Don't have the equipment---
But--somehow--it needs to be done.

What music would CC's like? Lets ask them! Maybe JB would know?

Gita



Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 25, 2012
3:03 PM

Post #9019815

Here is my experiment with individual leaves of the Purple Passion plant
that I bought for Ruby.
The leaves sure seem to be perking up. I am hoping that means they "may" be rooting.
after all--this plant roots so easily--just like a Wandering Jew.

The 4" pots look a bit droopy--but I just did this today.

G.

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 26, 2012
7:14 AM

Post #9020466

Morning ladies, I must answer the music question first. I always have a radio on so the music the plants get is a variety and the birds in the breeding room always had Country Music on. LOL.. worked for me.

My personal favorite music was when of course the Big Band Music and Sinatra. But, as they all died and music changed, I really loved the songs Barry White used to sing before he died. Tony Bennet is about the only person still alive that I can listen to and understand the words etc. Most of the music , other than country, can I listen to and understand the words. Or, they say the same words over and over during the entire music. I believe it or not was a jitterbug in my younger days and loved to dance and listen to music. Now I find myself going back to my very old CDs when i want to relax and just listen. Neil Diamond does some really nice music, but as I said, no one really jumps out at me at this time in my life. I bet if old Blue Eyes came back I would pay attention. LOL.

I have put a link on my website for Dave's Garden Feedback. Just click on the Garden Watchdog logo and it will take you to the place where you can do it.
If I did business with any of you, I would appreciate you giving me some feedback...good or bad...no matter, just feedback so I can make improvements in my business this year when needed. It is very difficult for people to give you feedback that will show up on Garden Watchdog. Many people used to Dmail me with thanks and praise and it never shows up for the public to see. I feel it is imperative I know how people feel about my plants after shipping. I seldom sell to my forum friends but if I have sold to any of you, please give me some feedback. Ebay is different, they make it easier than DG,

Time to go Mass and pray for all of you. Be safe, stay well and do not blow away. Talk later.

jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

February 26, 2012
8:51 AM

Post #9020590

Good morning everyone,

I have to say when i read all the post above i was just amazed !!!! Yall are quit a bunch!! I will be 42 in july & everyone of you run circles around me,you all manage to grow the most beautiful flowers and then still have the time to answer all of the questions that are asked on here,i know i could drive anyone crazy with questions.I'm with crit hats off to you all!!!

I to am interested in learning more about the plant trade.I don't have a lot of different plants but i am as bad with Hoya's as i am with cc's if i see one i have to buy it,something inside me just takes over.There are a couple of other plants that as time goes by i find myself being drawn to,epi's seem to be climbing the list fast.I got a catalog from logee's that says 49 new plants and they have some pretty epi's in it.

Jelinda
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

February 26, 2012
9:29 AM

Post #9020640


I did have a question about my cc cutting's,got tied up in all the stuff you all seem to accomplish and totally forgot to ask.LOL

The cuttings i took back about the end of nov.-dec. have all rooted really really well.I rooted them differently than i had ever done before but i will be doing it this way from now on with a little fine tuning.I used the drain pan of an old 12 in.flower pot that i no longer use.I mixed half & half peat and vermiculite just damp,i only watered by misting them.I use the large bags from the produce department at the grocery store to put the cuttings in.As long as the bag has moisture on it i don't water,only mist when bag starts to dry out.I noticed a while back that all of the cuttings had roots coming out of the sections above the soil grabbing onto other pieces and all the cuttings were leaning the same way.I took them out of the bag and i have never seen anything like this.They were all attached & rooted into the soil from the sections above the soil and there is a net of roots covering the top layer of soil but they also rooted under the soil from the bottom of the cuttings as well.

It's not to early to go ahead & pot these up, is it because they have tons of roots but being in a drain tray i can't water them only mist, there's no drain holes.Tugging on the cutting and they don't budge they are rooted in good and strong.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 27, 2012
6:52 AM

Post #9021679

During this period of "calm" for some of us, it would be nice to learn more about the "trade" and the "swap" . I have never had time to sit and read all the rules, regs, etc. and will not take the time to do it. Is there someone on here that can give it to us in a nut shell and possibly help out?

Jo, that is great that you have found a way that works for you to root your cuttings. Remember the size of the pot when you transplant them is extremely important depending on how many you put in the pot.

The other day I was on a forum and I can not for the life of me remember which one, but one man was talking about how wrong we are about CC liking to be pot bound ...not only Cc, but many plants that the majority says love to be pot bound are incorrect. I wish I could remember where I saw it. I wanted to print it out and show it to you all for your comments and now I can not find out where it was. I was so surprised and I would love to know his credentials.How could so many of us be wrong all these years. LOL

Gita, what are your thoughts?
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

February 27, 2012
7:46 AM

Post #9021765

Sure JB ... in a nutshell? I'll try. Plant swaps: usually these are trades with someone for plants they have you want and you have that they want. There is a 'raise my baby' swap where you send a 'baby' plant and they follow the growth of them. Also hosta swaps where you send 3 or more in return for 3 or more you do not have.

My swaps are "goodies swaps". You are assigned a specific person to send your box to. There is a link that has 'only' likes and dislikes on it to personalize your box to fit your buddy. In the St. Patricks Day swap, it is any kind of doo-dad for St. Patricks day or 'green' stuff, etc. Green can be items, green flower plants or seeds, bulbs, etc. You narrow it down by your buddies list. As example, for my buddy I am painting a "blaney stone" for her. Just a rock I found in the field and am going to paint on it. I also have a green watering globe, green travel mug, green gum, green apron w/sunflowers on it, green candle, some chocolates, etc. I'm in one right now that is a Windchime swap. Same deal, you are assigned a buddy and someone is assigned to you. You send a windchime to your buddy and you get one in return from the person who got your name. Some are a back and forth swap between 2 people and some are a random swap.

Does that help? If you have more questions or want more specifics, you can dmail me or if others are interested and it is OK, you can post them here! It really is a lot of fun.
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 27, 2012
9:21 AM

Post #9021902

Just found this great site from North Dakota University where the Horticulturalist , Ron Smith will answer email questions on
christmas cactus and other plants!

http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/contents.htm

Here is the link to some Q and A s :

http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/houseplnts/xmascctus.htm

Will be back later to share my thoughts on Jelinda and JB posts on ariel roots/propagation and my take on
"liking to be root bound".

Have a good day all!

Judy

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 27, 2012
3:44 PM

Post #9022402

JB---

I really do not know what to tell anyone about the "root bound" thing of CC's. Lets see if anyone else can.
I know some plants like to be root-bound---AV's, Spath, Aeglonemas--Cacti, etc...

I always thought CC's liked to be a bit tight--but I cannot tell you the source of that information.
One of those long-gone memories of something I learned or heard and always passed on...

If you uproot an older CC--their root system is rather shallow and minimal. Kind of...deep surface roots.
Deep pots would not work too well for these plants. Too much soil--too much moisture...

My tiny rooted CC's from last year and this year are all still in their 1 1/2" -2" clay or plastic pots.
I am starting to think I should move them on to--perhaps--3" pots. Those poor things dry out every other day!
But--that is what clay pots DO! Prevents over watering...
I may use my gazillion Yogurt cups I have saved for this purpose. Holes are all melted in the bottom already.
They are all about 2 1/2"-3" in size.
Space, of course, is at a premium in my house. Hopefully, after I re-pot them, they could, happily, live outside already.
Then again--when all this is done--I hope that there will be a lot of takers for all these.

What kind of pots do you use--JB? You wheel and deal in these plants. What works best for you?
After all--YOU are our resident expert on these! We all learn from you--and you from us...sometimes...

Here are this past year's crop of CC' sections rooting...

Gita

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sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 28, 2012
6:44 AM

Post #9023085

ROOTBOUND that may be in the Indoor Plant forum, in a thread by ' tapla.'

I've read through some of tapla's lengthy threads and I believe what he says. I have taken a few items of sick plants out of their pots and been amazed at the condition of the roots--which fully explained why the plant was sick.

If I can boil it down right- he claims that nothing likes to be potbound. However, a plant being potbound may make it more likely to bloom, or behave how we want it to, and less likely to root rot. If in doubt you should look for one of those really long tapla threads and read through.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 28, 2012
7:57 AM

Post #9023172

Sally, that is exactly who it was. I remember because he reminded me of the "fish" with a similiar name.
Thank you so much. I really did read some of this things but when they get too lengthy I loose interest. I must go back there. thanks again.

He really blew me away with his lengthy comments about potbound plants and I have been thinking about it ever since. It completely throws out all the old time ways many of us did things before. That is why I wanted to know his credentials. Was he just someone who "thinks they know it all" or is he really truly someone we should be listening to. I was always one to say, if it works for you, do it. But, maybe that is not what we should be doing...maybe it is time for change. I think he was in the Houseplants wasn't he? I am going to see if I can talk to him. Can't hurt to ask questions. Unless he is a Mr. Grumpy, he will be happy to talk to me. LOL. Later.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 28, 2012
8:18 AM

Post #9023206

The posts you all should read if you have not are the two sticky ones at the top of the Houseplant Forum by Tapia or Al. I love the way he talks about plants. It is almost like he thinks of them as living things with feelings. I love it. I have written him and just maybe I can ask him to visit our thread and answer some of our questions if you would all like that. We will see what he says when he replies to my dmail if he does.

I am always willing to learn and change things if it is best for my little babies. Maybe this is our opportunity to take advantage of some really good ideas. We will see.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 28, 2012
12:07 PM

Post #9023424

Al send me this and I am sharing it with you in the event some of you have not seen his work. I am really impressed with some of the things he says. I need a month or so to read it all. Wow, he sure does like to write and it shows. Love it.

This is a thread that's been very active since 2005. It has over 2,500 posts to it. You might find it interesting: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/contain/msg02145800...

Later, JB

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 28, 2012
5:12 PM

Post #9023847

Al seems like the Real Deal on plant care and I beleive what he says. Thanks for the link
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

February 29, 2012
7:15 AM

Post #9024404

JB as soon as i read your post i knew you had to be talking about Al Tapla.He knows his stuff but you have to be up to his level to understand what he's talking about sometimes.A lot of you could probably follow him. I started reading some of what Al had wrote,and he does have a different way of looking at the whole idea of growing in pots.He has some of the most beautiful plants I've seen.For a while i read his post.But he started talking about potting mediums & fertilizer,i got a little (lots) lost.I would try to ask a question about what i didn't understand but he gets so caught up in his writing that i wouldn't understand what he wrote & then couldn't find the answer to my question,so i stopped reading it,It was just over my head.

Gita, all those babies you have planted with just one or a couple together,are your plans to let them grow like that and have that many potted cc's.I was wondering because i have rooted a few of different colors & wanted to make a pot with different colors in a pot.

What do yall recommend as far as potting up my babies? I have a shallow pot that's either an 8 or 10 in.pot.I thought they would be ok being well rooted & with new growth in this size pot because it's so shallow.The pot is the same size as the drain pan i rooted them in & the roots have made their way to the bottom of it,The pot I'm using is maybe a little more than half as deep as what they are rooting in.I don't think it will be to much soil.
Now for yall's thoughts: should i let then root longer or what??

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 29, 2012
7:16 AM

Post #9024405

At my age I may not live long enough to read it all. LOL. I hope it helps someone.

It is raining here today and I am feeling crappy. Think maybe I will spend the day doing paperwork and rest a bit. Maybe I overdid it the past few days. Talk to you all later. JB

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 29, 2012
7:32 AM

Post #9024420

Jo, I feel the same way. I think I ran across him a few years ago and found his information very informative if you do things that way. I lost interest in that forum when it got into the mixing medium etc. as you say. I do not have time or the place to do that. I am also too old. Many years ago I tried mixing medium, I got all sorts of stuff and stored it in my little barn. Not a year later, I had a rat chew his way into the barn and he dug into all the bales of good stuff I had, bags, etc. and it was all over the barn the next day. It took me days to clean it up and haul it away and that was the end of my mixing. Now I buy the big bags or bales of already professional mix or Miracle Grow soil and use it. If the plants do not like it, too bad. It is my way and that is what I can afford to do and have the time to do.

I do feel he is very informative but for me it is too involved. I like to keep it simple. LOL.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 29, 2012
10:26 AM

Post #9024586

JoJoe----

What you see in those pictures is the testament to my obsession to propagate everything...
I cannot help but do it! Do I think far enough ahead as to what I will do with all those "babies"? Nope!
The joy is in seeing something grow and "make it" from a single leaf of something...

We have a Plant Swap coming up on May 19th at Holly and Ric's. You bet I will be taking a lot of these up to there--
and then begging people to take some.
Then--there is always work (HD) where people are so used to me bringing all kinds of plants for others.

To answer your question---NO! I do not think I would grow each one of those "babies" out to maturity with
just one or two segments. Since I only have about 3-4 different colors among all those starts--I would
probably plant several of them in--maybe--a 6" pot and let them grow. I think I will keep all one color in the same pot...
I have: The common fuchsia/white------Red-----and that awesome Salmon/Coral one.

I noticed this past Holiday season there was a "trend" for mixed colors of CC's in the same pot.
Not sure if I would like that...kind of "cosmic"...:o)

I also started a couple more colors from broken off pieces I p/u at HD and Lowes. One was a med. pink one.
Then there was one kind of white???...These are not doing all that well--as I do not know how long those
small sections laid around on the shelves before I took them.. None of them were "plump"...kind of dessicated...
We will see if any make it...

As to your question about rooting several in an 8" pot---go for it! After reading Tapla's article--there seems to be
no such thing as root-bound or too big a pot. IF I were you--I would go with no bigger than a 6" pot.

How many cuttings do you plan to put in the 8" pots? Surely--if you intend to have them all grow to maturity--you would not
put in more than 3-4 plants???? If you go 7 or 8--can you imagine how HUGE the mature plants will be when they are all grown?
And THEN--you will have to transplant all that in a bigger pot! NOT an easy chore.

As far as all my "babies"----I need to pot them up asap. I plan to use yogurt cups--which are about 2 1/2"-3" in size.
Whomever ends up with one of these can do what they wish with them. My goal is to pass on as healthy and
well-growing plants as I can--to anyone I give them to.
So far---So good from all the feedback I have gotten. Everyone has been happy...

Good luck! Just plan to think ahead...Gita

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 29, 2012
5:48 PM

Post #9025184

Cleaning out my In-Box--deleting what is not important to save.
This sure is!

Need to relax a bit? De-stress a bit? Watch this amazing video. Breathe---relax---enjoy----!!!

Will any of you take ONLY 6 minutes to watch this and listen to the soft music?
AND--above all--enjoy the amazing scenery that goes along with it.

This is from a Web Site called "Andies Isle". I may have posted this before--but it sure feels great
seeing it again--and tha mazing music that comes along with it.
Gita

*****************************************************************

This is one of the most beautiful and meaningful streaming videos ever created.
Be sure your speakers are on. This is pushed by the BBC!
You can also bookmark the site of the person who created this--
She has many more videos for you to enjoy.
The link is below the You Tube video.
Can you imagine NBC, CBS or ABC doing this? WOW!

http://www.andiesisle.com/creation/magnificent.html

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

February 29, 2012
5:50 PM

Post #9025186

Well---

You may have to put the web-address in your URL. Does not open here on DG.
PLEASE! Do it!!!!

I tried it and it works!!!!

andiesisle.com will also get you there...

This message was edited Feb 29, 2012 8:58 PM

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

March 1, 2012
3:12 PM

Post #9026199

Hi Jackie, did you ever grow Zucchetta rampicante or Trombocchino?

One of the girls on Facebook ask me the above question. She is looking for seeds...any ideas? I told her to check some of the forums on DG. I don't do veggies. Did herbs one year and never sold a one. LOL

Thanks. JB

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Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 2, 2012
7:51 AM

Post #9026910

My little segments that I 'saved' from certain death into the trash can have little roots on them. I tried the planting method and also the laying on top of the soil method, and both worked! I just potted them up in little pots hoping they will keep going!

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

March 2, 2012
11:39 AM

Post #9027125

JBerger- those seeds can be bought from Pinetree Garden Seeds

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

March 2, 2012
12:45 PM

Post #9027201

Thank you Sally. Now I have to try and remember who it was that ask me. Yikes. JB

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

March 3, 2012
10:08 AM

Post #9028292

I guess you could post the coo\mment of Facebook. that "Zuchetta-- seeds can be bought at Pinetree Seeds" --I don't use Facebook a lot...

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

March 3, 2012
2:42 PM

Post #9028554

I learned how to go back and read messages today. Worked and I gave her the information. Thanks so much. Hugs. JB
ibartoo
Pawleys Island, SC

March 6, 2012
7:51 AM

Post #9032042

Hi Everyone, I am back. I just need to go back and read the stuff I missed. LOL, I will try to get caught up and jump back in soon.
I will also try to revive the camellia thread.
I just wanted to say hi.
Linda
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

March 9, 2012
6:01 AM

Post #9035541

are these what you were looking for JB?

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

March 9, 2012
12:45 PM

Post #9035966

I have those and they are better than nothing. Thanks.

PLEASE TAKE NOTE IF YOU SHOP ON MARKETPLACE.
The Marketplace will be closing March 15th at noon forever. It is being replaced with Plant Scout and the Classified Ad section. If you have any questions go to the Marketplace Forum and go on the thread about Changes and read all about it.

Gotta go, have a lot to do before they close down. See you all later. JB

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

March 28, 2012
10:15 AM

Post #9060427

At this time of year usually my cactus are resting but for some crazy reason, they are all blooming again.
Here is the Salmon and the Orange stock plants that under normal conditions I would be taking cuttings, but they will not stop blooming. I am enjoying their beauty and just had to share them with you all. Have a great Easter and keep in touch and let me know if your Holiday Cactus are blooming.

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jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

March 28, 2012
6:46 PM

Post #9061181

Hello everyone,

JB, your cc's are thanking you for the care they get.

I wanted to ask about putting my cc's outside?The temp's are in the high 70's and even into the 80's most days but at night the temp is getting down into the 50's.I'm think my cc's can handle that but some night it's been getting down to 48* is the forecast so it could be going colder.Should i bring my cc's in at night? what's the temperature limits for them.

Can epi's take full sun now & they will need shade when summer gets here and it get's hot and also the cc's what's their temp. tolerance.

Thanks so much

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
7:13 AM

Post #9061629

I put my CC outside every summer but not in the full sun. Just morning sun is all mine get. As for the epi, I do not know enough about them. Gita does if she checks this forum I am sure she will answer you. See you later. Hugs and Prayers. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
8:36 AM

Post #9061750

LOL--JB! I check all these posts about 5x a day...

Jojoe---

I put my Epis outside along with all the other 50 or 60 plants every year.
When you bring anything out--make sure you give them shade first--then filtered light and then sun--
if that is what the plants call for.

I really think Epis prefer a bit of protection from the hot, afternoon sun.
Mine hand near my huge Silver maple and get sun in the early part of the day,
and then dappled sun as it passes over the tree. They seem to do well in this situation.

IF you harden them off in part shade now--then, I think, the full spring sun may be OK. Just be careful..
When the sun goes higher (gets hotter) find a dappled sun spot for it to hang.

Hope this helps...

Re the CC.s---same advice. Shade first--then AM sun should be OK.

All my CC babies have been outside for a couple of weeks already--except the last couple of cold days--
but they are on some plant stands right outside my front door, which faces N. No sun on them at all.
Also easy to keep an eye on and to water when needed...
I have others there as well, which ALL are inside the house at this time.
Did put the CC's back out this AM.

Gita

Here:

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jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

March 29, 2012
9:25 AM

Post #9061840

Thank you both for the advice,

I'm sitting around helping my daughter keep track of contractions now that she's out of the hospital.So i figured I would get some things done.

I have 5 Epi babies and this question even sounds kinda dumb to me but here goes.The leaf that they were started from will it wither away when the babies don't need it?Am i suppose to to something with it?

Thank you and JB your the best
Gita I am so thankful for all your help!!

P.S. I am expecting a granddaughter and my daughter is 20 and lives at home after her fiancee tucked tail & ran at the word baby.But a baby is always a wonderful thing.My daughter is many inches under 5 ft.& weighed 80 lbs.now weighs almost 30 more,they are thinking the baby is is a good 8 & a half pounds or more.

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
2:29 PM

Post #9062232

Jojoe---

That is exactly what my two Red Epis looked like when i got them in a trade from CA.
Never heard of an Epi before that.

The leaves you got will stay there. They will not die off. They will grow endless side "leaves" and those "leaves" will grow more.
An Epi can get quite ungainly. The leaves are semi-succulent and heavy.
Leave them grow in those 4" pots until you would swear they will split the sides. Then you can pot them up to a sturdy, 6" HB.
Do not hurry to pot them up in bigger pots. They only bloom when pot-bound. You cannot believe how pot bound
they can get and just love it! And then--they will gift you with amazing blooms.

In season--feed them and water them like anything else. Come late fall--they like to have a slight dormant period--at least here.
(I am in z-7a). We have winters--well...NOT this year!...:o) but--usually.
I stop watering them in October--and let them be until early Spring.

If you have any specific questions. please go to the "Orchid cactus" Forum. They know all about Epis there...
I don't think too many people in MD grow these things.

Just to WOW you--here is one of the Epis I got in 2005. Last year--it bloomed for the first time. talk about patience!
The other one had bloomed once before.

Here is the WOW factor...it blew me away!!!!!!
And a picture of both of them in my LR for the winter. Notice their gangly shapes? Such is their way...

Gita

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

March 29, 2012
2:31 PM

Post #9062236

Forgot the over-wintering of the Epis in mt LR. Here you can really see their shapes.
They are both, by now, in 10"HB's.

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sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

March 30, 2012
7:59 AM

Post #9063040

Since indoor plants need shade when they first go out, I try (real hard) to wait until the trees have enough leaves to make enough shady places for me. Thats something that seems a natural and handy reminder for me on putting them out.

p. s. good luck jojoe for your daughter and baby
bluepoppy
Landisburg, PA
(Zone 6a)

March 30, 2012
1:04 PM

Post #9063386

Does anyone have a pink Easter cactus that they would be willing to part with???
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 31, 2012
9:30 AM

Post #9064288

I have a Red Epi that I got from Gita probably 1 1/2 years ago. It lived in a tall styrofoam cup with a stake until a couple of weeks ago I put it into a pot. In doing so, I accidentally broke off a piece of it and now have it in dirt, hoping to get another start. It lived in my game room where I overwinter all of my plants. After I moved everything out, I forgot about it, and when I noticed it again it was still going great guns.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

March 31, 2012
4:46 PM

Post #9064722

Bluepoppy--

I have a red Easter cactus--but only the one plant. It is a good size--but I have nothing to share.

Maybe, after it blooms, I will cut it back a bit. Risky! This has been growing for several years,
and still is only a decent-sized plant in a 6" pot.

I did not know there was a pink one! Could you post a picture of it in bloom?

Thanks, Gita
Here is mine...Pic. #1 is from 2006
Pic. #2 is from last year

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bluepoppy
Landisburg, PA
(Zone 6a)

March 31, 2012
9:37 PM

Post #9065024

Hirts has a pink and a fushia...very pretty...
I don't have a pic but they do...

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 1, 2012
10:55 AM

Post #9065538

Not to change the subject, but here are two more beginning to bloom again. Christen is the pink, Thor Carmen is the Red.

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bluepoppy
Landisburg, PA
(Zone 6a)

April 1, 2012
11:04 AM

Post #9065559

yes I have several of the christmas cactus blooming now also

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 1, 2012
2:59 PM

Post #9065785

I do not remember this happening last year. Hmmmmm.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 1, 2012
5:31 PM

Post #9065931

I almost never get a second bloom...what would cause this???

Maybe I just do not have enough light for that??? At best--my CC's live at a bright dusk during the winter.
I have no space for plants under good light conditions--NONE!

My light set-up is very small (3') and I use it for nurturing any cuttings i am growing. Then they get too big--and then
I have to keep moving things around to even give the plants some kind of light...wherever I can find it.

It is a yearly battle...How I wish I had deep window sills at all my windows! My sills are 1 1/2" deep.
That tells you just how frustrating it is. Old house! NO high ceilings or wide windowsills.

Somehow---we all manage to come through it all it OK shape. Gita
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 1, 2012
7:11 PM

Post #9066080

don't have time but look what we brought home today

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coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 2, 2012
6:05 AM

Post #9066473

Oh WOW Jojoe! How precious.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 2, 2012
6:11 AM

Post #9066486

That's a keeper JoJo! Congratulations.
rubyw
Crozet, VA

April 2, 2012
6:18 AM

Post #9066497

I haven't had time to read here for months but felt that I needed to check in with a progress report. Last week I had two holiday blooms. Upon inspection and remembering the pictures I took closer to Christmas, I realized that the two that bloomed last week also were the only two I had bloom at Christmas too. I found that very interesting.

Hope that some others are having some lovely blooms to brighten their days too.

Ruby

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 4, 2012
8:54 AM

Post #9069488

Congrats jojoe. beaiutiful!
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 9, 2012
9:40 AM

Post #9075517

Hello all,

I'm finally starting to get a routine going even if it involves waking up every 2 & a half to 3 hours all night.At least i don't have to get up,her moma has only needed me a few times.I am loving it.

Question I have a cc that is dropping stems.I think the soil it's potted in stays to wet to long.My husband watered for me while i was in hospital with our daughter.Some of the stems are breaking off at the soil,rotting under the soil.

I was think about potting it and any other cc that needs repotting in a mix i pick up,it's labeled orchid mix and it is soil-less.If i add a little good potting soil to this mix it will drain great & it will get the nutrients from the potting soil i add.

ADVICE & OPINION'S PLEASE

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2012
2:02 PM

Post #9075915

jojoe----

One of my older, potted CC's also dropped a whole stem today.
This seems to happen when I water too much all of a sudden. I tend to water everything when I am watering--shame on me!
Also--the older CC's have woody stems and seem to like being drier.

What i will do is check out the dropped stem for rot or any other problems, and then
Put it in fresh potting MIX (not soil!) and let it be. Keeping it just moist...

Potting SOIL has soil in it--making it heavier and also more water-retentive.
Potting MIX has no soil in it--just peat moss and Perlite (or Vermiculite). Very fluffy and well draining.
Good for things that need to root. I have no particular suggestions as to brands---
just look for "Potting MIX". However--i am partial to all soils and mixes bu Miracle Gro.
Lately--the "Organic Choice" mixes have also gotten my attention.

Orchid soil has a lot of chunky materials in it. bark--chunks of Perlite, etc...NO soil at all!
Since Orchids never grow in soil--just up in the crotches of trees in the tropical forests--
the Orchid Soils try to duplicate the natural conditions. Orchids anchor to whatever spaces they can--
and then grow heavy roots that hold them in place in the tree tops. They are Epiphytes.
Most Orchid cactus--like Epis and Ric-Racs and Night Blooming Cereus are also in this category.

Holiday cactus needs lose soil for drainage, but also sturdy enough soil to hold the weight of the branching fronds.
SO! In my opinion, they need soil they can root in and anchor in. A good Potting MIX.

JB--where are you?????? She is our expert here! Please chime in and tell me if i am correct or not...
If not--please tell Jojoe what they should do!

By the way--Congratulations on your new baby. How sweet and how beautiful!!!!

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2012
2:59 PM

Post #9075957

Hey, Hi, I am sorry to be so absent, but I have had so much going here lately and the baby Christmas Trees are beginning to arrive, they need to be planted, stakes and watered and since they say I am too old to help in the field, I do the paperwork and the cooking. PITA. I would rather be out in the field. I also have been cutting daffodils for several weeks for the roadside stand and just closed that on Sat. AM. I did very well this week and then yesterday, I gave all the women big bunhes of the last hybrid daffys for Easter.
Gita, you are really on the same track that I am.on when it comes to potting soil. I too think they need some soil. I use the Miracle Grow also and if mine ever stop blooming I must repot some of the older ones, yet I keep hesitating because they seem so happy. The very old ones dropped some leaves becasue I fertilized and watered them and they do that each year. They did perk up and seem really happy now. This is a good time to fertilize between blooming and resting time. But, mine are not resting. I am going crazy since I can not take any cuttings until I am sure they are done blooming. I enjoy their blooms too much to mess up this second bloom.
Gita, did I ever send you an Aimee Gardenia? I sent someone one and I can not remember who and I was wonderring how it was doing.
I have drops in my eyes just now and can not see what I am typing so I will talk tomorrow. Hugs. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2012
4:51 PM

Post #9076135

JB--

No. You never sent me that Gardenia. Must have been someone else...

I have a beautiful Gardenia--called "Bob Hope". Had to cut it back to the nubs a couple of years ago.
It had had some leaf fungus for 3 years. My "Gardenia Guru"--Mike in GA-- advised me to cut it back.

It is now re-growing into a nice, tall shrub. No blooms this year--I know that...

I am patient and waiting. gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 10, 2012
6:20 AM

Post #9076744

Gita, would you like to have a 3 y.o. Aimee Gardenia plant? I have two I want to move and I thought I had sent you one earlier. I apologize. I remember speaking about your Bob Hope but I could not remember if you had said you did or did not want one. They are not pretty plants but the blooms are wonderful for cutting and putting in a bud vase. They also root in water after the flower dies. If you want one please let me know so I can get it shipped to you. These are about to get buds and I do not like to ship when they are in bud. Thanks. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 10, 2012
7:37 AM

Post #9076832

JB--

Such a lovely offer! I looked it up in PF. Such a pure white! Very classic.

I have never grown a Gardenia. Never! Seen many of them in the stores i have worked in.

I am scared to try it--as I know that Gardenias need special care.
Where would I keep it for the winter?
Where do YOU keep it for the winter? In your Greenhouse?

If you send me directions and how to care/fertilize/what kind of soil, etc--I will accept your offer.
I know they need acid and iron. Right? What kind of pests does it attract? As a rule--I have NO pests.

To refuse your kind offer would be most inconsiderate...
OK! Lets do it!

Would you like some Salmon CC's in return? You like that one!
They are all still one or two segment starts--so easy to mail (minus the clay pots).
Or--have you propagated the ones I sent you earlier and have enough?
I have about 10 little clay pots of this one--plus the Mama. Have some red ones too.
Be glad to send you some. Let me know...

By the Way--My "Bob Hope" is a Camellia--NOT a gardenia. My error!!!

Hugs--Gita

--One of my bigger Clivias in bloom.
--How the bloom emerges from the tight rosette of the base stems. Amazing!

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Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 10, 2012
5:29 PM

Post #9077580

JB and Gita, if I may be so bold to ask, could I possibly get a start of the gardenia and the salmon cc? I would be most appreciative.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 10, 2012
7:19 PM

Post #9077707

Crit--I could send you a small, rooted start of the salmon CC.

I have your address from previous sends...will let you know when i send it out to you.

JB said she only had 2 of the gardenias to share. i am getting one of them...
You would have to ask her...

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 11, 2012
5:54 AM

Post #9078095

Crit, if you remind me at a later date I will send you a rooted cutting of the Aimee.; I just have nothing at this time to send. I can not cut the ones I have at this time because they are all in bud and this is not the time to cut. When they bloom is when I cut. Then I have to make sure they root, and then, is when I can share the cuttings. So, Sweetie, please remind me at a later date like June. OK?????
How is your weather in Tulsa. I was worried about Dave since we had not heard from him for awhile.
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 13, 2012
10:38 AM

Post #9081005

Hello everyone,

I bought an ec (easter cactus) the day Lily (the baby) was a week old.The plan is to keep,take care of and have it grow large & beautiful until a time when i can give it to her.I'm sure i will go through many plants between now & then.LOL So to keep that number to a minimum here's a question or two. (i have a peace lily my moma bought when my oldest was born 23yrs. ago)

I know what i have is a Hatiora gaertneri and it is very similar to a cc but i can definitely tell the difference. Is that where the similarities stop their looks or are they also cared for in the same way or close to it.They look like they can be propagated the same way.I will be doing some research on my new little plant,but you all always have some advice that comes from experience and i would like to hear yall's opinion's & advice on this plant.(ok I'm from the south,raised & born in the country & we say yall LOL i have went back & changed "yall" to "you all" so many times)

It's finally nice outside and I'm finishing up trimming my azalea's & hopefully last night was that last late frost we always get.Nothing but sunshine & dirt for me this weekend.I hope everyone has a nice weekend as well.

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 13, 2012
4:02 PM

Post #9081387

jojoe---

Are the pictures you posted of an Easter cactus?????
They are a bit out of focus and I could not really tell. Besides--they are pink????

Here is my Easter Cactus, but it has bright red blooms. Yours look pink...

EC cuttings take longer to root than CC cuttings. It was a good 3 years that mine finally
got its act together...I had a little one that I gave to sallyG. That was at least 2+ years old before it
showed some active growth. Still small--in a 4" pot...
The Mama one I have had for ages--maybe 6-7 yrs?

I may prune it back when it its done blooming this year and see if i can root some of the sections...

Here is what mine looks like...last summer...
The other picture is from years ago---2006, and I am sure I had it a few years before it got this big!
So--it is pretty old...Note the leaves. They have NO spiky points--just a slightly scalloped edge.

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 14, 2012
6:52 AM

Post #9081965

Gita, that is a beauty...but, they do come in other colors I think I purchased two for my daughter and neither of them were red.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 14, 2012
4:18 PM

Post #9082562

JB----OK! Thanks for putting me straight! Gita
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 14, 2012
9:17 PM

Post #9082868

Hi all ...sorry I haven't checked in for a few days. Been busy getting ready for this months "Family Day" and re-doing my iris beds.

Gita, that would be great if you could send me a salmon CC start! Much appreciated.

JB--that would be great on the starts of Aimee. Much appreciated.

We have been having a lot of rain and some severe weather. Nothing serious so far, but this is just the beginning of the season. I haven't heard from Dave either. Don't know what he is up to.

Pretty cc and ec's. I'm off to either bed or to read some more posts. Don't know what to do with these storms possibly approaching. Night all.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 15, 2012
7:31 AM

Post #9083149

Gita, I did not mean to sound like I was "setting you straight" I was merely saying I think there are other colors of Epi (orchid cactus). In the latest Logee catalog Spring 2012 they have a pink and orange one called 'Just Beautiful', the red of course called 'Unforgettable' a white and orange beauty called Ric Rac
and one with orange and red. I would love to have them all, but where do you put the?
I did not know that the Night Blooming Cereus is also an Epi...I have so much to learn and so little time to learn it.
Just wanted you to know I did not mean to sound snippy and if I did, please forgive me. I have alot on my mind just now.JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 15, 2012
12:01 PM

Post #9083472

JB!

I NEVER, EVER (shouting...) would accuse you of being snippy! I did not take it that way at all...
Sorry if my comment seemed like it! It was NOT meant to. I just appreciated your input.

I thanked you for "setting me straight" of assuming that Easter cactus only came in red...

Thank you, my Friend that i always trust! Hugs, Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 15, 2012
2:26 PM

Post #9083675

Holy Crap Gita, I heard that without my $5000 hearing aids. I hate those suckers, hate having to spend the money only to have them annoy the poop out of me. Oops. Sorry. Bad JB

I thought you were just making a statement. Not like you to be snippy to me of all people. LOL You just email me privately and tell me off. LOL Just kidding.

Have to go...you gotta see those beauties in that new Logee catalog. Ohhhhhh my are they pretty. I want.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 15, 2012
7:28 PM

Post #9084015

JB---as many know by now--I DO NOT subscribe to the idea that capitalizing anything means i am "shouting".
I use it just for emphasis.

Someone at some time decided that capitalizing means shouting?????????? And then it took off--
like a forward of someone's personal ways of thinking---and now everyone subscribes to that.

Just think how boring a verbal conversation would be if it is all in a flat monotone.
I think the same way about writing. Some words NEED emphasis--- accentuating...just to make a point...

Well--NOT going to go there again. It rattles up too many people...Do not want to go through that again.

Good night all! Gita LOVE YA ALL!!!!...there!

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 16, 2012
8:00 AM

Post #9084545

No problem with me Sweetie. I am good and so are you, Gita. Want you to know I will not be shipping Aimee until Tuesday. It is to be 80 plus here today and most of the week in the 80s so I want to be sure you are home to get it and it does not lay in the box in the heat. You are off Thurs. so that will be good.
I will let you know when she is on her way. JB
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 16, 2012
10:32 AM

Post #9084756

Hello everyone,

Do the easter cactus bloom under the same conditions as our cc.Do they have to have x number of hours in complete darkness to bloom?

My camera finally died and the hubby got me another.I have discover that i don't know how to operate the darn things,maybe i just don't know the correct settings.Anyway here are some more picture i managed to find time to take,download and now post.

ENJOY THE LOVELY WEATHER !!!

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 16, 2012
2:02 PM

Post #9085010

JB--I was worried--in case your gardenia was on its way already. With all this heat!!!

I am off both Thursday AND Friday. May give you some leeway...

I will wait until I get your send so i can get your address and mail you off the Salmon CC's to you.
Crit wanted one too--so i will be sending her a couple of the starts.

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 16, 2012
2:14 PM

Post #9085023

OK we will see what tomorrow is going to be like. It was almost 90 here today. Unreal. I will let you know tomorrow what I decide to do. I just do not want the bud that is already formed to fall off. LOL.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 16, 2012
3:07 PM

Post #9085100

JB---The bud will, more than likely, fall of anyway. being mailed in a box???

Gardenias are very touchy-feely about their environments...Right?

PLEASE also send me directions how to pot it up as soon as I get it.
Soil? Pot? Compost etc...I know they like acid soil and also Iron.
Please tell me what else??????? Getting nervous here to grow my FIRST gardenia!!!

Thanks, Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 17, 2012
5:32 AM

Post #9085778

Gita Honey, do not worry. I am going to try and mail it in the pot so we can let it adjust in its own soil for a few weeks and when it is finished blooming you can repot it in regular Miracle Grow potting soil and do not give it anything special until we see how it adjusts. It will loose some leaves, but it will be fine, I am sure. If you have a warm spot outside with some sun it will be fine. My plants are tough and healthy and take very little extra care except, Mealy Bugs will be your worst enemy. Then just put the hose on the plant, wash it good and spray it with the Soapy mixture, neems oil and dawn or whatever you can buy that is a soapy mixture with neems in it. They will be noticed first on the new buds coming out. I send you information and you should do some research on TopTropicals.com if you want to know more about the Aimee. It has a beautiful story to it. It is named after the deceased daughter of the man who grew them. She was killed in a plane crash. I did extensive research on them when I first got them and found them to be one of my favorites. Will be back with the shipping notice later. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 17, 2012
5:52 AM

Post #9085806

JB---

What opinion do you have about using Systemic Granules to combat Mealybugs?

I always treat ALL my plants with these granules about 2 weeks before I bring them in the house for the winter.

That, most likely, is the reason I never have any insect problems with my plants.

HD (at least here) no longer carries this product---going on 6-7 years now, but I found it at valley View Farms,
a HUGE, expensive Nursery, and then also at an el-cheapo store here called "Good Stuff Cheap".
It is hodge podge, out of date, overstocks, this and that buy-outs, etc. One of my favorite stores.

I now have 2 jugs of this stuff. Would you like me to include a small container of this product in the package when
I mail you the CC starts? It is made by Bonide.

Still need your address!!!!!! D-mail it to me, please...

Gita

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 17, 2012
6:32 AM

Post #9085857

I seldom use anything except natural stuff that is not harmful to animals and birds. My birds are in the room with the plants and if it gives off an odor of any kind it can harm them. My dog eats anything he finds on the floor and everyplace else. He loves eating flowers.

I never had MB until I brought home orchids from Home Depot and that was the beginning. I no longer buy plants there. My inspector from the State says there is very little to get rid of them you just have to keep spraying. He never suggested using anything else. Just the soap spray. I had very few this year so far but I did find them in the house on an orchid and a jasmine. They are both outside now, they had a good bath and I do not spray outside when the sun is out. I usually spray in the shade.

I will not guarantee you will not have MB on these gardenias. I know however at this time they are clean because they were just inspected a few days ago. Of course, that does not mean they will not get it. They get them outside in the summer at times so it is hard to say but just keep an eye open for them. Use whatever you want to use that works for you if it is not harmful to the plants.

I will do some research on your granules and see what they contain, etc. Thanks for the offer but I will pass on them until I read up on them. I did what you told me and put my address on DG list but I will give it to you here...
Jacquie Berger
305 Wrightstown Sykesville Rd
Wrightstown NJ 08562

Later. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 17, 2012
7:41 AM

Post #9085965

JB---
Yes! The granules have a really bad odor and are pretty nasty stuff.
Maybe that is why HD took it off the market years ago .

I have also found that plants I have purchased from HD eventually get scale or MB's.
They are grown in such massive amounts somewhere in FL--that I am sure they have
all kinds of problems with bugs.

I could tell you horror stories from the days (my first 5 years at HD) when I was in charge
of the WHOLE G-House of plants. back then the GH was totally full! Wall to wall.

It was an endless, ongoing battle with the MB's. And--the store was not too actively involved...
It was disgusting!!!! Scale--MB's and all kinds of stuff--and just me trying to get a grip on all this...

It is so much better now--with bell being in charge of the plants---but even they get the Tropicals from FL.

A couple years I bought a 10" pot of Shefflera Amati (the one with the big leaves) and, yep! It got scale on it...
I gave each leaf a soapy bath and a good rinse and put it back by my window. Hope it is better...

OK! Must get off the computer. Gorgeous day outside...why sit here...

Will mail your CC's out tomorrow.
Gita
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 17, 2012
6:32 PM

Post #9086802

I had a beautiful gardenia (don't know the name of it) that I had for about 5 years. I kept it trimmed so it never got larger than 4'. It would start blooming in the house usually in mid April. The house smelled sooooooooooo good. Then, year before last, it just up and died on me! I cut it back hoping the roots were still alive and it would resprout, but it never did. I was sick. One of my DG friends sent me a frost proof gardenia. It set outside all winter (if you can call what we had winter) and is doing great. I'm just wondering when it will bloom, or if it isn't old enough. It is only about a foot tall.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 18, 2012
6:01 AM

Post #9087231

OK, here is the stupid question for the day. I need to know when people talk about their Epi and their Oxys what are they talking about. Epi is Orchid Cactus but I looked up oxypotallum and DG did not have a result. It must be some sort of cactus but what does it look like? JB
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 18, 2012
7:12 AM

Post #9087321

JB I've found out more than once that finding things on Daves Garden is dependent on how accurately the name of item is spelled.

I believe you are looking for Epiphyllum oxypetalum a form of night blooming cactus.

I applaud you selling plants through ebay. Last week was my first time as a buyer and both experiences have been way less than satifactory as both orders arrived smashed and one seller sent diseased plants!

Hope you and Gita enjoy your new arrivals this week. You were both so cute with your "new plant mama" jitters!

Later, Judy
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 18, 2012
7:31 AM

Post #9087367

Judy, I have a question for you. I winter sowed some coleus, but it hasn't come up. We had a real mild winter and I wonder if they need to have some cold flucuation to germinate? I wish I had gotten some more starts from you last fall. Some of the momma plants are going to be OK, but I lost my favorite which was the purple frilly one! Maybe I can find some seed I saved from it, but I don't think I did.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 18, 2012
12:09 PM

Post #9087686

Judy, I thought they were two different things. When they talk about Epis they are talking about Orchid Cactus
When they talk about Oxy maybe they are talking about the Night Blooming cactus. It is all well and good for people to talk about the plants using the botanical names or whatever name it is, but for those of us who are used to the common names it is very frustrating. I guess if I were a Master Gardner instead of a plain old plant lover who just happens to have a nursery I would know all that stuff. Oh well, I am happy being just me. I will just keep on looking things up.

I have 100% positive feedback on eBay as well as DG for shipping and plant conditions. You really need to be careful where you buy plants online.; Not every state is as strict as NJ and you can get crappy stuff and it costs much more in the end. Check out the feedback on sellers before you buy from them if you think about it. It pays in the end. If someone gets a plant that is in poor condition when it arrives, and I know it is not my fault, I will still replace it if the person is honest with me. I can almost tell if someone is just trying to get another free plant.
I have only had one person tell me the plants were out of the pots and some leaves were off. I knew when I mailed that particular package I may not have put enough paper on the sides and there was too much bouncing and throwing boxes around so I really felt it could have been my fault. You must be sure NOTHING rattles or moves before you take them to the PO or UPS because they could care less what is in that package. Anyhow, I sent him another complete order at no charge and because of that, he is still an active buyer. If the seller does not stand up for his plants, he is not reliable. I do say that if there is a problem I will replace everything but I want proof of the damage first. That way if they send me a picture that is a mess I would replace it. If they do not send a picture, I would know they were not telling the truth. I hope you sent negative feedback for those sellers so others do not get ripped off too.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 18, 2012
5:35 PM

Post #9088113

JB ... what do you go by on e-bay? 100% is a terrific report! Congrats on that.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 18, 2012
6:18 PM

Post #9088155

JB---

Orchid Cactus is a HUGE family of plants. If my "pea brain" is correct--then it covers most of the plants
that are Epiphytes (Epis for short). Plants that live in the tops of the trees in the rain forests.
It includes all the Epis, N.B.C. being just one of them. Also known as Epiphyllum Oxypetalum (the Night Blooming Cereus).
the Ric-Rac Cactus, Most orchids, and zillions more--i am sure.
Not sure the CC's and X-mas cactus and Easter cactus fit in this category ???? Anyone?

Please Google "Epiphyllums" and see all that comes up. If you then click on "Images" in the left top tool bar--
this is what you get:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=qSM&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=Epiphyllums&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=830&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=XWePT6fAI8Oe6AHTjo2vBA

Have fun! it will be like a magical picture show...

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 19, 2012
11:56 AM

Post #9089033

Jberger1946 is what eBay calls me.

Gita, will look at that when I have time. No, I do not think CC and HC fit into that catagory. Will look it up when I have time. Sorry to be so short but I have so much to do before it rains. Later. JB
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 20, 2012
7:12 AM

Post #9089987

I was in my neighbors house yesterday (NO, I didn't break in. She was home and invited me! :-)) and she had a cactus that was at least 3-4' tall. I commented on it and she said it is a "Good Luck Plant". Anyone ever heard of one with that name? She gave me a start of one, just as big, that she had in her garage. It was not quite as perky from being in the garage, but quite strong. I have not potted it yet as I was letting the spot she broke it from heal over. I am going to do that today. When I do, I will post a pic.
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 20, 2012
9:58 AM

Post #9090227

JB et al, here is an article by Trish, Dave's wife that illustrates some great plant packing for mailing.

http://allthingsplants.com/articles/view/Trish/349/Camellia-Forest-Nursery-A-Review/

May start some threads on buying plants on line and what to watch for new disease wise when buying coleus, basil or impatiens this year. Just like food it is good to know and have a trusted source like your neighbor Crit or JB and Gita!

Crit, here is a link to a comprehensive "Growing Coleus" info. Coleus are tropical plants so their seeds need heat and light to germinate (not candidates for winter sowing).
http://s14.zetaboards.com/TGTA/topic/6599693/1/

edited to correct link to article on Camillia Forest Farms

This message was edited Apr 20, 2012 6:04 PM

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 20, 2012
11:10 AM

Post #9090308

Judy. the link to the article by Trish brings me to Stokes Tropicals. Is that where the article is?
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 20, 2012
11:58 AM

Post #9090381

Thanks coleup. I guess we were warm enough during the week we were in the 80's and one 90* to get them going because they have sprouted and put on their 2nd leaf. I just got lucky there! There were some that I started in the house in the Jiffy pellet greenhouse that I put some heat under. Don't remember for sure what it was that I had the heat on though. duh!

Does anyone know much about grown marigolds and 4 o'clocks from seed? Do they need cold before they will germinate? I have some in a peat pots but have only had 1 4 o'clock start. May have to stick them in the 'fridge?

I love you guys. A plethica of information!!!!!

Here is a pic of the cactus I got from my neighbor. Anyone recognize it? (first pic) The others are just some pics of some of my other cactus.

(Sorry for getting off topic, but you guys are so smart!)

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 20, 2012
12:11 PM

Post #9090400

Crit--

4O'Clocks come up all by themselves in droves! More than you would ever need.
They are just like MG's.
I do believe they like to spend the winter on the soils where they fell, and will come up
in due time.
I think I have grown the 4's just from seed inside as well. Soaking the seed may help.
They are very hard. Do the moist paper towels in a baggie thing.

I have LOTS of seed from 4's "Broken Colors" as well as from a smaller, lime green one.
I think I also have some seed for other 4's from past Swaps.

I'll bow to someone else's knowleadge on the Marigolds. Seems they are so simple...
I have a few seeds that came up from French MG's.

Gita
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 20, 2012
4:06 PM

Post #9090769

JB I fixed the Trish article link

http://allthingsplants.com/articles/view/Trish/349/Camellia-Forest-Nursery-A-Review/

For only having one eye, you are mighty good at spotting things! lol
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 21, 2012
4:13 PM

Post #9091999

Gita, thanks! I meant Morning Glory and 4 o'clocks. Sheesh. I did soak them all and have 2 4's coming up and that is it. Been in there over a week (the little Jiffy greenhouse). I would expect they
would be starting to do SOMEthing! I keep spraying with water and peroxide to keep the danger of damping off at bay.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 22, 2012
10:49 AM

Post #9092864

Gita, the little babies you sent me yesterday are still here in the house in their cups you sent them in. I have not had time to repot them since I left them rest and relax from their trip. The weather they are predicting is to be very windy and stormy and I had quite a few things to move into the greenhouse since they are being shipped Monday. I was afraid they would be ruined and they are all paid for. LOL. See you all later if we do not blow away. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 22, 2012
11:38 AM

Post #9092939

JB---

I brought the gardenia inside last night as well. It was so cold and windy.
Will keep her in today as well...still cool and raining away--all day.

I know Gardenias like a cool, bright spot--but how cold can they tolerate outside w/o any damage???
Besides--you probably had "her" in the G-House before you mailed her. Yes? No?

You do your thing re the CC's. I don't mean to rush you asking how they are doing.
They are in YOUR expert hands!!!! There will NOT be any problems!!!! So I shall believe...:o)

I would like to know just how you DO re-pot these little starts to have them grow bigger fast
so you can sell them. I still have oodles left to grow out. Mine seldom look great.

I need to know about pruning and pinching and feeding and how to hurry them up to grow into nice plants.
Should I pot them up in slightly bigger pots than 2"?
Cam Mushroom soil be added to "houseplant" soil mixtures--or is it a bit too manured???

Bugging you again--"She NEVER stops!!!!"...:o) Gita

Here is a novelty picture for you from 2010. This cutting decided to be a real trooper!!!!


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coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 22, 2012
4:03 PM

Post #9093235

I'm so proud of myself!

Was in a small garden center when I noticed a white flowering plant on the clearance table as an Easter Cactus! Even more impressive was that I was able to describe the difference between Easter and Thanksgiving cactus so that the clerk actually understood it.

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing as for $3.99 I brought it home!

Jojo, how's that Grandchild doing?

Crit, you can 'google' good luck cactus and come up with all sorts of pics and info.

One of the attendees at the May plant swap (Buttoneer) has 3 kinds of Rhipsalis she will bring to share. Near relatives of Schlums. So, my hands on education will continue.

Wouldn't it be fun if we could all in real life get together for a cutting /propagation bee?
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 22, 2012
5:58 PM

Post #9093394

Thanks coleup. I tried to do a search on plant files and got everything 'but' cactus!

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 23, 2012
7:21 AM

Post #9094121

Judy, if you have a white Easter Cactus it could be a Sirius. They are extremely popular , hard to find except at Logees. LOL., and are patented. It is a Rhipsalidopsis hybrid 'Sirius' p.p. Just saw it in the new Logee catalog and I bought one for my daughter last hear but it has not bloomed yet.
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 23, 2012
8:21 AM

Post #9094239

So, JB I can be doubly proud cause I may have a "rare" easter cactus to boot??!! I like the name sirius.

One thing I did notice that I didn't retain in my book knowledge of easter cacti is that these flowers close at night.

Here is a reference piece I found on easter cacti and I will add it to our reference list.

http://cactus-epiphytes.eu/z_page_les_cactus_de_paques_1.htm


Sure wish you were coming to the plant swap next month as you and Gita and I (and Ruby, Jill, Sallyg, Holly and others!} could have so much fun taking cutting from my mother plants that need rehoming! Maybe you could bring the "puppy" along!
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 27, 2012
10:43 AM

Post #9100046

Hello all,

Crit thanks for asking about the baby! She is more adorable and growing by the day!

I was wondering about the easter cactus, does anyone else have one.Do they like to be pot bound to bloom etc...

I agree about the epi/orchid cactus,I have a hard time figuring out what most people are talking about.
Not a lot of time lately.Everyone have a wonderful weekend our day's are in the 80's with night in the 50-60's
After cutting down all those tree's the shade isn't where it use to be so i'm doing a lot of plant shuffling outside trying to keep some in a little shade.

One more question should baby epi's leaf cutting's with about 1 new leaf and other's just coming out how much sun can they take?
Really going this time.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 27, 2012
11:30 AM

Post #9100094

jojoe--

Are you talking about Epis or Thanksgiving cactus? I ask because you talk about "1 new leaf and others just coming out".
Made me think you meant a CC.

Because Epis (Epiphytes) live high in the tree canopies in rain forests--they do not get a lot of light.
So--keep your Epis in filtered sun..maybe AM sun is Ok. Not the hot afternoon sun!

I don't think Easter Cactus or X-Mas cactus have deep roots at all. Kind of near the top and shallow.
So--it may take a long time before they were "root bound". However--I think they do like being a bit "tight"...
JB? What do you say?

I have a decent-sized Easter cactus--but it only had 4-5 blooms on it this year. Maybe because it was inside too long?
I was going to cut it back after it bloomed--but now I want to wait and see if it may bloom some more
to make up for the "not enough". If it doesn't--I may take some tip cuttings...Hate to mess with it too much.
It has taken years for it to get to this size. Don't want to set it back.

This is all it bloomed--inside. It is now outside.
Pic. #2 is from June last year. Much better!

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Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 27, 2012
11:31 AM

Post #9100095

Sally---Did your Baby Easter cactus bloom for you yet?

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 28, 2012
7:59 PM

Post #9101930

Shes addng leaves segments but no flowers yet

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 29, 2012
9:44 AM

Post #9102499

The greenhouse is now cleaned up and ready for me to start all over again. I had a week of cleaning and throwing things away and rearranging because I can not do it all at one time due to other things going on. I must get Gita
s plants repotted today for sure. They are happy but they need to be done. Jo, yours are ready to go into pots too.

I sold some things over the weekend but nothing exciting. Just "stuff". I will talk to you all later. I must get moving. Sunday around here this time of year is the same as any other day unfortunately. Have a great one. JB
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 29, 2012
11:15 AM

Post #9102591

Hello everyone,

In yall's opinion should i repot this easter cactus?Judging from the size of the plant & pot or is there other things i should go by to repot it.

Jo

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 29, 2012
11:31 AM

Post #9102611

NO! It looks good to me. Good proportion plant to pot.

Funny, how yours is so upright--and mine spills over the pot edges.
Yours seems very robust and firm. Very healthy looking.

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

April 29, 2012
12:39 PM

Post #9102713

I personally would not touch it at this time. Looks really good and healthy. JB
jojoe70
Thomson, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 30, 2012
4:08 PM

Post #9104449

thank you all very much,

The reason i was wondering was i'm having to water it daily.Every morning it's dry to the point of the dirt pulling away from the sides of pot,but it's not a cake.A trick my moma told me to look for when the cake is done it pulls away from pan LOL

It is outside in the shade most of the day except it does get some early morning sun.The temp have began to hit 90* so such a small pot would dry out from heat i guess and it does have new growth.

I have been looking for some super thrive since last summer and when walmart started stocking for spring they actually had some.I had heard to much about it i wanted to try it out.Every plant i water with it in starts growing new growth any plant i'm having a hard time with perks up.It says it's not a fertilizer to add to fertilizer.Does anyone ever used this product or know anything about?So far i haven't seen any bad side effects of using it now & then.
Jo

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

April 30, 2012
4:59 PM

Post #9104523

JOJOE-
Home Depot started carrying SUPERthive this year. It is a 70yr. old product.
NOT a fertilizer--but a conglomorate of vitamins and minerals that help plants root and thrive.

I bought some just recently. Can't report on anything yet--but I have heard all the "hype" on it and
believe in it. As little as a 1/4tsp per gallon is all it takes to work wonders.

Google SUPERthive and you will get a lot of information.

Here is one of the links... http://www.maibanbonsai.com/superthrive.aspx
Gita
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

April 30, 2012
7:14 PM

Post #9104723

Jo jo, cute Easter cactus!

I just got a white flowered Easter cactus so whenit's not good gardening weather outside I do a little research on my new plants and their requirements. As far as your questions are concerned here is what I found on the Matts Landscape Easter Cactus Care page
http://mattslandscape.com/rhipsalidopsis_info/

"When Do You Repot Rhipsalidopsis ?

Repot your Easter Cactus using fresh soil mix at least once a year to have deep green sturdy stem growth followed by several large bloom displays. Repotting should be done in mid-late Summer to Fall right after blooming has finished. If your Easter Cactus looks to have bad color in between this time repot it, repotting usually cures many ailments such as bacteria or muck in the bottom of the pots there planted in. At a minimum you Easter Cactus should be repotted at least once a year."

Note, he says should be whereas on the Thanksgiving/Christmas Care page he suggests repotting for them once per year be optional as long as plant is looking good and putting out new growth. Seems that Easter cacti prefer a bit richer potting medium than tc or cc and need their soil renewed...just one of those subtle differences.

If the soil in that pot is pulling away from the sides, I would say the soil is played out and should be replaced just like any plant mama would trust their instincts to do. Again, I'm just learning but I don't think you would hurt anything by changing out the soil it came in and possibly putting it in a slightly larger and/or deeper (taller) pot so there is more matter in the pot to absorb the water you give it which doesn't seem to be happening now . When soil shrinks away from the sides of the pot mor roots are exposed to drying conditions of heat and wind. Poor baby. I bow to those with more expertize than I. Be sure to keep your plant out of any direct sun and hot temperatures above 80 degrees until it recovers from "repotting (two to three weeks?).

You also asked when new cuttings/plants can be exposed to sun , so I will again quote Matt

" Never expose rooting or newly rooted Easter Cactus to full sun, only established plants, since without any extensive root structure present they are unable to draw up water from the soil for their water needs on hot days."

Hope this helps.

Judy

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

May 1, 2012
6:59 AM

Post #9105299

Judy--
That is an awesome link! I will, surely, bookmark it!

Also--it makes me want to re-pot mine. It has been in that pot for..maybe...3-4 years.
I wonder id I could add Mushroom Soil (I have plenty) to the new mix????

Otherwise--I will just go with my favorite--MG Potting Mix.

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

May 1, 2012
7:30 AM

Post #9105349

What is the fertilizer that comes in little balls that look like insect eggs? I can not remember the name. GRRR. JB
You just lay it around the plant on top of the soil.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

May 1, 2012
7:36 AM

Post #9105359

Osmacote? "Dynamite" also has slow-release fertilizers.

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

May 1, 2012
7:41 AM

Post #9105368

Do you use them for any of your houseplants Gita, or are they mostly used for outside nursery plants?

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

May 1, 2012
8:45 AM

Post #9105477

Hmmmm...

I have to say I use these mostly for outside plants. Always add to the potting mix as I concoct it
to pot up something.
Today--I will un-pot my old Angel Wing Begonia--toss the old roots and keep the nice new ones.
I will be adding Osmacote to the soil mix--for sure.
Same when I root-prune and pot up my old Brugs. They are begging to go outside.
Trying to get to things as much as I can. Have 2 BIG beds to dig up yet and amend, and plant.
Four of my smaller beds are all done, as well as my biggest pot of asst. plants in it.
This pot will sit on my decaying birch stump.

Maybe--if I am re-potting a lg, houseplant--I may sprinkle some Osmacote into the soil mix.
But--I seldom re-pot houseplants. I only have 3 large ones. The rest are small or in HB's.
Top dressing with this time-release fertilizer is easy to do.
OK! back outside--before the rains come. We had T-Showers overnight.

"Aimee" is doing OK. Had a few leaves yellow --pulled them off. Nothing serious.
She has been in and out with all this crazy weather. Her usual spot now is on my patio table in filtered light.
I AM keeping her watered...

Gita

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

May 1, 2012
2:35 PM

Post #9106040

Aimee will loose leaves off and on but as long as you keep her watered she will be fine. Any buds????Mine are full of buds and ANTS . My one big one has ants on one or two buds and I sprayed the heck out of them today again.
Ants and mealy bug make me crazy. Get rid of one and get the other.

I bought some Miracle Grow Shake and Feed Plus Moisture Control All Purpose Continuous Release Plant Food.
That is what is recommended for houseplants if you do not use the liquid. They do not recommend Oscomate or whatever it is for container plants.. LOL Just put that in your little book of things no one but you would give a hoot about. I have a file like that. I print stuff and stick it in the file and never can find it when I look for it. Must go. Have a good evening. JB
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

May 10, 2012
2:43 PM

Post #9118873

Hey, Crit

Happy Birthday Hope you are having a fabulous day and I wish you a year of calm and peaceful gardening weather and lots of wonderful flowers and plants to enjoy.

I guess this thread will be a little quiet while our holiday cacti and epi relatives take their repose out in our gardens. Wishing you all a great summer til bring in time comes round again. Hope all those cuttings grow fat and sassy!

Judy

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

May 10, 2012
3:56 PM

Post #9118965

Hi Judy and the same to you. Happy Birthday to Crit also. I was just thinking about coming on here and talking about taking cuttings and planting new cuttings. My GH is full of new plants for this coming Sept; and I have just removed the heater and have taken all the other plants outside to get some fresh air and hopefully it is warmer air.

I have not taken any of my CC outside because I am having all my decks floors redone and I did not want to move them twice. In fact, I am debating because I have no real shady place for them and I do not think they like that hot sun all day. Can we discuss where you all put yours when you put them outside in the summer?

Hope someone is still around, I will get lonely over the hot days. LOL JB

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

May 11, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9119910

Hi JB : ^)
I am lucky that I have shade trees near my house; I hang or set many houseplants under them. I see and enjoy them and also remember to water them. I do keep sun to semi sun lovers on the sides of my wide deck steps. They get several hours of morning to mid day sun, and pm shade. I guess I am very lucky to have such a nice place for my plants.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

May 11, 2012
12:22 PM

Post #9119994

You are very lucky sally. We have hundreds of trees on the farm but they are Christmas Trees...LOL...and the few others we have are not near my end of the house. I was thinking of putting some of mine under the one dog wood tree we have but then the slugs will take over. Not good. So,. maybe I will just keep them inside and keep the AC turned up higher. these decisions are really taking up a lot of my free time. LOL. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

May 11, 2012
1:37 PM

Post #9120057

JB--

I put my baby CC's right outside my front door on the "stoop"...
My house faces NE--so they never get any sun. Just bright shade. perfect!

In the back yard--I have the two lg. Maples providing dappled sunlight in the afternoon.
Then--I also have my covered patio--under which I keep a lot of my plants.

However--most of my potted up plants for the Swap are outside the patio protection and get a
good amount of sun--except the Brazilian Plumes and the Monkhshoods--which by now are about
a foot tall. So are the Chrysanthemum Pacificums. I pinched out the growing ends on those.
They will bush out better...The Foxgloves are going gung-ho as well. Seems everything is trying to
grow--but asking for "freedom" to do so. It has been a long time since I have had all these potted up!

The cannas are the slackers! Just seeing little spikes lately. Now I will bve able to, actually, tell which
are the dark-leaved ones--and which are the Green/Orange ones.

The Brug cuttings from last fall are all alive--but most of them have stopped growing.
I am sure they NEED serious potting up to thrive.
All the new cuttings I just took are rooted--no growth to speak of yet, though.

OK! Gotta go outside for a bit. Been cleaning my laundry room all day- What a mess!!!!

Tomorrow is my weekly "haul" in Outside Garden. Will have all the little ones potting up a flower for their Moms.
Hope enough people knew about that. I did make flyers--but they were not ready until Thurs. morning.
NOT my fault!!!! Management slacked...

Gita

Gita
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

May 21, 2012
9:47 AM

Post #9131959

My Dr. Suess Brug cuttings you sent me are doing pretty well. I have them outside now and am getting ready to set the pots into my "new" flower bed DH made for me!

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

May 31, 2012
6:10 AM

Post #9145887

The Mother's Day potting by children went over VERY well!
A BIG success...
48 kids did their thing. Ages 2-early teens. The little ones needed "selective" help...:o)
I brought the empty 6" pots and Bell donated a couple flats of annuals
(I chose Wax Begonias--durable).
At home, I made harts on a stick for the kids to put in their finished pots.
Went through a LG broken bag of MG potting soil.

Anyway--JB--Mostly I wanted to show you one of my baby CC's blooming pink.
These were from the broken off pieces I gathered off the rack of CC's at Lowes.
I new most of them were pink--but hey also had some other colors on there.

This is a uniform, gentle pink. The bloom is small--but then so is the plant. It is in a 2" pot.
I should have more of these. Right now they just have tags in them with ???? on them--and "Lowes".

Have a look-----

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

May 31, 2012
10:59 AM

Post #9146267

How cute are they? I have never had a year when so many Holiday cactus were still blooming at the end of May.
This is gardenia time for me and I still have an orange zygo cactus blooming. They just wont quit. LOL

That potting session with kids sounded like a really fun thing to do. You are to be complimented for your efforts and time. I hope you are appreciated by your boss.

I am not an annual fan as you know and this year I made up my mind my annuals will be few and far between. I planted six large containers (18 inch) and four 5 ft. long wooded containers and that is it. I have four hanging baskets also. It took me all morning to dead head and fertilize and water. I know now why I do not like annuals.
The hanging baskets took longer because they are a yellow and pink petunia and the weather has just been so hard on them. This is my last attempt to make them look nice. I am about to pitch them. I am tired of this weather. 90 deg. in May...really. Wind has been so bad anything hanging is taking a real beating.

Must get busy folding laundry. See you all later. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

June 14, 2012
7:11 PM

Post #9165549

JB---

I just wanted to show you the Gardenia you sent me. Don't get too excited...nothing much has changed.

It is still green and looks OK, but the bud never progressed past what it looked like when i got it.
Yesterday I touched the bud--and it fell off. The plant also has not made any new flower buds.

I have kept it watered, but maybe I am just not giving it good enough light.
I could move it to better sun--but i am afraid the squirrels will dig into it.

Nothing is wrong with the gardenia--it is just that it seems "frozen in time"...

Here are a couple of pictures...
#1--the flower bud
#2--The whole plant. Looks OK!

Is there something I should be doing????? Gita

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 15, 2012
11:04 AM

Post #9166334

Hi Gita, Mine bloomed this year but the blooms turned brown in a day or so on the bush. I have only taken a few cuttings because I think the stress of the greenhouse being so crazy this winter has affected the plants. My one little one that is the age of yours bloomed but only one bloom and the other two have not even pushed a bud. So, I do not think it is you or anything you are not doing. I even fed mine and it did not help. Hang in there, maybe we will get lucky and if the weather pemits, these plants may survive the stress.

I have a question for you. I am making an inventory list in ATP and in doing so, I have separated the plants into different catagories. I keep the CC in Schlumbergera trancata list and the Zygocactus trancata , etc. I submitted the one Peaches & Cream Zygocactus as a Zygocactus trancata and they rejected it saying in their database it is a trancatus. I think that is the masciline of trancata and if they have the male in the database, why now put the female in which is trancata. BESIDES,,,I do not know if Cacti have genders. Help me work this out in my mind please.

Do you know anything about trancata vs trancatus?

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

June 15, 2012
11:59 AM

Post #9166419

JB--

Sorry! I have never gotten involved in the "innards" or Species, or genders of plants.

Thanks for the reassurance that my gardenia is just having a "tizzy-fit"
It looks great--but has NOT moved on one bit from the size or state that I received from you.

Gave it a mild Seeweed fertilizer today. Also--plan to keep it in a bit better sunlight.
I always worry that the frolicking squirrels will just play with the pot and tip it over.
They seem to enjoy doing that...

My chair cushions are often all over the floor of my patio. I have watched them from my BR window...
They crawl under them and over then and just seem to have a "ball" playing with the,
It is hilarious!!!

How are you doing?????? We do not see much of you any more...
Of course--IF you are spending time on "OTHER" Web Sites...Ahem...there goes all your energies...

Hope you are enjoying this wonderful weather...Love, Gita

Lookie here!!!! This is my Red Epi!!! Gonna have a show to envy!!!

Gita

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 15, 2012
2:26 PM

Post #9166619

Hey I am full of envy on that baby. My Disocactus x hybridus looks so much like that. That is the one I inherited and did not know what it was, I had it identified on Cactiguide finally.

I have been on eBay mostly because I opened the store again and I need to keep plugging away to sell stuff in order to make the expenses. I also have been planting cuttings, etc. and my greenhouse is full. I even have some of your stuff to put on the inventory and I identify it as Gita's whatever. I give credit where credit is due. When it is all finished I will let you take a look. LOL Your plants you gave me look good. Besides, I do not know the names of anything people send me so I use their names.
I am also trying to keep up with my pot cleaning and the bird cages and the house, you know the drill. The new dog is getting on just great. My oldest cousin just had a 3 way by pass last week and he is now in a nursing home in PA.
Nothing gets easier. He is 93. His sister is 91 and she is on the phone all the time wanting to know what is going on. She forgets she calls me and she calls again. Oh God. I hope I do not loose it like that.
Off topic here, sorry. just have my hands full here on the farm just now. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

June 15, 2012
5:44 PM

Post #9166842

JB---

You are NEVER off topic!!!!
This is YOUR Thread and you are allowed to talk about anything you want.

I deal better calling my Epis #1----or #2...

The one about to bloom all over is #1. All that means is that it was the 1st to bloom many years ago.
Epi #2--just bloomed for the 1st tome last year. I sent pictures all over the place.
She is about to bloom again. There are MANY buds forming.
It scares me a bit=--as I keep thinking it is their "Swan Song". Not used to such lavish displays of blooms...

Perhaps--they have reached a state of total root-boundedness and are now blooming...

I am happy! Don't quite know why?????? Not much in my garden impresses me---or, maybe I do not allow it to...

Love my Epi blooms, though. Such a rare treat.

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

June 17, 2012
8:08 AM

Post #9168610

My little Christmas cactus fruits have hung on and now turned bright pink. I'll have to look up what to do and when with the fruits.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 17, 2012
11:15 AM

Post #9168808

Sally, I thought someplace we discussed that because I had one on my old fuchsia plant and I watched it. I remember laughing because it was like a year or more before it could be planted. Darn it, I wish I could remember what I did with those notes. If I find them I will certainly let you know.

Gita, you just have a big green thumb. Pot bound too maybe, but big thumb. Have a good day. JB

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 17, 2012
11:53 AM

Post #9168832

Gita, You sent me the cuttings this past Spring and they all look great. I want to put them on my inventory as Plants from Gita, on ATP and I would like to have pictures I could use for them. You sent me the pink and the salmon.
Can you email them to me to my email addy please.
Jberger431@aol.com

I will be sure the pictures are not used without your permission. Thanks. Gotta run. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

June 17, 2012
5:30 PM

Post #9169252

JB--

I am NOT concerned if you use my pictures--permission granted! Any time...I am nor proprietary...

You want the Salmon and the Fuchsia/white? Is that what you call pink?
OR--Is it the small pink one that just bloomed??? Kind of uniform, medium pink.

The pink one I got from collecting broken off pieces from the rack at Lowes.

Will wait to hear back for sure--then i will send you the pictures...OK?

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 18, 2012
6:49 AM

Post #9169791

Geeze Gita, You had it marked PINK on the tag. I just assumed that was the color. I guess maybe we will have to wait until they bloom. LOL

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

June 18, 2012
7:32 AM

Post #9169831

JB--

I may have sent you some of the broken off cuttings I collected.
There were only pink CC's on that cart--so i assume that the broken off pieces were pink.

The only "pink" CC that has bloomed for me is the little one I posted above on my May31 post.

Will send you the pics of the salmon one and the little pink one too. Choose the one you like best.

Gita

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

June 19, 2012
6:43 AM

Post #9171342

Here's a link for CC from seed.
http://www.rainyside.com/archives/BreedingXmasCactus.html

But honestly I don't know that I am this interested! Long long process.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

June 19, 2012
6:55 AM

Post #9171366

That is why I gave up on the seed bit. No thanks. I may not live that long. LOL

Gita, got the pictures downloaded fine. Thanks so much. I will let you know where and when they go up.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

June 19, 2012
8:57 PM

Post #9172326

Gita, the salmon starts you sent me are doing great and putting on new sections!
coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

August 26, 2012
8:14 AM

Post #9254200

A big wonderful Happy Birthday to you JB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope your summer has gone well.

Lets catch up with each other's doins everybody, and how our holiday cacti are enjoying the great outdoors, Mine look like they hve about doubled in size! Arms are over a foot long! Yipes.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 26, 2012
12:21 PM

Post #9254444

Thanks for the Bday wish, not sure how you knew, but it is so nice of you. I have had a wonderful day so far, it began early this morning like 2 a.m. when my friend from Alberta Canada emailed me and it came thru on my cell phone next to my bed. Then my son, daughter, step kids, etc. all called starting at 6 a.m. My kids try and see who can be the first to wake me on my birthday. I do the same for them and it is really fun except you do not get much sleep that morning. Funny how you do things when your kids leave home for the first time and it becomes a tradition.
My plants look like they are going to outgrow the pots before I sell them. They are so big. Those Salmon of Gita's are really monster plants,. Beautiful and healthy looking. I have some Tea Rose Begonias that are super great looking and healthy as can be. Everything is doing well but now I noticed for the very first time, mealy bug on my house cactus. Never saw that before and there are no other plants but cactus in the house just now. Where do those little devils come from? They do not like moisture and I think because the houseplants do not get watered as much when the AC is running and they tend to dry out more in between watering, that is what happens..the mealy bugs return. I can not water more or they will rot without humidity in the house. That is the problem with my plants, I have too many and they are all over the place in different environmental settings.
I have decided not to cut the Aimee Gardenia this year. I think both the mother plants need a rest. I took one or two cuttings and they did not survive. That tells me something for sure. On the other hand, the Jasmine Sambac Maid of Orleans is thriving and the cuttings are doing well. Sorry off topic here. Got carried away.
Must go and get some things done before I go to dinner with my daughter and son in law. Birthday Treat. My kids and their spouses bought me a 32 inch TV for my bedroom. Now I can see it without my glasses and I love it. My son is in PA so they will not be going to dinner with us, it will make it too late for them and they both must work tomorrow. I am rambling off topic again. What a day. Love you all. Later, JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

August 26, 2012
7:30 PM

Post #9254827

OH, JB! I must be more attending to whose Birthday it is.
That information appears on everyone's home page--if you scroll down on the right.

Happy, Happy Birthday--hope you had a nice day.

My small CC's are doing well--but none can compare to your description.
Is it because you have a G-H.? Mine sit in front of my front door--facing North--and seem to be doing well.
I transplanted them all earlier this summer in 4" pots, and they really burst forth after that,

When my pink ones bloom--I will be able to tell which ones are what.
I will send you some--OK? Right now--they are all just putting on new growth--slowly...

yes! The salmon ones seem to be very robust. Very stiff, upright stems. Good plant to have...

Your gardenia is still status quo. Maybe a bit more growth at the tips--but NO flower buds at all.
I had a very hard plant-summer this year. Spider Mites got to everything and chewed up everything.

I sprayed and sprayed----even the gardenias...with NEEM. But--according to all ther DG'ers,
one is NOT supposed to spray with NEEM in hot weather...
My Brugs leaves were all chewed up as were my old, large Burning Bushes. BAD--BAD summwe!!1

My Tomatoes had early Blight. Lost most of their leaves. No fruit to speak of...WHY do I bother???

We have been discussing this ad infinitum here--and I do not know WHY on Earth do I even need to grow Veggies??

I am getting tired of all these diseases--and not being able to do anything much about them...

Well--Must send you a bloom for your Birthday. Happy Birthday!

Deep pink Sitka Rose taken in Alaska in 2007 when I was here...
The fragrance is to die for!!!! Lots of history of how it got here from the Russian settlers.
Just Google Sitka Rose...

Gita

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 27, 2012
7:50 AM

Post #9255319

Hi Gita Girl, I am sorry you are having problems with the gardenia. but, if it makes you feel any better I am sure the three I have left from that same batch have chlorosis, every darn one of them. They were outside in the rain and I brought them in but it was too late...they are all turning yellowish and I have sold one, which I am shipping today and then I am refunding her money for the plant because I can not sell a plant that I have my doubts about. She can pay the shipping because the plant really does not look all that bad, but I know it is not perfect, so she will get a refund. I have been treating them with iron for days but they do not seem to be responding. They could be pot bound too. Oh darn.
It just was such a hard summer. Today it is hot and humid again and so difficult to know whether to water in the GH or just let them go.
Speaking of tomatoes, I planted two stalks. They grew and producted some fruit, but last year we plowed over the old plants and they came up this year and were ignored because they were in with the glads, and now they are producing the most beautiful and sweet tomatoes you want to taste. My one plum plant is producing out of shape plum fruit. Looks like H. but tastes good. Can you imagine?
My God it started to rain like a tropical pouring rain. The sun was out a second ago. GRRRRRR My shoes are on the deck. Crap. Gotto go and thanks for the Birthday Wishes. JB

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

August 30, 2012
7:14 PM

Post #9259922

JB---

Long time no hear or write...Hope you are OK!

I took some pictures of your gardenia. Overall--it is surviving OK.
NO buds...and not too much new growth. It seems to be getting a tiny bit more leafy--
at he top as well as from the bottom.
Nothing spectacular. Status quo. All the leaves have the darker veins on the lime colored leaves.
Is that an Iron deficiency? Will post a couple of pictures below.

I did re-pot it a month or more ago. Now it lives in an 8"pot.
Have NO Idea what I should expect of it--nor what is good--or "normal" as it is now.

CC's are growing well. Hoping most of them will bloom--and I will then send you some of the pink ones
and the white ones (not sure on these...)...I just have some marked as "white" from my scrounging
around the racks at Lowes. Can't wait to see them all bloom--so I know what is what.

OK! Here are some pictures of the gardenia.
What's with the pale, chewed up leaves in picture #2?
Also--is the dark veining normal (pic. #1) ? Or is it lacking something. I am keeping it well watered--
and it gets good AM light for half the day.

Gita

edited to add that this pot sits under the roof of my patio--so extreme rain does not fall on it.
All the watering I give it is the only source of moisture...

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 31, 2012
6:09 AM

Post #9260218

Hi everyone, sorry to be gone so long but duty calls and I had things to do that took me away from this computer, plus the computer is not behaving and I need to replace it. More bucks gone down the tube. Ayhow,
Gita, the gardenia needs some iron on the leaves and in the soil. Mine were out in rain for weeks and they got too much water, then I brought them in the GH and they turned yellow with the green lines through, I sold one, it looked so bad I told the woman I will refund her money but I can not sell a plant that looked like that. I began treating it really aggressively and it looks pretty good. I am going to give it to her and she is paying for the shipping. The plant is healthy, just not as pretty as it should be. She is delighted. I am wondering if they are potbound again. Their roots grow fast and I think maybe mine are ready to go into 12 inch pots. They are in 8 now.
You may want to give it some epson salts too and some fish emulsion if you have any. I really loaded mine with all three and there is a definite improvement but I do not know which one made the difference or was it the combination of the three. Mine bloomed very early and then even the big ones did not bloom very much but I had been taking cuttings for two years so what can I expect.

The CC look great and all those you sent me seem to be much more stronger and larger than the ones I got from other sources. They also take root faster. I am going to have a great variety when these all decide to bloom, then some of them can be identified. LOL
I will be back later, I must go into town and do some errands. Hope you are all well and happy. Hope to get back to you soon. Knee deep in trying to sell some of these plants. I put two classifieds on DG with a special to DG members...so far nothing.
Both are very nice plants. Big for their size. I have them in 3" pots and when I put them in 5" the prices go up.

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

August 31, 2012
6:12 AM

Post #9260222

I've recently rad tyhat fish emulsion is really good for the good soil fungus, and that shrubs for one like those good soil fungus.

Gita, my red Epi has shot out some really long arms this summer. You'll see it soon!

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

August 31, 2012
6:48 AM

Post #9260256

JB--

I have Epsom Salts and I have a seaweed fertilizer as well as Fish Emulsion.

I also have some old Ironite. Would that help? What other products contain Iron?
Do you believe in the "old, rusty nails stuck in the soil"? ..:o)

My small CC's are getting to be a good size as well. They have all been now in 4" pots.
They sit on my front porch and never get sun--just nice, bright shade.
One thing that may hinder their blooming is that there is a porch light right above them
which is on all night. Not a bright light--just 40W in an old, rusty fixture.
At what time should they have complete darkness to set bloom?
I could put a box over the plant stands these sit on.

I have also started several 4" pots of the red Easter cactus. Not sure yet how far they are with the rooting...
Nothing has died--so holding my fingers crossed...

#1 and #2 here are the CC's...on my front porch right by the door.
#3 is my Easter Cactus starts. Should be good to go by next spring's Plant Swap.
***The bigger one sitting off to the right is a White Easter Ccactus that coleup shared with Sally and me.
I just ripped the root ball in half. MAN! That thing had a serious root system!

Thanks! It was nice to hear from you again... Gita

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coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

August 31, 2012
4:40 PM

Post #9260875

All of my plants seem to enjoy fish emulsion. Yep, love that soil fungus microbial community.!

I bit the bullet and took some pics of my first holiday cacti today.

Pic 1 White easter cactus in 8" pot (sitting on garden chair for size comparison) This is the one Gita references in her pic 3 above as having quite a root system.

Pic 2 is a pink version also in an 8 inch pot

Pic 3 a branch of each...note the white is twice the size of the pink!

Edited to add my apologies for only being able to post pics that can't be fully enlarged at this time. Thanks, Judy

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

August 31, 2012
6:18 PM

Post #9260975

Judy---

Interesting--how some CC's are more robust than others...
I find that of all mine--the salmon one is the most robust. The red one is a close second...

Havw not yet seen the pinks and whites bloom--whose broken off cuttings I scrounged from racks
at Lowes and HD.

I will definitely post when any of these bloom--and JB will have the first pick.

Gita

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

September 2, 2012
7:43 AM

Post #9262245

You guys need to tell me if you want any of the colors I have. I certainly will share them with you. I can send you cuttings of all of them. If you are looking for something in particular, just tell me the name or color and I will see you get them. Also, the pink could be a hybrid of a .S. RUSSELLIANA X S. TRUNCATA that was considered one of the original Christmas Cactus. the pink I have and sell as a russelliana has very think leaves. I hope I have ID it correctly. I would hate to mislead anyone. It as beautiful fine small leaves and looks so petite compared to the others, yet the plant is large and healthy. In the horse business we would describe it as having "fine" or maybe a flower would be dainty? You get the idea I am sure.


Must get out there and water. This 90 deg. heat is a mess again. Later. JB

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Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

October 8, 2012
1:44 PM

Post #9299800

Hello all. Been gone a while. So nice to see your cc are doing well. I had some problems with mine this summer, shriveling (maybe didn't water enough in the heat), branches falling off, etc. But the good news is, I was able to save quite a few of the pieces and they are growing. Still small, but starting.

Sorry to hear about gardenia troubles. I was just sick when I lost my big one! I have a frost proof one that did so well this spring, it bloomed like crazy. Then it got sooooo hot, and I was down in my back. Couldn't go out and water. It's leaves all turned brown except for 1 or 2. I have been watering it and I think it may pull out, but I am going to have to cut it back.

coleup ... are you going to have any coleus starts this fall? If so, please keep me in mind. I LOVED the ones that I got from you a couple falls ago. Tried to save them over the winter but lost them. There was one really pretty purple leaf with sort of scalloped edges I loved.

Well, take care all. Lots more threads to catch up on!

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

October 8, 2012
2:38 PM

Post #9299830

JB--
Good to see you are OK! We all survived this hot summer--even if some of the plants did not.

I was, actually, going to write you tonight. WHY? Because "birder17" sent me 5 small, thin cuttings
if a real CC. I do not know the color--will D-mail her back and ask.

Today, I spent potting up all the Easter cactus cuttings that have been languishing all summer.
Not rooting...getting all dessicated. It is my own fault. This summer, after it bloomed, I took a lot
of cuttings and thought it was a great idea to pot them all up in straight Coir. NOT!!!
They were forever dry--the Coir just wicking all the moisture out. Besides being in clay pots,
they just petered out. Not dead--but many of the sections were limp thin as paper, and all wrinkled.

So, I spent half a day today un-potting them from the Coir--sorting them out--twisting off a LOT
of the dead ends, and re-potting them in pro Mix. man! That took forever!!!
Just hoping that being in something organic they may recover.
The old mama Easter cactus was also in very sad shape. Did the same thing...hope she recovers.
They are now inside. The Holiday cactus are all still outside--except the ones that were also struggling...

With these cold nights we are now having, slowly but surely, something will be coming in now and then.

Here are my new CC babies from Birder. I hope they do well. The cuttings were in excellent condition.
I put a small bow on it just for the picture----after all--they ARE a Christmas Cactus.

Gita

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coleup
annapolis, MD
(Zone 7b)

October 8, 2012
8:12 PM

Post #9300177

Glad you and JB and Gita are back! Every time I'd think how horribly hot summer was here, I'd hear something worse out of Oklahoma. Seriously it is amazing that as much survived that did.

Evidently, it is part of survival statedgy for cc s to drop branches when stressed.

Don't think I'll have any coleus this year but if I do, you are first on my list!

Gita, hope you cuttings take well in your tried and tru what works for you method after trying coir.

JB, when I have a place to properly care for them I'll ask you for one of each color!

Hope everything fits back in for all for the winter.

Judy

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
6:18 AM

Post #9300393

Judy--I always turn up--like a bad penny...:o)

My half of the white Easter cactus, that I ripped in half at sally's, has been really OK all summer.
It still has those little "nubs" at the tip of each segment. What are those??? Seed pods???
Remnants of the flower??? What...

I now have 10 small, clay pots with red Easter Cactus starts in it--hopefully, they will all root now.
There just was nothing organic in the Coir to make this happen. Such a drying medium!
Maybe it works better mixed INTO another medium--NOT used by itself.

I hope they all take too. My biggest concern is whether the dessicated, somewhat drier segments will
re-plump (new word??) as they root. Will try to keep them a bit drier.

I remember last spring, that the Mama plant was looking a bit shabby throughout the winter and spring,
but when it got close to blooming time, it really plumped up. It actually had its first blooms
while still inside. Then, bloomed again outside later on. It is such a pretty plant when blooming...

Just took this picture of the white Easter cactus you gave me.
I did not realize how much new growth it had put on during the summer.
Do you see the "nubs" i am talking about? What are they???

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Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
6:25 AM

Post #9300399

JB---

Just asking---------
Do you think it may be a good idea to start a new "Holiday Plants Discussion Part #6 Thread ??"

We are approaching a new Holiday Season and there will be a lot of talk about this, and other
Holiday plants. Since we have already covered so much in the past 5 Threads re CC's--maybe
we could include discussion of other Holiday Plants in this new Thread.

What do you all think?

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

October 9, 2012
7:26 AM

Post #9300459

Gita, I also wonder about those nubs, Glad you asked...I still have nubs too.

By the way- I fertilized some flowers on a CC last year. They all formed those bright pink fruits. (pink C if that matters). The fruits stayeed on all summer and were very decorative. The germination and growing sounds too long for my interest but the fruits were easy to create and neat to have.

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Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
7:34 AM

Post #9300465

Sally--

Would you agree with my suggestion above?? There are so many other Holiday plants
we all see. Poinsettias, Kalanchoes, Paperwhites, Amaryllis, Ivies, Hollies, etc...

There seems to be a lack of Threads at this time. 'Tis that time of year.
Any ideas to some new Threads that would light the fire a bit on the MAF?
Create some more interest to chat away?

G.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
7:35 AM

Post #9300466

UP UP AND AWAY...WE ARE OFF TO THIS NEW LOCATION:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1284057/

Check in so we know we did not loose anyone. Newbies are welcome. See you there.

Sally, do you have a picture of those "nubs"?????

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
7:38 AM

Post #9300472

Talk about whatever you want to, no big deal, just do not forget our little darlings. I do agree there are some really exciting Holiday plants but I have no room to add them, I have no objection if you want to discuss then here or start your own thread. Up to you all.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

November 1, 2012
2:26 PM

Post #9322131

Birder---
I will answer you more in a couple of days. Meanwhile--if you go to the very top of thisThread. then to the second
post by coleup--she has all the links in there to everything...

I cannot believe, that out of all of them, you chose the one in French...

Here are 4 that I thought you may like the best. These are from the bunch coleup posted above.

http://cactus.biology.dal.ca/paulS/christmas/christmas.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlumbergera

http://mattslandscape.com/schlumbergera_growing/

http://mattslandscape.com/rhipsalidopsis_info/


Be well and i so appreciate you caring about me. I am a tough old goat! Just roll with whatever comes along...

Gita

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