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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

February 25, 2012
8:59 PM

Post #9020189

While I was out driving yesterday I decided to take some photos of Amorphophallus paeoniifolius which is quite common around here.

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

February 25, 2012
9:20 PM

Post #9020197

That's not enough to OD on so here's some more

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

February 25, 2012
9:23 PM

Post #9020198

And finally, one of the plants was setting seed, which you don't see often.

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tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

February 25, 2012
9:45 PM

Post #9020207

very cool tropic!!! checked out where youre at in australia..
temps stay in a narrow range there..is that right?
i bet alocasias do well there...???
lucky u !!!
im growing a hybrid of alocasia robusta..from lari ann..
it got over 5ft last summer.. hope to double that this summer
in noonamah.. i bet u could grow a giant.. and a true robusta..
sigh..
again..im jealous..
do u have to watch for crocs???
again.. much thanks for the amorph pics!!!!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

February 29, 2012
1:52 PM

Post #9024856

The climate here is Equatorial Savanna, so basically hot wet wet season, then a distinct hot dry dry season. Nights are cooler in the dry season and humidity is lower during the day. So watering/irrigation has to make up the difference to grow plants from Equatorial Rainforest climates.

There's a problem here on my place for Alocasias. Friends can grow them quite large but I have some sort of pathogen in the soil which doesn't kill them but causes a rot in the tuber. The rot is slow so the plants keep going but stay small. Originally I brought in a lot of very large A. macrorrhizos from where I was growing them on another place. Within a couple of years they were all dwarfs. Now any Alocasia I get stays in a pot out of contact with the ground. And those that like to sit in water are okay as well. There's always some sort of 'serpent' around whichever paradise you're in.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

February 29, 2012
2:58 PM

Post #9024928

bummer on the soil pathogen..:( where the A.robusta is truely a
tropical wondered if u could do well with it there..
bummer..
ya.. here in utah we have an occasional rattlesnake..not in town
so much..but near the desert..or mts..for sure..
glad we dont have some 20' gater though.. LOL
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 29, 2012
6:49 PM

Post #9186839

tropic..?? have you grown any of the other "huge" amorphs.. similar to titanum..
i understand hewitti, gigus, decus-silvae can get huge as the famous titanum..
??
being ocd..and never wanting to say no to some new plant..LOL
i see hewitti, and titanum come up for sale on ebay often..
but not gigus, or decus-silvae..
if im reading correctly..these other 3 are similar in growing conditions as the
titanum..??
good compost,well draining soil.. warm,humid conditions.. ??
boy can ya say im hooked.. LOL
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 30, 2012
5:34 AM

Post #9187200

The biggest I've grown so far are those paeoniifolius. Titanum will probably get taller than those soon. But all the rest are smaller species. He's a photo of a decus-silvae I saw in the Flecker Botanic Gardens in Cairns. It was growing in an amazingly small pot (for the size of the plant). I almost got a gigas a couple of years back but the seller decided against selling it.

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tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 30, 2012
4:58 PM

Post #9187981

wow.thats some stalk,height to that decus-salvae.. !!
and btw.. never tire of your pics ..so hope you keep it up !!!! :)
im thinking my biggest konjac would be taller than they are..but i have them
in alot of sun..even though the stalk is really thick (relatively) and no burning
on the leaves..i have moved them to a spot that they get semi shade from 1pm on..
i think i heard them singin out there ..the next day..LOL
much thanks tropic!!!!!!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 30, 2012
7:57 PM

Post #9188233

I'm not sure but I don't think konjac is all that tall a grower. It gets a huge tuber, and the petiole/stalk gets thick. But overall I don't think that genetically it's geared to great heights. You'll need to get hold of some of those other species.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

June 30, 2012
8:12 PM

Post #9188244

for sure tropic.. im thinking..maybe what i should do..
is have a dome put over my entire property.. have solar heating,humidity..
and i can just live in a tropic dome..but still live here..
LOL
i guess i'll have to make it pretty tall..with all my bananas..
and hopefully get titanum big too..
LOL
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

June 30, 2012
9:05 PM

Post #9188304

Building a shade or green house is a double edged sword. You protect the plants but you reduce the light intensity. In reducing the light intensity you encourage the plants to grow taller. So then you have to have a taller shade/green house.
tropicalnut777
Provo, UT
(Zone 5a)

July 1, 2012
7:59 AM

Post #9188583

lol..so well said and concluded.:)
i consider myself a newbie with amorphs..and there is so much
im learning to make my ever growing collection happy campers..
:)
i know the so called "easier to grow" species mostly from java.. i think im getting
a good handle on.. i know to get larger,less stressed plants i can provide with less
effort from me..
the 2nd groupings "more difficult to grow" species mostly from sumatra/borneo/indonesia
i know im going to be more challenged..
but that doesnt discourage me.. :) why would it to any of us garden enthusiasts..
i am so grateful to you tropic..and the many others that post your personal experiences,and
professional/academic learning on these facinating amorphs !!!
youve posted tropic your own frustrations with providing some of your amorphs a "happier"
environment by placing them in under shade cloths..only to have mother nature to throw
you a wild card.. sigh. :)
maybe thats why we are so thrilled and pleased with ourselves when we are sucessful despite
all that is put in our way to suceed..??? :)
another hot day today.. probably will hit 100F today.. no rain.. sigh :( fires everywhere
here in utah..

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