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Australian and New Zealand Gardening: BROMELIADS FOR NOVICES & ADDICTS MARCH 2012

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perke_patch

March 4, 2012
5:40 AM

Post #9029162

Hi all. This is my first time starting a new thread so I hope I am doing it right. We came from here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1240908/

Wendy

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 4, 2012
5:57 AM

Post #9029182

Beautiful brom bloom Wendy and an excellent start to a new thread.
Marking it so I can follow you good folks. Good Morning and Good Night!

Cryptanthus ~ High Voltage (not the best photo) but in bloom.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 4, 2012
12:02 PM

Post #9029639

Well done Wendy. I was going to have a go but I'm not very confident about putting up the marker to show where to go so I thought that I would leave it for someone who did know. 127 pups, Nev. mmmmm looks as though the new SH might become a priority. lol. I was out looking at my broms again yesterday and they are looking so good. I have one of the neo thunderbird crossed with? [can't remember at the moment] and it is about 15" high now and the colour gets better everyday. Will take a pic later. You can see the difference in them since we've had a bit of rain I reckon. They are going to love being watered with the water from the tanks I think.Tash I hope that your computer problems are restored soon. Must be a real inconvenience out for so long. Well time to make school lunches. I hope everyone is well and happy bromelading. colleen

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

March 4, 2012
1:20 PM

Post #9029698

Good job on the new thread!!
my Vris. is getting another flower? i tried to grow the last lot of seed with no luck.
I love this little dyckia.
My new broms.. Luna and Carcharodon tiger

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 4, 2012
1:50 PM

Post #9029726

Found my way here after looking at some mouth watering broms in the last thread. Oh Wendy, put me down for the mini Shamrock too. Its lovely.

I decided to take the pup from my neo. Predatress yesterday as the mother is looking very poorly, only to find a second pup still way too young to remove yet. So I guess she gets a dose of fertilizer and I wait for the second pup to grow. Also found pups on Piemento and Blushing Tiger, and a few other small pups on other plants. All good news. Nothing has gone to seed though (that I can find in the neo's).

Barry has started clearing another part of the jungle down the back behind the shed. If I can get some shelving to put up it will make a great home for broms not needing too much sun. They will have to go up on shelves as when it rains, the water gushes across the back like a river.

Will do some more pupping and potting today as one of the larger noid neo's has been setting pups madly, and they grow so fast I can't keep up with them. Wendy, you did give me the name once, but I don't know what I did with it. This is the pic, but now the pups have pups too.

Karen




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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 4, 2012
1:59 PM

Post #9029742

Seems I can't put pics from Photobucket here. If I can find the pic in my files I'll put it up.
Karen


DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 4, 2012
2:10 PM

Post #9029765

Found it. Sorry about the messy post.
Karen
Noid with pups on pups...

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 4, 2012
3:18 PM

Post #9029819

Here's the pic of Neo. thunderbird X Neo. avalon. and some pics of my special babies. Nev, do you think the last pic is Bil. "Kip"? Colleen

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 4, 2012
4:51 PM

Post #9029931

Good morning everyone,

I posted this on the old thread this morning and in case anyone didn't visit it I'm posting it again here.

When I saw the sun shining yesterday morning and felt a slight North Easterly breeze blowing, I decided to try and cut the back grass. My wife had done a load of washing earlier and hung it on the line hoping for a fine day, but I had to wait until the grass had dried out a bit. About mid morning the clouds were coming over again and I decided to cut the grass there and then. I’d just got everything ready when the young bloke who used to cut our grass dropped in just in time to save my old back by offering to cut the grass for us. No sooner had he started and fine rain started to fall. Fortunately this was short lived and as well as cutting the back grass, he did the front also and now everything’s starting to look reasonably tidy again. He had just put the mower away and down came the rain again and it’s been raining all night, but again not raining this morning.

Wendy – Dead leafing seems a never ending job with brom’s but it’s sure a good way to get to know your plants better and often pick up little problems before they become major issues. I’ve recently finished doing all the Neo’s and now the Vrieseas need to be done, at least they are smooth leaved and don’t start my arms bleeding like I've been attacked by some vicious animal.

Neo Blushing Tiger is a well known “selfer” and I think everyone who has it has at some time tried a bit of seed, and however even though some of the offspring are sometimes barred, I haven’t seen anything as good as the parent show up locally yet, but then you’ll never, never, know if you don’t give it a go!

I have a little Neo ampullacea ‘Black Beauty’ which “selfs” regularly also, and as you say they are very quick to germinate and I’ve found them to grow much quicker than the standard Neo’s also.

No doubt there are dozens of plants in your collection that I would like but unfortunately I always try and commit the names to memory and don’t go to write them down until I’ve forgotten and it’s too late. I’ll send you a wish list of plants I’m chasing as I just usually stick them all on a “wish list” meaning to write the name of the owner beside them but never seem to get around to doing it, and there may be some on the list that you have to swap.

I really do like your little mini Neo ‘Shamrock’ you’ve posted this morning, so when you get a spare pup put my name on it please. The other recent “want” that springs to mind, is Neo ‘Lime and Lava’ that Colleen posted a pic of a few days back.

As for the Bill’s, I haven’t gone through them all yet to sort out what’s available to swap and sell and what I want to keep, but one that does spring to mind is one of the older ones called Billbergia ‘Kip’, it is a plant that really makes a “statement” in the garden; and I’ve seen it grow to almost a metre tall. It’s a light brown colour with spotting and when given good light, it seems to get a beautiful pink cast through it. Grown in the shade it’s a most uninteresting dull green. I’ll see if I can find a pic and email it to you.

I also know I have spares of two beautiful rather large growing species; Bill. macrocalyx and Bill. rosea (see the FCBS Photo Index for a good selection of pic’s) These are what is commonly referred to as the “watch spring” types because of their tightly curled petals.

Thanks for starting the new thread and I’ll post this here in answer to your questions and I’ll also put it on the new thread as well if no one has posted anything there yet.

Now to finish with a few pic’s of my Neoregelias.

No.1. Neo. ‘Blast’, No. 2. Neo. Concentrica x (Charm x Cracker Jack) seedling, No. 3. Neo. ‘Heck’, No. 4. Neo. ‘Marble Snow’, No. 5. Neo. Marmorata (hybrid)

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 4, 2012
5:02 PM

Post #9029949

Hi all,

another weekend over, another week without any progress on the shadehouse. What little spare time we had last week was spent mowing and pruning and mowing and more mowing. And now, of course, it’s raining and is predicted to do so for the rest of the week … yippee!! … then there’ll be more grass to mow. Colleen, what you said about the shadehouse work never being finished rings true but our problem at the moment seems to be getting started.

Nev, called into Bunnings yesterday to see if they had the plastic hangers but they had only the chain type at about $3.00 each. I did manage to leave there without buying any plants although they had a lovely big vriesea gigantea that was very tempting … but I resisted.

Then went across the road to Masters (just to look) and bought some frangipani trees which were discounted by 50% - got four in all, Darwin Blood, Darwin Yellow, Kimo and Tricolour. Will pot them up today since there is little else I can do outside. I may even have to resort to housework … I hate that, but I'm fast running out of excuses !!!

Nev, I checked out Garden City Plastics as you suggested. They are on the other side of town (isn’t everything) but they only sell in bulk and in very large quantities. I had a look on eBay, there are some available there but the postage makes them a bit expensive. Guess I’ll just have to go visit our local nursery again … they had some lovely vrieseas there last week too.

With regard to hanging pots, I remember reading an earlier post, I think from Karen, that water dripping from one plant onto another below it had caused major damage to the lower plant. Is it necessary to make sure that plants hanging up higher don’t drain on to any other plants sitting below them.

Anyway, here it is 11.00am already and I haven’t done a thing … it’s quite dark outside and still raining and really miserable … I should go back to bed. So sick of all this rain, hate being stuck inside the house.

Will attach a photo of a brom a friend gave me ... can anyone tell me what it is please.

Bye for now, Shirley

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 4, 2012
6:59 PM

Post #9030103

Shirley, excuse me popping into your chat, but I have bought these hangers from this seller on eBay and find them very good for my pots.
With a pack of 10 , this is just over $1 each which also includes postage. About the best price I found on eBay.
They are very easy to use , I have only had mine for 6 months so cant say how long they will last, but I have similar which are quite old now and still going.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/35cm-3-Arm-UNIVERSAL-Plastic-Plant-Pot-Hanger-xTEN-/390101057539?pt=AU_Pots_Planters&hash=item5ad3d5c003

Jean.
perke_patch

March 5, 2012
5:53 AM

Post #9030446

Shirley your new brom could be a aechmea bert I think??? I've attached a pic of ours. we have them growing in trees as well as in pots.

Karen I think our NOID is a neo collissiana.

Nev I love your pictures of neo heck. It looks like a few variegates we have but we don't have heck. I also love your marble snow, it has lovely white colouring. We have that plant but we don't seem to get the same amount of white. Perhaps I'll try it in a different spot and see what we get. Your bill. kip sounds lovely. Johnny loves the big ones too. They make another level of colour when growing among the neos and the big ones make such a statement (here I am look at me)

Shirley we buy the plastic hangers from Garden City plastics at Woodridge. The bundle is not too big. We seem to get through them pretty quick. I'll check the invoice tomorrow and let you know how many in the bundle. They've recently dropped the size of their bundles of things. An example is the lables used to come in a box of 1,000 but now they come in a plastic box with a lid with 300 or 350. I know we have to buy 3 smaller plastic tubs to get same amount. The pots are also in smaller bundles now but we usually try to spend $500 as we then get 10% off which pays for the box of 1000 labels. Anyway if you come to see our garden soon we should have a new bundle of hangers and we can sell you some if you are still looking for them.

We spent yesterday potting a bit then went to get some more Tomcat rat bates but Bunnings were all out so we went to Masters at Tingalpa. They had a special on where for spending $10 or more you got a free sample pot of paint tinted to a colour of your choice. As we were getting 2 tubs of Tomcat we decided we would take one each and get 2 sample pots. We each picked out a colour and took our paint home. Last night Johnny decided he would do patches in the kitchen to see what the colours looked like. Both of them were awful and after drying overnight still looked awful today. So now we have to paint the whole house to cover up these patches of colour. Today was spent moving furniture and scrubbing walls, windows, ceiling, blinds etc in preparation. I've taken photos of walls showing old colour as well as the patches in the kitchen. When we have finished I will post the after shots for you all to admire. LOL

Time for bed again I think. I hope you are all staying high and dry and not flooded out. Our son rang this morning to tell us Maryborough copped a hammering and his work's control room was flooded so all sent home. They are near the Mary river but up on a hill. Apparently it was the water running down the hill that caused the problem. Anyhow he rang to tell us he was at home safe but we hadn't seen any TV or radio so didn't even know. I'm glad we no longer live in Gympie. I remember that last cyclone in 1963 they were talking about on the news. We were here that year in Gympie. The water flooded the pony club/scout paddock beside us and came into our yard. That's the only time I can remember it coming past our fence. Most of our caravan park was under and we had campers evacuated to our house, camping in our furniture van, on the shop floor and anywhere else we could put them. I remember having to help people salvage their belongings and move them to higher ground in the dark. Glad we now live where we can't be flooded out. Stay safe everyone.

Night
Wendy

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perke_patch

March 5, 2012
6:03 AM

Post #9030465

Shirley looking at your pic and then mine I don't think yours is a bert at all. I keep thinking aechmea fosteriana but not sure why. Perhaps someone else can ID.

Sorry to lead you up the garden path as they say.

Pic is aechmea electra (what we bought it as and has been called that for years unregistered) or more recently registered as rajah. We have a supply of pups now large enough to flower this year but can't sell them even with the photo attached to plant. Wait till 1 flowers and we won't have enough. It is stunning when it does flower so will be popular. BUT they are taking up so much room which we don't have so have been trying to sell a couple to make some room. Ah well sooner or later then we won't have any to spare. That's how it goes.

Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 5, 2012
11:38 AM

Post #9030925

Good morning everyone,

A nice day yesterday but once again, raining this morning so it doesn’t look like any outside work being done again today. Maybe if we get a break in the rain I’ll go and take a few pic’s as everything looks so good after the rain, I don’t know what it is about the rain, but there’s no doubt that all plants certainly perk up after it, and I wish I could capture the magic that’s in it and put it in a bottle, I’d be a very rich bloke.

Wendy – You sure know how to start a new thread with a bang don’t you? Is that an Ae Chantinii? Whatever it is, it’s a most attractive plant and certainly jumps up and says “look at me”!, “look at me”!


Kristi – That’s sure a brief visit from you today; just the same, you leave us with a nice little Cryptanthus to look at and drool over anyway.

Colleen – That’s the biggest Neo Thunderbird x seedling out of that bunch yet; there were a few different crosses but most of them so far have been quite smallish plants with a diameter of 5”- 7” and a similar height and all in various tones of red with a few spotted once in the mix also. It looks like yours is going to be red in colour as well.

Breeindy – Is that the same Vr. Ospinae gruberi you posted before? It’s a great looking plant and really growing well, so whatever you do; don’t change anything with its position or culture.

Sharon – It seems all the wet weather has caused everyone’s brom’s to start pushing out pups, and if we get a week of sunny weather now they will really take off. I was feeling pretty pleased with myself as I had potted up most of the Neo. pups that were big enough to do, but when I was walking around the shade house yesterday, I spotted a heap more that have to be done and it seems a bit like painting the Sydney Harbour Bridge, when you get to one end it's time to start all over again. .

Colleen – The Bill. in your pic isn’t Kip; if it’s one of the ones I sent, I’ve stuffed up and named it incorrectly. It looks to me to be either Hoelscheriana or De Nada, but definitely not Bill. Kip. Your Vrieseas are looking good too and you’ll soon have to extend again.

Shirley – With the pot hangers, we get ours through the brom society which buys them by the box (about 500 I think) but as soon as they arrive they don’t last too long between fifty members. The only thing I could suggest is that you get together with a group of others and split a box between you or join a bromeliad society, and purchase through them as most societies sell hangers, name tags and pots and they don’t put very much mark up on them (I know ours only adds a cent or two just to round out the cost) and certainly nothing like nurseries do. I think if a group of you got together and placed a mixed order from the catalogue which is on the www, (I think it has to be a min. Of $500) they would deliver freight free. This sounds like a lot, but if you have a reasonable sized collection and there are a few of you, you will save heaps in the long run.

With regard to hanging pots dripping into the ones below them causing major damage, the only reasons I can see for this is if the top pot was diseased or dripping something toxic such as copper or zinc residue from wire or overhead treated timber dripping into it and passing through, or the pot below wasn’t draining sufficiently and the lower plant was staying constantly wet.

When I first started hanging my plants and growing in this way, I was told by other growers the plants would all die because of being dripped on by other plants. Here it is now about four years down the track since I started growing this way and I’ve only lost about five plants to rot out of a couple of thousand, and what’s more the ones that rotted were on a bench with nothing hanging above them and I put the rot down to the fact that they were suffering from overcrowding and poor air circulation.

I’ll just ask the same question here that I asked those other growers who said my plants would all die; what happens to plants in their natural habitat with other plants growing above them at many different levels and dripping on them? They don’t seem to have this problem and they have been growing this way for centuries. The only precaution I do try to take is to have the larger pots at the top and the smaller ones at the bottom as it’s obvious the lower pots will get more water, but as they are smaller, they dry out quicker and I think one thing balances out the other.

When it comes down to deciding of what to do, it is a personal choice and one that only the individual can make. I decided to grow a lot of my plants this way to give me extra growing space and it works for me, but I did find you do have to adjust your watering accordingly.

I really don’t know what your plant is Shirley, but if I had to take a guess I would say it’s an Aechmea Orlandiana that’s been grown in too much shade and heavily fed; but as I said, that’s just a very rough guess.

Jean – The hangers in the Ebay link that you posted are similar to the ones I use except those ones have three droppers and the ones I use have four. I have used these for at least ten years and they’re still serviceable, but get the “black” ones as they are UV resistant where some of the coloured ones aren’t and become brittle with age.


Now to finish with a few pic’s of mixed genera today

No.1.Vriesea. Carinata an "oldie" but still a "goodie" , No. 2. Ae Gamosepala 'Wyee' , No. 3. Canistrum Fosterianum , No. 4. Aechmea Pectinata (Large plant), No. 5. Nidularium 'Nat De Leon'

All the best, Nev.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 5, 2012
3:48 PM

Post #9031299

Hi everyone

I was going to start out with “sun is shining … birds are singing”. That lasted about 10 minutes and now it has become quite dark and started to drizzle again ... bugger !!!

Thanks Jean for the link to the hangers on eBay, they are similar to the ones I used to get years ago at Bunnings but they don’t sell them anymore.

Wendy, appreciate your offer to come and see your garden and I am hoping we will be able to do that soon. I will take you up on the offer to buy some of your hangers when we do.

Nev, thanks for the info on the hangers and also on your experience with hanging pots one above/below the other, appreciate your help.

As for the new brom, thanks Wendy and Nev for trying to ID it. I know it was growing in a fairly large cluster under a tree in heavy shade. Perhaps after it gets a bit more light and maybe colours up a bit, I will attach another photo to see if anyone recognizes it.

Tash, I am guessing your phone is still out. We have lots of problems with ours … in fact almost every time we have heavy rain … and we’ve had plenty of that lately. We get water in the lines and after about a week without a phone Telstra do a very temporary fix by drying out the line. We have only just got the service back and now with all this rain, there’s a good chance it will go down again.

Since we live in a rural area and we are at the end of the line they don’t want to go to any expense to fix it properly. We were told it will be rectified when they go to fibre optic cables … we should live so long !!! We used to have ADSL broadband so the internet would go down along with the phone line. We have now switched to wireless … more expensive but at least it works.

I guess we could have worse problems with all the rain than the phone going down. Some people have been flooded again and again … it must be so heartbreaking for them. At least we are high and dry, sometimes isolated for a short time but that’s never been a problem.

Anyway, better go. Really must do some housework today. Bye for now

Shirley
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 5, 2012
7:25 PM

Post #9031607

Morning all. Another grey day. I just hope the floods disappear quickly so those affected can get back to their homes. And lets hope that cyclone doesn't develop and that it all just fizzles out. Looking through my plants and things I have in the carport, so much stuff is rusting or rotting, even the plastic lid for the seed container for the birds fell apart. Too much rain, then burning sun, then more rain, just not good for some things including my bones.

I too have many pups forming, some ready to divide now. I did a stack this morning, and also repotted my Kiwi Cream vriesea which had outgrown its pot. Still a stack to go, but have run out of the smaller squat pots which are best for neos. Took some pics of various things, and was wondering if anyone could ID this first pic. I got it from Olive Branch, but am sure it was wrongly labelled.

Pemiento has a lovely pup which is not quite ready, I feel, to divide yet. Soon maybe.

Bill. Muriel Waterman pup I got recently from Nev.

Mother and daughter - I bought Mum labelled as Barbarian. This name was questioned, but no one ID'd it as anything else, so I am sticking with the name, Barbarian.

And finally, a lovely little pup from Predatress. The mother is now growing a second baby and I'm giving her lots of TLC. She deserves it.







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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

March 5, 2012
8:45 PM

Post #9031688

Yes Nev its the same one, 1st pic is what it looked like when the last flower started coming up and 2nd pic now. Its pretty much in full all day sun abit to much really i think.

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perke_patch

March 6, 2012
6:30 AM

Post #9031957

Hi... Nev that pic to start the thread is aechmea chantinii as you suggested.

Karen, that 4th pic of mother/daughter is certainly not barbarian. Barbarian is covered in fine spots. I love your bill murial waterman. It looks like a large grower.

Nev I didn't have time to find those plants on your wish list before Jen came today. As she leaves very early in the morning I will have to post a parcel. OR Johnny said when we go on holiday we will head down your way and bring your plants. By the way I sent you a parcel just before your computer went down with that virus. Can't remember what you were going to send me as I don't write that down. I know I should keep a wish list but I am an impulse buyer. When I see something I like I buy it. I don't chase down something on a list. Maybe my list is in my head and subconciously I know I want something when I see it. LOL

Shirley I checked the catalogue and the hangers come in bags of 100. Unfortunately the catalogue doesn't include prices and I forgot to check the statements in the drawer downstairs to get the price for you.

Ooops just noticed the time. Night all

Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 6, 2012
3:14 PM

Post #9032500

Good morning everyone,

A nice sunny day again yesterday but this morning you would think it’s the middle of winter with a freezing cold South West wind blowing just to make everything unpleasant and make the old bones ache.

Shirley – I don’t think it matters much to Telstra where you live, they still continue to do “band aid jobs” to overcome problems without looking at and fixing the main cause. We don’t live in a rural area, we live right in town, and out the front of our place is a telephone in-ground junction box. You know the oval shaped things that are in the ground with the lid level with the top of the soil. (Incidentally these were all still the old ones which were made from moulded fibro asbestos and have been there for years)

We had the same problem, every time it rained, water leaked into the box and the phones went out. Telstra would come the next day and dry it out and all would be OK until it rained again and the same thing happened all over again. Fortunately one time when a young technician came to fix it and I was talking to him I pointed out a crack in the corner where the water came in (which I had showed to many technicians in the past) As well as drying the box out he sealed it up with silicon which he said would hopefully fix the problem. When I asked him why not just put in a new box, he said as far as Telstra was concerned that was an absolute last possibility as it involved about three different gangs of workers not just a line technician. Fortunately the silicon has done the job and we haven’t had any problems for five years now.

Karen – Sorry I can’t help you with an ID on the first one, and I can definitely say the plants in Pic 4 definitely aren’t Neo Barbarian. The do however look like they may one of the many Lambert’s Pride hybrids, it’s very hard to say as there are so many unnamed hybrids around now that all look alike.

Breeindy – That’s a wonderful example of just how much influence light can have on the colours of coloured leaf brom’s and I would like also to point out that this is why it’s so very difficult to ID a plant from a single picture.

I would never buy a plant from just a single picture unless I know the grower and am familiar with all the variations different light intensities can create in that plant, and if possible get two pic’s, one grown in good light and one in poor light if that’s at all possible.

Wendy – As for your comment about Bill. Muriel Waterman, it’s not a very large grower, about a foot high but not as narrow as most Bill’s similar in habit to those Bill Pyramidalis hybrids I posted pic’s of.

Re. Our swap, that was the box you sent with the two little Orthophytum ‘vagans’ and the two little Ananas ‘Rubra’ pups, but I don’t remember what the other were. I will have it here somewhere on my desk, but the only trick is where to look for it as my desk look s like the victim of an atom bomb attack at present.

Well that’s about it for this morning (Oh I forgot to tell you all that Tash posted on Face Book to say her phone’s finally fixed, so hopefully we’ll her from her again soon)

Something a bit different in the pic’s today two lots of pic's in the form of a quiz..

Pic 1,2,and 3 - A friend of mine was telling me about this strange "creature" she found swimming in the cup of her Neo Rosy Morn. She said it wriggled as it moved through the water and looked like a large "maggot" with a tail. She managed to catch it and put it into a container so she could photograph it (and I'm attaching the pic's below - There is also one pic of it while in the Rosy Morn cup as well but it's not easy to make out, but if you look carefully you can just see the shape in about the middle of the pic (the white thing with the tail disappearing into the flowers)

She said she has seen them before but never photographed them. She put it back in the plant after taking the pic's and after a couple of days it had vanished.

I'm sorry about the small size of the pic's, but that's how they were sent to me and I don't know how to enlarge them. Has anyone here seen them or can identify them please?

Pic's 3 and 4 - These are of a brom I've never seen before. What's unusual is that this brom has five flower spikes all from a single plant. Does anyone know what its name is?

I know the name by I "ain't" saying for a couple of days when everyone's had a chance to answer.


All the best, Nev.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 6, 2012
4:16 PM

Post #9032558

Hi all, Wednesday again … shopping day.

Typically the sun is shining this morning and we will be at the shopping centre most of the day, so once again, nothing useful done at home. Mind you, I don’t mind the shopping … we make it less painful by having coffee and lunch at the centre and sometimes meeting up with friends. Tomorrow, you can bet it will be raining again … oh well !!!

Wendy, I checked out the Garden City Plastics catalogue … lots of good stuff. I was looking at the pots … lots of them too. Can I ask you please, which one do you use?

Nev, it seems like Telstra don’t really care much about service. And then, there’s the really annoying offshore call centres when you are trying to sort out a problem.

Question … I was reading back thru the posts and came across Breeindy’s photo of that lovely vriesea, flowering for the second time. I was under the (obviously misguided) impression that all broms are monocarpic … are there others that are not.

Well, time to get myself organized for our day out … talk to you soon.

Shirley
perke_patch

March 7, 2012
6:21 AM

Post #9033082

Hi everyone.
Like everyone else we had trouble with the pit out front filling with water when it rains which results in our phones crackling and sometimes not even working. Every time we saw a technician fixing someone's phone along our road we always knew someone else's phone would stop working. there just wasn't enough lines for the number of phones in the area. Anyhow we would get the telstra technician out and they would bucket the water out of the pit. eventually the crackling would stop once the line was dry. The worst thing was that the water filling the pit would eventualy overflow and run across out footpath. It got so bad we couldn't walk on the driveway because the water would flow across constantly and cause slippery moss to grow on the cement. Eventually Johnny decided to fix the problem once and for all. He opened the pit and drilled a whole through the side of the pit. Then he dug a trench across the grass to the curb. He placed a layer of rocks in the drain then put ag pipe in to take the water out of the pit. We haven't had a crackling phone since then and the footpath stays dry now.

Shirley we like to use 200ml and 250 ml squat pots. But we use whatever we have. A lot of people including a couple of landscapers now drop off their empty pots for us to use so we always have a supply of assorted pots under the benches.

Nev I wonder if that wriggler in your pic is a tadpole???? Maybe it grew its legs, turned into a frog and hopped away. We also woke today to strong south easterly winds so it has been much cooler last couple days and especially the nights. Max has decided he doesn't want to sleep in the airconditioned bedroom any more. He sleeps in Emily's room now and around 6am to 7am in the morning he headbuts the door to open it and comes in.

As I said in an earlier post we have been painting so I thought I would attach a picture of the lounge room before and after. First pic is the wall behind the TV in the old yellow colour. The 2nd pic shows the wall to the left of the front door showing the colour of the walls throughout the house and to the right of door is the feature wall behind the TV. The cupboard makes it hard to see but below the daddo rail is painted sandy day full strength and above is sandy day half strength. We now only have the bedrooms to do and I have one of those all cleaned and washed ready to go. We just have to push the bed to one side to paint 2 walls then move it back to get to other wall. One whole wall is covered in built in wardrobes so that helps.

Must be off to bed now. Night all
Wendy

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

March 7, 2012
2:59 PM

Post #9033665

Hi everyone, great to see a new thread up :)
Only a real quick message, I haven't read the posts to catch up yet, we got our land line back a couple of days ago, was without it for 6 days.
Then Monday night completely out of the blue I came down with a huge coughing bout and couldn't breath very well at all. Tuesday was just as bad all day and I laid in bed all day, and same yesterday until Dr's in the afternoon. Conclusion is a huge chest infection and blood tests. So just been and done the blood tests and now I think I'll lay down with my little man while he watches a movie.
So I will catch up soon, just never been this sick before, can't eat, not getting much fluids in either, but hoping now I'm on the antibiotics that things will improve quickly. I know I'm sick when I can't even get on the computer ;)
Talk soon, hope you are all well,
Tash
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 7, 2012
3:43 PM

Post #9033722

Nev, must be time to reveal the mystery creature. I don't have a clue, never seen anything like it. Must be alien. Looks like a stinger on the back.

Tash, hope you feel better soon. Am somewhat congested myself and needing ventolin atm. All that wet weather when we were breathing water instead of air has taken its toll. Add to that the mould growing on everything, sending more spores into the air for us to breathe in, no wonder people are having chest problems.

Wendy, have fun with the painting. Will look all brand new and lighter when you're done, in that new colour.

Blessed sunshine again today. Out go the washed bed linen and towels again. Women's work is never done, no matter how often its done.

Hello everyone else I haven't caught up with today. Nursing a bit of a headache so going to hang out the last load then put my feet up for a bit. Oh, better bring the birds up first. They are down the back as I blasted their cage clean again this morning. They don't like being so exposed though and won't settle till I bring them up onto the veranda.

Have a great day everyone.

Karen

Vr. Evita, recently from Neville. Looking forward to watching this grow.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 7, 2012
4:20 PM

Post #9033763

Morning all,

lovely morning here, the sun is shining again today, so much better than the rain. Mind you, it’s not that long ago that we were so desperate for rain and we were having to truck water in.

Wendy, sounds like Telstra have a lot to answer for. It’s not like we have a lot of choice though when it comes to telephone service. From what I have heard, a lot of the other suppliers are even worse and they use Telstra lines anyway. Good luck with the painting.

Tash, so sorry to hear you are sick … sounds nasty, hope you get better soon. Take care, put your feet up, take it easy for a couple of weeks. I know it’s really hard to do that with young children to care for but you need to put yourself first for a bit while you’re recovering.

Karen, you need to take good care of yourself too. Hope you are feeling better soon.

Nev, your ‘critter’ is a bit fishy looking … maybe it came down with the rain … maybe it’s a very large mosquito larvae … actually I wouldn’t have a clue either.

Gotta go now and hang out the washing. Like Karen said, a woman’s work is never done … well, not for long anyway.

Bye for now, Shirley
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 7, 2012
5:56 PM

Post #9033902

Evening ~ all. The excessive rains you have been getting has made the national news here. It would be nice to receive the rain only when and as needed. Hope it will soon dry out.

I do suspect all the respiratory problems are indeed related to the mould. It will set me on edge too.

It is quickly warming up here and I need to put the shadecloth up in the greenhouse until I can move the plants out. I am deliberating on where I will place the few broms I have this summer.

Must add I gotta go do the dinner dishes and get ready for a visit from northern snowbird family members.

Like Karen and Shirley said, a womans' work is never done... actually it is done, over and over and over again. lol
Have a good day all. Kristi
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 7, 2012
7:45 PM

Post #9034057

Good morning everyone; (well it’s not really a good morning), It’s been pouring all night and is still pouring, I'm sick of it and I’m stuck inside and quickly going “stir crazy”!

Shirley – I can just remember something about that plant you speak about but can’t be sure if it was Breeindy’s plant or one on another forum. I think from memory it turned out to be one of the Vr. Ospinae types where the new pup comes up the middle of the main plant and which “appears” to be flowering for a second time when in fact it is the new pup that’s flowering. I’m really not aware of any brom, that flowers more than once per year, but then I don’t know all there is to know about brom’s and there are always exceptions to all rules, with new things popping up occasionally to dispel all theories, so who knows?

Wendy – Johnny’s idea with the junction box seems to have done the job, but it’s just as well no one from Telstra saw him doing it or he would have got the blame for all of the phone troubles; you know they’re always looking for someone to blame other that themselves. I don’t think the “creature from black lagoon” was a tadpole, as from what I’m told, none of them ever had that shape and as you know when they are changing from tadpoles into small frogs the head always becomes enlarged first, and this didn’t happen, they just looked like “maggots with tails“ the whole time.

I do wish you hadn’t shown the painting job here; all you’ve done now is to remind me I have two ceilings I have to paint and have been putting off for some time.

Tash – Sorry to hear you’re unwell. Whatever you do you must force yourself to drink lots of fluids especially water as the antibiotics can only kill the bugs, but it’s up to you to flush the dead bugs from your system; so lots and lots of water. Remember that antibiotics kill the good bacteria along with the bad bacteria so you also you need to get onto a product containing probiotics such as Yoghurt or Yakult to replace the good bacteria. This combined with lots of water will make you feel better quicker also.

Karen – That Vr Evita is really a beautiful plant and a very good grower as well. I had two pots with seven flower spikes on each this year, but they had just got to the stage where they had to be divided unfortunately. Your pup is from the first pot I divided and the second pot is still waiting to be done as it hasn’t stopped raining long enough to let me do it. It does have a really nice red inflorescence stalk topped with contrasting multiple yellow paddles with yellow flowers and is very eyecatching.

Kristi – I was only saying on another forum this morning that it only seems like yesterday when we were all complaining that we were in drought with severe water restrictions in place, and now we’re being flooded. This just supports the old Australian saying I heard as a boy, which said that "in Australia, a drought is always broken by a flood". It seems like Mother Nature doesn’t like us much anymore and keeps sending us droughts, bushfires, cyclones and floods. Anyway, if we didn’t have them we would have to find something else to whinge about I suppose, so we should be making the best of what we have.

As for the “Mystery Monster”, it seems we have agreement from a highly respected bromeliad hybridizer/retired chemist and a retired scientist who both say that it is indeed a “maggot”. The tail is something they grow to adapt to life foraging for dead tissue in water. I guess Wendy was on the right track when she thought a tadpole which had turned into a frog and hopped away, instead it was a maggot that turned into a blowfly and flew away.

The brom grower/chemist has seen and studied it before in his own collection. Apparently the blowfly is attracted by the smell of the rotting dead flowers in the cup of the brom and lays its eggs above the water line. When the water line rises the eggs then become submerged and it’s here after hatching they adapt by growing a tail to help them swim in their new home in the water... Ain’t nature just fantastic!

Well that’s about it for today except to show you all a new collection of pic’s from another New Zealand grower and hybridizer named Peter Coyle. Part of Peter's business is also running a resort called “Totara Waters” and if anyone is interested in looking at some superb gardens, check out his web site at: totarawaters.co.nz and you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

Peter has kindly given me permission to post his pictures on our little forum for you all to see and I’m sure you won’t be disappointed.

I’ll start with a few of his new hybrids 1. Neo [Rosea Striata x Concentrica] x Vivacor, 2. Neo. Gespacho x Alkazar, 3. Neo. 'Bottoms Up', 4. Neo. Lambert's Pride x Treasure Chest, and 5 is a group of Neo. Lambert's Pride x Treasure Chest seedlings from the same batch of seed which just shows the variation you can get and the reason why growing from seed is so interesting.

All the best, Nev.

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perke_patch

March 8, 2012
2:56 AM

Post #9034213

First let me say sorry you girls aren't well atm. take care of yourself both of you. Karen with your health problems you can't afford to let something take hold like an infection and Tash after last week I know how hard it is to look after toddlers so you need to get better asap and I hope you don't share what you have with your little guy. That would be really hard on you to have to care for him while you are sick too.

Nev I love those hybrids from Peter Coyle. I would love to produce something like those one day.

Now painting. If any of you have homes with outside timber like ours I must share todays bargain with you all. We had to go to Bunnings to get another 4L of paint to do the bedroom walls. While the guy was tinting it Johnny notices that 4L solargard was on sale for $29. That is less than half price so a very very good bargain. Apparently Wattyl has alligned itself with Masters and Bunnings has to get all Wattyl products off their shelves. Our Bunnings had only just replenished stock so they had pellets of it out the back. Anyway we grabbed 4 cans for later when we paint outside of our house. When we went to checkout the girl said to only lift 1 can up and she would scan it 4 times. We were talking and I didn't even pay attention and when she said $107 I just pulled out the cash and paid for it. When we got to the car Johnny just sat there looking at the docket and he said she made a big mistake. I immediately realised what she had done but didn't at the time. So we got 4 cans for $29 only. What a bargain... anyway I advise anyone wanting to paint outside to grab some wattyl paint while you can.

After my late night last night I'm planning an early night tonight so I will sign off now. Nev hope the rain stops before Jen gets there or she might have to trade their car in on a boat to get to your place LOL.

Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 8, 2012
12:31 PM

Post #9034822

Good morning everyone, (I don't know why I say everyone as everyone seems to have gone somewhere else except Wendy) so I'll just say Good morning Wendy.

At last the rain seems to have stopped, no rain all night and as I start typing this morning it’s 5.00am and it’s still not raining. However there’ll be no work in the garden again this morning as I have to go for more ultrasounds, so that’s the morning wasted.

There won’t be much done this afternoon either as I have a special treat; Jen is coming to visit and no doubt we’ll spend a lot of time “brom chatting” and looking at plants. It will be really good to at last be able to put a face to one of the anonymous people who I have communicated with occasionally via Emails and DG forums, and I’m really looking forward to it. Last year it was Sue and I’ve worked it out that at this rate of one person per year I will be 98 by the time I finally get to meet the people who I regularly chat with on these forums.

Wendy – That’s a great bargain you got onto with the paint. Unfortunately our local Bunnings rarely ever has any specials like that as they chose to hang onto everything at the right price until the very last minute. Even their plants are at death’s door before they are reduced in price by which time nobody wants to buy them anyway and they end up in the bin.

I was also told by the horticulturist at our local Bunnings that they are going to stop stocking all Brunnings and Amgrow products as well as a third brand they hadn't told him the name of at that stage. The reason being is that Woolworths who are starting up some “Super Stores” (similar to Bunnings) have bought the sole rights to these products and even though they won’t be opening for another two years, they will cut supplies of all this stock to Bunnings so it seems like it’s all out war between these two companies which hopefully, somewhere down the track should mean a better deal for "us" the consumer.

As for those of you suffering from the dreaded flu bug, look after yourselves and get better soon; it’s not just confined to Queensland you know; every second person we see down here has it or knows someone with it as well; except me that is, as I have my orange every day as I have for the past fifty nine years on the advice of the GP who treated me as a child when I had a cold which progressed to bronchial pneumonia. He was visiting twice a day and giving me penicillin injections and it was then he told me that if I ate an orange a day for the rest of my life I’d never get a cold again, and so far he’s been right.

I have a little bit more on the mystery creature; it was sent to me from another forum by a friend. He sent me a link to Wikipedia which describes the “monster” as a "Rat-tailed maggot" and it’s also accompanied by pictures, see below:

Rat-tailed maggot
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Eristalis tenax larva
Rat-tailed maggots are the larvae of some species of hoverfly, commonly Eristalis tenax. A characteristic feature of rat-tailed maggots is a tube-like, three segmented, telescoping breathing siphon located at their posterior end.[1] This acts like a snorkel, allowing the larva to breathe air while submerged. The siphon is usually about as long again as the maggot's body (20 mm when mature), but can be extended as long as 150 mm. It is this organ that gives the larva its common name. It lives in stagnant, oxygen-deprived water, with a high organic content. It is fairly tolerant of pollution and can live in sewage lagoons and cesspools.[1]

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• 1 Commercial use
• 2 Infection
• 3 Images
• 4 References
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[edit] Commercial use
These larvae, commonly called "mousies" are cultured and sold as fish bait. They are especially popular in ice fishing.[2]
[edit] Infection
There have occasionally been documented cases of human intestinal Myiasis of the Rat-tailed maggot (larvae of Eristalis tenax). Symptoms can be none (asymptomatic) to abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting, or pruritus ani. Infection can be caused by ingestion of contaminated food or water but doubts have been expressed that accidentally ingested fly larvae could survive in the gastrointestinal tract. Zumpt proposed an alternative called "rectal myiasis". Flies, attracted to feces, may deposit their eggs or larvae near or into the anus, and the larvae then penetrate further into the rectum. They can survive feeding on feces at this site, as long as the breathing tube reaches towards the anus.[1][3]

If you want to see the pic's you need to go to this link:... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat-tailed_maggot

Well that's it for another day, now for a few more pic's, thi time I'll post some of the NZ Neoregelia miniatures.

1. is Neoregelia Alley Cat. 2. Neoregelia Cayenne, 3. Neoregelia Mini Skirt, and 4. is neoregelia Pheasant There was a 5. as well but it's disappeared

All the best, Nev.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 8, 2012
12:43 PM

Post #9034828

Hi again,

Seeing DG cut out No 5 from the previos post I'll try and post it again along with four others. No.1. Neoregelia Shamrock (My favourite), No.2. Neoregelia Mo Pepper Please, No. 3. Neoregelia Turmoil, No. 4. Wee Willy and No. 5. Neoregelia Whim

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 8, 2012
12:51 PM

Post #9034837

You are not alone Nev. I always pop in to read all the posts but as I dont have many broms and am not as into them , I dont post much. I do enjoy reading all the info though.
I havent ever seen any creatures in my broms other than spiders and the odd small frog.
I potted a lot of pups over the weekend.
My bil. Hallelujahs are still flowering and they always pup madly .
I took a very large pup from Hannibal Lector. There is s till one left on mumma.
I found that a lot of the broms pupping havent flowered and the ones that are flowering hardly have a pup.
I am hoping to sell some of the pups at the local trash & treasure in May. Should give me more money to buy more plants.
I do hope all up there in the north are safe and dry.
Jean.

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 8, 2012
3:11 PM

Post #9034989

Hi all,

I'm still here too Nev ... just a bit too early for me, I'm afraid. The photos you posted are absolutely gorgeous.

The Woolies super store you mention who are taking on Bunnings are Masters. We have one here already and some of their products are cheaper than Bunnings and others are not. As for competition ... Bunnings wont stock any brands that Masters have so its not really 'apples for apples' so to speak. We used to buy water filters at Bunnings and the last time we went to buy them we were told "we are not stocking that brand any more as Masters are selling them, but this one, brand x, is better and cheaper." Well, we bought brand x and it was absolute 'crap' so from now on, we will just buy our water filters at Masters, where we can buy the tried and true brand we have always used.

Masters have a lovely big garden centre and very helpful staff, though not as many as when they opened last year and Bunnings staff numbers have decreased dramatically so I guess they are hurting a bit.

Karen and Tash ... hope you are in recovery mode and up and about again.

Wendy ... good buy with the paint. Typically, we bought paint a few weeks ago and it was very expensive. That's the norm for us ... pay full price today only to find it heavily discounted in a couple of weeks time. Ahh, that's life !!!

Attached photo is another of my NOIDs ...

See ya, Shirley

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 8, 2012
3:21 PM

Post #9034999

Hi everyone. Another lovely day here this morning, though they predict it will get very hot today. Just my luck, as I have another hospital appt. at lunch time, so will be travelling in the heat. That elusive bone doctor today.

Was out yesterday and another bus driver wouldn't stop at my bus stop to let me off. This is once too often. This time I did complain to the company. Will probably never hear back, but from now on if it keeps on happening, I'll complain loud and clear, maybe even take it to the local newspaper. I even got home with my arm bleeding again. Beginning to think my skin is so thin, that it splits when my blood pressure goes up.

Wendy, well done with the paint. Hope we can get down soon to see you both. Have a vriesea to be divided, so need your help.

Jean, I love bill. Hallelujah. Mine flowered once, but now has quite a few pups on it. Its a really beautiful plant.

Hi Shirley, nice noid there. With all the hybrids around these days its probably difficult to avoid the nameless ones. But some are worthy of their place in our gardens, to be sure.

Nev, you light up the forum with your beautiful pics of broms. Oh, and your colourful stories too. As you know, the minis are my favourites, and this last lot you've shown are fabulous.

I'm feeling better now the rains have gone. Too much moisture in the lungs, I think. Also, I'm breaking in a new medication, and I suspect the congestion may be another side effect, along with headaches. Nothing major though, so will persist and see if it all settles down. My cholestrol is through the roof, they say, but I can't take the usual medications for it due to savage side effects. This is the end of the line, so it has to work.

My broms will have to suffer the sun today as I won't be here to move things around if necessary. But it is lovely to see the trees in flower and the bees crawling all over them. I love Autumn. Think I've said that before.

Hi Kristi, Colleen, Bree, and everyone else who pops in. Have a lovely day
Karen


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 9, 2012
1:05 PM

Post #9035995

Good morning everyone,

Another fine morning and what a glorious day we had here yesterday. I got my rotten ultrasounds out of the way in the morning and was back home at 12.00 just in time to have a bit of lunch before Jen came; I think it must have been her who brought the good weather with her, a little bit of sunshine from sunny Queensland.

Well what a beaut afternoon we had, and we talked and discussed brom’s from 1.00 til 4.00 non-stop. Jen brought me down some plants to swap as well as some from Sue which I wasn’t expecting and some from Wendy too I think. I’m not sure what came from where and from whom now, as there were three boxes, and the good thing was I didn’t have any of them.

Jen was pretty pleased to think she was getting rid of some and making a bit more room at home but she took back just as many as she brought, so she’s not any better off. I also used her as a courier as well as I had plants I wanted to get up to Wendy and Johnny as well as Tash. Unfortunately I stuffed up as usual by thinking that Jen lived in Cairns and could drop Wendy’s off on the way through and then continue on with Tash’s. When she told me the bad news that she lived around Brisbane and not Cairns that sort of mucked things up as I already had Tash and Jason’s plants ready, so Tash if your reading this, Jen’s taking your plants back to her place and you will have to arrange somehow how to get them from her up to you. In any case, the good thing is, they’ll be half way there anyway and the post won’t take as long or cost as much, but I do apologise for the mix-up.

We talked about brom’s so hard and fast I’ve now lost my voice (which some will no doubt say is a good thing) but it was a very enjoyable afternoon and she was a nice lady who even my old (17 Y.O.) dog liked (and at his age he doesn’t usually like strangers), but he is a very good judge of character. I remember I once gave a bloke some plants which he was to pay me for at the next brom meeting. He seemed like a genuine bloke but the old dog took an instant dislike to him right from the time he first saw him, (in fact if I hadn’t locked him up I think he would have gone for him). Anyway, the next meeting came around and I went expecting to get my money but he wasn’t there. I didn’t worry too much and thought something unforseen must have happened. Unfortunately he never showed up at the next meeting either and we’ve never seen him since, he just vanished! – I should have taken notice of what my old dog was trying to tell me.

Anyway the visit ended all too soon and it was time for her to go, but then Jen realised she couldn’t fit everything in while they were potted up, so she had to un-pot everything and wrap them for travelling. She finally got away about 4.00 and hadn’t been gone two minutes when it started to spit rain again, so our timing was perfect.

At this stage, I’ll just mention I’m usually home most of the time, so any time any of you are in the area, please feel free to give me a ring and we’ll arrange a time for a visit, I love to see brom friends and you’d all be very welcome.

Jean – Good to hear you’re still dropping in to read the threads, and your brom’s are still growing well and pupping for you. I’ve found a nice little tree fern for you and will get it off to you either next week or the week after, but I’ll send you a message to tell you when I send it.

Colleen - I've found a little tree fern and birds nest fern for you also, and I'll put them in the brocolli box with the next lot of pups I promised you (probably the week after next.)

Shirley – From what you say about Bunnings and the new store, maybe we’ll have someone who knows how to look after their plants better than Bunning’s do.; and if they’re stocking different products, we should have more varieties as well at hopefully competitive prices. I must however congratulate Bunnings on the great gardening workshops they hold at our local store four times per year. They really put on a good show including guest speakers, morning and afternoon tea, lunch as well as a sample bag for all attendees plus lucky door prizes and free give-aways as well.

I like your NOID as well Shirley; I don’t know what it is but judging by the concentric rings showing on the foliage, I’ll bet “pounds to peanuts” that it has Neo, Concentrica somewhere in its parentage.

Karen – Gee you’re having quite a time with those busses, I think as well as going to the newspaper, I would also go to your “local member” as it’s in their best interests to be seen doing things for their constituents and they do carry a bit of “clout”. When you go right into it I think you’ll find that the bus company is breaching its contract by what it’s doing and they’re not above the law you know, they have rules they have to follow as well. Gee I wish I lived up where you do, as I love having a good “blue” with people and companies doing the wrong thing by people. I got stuck into a plumbing company down here once many years ago about charging a pensioner $65 for just changing a tap washer, even though they were technically within the law as that was the service fee, I still told them via the news paper that it was morally wrong. I did get some unofficial feedback a while later to say they now do those little jobs, free of charge for pensioners if it is on their way to or from a job. Not much, but a small win for the elderly.

I remember in about 1966 when I was working for a builder; he was just a small builder with one carpenter (me), one apprentice and one labourer plus himself also a carpenter. Each Friday afternoon on the way home from our job for a couple of hours before “knock off time” we would do little jobs around the town for pensioners free of charge. Things like re-screening flyscreens, fixing door and window locks, changing light globes or tap washers. Just little things but things that the old people had trouble doing. We would also drop of the hardwood timber off cuts for people with old fuel stoves as well as softwood off cuts to a couple of old blokes who used to make wooden toys for the Salvo’s Christmas tree every year. It was only a small town, and they were only small jobs, but we were well appreciated and the boss always reckoned it was the best advertising he could get, and consequently we were never out of work.

Gee everyone, sorry about straying off the topic of brom’s, but you can blame Karen for making me once more "run off at the mouth" and get on my soap box to beat my drum, but it does feel better to get these things off your chest; you don’t have to just put up with them you know.

I’ll finish with some more nice brom pic’s from N.Z. courtesy of Peter Coyle, just to make those of you on the sick list feel a little better. 1. Neo.Marble Throat x Little Dazzler, 2. another from the same seed batch Neo Marble Throat x Little Dazzler, 3. Vriesea Nova Princess, 4. Vriesea Taranaki Mist, and just for Karen 5. A mix of new mini's

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 9, 2012
1:57 PM

Post #9036090

Hi everyone. Nev I'm still wandering around here but have been quite busy with the boys and school and trying to get ready for John to come up today and visitors in between. Thank you for finding the tree fern and bird nest ferns. I thought with the SH I might be able to grow them here now. It's worth a try anyway. My brother in Queensland has sent a parcel of plants down to me. There's some broms, a mock orange, a tree umbrella and a few other things that he found around the place. It will be a surprise for me when it arrives. He said that his phone line and internet has been out for 5 days now. They put it up on poles because it was always getting washed out and a hedger took the line out. You can't win can you. That was a lovely thing that your boss used to do and as he said it was great advertising. What goes around comes around I always say. Tash I hope you are on the mend now. Hope everyone has a great day and I'll try to get back later. Colleen

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 9, 2012
3:38 PM

Post #9036182

Hi everyone,

nice morning here, though it is expected to get to something like 35 degrees today, a tad too hot for my liking.

Karen, maybe you should report your bus company's drivers to your local member, to the ombudsman or to Brisbane City Council, maybe even Queensland Transport, depending on who the company is contracted by. Don't let them get away with doing this to you.

Nev, sounds like you and Jen shared a lovely afternoon and both of you got some lovely broms. I can't wait till mine are at the stage where I can swap with others but right now most of them are mere babies.

I agree with you that dogs are excellent judges of character. We used to have a huge but very gentle dobermann (named Max) who, every now and then, would take a real dislike to a particular person and he generally turned out to be right. Also, I find it amaging that you have a dog 17 years old ... wow, thats like the equivalent of around 120 in human years.

Bunnings gardening workshops sound pretty good to me. I'll have to find out if they do the same thing at our local warehouse.

Colleen, I really like your broms in photos number 3 and 4.

Anyway, gotta go wrap granddaughter Raylee's birthday pressie, 7 years old already and they will be up to visit later today.

Shirley

DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 9, 2012
4:03 PM

Post #9036205

Hello and good morning. Another glorious day here, and I'm doing some heavy washing before winter sets in. We only get 2-3 hours of sun here in winter and it takes 2 days to get anything dry.

Shirley, I used the bus again yesterday, but knew it would be ok as soon as I got on, as I'd had this driver before, and he was a good one. Most of them are. Its just the 4 now that I've struck that have really bad attitudes. If they hate their job so much, why don't they get another one? Yes, one complaint probably won't fix the problem. My biggest fear is that they will remove the bus stop altogether, as even I have to admit, 3 stops in half a kilometre is a lot, but the other two are both uphill walks which is not a good thing for me.

Colleen, those are lovely plants there. Sounds like you are in store for some nice surprises when your brother's parcel arrives.

Nev, love the minis. Thank you. Peter has some beauties, hasn't he. Thank you for the verbal support re the buses too. I sometimes feel like I'm just an old whinger. Wasn't that long ago I could hike up the hills (they're just inclines really) and not even think about it. Now I huff and puff and in a short space have to take a couple of angina sprays and walk so painfully slowly for fear of having a heart attack.

Anyway, the bone doctor went well. As we already knew, I have one very frozen shoulder, but the pain is over, and he thinks between 6 and 18 months I should wake up one morning and my arm will be free again. Glory be.

Haven't been down to the plants yet as we've had noisy machines next door trimming trees and cleaning roof gutters. Wish they'd come over here and do mine.

So will just wish everyone a lovely day and catch up tomorrow.
Karen
brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

March 9, 2012
4:11 PM

Post #9036214

Hi all. Sorry I've been a bit slack about posting but have been keeping up with all your interesting information and photos A belated welcome to Shirley. You have some lovely plants Shirley and they look very healthy. I've been following your shadehouse building. Looks like it will be great when finished. We filled in our old swimming pool last year and built a shadehouse (or I should say Johnny built the shadehouse!) instead so I know what an arduous and expensive task it can be. I just live around the corner from Wendy so maybe you get out a packed lunch and compass and head over our way sometime. We could take you to Catlan's if you haven't been, a real Allladin's brom cave.
Sorry to hear that you haven't been feeling too flash Karen and Tash. Hope you are soon on the mend. Colleen, Bree and Jean, your plants are looking good and your collections seem to be growing in leaps and bounds.
It was wonderful to finally met Nev yesterday afternoon and check out all his lovely broms. Within minutes we were chatting like we'd known each other for years. Nev has made the most amazing use of his space and it felt a bit like that old ad, " But wait there's more! " Broms in every direction and I love the way Nev has so many hanging in layers. The plants all look happy and healthy so I'll definitely have to give it a try. Think Nev was underestimating the brom trade just a wee bit. I brought 2 boxes from Wendy and me and another box from Sue. (That was frustrating too because I only got to visit Sue for about 1/2 hour and Ray had to drag me away kicking and screaming but at least we get next Friday to ourselves.) The broms were taking up a bit of room and I kept reassuring my husband that there would be more space after I dropped the broms at Nev's. Hubby looked at me skeptically because he knows what brom people are like. Huh! Nev gave me so many beauties that I knew my husband would have a fit when he saw how many I had, so the only way I could sneak them in was to depot them all and wrap them in newspaper. So I have 3 big boxes of wrapped ones + some too big for the boxes + a box for Wendy and Johnny + a teefy box for Tash. Nev had Wendy's and Tash's all wrapped so it is taking all my willpower not to unwrap them for a peak. Bromaholicism is a terrible infliction. Nev and I were chuckling yesterday about how seemingly rational friendly people turn into monsters at brom sales and it becomes every man for himself, forget the sharing. We had a lovely afternoon together and if you are down this way I highly recommend you visit Nev and his wife who will make you very welcome. Even Nev's dog politely tolerated my need for a dog dose (Missing mine terribly). My only regret is that I left the camera at the cabin. Hopeless, I know. Will atone when I get home and am not trying to use this mobile broadband stick. Catch up soon, Jen
perke_patch

March 10, 2012
4:38 AM

Post #9036575

I posted a message last night with some photos but it isn't here. Computers with a mind of their own. Last nights message included that we have all those minis in Nev's pics posted yesterday.

Nev having Master's as well as Bunnings hasn't improved the care of plants in their gardening sections. If anything the quality of broms in our Bunnings has definately deteriorated. But we saw a batch of guzmanias at Masters that were in a spot where the midday sun shon straight down through the open roof and burned them all. They didn't reduce the price until they were way too far gone to save. It seems that Masters is signing exclusivity contracts with companies like Wattyl (paints) who have demanded that Bunnings remove all their products. So the only thing that will cause is that we will not be able to obtain all our regular products in one spot. Some will be alligned to Bunnings while others will only be available in Masters. They do both promise to match prices on same products and if we took Masters or Bunnings catalogues to other store and showed an item they will beat that advertised price.

Jen so glad you and Nev had a great day. Now I can't wait for you to get home. Oh by the way I have a lovely black quesnelia here potted up and settling in. It didn't look happy sitting under your clothes line without any mix around it. Buck must be missing you. When he heard me rattling the chain at the gate he raced around the side to see if it was you home but when he saw it was only me he sulked back to wherever he had been lying. I didn't even see him again.

Karen I'm sorry about your troubles with the bus company. I agree with everyone else that you should put in an official written complaint and send a copy of the letter to the paper. Outline your health issues and state that the trek up the hill always brings on angina attacks and you believe that one day it will cause you to have another heart attack. It certainly wouldn't hurt to include the local members seeing there is an election campaign on. Don't forget to state that the majority of the drivers are very nice, friendly and helpful ... the few bad ones give the others a bad image.

I have tillandsias flowering everywhere at the moment including he ionantha up the tree. there is little pink buds appearing everywhere up the branch (pic 2). There is also a tenufolia montana flowering (pic 1)

I'm having the girls sleepover again tomorrow night so I better get an early night tonight to prepare.

Night all
Wendy

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 10, 2012
3:29 PM

Post #9037250

Morning all,

Looking a bit overcast here this morning and it appears we had some showers overnight.

Karen, I had a frozen shoulder a few years ago … VERY painful, I know, and very frustrating. Fortunately it was my left arm that I couldn’t use and I became quite adept at doing things using only my right arm (which got rather painful as a result). The one thing that I found really difficult for a long time was washing my hair. Initially hanging out the clothes was a bit of a drama but I got round that one by putting the pegs on the garment before hanging them then just clipping the pegs over the line. I was very lucky though, the Dr told me I could expect it to stay frozen for 18 months but thankfully it took only about 6 months. At the same time Michael had a shattered left arm from a fall, so we became one armed twins for a while there.

Jen, thank you for your welcome to the forum. Actually, we do intend to head over your way when Wendy has her brom sale. We may just take a cut lunch and a flask of coffee and hopefully with the help of “Tom” our GPS we will navigate our way there successfully ... I am looking forward to it.

Nev, did you sleep in this morning … you normally post much earlier.

Anything, things to do today. Bye for now

Shirley
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 10, 2012
7:14 PM

Post #9037514

Good morning everyone,

Well it looks like Mother Nature’s being kind to us with a nice day again today, and I hope all who have recently been on the sick list are now well and truly on the mend and can soon get out in the garden and start enjoying your brom’s again.

I’m having a day off from the brom’s today and we’re taking my two year old grandson over to the Illawarra Light Railway Museum for his very first ride on a steam train. A little point of interest for the Queenslanders in our group is that two of the steam locomotives we have running were originally donated by Sugar companies in Queensland and they spent their working life in the cane fields of North Queensland. Fittingly they are called “Tully” and “Cairns”.
See: http://www.ilrms.com.au/ Also, just so Colleen won’t feel left out, there’s a South Australian connection as well as the loco called “Tully” was originally built in Adelaide in the 1940’s.

Colleen – Your plants look great and the picture’s really do tell a story of how well you’re growing them. Seems like you’ve been very busy lately and what with the two boys and all your brom’s you’ve really got your hands full; however it’s great to have the young ones around isn’t it, they keep us hopping, but somehow it takes our mind off our own aches and pains, I know it does for me.

You’ll think Santa has come when you open your box of plants your brother is sending and you’ll really have to take some pic’s and share with us what you got. I don’t think there’s anything better for a brom fancier than opening a box of brom plants, unless of course it’s two boxes.

Also Colleen, I just thought I should remind you to plant the Bird’s Nest Fern in a pot, as they will grow very large if you put them directly in the ground; I currently have one here that’s about six feet across and last year I had two others which were eight feet across and which I gave to a friend to fill a “damp spot” in his back yard. The same goes for the tree fern as they have about an eight foot span if in the ground also, but they really do look good with brom’s growing beneath them and gives that real “rain forest“ look and smell.

Shirley – It only seems a short time ago when I was saying (just like you) that I can’t wait until my plants give me pups to swap. Now I have so many it’s getting harder and harder to find homes for them. Swapping is certainly a great way to build up a collection, and as Jen can testify, I almost have my back yard full of brom’s and I’ve bought only a small proportion of them with the bulk having been swaps or ones I’ve grown from seed.

As you say, 17 is a good age for a dog, but as the vet says, old dogs are like old men, they sleep and fart a lot! My old bloke follows me everywhere and never lets me out of his sight. He’s still a very good watch dog and will always bark at something different as long as I wake him up first. I think Jen must have been in the house for about ten minutes before he came down the hall and gave his solitary bark, and once he got to know her, everything was fine and he went back to bed again.

Karen – Pleased to hear you got a good report from the “bone doctor”, one less medical problem to worry about, but then at our age, what would we do if we had nothing to worry about?

I hear what you’re saying about the road just being an incline, but no doubt like me you’re finding that as we get older, slight inclines become hills, and steps become steeper and steeper. However I hope the machines have gone now and you now have some peace and quiet again and can get down amongst your plants to enjoy them and don’t have to be bothered about the hill or the noise.

Jen – I’m glad you enjoyed your visit as much as we enjoyed having you and it was just great to chat non-stop about brom’s. Like you said it seemed like we had known each other for years. There’s just one thing though; when I went down the back yesterday I found two of your plants you had forgotten to take, still sitting there o the grass where we put them so they wouldn’t be forgotten, (that was a waste of time wasn’t it?) One was the Ae Distichantha Glaziovii and the other was the Blanchetiana seedling from U.S. seed. Anyway, not to worry, I’ll send them up to you after you’re back home and settled in again.

Wendy – Pleased to hear you have those mini’s I posted the pic’s of yesterday and I want you to put my name down for a pup of the Neo Shamrock please as I think it’s a great little mini.

From what you say about Bunnings and Masters, it seems like the consumer will end up being the losers and not get better prices after all. If Masters are getting sole control of these products, it means they can charge what they like as they have no competition. A very shrewd business move but also one I think is a bit underhanded as well. It’s not only “Wattyl” paints they’re doing this with, but at this stage it’s also “Brunnings” and “Amgrow” garden products as well as another brand that I haven’t yet been able to find out the name of, and who knows what other products.

Shirley - No I didn't sleep in, I started this the same time as I usually do but had to type slower because as I mentioned yesterday I've lost my voice! Ha Ha

Seriously though, I hadn't finished when we decided to get an early start to the museum with the grandson before his morning nap, was due and boy did he have a wonderful time, however he crashed about five minutes after we got into the car to come home and no doubt had lovely dreams about Thomas the Tank Engine.

That’s it for today and I’ll finish as usual with some pic’s; Firstly “Clyde the Wonder Dog” having his Nanny Nap in his rocking chair. No.2. is Alc. Silver Plum, No. 3. is and Alc. Imperialis seedling as yet unnamed. No. 4. is Alc. Alc. Vinicolour and No. 5. is Alc. Bobby Gold (one of which sold on Ebay the other day for $1500


All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 11, 2012
1:13 AM

Post #9037685

A busy day here in the forum. Where do I start?

Jen, so pleased you and Nev were able to spend some valuable brom time together. Sounds like a good trip.

Wendy, lovely tills there. So pretty. I have a Stricta coming into bloom atm. Cyanea is still blooming. But that's all.

Nev, Clyde looks so peaceful there. And the broms are amazing. I saw that last one on eBay (Bobby Gold). Nice one. How did you get hold of one?

Shirley, glad your shoulder cleared up quickly. I've had mine since September 2010, and have finally come out of the painful stage. Now is stage 2, where its still frozen but far less pain involved. Next stage is where it breaks free. Yeah, bring it on!!!

We had a lovely day today. Went bird watching at the Port of Brisbane, then over to Wynnum. Birds are another passion of mine, and today we saw plenty. Really need a darned good camera for a hobby like that though. Neither Barry's nor my camera is up to it.

Are we expecting more rain? The ants are bringing their eggs into weird places, like my microwave, and my daughter's telephone, among other places. Well, March is still supposed to be the wet season, so it is possible.

Hope everyone has had a lovely day.
Karen

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 11, 2012
1:27 PM

Post #9038270

Hi Karen,

It’s another fine day here today so now I can get back into the potting work that’s had an interruption over the weekend.

I didn’t mean to mislead you with that pic of Alc. ‘Bobby Gold’, it certainly isn’t mine plant, (I wish). I just posted it up to show the beautiful colours and just how much it sold for.

Just passing through quickly today and thought I’d give a change of pace with the pic’s and show a few examples of the variations that are available in the Ae recurvata forms. I’ve been collecting these for some time now as I find they are virtually “bullet proof” here where I live and can take anything you want to throw at them.

No. 1 is just the common Recurvata 'recurvata', No.2 is Recurvata 'Rising Sun', No 3. is Recurvata Benrathii, No. 4. is Recurvata 'Bushing Pineapple' and no. 5 is Recurvata 'Little Surprise'.

I have some others which I'll post tomorrow when I have more time

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 11, 2012
5:54 PM

Post #9038619

Nice Recurvatas there, Nev. Oh well, when Alc. Bobby Gold becomes "common" and hundreds of new ones have taken its place, maybe we can afford one.

I have a beautiful Bill. Hallelujah here that urgently needs repotting, as the pot will no longer stand up. Before I start on it, should I divide the plant (I will still be putting them into the one pot) and will that help them all pup better for doing so, or is this one that should be left intact? I think there are about 5 plants on the one and all are now about adult size, but no new pups forming at all.

Karen

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 12, 2012
4:35 AM

Post #9039055

Hi all,

just a quick look in ... we have had a busy day and I feel really wiped out, so I am looking forward to an early night. It started out nice and sunny here early this morning but by about 10.00 am it was raining again, though we had only scattered showers.

Nev, Clyde looks like a very contented dog, does he have trouble getting up on to his rocking chair ... I would imagine he must suffer from arthritis, like most of us oldies.

When I saw the photo of that Alc Bobby Gold, I thought WOW, I'll have to get hold of one of those ... then I saw the $1500 price tag and I guess it is one I can live without after all. Much as I love broms, I couldn't justify spending that sort of money on one (even I if I had that sort of money to spare). I'm with Karen on that one, I'll wait till they're common !!! Nev, is the Imperialis seedling (No 3) one of yours ... it's lovely too.

Karen, apparently we are supposed to get more rain from now right thru to Easter. I am hoping we don't get too much as we were hoping to get away for a few days later in the week.

Tash, I hope you are feeling much better by now.

Anyway, that's it from me.

Good night, Shirley

DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 12, 2012
4:59 AM

Post #9039073

Shirley, I suspected we were in for more rain as the ants are bringing in their eggs and setting up house in very bad places, like my daughter's telephone of all places. I'm finding them in the microwave and removed some from my computer keyboard today.

The rains are coming! The rains are coming! Everything else has gone mouldy, now I think I'll go mouldly too.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 12, 2012
1:28 PM

Post #9039805

Good morning everyone,

We were lucky with another fine day again yesterday and I managed to get a lot of re-potting done, although it’s still just the “tip of the iceberg” and I have heaps more to do. When collections grow it seems to be an ever continuing job, and if you start dabbling with growing from seed as I have, there’s even more potting to do. Don’t get me wrong, I love re-potting and find it very relaxing work but the problem comes when I have to find somewhere to put the re-potted plants afterwards.

Karen – As for your Hallelujah, I can only tell you what I would do if it was my plant; the final decision is up to you. As I see it from what you’ve told us and what I see in the picture, your plant is now too big for the pot it's in and needs to be relocated. It’s a nice well grown plant and very healthy looking, but I think it lacks a bit of colour. Before I give you any advice I first have a couple of questions for you; firstly, have you been feeding it, and if so what with; secondly, is it growing in a well lit area?

In my opinion, you’re quite correct; it does need re-potting as it has outgrown the pot it’s in. Now depending on what you want, there are two ways you can go about this; you can “re-pot” or simply “pot-on”. For any newbies here who don’t know the difference:

Re-potting; is to remove the plant from the pot it’s in, remove as much of the old mix as possible along with trimming off any obvious dead leaves and roots. Select a pot that will accommodate it for about two years taking into account there will be future pups that need to be allowed for as well, and re-pot it using a well draining potting mix of your choice. The advantages in this are that the plant has new potting mix which will be good for at least another two years. The disadvantages are that the plant does have to be disturbed and will suffer a bit of stress from transplanting; this can be overcome by watering of Seasol.

Potting on; is a much quicker and simpler option where the plant it just removed from its present pot without disturbing the roots or the mix it’s growing in and placed into another pot of larger size and adding new potting mix around the sides of the root ball to fill the pot. The advantages in this are it’s quicker; there is no disturbance of the roots and consequently no transplant stress. The disadvantage is that you still have the major part of your plant growing in old mix which has probably lost all nutritional value at this stage. My preference is to always re-pot, that way you know exactly how much life is left in your mix and when the plant is due to be re-potted again.

As for your question on dividing the plant, again you have two choices, leave it as one big plant or separate it into several individual plants. The advantages of dividing are that you have more plants which will pup quicker now they are no longer attached to each other. The disadvantages are you lose the visual impact that you have with a nice large specimen plant.

Because you say that you want to maintain a large plant, there are two options here also. As you suggest, you can put all the separated plants in the one pot as a group so they still look like one plant in the same pot, or you can re-pot the total plant in its undivided condition. This will still produce pups but not as many as with single plants. To promote more pups on the one large plant, you can cut through the rhizome that attaches the plants to each other once the plant has been re-potted. This will give a similar effect to planting all the single plants together in the one pot, will produce more pups than it would if left intact, and is not as awkward to achieve when positioning several single plants in the one pot, plus the plant looks like it’s still the one plant and hasn’t been disturbed.

Shirley – I’ve had Clyde checked out at the vet’s for arthritis and the vet reckons he’s not troubled with it. He’s just a bit creaky in the bones due to old age, but not in any pain and subsequently not on any medication. He can still get up into his chair OK, eats like a horse and seems just a bit slower than he used to be.

About the Alcantarea pic’s, I should have made it clear, the Bobby Gold was from Ebay and owned by Peter Tristram (I think), and the others belong to Peter Coyle of New Zealand. Just for a change of pace, all of the Ae. Recurvatas in yesterday’s lot were my plants.

As for the rain, well the long range weather forecast for down here is for rain every day in March, so they’ve already got that wrong as we’ve just had two fine days and today is fine as well!

I’ll finish now with the last of Peter Coyle's pictures ...No.1 Neoregelia Yin, No.2 Neoregelia Yang, (both of these are from the crossing of Neo. carolinae x Neo. Carcharodon) No.3. Neoregelia Wild Tiger, No.4. Neoregelia Zonata x Carcharadon Tiger, No. 5 Neoregelia Lillie Marlene

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 12, 2012
2:40 PM

Post #9039899

Nev, thank you for explaining all that. To answer your question, no I don't feed it at all, and because we've had a summer of cloud cover and lots of rain, I put the plant under cover so it wouldn't drown. This does mean less light. I thought it was better to lose some colour than to lose the plant to rot. I've had to do this with quite a few plants in the rain, and I've been lucky that none have rotted. However, they have lost colour. Apparently we can expect more cloudy and wet weather to come. So I can't see the plants regaining their colour now until Spring, as in Winter I get no sun here at all.

I'd like to see Hallelujah double in size next season, so may cut through the rizome, as you described. Even green, it is still a beautiful plant. I hope all my bills will grow so well.

Karen

I have a mystery plant here, about the size of a Fireball. I know its hard to get names for many hybrids, but someone may recognize it. It will eventually get a lot more pink through it like the mother plant shown in the second picture.

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perke_patch

March 13, 2012
3:26 AM

Post #9040624

Karen your little mini could be fireball variegated. If it is this you have one with a very defined variegation. Ours is very faint and from a distance it just looks like fireball, but when you get close you can see the stripes in it.

As for your hallelujah, we have them growing out in the open in full sun. They are almost bullet proof and tough as old boots. if we leave them together in the one pot we always snip between them so they pup up more. It also helps when you go to divide as they are already individuals with possibly pups. Whenever we put them out for sale they always go first morning. Often we don't put them out but because they are out in the open in full view the colours attract the eye so we get asked for them whether they are out or not. I would repot them into a bigger pot then in a few weeks when it is settled in its new home I would snip between the individual plants to encourage pupping.

It seems I haven't been around since the weekend as there is no entry from me. I can only say I have had the girls again so busy as. I loved the time I had with them again and we had a birthday party last night for Rylee's first as it is on Thursday and we will not see her. She had a ball with her new toys and the yummy cream cake. They went home to Toowoomba this morning so my time is mine again. Although we spent all day today running after Johnny's mum. She had a fall early yesterday mornin and her head went through the glass TV cabinet ... all 3 layers of glass. The TV gracefully fell from one layer to the next and landed on its stand on the bare floor in amongst the shards of glass. Anyway we were sitting on the verandah with Emily having our early morning cuppa when we got the phone call that she was on the way to the hospital in an ambulance. Johnny waited till after 9am to go there to see how she was and she was still in emergency waiting to be seen. She was OK but very confused and rambling about what happened. He ended up leaving her there to doze and his sister turned up before lunch and stayed with her till she was seen. He went back mid afternoon but she was already on the way back to the home. He went to visit her this morning early and she was refusing to believe the staff that she had had a fall at all. She thought they were tricking her and wondered where her TV cabinet was. We spent all day today after the girls left finding another TV cabinet that had no glass in it. We even purchased those plastic corners from a baby shop to stick on the corners in case. She seemed much more coherant this afternoon when I took the cabinet over and set up the TV on the top of it instead of the floor. She has now been upgraded from low care red to low care blue where she is checked much more often and has to have a nurse for toilet or showers. She has been told she must not go without someone in attendance. Next step is upgraded to high care so it is in her interest to tow the line. Whether she remembers this or not is another ??????.

We've been getting showers each night with lovely warm days this week. I gave Jen's plants a bit of water today so of course we have already had a good shower tonight. Murphey's law that right? And I have discovered that the wet weather lately has been all my fault. Every time I open a new packet of Extra gum we get wet weather and they sweat and I have to dump them. I wait a week or so and the weather is fine so I open another packet and yep rain again, sweating gum and dumped another packet. Last weekend I opened another packet and yep more showers at night mainly. So far they haven't sweated enough to make them bin material but wait for it. LOL.

Anyhow I'm for an early night now. Might be off the radar end of this week as we are going to Hervey Bay early... maybe Thursday.

Wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 13, 2012
5:01 AM

Post #9040670

Evening everyone,

The rains are coming! The rains are coming! Oh Karen, I hope you are wrong, wrong, wrong …

Nev, good to hear you are having fine weather. Please send a week of nice fine days north.

We have made the decision … rain or shine, to head off to Moore Park (near Bundy) tomorrow morning for a week or so. We haven’t been there before but it’s on the coast and sounds very nice. We loaded up the caravan today with enough food and clothes to last a month, come autumn, winter or summer.

We were lucky enough to get a beachfront site in the caravan park on short notice and have friends joining us for a few days on Thursday or Friday so it should be good … the only negative likely to be bad weather.

We will be taking the laptop and modem so I can still access the forum and keep in touch, that’s assuming there is internet service available. If I don’t post for the next week, please don’t write me off … I will be back the week after.

Wendy, you posted while I was typing so I will add to my post before sending it ...

Just reading that your grand daughter, Rylee’s birthday is on Thursday. Our grand daughter, Raylee’s birthday is also on Thursday. We had a little bit of a party for her on Sunday because we were not sure whether we would be going away before her birthday. She was not well when they visited us on Sunday and the poor little darling is now in hospital with gastro, though is on the mend and should be home in time for her birthday on Thursday.

Sorry to hear that Johnny’s mum had an accident and hope she is well on the mend too.

And Wendy, please do me a favour and DO NOT open a new packet of Extra gum for at least a week. Since you will be visiting Hervey Bay, which is not too far away from where we will be staying, that should ensure fine weather for us both. LOL

Anyway, I too am planning an early night to get a reasonably early start in the morning.

Bye for now, Shirley

splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 13, 2012
1:35 PM

Post #9041354

Good morning everyone,

Fine day again yesterday and I managed to get a bit more re-potting done, although I had a bit of running around to do also. As well as the usual errands, I went to see my old mate (93) who I visit regularly and took him a few containers of soup I had made, as his own bloody family don’t do anything for him. Just recently they started being nice to him for a change and helped clean up his garden before brow beating him into taking out a mortgage on his home to lend them money to help them with what they told him was a “financial crisis”. Three weeks later they were driving a brand new Toyota Land Cruiser and haven’t been back to visit since...bast...ds!

Sorry about that, I’ll get down off the soap box now and back onto the topic of brom’s

Karen – As far as an ID for your plant goes, it’s very difficult as a good many variegated plants are very unstable; by this I mean that the amount of variegations and width of the stripes vary from plant to plant and season to season as does the intensity of the colour. Take this into account combined with the fact that you have variations caused by the various growing conditions as well and it’s almost an impossible task to accurately identify these unstable plants. I personally have about ten different variegated miniatures from different sources with different names and they all look the same, although they were different when I first got them. I guess the bottom line is, if you like it, just enjoy it and accept that many NOIDS will forever remain NOIDS, but this still doesn’t detract from their appeal as there are many of these plants which are nicer than a lot of the registered named varieties.

Wendy – it’s great to see the “littlies” enjoying their birthdays isn’t it? Our little 2 year old grandson recently had his birthday party and we were all entertained just watching the antics of him and his little friends, I don’t know when I last laughed so much.

Sorry to hear about Johnny’s Mum having a fall, it seems to be a very common thing with us all as we get older and I’m sure everyone can now see how justified you were to move her into care when you did, as the result of the fall could have had much more serious consequences had it happened when she was still living alone in her home. It’s good to see her care level has been upgraded, but as you say, will she remember to let them know when she needs to shower or go to the toilet. I think apart the her health problems, all of these oldies have something in common; it's called "stubbornness", they are still fiercely independent and see that asking for help is a weakness, I’ve seen it so many times in our family as well as others.

Shirley – I’ve sent in the message for you and ordered fine weather for the next week so you should be OK during your little break, as long as Wendy stays away from the Extra Gums!

I’ve never been to Bunderburg, but I’m told there are some very good brom growers in that area and perhaps Wendy or someone else could tell you who they are so you could perhaps ring and arrange a visit and a chat.

Finally, good day to the other members of the gang who didn’t make it onto the net this morning and to any others who are still unwell, hurry up and get better soon, we’d all like to see you back.

That’s about it and I’ll just finish with a few more pic’s. This time No.1 Neo. Meyendorfii (Mini), No.2 Neo. Meyendorfii variegata (Mini), No.3 Neo. Mr. O'Dean, No.4. Neo. 'Orange Glow', No. 5. Neo. Painted Lady (sport) x Neo. Grace. (One of my own crosses)

All the best, Nev.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 14, 2012
11:15 AM

Post #9042574

Hi anyone out there in D.G. Land?

I guess if there isn't, there's not much point in posting pic's of brom's

All the best, Nev.
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 14, 2012
2:04 PM

Post #9042766

Hello all. Can't post much, not well. Shoulder is sore and heart is playing up. Just resting and swallowing pills. Keep posting, I like to read, just can't sit here long.
Karen
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 14, 2012
4:01 PM

Post #9042840

Hi all. I'm up to my armpits with brom Mummas at the moment. John has brought up 2 large boxes full of them pups and all. Not fancy ones but still nice. No names though. Have been very busy while John's been here. The old tank is now off the stand and cut into a lizard home and maybe a vegie garden. The space is now clear for the new SH. Oh boy do I need a new SH. lol Nev the seedlings are coming along, still very small at this stage but alive and looking quite healthy. I'm so glad that they aren't growing too quickly as I have nowhere to pot them up to yet. Karen take care. Nev I love the Neo Mr O'Dean. Have you got one of them? The person who paid $1,500 for that brom must have very little to spend their money on, what do you think? All of that guy's broms were lovely but a bit pricey for me. Well must go and do some work. Colleen

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 14, 2012
9:20 PM

Post #9043214

Still here and learning. I've no photos to offer but am still oooohing and aaaaahing. My favorite was Nevs' Neo Lillie Marlene. Very charming.

$1500 for a brom makes me think our money is worth less and less.

Weather is hot and tempting but winter is not over yet, I am sure so I am resisting moving plants outdoors.

Karen ~ hope you get to perking better. Hoping Colleen gets a new shade house (and I want to see photos of it) and Nev gets over feeling all alone. lol

Occupied but between sets of winter snowbird visitors from the north. They do take up my spare time... Have a good day everyone. Kristi
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 15, 2012
1:22 PM

Post #9043903

Good morning everyone,

It’s good to see a few of you have come out of the woodwork since I last wrote. I’m able to report that it was a fine day here again yesterday and I managed to get a bit of plant sorting out done. My daughter and her sister-in-law are having a combined garage sale at the weekend and asked me if I could take some brom’s over so she had a bit more variety of saleable items. I thought I’d just have a bit of a look through the plantation and pick out a dozen or so plants and that would be that, but when I started going through the plants I thought, if I’ve got to take a few, why not fill the ute up and take a decent load over.

I got stuck in and selected sixty established Neo pups in 10cm pots which are all showing about half colour and sixty flowering Neo’s in 14cm. Pots. A few Aechmea Chianti var Jean (which are in flower at the moment), a J.C. Super Star also in flower, a selection of twenty Vrieseas in flower and two quite large plants; Vr Hieroglyphica with a two foot leaf spread and Vr. Phillippo Cobergii in flower which is four feet high. If I can sell a few of these I will make a bit more space and possibly consider doing it again.

The object of the exercise is to help my daughter with more variety of saleable items as well as downsizing my collection a bit. (I can’t even see where I’ve taken them from). I’ve kept the prices to what I think are pretty reasonable with the 10cm pot size plants $5 and the 14cm pot size $10 and the hieroglyphica and Phillippo Cobergii $20 each. So I guess I’ll just have to wait and see what happens and that the forecast rain stays away. They forecast rain for all week and so far we’ve had nothing but sunny days, so fingers crossed for it to continue.

Karen - Sorry to hear you’re not feeling well and it’s best you take it easy for a while and no more walking up that hill from the bus stop. Next time they won’t let you off at your stop, stay on the bus until it gets right back to the depot and then go and complain to the manager and demand a taxi home with a threat of going to the newspaper if your demands are not met. This will stir things up and really bring this thing to a head once and for all. (Gee I wish I were in your shoes, I love a good stir when it’s for a good cause).

Colleen – Glad to hear things are still moving forward with your “make over”; are the boys into collecting lizards now? And how do you make a lizard home from an old water tank? I know they make good veg. gardens as my old mate has one and we made it about two feet high to save him having to bend down to weed it and he thinks it’s great.

As for the plants with the high prices, I think we must consider that these, especially the variegated Alcantarea are pretty unique and probably the only one for sale anywhere at this stage. I think he probably just puts them on an Ebay auction to get an idea of just what collectors are prepared to pay; then he knows how much to charge for others as they become available . Because it’s so rare, possibly the buyer will have it mass produced by tissue culture and then sell them in their thousands all over the country for a much reduced rate. This then makes him/her a handsome profit and brings it within the price range of the average brom fancier.

There are of course risks involved for the person who wants to do this as the plant could die or the tissue cultured plants may not grow properly and could turn out deformed as they sometimes do, or any number of things could happen to the little plants on their way to a saleable size so it is still a bit of a gamble, just like buying a lottery ticket but with perhaps better odds.

Kristi – Good to hear you’re still looking in and enjoying our discussions and pic’s and it’s interesting that you’re just starting to come out of winter over there and we’re just going into autumn. What sort of birds are your winter snowbird visitors from the north? Do they just migrate there to breed in the warmer climate?

The little mini Neo Lillie Marlene wasn’t my plant but was one from that group of NZ pictures that I have been posting. I must chase around and find out if it’s in Australia yet as I also think it’s a great little plant and it does have such a great compact shape, and I’d really like to have one in my collection.

Well I guess that’s it again for today and I’ll finish off with a few more pictures: No. 1 Neoregelia 'Lady Luck', No. 2. Neoregelia Marmorata, No. 3. Guzmania Crimson Wonder, No. 4. Guzmania 'Cherry Ripe', No.5 Vriesea 'Splendriet'

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 15, 2012
7:18 PM

Post #9044363

Nev, love that Lady Luck neo. with its pink and gold leaves. I like the flowers on guz's, but I've never been drawn to the plant, so I've never added one to my brom collection.

Am feeling so much better today. I get a thing called Arterial Fibrillation from time to time and it is the most awful feeling, I can tell you. I have medication for it, and luckily, this time it worked. Last time I had to have it in huge doses via IV. And if that doesn't work, they put you under and give you electric shocks to try to stabilize the heartbeat. I really never want to go that far. So far, all attacks have lasted 48 hours, then cleared up, and this was no exception.

My garden is a bit neglected at the moment. Though I did water yesterday (then it poured rain). I shouldn't need to water today as everything looks wet enough, and more rain is expected this afternoon. Though my broms have faded some in colour due to the weird weather, I still get such pleasure looking through my window and seeing the colour still there.

Hope everyone has a fab. day. Wendy, did you say you were going away this weekend?

Karen

My Alcantarea Extensa pup has had a pup of its own. Seems too young for this, but here it is...

Also a noid that has coloured up now I've put it in a frangipanni tree...

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 15, 2012
9:51 PM

Post #9044519

Hi everyone. Karen I'm glad that you're feeling better. I think both Shirley and Wendy were going away. Did Wendy have her sale last weekend or did she put it off? Nev my Neo mamorata isn't dark pink like that. I'll take a pic later and let you see. Will also get pics of the lizard tank. We've had some more rain and by the way the ants have been acting this year I think we might be in for a wet one. It can rain at night and let me get outside to do things in the daytime if it likes. Kristi, yes, I would like to know what snowbirds are too please. Haven't taken any new pics for a few days so will put up some old ones. Colleen

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 16, 2012
4:38 AM

Post #9044628

I'm sorry, snowbirds is a term used here in the south for folks (usually kinfolk) that live in the northern climates that have harsh winters. They tend to take their vacations in winter and travel to the sunny south and when one has family that lives in the south, the trip is financially more feasible. We get even in summer and vacation in the north.

Sorry for not being more clear... I'd far rather have my feathered friends at the feeder.

Not a pretty plant photo but to illustrate how unusually warm we are for March... this is a nonpoisonous spreading adder found on our sidewalk when we came home from work last night. They are not common but like to play possum. When bothered, they spread the neck and hiss. Then will roll upside down and play dead. When I scooped him up and moved him to the woods, he flopped upside down every time I tried to right him. Very neat to see...

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 16, 2012
12:19 PM

Post #9045070

Good morning everyone,

Well here we are, Saturday already and the day of my daughter’s garage sale and where I could hopefully have sold a few brom’s, but it looks like it’s not to happen as the rain’s returned and it’s raining now and has been pouring all night, hardy the weather for people to go to garage sales!...bugger.

Karen – Yes Lady Luck is a nice plant and something just a little bit different from the usual Neoregelias. It was one I got from Sue in a swap last year and I’m quite pleased with the way it’s coloured up, not as good as it does further north, but not bad for down here

I know what you mean by Arterial Fibrillation, as I have a similar problem but fortunately it only occurred occasionally and hasn’t occurred at all since I’ve been taking Warfarin to keep my blood thin, so fingers crossed. I agree with you, it’s the most horrible feeling and hard to explain except to say it makes you feel really “rotten”.

That’s a good size pup from your Alcantarea, I only ever seem to get spindly little grass pups on mine, and there just seems to be a never ending supply of them. I was waiting for them to get a bit of size before I removed them, but a friend from Queensland says I should remove them while they are small and showed me pic’s of ones he had removed and were growing in a community pot. They weren’t very big at all and he said when he first took them they weren’t much larger than a “matchstick”. I think it may have something to do with the warmer climate up in Queensland as I’m sure if I took them that small they would surely all die down here.

Colleen – Yes that little brom I posted with the name “Marmorata” was one I bought as I liked it because of the colour and the fact that it was quite small and compact. I wondered about the name at the time, but then I know that Marmorata can come in different forms and not having much knowledge of this plant I just accepted that the name was correct. My other Marmorata is a much different colour and a very large plant which leads me to believe that the small one could either be incorrectly named or possibly be a Marmorata hybrid. It does seem like a lot of growers who have NOID’s will just call them Marmorata as long as they are spotted, however until I can find a definite ID I’m afraid it stays with the name I bought it under.

Kristi – Well I was way off the track when I though snowbirds were birds that had migrated to the warmer climate wasn’t I? I was recently reading a post on another forum about Alcantareas and read a post from a woman who came from Canada and who was holidaying in Florida during the winter (I suppose she could be called a “Snowbird”) but it was unbelievable what she claims to have done and then posts it for the entire world to see. If you want a bit of a laugh check out the entry by diane_V toward the end of the following thread: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/bromeliad/msg0907541722202.html?22

That’s certainly a weird sort of snake you speak of Kristi, how large do they get? I wish the Australian snakes were more like that instead of being some of the most aggressive and venomous in the world and then people wouldn’t be so inclined to kill them as soon as they see them.

I’ll finish with a few pic’s, firstly the Alcantarea grass pups I spoke about in Karen’s post (above). No. 2 is Neo. Amazing Grace (Dark form), No. 3. Neo. Apricot Nectar, No. 4. Guzmania Sanguinea, No. 5. Aechmea Mend (Inverta).

All the best, Nev.

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 16, 2012
6:27 PM

Post #9045477

Nev ~ I had read the earlier posts on that thread. Loved the gorgeous bromeliad photos shown there.

Anyway, I was horrified to read as that woman posted that she blatantly helped herself to others' property. I must say thank you for dressing her down about her wayward behavior.

Not all 'snowbirds' are like that, thankfully. I can only imagine how angered she would be if she were to return to Florida next fall to find her own plants had been harvested by thieves. That would serve her right but she would never understand.

On the snake, this is only the second spreading adder I've seen and it was about 18" long. I think it was quite large for that type of snake. We do have four types of poisonous snakes here. I've learned to identify them and realize their place in nature. On the other hand, if there is a threat to us or our pets and a poisonous one can't be relocated, I will indeed terminate them.

Hope everyone has a good day, Kristi
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 17, 2012
1:59 AM

Post #9045735

Snakes alive! Glad I don't get snakes here. I've had one, a poisonous brown, but it had been driven out of its habitat by a sand mining company who set up shop locally. Fortunately, they are gone now, but lords alone knows what damage they did to to the swamp and its wild life.

Nev, I am curious about those grass pups. I got a very badly damaged, very baby Alcantarea Vinicolour at one of Wendy's sales, and it had a grass pup attached but no leaves of its own. The pup quickly withered and died, and I was sure I'd lost the lot, but the little plant struggled on, and is now showing off the odd new, healthy looking leaf. Another green spot is forming at the base and though I can't be sure yet, another grass pup may be forming. I am interested in trying to save it (if it is one) this time.

The Vinicolour pups for sale were from a friend of Wendy's, and she only had that one left, so I thought I'd give it a chance. She did have a fully coloured, mature plant on display, and it was really lovely, so I do hope mine will do well here.

Karen
perke_patch

March 17, 2012
2:11 AM

Post #9045737

Hi everyone.
Yes I did go away for the weekend but I'm home again now. I thank heavens that I decided we should go up on Thursday instead of waiting as I was able to see dad while he was still at home and able to talk although he was in his wheelchair being fed by my niece. We had a bit of a visit till he wanted to go back to bed. Later that afternoon he went downhill rapidly and my sister called an ambulance. After we had tea I went to the hospital and joined my sister waiting for him to be assessed in emergency. We held a hand each and kept him from being too restless during his many examinations and tests. We stayed with him till after midnight when we knew what was happening and left when he went to sleep. He was still able to acknowledge that we were there. The next morning he was relocated by ambulance to the palliative care hospital in Maryborough. I went with my sister to see him admitted there and again examined and assessed. We were told that he had full renal failure and a mass in his stomach. Anyway we completed a DNR order and they put in a morphein infuser in his stomach . When we left at lunchtime we were still able to wake him to say we were leaving. He acknowledged and kissed me when I said goodbye. I told him I would call in on our way back to Brisbane this morning but when I went with 2 of my sons early this morning he was in a coma and very crackly breathing. They said probably 24 to 48 hours would see him gone. It was so cruel to see him gasping and making so much noise. If we kept an animal like that we would be locked up and heavily fined but it's OK to do that to an elderly person. My oldest son wished he didn't see him like that, but we didn't think he would deteriorate so quickly. Anyhow I rang my brother and other sister and told them it was probably too late to be able to say goodbye and be acknowledged and left it to them whether to make the journey from Brisbane to just stand beside his bed and see him like that. Now it is just a wait for that final breath. My younger sister will sit with him tomorrow onwards till the end. I don't know how she can do it but she did with mum also. I can't watch that struggle for breath. So now we are looking at another trip to Hervey Bay towards the end of the week.

We haven't had a sale yet but at the moment we're planning for 31st and 1st. If Shirley is getting the weather we had in Hervey Bay today she may not get home for a while as the rain was bucketing down so heavy up there you could hardly see the road in front of you. WE saw 3 cars hit puddles of water and lose control, ending up on their side or roof... and that was between Hervey Bay and Gympie. Neer seen such heavy rain.

Anyway I'll check in again later. Must see what is in the fridge for tea now.

Pic is aechmea machroclamys which is in flower at the moment but no longer looking as nice as this.
Wendy

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 17, 2012
2:37 AM

Post #9045747

Wendy, I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad. I always think that they may still be able to hear you even if they can't acknowledge you.On a brighter note the weather has been absolutely beautiful here today. Quite cool first thing this morning though, I had to put a jacket on . Kristi I don't care whether that snake is venomous or not, it would still scare the living daylights out of me. Ugh give me a red backed spider any day. Not much new going on but I do have 4 yes 4 lovely coloured pups on Predator. I have 7 spindley pups on Ralph Davies and lots of other pups on plants that seem to be growing daily now. Hurry up with the new SH please John. I hope everyone is feeling okay and not too much rain up your way. Take care. I'll be back tomorrow. Colleen
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 17, 2012
1:51 PM

Post #9046263

Hi everyone,

Well the rain finally stopped at about half past twelve yesterday, thirty minutes after the end of our garage sale which only went from 7.00 til 12.00. It poured rain pretty solidly the whole time and would you believe there were still people coming to see what we had, even in the pouring rain. One bloke was sticking his head over the gate at six in the morning (with a torch) wanting to know could he come in and have a look then. I know from past experience that these people only come to buy stuff that they can take to the Dapto Markets the next day and re-sell and I said to him that we had advertised a seven o’clock start and that’s when the gates would open otherwise it wasn’t fair to people who came at the right time. He accepted this but still wasn’t very happy about it.

Everything that was on tables and we had planned to position around the yard had to be pushed into a gazebo and one corner of the garage out of the rain which was less than useless as access wasn’t easy; I had the brom’s on a couple of large tables beneath a large shade cloth roof and fortunately the rain didn’t hurt them, in fact it made them look even better, but there weren’t many people and I only sold less than a hundred dollars worth and my daughter sold about three hundred dollars worth of her stuff. So better than nothing I suppose but not much when you think of how it could have been without the rain.

Kristi – Yes I think that woman must have got the message even though she did seem a “bit thick” to have dobbed herself in like that, but she didn’t reply and another bloke had a go at her after me as well, so hopefully she will think twice before she does it again.

Thanks for explaining about the snake, it seems like they would be a very good, interesting non-venomous pet for someone to keep who was that way inclined; however, I’m not one of them. I treat all dangerous animals and reptiles the same and don’t try to interfere with them as I’ve found that the dangerous ones only seems to want to bite you if you are seen as a threat. Pretty well all snake and spider bites are caused when someone either steps on them, is trying to catch them or trying to kill them and I’ve found if you leave them alone they will leave you alone, obviously like Kristi says, if they are threatening you, your children or pets, that’s a different thing and you have to kill them; even though in Australia it is illegal.

Karen – I don’t know a lot about grass pups, but I have learned that if you leave them for too long they just seem to whither up and die and that’s why they are usually taken off early. I have some info. about them somewhere and I’ll try and find it and email it to you (and anyone else who would like it as well). I would personally leave them until they are at least 2” high, but then being in Brisbane, your temperatures would be warmer than ours and you could probably get away with removing them smaller. I have also found that their roots seem to go around the mother plant rather than down into the mix so you need to be careful not do break them when removing the pups.

Wendy – Sorry to hear about your Dad, but you can take some comfort from the fact that he will know when you are there talking to him and he can still hear you. A doctor once told me that a person’s sense of hearing is the last sense to stop working; that’s why when I worked in the ambulance we were always taught not to discuss an unconscious patient’s condition within earshot of them as they could still hear you and it could aggravate their condition even more.

Colleen – Good to hear you at least are getting nice weather to make your brom’s grow. Four pups on your Predator uh!, been bumping up the fertilizer a bit, have you? I know that if you increase the fertilizer to your old Mother plants they will often produce multiple pups; this is an old nurseryman’s trick. I tried it once on an old Neo Nobel Descent Mother plant and she produced eight pups all at the same time; I have also done it on Aechmeas and Vriesea ospinae with similar results, so it does work.

That’s about it for today’s news, and now a few pic’s No. 1. Aechmea Nudicaulis Flava- marginata, No. 2. Neoregelia ‘Knockout’, No. 3, Neoregelia ‘Cheery day’, No. 4. Neoregelia Painted Lady (sport) x Ferny Grove (seedling) and No. 5. Neoregelia Noble Descent Too.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 17, 2012
2:11 PM

Post #9046283

Hello everyone. I know I dont post much, but always enjoy reading and learning from you all.
I am not quite as into the broms as my other plants . I dont have the room anyway. I need to have most in the greenhouse because of the wet cold winters.
I would like to put some back outside in the open shadehouse. When I say open, it has 2 complete sides & 2 half sides of shadecloth. The 2 half sides are left open for access to get around as the shadehouse is built onto the veranda at the back of the house.
I have some broms already in there that never went into the greenhouse.
A few hardy bils and a couple of other tough ones similar to a. Mary Brett and Lucky Stripes. They have survived outside for a few years now and are getting quite large.
I have a few in the greenhouse that are getting way too big, so I thought I would move all the mummas down the back and put out the bigger plants in the shadehouse. I have a alcanterea imperialis Rubra which is getting to be too large to get around and also very large blanchetiana.
I am not sure of what else I could move so was wondering if I put up a list of the bigger ones, hopefully someone could tell me what will live outside best.
I have not fertilised the broms and after reading about what you all do, I would like advice on that too, please.

I also have a few tillandsias which I like, but which are all slowly dying off one by one. I would like to give them a better home as I dont want them to all die. If anyone wants to swap them all for maybe a hardy brom or something, I will be happy to send them anywhere.

I will get a few pics and names and post later.
Jean.
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 17, 2012
2:29 PM

Post #9046302

Hi everyone on this beautiful morning. Just had to come in and let you know Nev, I don't fertise my broms at all so what's happening out there in the SH is all due to the watering and good luck. Lovely pics as usual. I'll go and take some pics now. Colleen
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 17, 2012
2:41 PM

Post #9046315

Good morning everyone. What a wet, grey day.

Wendy, I am so sorry about your Dad. It is such a hard time for the family, the waiting. I hope he passes over peacefully with no distress.

Not sure what to do today. Wanted to get some old fabrics boxed and over to Colleen's sister, but the weather may put a stop to that idea. See how we go though. Have some large potting jobs to do that I've been putting off simply because of the size of the pots. But I should do them while Barry is here to help.

Nev, thank you re info on the grass pups. Will wait and see if that little spot of green becomes one.

Hope everyone's day is a good one and that the weather is kind to you all. I feel for Tash up north, and everyone who lives at the top end. I know torrential rain is seasonal there but I've been up there during it and its no fun.

Karen




















77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 17, 2012
4:09 PM

Post #9046421

Back again with tillandsia pics. ..I hope I have the names right.
harrisii, juncea, butzii, tricolor, an unknown.

These I want to swap to anyone who can give them a warmer home.

Jean

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 17, 2012
4:12 PM

Post #9046425

What do you want to swap for Jean? Anything in particular? Colleen
77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 17, 2012
4:20 PM

Post #9046433

The rest of the tills.. .. velickiana and velutiana
There is also a bulbosa, which I ddint get a pic of because it was hiding behind a prickly brom.
The last pic is the brom house.
..

As I mentioned in previous post , these are the larger broms I need to move , so would they stand up to living out in the shadehouse permanently ?
aechmeas... Orlandiana, Burgundy, Bert, ...
neos... Beefsteak, Macwilliamsii, Royal Robe, Debbie, Gamosepala.

I also have quite a few unnamed large broms which I will put out and they will just have to survive as they are getting quite big.
I am putting the mothers that have had pups and are looking old, down in the back with the epis where they will be under cover and maybe will put out more pups.
Many of the neos have flowered this year , but I see no sign of pups. Do they usually pup after flowering as most have never had a pup even before flowering.?

Thanks for any help with these .
Jean.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 17, 2012
4:23 PM

Post #9046435

Colleen, I do love the tills but as the poor things look like they hate my cold I want them to be warm somewhere.
I would swap for another type of plant instead of broms. . Dmail me and we can work something out.
Jean.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 18, 2012
2:04 PM

Post #9047560

Hi everyone,

Jean – As far as cultural advice goes in your case, it would help a lot if you could give us a better idea about your climate such as your coldest and hottest temperatures for example. Do you get snow where you live and how much shade does your garden get? Some pic’s of the area would be a great help as well. I’m not a Tilly grower and only understand a few basics, but I know they do like bright light and warmth, very good air circulation and to be kept a bit on the dry side. The best indication of watering is the foliage colour, if it is a greenish colour they are getting too much water, as a healthy plant with the right light and watering conditions should be a silvery grey colour.

Although Alcantarea Imperialis and Aechmea Blanchetiana can withstand very strong light, they will both suffer cold damage from freezing conditions if not given shelter. Generally any plants with a leaf colour of burgundy or bi-coloured (green on top and burgundy beneath) will also suffer cold damage if not protected from the elements. As a general rule plants with thick, stiff leaves will stand up to harsher weather conditions than will the softer leaved varieties. As far as toughness goes, Aechmeas Orlandiana and Bert are very tough and could probably withstand conditions without much protection, as would Ae. Gamosepala, and Neo’s Beefsteak and McWilliamsii. I think Neo Royal Robe and Debbie would probably suffer from the cold as would Ae Burgundy.

Feeding is not an absolute necessity as the plants will grow without it: but they will definitely grow better with it. If you choose to feed; brom’s really need low Nitrogen and High Potassium fertilizers. This will keep the colour in the coloured leaf varieties and promote flowering in the types that are grown for their flowers such as Guzmanias, vrieseas and some Aechmeas. High Nitrogen fertilizers will give you plenty of growth at the expense of colour. Personally I feed according to the instructions on the fertilizer I’m using.

However, feeding “little and often” seems to be the generally accepted rule for the best results. e.g. If the directions say 5gm per 4 litres of water given monthly, it’s better to give 2.5gm per 4 litres of water each two weeks or if you want to go lighter even still, 1.25 gm per 4 litres of water each week. This is fine if you have lots of time to do it, but we don’t all have this time available. I find this system very good for the smaller seedlings.

Although it’s not classed as a fertilizer, I find that a monthly dose of (the original) Seasol is a great boost to all plants. See ... http://www.seasol.com.au/ It is made from Kelp Seaweed and is a renewable natural resource which is safe for all plants. It is for want of a better word a “tonic” which helps plants to overcome disease and stress and also increases their ability to withstand higher and lower than normal temperatures up to an extra four degrees.

As for producing pups on Mother Plants that have already flowered, Neo’s sometimes pup before flowering but for the most part they will pup after flowering. To encourage this I usually give them a double dose of fertilizer after flowering which usually pushes them to pup more frequently and in greater numbers.

Hopefully some of the other growers on this site will share their knowledge with you as well, especially those who grow Tillandsias.

Colleen – For plants that aren’t fertilised, your plants look exceptionally happy and healthy. What’s your secret, do you talk or sing to them? Come on “spill the beans” and let us all in on your little secrets!

Karen – Glad you found the info on grass pups helpful and hopefully it will answer a lot of your questions.

Wendy – I’m sure we are all thinking of you during this very hard time and if you need to talk, feel free to email me at any time as talking with someone “outside the square” often helps you feel a bit better.

That’s it from me and here’s a few pic’s to finish off with, the first three are some pic’s of a friend's Tillandsia which I hadn’t seen before but is a really attractive plant, it's Tillandsia Multicaulis (Multi meaning many and caulis meaning stems) Pic. No.4 is Aechmea leptantha and No. 5. is Aechmea spectabilis. These pictures are not of my plants but of a friend's plants who I got the seed from to grow my seedlings. I now have about twenty of each about half grown and available for sale or swap.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 18, 2012
2:27 PM

Post #9047608

Thanks for all that info, Nev. I am in southwest Vic , which doesnt see snow but we do get the odd frost. Usually not too bad. All the broms I have in the shadehouse seem to handle the conditions well. I must have known something when i left these ones out of the green house as they are mostly strong green ones plus the bils, Gerda and Queens Tears. Nothing bothers them
I will put out all the larger ones from the greenhouse and they should be okay as this shadehouse is away from the side that does get any frost coming in.
It is also under the high canopy of a eucalypt which should help. Plenty of light though.
I will try a bit of Seasol on the broms , but they do seem to do okay without any help. The red ones can all stay in the greenhouse .

My tils are a nice grey green color but seem to just up and die one by one. I think it may be the lack of enough air circulation. They will do better when they are in a new home where its warmer . They are shut in the greenhouse in cold weather which is not good for them.

Always help to be found here, so thank you
Jean.
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 18, 2012
3:06 PM

Post #9047655

Good morning everyone.

Wendy, just want to add my condolences and deepest sympathy on the loss of your father. You must be so relieved that you got to see him in time. If there is anything I can do let me know.

Nev, it is interesting about the grass pups. I've never had a plant with those before, and so lost my one and only out of sheer ignorance. What amazes me is how a tiny pup can have pups. Ah well, I'm armed with information now if it has more. Thank you for the links you sent.

More rains expected, getting heavier as the days pass. Even my brain feels soggy, just from the humidity in the air. The rain hasn't really started yet. Oh, says she as it just starts pitter-pattering outside now. Winds are forecast as well, though it is quite still at the moment, just very cool.

Looks like northern Qld. is thoroughly drenched and getting more. So glad I don't live up there anymore.

Hope everyone has a lovely day, despite the weathers you all are having.

Karen
A bit OT, but this little fellow was taking a nap in my backyard yesterday. I keep a heap of dirt, grass clippings and sticks down there which the Blue Tongue lizards use to burrow into and breed. Hadn't seen one for a while, but obviously they are still around.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 18, 2012
4:20 PM

Post #9047741

Hi everyone. Nev I don't do anything special for my broms I water and tell them they are beautiful and gee you've grown and oh you're a Mumma now. lol If anyone was listening they would think there is a mad woman living here. I did have Predator living in a palm tree stump. I don't know if that's why. I also had Blushing Tiger in one too and got 2 Mummas, and 5 pups with another little one coming. I have put the pup with the little node back in there and potted the rest. Predator is now in a big pot and the 4 pups are potted too. Will have to find something else to go in the palm stump. Maybe one of your seedlings that I have here. Will let you know what I decide. That Thunderbird X might look good. Well everyone must get moving. Another beautiful day here slight breeze but not at all cold. Colleen

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perke_patch

March 19, 2012
6:10 AM

Post #9048343

Hi everyone. Sorry I didn't make it onto the computer last night as I had the girls here overnight and Rylee's cot goes into the office so no computer while the baby sleeps. She is 1 now and today she was trying to walk everywhere and called me "gamma" several times. She also started saying 'catch' and holding out a ball for me to take then 'catch' for me to pass it backi. Emily and I were playing catch in the loungeroom and Rylee copied. She copies everything from taking Pa's hat and putting it on her head to slapping her hands on the table and saying "go Max" as that makes him run from front verandah to back verandah and back again. Anyway we loved having them again. Oh and Emily made another "Brian" which I was going to do for my sister to say thank you for caring for our dad for so long. However now I think it will b a gift from Emily to someone else. She can't decide if it is for her nanna or if it is for Uncle Paul (our son in Hervey Bay). Today she gave Uncle Terry (my brother) a present she made and decorated for him. He really did love it and I didn't get a pic of it.

Thanks for kind words of support for the loss of my father yesterday morning. I'm glad it is all over for him so quickly as a lingering death with cancer is not something I would wish on anyone.

just had a long phone call from family re funeral arrangements and now it is too late for any more chatter so I'm off to bed after a busy few days. This week will be hectic with an early morning trip to Hervey Bay and back on Thursday as we have a funeral to attend on Friday also for one of Johnny's closest friends.

Night all
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 19, 2012
2:13 PM

Post #9049078

Hi everyone,

Not a very nice day here today, cloudy and overcast again and looks like the rain is on the way back again.

Jean – Thanks for filling in the bits about where you live and your climatic conditions. It’s very important especially when trying to give advice as I sometimes forget to differentiate between people living in Queensland in the warmth and those in the colder southern states. As I see it now we have you in Victoria, Colleen in South Australia, Sue and I in NSW and everybody else in Queensland so quite a varied spread or climatic conditions.

Karen – It looks like you’re about to be washed away soon if the wet doesn’t stop. But it doesn’t seem to have stopped the old “bluey”. I have a couple in our yard as well and dozens of skinks from a few inches long to three big fat ones about a foot long who live beneath the back steps. It’s good to see these native creatures in the yard and they say it’s a good sign of a healthy environment, which is a reason I choose not to spray toxic chemicals on and around my plants.

Colleen – See I did have you pegged correctly after all; I suspected you were one of the growers who talk and sing to their plants, you had to be doing something to make them look so good. We have a lady in our brom society who grows beautiful Tillies. When asked what her secret was she just said, “Oh I just go out each day and say good morning to them and tell them how nice they look, and I give then a drink of weak tea every Friday”. The weak tea is a brew she makes up from chook poop steeped in water for a couple of weeks and then diluted to look like very weak tea which she sprays all over them; as I said previously about fertilizing “little and often” I’ll attach a pic of one of her Tillies to show you the results.

Wendy – What can I say except to add my condolences on the loss of your Dad? You’re certainly having a bad time lately and it just seems to be one thing after the other. But just think, Dad’s pain free and in a far better place now. As for you and Johnny, well there’s always light at the end of the tunnel things can only get better from here so “chin up” we’re all here thinking of you both.

To help cheer you up a bit I have obtained permission from a good Thai “Brom Friend” of mine called Chanin Thorut to post some of his great pictures of the Noon Nook Tropical Gardens in Thailand. His reply to me asking for permission was ... “With my very pleasure, Neville (:-))" ...So over the next few days expect some "mouth watering" pic’s of brom’s in a massive shade house.

But today I’ll first of all start with a pic of my friend Rena’s beautiful Tillandsia which she has been tending for thirty years and which I spoke of in my answer to Colleen. Pic No. 2. is a very large "heart shape" made from compressed coco-peat. Pic. No.3 shows the coco peat covered with a layer plastic netting through which Cryptanthus plants are painstakingly woven. Pic. No. 4. Shows the workers constructing these particular displays and Pic. No. 5. Shows the finished product. I thought Wendy and Johnny would especially like this as they have done similar things albeit on a slightly smaller scale...enjoy!

All the best, Nev

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 19, 2012
2:52 PM

Post #9049143

Wow Nev, that's a lot of crypts on that heart. Isn't it effective though.

Wendy, glad the kids were there with you. Life goes on, and kids keep us going with it. So sorry to hear Johnny has lost a friend too. It's been such a bad time for you both.

No local flooding here but we've had a good downpour of overnight rain. But they say the worst won't be until about Thursday when we can expect heavy rains.

I got two of my biggest broms repotted yesterday with help from Barry. One was the Blanche. and the other was Vr. Kiwi cream which has gotten huge.

Karen

Pics today are Tillandsia Stricta in flower. Its just a single plant now, so looking forward to it growing into a clump. Will be so pretty.

Till. Tricolor with its long feather like bract and simple flower. A cynea is blooming in the background.

Vr. Kiwi Cream now able to spread better in its bigger pot.

Billy NOID. Looks great among the other bills which are mostly reds and pinks. A nice contrast.

A Neo. NOID that I've had for a long time sits happily in an old chair.






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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

March 20, 2012
4:47 AM

Post #9049795

Evening (Morning) everyone...

Wendy, I'm sorry for your loss and glad that you are dealing with the realistic side of it. Watching a loved one suffer is hard to endure.

Nev, I love the Cryptanthus heart. It appears to be huge. When being assembled it appears the crypts are Cascade but looking at the completed heart the crypts have a more red/pink color. Are they two different ones possibly?
Seeing your friends' beautiful Tillandsia makes me think I need to start issuing sweet nothings to my plants too. lol

Karen ~ I like the Neo NOID seated in your chair. That is charming... pretty plant too.

Expecting floods and high winds today. I have been fighting white flies in the greenhouse this winter. Yesterday I moved a huge tomato plant that was a whitefly attractor outside. When I walked back in, I was startled to see this bloom. It had been hiding behind the tomato.

Although I've had this plant for a few years, this is the first bloom on my Dyckia fragrans. I'd add a photo of the plant but can't turn the photo and don't want Nev to grumble.

Take care all... Kristi

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perke_patch

March 20, 2012
5:41 AM

Post #9049869

Wow Nev I love that heart shape full of crypts. that is truly stunning. Wish I could make something like that but I wouldn't try for that size ... for starters I wouldn't know where to find that many crypts. Maybe a much smaller version one day. Who knows.

Thanks for all the comments and kind thoughts. I need all your prayers to make the rain stop so we can drive back to Hervey Bay for the funeral on Thursday and back home again for Friday. If this rain continues they've already told us the burial will have to be postponed till the cemetary dries out. They can't put a body in a hole full of water. The funeral can still go ahead but ... Anyway we have to get there first and Hervey Bay etc are already waterlogged so water is just sitting and building up now.

Pic 1: I just had to share a pic of our black bat plant. it has 4 flowers this year and we love it.
Pic 2: Emily's latest craft. The one on right was the one we created weeks ago. I was able to keep her under control and ended with a slightly blinged up version. This time I got waylaid by Rylee and Pa stepped in to help. He is as bad a Em and this one turned out to be a girl one with earings and lots of decoration. She hasn't decided if it will be for Nanna or for Uncle Paul in Hervey Bay.

Regards
Wendy

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perke_patch

March 20, 2012
6:27 AM

Post #9049925

Oh I forgot I had a lovely morning coffee and chat with Jen and picked up the plants brought back from Nev and others. I haven't hd a chance to pot themup yet or really study them but I already love some that Jen pointed out to me. As I get them potted up I will take pics to share with you all. Thanks Jen for a lovely break and chat.

splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 20, 2012
1:33 PM

Post #9050388

Hi everyone,

Dawn – Yes that is a lot of Crypts, did you count them?

Wow! that inflorescence on the Till is massive for the size of the plant and your Kiwi Cream is looking good after re-potting. I didn’t have any luck with my Kiwi Cream, it put up this little “maggoty” looking little flower spike and then all the leaves started to die. The remains of the plant now has a reasonable looking pup so maybe that will do something in the future. I have been told that it’s a plant that must have room to grow and good air circulation around it, so maybe mine was a bit cramped and that’s why it didn’t do well.

Kristi – I’m not sure about the Crypt plants and I noticed that myself. Maybe they were immature plants when they were being mounted and the pic’s of the finished product were taken some time later. I can’t ask Chanin because of the language difficulties between us so we’ll just have to dream, although I think that’s a pretty common Crypt in Thailand as it seems to be growing in abundance in every pic I ever see of brom’s in Thailand.

I like your Dyckia flower; I don’t have any Dyckias myself, but from what I’ve seen of the few growing here locally, they all seem to have bright yellow or orange coloured flowers and do certainly add a splash of brightness to a group of plants.

Wendy – I thought you and Johnny would enjoy the “heart” and appreciate the amount of work that went into it as I know you did something similar mounting mini Neo’s on a fibre ball a while back although not quite as large.

Everything I’ve ever read about Cryptanthus has said that they must be treated as terrestrials and never mounted, so maybe it’s just the Thai climate that allows them to get away with mounting them there, but I don’t know if we would have the same success here. Maybe it would be a good project for you and Johnny to trial?

Those Bat Plants are certainly fascinating; do they grow from a bulb? I would love to have a couple but I was told a while back that our winter climate here wouldn’t agree with them and I’d be wasting my time.

I think the little pot figures are great and would certainly make a good saleable gift. Maybe you can employ your grand children and make Johnny the "Foreman of the Assembly Line." I’m glad you got your plants OK and I hope you like them.

I’ll finish with a few more of Chanin’s pic’s; No.1. is Chanin himself helping to set up the Annual Thai Bromeliad Show. 2, 3, 4, and 5, are again of the bromeliad section of the Noong Nooch Tropical Gardens of Thailand. No. 2. Shows how brom's can successfully be used with water to create a nice effect, No.3 Shows a nice combination of Guzmanias, vrieseas and Aechmea Fasciata, No.4. Shows just how effective a massed display of the common Aechmea Fasciata can look surrounding a nice potted variegated palm and No. 5 Shows a "wall" of neoregelias leading to the main entrance; truly "eye catching".


All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 20, 2012
1:47 PM

Post #9050402

Hi everyone. Potted up a few more pups yesterday, but the dilemah is, where do I put them? Nev I have put the Neo thunderbirdX avalon into the palm where the predator was. It looks good at the moment and I'm hoping that it will colour up beautifully now and get bigger. Well, I can't say that I don't fertile anymore as I gave the Mummas a dose when I took the pups and repotted them into new material. Very windy here this morning a a mist of rain out there too.

Wendy my sympathy to you and your family on the passing of your Dad. I hope that the rain stays away for you and that the funeral can take place as normally as possible. Colleen

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 20, 2012
3:35 PM

Post #9050505

Good morning everyone. Another of those wishy washy days, neither this nor that. Still, some showers are expected so have to cater for that.

Kristi, your Dyckia fragrans is really lovely. I haven't seen one in flower before and it really is pretty. Showing my ignorance further, I have never heard of white fly. Sweet nothings is about all my plants get too. They seem to manage OK on that though.

Wendy, looking forward to seeing what you and Jen got from Nev. May be able to do it in person soon, I hope. Will let you settle again after all that's happened first.

Nev, I love the colourful displays you see at shows, but they are hard pressed to beat those Thailand ones. They really know how to work with plants, don't they. I guess one day my Kiwi's will die back and have pups, so will just enjoy them at their different stages. I have the room to give each plant its space though I prefer the plants all together as they look so much better. If I had landscaping with rocks and water they would look OK as single features, but I don't . Suburban blocks don't give you a lot of space to work with, do they.

Colleen, you keep surprising us with your lovely broms. I like the idea of using the palm tree stumps. I have one here that would make a good home for a larger brom, but just need to get Barry to cut it down. Its huge, but its a Cocos palm, and grows like a weed, dropping seeds absolutely everywhere.

Can anyone suggest broms for rather shady places with low light? Barry is clearing another section of the fenceline, and the top half will get good morning sunlight, but the fence itself cuts off the light to the lower half. Add the shade of the trees to it, and it really is a dark corner.

Hope everyone has a lovely day. I'm off the the Hyperdome (which isn't all that exciting) to do what must be done there, and hopefully back in time for a relaxing afternoon.

Karen








splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 21, 2012
12:21 PM

Post #9051557

Good morning everyone,

I’ve been feeling a bit crook the last few days with this rotten cold and continual coughing which has been so persistent my ribs are now all aching, so yesterday I went to the Doctor’s yet again. Would you believe this time he tells me I have pneumonia; so more bloody pills and X-rays etc. etc.

Colleen – It’s good to see someone can keep up with their pup re-potting, I wish I could say the same! Yes your Neo. Thunderbird x Avalon should colour up nicely given good light as both parents are reds; but then you never know as they are seedlings and the odd ones are turning up with spots, which is what makes hybridizing so interesting. I mean if you could accurately predict what each seedling would turn out like where would the interest and anticipation be?

They’re three nice looking plants you show there Colleen, but how about some names so we all know what they are and while you’re at it, tell us what you have on the floor, is it wood chips or mulch of some type? I was once able to get a good waste product for the floors of my shade houses which was a fine hardwood type chip from a mortising machine which they used to mortise fence posts. Unfortunately the owner of the timber yard had a daughter who bought herself a horse, and from then on she used it for the stable floor and I couldn't get any more.

Karen – You mention your large Cocos Palm; did you know that brom’s can successfully be mounted onto these as they have a rough enough surface for the roots to attach to. I once saw one in Southport many years ago and the owner had mounted mini Neo’s all around it and it looked fabulous. Unfortunately I was into growing orchids and not brom’s at that time, and never bothered to take a picture and I’ve been kicking myself ever since. The main thing to remember when mounting plants is that they must be firm and unable to move. If they can move they will not put down roots. The best thing to tie them on with are Pantyhose which I get pretty cheap from the $2 shop and use them for straining paint as well as mounting plants, although I think the girl behind the till thinks I might be wearing them as she always gives me that funny look. Once the plant has been tied on, the pantyhose can be hidden by draping them with a bit of “old man’s whiskers” and you would think it had been there forever.

You ask about brom’s for a shady aspect; personally I don’t think you can go past Nidulariums. Probably the most underrated brom’s of all; I don’t know why because they are easy to grow, don’t cost much, have a good range of colours in the flowers e.g. pinks, reds, purple and even gold and orange and the flowers last for months. You can get them with leaves of varying shades of green right through to burgundy as well as some with variegations.

Another option is some of the burgundy leafed Aechmeas such as Foster’s Favourite, Chianti var, Jean, Mirlo etc. as well as Aechmeas which have the discoloured leaves, i.e. burgundy beneath and green on top; plants such as Miniata Discolour, Purple Heart, Victoriana, Big Stuff etc. So there really is plenty to pick from for your situation.

As a suggestion, you could put the Nidulariums on the ground against the fence with the larger Aechmeas in between them, and hang the smaller Aechmeas along the fence above them. There really are a lot of options when you look at it.

That’s it for another day and I’ll finish with a few more of Chanin’s pic’s of the Noong Nooch Gardens.

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 21, 2012
4:02 PM

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Hello again. Rains are supposed to be moving down from the north to reach Brisbane today. Hopefully, most of the water in them will be gone by the time they get here. Spare a thought for Wendy and John as they head up into it today. Be safe.

Nev, I have a challenging area to work with becoming available as Barry clears out the undergrowth a little at a time. I won't be able to plant broms at ground level, as during the rains, the back fence becomes a river, and everything washes away. So I was thinking of shelving at 3 levels in a V shape in the corner and a pole with plants hanging off it like I've seen at Wendy's. If I start about a foot off the ground it should work so long as debris can't get caught up in it. The dark loving plants would be on the lower shelves and sun lovers on the top shelves. First I need to shop around for suitable, affordable shelving.

I had a weird dream last night. In it, I got up early in the morning, went out to open the back door, and all my coloured broms had moved up the back ramp and were lined up as if waiting to get into the house. Wonder what it means?

Karen
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 22, 2012
12:38 PM

Post #9052962

Hi Karen and anyone else sitting on the sidelines,

Karen – I think all of those plants I suggested would still grow just as well in the spots you describe, I’d just beware of having galvanized shelving over the top of plants though, as any zinc leaching from it could harm the plants below. If the shelving were stepped, that would be fine.

To analyze your dream though would be a job for a professional, although I would interpret it as a warning about a lot of rain. Did the brom’s have rain coats and gum boots on?

Kristi - I was able to contact Chanin in relation to your question about the name of all the Cryptanthus in the big "heart" and he said that it is Cryptanthus 'Ley Rey'. The colour seems much brighter than it is in the plants in the BCR, but that's probably a climatic "thing".

I’ll finish with a few more of Chanin’s pic’s of the bromeliad section of the Noong Nook Tropical Gardens of Thailand.

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 22, 2012
12:58 PM

Post #9052987

Hi everyone. I did come in yesterday and typed a post and went to send it and DG was off line so it wouldn't send. I can't even remember what i wrote now but I know that i said "Nev, you look after yourself" It was cool here yesterday but a bit early to tell what today will bring. Karen I was going to say that I thought that your broms were going to come in out of the weather. Sorry about not putting names to my pics but I just go out and take pics and then when I put them up I haven't got a clue what most of them are. In other words I've been lazy. Will try to rectify that for you Nev. Here's a pic of part of my back garden, no broms though. Colleen

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

March 22, 2012
1:45 PM

Post #9053039

Hello all. I am still popping in to read the chat and enjoy the photos.
Nev, those Thai gardens are so beautiful.
Makes one want to live there, but then half the other plants I love wouldnt like it .
Enjoy your broms everyone.
Mine are growing and still putting on pups, so I will have to move a few more around soon.
Jean.
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 22, 2012
3:16 PM

Post #9053143

Well, the heavy rains they predicted didnt reach us. They went out to sea. All we got was some nice showers. I think though my broms would like some drying out time before the next lot.

Jean, its nice to get pups from them, isn't it. You must enjoy your garden with its many flowers so much. It seems to be getting cool quite fast, so we could be in for a longer and colder winter this year. A challenge to some plants, I imagine.

Colleen, you have a lovely "jungle" there too. I wish I had soil here, instead of clay. I'd love to grow some flowers and bulbs. As things are though, everything just washes out in heavy rain as the yard gets so much run off from all directions, and sometimes its almost torrential.

Nev, I think much of the appeal of those gardens is the height the display goes to. I've never seen Usneoides grow so long.

Hello to anyone else popping in. Hope the weather and life in general is treating you all kindly.

Karen

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 22, 2012
5:31 PM

Post #9053276

Hi everyone,

We are home again ... but having trouble with our internet service, which is intermittent at best. I haven't had a chance to read the posts of the last 10 days or so and have to dash off to do some grocery shopping now. Hopefully, I will be able to get back on to the forum later today and catch up with all the posts and tell you about our week at Moore Park Beach ... maybe even some photos.

Anyway, hope everyone who was crook is better now. Must run

Shirley
perke_patch

March 23, 2012
5:32 AM

Post #9053701

hello all.
Nev look after yourself. Pneumnia is not a nice thing to have with the coughing etc. plenty of rest and stay warm. I love those pics you posted of Chanin's. I love the cascading usneoids. I think I might put some on the bottom of our circular tillandsia hanger so we can get that cascad effect. I also thought about those cryps on the heart and wondered how they would cope without a water supply. maybe a mini neo would handle the shape better. I'll have to see what I can do re a heart shape.
We took Emily's brians up to Hervey Bay and she gave the girl one to Uncle Paul cause they stayed at his place while up there and then gave the boy one to Aunty Pam for looking after grandad while he lived with her. The pot on top of both had a till tricolour in it and the one in the boy brian was nice enough to even throw up a flower spike so my sister was very pleased with it. It is now living on her verandah looking out to sea and Fraser Island. Hope it copes with the see breezes.

We had a last funeral today and the wake at the sporting club. It was a pretty good day but all I could think about was my box of new vriseas from Richard Harper. We gladly came home after lunch had a relaxing cuppa on the verandah (after we got changed of course) and then went downstairs and spent all afternoon potting up vriseas. There are some really nice ones which show good potential so Johnny is very pleased. Now we just have to find room to put them somewhere. I got Richard to send an extra box to our son Paul in Hervey Bay so he is looking forward to receiving his 5 vrisea seedlings too. Unfortunately they didn't arrive today so will be sitting somewhere all weekend locked up in a box. Itold Paul to give them a bit of sugar and water when he unpacks them on Monday (hopefully they will come then).

Pic is my new babies from Richard Harper. Just what we needed to come home to yesterday. a bit of sunshine on a rainy sad day.

Wendy

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 23, 2012
6:15 AM

Post #9053746

oops ... I forgot to resize the photos ... another post out there in cyberspace somewhere !!! Guess I'll start over ...


Hello again, finally caught up with my reading …

Thanks Nev for organising the fine weather while we were away ... you did pretty well with your order. Apart from a showery Sunday, the rain held off until Wednesday arvo/evening, when it dropped more than 6 inches overnight and we made a hasty departure.

Also, I would really appreciate any info you have on grass pups if you wouldn't mind sending it to me, thanks.

I love the photos of the Nong Nooch Tropical Gardens. We actually visited the gardens in July 2010 and they are truly spectacular. I will try to find some of the photos we took.

Also, you must look after yourself and follow your Drs advice … that’s a pretty serious infection you have.

Hi also to Karen, Kristi, Jean and Jen and anyone else out there. Has anyone heard from Tash … I hope she has fully recovered by now.

Wendy, you posted while I was retyping and resizing. Very sorry to hear about your dad, you really are having a bad trot. Pleased to hear that everything worked out well in Hervey Bay and you are now back in Brisbane safe and sound, though you are probably totally exhausted. Like Nev, I like to think our loved ones go to a better place when they pass.

Anyway, our trip to Moore Park Beach went well. It is a lovely little place, very quiet, a great place if you are looking to vege out for a few days. As I said earlier, we were very lucky weatherwise. Hervey Bay copped torrential rain while we were there but it missed us altogether. It was raining in Brisbane when we left on Wednesday but cleared a little bit later and we had lovely fine and very hot days Thursday, Friday & Saturday. Saturday night we had rain and on Sunday we had showers which was disappointing as I was looking forward to the market … thought I might get some broms, but very few stall holders turned up to what is normally a very popular market.

On Monday we took a day trip up to Agnes Waters and Town of 1770. We were a little worried it might rain but it turned out to be another lovely day, as was Tuesday. Wednesday afternoon it started to rain and overnight Moore Park received more than 6”. We left Thursday morning to come home and were lucky to get through as the road between Moore Park and Bundaberg was underwater in several places.

Apparently Brisbane had a lot of rain while we were away so we were very lucky to get so much fine weather … thanks again Nev for putting in a good word. And that reminds me of Wendy's gum ... try wrapping it in foil after opening, that should stop any sweating.

Anyway, I’ll close with some photos …1st one is ‘the beachfront at Moore Park’, in front of the caravan park, the 2nd is ‘the kids playing on the beach’ … the big one is ours, the 3rd is ‘the Town of 1770 – Capt Cooks landing place’, the 4th and 5th are photos we took of Nong Nooch Gardens in 2010 … ‘one of the cacti gardens’ and one of an elephant made from small terracotta pots wired together. They have many of these sculptures, all of them brilliant.

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 23, 2012
12:49 PM

Post #9054169

Good morning everyone,

Colleen – That’s a very interesting looking corner of the yard in your pic, but it probably needs continuous work to keep it up to speed so why not rip it all out and make a nice big shade house and just fill it up with brom’s? I like the nice apricot/peach colour of your Brugmansia, I’d really like to have a Neo that colour; wouldn’t it look great?

Jean – I think Thailand would be a bit like Bali, OK for a holiday, but not really a good place to live after living here in the best country in the world (I know I’m “one eyed”) but I have been overseas four times now so I know what I’m talking about; I’ve been to Bali, Tasmania, Kangaroo Island, and Stradbroke Island... Ha! Ha!

They do have beautiful gardens though and not just brom’s. Apparently the King of Thailand loves flowers and the people love him; so everyone goes out of their way to make the place look beautiful. The pic’s I’ve been showing are just of the bromeliad section which although it is in massive shade house; it is just one tiny part of the whole gardens. To see the gardens in their entirety you need to look at the 12 or so pages of pic’s at: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=nong nooch tropical gardens&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=myRsT6HbBamyiQfOnvHYBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CF8QsAQ&biw=1272&bih=843 They are well worth a visit and real “eye openers”.

You say your brom’s are growing and putting up pups; I hear the same story from everyone I speak to. I personally have never seen such a year for pups in my own collection and I put it down to the “magic stuff” in all the rain we’ve been having; it’s a pity we can’t bottle it.

Karen – I agree with you about the height of the shade house in the pic's I've been posting, I know the experts always tell us to make our shade house roofs as high as possible for the best results, but the Thai people really take them literally and I believe this one is thirty five feet high in one place and fifty feet in another, and that’s a high shade house!

Just because you have clay soil is no reason for not having a nice garden; I remember years ago when my brother first got married and built a house at Seven Hills in NSW, the soil was like concrete. It was just hard packed clay which after about three drought years had become virtually impossible to dig, in fact the builder's labourers were breaking pick handles digging the footings (the good old days when things were done by hand). But after twelve months of painstaking work, a little at a time and many many ute loads of wood shavings and fowl manure dug into it (there were a lot of poultry farms in that area then and they gladly gave you the chook poop free just to get rid of it). He just kept digging and turning it over and added some lime and gypsum as well until he finally finished up with a good fertile vegetable garden in the back yard and a wonderful show of exhibition Dahlias second to none in the front yard.

Another option which doesn’t require as much work is to build the beds on top of the hard stuff with a timber surround (such as old railway sleepers or bits of trees) to contain the soil (which you would have to bring in from a garden centre) but it isn’t as expensive as it sounds because when you buy garden soil in bulk it’s really quite reasonably priced and you can do a little bit at a time.

Shirley – Glad to see you back again and I hope you had a good time. I’m pleased my order for fine weather was partly filled at least.

The first of your pic's looks identical to what we know as South Beach here in Shellharbour and as for your “kids” playing; ... Well I can remember the same thing on South Beach before we were married when our two dogs used to do the same thing. We had a black and white dog called “Whiskey” that would try and eat the white foam on the water and another little brown dog called “Bonnie” who would just stand in the water up to the top of her shoulders until the last of a wave would come in and then she would face the shore and swim like buggery and “body surf” in and onto the sand.

Although not really my “thing” I think the Cacti look great, but in my opinion the star of the show is the amazing elephant made from terracotta flower pots, very imaginative and most unusual!

Wendy – Good to see you and Johnny back safe and sound, now you can put your feet up for bit and relax before you get stuck into your plants again, and I’m pleased that Emily’s “Brians” have both found good homes.

Yes I had also wondered about the Crypts (by the way Crypt. 'Lee Rey' was the name) and watering, and thought maybe an automatic irrigation system; but I’ve since been told that everything is hand watered as required, which isn’t very often due to the high humidity.

That’s a nice collection of Vrieseas to come home to isn’t it? Richard’s breeding some nice stuff and I remember way back when he first started posting pic’s on the forum of his little seedlings and I told him he would need to extend his shade house in the future. From what I’ve heard about his set up I’m now sure he definitely would have needed to. I wouldn’t worry too much about Paul’s Vrieseas being in the mail over the weekend as I’ve found that they travel the best of all brom’s, even though they look like they wouldn’t, and a soak in the "magic sugar mix" will certainly "pep" them up.

That’s it for another day and I’ll finish with a few more of Chanin’s pic’s of the Noong Nooch Gardens.

All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 23, 2012
3:40 PM

Post #9054359

Good morning on this nice sunny cloudy morning. The weekend is underway, yey! What adventures will we get up to this weekend?

Wendy, you and Johnny really need a nice relaxing weekend, but it sounds like you'll be potting and rearranging plants again.

Shirley, that elephant sculpture is amazing. Some people are just so creative! So glad you had a good break away. That beach looks lovely.

Nev, hope you are taking your medicine and nursing that infection. Pneumonia can be tricky and mustn't be messed with. The pics are wonderful and one day I would hope my brom garden looks something like a display. I've run out of money to do the next bit, but hopefully I'll be able to move on soon.

My computer is being stubborn this morning and not downloading pics, so I'll wish you all a great day and bow out gracefully.

Karen


ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 23, 2012
5:01 PM

Post #9054460

Hi everyone. Nev the floor in the SH has weed matting and pine chips on it. I went out yesterday and took a few more pics. One especially is Neo "Debbie" with 2 nice pups. I haven't seen this one anywhere else so was wondering if the name is true. I've had it for a couple of years, one of the starters in my collection. Nev I can't put the new SH over in that corner of the garden as that's where the memory garden for my son is. It has lots of different plants in there and only yesterday I planted sweet peas, canterbury bells and black and white fluffy poppies. I still have some more seeds to spread through there as yet. By Spring time the garden is usually full of flowers. I think it looks lovely, but it might not be everyone's cup-of-tea. Pics below are. Neo debbie, Neo Raphael, Neo Luxurians and Ae. Burgundy. Hope all are well. Colleen

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 24, 2012
5:17 AM

Post #9054876

Hello again,

just a very quick post tonight. Love the brom photos, all of them. Thought I might attach some more photos of the terracotta pot "sculptures" in the Nong Nooch Gardens as we thought they were really amazing ...

Wendy, those are lovely vrieseas ... neos are still my favourite but vrieseas are running a very close second.

We have lots of work to catch up on after being away, I wonder sometimes if it's worth it. The lawn grubs went beserk while we were away and there are large areas of brown in the lawns. I also had a few plants chewed to bits by caterpillars (not broms) and the weeds have grown very quickly. I had hoped to get stuck into the shadehouse makeover now that it has cooled down a bit but unfortunately there are higher priorities. Anyway ... we'll get there eventually.

Shirley





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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 24, 2012
2:13 PM

Post #9055462

Hi everyone,

Karen – Yes I am taking my medication, in fact I’m taking so many bloody pills I’m rattling! I seemed to come good for a couple of days but last night I was pretty breathless again and had to spend the night in my lounge chair as every time my head hit the pillow I started coughing, but I imagine these things take time and I’m pretty impatient as I have so much I have to do.

I’m sure one day your brom garden will look like a display; however, unfortunately you are suffering from the same problem as a lot of us also have, called LOAF (Lack Of Available Funds)

Colleen – I’m so sorry I suggested ripping out your garden in the corner for a shade house as I had no idea it was a memory garden for your son, and I’m sure your new plantings will look just great when they all flower and I’d love to see another picture of them then.

I like your four pic’s, however I have doubts about “Debbie” being correctly named. It doesn’t look like mine and the colour doesn’t seem right nor do the leaves, which should be overlapping each other. However, having said all of that, it could still be the result of not having enough light. Where was it growing? If you look at the site below it has a good pic of Neo ‘Debbie’ and what it should look like:
http://bromeliad.org.au/pictures/Neoregelia/Debbie.htm

I spent part of yesterday sorting out your plants and I will get them in the post for you on Monday as well as the Tree Fern and Bird's Nest Fern. I also have to send Jean a Tree Fern and some "bits and pieces" as well; although I suspect she thinks I’ve forgotten, but I just get things done much slower these days. There are a few other parcels for other “brom mates” also, and hopefully I’ll get them all posted off on Monday too.

Shirley – I know what you say about other priorities holding up your shade house construction, I seem to have the same problem and am still trying to finish a “make over” I started some months back, however I tend to now follow the old saying of “slow and steady wins the race”.

Those terracotta sculptures are truly amazing aren’t they? It’s a pity we don’t all still use terra cotta pots, otherwise that would be a good way of storing them and crating a feature at the same time

I’ll finish with a few more of Chanin’s pic’s of the Noong Nook bromeliads.

All the best, Nev.

P.S. Sorry if the pic's seem a bit small, but this is the second time I've tried to post these; when I posted them previously, DG "ate them"!!! I expect they weren't small enough so I've reduced them even more.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 24, 2012
2:40 PM

Post #9055495

Hi everyone. Nev, my "Debbie" has been grown in a shady part of the SH so had better introduce the pups to some sun and see what we come up with. All the beautiful VR. that I got a while back have lost some of their colour as well because I thought that they might not like to be put straight into our harsh Summer Light. I will gradually bring them into full light. I wonder if we could find a half a dozen little helpers for a few days. That would make things easier on us wouldn't it? A couple of housekeepers would suit me and then I could spend all day out there. I potted up a few more pups yesterday. I think I need a Mumma part of the SH now. Might see what I can do about that today before they get all mixed up again. Well the boys want their brekkie so had better move. Colleen

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 25, 2012
5:49 AM

Post #9056063

Hi everyone

Well, that’s another weekend over. We didn’t get a lot of rain but we didn’t see much of the sun either and it’s getting quite cool now in the evenings.

Thanks Nev for the links to the forum discussions on grass pups. I haven’t had a chance to read them all as yet but I most certainly will. I have quite a few grass pups growing on my very young glaziouana.and geniculata alcantareas but I have never tried to remove them. I remember being told to leave them on the parent plant ‘until they are as thick as your finger’ and I haven’t had any reach that stage as yet. Can you please tell me at what size you remove any grass pups on your plants and what mix you plant them in ?

Wendy, I love your bat plant. I have seen them for sale many times and have been tempted but have been told they are quite difficult to grow. Do they die back altogether in winter ?

Colleen, love the photo. You must be kept very busy. I totally agree that a few little helpers would make it easier and like you, I’ll let them take care of the housework while I spend the day pottering about in the garden. Mind you, a few strong and willing helpers wouldn’t go astray in the yard either … I could put them to work on the shadehouse.

That’s about it from me for tonight, hope everyone has had a good weekend.

I will attach a couple of photos of my broms which do have names - No 1 is Silverado, No 2 is Camelot

Shirley



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 25, 2012
4:19 PM

Post #9056704

Hi everyone, what a nice fine and sunny morning it is here today; it’s so fine I can even hear the brom’s growing!

Colleen – The fact that your Neo. ‘Debbie’ looks different to the ones in the pic’s is obviously due to the low light then. I had forgotten all about your renovations and the fact that you had to move things around, and you certainly did the right thing to get them out of the hot sun. As the sun has now lost most of its heat, it’s a good time now to start re-introducing them gradually to more light and it will be no time at all when you will be looking at all the great colours again.

Yes a couple of little helpers would certainly not go astray, I thought maybe you could train your monkeys to lend a hand instead of just sitting there looking like they’re thinking about some mischief to get into.

As for the “mother plants”, I just put mine in a spot over beside the fence out of the direct sun. They still produce pups OK and don’t take up valuable bench space.

I think your picture is priceless; every boy should always have a dog, it gives them some responsibility of caring for something, and it’s a mate that’s always there to comfort them and play with them. I can’t ever remember not having at least one dog right back as far as I can remember, and to this day I would never be without one. In fact an English bloke said to me in a horrified voice a while back, “Oh you let your dog in the house”. My answer to him was, “I’d sooner have my dog in the house than a lot of people I know” and what’s more if they’re looked after properly, they’re often a bloody sight cleaner than a lot of people are too.

Shirley – Regarding grass pups, I usually remove them when they are about as thick as a pencil, but then I’m no expert. Some of the better known growers of Alcantareas especially those in the tropics remove them when they are just the size of a match. I think if I did that here they would die as it gets pretty cold here in the winter, but up in the tropics the don't have that problem. Up there, they can plant a nail and grow a “crowbar”.

As for a potting mix, the last lot I took off were planted in 50% Brunnings Cymbidium Orchid mix and 50% Coco-Peat mulch and they are really growing well. I’m told also that they can take more fertilizer than other brom’s, but then that’s an individual thing you have to trial yourself.

I like your pic’s; and I especially like a mature Neo ‘Silverado’ when it gets that silvery cast over the leaves, I think it’s most attractive and unusual. I have another Neo incorrectly called ‘Shadow’ (and it’s nothing like the pic on the BCR so probably a NOID just given a “pet name”. However it seems to have that same silvery cast over the tops of the leaves when mature and is most attractive. (A pup is on its way to you Colleen). Neoregelia ‘Camelot’ is always a popular plant and a good grower and producer of pups as well.

I’ll finish with a few more of Chanin’s pic’s but this time they are of a Thai Bromeliad Show, and I bet the Neo’s will make your mouth water. Unfortunately I don’t have the names, but it can at least show you the quality of the Neo’s they are breeding in Thailand

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 25, 2012
10:58 PM

Post #9057052

Hi everyone. Lovely day here today. Nice pics again Nev. Shirley lovely pic of Camelot. I have that one but don't have Silverado. Haven't done much in the garden today as I had to wash, go down the street, and move some succulents up to the back of the back yard onto a bench and pinch their tiered bench for my broms. Now I have to make room in the SH to put the bench. lol I wish I could just wave a magic wand sometimes and everything would be done, but no, I would have as much fun would I? I hope that you're okay Karen, or is it the computer that's not well. Wendy probably is taking it easy now after all the happenings of the past week or so. Tash has got lost over on FB and so has Sue. Anyway I must go now as we've just come back after having Branden's asthma check. They have just upped his dose of Seratide for 3 weeks and then they'll do more tests. See you all tomorrow. Colleen
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 25, 2012
11:50 PM

Post #9057070

Hi everyone, sorry I've been quiet. Just off doing other things. I am well Colleen, thank you. Hope everyone else is too, including you Nev. Hope those meds are doing their job.

Colleen, that pic is one to treasure. I treasure all my family pics, but sometimes you get one that you want to share with the world, and that is one well worthy of sharing. Hope they get Branden's meds sorted, especially with winter coming.

Shirley, those are lovely broms you have there. I've always been drawn to the silvery neos but they always seem to be large growers, which I don't really have space for.

Nev, aren't we seeing some bromeliad triumphs from overseas hybridizers. There are some really to die for on FB lately.

We went down to walk by the bay today, in need of fresh sea air. I found a bromeliad plant that had been tossed out and of course, being me, I had to bring it home. It is soaking the salt out at the moment, and I'll see if it perks up before I am sure I'll keep it. Its just a smallish plant, plain green, with purple at the base of each leaf. Nothing spectacular. If it survives, it has a home here, if not, I've lost nothing in trying.

All the best to everyone.
Karen


perke_patch

March 26, 2012
6:32 AM

Post #9057298

Hi everyone. Nev I love all those pics from Chanin. I especially love all those big round raised pots on the posts. Don't they make a wonderful show when full of the same plant?

We had a bit of a break but have been back into it since Friday afternoon. We certainly had fun potting up those vriseas and drooling over them. But that just made one big problem ... where to put them???? the vrisea area has now been extended to cover down one side of the centre shelf space. All the neos and other plants had to be moved out so we started setting up our tables for a sale next weekend. We decided to sell off most of the full grown neos removed from the shelf for the vriseas. The neos are now cleaned up, priced and sitting on the sales tables while the vriseas look great in their new home. We are also starting to get lots of vrisea pups potted up too. Lots to sell soon.

Well the first people to arrive at our sale next weekend will certainly be able to take home some really great bargains. Some pots on the tables have up to 4 good sized plants in them. Johnny has most of them priced at only $8 but I snuck $10 on some of them that I thought were just too good to be $8. Anyway first come will be able to take away some really nice plants for a very good price. Shirley are you still coming on Friday to check out what we have??? hope you have lots of room in your car cause you will be unable to resist some of the bargains. Hope to see you. Jen is bringing some of hers over tomorrow to set out on the tables also. Unfortunately M&M have advertised a sale same weekend so I will have to miss theirs again. Ah well, people will be able to kill 2 birds with one stone and visit both places. Hope they visit ours first as they will get more for their buck as they say.

Shirley you have made me want to visit Thailand now just to see the gardens, broms and statues. I love the shape of the broms grown in Thailand. They seem to get much nicer form over there.

Colleen I love the 2 neos you posted. We have both of those. I was going to post a pic of a huge silverado that my son has in the ground in Hervey Bay. I didn't realise it was the same as our silverados till it was identified by the experts on FB. He obviously got a pup from us and didn't bother keeping the name tag with the plant. It was so huge I didn't even think of silverado. We now have one in the large hanging basket on the ground and it has grown much bigger than others we have grown in smaller pots. So plant it with lots of room for root growth and you will get a bigger plant. We now plant pups into the pot size the full grown plant with need. Even though we have good intentions to pot up as the pant grows we never seem to get around to it so we pot up at step one.

Late again so I must be off to bed again. Always seem to be doing that when talking to you guys. must get on DG earlier in the evening.

Night all ... oh pics are of one of our favourite neos. fury. In good light and even sunshine you get some stunning colours in this plant.

Wendy

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shellharbour
Australia

March 26, 2012
2:24 PM

Post #9058036

Hi everyone, looks like another nice fine, sunny morning so I think I’ll just poke around the plantation for a while and see what’s new since my last visit.

Colleen – When you have brom’s it always seems to be a case of finding room for something doesn’t it? I’ll walk around my place and see a Neo or two with nice big pups that need taking off; the trouble is, when you do this and have them all nicely potted up you’re then faced with the dilemma of where you can put them.

Karen – Those Neo’s you see the pic’ of from Thailand are certainly beautiful with their multiple layers of leaves and the same can be said of Neo’s from Hawaii as well. I'm told it has to do with the climatic conditions and they just keep on adding leaves and more leaves and so it goes. The down side to this is, that it takes them longer to flower and to produce pups, so you see for every plus there is a minus. I often wonder how much better a lot of our seedlings would look if they were grown in those countries and under similar conditions.

It will be interesting to see just what the little Neo you found turns out like. I remember back when I was just starting out with brom’s a lady a couple of doors away was cleaning up her garden in preparation to sell her house and in a wheel barrow I spotted a couple of green leaved Neo’s. She said they were being tossed as they “did nothing” and “were only ever green”. I asked if I could have them to which she agreed and after a couple of years in a well lit position, they produced a few pups which turned out to be quite attractive, compact, and well shaped plants with nice dark purple centres, so I guess there’s a lot of truth in the saying of “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”. Obviously she had them stuck away in a dark corner of the garden and it only took a bit of good light to bring out the best in them.

Wendy – It’s interesting to hear what you say about your son’s Neo Silverado planted in the ground. I have also found that Neo’s planted in the garden will be almost double the size of the same plants grown in pots. I think this is largely due to the fact that when in the ground they have the choice of sending their roots anywhere until they find just what they like. On the other hand, plants in a pot just have to be content with what we provide for them which isn’t always to their liking.

I have gone the opposite way to you when potting up pups and I now pot them in a smaller size pot than I did previously as I have found down here in my area, they put down roots about six months quicker than they did previously in the larger size pots, so I guess it’s all about growing conditions and what suits one grower doesn’t necessarily suit another.

I like your pic’s of ‘Fury’ and it really highlights the important part that light plays with the leaf colour of Neo’s and is a great example when trying to make this point to new growers.

I’ll finish with a few more of Chanin’s pic’s (unfortunately no names available) and I'll start of with a very large Aechmea which Chanin is positioning on the show table, the other four plants are of Tillandsias in the same show; I mean, I have to give the “Tilly” growers among you something to drool over as well, don’t I?

All the best, Nev.

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 26, 2012
6:13 PM

Post #9058338

Hi all, just a quickie this morning … lots to do today.

We started out with a nice sunny morning but already the clouds have come over to spoil it and a few spots of rain as well.

Yes Wendy, we are still coming on Friday and sounds like we had better be early to get the best of the bargains. See you then … looking forward to it.

Pic is Manoa's Beauty

Shirley

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 26, 2012
9:33 PM

Post #9058568

Lucky you Shirley, wish I could come too. Hi everyone hope you're all well. Plenty of work still to do and the boys will be home soon. It never ends does it? Got the tiered bench cleared and off the verandah and nearly into the SH but not quite. Where am I going to make room for it? Hang it from the roof I think. only joking. It's been a beautiful day here today. Hope it stays like this for the weekend. We're going to a BBQ on Sunday if the weather's fine. Should be lots of kids for the boys to play with. Must go 3pm and time to get the boys. Have a great day. Colleen
perke_patch

March 27, 2012
3:49 AM

Post #9058735

Hi. we had a lovely sunny day here this morning although a bit cool at first. But around lunch time the wind picked up. we were worried about the split tree next door which was swaying so much in the wind we thought it was going to split completely and fall on the shadecloth above Johnny's vriseas. We didn't want that so we bit the bullet and took the chainsaw over to cut it down before the wind could do it. What a job. I had to be on the end of the rope as Johnny cut the fist branch. I felt the weight let go so I thought the branch was coming towards me until a sudden gust of wind had it pulling back the other way. I really thought I was going to lose it the other way but just then the wind died again and back it came towards me. I just had to jump back out of the way for it to land in front of me. My hands will never be the same again. Rope burns are not nice. Anyhow after 2 loads to the dump we now have lovely sunshine in the vrisea area. However the clouds came over this afternoon so we weren't able to really judge the level of sun now. Will see tomorrow.

Nev tomorrow I will take a pic of a couple of hula girls up the back. One lot was planted up into 8inch pots while another lot are in 6inch pots. I will put them together in a pic to show the different sizes achieved.

I have been waiting for a tillandsia I have coming into flower. It is labelled as till. whiskey but I can't find any till or silver vrisea with a name of whiskey. I wanted to post the pic of the flower but today I discovered that something has bitten the top completely off the infloresence. wonder how long it will take to raise a new one to infloresence stage so I can get an ID. If anyone has heard of a till called whiskey please let me know. It looks very much like a fasiculata but a large one with thin leaves not the fatter ons.

Must see if FB is working yet. it has been freezing on me all night.
Pic is aechmea shining light. we have one of these in flower on the sales table for this weekend.

Wendy

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shellharbour
Australia

March 27, 2012
3:20 PM

Post #9059545

Hi everyone, a bit of a change in the weather this morning and the rain is back with us once again. It looks like I’ll have to spend the day on the computer doing a job I’ve been putting off “forever”, and that is, getting an up to date list of my brom’s together.

Shirley – I’ll bet you’re looking forward to visiting Wendy and Johnny on Friday. There’s nothing as good as visiting other “brom people” and discussing plants with each other. It’s even better when there are plants to buy as well so best you break open the “Piggy Bank” before you go.

That’s a great example of a well grown Neo ‘Manoa Beauty’ you have posted. It’s a beautiful plant and extremely well grown. Whatever you’re doing to your plants, keep doing it as that’s a great example of this particular plant.

Colleen – Yes, I guess like me you will just have to "wish" that you could go to Wendy and Johnny’s with Shirley.

I’m sure you have enough imagination to find a place to put your tiered stand, and while you’re doing it your mind will be thinking of how you can create more space for the next lot of plants.

I hope the weather turns out OK for you for the Sunday BBQ and I’m sure the boys will have a great time and won’t want to leave. You may even be able to convert a few of your friends to brom growing, who knows?

Wendy – If you’re going to go into the tree felling business, you must follow rule No.1 and that is never use a chain saw or any other means to cut down a tree in the wind, it can be extremely dangerous and in some cases even fatal! But then I expect it would be no different if my brom’s were threatened by the possibility of a falling branch either. I hope you haven’t upset your neighbour too much by cutting down his tree, but then it’s possible he didn’t know how dangerous it was unless he looked at it from your side of the fence.

I had a neighbour who has now move but still owns the house next door. He and his wife are lovely people but have absolutely no garden sense whatsoever and they have every noxious weed in Australia growing in their yard. Now that they have moved away these things are taking over and now they’re coming into my yard as well so I expect I’ll have to have a word to him when I see them next.

I’ll look forward to seeing the pictures of your Vr. Hula Girl plants, but please don’t get me wrong about what I said yesterday, I wasn’t questioning what you said regarding the pot sizes, I was just making the point that pups grow roots quicker down here if they are grown in a smaller pot. Different climatic conditions require different cultures and what works for you doesn’t necessarily work for me.

Re. You Till. ‘Whiskey’, sorry I can’t help as I’ve never heard of it and I suspect that's because the name isn’t registered, it may just be a grower’s ‘pet name’. I’ve had a similar thing happen to me three years in a row with a Till someone gave me. This particular plant seems to attract "Katydids" and although the plants on either side can be in flower at the same time, they never seem to get eaten. I never knew what the culprit was until Jack Koning told me what he thought it was and I should go out and have a look at about 9.00 o’clock at night, and sure enough there they were, all three of them having a little “chewing party”. For anyone here who hasn’t seen one of these little “rodents”, I’m posting a pic so you know what to look for. Size wise they are about 2 inches long and have a flatter body than a grass hopper.

Your Aechmea ‘Shining Light’ really looks nice, I have a couple but unfortunately they don’t look anywhere near as nice as yours do as mine suffer terribly when the cold weather hits us and they finish up with spotting from the cold all over their leaves.

I’ll finish now with a pic of a "Katydid" as promised, it is on a finger to give an idea of the size. After this are the final few of Chanin’s pic’s from Thailand; and this time they are of some Aechmeas in the same Bromeliad Show as I posted yesterday.


All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 27, 2012
3:38 PM

Post #9059563

Oooooh, Nev, that brom in the last pic that the men are gazing on, it is gorgeous.

It must be "War on Critters" week. Last night, about 2am, I was disturbed by a noise I couldn't pinpoint, so I went out, and for a moment, thought my bird had come out to play in the middle of the night. I saw a shadow move, and went to get her, only to find there were, not one, but three mice in the cage. I leave the door open overnight, so that is how they got in. I quickly shut the door and moved the cage outside, opened the door, and after some convincing they eventually all got out and ran off into the night. This morning I had the cage down the back, scrubbing it insanely.

My broms are looking really happy at the moment due to the great weather - not hot, not cold. We even had some overnight rain, so they don't need watering. I don't need to do anything but stand back and admire at the moment.

Wendy, my tillandsias aren't doing much flowering, but there are quite a few pups forming, which is great news. I don't think we'll get down this weekend. Barry is coming down with something which means he's already passed it on to me though I show no signs of it yet. We aren't married, so "for worse" should not apply!

Take care everyone.
Karen

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 28, 2012
3:40 AM

Post #9060030

Hi all,

Once again, we started out the day here with a lovely sunny morning that turned cloudy and then it absolutely poured rain around 11:00 o’clock, fortunately it didn’t last long.

We have been without electricity most of the day as Energex is replacing power poles in the area. Even though we were advised well in advance of the outage, it is very inconvenient … especially since we don’t have a town water supply and without power, we have no pumps and with pumps, we have no water. It was after 5:00 pm before the power supply was restored.

Wendy, we have had a few trees cut down over the years, always by professional tree cutters. We recently decided we could remove a smallish one in the back yard ourselves. I was on the rope while Michael used the chain saw. It fell just where we planned but a slight wind turned the rotary clothes hoist around so that one of the arms was in the way of the tree as it fell and did considerable damage to my Hills Hoist … very tricky business this tree felling. Anyway I am really pleased you didn't get badly hurt and I hope your rope burns heal quickly.

Yes Nev, I am really looking forward to visiting Wendy and Johnny on Friday. I figure by turning up a day early I won’t have to fight off as many other buyers to get the best bargains … we women love a sale, you know. LOL I have been saving my pennies in anticipation of the sale and I am also looking forward to meeting another forum member. And besides, I really NEED to buy more broms as I am fast running out of photos to attach to my posts so I just have to buy more … that's my story and I’m sticking to it !!

Karen, around here at the moment it’s the critters that seem to be winning the war. I have had so many of my plants munched by caterpillars, especially some lovely euphorbia millii and while we were away they devastated my topiary figs. There are also lots of grasshoppers, lawn grubs, mealy bugs, aphids, all of them making a meal out of the garden. Fortunately, I have not had anything attacking my broms, so that’s good … and another reason to buy more.

Anyway, that’s about it from me. Since I am short of new broms to photograph, I am going to attach photos of some of my favourite areas of the garden. You won’t see any broms as we did most the the gardens many years ago (well before my brom fever took hold) and we planted mostly tropicals … palms, cycads and lots of crotons. I still have all my broms in pots where I can keep a close eye on them and admire them constantly.

Bye, Shirley

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shellharbour
Australia

March 28, 2012
12:21 PM

Post #9060594

Hi everyone - Well after all my good intentions and the work I was going to do on the computer yesterday, it all turned out to be a bit of a “fizzer” and nothing got done. I’ve had this bit of pneumonia for a week or two now and yesterday I got these uncontrollable bouts of coughing. I have never coughed so much in my life and my ribs are still aching.

About lunch time I remembered a cough suppressant we used when I worked in the ambulance in the steelworks in the early seventies. It was simply called “Mist. Tussi” and was marvellous stuff; it would stop you coughing almost immediately but you could only have two doses in twenty four hours as it was supposed to be addictive. (We were never told why) Suddenly we stopped getting it and an alternative was provided in its place which was never as good. We were never really told why it was stopped and the blokes all reckoned it was because the steelworks had found a cheaper alternative.

Anyway my wife was going shopping yesterday and I asked her to ask our chemist who we know quite well, if he had any “Mist Tussi”. Apparently the story was that it was taken off the market some years ago as the junkies were abusing it because it contained a tiny amount of morphine. However he had a substitute called “Senega and Ammonia” which was almost as good. My wife got a bottle and I must say I haven’t coughed since I took the second dose. So if any of you have a coughing problem, give it a try, it does the job, but be warned it does taste like s...t) Sorry to get away from brom’s, but I thought as a few of us have been getting crook lately this info was worth passing on.

Karen – Those two men in the pic you are referring to are the judges, and I must say they don’t look too happy, I think they are having a hard time picking a winner.

You speaking about mice, reminded me of an incident that occurred when I grew orchids; at one time a lot of the professionals used “rice hulls” in the orchid mix as it was a free waste product and was good for drainage. The only problem was it attracted mice and worse still, sometimes rats. They would dig down into the pots looking for any grain that was still on the hulls and make a terrible mess. I don’t need to tell you that we quickly stopped using rice hulls in the mix. It was only recently that one of our members had come to a meeting about this great idea he was told about to improve drainage, you guessed it, “rice hulls”. Fortunately I was able to relate my experience with this product which quickly stopped anyone from trying it.

I hope Barry gets over his bug quickly, and why don’t you get a bottle of Senega & Ammonia just in case he gets the coughs.

Shirley – Yes I think it’s got to the stage where we all take electricity for granted, and it isn’t until something like this happens that reality hits, and we realise just how lucky were are to have such a reliable service compared to other countries. The other night we had a “black out” here for a couple of hours (a car crashed into a power pole) which sent us ferreting through drawers and cupboards looking for a torch, and it was while we were sitting in the dark we realised just how lucky we really are as I can’t remember the last time we had a blackout. Seems to me your only answer is a "back-up" diesel motor for your pump for times like this, but does the amount of blackouts you get really warrant the expense?.

Yes Shirley, buy all the brom’s you want; remember the saying of all brom growers, “there’s always room for one more”.

Wow! how big is your block Shirley? Plenty of room for more brom's in amongst the other plants. It looks fantastic, so neat and tidy, give yourself a big pat on the back, it’s beautiful. The crotons certainly make a great feature and they are a plant I’ve had a love affair with ever since I first saw them at Surfers Paradise in the early sixties when we were on our honey moon. I’d never seen them before and thought, “I’ve got to get some of those” but I could never find them anywhere. It wasn’t until many years later they started to appear in K Mart and Big W and those types of places. However I still had no luck with them as I found out they were all being brought down from the tropical areas and as soon as our winters struck they would die. I don’t know if they have bred any that are now more suitable to our climate as I have been too involved with my brom’s and they keep me busy enough, and besides I have nowhere to put them now anyway.

I’ll finish now with a few random pic’s that were taken on a brom society visit to member's gardens.

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 28, 2012
12:59 PM

Post #9060668

Hi everyone. Nev you are a funny bugger. You always manage to make me laugh even if it's only 6am. My Mum used to take that cough mixture because it's got no sugar in it. She was a bad diabetic. It did take like sh---. but what do they say, "it's medicine it's not supposed to taste good" Nothing much to report going on here. Still haven't worked out where the tiered bench is going. What with things going on at the school and housework and shopping and animals to look after I find myself a bit stretched at times. Had a visit yesterday from another bromaholic. He brought me around a couple of orchids. I don't know whether I need any as I don't know how to look after them. We have an un-used trampoline frame here and I was talking to my son last night he said why don't we put it up on poles and use it to hang plants from. We could put a piece of shadecloth across the top and maybe put some broms underneath. We've even decided where it will go. I need to get my Epiphyliums [strap cactus] out of the SH. Maybe the Mumma broms would be okay out there. Shirley lovely pics of your gardens and so much room. Oh boy are you going to have fun at Wendy's on Friday. Are you taking a trailer? My son is going to Brisbane this year for the charity run so I might have a talk to him and see if he can bring some back for me. Don't know if he'll get them through the road blocks though. If they were bare-rooted it might be okay. Well I must go the boys will be stirring soon and I must get their clothes and brekkie ready. The day begins. Colleen

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 28, 2012
4:21 PM

Post #9060979

Shirley, your garden looks really lovely. Good luck in the war with critters. I had 2 more mice in the house (that I know of) last night. Got one and put it out, but the other is still hiding under the stove.

Nev and Colleen, that senega and ammonia has been part of my medicine cabinet for many years now. Good stuff alright. I know from having budgies that mice are drawn by the seeds and grains. I don't use grains for my birds (or my plants) so don't know what is bringing them in. I think we get the odd plague here and this could be one of them.

Again, I am in a rush this morning. Buses to catch, shopping to do. Payday stuff. So have a lovely day y'all.

Karen


works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 29, 2012
5:54 AM

Post #9061541

Hi everyone,

More of the same here again today weatherwise … starts out nice and sunny, then gets cloudy and then scattered showers, just enough to be a real nuisance. More power cuts too … whinge, whinge, whinge !!!

I made my first foray into Facebook today (with a bit of help from Tash) … a bit daunting to a first timer who is not particularly computer savvy but I’ll get the hang of it. Wendy, Nev, Colleen, you should have received requests to be my ‘friend’ if I did it correctly. Karen, are you on facebook too? I hope you didn’t experience any problems on the bus today.

Nev, I will have to remember the name of that medication with flu season just about upon us. I hope your pneumonia is on the mend. Thank you for the ‘pat on the back’ … actually I only showed you the tidy bits, there are a couple of gardens that are quite overgrown at the moment, some of them with dreaded cobblers pegs more than a metre tall. Fortunately the crotons grow very easily here and grow from cuttings. Sometimes when I am feeling lazy and can’t be bothered potting up a cutting, I just stick it in the ground and these will often grow.

We are on 5 acres and love it but it takes a lot of looking after and some days it just seems overwhelming … especially in summer when the grass grows so quickly. As you say, we have plenty of room but never seem to get enough time for 'special projects' like the shadehouse makeover.

Colleen, one more sleep till Wendy’s sale and I’m really looking forward to it … Michael reckons I’m like a kid in a lolly shop when it comes to plant sales … don’t know which ones I want and don’t know when to stop. And no, we wont be taking a trailer but we do have a station wagon and I have lots of boxes and a few plastic bags too. No doubt you will hear about my purchases over the next few days.

Anyway, gotta go, getting late ... photo is of neo Justin's Song pup

Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 29, 2012
1:34 PM

Post #9062162

Hi everyone - Well it looks like the antibiotics have finally “done their stuff”, I had a good night’s sleep last night and at last I feel like I’m going to live after all. In fact I feel so good this morning I’m going to start sorting and potting up my Neo seedlings today so possibly some pic’s tomorrow.

Colleen – It’s good to hear you have a fellow bromaholic in the area; now you’ll really waste some time talking brom’s every time he drops around, I don’t know, these bromaholics just don’t know when to stop; but its great conversation anyway. As for the orchids; well don’t worry about them, they’re easy to grow and brom’s and orchids really complement each other. Like brom’s, there are many different genera, what sort were they?

The trampoline frame sounds like a great idea; you could hang plants from beneath the shade cloth and put all the old mothers on the ground underneath. A great recycling project!

Colleen, you speak about road blocks between states; are inspection stations for cattle tick back on again? The last time we went to Queensland we weren’t even checked and when we went into South Australia we were just asked if we had any fruit and if we did we either had to eat it or bin it.

I remember years ago when I was bringing some orchids back from Queensland (and this would have been the early sixties) I was told I would need to get a certificate from the nursery to say the plants had been cleaned and dipped before I could bring them into NSW. I did this, and the bloke on the tick gate didn’t even look at them, and what’s more he told us that next time not to go to the extra expense of getting them dipped and getting a certificate, as they can be dipped at the tick gate free of charge, but just bring a plastic bag to catch the drips!

In any case, it’s always better to take them out of the pot and wash the roots prior to bringing them as they’re easier to pack, they’re lighter and you don’t run the risk of bringing some bugs into your collection. The main problem with plants from the tropical areas is “fly speck scale”, but if they are coming from a reputable grower you shouldn’t have problems. The only time I got caught was with an Ebay sale from Cairns, quite a while ago now; when I opened the box the plants were all filthy with “Flyspeck Scale” I took pic’s of it and then burnt the plants. I contacted the seller who denied it until I threatened to expose him by posting the pictures and identifying him. He quickly then changed his tune and admitted that maybe there could have been the “odd scale” and he refunded my money. To be fair to him though, I think he was just a “back yarder” and didn’t even know what Fly Speck Scale was until I sent him the pic’s, so “all’s well that ends well”.

Karen – As far as your mice problem goes, I wouldn’t worry about it, they won’t eat much anyway! Besides they are probably just looking for a nice dry place to stay for a while out of the rain. I am curious though, you say you don’t feed your birds grain, so what do you feed them?

Shirley – Good luck with Face Book; I’m still struggling with it a bit, but again it was Tash who came to my assistance and pointed me in the right direction originally. It’s great to have these obliging young ‘uns you can call on with your computer problems isn’t it? There's just one thing you need to be aware of though, it can be a great "time waster" if you don't control it!

I’m sure your gardens that are overgrown (as you describe them) are no different to anyone else’s, we all have these and if we didn’t we wouldn’t have anything to do and it would no longer be a challenge. Please tell an ignorant “New South Welshman” what are “cobblers pegs”, do you have a pic? You make me so envious when you say how easy you can grow the Crotons up there; how I wish that were the case down here.

I’ll finish now with a few random pic’s


All the best, Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 29, 2012
2:39 PM

Post #9062241

Hi all. Seems a bit cool here this morning. Must be imagining it, surely.

Shirley, have fun at Wendy's. Wish I could could get there today but no transport until Sunday. Wendy always has a surprise or two up her sleeve though so we'll see. Yes, I'm on FB as well so just look for Karen Warne or send me your ID and we'll link up. My avatar is a pink lotus.

Nev, the rainbow lorikeets are nectar eaters. They will nibble some grain, especially sunflowers, but it is not good for them to live on it. Their system isn't set up to digest it, so I guess they nibble on it for the roughage. I buy two mixes, one lorikeet wet mix, the other a dry mix, from the Aus. Parrot Society. Costs a fortune but at least I know the birds are getting some goodness from it, as it has added vitamins etc. The wet mix goes in under 2 minutes, then I leave the dry mix out for those who are still hungry. Bread is a no-no too, but when flowers are scarce I'll mix a plate of bread, a tablespoon of wet mix and water as it is then that the numbers swell and I couldn't afford to feed that many birds. Wildlife people would be furious, but the large flocks don't come in often so I don't think that the odd treat would do much harm. Green apples are also a favourite with them and those are generally cheap enough to put out one daily.

Hope everyone has a fine day ahead.
Karen




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perke_patch

March 30, 2012
5:24 AM

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Well Shirley is missing in action. probably still admiring her new broms. She certainly emptied a lot of room on the tables. I think it was 5 or 6 boxes plus a couple of bags. I think she even had to nurse one bag on the way home. the back of the wagon was completely full when they left. she got some very nice bargains and very nice plants. I'm sure she will provide a list and some pics when she gets off FB. I accepted her friend request today. They went away with one of Johnny's totem rings and the ideas for a new shadehouse using pipes like ours so they can put the totem rings on the framework.

Shirley saw what we mean today when we say "open the gates and they will come in". LOL. when she and Mike were leaving we opened the big gate so we could carry out all those boxes and before they could get into their 4x4 another couple came in and asked if they could look at our sale plants. Now you can all see exactly what we mean.

I took some pics today but don't know where I put the camera. Hopefully it is still in the pocket of my potting apron. Nev I was giving some of the seedlings a spray this morning and when I picked up the tray of aechmea mexicana there was green leaf folded over along the lid but when I opened the lit there was one large plant and just some little tiny green bits starting to shoot. I can't imagine that one seed would grow so big while others were just starting to shoot so I'd hazard a guess that a stray seed has found it's way in. Perhaps a billbergia??? Anyway I had to pull it out and pot it up in a seedling pot. I've marked it so we'll see what it grows into. I've been collecting ripe seed from the portea noetigii. Every other day there are 2 or 3 plump black pods. I don't like to waste them so I've been squeezing them into my very fine sieve and washing them under the tap. Then I let them dry a bit before finishing the drying on a paper towel before putting them into a takeaway container. After a few days to totally dry out I'll put them into a seed envelope. I also collected seed from an aechmea with a large purple spray infloresence but it doesn't have a name. Might be the one in the pic below. Oh and the recurvata peach parfait has some lovely big fat black seed pods. Wish the other recurvatas had pods like that. They are much harder to harvest. Have you grown on the peach parfait seeds yet Nev? Is it going to give me some lovely hybrids? Being small plants how quickly will they grow to maturity??

Anyway I must be off to bed now as we will have a busy couple days ahead of us.

Night all
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 30, 2012
6:14 AM

Post #9062933

Hi all … would you believe it. I had spent considerable time tonight typing up a post (in a word document so that I would have a copy of it in case DG website ate it, as it so often does) and just as I was preparing to save it and copy it to the forum, the bloody electric jug shorted out while Michael was making a cup of tea and it threw the circuit breaker, shut down the computer and I lost it all. I just can’t be bothered starting over at the moment, just so p*ssed off ... and now I have to go out in the morning to buy a new electric jug. What a disappointing end to a really great day.

Wendy, you must have posted while I was still dummy spitting about losing my document and having to start over. Thank you so much for a lovely morning … your gardens/broms are totally awesome. Very happy with my purchases and looking forward to your next sale. In fact, I have even started a new wish list … please keep one of those neo Peggy something ? was it Bailey … can’t remember … anyway, the last one I looked at. Also, the vriesea Kiwi collection Sunset, Dusk, Cream etc.

We picked up some 70% beige shadecloth from Bunnings on the way home to make up a temporary shelter for my new lovelies till the shadehouse progresses a bit more. And you are right, I did spend quite a bit of time admiring and photographing my newest brom acquisitions. Hope your sale continues to go well over the weekend.

Nev, I will post some pics of those wretched cobblers pegs tomorrow. I can’t believe you don’t have them, perhaps you know them by another name.

Karen, thanks for your FB details. I’ll follow up on that tomorrow too.

Well, that’s it for me, I'm off to bed too. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Shirley
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

March 30, 2012
2:16 PM

Post #9063450

Hi everyone. Have received a lovely lot of broms from Nev and will have to finish potting them up today. Thank you again Nev. Shirley, you will be wanting to get to that SH now and protect the lovely lot that you got from Wendy's sale yesterday. Can't wait to see them. How I wish that someone around here had sales like that. Maybe I'll have to have one myself. lol Maybe one day. Well I hope everyone has a wonderful day and I'll see you later. Colleen
DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 30, 2012
3:26 PM

Post #9063533

Good morning world. Shirley, a sale at Wendy's is always good time spent. Lovely people, so much to see. So pleased you did well and look forward to the pics.

Wendy, I am hoping we can get down Sunday, and that you still have a plant or two left. I'll be looking for shade lovers this time. But depends on Barry's plans (I haven't spoken to him yet).

Colleen, it would be fun to have a sale of your own. I don't know that I'll ever have enough pups to be able to do that but who knows.

Nev, hope you are feeling even better today, and didn't go overdoing it yesterday. You are very lucky if you don't have cobblers pegs. They are a real pest. Though most yards here are cleared, seedlings still pop up from time to time, usually in a hidden place, and before you know it, you have a plague again.

Have a great weekend everyone.
Karen
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 30, 2012
4:30 PM

Post #9063603

Hi everyone,

It seems like I may have overdone it a bit with the re-potting yesterday as I was in the lounge chair all night again coughing. I had another check-up with the Dr. yesterday morning and he said my chest still isn’t clear and I have more antibiotics to take, so it seems I’m not as good as I thought I was, BUGGER!

Karen – I understand what you say about the lorikeet food but for some reason I thought you had budgies as well and that’s why I thought you fed seed.

I like the pic’s you posted especially the first one, what is the name of that plant? I’m a bit partial to variegated plants especially ones that have a bit of form about them like that one has.

Wendy – Well it seems like Shirley really had a ball, new plants, new shade cloth in fact everything right up until when the kettle blew up and she lost everything she had typed. Now she probably can’t buy a kettle because she spent all her money on brom’s, so it looks like she’ll have to rub two sticks together and boil the old billy. It’ll be interesting to see what the strange seedling turns out to be won’t it? There’s always something unexpected with growing seeds.

I wouldn’t mind a few Portea petropolitania var noettigii seeds if you have any to spare, it’s one I don’t have and neither does my seed growing friend, Laurie. Perhaps we could swap you a bit of some other seed for some if you have excess. I also wouldn’t mind a bit from your unnamed Aechmea like the one in your pic., I thought at first it may be Ae ‘Shelldancer’ but the inflorescence is straight and unlike mine which is curved, but then it may just be a different clone.

As for the recurvata ‘Peach Parfait’, I didn’t pollinate them and it was growing beside a few other similar sized compact plants such as Recurvata ‘Sunrise’, ‘Little Surprise’, Nina’s Special’ and ‘Rising Sun’, so anything’s possible when you have ants around. Add to this the possibility of a ‘selfing’ and the possibilities are endless.

As for the length of time for them to grow, I’ve found them slower than Billbergias, but faster than Neo’s but then that’s just down here which would be much different to up where you live where I imagine they would grow much faster. I personally haven’t grown any ‘Peach Parfait’ seed but I definitely think they would be worth trying anyway.

Shirley – Seems you had quite a “ball” buying brom’s at Wendy and Johnny’s and I’m sure we all are waiting anxiously to see the pic’s of your haul!

Bad luck about the kettle, and I can understand your frustration at losing all you had typed, anyway you can always type it again if you can still remember it after all the “brom shopping excitement”.

I looked up “Cobbler’s Peg” on Google and it seems it’s what we call “Devils Pitchforks” down here and I agree, they are a real pain in the arse when they attaché to your trouser leg or woollen jumpers are even worse. I was amazed to read all about the uses they have as well as being medicinal, see: http://earthlyenergies.blogspot.com.au/2010/08/cobblers-peg-...

I had already posted this info this morning, but realised I had accidently posted a BCR pic by mistake and had to get D.G. to remove it before the Copyright Police came knocking on my door.

I’ll now try again and finish with a few more random shots from some old files of “MY” plants.

All the best Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 30, 2012
5:56 PM

Post #9063682

Shirley, I meant to mention your kettle blowing up but forgot, sorry. What a pain. When things go wrong they really test us, don't they. I have a problem this morning, I can't get my emails to download. Apparently there is one email that won't download and it is blocking the lot. Bigpond won't help, says I'll have to pay to get a technician in, or they could do it, but I would have to lose everything, email addresses, old emails, new emails I haven't got yet, the lot, and start again. Am waiting for Barry to get here to tell me what to do. He is an ex Telstra technician so might have a bit of an idea. But some things they used to do as part of the service are apparently now to be paid for.

Nev, had a sneaking suspicion you might have overdone it. Now just rest up and recover, and let someone look after you some. That plant is a NOID. It is quite a small, compact neo, and very pretty. The red one is also small and is from Wendy's. It is Neo. Fairy Paint X Chlorostricta.

Karen
2 Noids, mini's.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 31, 2012
2:46 AM

Post #9063962

Hmmmm...no one else in today. Must have all gone to brom sales. I did too. Two of them actually. Got some beautiful plants too. Thought I'd get them on while I have the computer. Barry got my emails going. It was just one email that was gigantic, and the computer couldn't download it. Once he got into webmail and deleted it the rest came in fine. Imagine what that one email could have cost me if I'd had to pay for a technician to fix it. Thank goodness for Barry.

Karen

Here are the pics of my newest additions to my brom family...all utter beauties!
1. Nidularium Tapestry (from Wendy)
2. Empress X Zonata (from Wendy)
3. Neo. Sweet Dreams X Painted Desert (from Wendy)
4. Neo. Hearts Music X Grace Darling (from Wendy)
5. Neo Enchantment Var. (from another yard sale we stopped at)



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perke_patch

March 31, 2012
4:39 AM

Post #9064000

Wow Shirley, what a downer to end a great day. We enjoyed the hours you spent with us and any time you are down this side of town you are welcome to pop in for a cuppa. can't always promise to have biscuits though. Lucky I'm on a diet and not eating biscuits at the moment or there wouldn't have been any. LOL. Anyway we really enjoyed your visit and after you left there were 2 other lots in while the gate was open. I'll certainly put your new ones on the wish list I have here. I'll continue looking for them for you.

Karen great to see you make it today. We thought you weren't going to make it so it was a pleasant surprise. Glad you like your new broms.

Nev I'll get that seed off to you on Monday if possible. I've washed and dried them already. I never thought about my camera today. wonder where I put it down. didn't see it. I'll have to look tomorrow. I'll take a pic of the NOID aechmea too Nev so you know what seed you are getting. You may even be able to put a name to it for me.

Well I'm having an early night again. Finished today without feeling tired at all. Must have been the early night last night. Usually we are just hanging for a sit down with feet up so we buy tea but tonight I came upstairs and immediately put veges on, made Johnny a cuppa and them put the chops on. We had a lovely tea and then I got to sit down with my feet up with a cuppa before jumping up to do the dishes. Now another early night is needed again.

Night all. Promise I'll post some pics tomorrow night.

Wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

March 31, 2012
6:54 AM

Post #9064152

Hello everyone

Well, we went out this morning to buy a new electric jug as planned but ended up being out most of the day. We also needed a new cordless phone and a few other things as well …don’t know where the day went … So another day over, another month gone, seems like we’re always chasing our tails and getting nowhere fast.

Colleen, lucky you, with your broms from Nev. You too, Karen, with your lovely purchases from Wendy and glad to hear you got your computer fixed.

Nev, I tried rubbing two sticks together, couldn’t get the things to strike … maybe that’s where I wasted so much time today. Back in business now though with a new Sunbeam … same as the last one, hope it lasts a bit longer. Don’t know what went wrong, maybe it got wet or something. Also got a new Panasonic cordless phone (actually a set of 3). We had a similar one before and when the battery went flat we bought a new one from Battery World which wasn’t very successful. You can’t buy a genuine battery and I have since been told that replacement batteries rarely work well. So, when the battery goes flat, throw away the phone and buy a new one ..it did last a few years, but still. We really have become a throwaway society … not that consumers have much choice in the matter.

And yes Nev, I certainly did have a ball at Wendy and Johnny’s yesterday and I am very happy with my ‘haul’. Also enjoyed a lovely chat over coffee and bikkies and got some lovely bargains and great ideas too. I could very easily do it all again with very little arm twisting involved.

I tried the link you posted for cobblers pegs but couldn’t access it. I had no idea they could actually be useful for something, they’re a curse, I reckon. Anyway, Nev, take it easy and get yourself better before it starts getting too cold, it’s much harder to shake off bugs in the winter.

Wendy, thanks again for your hospitality and hopefully we can do it again one of these days. We rarely get over to your side of town but it was certainly a very enjoyable day. I have been trying to decide which one of my new broms is my favourite but I just can’t decide … I love them all. I think ‘enchantment’ is very close to the top of the list and I’ll post a photo of it and one of ‘jaws’, also vying for top place.

Hope your sale is progressing well and it’s good to hear it’s not tiring you out. I know I feel wiped out after shopping today … maybe it’s just a bit of a let down after such a great day yesterday.

Anyway, we expect a couple of the grandkids up for the day tomorrow and being school holidays, will no doubt see quite a bit of them and have a few overnight stays over the next couple of weeks. And you wonder why we never get anything done !!

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

March 31, 2012
2:01 PM

Post #9064498

Hi everyone,

I’ve just realised that I forgot to put names on the pictures I posted yesterday so I’d better fix it up before Colleen gets on to me.

Pic. No.1 is one of my seedlings Neo. Concentric x [Charm x Cracker Jack], No. 2. Is Neoregelia ‘Black Forest’, No.3. is another of my seedlings Neo. Painted Lady (sport) x Grace, No.4 is again another of my seedlings Neo. [Carcharodon x Concentrica] x Self and No.5 is a nice little small/medium one called Neo. ‘Cheery Day’

Karen – Would you write my name on a tag and stick it in that NOID so that you remember when you get a spare pup that I would like to buy/swap one? Your red one is similar to a little red one I have called Neo. Sarmentosa x Chlorosticta and it seems quite a lot of nice small to medium reds have been bred from Chlorosticta in the past.

That’s a nice haul you got from Wendy and Johnny; I especially like the two “radial reds” Sweet Dreams x Painted Desert and Heart’s Music x Grace Darling. Were they seedlings that Wendy and Johnny made or were they from some other hybridizer?

Wendy – I’m glad you had a nice day “brom talking” with Karen. It’s always good to have friends around who you can discus brom’s with, and doesn’t it make the time fly. I know from when Jen dropped in here earlier in the month it seemed like she had only just got here and it was time to leave and we had been talking brom’s for three hours by then.

Shirley –What you say about a “throw away society” is very true, it seems that these days they only make appliances to last a little bit past the warranty date before they go “Kaput” and you’re digging your hand into your pocket to buy another. The up side I suppose is that they are much cheaper than they used to be even though the quality isn’t there. This is especially true of the Chinese power tools; I bought a battery drill with two batteries on special for $49 with a two year replacement warranty. When the batteries wouldn’t hold a charge after six months I took it back to Bunnings and the lady in the tool department replaced it. Six months later, the same thing; so back to Bunnings but this time the bloke behind the counter pointed out to me the guarantee only covered the drill and not the batteries or the charger, but offered to order in a new battery for me which I would have to pay for. Now I mean to say, what good is a guarantee that only covers half of the product? I suppose I should have read the guarantee more closely.

On the other hand I have an Australian made “Black & Decker” electric drill which I got for a 21st birthday present that’s still going and that’s fifty years of service, not bad for locally made stuff; but now they’re all made “off shore” from inferior components and are “throw away” as well.

Gee Shirley you got me wound up didn’t you? At least the brom’s don’t break down and at least you know what you’re getting with them. What a way to finish your post with Enchantment and Jaws, they’re two really classy brom’s and Enchantment is an “all time” favourite of mine, I think it’s a great brom.

That’s it for this morning, and now a few more old Neo pic’s. No.1 is Neo Citation (USA), No.2 is Neo Concentrica x Painted Lady, No.3 is Neo Crimson Glow 'Red Fleck' - this is a little bit of a novelty because when it's suspended up high and the light shows through the leaves, there are small red flecks in the leaves which aren't visible when it's on a bench. No.4 is another of my seedlings from the Neo Concentrica x [Charm x Crackerjack] stable and No.5 is an old favourite, Neo Dr. Oeser 'Special Red'.


All the best Nev.

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DawnSong
Brisbane
Australia

March 31, 2012
9:57 PM

Post #9065030

Shirley, aren't Wendy and John the greatest. Jen is great too but she may not have been there Friday. Nice plants in those pics too.

Nev, a feast for the eyes as always. I do have your name (mentally) tagged on that plant. I got it not long before Christmas last year, so don't know how old it is or when it will start setting pups. I love it, very much a favourite.

I am so happy with my newbies this weekend. I don't know if those two you mentioned are Wendy's seedlings, but she will know. I really fell in love with them, particularly Hearts Music X Grace Darling. The fine coloured stripes are different and lovely.

And to finish it for the week, we went to the Beenleigh Markets this morning. The plants were not great, but a "stray" seller (one I haven't seen before) had this little darlin' which drew me in. I loved it as a pup, but then he showed me the mature plant in flower he had on display, and YES! Sold for $5. A beautiful little vriesea Saundersii. Oh, I've had a great weekend!

Karen

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perke_patch

April 1, 2012
5:42 AM

Post #9065196

Hi everyone.

Nev those plants of Karen's are probably Alan Freeman hybrids not ours. We've had them for ages and ages and they both grow into beautiful plants when they flush.
Karen well done on vr saundersii. That is a species so well worth growing and collecting seed. I think we have some of those growing already. I think Nev may have even sent the seed. Or someone else perhaps. For those who don't know Jen started helping us out when Johnny was having trouble with swollen joints and now she brings over a couple of boxes of plants to sell on the weekend too. We don't know how we did it by ourselves before Jen started helping as this weekend there were times when all 3 of us were running all over the place looking after visitors. Usually Sunday is much quieter but not today. Thank heavens Jen showed up. Around 12 noon I put the kettle on and we were planning on having a bite to eat but next thing it was nearly 3pm and we hadn't had any lunch yet. That's how it goes around here. We were lucky to get a cuppa tea then. Jen after you left we had another little burst but then it was all quiet by 4:30 when Andrew turned up. So he shared a couple of beers with Johnny while I started packing up. Then they chipped in and we cleared the drive for the cars to come back in.

Shirley we enjoyed your visit and you will be welcome here any time. I've added those plants to your wish list for next visit.

Nev there were more ripe seed pods today on noetigii. Being a species it is worth collecting these seeds. I had a customer today who wanted one of those plants. I know we must have pups from it around the yard but it was just too hard to even look for one. So if we come across one we will put it aside for next time we see them. I'll try to get your seed in the mail tomorrow.

We will have a new member soon. A lady who was here today with her husband wants to join the group. She is very into broms and has quite a few already and added to her collection today. We were talking and the subject came up about giving up work and why. We had both retired from senior positions to stay at home but where I did it to care for Johnny she did it to care for herself. When I asked why she replied recurring cancer. I nearly fell over as she looked so well. Anyway I guess I should think before asking things like that or be prepared for the answer. Anyway I am waiting for her to send me a friend request on fb and I'll join her to the fb groups and send her the link to DG too. So look for Linda to join our discussions soon.

I'm off to bed again. Seems like a do that a lot doesn't it??? we've had a busy day and tomorrow I'm taking Jen to see my brothers yard full of broms. He is tickled pink that someone wants to see his place. He goes back to work in WA on Wednesday and will not be home again for another month. I found the camera today hidden underneath something downstairs but now it is in the lounge. I'll upload the pics tomorrow. for now have attached a pic of noetigii for you to see.

Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

April 1, 2012
6:26 AM

Post #9065230

Hi all, just a quickie, then I'm off to bed.

So glad your sale went well Wendy. I reckon what you should do now is invest the sale proceeds into new broms which will then mean you have to clear out more of the ones you have now to make room for the new ones. You could have another brom sale to get rid of those that you don't have room for and everybody's happy LOL

Thanks for keeping the wish list for my next visit which I am hoping will not be too far off. Perhaps I can add to it from time to time ... if you haven't already, please add that neophytum to the list too, Johnny will know which one. Thanks again, and we both thoroughly enjoyed our visit to your 'magic' garden.

We managed to get a little bit of work done this arvo in the time after the kids went home and our neighbour came to visit. Then, within minutes of her leaving and getting back to work, the rain started. Fortunately it didn't last long and we managed to do a little bit more before dark. Ah well ... there's always tomorrow.

See you then, Shirley

Pics are Jewellery Shop and Painted Lady ... thanks again to Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

April 1, 2012
2:13 PM

Post #9065746

Hi everyone,

Well it rained here overnight and although it’s stopped now, they have forecast rain for all of this week so it looks like any outside work will have to be put on hold (yet again).

Karen – You got a bargain with the Vriesea saundersii, it’s really a plant well worth growing. It’s most attractive with the spotting which is even more pronounced when viewed from beneath. I have a couple of plants hanging in my Vriesea house and they are real “standouts”. As well as the attractive spotting they do produce a nice inflorescence with unexpected yellow flowers which is in stark contrast to the colour of the plant.
Because it’s a species, I think it’s important that everyone tries to grow it and prevent it from becoming another extinct or endangered species like so many others who are getting their natural habitats destroyed every day. It isn’t what I would call a “fast” grower (at least not in my climate) but it is very easy to grow from seed, (and yes it was me who sent you the seed Wendy). I’ve grown hundreds of them and still have them “coming out of my ears” so if anyone wants to try a few 2” high seedlings you’re welcome to some for just the cost of the postage, just let me know.

Wendy – Thanks for clearing up who the hybridizer of those plants of Karen’s was. Alan Freeman certainly bred some great plants and not just “one offs” either, he just seemed to have that magic touch and turned them out in their thousands. The other thing he did was use Neo. Concentrica quite a lot in his crosses and this proves just what a superb parent it really is.

I’m pleased to hear your sale was another success, I just wish I lived somewhere near a place like yours that had regular sales where I could go and window shop and perhaps buy a few more plants that I don’t have. Jen must have been a big help as I know what it’s like when everyone all comes at once and you’re running around like “chooks with their heads cut off” and trying to keep an eye out for any “light fingered” patrons as well.

You’re quite right when you say that it’s worth collecting the seeds from species like the Portea you mentioned for all the reasons I mentioned above, and if you ever find yourself with an oversupply of seed, I can always find them a good home for you as I have a few very keen young species growers who would love to try some.

The only thing I was thinking was that if you had another different Portea or even an Aechmea in flower at the same time, the insects may have cross pollinated them, so cast your mind back to when it was in flower and write down any possibilities while you can still remember them, because even if they don’t turn out to be true to form, you could also have some interesting hybrids from them as well, and in any case the seed is still well worth growing.

I’m sure we’ll all look forward to having Linda join our group and as I’ve said before, it’s probably the smallest group that I’ve ever been associated with, but it’s by far the most friendly and there’s never any “bitching” or “one upmanship” like on some of the larger groups. As for you worrying about asking why Linda left work and getting the unexpected answer, I wouldn’t worry too much, as most people who have or have had cancer have usually come to terms with it and just treat it as another inconvenience. I know when I was first diagnosed, people seemed very embarrassed to even mention the dreaded “C” word in front of me in case they upset me, I found it very good therapy to actually talk about it and when you do, it’s surprising just how many people you find are in the same boat and either have cancer themself, or have a close friend or family member who has it. An besides what better therapy could you get than growing, swapping and discussing brom’s among friends

Shirley – Yes no matter what job you’re trying to get done, there always seems to be something or someone that will interrupt your good intentions, but as you say, “there’s always tomorrow” (that’s if it’s not raining). They’re two more nice plants you’ve scored from Wendy, but I think the second one looks more like “Painted Delight” than “Painted Lady” so I’d check with Wendy to make sure, as plants do vary depending on where or how they were grown.

That’s it for this morning, and now a few more Neo pic’s from old files (I really must get myself into gear and take some new ones). Every time I think about it, it’s raining and when it’s fine I always find other things that need doing, but I will get some more up to date ones soon, I promise.

Today's pics are as follows, No. 1. Neo 'Garnish' , No. 2. Neo 'Gee Whiz', and three very different 'Gold Fevers' starting with No. 3. Neo 'Gold Fever', No. 4. Neo. 'Gold Fever Select' and no.5. Neo 'Gold Fever Too'


All the best Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

April 1, 2012
2:34 PM

Post #9065771

Hi everyone. Well, I do wish I lived closer to someone who had regular sales too. All I can do is enjoy the posts of someone else who's been to a sale, especially Wendy's sales. I'm still trying to talk my sister in Brisbane to go to Wendy's but I haven't succeeded yet. I told her that Wendy was having a sale but she won't drive so she has to get someone else to take her and I think that is the problem. Her husband is waiting for a knee replacement and last time he was ready to have it done he had a scratch on his leg so they sent him home. She's scared that he will scratch it again and he's really having trouble doing anything til it's done. Nev you had better put some of those VR. saundersii seedlings aside for me please. I do have a small plant but who knows how long before I get seeds from it and in the meantime I will have some seedlings already growing. I'll put a pic up of the Neo ThunderbirdX Avalon that I put into the palm stump that I took Predator out of. I can almost see it colouring up a bit more each day and getting bigger. Here tis. Colleen

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

April 1, 2012
8:46 PM

Post #9066193

Hi everyone, sorry I have been so absent, we have had so much going on, I will do my best to keep up in the new month and get back into it all.

I just started a new thread for us,

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1250088/

see you all over there,
Tash

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