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Sustainable Alternatives: New Federal Law on Pollutants

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darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

March 18, 2012
12:33 PM

Post #9047457

A new federal law went into effect in October requiring both homeowners and commercial operations that have water on or abutting their property (creek, lake, or just a trickle) to obtain a permit for pesticide and other pollutant use... and that includes using RoundUp. It's called the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES).

You'll have to look it up because I forgot to copy the URL...

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

March 18, 2012
1:51 PM

Post #9047543

Oooo, that's a good law! How nice!

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 19, 2012
10:19 AM

Post #9048764

I agree it's a good law, but I can't see many homeowners getting a permit.

I should find the info and give it to my neighbor up the street, he's always out there spraying Round Up on his immaculate lawn! He probably hates me 'cause my front yard is a sea of weeds. I HATE GRASS! He has a creek abutting his back yard, and I often see deer going back there to drink.

This link is a starting point...

http://cfpub.epa.gov/npdes/

FrillyLily
springfield area, MO
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
11:06 AM

Post #9107288

well the only way to enforce that is to make stores that sell chemical sprays to require seeing a permit from a customer before selling them the product. I think Lowes and Home Depot, Walmart, ect will really balk at losing business and the permits will of course money. Maybe not at first, but sooner or later they will. Besides all it means is you need a permit, the spray will still be there, but the gov will have your money first! Don't think for one min that the big farmers and such will not still be spraying, all this will do is hurt the little guy...

Just because someone hates grass doesn't mean everyone else should not be able to grow it. I agree that it is a bad idea to spray around a creek. There are probably already laws about that, that simply are not being enforced. Have you reported him to the state conservation or such? As long as he is mixing and using properly, there is nothing they will do most likely, unless there are laws about spraying within so many feet ect.
He probably thinks if you would control your weeds, they wouldn't get into his lawn and then he wouldn't have to spray so much. I know that is what I think about my lawn. I gave up on grass, because I can't afford to spray all the time, and my neighbor next door doesn't give a hoot what her weedy overgrown slob lawn is doing to everyone else's lawn when it produces a zillion dandelion and other seeds. So it's either give up, or spray, spray, spray, since my neighbor takes no measures...

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

May 3, 2012
12:14 PM

Post #9108891

FrillyLily - [quote]my neighbor next door doesn't give a hoot what her weedy overgrown slob lawn is doing to everyone else's lawn when it produces a zillion dandelion and other seeds[/quote]

Sounds like your neighbor hates grass as much as I do. Fortunately, I live in a neighborhood where most of the front yards look like mine. If I'm ever told to spray cancer causing weed killers on my front yard - I'll move!
FrillyLily
springfield area, MO
(Zone 5b)

May 3, 2012
8:11 PM

Post #9109499

nah, she just doesn't care what her yard is, as long as she doesn't have to work. It is littered with toys toys toys, and a host of other junk and is rarely mowed because they simply are too lazy to do it. Dontcha just love neighbors like that? Ya know the ones that sit on their porch and scream at their kids, instead of actually going out there and dishing out a dose of what's needed lol My favorite is when they start counting... "1", "2", "3", 3 and 1/2"...

I hear you on the cancer causing weed killers... I am pretty sure 'they' are poisoning us with food too. For some reason I think most of the cereal on the shelf will kill you if eaten regularly. I cannot believe people eat that garbage. Little pressed shapes of food coloring and sugar a...n...d... is it play dough?




HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

May 4, 2012
6:57 AM

Post #9109912

FrillyLily - Hmmm... sounds like you have a neighbor from h*ll! We do mow our "lawn" so it doesn't look bad. We garden as organically as possible, and don't buy much, if any boxed, "food".

Perhaps your local zoning compliance officer could help with your neighbor's mess.
FrillyLily
springfield area, MO
(Zone 5b)

May 5, 2012
2:00 PM

Post #9111659

nah,we don't live in city limits. Weeds or not, keeping the place mowed really makes a difference though, wish they mowed more often.

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