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franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 23, 2012
7:26 PM

Post #9054620

This is the first of mine to leaf out this year. It still has some filling in to do. I have about 100+ coming up.

Ani Machi aka Geisha

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virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

March 24, 2012
2:57 AM

Post #9054831

Mine too! Also here is a bare root I potted up last month, Sagae. Lots of hosta's coming up after two days of rain, think I saw a bright yellow one and I will check that out later today.

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ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

March 24, 2012
4:50 AM

Post #9054862

HOPEFULLY, I won't see any leafing out for a few more weeks. However, with three days of record-breaking heat this past week, all my crocuses were blooming. Likely they will be early this year.
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

March 24, 2012
1:46 PM

Post #9055419

As for me I'm hoping nothing is coming up, as I'm in Florida until early April. Thanks for posting Viola Ann. I was worried I wouldn't be home in case of a late frost.
Rose1656
Oquawka, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 26, 2012
3:08 PM

Post #9058075

I've got lots coming up, so I hope that the cold weather is done for this season...

Korean Snow, Lakeside Missy Little, Little Treasure, Seventh Heaven and White Feather

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franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 26, 2012
4:01 PM

Post #9058123

How in the world does that White Feather grow without having any chlorophyll? Does it green up later in the season?

Keep your eye on the weather up there. The cold is getting a little close.

I found a good frost/freeze weather map online.
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Temperature/FrostFreeze.aspx

This is the frost/freeze forecast map for tomorrow.

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Rose1656
Oquawka, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 26, 2012
5:00 PM

Post #9058211

Yes, it does green up like White Wall Tires. Thanks for that link. I think we're about a week ahead of last year's growth. Unfortunately we did have a freeze the first week of May last year. So, I'll just keep my fingers crossed that we make it through without any damage.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 28, 2012
11:06 AM

Post #9060511

I think ALL of mine at home in IL are up, my Northern Sunray [undulata] is the only one unfurling.

In WISC, only lancifolia is unfurling, and many of them are peeking thru the soil, but not all of them yet... maybe half.

I was planning on doing a 10|10|10 fertilizer today, and maybe some compost. that also means going to the store, which i really didn't want to do today.

what's everyone favorite fertilizer?

Eleven

Eleven
Royal Oak, MI
(Zone 6a)

March 28, 2012
12:59 PM

Post #9060665

I have lots up but only a few unfurling so far. My overachievers:

1) Pineapple Poll, 2) Rainbow's End, 3) Paradise Island, and 4) montana Aureomarginata

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ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 2, 2012
9:22 AM

Post #9066810

Hi,I drop in from time to time.I have a question about August Moon hosta. I have had it for 3 years and it has always done well.Last year it seemed to be struggling to put out the usual nice bouquet of leaves but this year it has disappeared altogether.
Has anyone had bad luck with this variety.

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
11:08 AM

Post #9066925

Nothing leafing out here, but I have several which have broken ground. Too early. Crossing my fingers that we don't have a prolonged cold spell.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
11:36 AM

Post #9066959

I dont have August Moon -- sorry i can't help ya.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 2, 2012
1:59 PM

Post #9067178

Thanks for trying.Guess its just lost.
kiseta
Augusta, GA
(Zone 8a)

April 2, 2012
2:06 PM

Post #9067191

I grow my hostas in containers, they are doing grate under my JM tree. Etelka

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 2, 2012
3:10 PM

Post #9067283

They look wonderful.

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
4:01 PM

Post #9067339

Joanne - I think it's waaay too early to write off any hosta as gone this year. When would you normally see your hostas? And when in that time frame does August Moon usually show up? Don't forget we are all experiencing warmer than normal temps, but it may just not yet be ready to brave the elements.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

April 2, 2012
4:24 PM

Post #9067360

June and Great Expectations, looking good so far. :)

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franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
4:32 PM

Post #9067364

ge1836 wrote:Hi,I drop in from time to time.I have a question about August Moon hosta. I have had it for 3 years and it has always done well.Last year it seemed to be struggling to put out the usual nice bouquet of leaves but this year it has disappeared altogether.
Has anyone had bad luck with this variety.


Some people have been reporting a slight setback in some hosta primarily due to lack of water during the heatwave last Summer. Give it time. It is still early. The majority of mine are up and coming up but a few are still not showing yet.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
5:18 PM

Post #9067417

>>primarily due to lack of water

I was going to mention this somewhere but now that is was mentioned...

I had a circle of liners ... [i purchased these plastic lawn boarder things, and made a circle] so i could watch them more closely.

When we were in Wisc last weekend, I noticed when DH backed the boat into the driveway, the boat completely covered my "circle".

I was wondering if they did not get enough water over teh winter, if they could possibly die?
i'd be deviated, -- there are about 11 hostas,, and cost me a bit of change.
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
6:17 PM

Post #9067497

It is possible that they could have completely dried out. Being that they were liners they don't have all that much moisture in them to begin with.
Rose1656
Oquawka, IL
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
6:34 PM

Post #9067512

I've been busy getting my sprinklers going! i don't remember ever watering this early...might be a very long summer. Several hostas in one bed were actually wilting!

Rose

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

April 2, 2012
7:36 PM

Post #9067580

that stinks... i can't get back up there for about 10 days.

I do know that our Park [in Wisc] did get snow this year, most so than we got at home here...
I just hope it was enough.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2012
2:14 AM

Post #9067749

Viola Ann: I will just wai and see. Other hostas are nosed up already some Blue Angels are slow. I keep forgetting ,not all plants have the same schedule.
hostages
Wyoming, MN

April 3, 2012
7:25 AM

Post #9067983

Just staring to see hostas here. Crocus are done dafs are starting and tulips are thinking about blooming. Many things are growing, but the hostas are playing it safe. We are at least a month ahead of schedule and I am waiting for the other foot to drop, ie. frost/freeze to happen. Chance of frost next three nights here.

Gary

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2012
7:30 AM

Post #9067990

Same here.Gary.
Many varieties under trees haven't shown yet. O K by me. My lilies are nearly all broken soil a week now and freezes are happening. I just have no idea what june will bring

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

April 3, 2012
8:27 AM

Post #9068068

We are at least two weeks ahead of our normal schedule, due to the unseasonably warm winter/spring in the Midwest. Here's a few of my hostas as they look today:

Pic 1 - "Honeybell" and "Albo Marginata" bordering my shade garden

Pic 2 - "Golden Tiara" and "Sun Power"

Pic 3 - "Jurassic Park" emerging from a slumber under mulch

Pic 4 - "Sum and Substance"

Re: Fertilizer - I use Milorganite on all of my hostas. It's inexpensive (I get a 50# bag for about $16) and almost pure nitrogen (6-2-0), which seems to give me good color and large plants.

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LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

April 3, 2012
8:31 AM

Post #9068072

Here is how that same clump of "Sum and Substance" looked on April 26, 2011. We are fully three weeks ahead of last year!

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2012
9:04 AM

Post #9068111

Leawood: thats the kind of growth and size I am looking for from the new slope garden.
Its not planted yet but Hallsons is sending
Earth Angel
Independence
Paradigm
with a spattering of ferns:
Ghost
Applecourt.
I transplanted Guacamole split into three plants
Smaller variegated leaf found here
Divided Blue Cadet into 6 plants that are along the border

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

April 3, 2012
9:15 AM

Post #9068127

I love "guacamole" - it's one of the most dependable, durable hostas in my garden.

Pic 1: "Guacamole" in the center of the pic

Pic 2: ""Guacamole" , "Sum and Substance" and heuchera "Stoplight" in the foreground

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2012
10:09 AM

Post #9068194

Just beautiful
mccaine
Wilmington, NC
(Zone 8a)

April 3, 2012
1:00 PM

Post #9068365

Really nice plants Leawood

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

April 9, 2012
6:37 PM

Post #9076307

tcs1366 wrote:>>primarily due to lack of water

I had a circle of liners ... [i purchased these plastic lawn boarder things, and made a circle] so i could watch them more closely.

When we were in Wisc last weekend, I noticed when DH backed the boat into the driveway, the boat completely covered my "circle".

I was wondering if they did not get enough water over the winter, if they could possibly die?


just got back up here today, and there is growth on ALL my new hostas. the only one in the circle is Aadrvark... and it was struggling last year. so it may not survive,
but all the others did. YAY.

I've poured about 3 gallons of water on them today.

we are expecting 2 nights of 28f

but i feel i'm pretty protected as i'm in the woods.

I've got a ton of Lancifolia that are fully unfurled and looking just fine.



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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 10, 2012
2:09 AM

Post #9076584

Its dry here too. I wish we would get 1 night of rain so I can see the hostas emerging.Some are up quite far and others are no-where.
I had a tree cut down in January. I am concerned that Mister. Watson wont like sun and another Gold Tiera has disappeared due to the trunk dropping on it.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

April 26, 2012
6:24 AM

Post #9098363

I have not taken any images of my plants in Wisc, but most if not all are showing signs on life, even Aardvark, which i thought was dead.

here are a few from home [ IL ]

in the front -- cute little seedling, about 3 yrs old. I'm sure one of the "parents" is Ginko Craig ... has a nice pie crust edge.
then Queen Josephine, Paul's Glory [still unfurling] in the back is Regal Splendor [never fully recovered from when i divided it, and Patriot still making an appearance.

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LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

April 26, 2012
5:16 PM

Post #9099122

"Jurassic Park" with "Sum and Substance" in the background and on the right.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 27, 2012
1:39 AM

Post #9099581

Nice and big.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

April 29, 2012
1:46 PM

Post #9102781

Almost everything has piped, I was worried about Dragon's eye, finally saw small pip today. Should be a great Hosta this year. I like upright hosta's and this one is the most upright I've seen. :)

1- Dream Queen
2--Minuteman
3--Yellow Polka Dot Bikini
4--Golden Meadows
5--Paradise Island

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Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 1, 2012
1:16 PM

Post #9105910

I love this one, the brightest in my garden in the Spring- "Nancy"


and Liberty looking good this year, I think.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 1, 2012
2:05 PM

Post #9106005

What an outstanding hosta. Beautiful planter too.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 1, 2012
4:17 PM

Post #9106150

Thanks for sharing, I really like that 'Nancy', is it slug resistant? Where did you get it, I don't recall seeing one before. :)
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 1, 2012
4:22 PM

Post #9106152

I picked Nancy up at NEw Hampshire hostas and it has grown quite well...this is year three for it. It actually is stuck in that pot, which is a problem! I meant to take it out and put it in the ground qt the end of last season but I could not get it out. I just turned the pot upside down for the winter. Yeah, it has fairly thick leaves- I only buy ones with good substance because of the scourge in my garden!

I added Golden Meadows last year, too- looking forward to seeing that one.
plantnutz
Austell, GA
(Zone 7a)

May 1, 2012
4:46 PM

Post #9106191

Noreaster - we have similar taste - last year I added Nancy, Liberty, Dancing Queen and a few others. I just received Golden Meadows, War Paint and Lakeside Paisley Print and a few others. Yep, got it bad!

Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 1, 2012
4:59 PM

Post #9106211

Oh, I've been coveting Lakeside Paisley Print too!

I saw a really nice sized Golden Meadows last year at a local nursery and couldn't resist.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 1, 2012
5:26 PM

Post #9106239

I just ordered 'Lakeside Love Affair' from BentleysGardens, can't wait to see that one. Got my 'Sharp Dressed Man' and the 'Yellow Polka Dot Bikini'. Now all I want is 'Nancy' and 'Hanky Panky.'

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

May 1, 2012
6:39 PM

Post #9106354

I think I'll have to get 'Nancy'. I bought it for a friend named Nancy a few years ago, but she managed to kill it off. I might grow the next one for awhile and then take a division for her.

I have a new 'Lakeside Paisley Print' and 'Charlotte's Web' and 'Cherry Tart' - all bought late last autumn and they all made it through the winter sunk into my veggie garden.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 2, 2012
1:34 AM

Post #9106681

Noreaster.I have a very small hosta in a pot with other plants.It never occured to me there would be an "outgrown" problem.I think I will plant larger hostas in a seperate pot in the planter so roots have nowhere far to go. I plant lilies like this. Then lift the pot out of the planter when I put them in the garden.
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
4:48 AM

Post #9106790

The problem with Nancy in the pot is that the pot has rounded sides which are wider than the opening. I put I wire basket in there before I put the hosta in. My plan was to lift the wire basket out and put it in the ground, but the roots have expanded so much that it's stuck. So I either keep it in there permanently or I have to break the pot to get it out, I think.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 2, 2012
7:25 AM

Post #9106970

Ohhhh krapp. Looks like the pot would have to go if it was here at my house. I dont buy ceramic for that reason. The 2 planters I have are on the front porch and protected. I like fiberglass or some non clay composition.
Slanted sides were just a lucky choice. It didnt occur to me about the rounded form.
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
7:50 AM

Post #9107011

Yep, slanted or straight sides are more sensible- lesson learned.

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

May 2, 2012
8:03 AM

Post #9107032

Noreaster - have you tried getting it REALLY wet? Still won't budge? You COULD trim the roots. Might set the plant back a bit, but you'd salvage the pot.
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 2, 2012
8:22 AM

Post #9107059

Ever step into deep mud? It creates a vacuum making it harder to pull out your foot. The same will apply to a hosta in a pot with it being really wet. It also makes the potting mix expand.

Using a hose to wash out the potting mix will be the only way to get the plant out without damaging too many roots or the pot.
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
8:23 AM

Post #9107062

Not yet- I tried in the fall, but I will give it another go . The pot was inexpensive but I'd rather not lose it. I wonder how big Nancy is supposed to get, anyway.
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
8:25 AM

Post #9107063

Yeah, I thought of that too, Frank. I really don't think Nancy will mind that, either. I bought Nancy and Jaz at the same time because I couldn't decide. Nancy seems to be doing much better than Jaz.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 2, 2012
8:58 AM

Post #9107110

Those are all great ideas.
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 2, 2012
9:37 AM

Post #9107166

Your Nancy is a beauty, Noreaster and the brown pot really sets it off nicely. I like mine too, lovely yellow pretty well all season and not touched by slugs at all because the leaves have such thick substance. I bought Paisley Print and Dancing Queen last year. Jaz is on my wish list.
Noreaster, how deep is that pot. I bought a flexible blade from Lee Valley last year. It's used to cut plants loose from nursery pots. I don't think this one is long enough but perhaps you could find something similar at a hardware store.

Isn't it interesting ViolaAnn, I bought N for my friend Nancy three years ago too and at the time I liked it so much that a bought a second one for myself. I had actually been looking for H. "My Friend Nancy' at the time. I find N to be superior.

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
10:57 AM

Post #9107279

I agree with FranknJim - soak the pot in water, then use the hose to wash out enough dirt to allow you to pull Nancy out without destroying the roots. In my experience, hosta plants do even better when their roots are taken out of the soil and re-planted in new dirt.

Last Saturday I replanted my border of "Francee" because they had grown too close to the row of "Honey Bell" behind them. The soil in this area is very loose, so as I dug each plant, the roots lost most of the dirt ball I'd dug. I replanted them a foot away, splaying out the roots and watering them well after transplanting. They didn't skip a beat.

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LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9107285

"Blue Umbrellas" in my 'giants' garden.

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Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 2, 2012
1:13 PM

Post #9107426

Lovely! I like the big ones- wish I could have more than I do. I picked up Blue Umbrellas a few years ago locally...but I really don't have room for it! I'm just in denial.

Good news on Nancy- I tugged on the wire basket and it looks like it will lift out now. I guess when I tried to pull it out it had already frozen, which made it hard. I was a real slacker at the end of last year, getting the garden properly put to bed. I also couldn't get Key West out of it's hypertufa planter and that one suffered- it's all stunted this year. Not sure why some can tolerate being left out in exposed pots better than others.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

May 2, 2012
3:31 PM

Post #9107571

here is one of my Alex Summers

I potted it up as it outgrew it's spot... have to find a new home for it this fall.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 2, 2012
5:39 PM

Post #9107734

tcs -There's a spot in my garden. Just kidding as I live in Canada.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

May 2, 2012
6:43 PM

Post #9107833

LOL... i was thinking someone would offer that perfect spot.

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 3, 2012
4:29 AM

Post #9108148

The Alex Summers is beautiful - I'm sure there's a spot in MY garden for such a lovely hosta!

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ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2012
7:39 AM

Post #9108397

I took pics yesterday. MOST have not yet leafed out, fortunately, as some which have look like frozen lettuce. Might be able to post a few later - they are on my other computer.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 3, 2012
7:46 AM

Post #9108415

My hosta gardens are new.First one 2 years old
Slope, just finished planting weenies
Third garden is ready and plants will be here later this month.
Everyones displays are so helpful.
Rose1656
Oquawka, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2012
4:14 PM

Post #9109173

Alliteration, Lakeside Love Affaire and Whoopee!

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 3, 2012
4:31 PM

Post #9109190

Those are lovelies, Rose. I have only one hosta that has completely leafed out - 'Coconut Custard', a mini. My 5b garden is way behind. 'Hideout' and 'Crumb Cake' are just starting to leaf out. Rose is in zone 5a and I'm in zone 5b. Her hostas are way ahead of mine.

I posted pictures of 'Hideout' and 'Coconut Custard' but only this picture shows up. Strange! I will try again.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 3, 2012
4:40 PM

Post #9109197

Your not missing much re 'Coconut Custard' and 'Hideout' but i've never posted multiple pics before.

I screwed up and posted 'Cracker crumbs a second time. Anyway, now i know I can post multiple pictures. "Hideout' is the one that's missing.

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virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 3, 2012
4:53 PM

Post #9109207

Rose, I just got a 'Lakeside Love Affair' from BentleyGardens, I see I have a lot to look forward to, yours is beautiful. :)
Rose1656
Oquawka, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2012
5:16 PM

Post #9109244

Irawon,

Your garden is not far behind...mine is way ahead! Mine are all leafed out. Not as much frost damage as I expected!

Virginiarose,

I've had L. Love Affaire for 4 years and it's a pretty one! I had to move it this year because it was under a pine tree that dripped sap on it and made it look terrible! Darn the luck...it kinda fell apart so now I have 4 plants!

Rose
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 3, 2012
5:21 PM

Post #9109256

I found out that diluted ammonia that I use to kill slugs also cleans off pine sap. My Tokudama Flavocircinalis sits under a pine and I hate walking by and seeing that sap. Looks like its gonna be a great year for TF, but it's a long way from leafing out. It's been pretty cool, which has really slowed thngs down.
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 3, 2012
5:55 PM

Post #9109300

Noreaster thanks for the tip. My spruce trees drip sap on my hostas too. Take a gander over to the heuchera forum . i posted those promised pics.
Rose1656
Oquawka, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 3, 2012
6:02 PM

Post #9109313

Noreaster,

Is that 10:1 mix? I may have to try it on some others.

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 4, 2012
10:22 AM

Post #9110213

I replaced an oak leaf hydrangea (deceased (:-(() with new (to me) varieties of hosts - "Sum of All" and "Night before Christmas" - Let's hope they like the location - a shady berm covered with "Golden Tiara", "Sun Power", "Wide Brim", "Guacamole" and others (blue varieties).

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Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 4, 2012
3:34 PM

Post #9110548

Rose, yes, ten to one or fifteen to one is what I use on slugs, and that's what I squirt on the sap.

I don't know what I'm gonna do this year about the slugs. You guys may recall that I use pieces of lettuce in the garden which attracts the slugs, and then I go out and kill them with the ammonia spray- they are easy to find because they congregate around the lettuce. Well, our new puppy Dublin has decided that lettuce is FABULOUS, and he keeps going into my beds and stealing it. I feel like I can't spray ammonia because I don't want him to get sick if he eats it. I could just feed the slugs lettuce so that they don't eat my hosta but the population will get out of control, AND I have to get this bad dog to stop stealing it in the first place. He is driving me crazy!!!!
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 4, 2012
5:56 PM

Post #9110800

Noreaster I'm dousing my hostas with the ammonia bath as they emerge. Earlier I sprayed the pips with the ammonia solution but that is not good enough. You have to soak the earth with the solution otherwise it doesn't contact the slug eggs in the root system. I don't know whether you spray or douse early in the season. I plan to use diatomecious earth once the hostas have unfurled. I will apply it around foundation, tree trunks, tree roots, around anywhere slugs and earwigs might lurk and propogate. I've also noticed that I have a snail population in my garden beds. The snails are teeny. I wish I knew the life cycle of these critters in my zone 5b garden. It would make the eradication of these pests easier.
kiseta
Augusta, GA
(Zone 8a)

May 5, 2012
3:01 PM

Post #9111721

My orange marmalade is doing so much better then last year. It has its good orangy color and it is very large, I hope the rest of them are just as good looking. My Guacamolie is nice too. Etelka

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Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 5, 2012
3:20 PM

Post #9111749

Very nice, kiseta!

Irawon, every year I tell myself I'll do the slug drench, but I never seem to get around to it. I usually hunt them in the evening or morning, or during a rainy day, using the lettuce as bait, and then I spray them directly with the diluted ammonia.


kiseta
Augusta, GA
(Zone 8a)

May 5, 2012
3:35 PM

Post #9111764

I have been watering my clems and used a lots of pine straw around them. Today when I lifted up the straw, it was full of slugs, so I used my spray of amonia water and murphies oil. It is maybey a overkill, but I wanted them gone.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 5, 2012
3:50 PM

Post #9111775

kiseta, Love your garden, great hosta's!

If all the slugs are under the straw, just sprinkle some salt on them and that will kill them.

susan
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 5, 2012
3:58 PM

Post #9111782

I planted my first clematis last year and was disgusted to find that the slugs like the blooms. They just have to ruin everything!
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 5, 2012
4:51 PM

Post #9111848

I noticed last year that the early amonnia drench cut down on the slug population, so this year I am being very diligent. I have a few hostas left to treat as I have to replenish my ammonia stock. Most of my hostas are starting to emerge but not many have unfurled. I drenched my ferns with evergreen fertilizer today. Tomorrow I'm treating my garden beds with corn gluten meal and then I can start with the creative stuff...dividing perennials , moving things around. I have a lot of seedlings of cushion euphorbia, Tradescantia, summer plox, sedum etc in my gardens to dig up and pot. That's the part of gardening that I enjoy most. What a glorious day today was and tomorrow it will be the same. Yeh God.

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

May 5, 2012
5:03 PM

Post #9111868

I believe in the slug drench too. Last year I didn't really get it done and then it was a wet year too. Had more than ever. This year, I've got half the garden done. I've found my Rubbermaid bucket holds about 10 litres to the top. The ammonia bottle is almost two litres. So I put 3 bottles of ammonia in a large garbage pail and add 6 buckets of water. Works quite well and covered about half of my garden. Tomorrow maybe, but it might not get time until Monday as there's a big bell concert tomorrow. (Irene - it's at 7 pm at Rideau Park United - handbell teams from 4 churches in a massed concert. Come hear us. Free admission, but a free-will offering0.

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 6, 2012
9:59 AM

Post #9112631

This is HOSTA TOKUDAMA FLAVOCIRCINALIS. I added four of these to my 'giants' garden last spring.

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virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2012
2:53 PM

Post #9112911

I am a little confused or missing the point. :( Does the slug drench kill slugs (big) or just eggs.

TOKUDAMA FLAVOCIRCINALIS, I was thinking about getting one of these, hummmm How big does it actually get, you are calling it a giant? Do the slugs bother it?
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 6, 2012
3:09 PM

Post #9112938

I see conflicting things about the size of Tokudama F, though I think it's supposed to be a smaller version of .frances Wiliams (and does not desiccate at the edges as FW often does). It's one of the few in my garden that is virtually ignored by the slugs. LOVE it. Mine has some big fat eyes this year so I'm getting a tad worried about the size.

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 6, 2012
3:36 PM

Post #9112965

I bought 'Tokudama Flavorcinalis' because it was described as 'one of the largest' - which it has not proved to be in my garden, so far. Mine are only one year old, however, so I'll withhold judgement until it's got a couple seasons on it. My "Jurassic Park' has taken three years to attain decent size and the one-year old 'Empress Wu' is still quite small. My 'giants' garden has several large specimen, so I hope to keep everything else in the 'very large' category to have balance and perspective.
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 6, 2012
3:57 PM

Post #9112981

I bought two Tokudama Fs in 2006...one is about 3' wide, I guess, and the other is about 10" smaller. Both are sort of squatty, so they are good in front of taller hosta. Here is the bigger of mine in front of Queen of the Seas

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LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 6, 2012
4:21 PM

Post #9112992

Looks gorgeous, Noreaster! The Queen of the Seas is nice too! What a beautiful setting.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 7, 2012
2:35 AM

Post #9113531

Noreaster, are you thinking about 'Olive bailey langdon', I heard that was a sub for FW that does not burn.

Love the Tokudama Flavorcinalis! Looks good in front of Queen of the Seas also, I am definitely getting this Hosta, If the slugs ignore it, I'm happy.
They say it gets about four feet wide.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

May 7, 2012
2:39 AM

Post #9113538

I must be lucky not to have slugs. I see 1 or 2 once in a while.

Noreaster,

Love your garden set up!! How big is your yard?

Bellie
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 7, 2012
5:18 AM

Post #9113645

You ARE lucky if you don't have to deal with slugs! My garden is really pretty small...I dont know the actual dimension of the yard- I'll try to get that.

Virginiarose, yes, I think OBL is the actual substitution recommended for Frances Williams. But I've seen Tokudama F described as "looking like a smaller FW"

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 7, 2012
6:58 AM

Post #9113787

That is great to know because I really do want one, and my OBL is just a plug from last year. Also I did get a FW from Hallson's for 8.50 and it was a pretty big plant, just gotta find it. :(
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 7, 2012
8:56 AM

Post #9113960

Beautiful T. Flavocircinalis, Noreaster. Mine is very slow growing. I understand that 'Linda Sue' is a sport of 'Frances Williams' and is supposedly not prone to burn. I relocated one of my 3 FW because of dessication burn to a location where its protected from the wind. That seems to have done the trick.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 7, 2012
10:18 AM

Post #9114057

So the browning is from the wind? I was wondering why everyone say's it's the sun because it is supposed to be sun tolerant. Seems like everyone says something different. I'm very glad you found the answer, how confusing!

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 7, 2012
1:37 PM

Post #9114307

"Bressingham Blue"

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Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 7, 2012
3:49 PM

Post #9114515

Pretty!

As for FW and the desiccation, I read all kinds of stuff. I don't think anyone truly knows definitively why it happens. I had mine in full shade, and it desiccated. I know a lady with some beautiful FWs right out by her driveway in full sun and hers did not desiccate. So in my humble, non expert opinion, it's not sun that causes it.

Wind makes more sense to me, too. Parhelion gets a little desiccation for me and that one usually takes a beating on a windy day with those big leaves.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2012
1:45 AM

Post #9115144

Thank you, its good to finally hear something that makes since. I did get a good deal on a four year plant at Hallsons and planted it out of the wind.


"Bressingham Blue" is beautiful. :)
hostages
Wyoming, MN

May 8, 2012
7:08 AM

Post #9115412

Wish I could post pics. I have a large Alvatine Taylor, blue with yellow border, that takes quite a lot of sun in my garden without burning. This year it has a number of OP blue seedlings surrounding it.

Gary

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 8, 2012
7:32 AM

Post #9115462

I found it online, Gary, and it's a beauty. How large is it?
hostages
Wyoming, MN

May 8, 2012
7:41 AM

Post #9115473

Mine is 24 to 28" tall and 40" in diameter when leafed out. It uis in a favored spot which I can see from my kitchen window.

Gary

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 8, 2012
11:24 AM

Post #9115888

"Sun Power" and "Golden Tiara" in my shade garden today.

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irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 8, 2012
3:13 PM

Post #9116124

Gary, Is your AT protected from the wind?

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 8, 2012
3:25 PM

Post #9116144

Thanks for the information Gary, I never heard of AT, but I looked it up and it is lovely. :)
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 8, 2012
5:43 PM

Post #9116328

I got my Alvatine Taylor in late 2009. From the one I saw on GW, these become a giant. I agree with what the HL says about this having an average to slow growth rate.

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hostages
Wyoming, MN

May 8, 2012
7:34 PM

Post #9116522

Irawon yes it is protected on three sides. It is near a large rock.

Gary
Rose1656
Oquawka, IL
(Zone 5a)

May 10, 2012
6:38 AM

Post #9118319

I just got Alvatine Taylor from NGP. FranknJim posted a really nice picture of his last year, and it immediately went on my 2012 list!

Rose
hostages
Wyoming, MN

May 10, 2012
6:47 AM

Post #9118336

Rose
She is a beauty. You will enjoy her

Gary

LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 10, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9118627

I planted this Frances Williams 8-9 years ago and I've been disappointed by the burn or dessication on he leaves. Frankly, I thought it was due to my neglect as a gardener, so each year I'd vow to take better care of it, but still seem to have the same outcome.

I took this photo today, and you can see the leaf burn has begun already (and some slug damage too!). I have not used the ammonia solution - I usually put down Corey's in the spring and again in July - maybe I didn't get enough down this spring! In this location, I don't believe there is any sort of wind issue, so all I can think is the one hour (or so) of sun it gets each day, or not enough water in the bed, may be the cause. I'd like to move it somewhere, but I'm not sure I have a more favorable location.

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Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 10, 2012
3:46 PM

Post #9118956

Well, I'd cut yourself some slack, because I think it looks like that for many if not most gardeners!

Here is a shot today of my three biggest- Regal Splendor, Elegans, and Parhelion
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 10, 2012
3:49 PM

Post #9118957

oops, forgot the pic

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virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2012
5:54 PM

Post #9119132

Beautiful Noreaster!
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 12, 2012
7:31 PM

Post #9121499

thank. virginiarose.

Here is Liberty from today...

and Maui Buttercups in front of Thunderbolt. MB looks great this year and Thunderbolt added four more eyes.

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virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 13, 2012
3:50 AM

Post #9121748

Thunderbolt does well for you and four more eyes is impressive! I also love Maui Buttercups, I think I would like another one of those. I got a second 'June' this year and each is different so I don't feel like I have duplicate hosta's, just adding as many good performers as possible. Also it is slug resistant like the buttercups and I really like that. Most of the nurseries don't carry the Thunderbolt because it grows so slow, I will look around some more.
Noreaster
Maine
United States
(Zone 5b)

May 16, 2012
5:31 AM

Post #9125686

Pic from this morning of Thunderbolt. I think the leaves are even bigger this year

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LeawoodGardener

LeawoodGardener
Leawood, KS
(Zone 5b)

May 16, 2012
6:45 AM

Post #9125784

Gorgeous! I hope my tiny 'Thunderbolt' starts grow like that.

virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 16, 2012
4:50 PM

Post #9126497

Beautiful Thunderbolt. :) I really want one now!!
irawon
Ottawa
Canada

May 22, 2012
2:30 PM

Post #9133908

My camera doesn't do the colour of 'Ripple Effect' justice. I would call it delicious. However, I can't stop wishing to turn it around to give it a more balanced form. I'm hoping that will come with age

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virginiarose

virginiarose
Southeast, VA
(Zone 8a)

May 22, 2012
4:41 PM

Post #9134099

Irawon, Love that Ripple Effect, it is beautiful just the way it is! Has a lot of personality. Kinda reminds me of Golden Meadows, all hay wire lookin. :)

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