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well what a month March turned into for us in this household. Phone line outages, road closures due to landslides from so much rain, medical issues, no work for hubby etc etc... good bye March!
Well an update on what's been going on in the broms. As most of you know, we had some rot issues, that upset my apple cart and although it's something all growers face from time to time, I took it pretty hard as buying broms is not easy in this house, and when we do get them, we try to do our best to look after them well.
Anyway we got over that hurdle, accepted the loss of several more expensive broms and with the help of a few brom friends we managed to buy most of them as pups again.
Well devastation struck on Friday last week when hubby came in and announced that my beloved most expensive vriesea had rot! (bearing in mind this plant cost a few hundred dollars and was a special present to ourselves at a time when we had sold something and had that bit of extra cash to spoil ourselves.) The prices for pups have come down now days that I have seen on ebay and the like, but this was brought as a fairly mature plant that should flower this year with a bit of luck.
I was mortified and felt like just selling the lot. We have spent so much money on getting the brom house all done, getting some nice broms into the collection and it all just felt like too much. The rest of the day and next day got worse... more broms were dragged out and tipped on their sides all suffering what looked to be burns or rot, yet they had all been in the brom house under 75% beige and a 75% green topper as well, so sun burn was impossible.
It was a heart breaking sight to see so many of our more expensive broms laying on their sides and wondering what the hell had happened to them all and why. And the fact that NONE anywhere else in the yard were affected, only ones in the brom house. You start to analyse everything... trying to work out a cause.
A phone call from a grower a couple of hours away from us started to shed some light on what it could be... and then another phone call from Jack helped confirmed and define what had happened and how to hopefully try and save most of them. What a knowledgeable man Jack is, amazing to talk too, you guys down south are lucky to be able to see him in person, I would love to get down that way to meet him one day.
The long and short of the situation we all think... is that basically they got too dry. What a simple stupid dumb mistake.
We had so much rain up here, and that whole time we were worrying we'd end up with rot in them. Then almost overnight the rain stopped and it came out hot again. We naturally thought a day or two of not watering would be a good thing, you know to let them dry out a bit as they had been so drenched... but alas... that was our mistake.
We now know, that they adjust themselves very quickly to that extra water, and yes if it goes on too long then rot is a very definite possibility... but that when the water stops so abruptly... they stress and don't cope. So we needed to keep watering as soon as the rain stopped, especially for the vrieseas. And then we could of started to stretch the watering out to get them back use to not so much frequent water.
So we have a lot of damaged broms, Neo's and Vrieseas, but more so the Vrieseas. We have taken Jack's advice on what to do with them now, and can only hope and pray they either recover or give pups. The damage presents itself as burn, much like sunburn, but infact it's from dehydration, so the fact that in some cases, like the expensive one, it's in and around the cup, it may still cause cup rot and we might still lose it. But we can only try and see what happens.
so for all you experienced growers, you probably know all of this and are shaking your heads, saying what a silly novice mistake to make, well we know now. And for all you fellow novice growers out there... don't make the same mistake we just made... it's heart breaking and could well be a very expensive mistake to make.
so right now the best outcome we can hope for is a lot of nice broms growing out some very ugly burnt leaves... but continuing to grow to maturity... worst case scenario will be throwing the rotted out mess in the bin. So we are crossing our fingers, baby'ing them and just hoping they pull through. Like I have said a few times now... hurry up and bugger off summer... bring on winter for us Northerners cause I am so over all the trials our summer weather has given us with the broms... talk about landing in the deep end!
Ok so that's what's been going on for me, and I am sorry I was absent most of last month, hopefully I will be able to keep up and follow along this month.
Hi everyone. I'm late today as I've had computer problems and Barry has finally got it fixed (we hope, anyway).
I am very pleased I got the Vr. Saundersii, as just everyone has had good things to say about it. Wendy, I am so glad the sales went well and Jen was there to help out. I am so happy with my haul, I really am.
Shirley, those are lovely plants. I have Jewellery Shop too, two plants, and they are slightly different to each other. That's what I love about broms is that they can look so different from one to the next. Nev has explained why.
Nev, those pics are, as always, gorgeous. Thanks for the thumbs up on Saundersii. It is a very nicely shaped little plant, which I like.
Tash, I do so very much feel for you. You have had a bad run with your plants. Also a few of them would have been new, coming from different places and conditions, and into such extreme weather conditions. I sure hope winter is a time of adjustment and recovery for them.
Colleen, does that one (forgot the name - in the previous thread) grow very large? Would love to see another pic when it has fully coloured up.
I need to get my brom areas sorted more quickly. They would be OK for winter, except I am now housing another car in the carport where the broms were taking up residence during the wet. So there are 3 cars in the yard now, all Barry's, and I can't drive any of them (except his main one when I need to duck up the shop).
Gee Tash such a shame about your broms, really easy mistake to make...we have just been through a bit of rain 558mm in 5 days so I did exactly the same as you, allowed my plants to dry out a bit before watering them again, hope most make a complete recovery.
What part of FNQ are you?
I have a friend on the Island who is a manic and I mean manic, brom collector, I'll mention the water factor to her if it isn't too late...
welcome back Tash, glad you are now feeling better. Really sorry to hear that you lost so many of your lovely broms but it's good to hear that you now know what is happening to them and how to fix the problem. I do hope most of them recover eventually. I know how disappointed I would be if I lost any one of my babies and absolutely devastated if I lost quite a few of them. You’ve had a tough month but I am sure the rest of the year will be much better for you … good luck and thanks again for your help with FB though I haven’t really spent any time there as we have so much going on here too.
Nev, I would love some of your vriesea saundersii seedlings if you still have some to spare. I will D-mail you my postal address. I am sure you are right about the name of the neo ‘Painted Delight’ … can I blame it on the late hour and a poor memory.
Well, that’s it for me tonight, catch up with everyone tomorrow. Pics are (hopefully) Aussie Dream and Meyendorfii Medallion
Wow! A new month already; I’d forgotten all about it until Tash “popped out of the woodwork” to start a new page for us, thanks Tash.
Colleen – I’ll get some of those saundersii seedlings in the mail to you after the Easter weekend. Even though they are “selfed” (for those of you not into hybridizing, this simple means the mother plant was fertilised with its own pollen) and usually with species, the seedlings are all the same as the mother plant, but sometimes there can be one or two that’s a little different, either better or worse shape/markings than the mother, so hopefully you or some of the others who want some, may be the lucky ones.
Your Neo. Thunderbird x Avalon looks like it still has a bit of growing and colouring up to do yet so it will be interesting to see what it turns out like; and as I say, getting seedlings is like getting a lottery ticket; you never know what you will get.
Who are the “ankle biters” in your pic. are they grand children? Whoever they are they look ready to demolish that birthday cake and just for the record whose birthday cake is it?
Tash – Gee it’s great to see you back here again and I’m sure we’re all pleased to see you. What’s the name of that beautifully shaped Neo. you posted in the first post of the month? It’s a “little ripper”.
You’ve had a pretty rough time with the rot problem since moving into your new shade house, but hopefully you have the cause now sorted out and can take some remedial steps to rectify the problem. What you have just gone through just goes to show how willing most fellow brom growers are to try and help a mate in distress. I’ve been following your “saga” on face book and the amount of suggestions and possible causes and remedies put forward by other growers was enough to write a book about, it was “mind boggling”.
Hopefully things will now improve with the advice from the “Old Master” (I’d better drop the “old” or I’ll be getting “told”) but I do very much respect him and the knowledge he so freely shares with everyone. Although I’ve never seen him in person, and don’t expect I ever will now, as travel is out of the question for me, but I know he is only a phone call away and is there to offer any advice on a problem I might have. I am of course referring to Jack Koning of Port Macquarie, a hybridizer of world note and a very knowledgeable man who freely shares his advice to anyone willing to listen.
I think I may have said to you Tash that the problem is probably something that’s pretty simple and is looking us in the face and we can’t see it, but I know I certainly never thought about that; but then we often miss the obvious while looking “outside the square”.
I once lost a batch of about twelve or so Ae Lueddemanniana seedlings to rot. The centre leaves were all colouring up this beautiful red colour and I thought I’d cracked some champions in one of my very first batch of seedlings, but my excitement soon turned to bitter disappointment when the centres started to pull out. It was following a heat wave we had down here one New Year’s Day and on first appearances it seemed like the water in the cups had got so hot it had cooked the tender centre leaves and caused rot, as the plants affected were all hanging up near the roof. However it was later revealed when looking at all of the other plants, that small slugs had sheltered during the day time in the centre of every plant (they hadn’t damaged them, it was just somewhere they were sheltering as they do during the day) but the water in the cups of the highest plants had got so hot that it killed the slugs which in turn started to rot, this of course started the cup rotting as well. So that’s the other side of the coin where the obvious is not always necessarily the cause of the problem and you do need to look outside of the square as well. (Sorry Tash I forgot to mention that one to you when we were trying to work out the cause of your problem; probably because it left such a bitter taste in my mouth I’d consequently wiped it out of my memory bank)
I’ll post a pic of what a group of these seedlings actually looked like and you will understand my initial excitement with the colour and then my disappointment when I realised it was rot.
On a final note Tash, don’t forget that brom’s are probably the most resilient plants of all and if it’s possible to reproduce themselves they’ll find a way if at all possible. Never give up and “bin” a supposedly dead brom until you are certain they are unsalvageable as I’ve had them put up pups just from a bit of dead looking rhizome, admittedly the pup was very undersized but I managed to eventually build up a plant from that little “runt”.
MyaC – I haven’t seen you here before, so a big welcome to our friendly little group and I hope you continue to stay with us and share some of your Magnetic Island knowledge, experience and pictures with us. It’s amazing what we all pick up just by sharing our experiences with each other.
I must correct you though when you say your friend is a maniac brom collector, brom growers aren’t maniac’s they just come in varying degrees of bromeliaditis ranging from acute to chronic and it seems that she just hasn’t been formally diagnosed yes. If the acute stage isn’t nipped in the bud, it very quickly turns into the incurable chronic stage where we can only just treat the symptoms by continually buying/swapping more brom’s and following the basic rule of all brom growers, “there’s always room for ne more”
Shirley – I’ll send you a few saundersii seedlings s well after Easter; and for anyone who missed my offer in the previous month’s post, I have a surplus of Vriesea saundersii seedlings about 2” high and will send a few to anyone who wants them for the cost of postage (while stocks last). Just send me your postal details and we’ll go from there.
They’re two very nice examples of two very popular hybrids, both of which are very variable. I think from memory there are about 28 registered different Aussie Dream hybrids from that grex and there are quite a few from the Meyendorffii grex as well, with some being plain colours, some variegated and with the added bonus there is also a miniature clone as well (Meyendorffii Minor). These are two great hybrids for a collection as there are so many variations you could build a good collection around just these two hybrids alone. I have a few different ones myself and will include a few pic’s as well.
That’s it for today and I’ll finish with a mix of pic’s starting with the disappointing collection of what I thought were some new rare hybrids of Ae Lueddemanniana; the plants on the left with the nice red leaves were unfortunately the ones with the rot. Next there are four different clones of Neo. Meyendorffii. The first one is Neo Meyendorffii 'albo marginata', next is Neo. Meyendorffii 'Red Striata, next is Neo Meyendorffii 'Variegata' (Red Form, and finally Neo. Meyendorffii Variegata II.
As I can only post five pic's at a time, I'll post some of the Meyendorffii 'Minor' grex tomorrow.
Quoting:MyaC – I haven’t seen you here before, so a big welcome to our friendly little group and I hope you continue to stay with us and share some of your Magnetic Island knowledge, experience and pictures with us. It’s amazing what we all pick up just by sharing our experiences with each other.
Always read the brom thread, love them to bits however they don't do well in my little piece of paradise cause the wallabies eat them or they nibble the leaves to bits and make them look ragged and unloved.
I started collecting when a very generous brom lady LeisaD (a bit before you were on here Nev) sent me a parcel full of different varieties. I naively placed them out into the garden, in various locations and the next morning found them all chewed to bits, really heartbreaking . I packed them all up and gave them to a friend of mine that lives more in the built up area of the Island and doesn't have the wallaby problem I have,they are thriving there.
I guess If I had a brom house it would be no problem but I really enjoy to have my plants out in the open and in the ground so have elected not to have one put up...as I mentioned my friend who collects broms has a huge orchid- brom house and she has some real beauties in there.
I'll take my camera one day and take some pictures. She acquired a lot of her specimens from an elderly collector in Townsville.
We have had another busy day and have two of our nine grandkids staying over tonight. Love having them but gee it’s great when they go off to bed and calm and tranquility return. Hopefully their mum will pick them up reasonably early tomorrow so we can get a bit done for a change.
Thanks Nev, looking forward to receiving those vriesea seedlings … do they need a special mix while so young and are they a slow growing brom.
Anyway, think I’ll call it a night … pic is ‘old love letters’ another of Wendy’s beauties
Well the sun is shining and I woke up this morning to the beautiful sound of Magpies warbling; wow it’s great to be Australian!
MyaC – Well and here’s me thinking you were a newbie, oh well, foot in the mouth again; that’s nothing unusual for me. The last I heard of Sue was that they were planning a trip around Australia. I don’t know if she’s left yet or maybe she’s just “lurking” on the sidelines.
Shirley – The Vriesea saundersii seedlings do seem to be a bit slower growing than Neo’s, Aechmeas and Bill’s etc., but they are pretty tough and have been shade house grown beneath 75% shade cloth so should be hardened off and not “touchy” like ones grown in glass houses under controlled conditions.
As for a potting mix, I would just use equal parts of fine bark and Coco Peat down here in Shellharbour but up where you are I would suggest you speak to some local growers for advice for a suitable mix for your area.
I’m sure you’ll be most impressed with Neo. ‘Old Love Letters’ when it colours up as it’s a beautifully coloured Neo when grown in adequate light.
I’ll finish again with a few pic’s, firstly a group of ten plants I was getting ready to take to the Bromeliad Society Sales Table on Saturday, that is until a friend bought the lot! The second pic.is Neo Mini Meyendorfii variegata, 3rd is Neo Mini Meyendorfii, 4th is quite a large 'radial red' called Neo. 'Nina Rehak' and pic five is Neo 'Nobel Descent Too'.
Hi everyone. It's warm here again, clear skies and crisp mornings and warms up during the day. Lovely camping weather for those who are going at Easter time. My boys will be going the next weekend with their Uncle John. Motorbike riding and camping. Gran gets to stay home and veg out for a couple of days. yippee. Shirley you certainly got some lovely broms from Wendy's sale. Bet you can't wait to get your SH done so that you can display all your lovelies. Nev was just out checking the seedlings and I have one, yes only one, Desert Rose up. Hopefully there will be others but I'll be happy if I can get one up to flowering size anyway. Nev love the red and yellow Meyendorfii red striata. That is a lovely plant. Have you any pups of that one or mature plant? Must get these kids ready for school. Have a great day everyone. Colleen
Nev, no wonder your friend bought the lot. What a bundle of beaty there. I love the ones in your previous post as well, but Neo. Meyendorffii 'Red Striata' really stands out for me with its creamy gold backing and red stripes.
Shirley, I find wandering through Wendy's a little overwhelming. I want everything I see, but have to consider size, amount of space it would take, etc. I usually leave suffering brom intoxication...mmmmmmmmmm...what a way to go!
MyaC, lovely to see you joining in. Most times I don't have a lot to show, but sometimes I have a lot to say :). Plus I love the pics posted, oh, I love the pics. And the group is so friendly. Nev is so helpful. Its part of my morning routine, coming in to see what's new.
Hi Colleen. Have a lovely day. I guess its getting cooler there now.
Nev, my racinaea fraseri pups are now at least 2 years old, but showing no signs of spiking at all. The original plant was a seedling, and it was either 12 or 15 years before it flowered. Then it got its first pup, which I left attached. The mother died and the pup flowered in 2 years. And that has been the procedure since, until now. Last time the mother pupped, I removed the pup, and she had another one which I also removed. She then died. But the pups, though quite large and mature, are showing no signs of flowering at all. Seems this is a long time to be waiting for the plant to propagate. The pup doesn't come until the mother flowers, and the seedlings take so long to mature. Is this normal for this plant?
An old photo of racinaea fraseri I've shown before, but just putting it in as a reminder.
Good morning everyone and it certainly is a beautiful morning here in Brissie.
Colleen, I'm with you. My males are off riding trailbikes for Easter so I get 4 glorious days to myself just poking around in the yard. Is that a Datura in your photo? It's gorgeous. I got one from Sue and can't wait for it to flower. Speaking of Sue, she hasn't left for her trip yet but has been having a lot of trouble with DG cutting out on her. Frustrating when she's halfway through writing or reading a post so she's doing most of her chatting on Facebook. MyaC, she made a lovely memorial garden with Leisa's broms and it was great walking around it when I visited Sue a few weeks ago. Good to see you in the group. I've been a bit quiet for a while too. Sometimes it's nice just to read when you haven't got the energy to write.
Karen it was good to catch up with you at Wendy's. I had a great time there meeting lots of nice brom people and Wendy and Johnny even let me sell of my own pups as well so that was a bonus. I'm off today to spend the money on hangers and squat pots.There were so many beautiful broms there that I wanted to take half of them home with me but I always feel like that when I visit their place. There's always something new.
Shirley, from your photos it certainly looks like you got some good buys. Sorry I didn't get to meet you yet but I'm sure we'll catch up at Wendy's sometime. Good luck with your shadehouse. As a last resort you can always fall off a ladder and wreck your knee like I did and Wendy and Johnny will come and finish it for you. They did a much neater job than I could ever have done.
Tash, did you break a mirror and spill a ton of salt? What a horrible month you've had. Thank goodness your brom problems are getting sorted out. It always seems to be the expensive ones that have the problems. It's interesting that it's a water problem. Jack told me that Vrieseas do better in winter if you keep them well watered around the roots. I've told people and most look at me skeptically because most growers cut down on the water in the cooler months. Last winter I followed his advice and of course Jack was right. My Vrieseas handled the cold much better, no dead or brown bottom leaves or tips. Apparently keeping the roots moist reduces the stress on them. Sorry I've taken so long to post your broms from Nev. Work has been flat out and I haven't even had time to look at the garden but I'm on holidays now. Was going to post your broms yesterday but didn't want to take the chance of them getting caught in the post over Easter so I'll post them next Tuesday. They are looking good and hopefully they'll cheer you up a bit, lovely teeth. Speaking of Jack, I had to have a chuckle on my recent brom crawl. Visited Jack and Tamera on Wed and then went to Richard Harper's on Thursday. Was trying to tell Richard what I bought at Jack's but couldn't remember. Richard told me exactly what I'd bought, that I only had a small space, was fussy and what sort I was looking for. Apparently he and Tamera had been talking. What a great network!
Nev I can see why your friend bought all your broms. What a top mix with all the colours and patterns. Sue had a similar experience to your 'pink' seedlings. She had a Vr Nova that had gone the loveliest shade of pink. She was thrilled until the middle fell out. It's so disheartening when they die for no obvious reason. I try to ignore my fancy ones and shove them in the middle of all the others because I'm convinced that they become divas if you fuss over them and die just to spite you. Also the grasshoppers know which ones to target.
Now that I've written War and Peace I'll leave you with a few flowering photos. Haven't tried this multiphoto thing yet so fingers crossed. Happy gardening everyone. Jen
1. Aechmea Black Ice 2. Guzmania Luna 3. Aechmea Fantasy 4. Aechmea Aztec Gold 5. Canistrum triangulare
The photos wouldn't load all at once. Maybe too big so I'll post the saga and try the photos separately.
wow, it's not taking much to get behind in here, lol, great to see the forum so active.
Thanks for the best wishes about of broms and the trouble we are having, it has been a big learning curve that’s for sure and I thought I had most of it under control, then you get a curve ball. Just shows how we all face different challenges in different climates, that’s for sure.
Hi MyaC, nice to hear from someone who doesn’t usually speak up. I’m up north of Cairns, you live in a wonderful spot, Maggie is a nice island, only been there once and it was a long time ago. What a bugger about the Wallabies, maybe you might be able to have a few hanging pots of broms here and there so they can’t get at them.
Yeah Nev I’m back, I was going to pop in at the end of last months thread…. But it was seriously too much to catch up on… so I cheated by waiting for a new month, lol.
Yeah this issue with the broms is a totally different issue to the cup rot we had, but…. Some of them may still end up with cup rot as a result of the dehydration burns though. I gave them a spray over yesterday afternoon with seasol too, in the hope that it will help too. Anything is worth a go right now and I know seasol is great for stressed plants, so I just hope it all works to help them out.
I love everyone photos, gee there is just so many nice broms!
Jen nice to see you floating around too, oh and no drama about the broms, you’ll have to let me know what the postage is and I’ll send it through to you, no rush at all. Yeah Jack is awesome to talk too, and he also told me about keeping Vrieseas wet in cold weather, not that he was meaning for up here, but yes for down south. That a they can handle cold and dry, but can't handle it together at the same time, so in extreme cold, you must keep the roots well wet. The same for up here... they can handle hot, and they can handle dry... but again, not at the same time, so when it's really hot, they must be wet. The moisture in both cases stops the cells in the leaves from collapsing and sustaining burns, cold burns, heat burns, dehydration burns. He has so much knowledge! I wish I could of recorded the call just to make sure I didn't miss a word he said.
Yeah I was once told that I must not of run over a chinaman but shot a whole village in a past life. Seems I’m not someone who has endless amounts of good luck, ppfftttt. LOL
oh and Nev that brom I put up is Neo On Target.
Well I don't have anything of interest to put up in the way of photos, so I'll leave it to you guys, lol.
Nev your array of bromeliads are stunning, the colours are magnificent, I envy gardeners such as you ...sometimes I wish so hard that I had a regular garden and was able to place anything I wanted anywhere I wanted, without having to worry about the darned wildlife...
Tash great idea, I will place some Broms in a hanging basket and see how they go, if I have them low enough to be able to enjoy them but high enough so the wallabies can't reach ,they may just survive...I have a few pups around the place so will collect. I'm also off to Cairns for a family reunion and have to drop into Equatorial Exotics to pick up a medinilla miniata and noticed she has some great broms there that I may purchase, love that giant orange one...I could always cage it because something that size needs to go in the ground.
I placed these broms amongst my dieffenbachias , aglaonemas and aroids hoping that the wallabies would by pass them...see for yourself the below pictures...these broms are enclosed in my pool area and the little blighter's still scrounge around for food in there.
Nev, lovely lot of broms there, particularly like the large one on the bottom right and also the little one bottom left but they're all beautiful.
Jen, I certainly did get some great buys at Wendys and maybe we’ll meet up at her next sale. I am pretty sure I got one of your lovelies too … neo Raphael, I’ll post a photo tonight. As for falling off a ladder and wrecking my knee … think I might give that a miss. We may be slow but determined and we’ll get there in the long run, it's just that we always seem to have so many distractions.
Karen, I know what you mean about brom intoxication and it’s a nice feeling, isn’t it.
Hi too to Colleen, MyaC and Tash and everyone else out there in Bromland. Just in case I don’t get to post tomorrow, I hope you all have a lovely Easter.
Hi everyone. Gee a lot of reading to catch up on. I've been lazy for a couple of nights and just used the laptop on the couch in comfort and I don't have a link to DG on that. I've now emailed Tash's link from end of last month's to myself so I can save it on the laptop.
Shirley that plant was painted delight. I had 3 nice big ones picked out for the sales table last week but when I went to get them on Friday 2 had been chewed badly by grasshoppers. Also quite a few others so was not impressed. Trouble is whenever Johnny sprays we tend to get a shower through the night and it doesn't have time to get into the system of the plants. We are now backto the grasshopper hunt each morning. stick in hand tapping broms to see if a grasshopper will fly out so we can catch it. The butcher birds are also doing their bit and we see them on the shadecloth looking down among the broms before diving right in among them. Sometimes they even bring their catch up to show us before devouring. That's why we feed them mince each day ... to keep them here to work cheaply. About $2 every other day for a tray of mince is cheap.
Nev if you have some spare saundersii I would gladly raise them up. We can always sell some here. I sent that seed to you the other day... I just haven't been on here to tell you so you may have even received it already. I collected some more ripe pods today so if anyone wants some let me know. Oh and I sowed the first lot last Monday or Tuesday (last week) and they are already up so very quick. However I expect the seedlings will slow down the growth after a while. I also collected seed from heltonii today so will see how they take over next couple weeks. I did take some pics but again I don't know where the camera is. I will upload the pics tomorrow to share with you all.
Jen you know you are welcome to any plant we have here. You deserve them for the help you gave on the weekend. Anything you want ... just ask. And if I see anything at your place I'm sure I will ask you too. LOL
welcome back myac. can't remember ever seeing your name when Leisa was around but that was so long ago. a lot of names from those days have never been seen for a long time so maybe they are all just browsing but not talking.
Well the sun is still shining even though they forecast rain all week so it seems something has gone wrong with the weather forecasts, and just when they had them pretty accurate. Anyway it will make for a nice fine weekend for those going away for the Easter break holiday weekend. Wow! It’s great to see so many posts, what a lot of reading to do, so I’d better make a start.
Colleen - I’ll bet you, John and the boys are all looking forward to the Easter Weekend, and all for all different reasons; John and the boys for the camping experience and motor bike riding and you for a chance to “recharge” and enjoy your garden without any interruptions. However you may find like I did once when my wife took the kids away for Easter that the house seemed so empty and I just couldn’t concentrate on anything. It was nothing I could put my finger specifically but things just didn’t seem right. What I wasn’t going to do that weekend while they were away was nobody’s business. I had a list of jobs all planned and do you know I didn’t really get anything done as I missed the sound of arguing kids and the dog barking with them so much that it all seemed unnatural and I just couldn’t get motivated.
About the Neo. Meyendorffii ‘Red Striata’; sorry, but I only have the one plant and as I told another friend who enquired, I paid much more for it than I should have only to find that I have great difficulty growing it here. It’s extremely slow, won’t put up pups and in other words is a real “mongrel” and will probably turn out to be one of those rare Neo’s that just puts up one pup and then dies and you never seem to get ahead with it. I was told it’s a New Zealand hybrid and that’s why I bought it as the New Zealanders are breeding some great plants, however it seems I got the “lemon”, either that or as I’m beginning to suspect, it’s not the plant in the photo I was sent, as my plant hasn’t got anywhere near the colour that’s shown in that pic. (Which was from the bloke who sold me the plant). That’s the trouble you get when buying plants from pictures, and although I’m always warning everyone else, it seems like I didn’t heed my own warning.
Karen – I can’t help you much with advice about racinaea fraseri as I only have a pup which I bought just last year and at this stage have no experience with it whatsoever. I have sent an email to the chap I bought it from and hopefully he’ll get back to me with some answers to your questions.
Jen – Good to see you back on here again. I remember Sue saying they were going on a trip around Australia but I don’t know when they were leaving. I also remember her having a big “dummy spit” about DG which kept eating her posts before she got to complete them; and she said then that she was going to spend more time on Face Book which is a pity as she is a good mate and very knowledgeable about brom’s and will be missed very much here.
I like your pic’s, especially the Aechmea Fantasy, do you know anything about its history? Looking at the banding I suspect it has Ae. Chantinii in the parentage but I can’t find it on the BCR or the FCBS sites so it’s unregistered and could be a recent hybrid or an old one, who knows? As for this new photo “thing”, I reckon it’s great but it’s a pity it’s limited to only five pic’s, because if you have to start a new post to show more, it breaks the continuity of the series.
Tash – Good to see you posting again also, and that advice from Jack that you passed on is well worth taking notice of. That Neo ‘On Target’ that you posted the pic of, I thought I got a pup a while back (from Aaron I think), but I looked for it yesterday and couldn’t find it, so maybe it was just a fantasy from my dreams. One can but hope!
MyaC – Another option would be to mount some of your brom’s on trees if you have any. A lot of people forget that many brom species originated on trees and man only put them pots for his own convenience. There are a few important rules to remember when mounting brom’s on trees; Rule one is to make sure the tree isn’t of the type that drops its bark. Rule two is to make sure the plants are securely attached and can’t move. If they can move, they won’t put down any roots. Rule three is to make sure the base of the brom is in direct contact with the bark on the tree. Some people advocate putting a bit of potting mix or sphagnum moss between the brom and the tree, this isn’t a good idea as the brom will preferentially send roots into the mix or the moss and not onto the bark where you want them, and because of this they take much longer to attach and establish themselves. Many different genera are suitable for tree mounting, but I find ones that work well are Neoregelias, Billbergias and Aechmeas.
Judging by your pic’s, the wallabies soon found where you hid the brom’s, so you have to come up with a better solution. Often the smell of the water in the centre attracts some dogs, but I don’t know about Wallabies. I know of one brom friends who had a problem with Bush Rats eating the seed capsules in her Neoregelias, but I think mounting them on a tree would be a good place for you to start.
Shirley – Yes, probably a good idea to give falling off a ladder a miss. There’s always that old saying that I try to follow which says, “Slow and steady wins the race”. Well I’ve found I rarely win the race but I usually “finish” the race so I guess that’s not too bad either for an old fart like me. That looks like a young Neo. Raphael in your pic also. If it is, it will colour up much more if you gradually increase the light it’s receiving.
Wendy – Yes the seed arrived today and it’s gratefully accepted. I’ll add your name to the list for saundersii seedlings but like I said, I won’t send them until the mail gets back to normal after Easter. Did the bits and pieces Jen took up to you arrive in OK condition? I must say I was pretty confused as I thought you, Jen and Tash all lived near each other and never though Tash lived so far away from you. Never mind Tash, it’s filed in the old brain for future reference. It was great though to be able to use Jen as a courier as it would have cost a fortune to send the larger plants through the post. Wendy I think we’ll have get Johnny to tie that camera of yours around your neck so you know where it is, otherwise we’ll never get to see your pic’s. Gee you only sowed the seed a week ago and already you have germination, that’s fast; although I don’t expect it to be that fast down here as we don’t have that Queensland sunshine to hurry thing along.
Breeindy – Isn’t it always the way, the plants we like are either in short supply, are far too expensive or are “dogs” to grow. Never mind there are always new ones coming along, that’s the beauty of hybrids.
Your plant does look like a “Guzzie” and possibly a Guzmania lingulata or lingulata hybrid, but it’s hard to say with the pic being so small and DG having printed all the copyright info over the top of it, so I’ll reserve my judgement.
That’s about it for now so have a happy and safe Easter to everyone.
All the best, Nev.
I'll finish with a few pic's of mounted broms Pi. 1 is Aechmea Fasciata mounted in the fork of a Pepper Corn tree, Pic. 2 are some plants of Aechmea Foster's Favourite mounted on an hardwood old pole out of the bush, Pic. 3 is an Aechmea Orlandiana mounted on a branch off a Paper bark Tree, when using this type of branch, cut the bark right back to bare wood where you mount your plant otherwise the roots just go into the bark and don't attach properly. Pic No. 4 is Aechmea Recurvata mounted in a Pepper Corn tree and pic No. 5 is of Neoregelia Cruenta 'Broad Leaf'
Quoting:MyaC – Another option would be to mount some of your brom’s on trees if you have any. A lot of people forget that many brom species originated on trees and man only put them pots for his own convenience. There are a few important rules to remember when mounting brom’s on trees; Rule one is to make sure the tree isn’t of the type that drops its bark. Rule two is to make sure the plants are securely attached and can’t move.
Nev , just wondering would they go on coconut tress, I have lots of those, otherwise most of my trees are Paper barks, all in flower at present and the smell is overpowering but the butterflies are here by the hundreds .Thanks for your advice and your tree's look AMAZING also what do you use to tie them down?
well lost my post again. that'll teach me to try 3 pics. will stick to 1 from now on.
Nev pic is of the noetigii seeds taken today showing growth in less than 2 weeks. Now what else did I say in first post????
Colleen unlike you and Jen who will have a long weekend of peace without the kids, I will have the girls overnight Saturday so Easter Bunny will have to come here. Now if only I can keep Johnny out of the easter eggs till then. I had to replace them today after he had a chocolate craving last night and ate 2 rabbits. Hidden this time in the wardrobe so I hope they don't melt.
Myac my hubby climbs as high up the tree as the ladder will allow and uses U nails to attach broms to the tree branches. I've attached a pic of the tree closest to the back verandah. we have mini neos, tillandsias, vriseas and aechmeas in trees. Everyone comments about how the colours make the tree look so good. So give it a go. If you can attach them to the coconut tree I'm sure it will work so well and the result will be so rewarding for you.
Tash I'm sure we all have our tales of disasters and losses. For us it was when we first started collecting seriously and had started paying bigger $$$ for some and wanted to display them the best way we could. Johnny developed some paths and raised gardens and then covered the lot with shadecloth structure. Unfortunately it was made of timber and looked so good. All went well for about 3 or 4 months and they looked so so good then we got weeks of heavy rain. When our plnts started dying we didn't know what was wrong till a seasoned grower asked the question "what did you build the shade structure out of?" That was how we learned about copper poisoning from treated timber. We cleaned them all out and tried to save them but lost quite a few of the more expensive ones. We probably felt like giving up and I'm sure we didn't pay big $$$ for any more till we were sure we weren't going to kill them. Of course we removed the timber and replaced with pipe but kept the coppers logs for uprights. Just remember that you won't make that mistake again so it's OK to keep collecting.
and lastly, Emily had a sleepover with us the other night and Pa went fishing so we had a lovely day of peace to do whatever we liked. Of course Emily wanted to do craft and I didn't have anything here to make. Lucky I spied a couple of terracota pots that were in a bag of pots dropped off to us a couple weeks ago. Anyway I was planning on simply glueing some coloured stones on the pot but emily poured through the craft box and came up with googly eyes and pipe cleaners for whiskers, felt for teeth (I insisted on using the scissors to cut out the teeth) and she decided she would make an easter bunny pot. All I could think was how can we make ears but Emily decided more pipe cleaners would work. She then chose the plant to put into it and insisted on a mini little faith. Now I only have one left as it had only just given me the one pup so far. hope nothing happens to it now. Anyway by the time we put it into a box to take to Nanna Kathy who was arriving from Adelaide next day, the thing had coloured stone earings and a patch of coloured stones on one cheek. Didn't see those going on. She has a mind of her own and knows what she wants. You should try taking her shopping which I did that afternoon. In no time I am peeling a $50 out of my purse but she did pick things for Rylee too.
Anyway I must get to bed now as we have a family BBQ tomorrow, followed by sleepovers for the girls so I'm going to need my sleep.
Well hee it is, Good Friday once again, isn’t the year going fast? I suppose next week will see all of the Christmas advertising begin once again as we head toward the “silly season”
Myac – I’m not familiar with Coconut Palms (I assume this is what you mean; or is there another plant called a “Coconut Tree”)? In any case, if it is a Coconut Palm I can only assume it’s like any other palm with rough bark that doesn’t drop. I’ve grown brom’s on the Cocos Palms at my daughters place and they seem to grow fine. The only thing I’ve found is that if you are attaching them with staples which I think is the same thing that Wendy knows as “U” nails, (even the long ones), they tend not to hold very well in palms as the timber is too spongy and you are better tying your plants on. Believe it or not, the best thing to use is old “Panty Hose” as they are nylon and won’t rot, they are very strong and they will stretch to ensure a tight attachment. Once the plants are attached the Panty Hose can be concealed by draping a bit of “Old Man’s Whiskers” over them which will soon grow and cover them in no time at all. (See the 3rd pic in my post yesterday which shows the Old Man’s Whiskers just a couple of days after mounting and Pic 2 which was 12 months after mounting). You are better to drape on several small pieces as they will grow much faster than one big clump . When fixing to a tree with solid wood beneath the bark such as the Pepper Corn tree as in my other two pictures, I just nailed them on with galvanised “Spring Head” roofing nails. These were driven through the hard rhizome at the base of the plant and into the tree and it doesn’t seem to cause any harm to either the tree or the plant. I have also mounted them on “Paper Bark” trees, but you need to remove a bit of bark at the point of contact so that the roots can make contact with the actual solid wood beneath. If you just mount them over the soft "paper bark", once your plant gets a bit of size, the paper bark won’t support the weight and they just fall off, (bark and all). The other thing to remember is that mounted plants require more water than those in pots as they dry out much quicker due to the greater exposure to circulating air.
Wendy – Those seeds are powering away and I imagine you’ll be able to show us flowering plants in about six months at this rate, they really are looking good. I see you are still using the plastic containers we talked about a long time back when you were trialling different methods. Some with holes in the sides, some with holes in the bottom, some with no holes at all and with and without lids. What method did you finally settle on as being the best for your conditions, and what mix are you now using?
It seems like little Emily has inherited the creative skills from you and Johnny as she always seems to be making something different each time she comes to your place and certainly seems to know what she wants to make and how she’s going to achieve it, while all the time poor Johnny has been evicted and sent off fishing (what a terrible punishment for the poor bloke, I’ll bet he has difficulty coping with all the stress Ha! Ha!) As for shopping, well we have the same trouble with our two year old grandson who loves to go shopping with Mummy and Nanny and every time they get to the checkout they find “extras” in the trolley that he has grabbed on the way past the shelves.
Wendy, that ?Aechmea is certainly a most attractive plant and I’m sorry I can’t help with a definite ID, but I would suggest there is also the possibility it could be a Portea as well. However, if you have no objections, I could post it on some of the other forums I visit and hopefully get it identified for you. I think it would look better though if I cropped out the DG writing at the top of the pic., so if you have no objections let me know and I’ll follow it up.
I’ll finish now with a few random pic’s, Pic. 1 is Neo 'Volcano', Pic. 2 is Neo. 'Ice White River', Pic. 3 is Nidularium Innocentii 'Orange', Pic.4 is Neo. 'Red Imp' and Pic. 5 is Neo. 'Sunrise'
Good morning all. Hope you're enjoying your Easter break. Had to have a chuckle, Nev about your story of your weekend alone. I had great plans for potting up, depupping etc and so far I've done just about nothing. Got up late, read a book, played on the computer, drank coffee but just can't seem to get motivated without the family around. Never mind, there's always tomorrow ... I especially enjoy your photos now because I can walk around your garden in my head. Posted a photo of your Bill. sanderiana hybrid on FB and it got lots of nice comments. Think you let a good one get away but Sue, Wendy and I have all got a bit so you can always get some back if you change your mind. You certainly can grow Aechmeas. My recurvatas and even fasciatas never look that good. Bought Fantasy at Olive's and said it was only new but I don't know anything about it's breeding.
Love Emily's bunny pot Wendy. She's very artistic and you're very patient. You can always hide the Easter eggs around here to keep them away from Johnny. I promise not to eat too many.
MyaC, looks like Nev and Wendy have given you some good ideas about growing broms in trees. I'll post one of my favourite photos from Kerry Tate. I love it for the birds but the broms growing in it are amazing. I put mine in palm trees with stockings and they seem to stick okay, especially Tillandsias. Catch you tomorrow unless I'm on a roll in the garden. Jen 1. Kerry Tate's garden 2. Neo Cee Bee 3. Neo Lorena
Nev you can post any of my pics anywhere you like if it gets me a name for it. I don't think it is a portea. we have several of them and it doesn't match any that we have had before. Also the porteas seem to have much plumper seeds and these are very small ones but I must admit I haven't harvested seed from all of them yet. I also harvested seed from heltonii yesterday but I want to make sure they are viable before offering them so I have put down some and once they shoot I will let you know if I have any more. I may have harvested them early. all the berries were white but there were about half dozen that had gone a grey colour but not black. I tried one and got nice brown seed so took the chance that it was ready.
Jen I love cee bee. shape and colour is spectacular. We have jay bee which also has perfect shape. wonder if they come from same grex. that's good naming if so ... aye bee, bee bee, cee bee, dee bee etc etc. have to remember that when naming one of our grex. Oh seeing you will be potting tomorrow LOL Johnny said you can come and get your ae macrochlamys. We took 2 pups off today, and 2 mexicana, 4 blanchetiana, and lots of neo pups. We couldnt' get dirty as we had scrubbed our hands clean for family BBQ and couldn't play in dirt LOL. Johnny did some watering after taking the big pups off and I continued pupping some of the good stuff from the front display area.
I was talking to the girls today and Emily said nanna Cathy loved her bunny pot. Emily showed her how to water it. I could just imagine the lesson she would have got. LOL. The girls will be here at lunch time tomorrow and we'll have them until Sunday afternoon so we'll see what fun we have with them this time. wonder what Emily will make this time???? Jen you said I must have a lot of patience with Emily but I know you also have boundless amounts of patience also (hence the teacher in you). I let Jen practice with my girls last week and we took them to the shopping centre where we had a bite while waiting for mum. Jen fussed over them and wiped faces and hands over and over again while we ate hot dogs and ice creams. You can imagine how much Rylee dribbled them being 1yo but Jen was there with her paper towels. You'll make a wonderful grandma Jen and you can practice some more any time you want. LOL.
I'll make you all jealous now but I had to go shopping the other day for new jeans. I've had to use belts for a while now to keep my denims up but when I walked past the mirror on the wardrobe door and saw how baggy they were I knew it was time to shop for a smaller size so I was ever so pleased to walk in and see signs saying 50% off all pants. I only had 1 long pair and 1 short in size 12 but now I have 4 more to wear and all for under $50. I've now started adding more food and have been eating potato, pumpkin, peas and all those things I had to give up while on the diet. I even had a toasted cheese sandwich the other day, and with the girls here I've had lollies, chips, biscuits, toast and lots more fruit than normal so when I weighed in this week I couldn't believe I was another 1.2k down and 3cm less. not bad for no longer dieting. how to turn it off now. goal was 70kg and i'm now down to 68.3. Next challenge is to eliminate the extra skin so they've put me on vitamin C and rose hip oil which apparently gives you collagen which tightens skin. Thought you'd all like to know about the collagen info and now back to broms. hahaha
may not get on to computer tomorrow night as Rylee will be in this room. So if I'm not on it will only be for one night. Might get the chance to use the laptop though if I remember to turn the modem on before she goes to bed.
Hi everyone – I hope you’re all having an enjoyable Easter break and all of your brom’s are jumping out of their pots.
Jen – I saw a series of pic’s of Kerry Tate’s garden a few years back now, I think it was when we were all members of the (original) Garden Web Forums. It was truly amazing and she had so many different types of brom’s mounted on trees it’s a wonder that the branches could support them.
It was only a couple of years later that she broke the devastating news that she had been hit with a “black frost” which had pretty well wiped out everything; however not to be deterred, she started rebuilding her garden again and some of the damaged plants eventually put up pups and I believe it’s now back to what it once was. Just to see the pic’s of those burnt, brown looking plants was realy heart breaking.
I like your pic’s, especially the Neo Cee Bee; I can’t see where it’s registered, is it just a new hybrid? Whatever it is, it’s very eye catching.
Wendy – I’ll post your pic this morning and see what the other forums can turn up in the way of an ID for you.
When you mention that you have a Neo Jay Bee, it's interesting what you say about the name and it does sound like they could be from the same grex. Where did they come from? Are they local hybrids or are they plants that perhaps Olive might have imported, any ideas? Wherever they come from, if they all have the shape and colour of Jen’s they’ll be well worth having.
Glad to see you’ve reached your target weight and passed it; I must get the diet off you as nothing I’ve tried works and not being able to walk very far any more doesn’t help either. It’s good to see you enjoying yourself and eating all those things again which you’ve listed . I just have one question though, what did you eat when you were on the diet, just the cardboard boxes?
That’s a nice coloured Ae macrochlamys; I notice that they are quite variable in colour, and range from that nice soft colour of yours right through to a red form. It’s also interesting to see that even though it is a species, it was called 'Purple Globe' in 1980's in Los Angeles; looks like someone got their wires crossed.
I’ll finish now with firstly, three pic’s of Hallelujah. This is what happens when a plant needs dividing and you don’t get around to doing it. Also it’s been grown beneath 75% beige shade cloth and NOT fed. Pic No. 4 is a piece of the same plant grown under the same conditions except it had minimal feeding. I think this proves what Nitrogen does to the colour, even the small amount in a LOW Nitrogen fertilizer. Pic No. 5 is of a beautiful plant of Deuterocohnia Brevifolia which was shown by one of our Brom Society members at the 2009 show and cleaned up all the prizes.
Hi everyone. We are having perfect weather here for Easter. Hope everyone is. After the weathers we've experienced this year, we all deserve a break, especially those who've had damaging weather.
The pics everyone has put up are mouth watering. If I was given the opportunity to select just one for myself, I really wouldn't be able to pick just one, there are such stunners here.
Nev, Hallelujah is a magnificent plant that despite all the newbies coming along, never loses its appeal. Mine had 5 plants on it, but no new pups, so I gulped and divided it up into two larger pots. And they still look stunning! Maybe soon they'll throw even more pups and I'll have two stacked pots instead of one. I expect they will lose colour again this year over the sunless winter months. A shame but can't be helped. I don't think they got their full colour back this summer due to the constant cloud cover we had this year.
Wendy, you are getting such a magnificent collection now. It is a treat to walk around your gardens. Next time I will bring paper and pencil and get my official wish list. At the moment, its forgotten as soon as I leave.
Shirley, hope you get that computer up and going properly soon. They are such a pain when they play up. And can get expensive to fix. Bit like cars.
Hi everyone else. Hope you are all having a great weekend.
Some broms in the front garden. They have to contend with large quantities of fallen leaves and sticks and bark, though we clean up often enough. It always looks messy, but they seem to love it.
Wow! Love that Deuterocohnia. Wonder how old it is to have reached that size. It's on my wish list. Nev, Neo Cee Bee was named after Cheryl Basics and I bought it from her. Think she said it was bred by Margaret Paterson but I could be wrong. Ema is on the FB site so she would know. Don't think it was part of any alphabetical series.
Looking forward to getting a pup of macroclamys Wendy. It looks great. Better in real life. I can wipe sticky fingers okay but I don't think Emily is very keen on me yet. I'm just not her real Grandma.
Can't stay and chat because I'm all motivated today. Have even taken the dog for a walk. Watch out pups. Here I come! Catch you all later. Jen
1. Neo Ashanti 2. Neo Dreamtime 3. Neo Picollo
Hi everyone. Well we had the windiest day yesterday and I've just spent all morning straightening up the poor little brom seedlings that got tossed over on their bench. The whole bench ended up under the pine tree and a whole lot of other plants were tipped over too. What a mess. All done now and I gave them some Seasol so hopefully they will okay. Nev the boys are not going camping til next weekend, so we're off to the markets tomorrow to see what they have that needs a new home. lol I got given a few tils all named. By the time they got here they were looking quite frazzled but seemed to have picked up now and hopefully they will be okay here. Tash I hope you have got your problems under control now. I hope I never have to deal with anything like that. I asked Jack Koning how much one of his white Vr. would sell for and nearly fell off my chair when he replied, $500. Boy was it nice though. Well here's a pic of the tils that I received looking quite nice on their little log and in the top of a palm stump. Have a great day. Colleen
happy easter everyone. I get to be easter bunny shortly and hide some eggs around the house tonight for the girls to find. we had a great day today with them. we went to the Coles shopping centre to see the animal nursery in the centre. Rylee had fund cuddling baby goats and one latched onto her ear several times. she just laughed. she cuddled baby pigs, chickens, lambs, and others. the girls then discovered the wiggles big red car. after a couple of rides Pa pointed out the Hi5 merry-go-round. many rides later (I think we spent $12) we left with a promise of ice cream. We walked down to the harbour and walked along the boardwalk to the ice creamery. Jen I needed you to help wipe the girls. what a mess Rylee was. BUT we had a good day. Rylee was too pumped to have a sleep when we got home so she couldn't wait for tea to cook so i had to make her something and bath her so she could go down to sleep early. hope she won't wake up too early.
Nev I love those domes of little Deuterocohnia Brevifolia. I'm still planning to get a few of those one day. I love the halelujahs too. I collected seed from our's today. Never knew how to find seed in bills before and I've been crossing flowers on a few but this is the first time I found obvious seeds growing. all the flowers were dead looking except for 4 plump purple ones so I thought they had to be seed ripening inside them. I've been watching them each day and today I thought they were starting to shrivel so I took the chance to try one and yes nice dark seed. I'm going to sow them just to see what comes out of them.
Karen even when we have an overflowing pot of bills we try to make sure they are snipped in between so there are only 2 joined together. this forces them to all throw pups instead of just the end one. John Catlan showed Johnny how to do it for the tim plowman and said it worked for all bills. they like to be with onother one so leave 2 joined and snip the next away. If you're game give it a go. you might multiply your clump pretty quickly.
Colleen I love your tillys. Hope you find something nice at the markets and give them a new home. I look forward to seeing the pics. Wish we were going to the markets in the morning too but don't think the girls would enjoy it too much.
I've been pupping madly last few days before it starts cooling down. Took 2 more pups off the xneomea strawberry (see pic attached) and a few more special plants like little africa x strawberry, mandarin miss and gold fantasy. Boy gold fantasy can spit out some pups. can't see why I had to pay so much for it seeing it is a prolific pupper. It helps that I seem to have 2 mature plants producing pups now so the numbers are growing quickly. it's still hot days up here but nights are starting to cool down. Perfect weather really and I hope all the easter campers are enjoying the sunshine.
Better be off to bed soon. Probably going to have an early morning.
Hi everyone, just a real quickie to say I hope you are all having a great Easter. I wrote a huge post on Friday morning and then got called away and left it on screen, and yup... lost it.
so... I am not even going to try right now.
I hope you are all well and the Easter bunny was a good fella to you all this morning,
Hi everyone – Well here it is, Sunday morning and another fine day. We had a couple of showers overnight, but they seem to have gone and the day looks like being another fine one.
Karen – Bill. Hallelujah has been around for a while now and still takes some beating for colour and ease of growth. I have seen quite a few seedlings which have been bred using Bill. Hallelujah as a parent but none of the ones I have seen come even close to being as good as Hallelujah itself.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the leaves falling into your brom’s; in the wild this has been happening for thousands of years and it doesn’t seem to have done them any harm. If however you are concerned about the cups getting full of debris simple for appearance sake, this can easily be removed with long stainless steel forceps which we get through our local Brom Society for about $12 per pair. I think you would probably find something similar in “Kitchen Shops” that sell all of the various kitchen essentials.
Jen – Thanks for filling us in on the history of Cee Bee, it’s always interesting to know bit about the background of these plants.
I hope your motivation stayed with you yesterday and you got lot done because I didn’t as I had to attend our monthly Bromeliad Society meeting. I thought there wouldn’t be many members there due to it being Easter, but it turned out to be a very big meeting and a good time was had by all.
Everyone seems to find the Deuterocohnia Brevifolia very attractive, but personally I just look at them more as being prickly little buggers. I’ll post a pic of an even larger specimen if I can find it. It’s enormous and is in a container almost two feet across, what a show.
That’s a great kaleidoscope of colour in the three pic’s you’ve posted Jen, I think they look great!
Colleen – I wouldn’t worry too much about your little seedlings, they’re pretty resilient and I’m sure they’ll respond well to your treatment. That’s quite a little windfall with the Till’s and I’m sure they’ll pick up quickly under you tender care. I especially like the little bulbous type which is second from the left on your mounting; although I’m not a Tilly grower I’ve always found these somehow quite unusual and attractive.
After your shock quote from Jack, I must explain that you have to realise that these plants are unique. They are not tissue cultured in their millions like so many others are and for the most part are “one offs” hence the high price. They are the result of years of research and breeding by him and at last he has the special “goodies” he can sell for whatever he wants to charge. With plants of this quality and limited availability the market dictates the price and the thing is that it’s an investment; and if you buy one, it’s usually (in the case of a seedling) you who are the only one who has it. Looking at it from a breeding point of view, you also have a unique parent as well, which puts you in the “box seat” to produce some high class seedlings in the future. I’d have no hesitation in buying some at those prices as I know their value, but unfortunately I don’t have a spare $500 to spend.
Wendy – It sounds like the granddaughters were high on sugar and you had to wait until it was all used up.
Congratulations on getting the Bill. seed; did you pollinate it or was it done by “Mother Nature” (insects or sun birds)? Everyone says how easy they are but I never seem to have any success with hybrids. I’ve tried many times and the pods always just either go yellow or drop off with nothing inside or the grass hoppers eat through the inflorescence.
Your plants of Neo Little Africa x Strawberry, Mandarin Miss and Gold Fantasy all sound very interesting is there any chance of some pic’s to share with us?
Your xNeomea ‘Strawberry’ is a very nice plant and for those of you who don’t know, is from a cross between a Neoregelia and an Aechmea. In this case according to the FCBS is thought to be a cross between Neoregelia carolinae (?) and Aechmea recurvata var. benrathii (?). It’s an interesting plant well worth growing however I don’t seems to do very well with it down here and it seems to suffer when the cold weather arrives and only ever makes just one pup before the cold weather destroys the mother plant, so I can never get in front, “production wise”.
That’s it for today and now a few pic’s; the first one is not my pic but should be credited to the owner and grower who is Ross Little of Pine Grove Bromeliad Nursery at Wardell N.S.W. I have posted this pic in the past but I’ll post it again mainly for Jen and Wendy who especially seem to like these prickly little plants.
Hi everyone – Yesterday proved to be pretty productive for me as I spent the morning finding places to put plants which had been potted up the previous week and then we went to my daughter and son-in law's place for lunch with the family and as usual the rest of the day was spent chatting and being amused by the antics of the grand children.
Breeindy – That’s a very attractive Neoregelia in your pic, but it looks a lot different to what we grow as Fairy Tale down here. The Fairy Tale as we know it has more of a mauve centre than the deep pink one as shown in your pic.
There are quite a few hybrids of Fairy Tale with that colour centre and I’m wondering if your plant has had part of the hybrid formula name faded on the label which made it look like Fairy Tale – Just a thought, but this doesn’t detract from the fact that it is a very nice looking brom all the same and after all, what’s in a name? As a quite famous brom grower once said, “Never trust the name on the name tag”!
Not much to write about today so I’ll finish as usual with a few pic’s but first let me add the names of four of the pic’s I posted yesterday and which I omitted to name. Pic. 2 Neo. ‘Golden King’, Pic. 3 Neo. ‘Roy’s Rogue’, Pic. 4 Neo. ‘Grey Nurse’ and Pic. 5 Neo. ‘Inferno’
The first of today’s pic’s is what we grow down here as Neo Fairy Tale, I post it just as a comparison with the Neo Fairy Tale in Breeindy’s pic. Does anyone know which of these two plants is the correct Neo. Fairy Tale?
Pic No. 2 is Neo 'Royal Cordovan', Pic. 3 Neo Princeps 'Rainbow' (special form), Pic 4 Neo. 'Rosy Morn' and Pic 5 Neo. 'Prince of Darkness'??
Nev I will go out now and take those pics of the NOID aechmea you are trying to ID for me. hope the seeds grow for you. also with the seeds I sent you, the portea seeds are another porteo not noetigii. sorry. Yesterday we were sitting downstairs drinking with Johnny's sister and I noticed the noetigii by the pond had black seed pods and as soon as I saw that I imediately thought that's noetigii so that other one on other side of yard can't be noetigii as it has a different infloresence. Both have same label so I think the old lady we got them from has made a mistake. I checked FCBS and the one I already collected seed from is wrong. I've taken pics of both infloresences to show you and will upload and post asap.
I tried to cross the bill hallelujah pollen onto another bill but unfortunately I couldn't find another one flowering on the day so I crossed the pollen back onto another hallelujah. this is the first time I've discovered a nice fat plump coloured seed pod on a billbergia so it must have been as a result of me crossing pollen onto it. I'll take the credit anyway. all others were dead looking except for about 4 of them. they weren't full of seed but only had about 6 or 8 in each pod. I'll sow them in a dish anyway even if there will only be a few in there. it will give them plenty of room to grow.
Unfortunately the laptop doesn't have too many pics on it so I'm limited in what pics I can post. I'll get onto the big computer tonight and post a few then.
By for now.
Another very quick post tonight. Sadly, my computer has crashed for the last time … it’s pretty old and I doubt that repair is an option so I am on the hunt for a new one. I am using the old laptop at the moment but it’s sooo painfully slow and very temperamental … we don’t play well together … I get so frustrated with it.
I will try to keep up with the reading on the forum but my posts will most likely be very short and I will not attempt to add a photo or access FB for a couple of weeks until I get set up with a desktop computer again.
We are also thinking of going away for a few days later in the week.
Nev. pic 1 is the portea I took the seed from and sent to you. I can't find it on FCBS. Pic 2 is the real portea noetigii which I have now collected seed from. I will send some to you as soon as I get it dried out.
Oh and you asked a question recently about the diet I was on. It was Tony Ferguson. I like the convenience of a quick milkshake for breakfast and/or lunch. Now that it is getting colder the coffee shakes can be made into a hot coffee. I am now at the stage where I have to cut 1 of those shakes out and replace with a meal. I am reintroducing those foods I had to cut out like potatoes, pumpkin, peas etc. I can have unlimited amounts of steamed veges, salad, diet jelly. BUT I could only have 2 pieces of fruit per day which was hard. I love my fruit and found that was the hardest part of the diet. If there is fruit in the bowl I can't resist so I had to start only buying 2 piece per day. Anyway my goal was 70kg down from 85kg but last weigh in I was down to 68.3 and that was after reintroducing all those banned foods and the extra meal. I think this week will be different though. I've polished off a bottle of wine this weekend and a family do saw no gluten free food so I had to settle for potato chips and rice crackers and dip. not good so will have to be exceptionally good for rest of week.
Bree, the brom in the first photo looks like Fairytale. It has the distinctive little spots. Perhaps grown in stronger light than Nev's so it looks a bit paler. The one with the yellow flower looks like a bit like Vriesea ospinae gruberi but the foliage is a bit browner. Don't know Decora but it could be a cultivar of os. grub.
Lovely photos as always Nev. Sounds like you enjoyed Easter with your family. The Ae. Spring Beauty that you gave me is getting a flower so I'll post a photo when it comes out.
You have certainly done well with your diet Wendy. You inspire me to lose weight but I'm too lazy to do anything about it. Your Portea photos look good.
Sorry to hear your computer is playing up Shirley. We went through that a little while ago and luckily they managed to recover all our photos. Just to be safe I save them all onto USB as well now. When my computer died I was reluctantly talked into buying a good laptop instead of a desk one and I love it now. Play on it in the lounge while my husband is watching TV so he doesn't feel as neglected as when I'm in the office. Also took it on holidays using mobile broadband and it was great.
Had a lovely weekend in the garden. The weather here was just gorgeous. Nev, have copied your idea of hanging lots of plants so that's given me more room on the ground for the bigger things.
Here are a couple more flowering Aechmeas just to compete with the Neos. Jen
1. Aechmea Belizia 2. Aechmea fasciata variegated 3. Aechmea Little Harv
Hi everyone. Not too much getting done outside at the moment. The boys and I have been going through all their toys and books and making room. Their bedrooms got the going over yesterday. I'll go through their clothes when they're away and then we'll be ready for the next lot . I got given a large bag of school uniforms the other day. Long pants, shorts and shirts and a couple of jumpers. I have only ever bought the very first set for Branden when he started and all the rest have been given to me. Saves a lot of money when you only have to buy undies, socks and shoes. I got a bit carried away there. Lovely pics everyone. The weather has certainly cooled down here. The sun is still warm but the mornings are a bit nippy. I've got the AC on at the moment to take the chill out of the rooms. The boys are still asleep. Have a great day everyone. Colleen
Hi everyone – Well Easter’s over and it will soon be Christmas again and I suppose all of the shops will start advertising their Christmas wares from today. It’s all about the almighty buck isn’t it?
Wendy – It’s always interesting when you find you have a plant that isn’t what you thought it was and the interest then mounts until it eventually flowers so you can look more closely and see what it really is. I’m going to plant the seed today or tomorrow anyway so it looks like there’ll be some little Portea NOIDS of the future in the pipeline. The burning question however is; does the real Portea noettigii have any seeds in the capsules and if so, can you spare me a few please? (I now see your second post so you’ve answered this question for me and I look forward to receiving it) Looking at your pic’s they certainly are very different to each other with totally different capsule colours. Do you remember what colour the flowers were, and were they the same colour on each plant?
I already have quite a bit of info about your NOID Aechmea from the ID requests I sent out but at this stage still nothing final. Ross Little told me they have been working on identifying it for a while now so it will be interesting to see if the Aussies come up with the same answer as the international growers do.
With the Hallelujah you selfed it will be interesting to see what the seed produces. Because it’s a hybrid they could turn out to look like nothing whatsoever like Hallelujah itself as they could go the way of either of Hallelujah’s parents which were ‘Domingos Martins’ and ‘Ed Mc Williams’ or possibly even something completely different.
Also, thanks for the info on the diet; it will be interesting to see what happens when you start re-introducing the potatoes to your diet as these seem to be one of the main culprits. We had a bloke at work once who was quite rotund and his doctor told him he need to lose weight. When I saw him again two years later I hardly recognised him, he had lost that much weight. He told me the only thing he did was to cut out potatoes, sugar and white bread on his doctor’s advice, and he never ate them again and never put the weight back on. (He was allowed two slices of wholegrain bread daily though)
Breeindy – That’s a nicely patterned Vr Ospinae gruberi you posted. I really find the light brown colouring quite attractive and very different to the one I have which isn’t anything near as special as yours.
There are many people who have thought that their Vriesea Ospinaes have flowered twice, but what happens is, that because they are “top puppers”, (the pup comes out of the top and not from the base) when the new pup flowers it just appears to be flowering a second time when in fact it is the new pup at the top of the plant that’s flowering. If you look carefully at yours, you will see that it’s flowering from what appears to me to be an immature pup which is slightly right of the centre of the main plant. If you look closely at the dark area on the left of this, you will probably find the remains of the old flower spike from last time.
Your first pic in the second posting could be Fairy Tale, at least it's more like it than the first pic was but as I've said before it's very hard to ID a plant just from a pic alone without knowing how much light they were grown under. I really like the plant in the second pic also, I love those ones with the gold spotting. There are a few around but my two favourites that come to mind are either Gold Fever or Gold Fantasy.
Shirley – Sorry to hear that your computer has finally "died" and I know just how painfully slow it is when you have to revert to using an older computer in these circumstances. You end up asking yourself how you managed before. Anyway think positive, when you get the next one it will be so fast you won’t be able to keep up with it and we will all eagerly await a report on it I’m sure.
Jen - I didn't give you a plant of Ae. ‘Spring Beauty’. Maybe it's one you got from Sue or Wendy during your trip. As for hanging your plants, I've found I can accommodate more hanging than I can on the benches and as you say, it does free up the benches for the larger plants. The question is though, what do I do when all the benches are full and there's no more hanging space left?
I like your plant of Ae ‘Belizia’ also. I think that Belizia along with a few of the other dark foliage ones do make a nice contrast with their dark foliage which seems to have more of a shiny finish to it than the other coloured leaves do. I currently have a fasciata albo-marginata out in flower but unfortunately although the foliage is nice, the flower head doesn't sit up nice and high like the one on your Ae. Fasciata variegata does.
Colleen - Yes we've had great weather here over the weekend too, but today there is a very cold south west wind blowing and giving a hint that winter's not too far away.
As you say it saves a lot of money when you don't have to buy school uniforms. Some of the prices they are asking are astronomical and when you consider how quickly they grow out of them, it really seems like a waste of money. Sharing and re-cycling is certainly the way to go these days if you want to try and save a bit of money.
Well it's time to go and do a bit of potting so I'll share a few pic's of my own Neo hybrids with you. The first three are from Neo. Painted Lady (sport) x Ferny Grove and the last two are from Neo Painted Lady (sport) x Grace
Sorry for the wrong name Nev. Was too lazy to go and look at the tag. Ae April Showers. I love the red centre. This is a photo of it when I first got home. ( I do have Spring Beauty that I got from Val on FB) Cheers Jen
Hi everyone. Just wanted to say I'll probably just be lurking in the wings for a little while. Had another heart attack on Saturday night. Home again now, but feeling very tired and lacking energy. So please don't think I've gone, I'll still get in and read some, just quickly though.
Karen I hope you regain your energy quickly so you can interact again instead of just watch from the sidelines of your sick bay. I hope you have one of our cards so you can phone whenever you don't have the energy to type (is it easier to talk that type LOL) anyway wishing you all the energy you need to get better than you are right now.
Gee I love all the pics at the moment. I wish I could post 5 at a time but I have lost too many posts trying to do that so I will stick to 1 or 2 if I am feeling brave. I do now copy my text just before I post so I can paste it again if things go wrong. hopefully that works ... I just haven't had to do that ...YET.
Nev I didn't get to take those pics yet of aechmea NOID as we had a lovely visit from our friends from Cooran who are down for a couple of days and popped in on their way to friends at Vic Pt. Of course Jan & Kay brought me another giant till that they had a few of but alas another one with NOID. Anyway I will grow it on and see what it turns out to be. Of course they went home with a box full and a promise that next time we go to their place we can come home with a box full too. Aren't brom people just the nicest people and I know we have made some life long friends through broms. Wish we had started collecting a long time ago so we could have met so many more great friends a long time ago.
Jen I guess you have your laptop with you in Toowoomba tonight. Hope it is not too cold up there for you. I can tell you we have had a taste of winter here late this afternoon and tonight. we actually had to come upstairs early to find jumpers before Jan and Kay left the wind became so cool. We now have all the windows and doors shut to keep that cold wind out. It's even too cool to face my diet jelly tonight and I am really thinking about what snacks I have in the cupboard. I think we are more likely to eat when we are cold so lets see if I can keep this weight off now.
Jen thanks! finally found fairytale. yes thats Vriesea ospinae gruberi i posted, i keep forgetting the name without looking at the tag. My broms are grown in full sun and colour very fast. Sometimes a bit to much. hehe!
This is a new one i have...nice colour
Hi everyone – Well it looks like winter’s finally on the way. The cold South West wind was blowing all day yesterday and it looks like it’s on again today and it feels really icy and definitely has to be coming off snow from the Snowy Mountains. I’m pleased to hear that you’re getting your share up there as well Wendy as I’d hate for it not to be shared around. The one good thing about the cold weather from my point of view though is that the growth of my brom’s slows down considerably and gives me a chance to catch up on my re-potting.
Jen – I’m pleased we sorted out that Aechmea name; for a minute you had me thinking I’d given you something which I didn’t know I even had, (that does sound a bit Irish doesn’t it). April Showers is an interesting plant which sometimes surprises us with different markings on the foliage which is quite unexpected. I have been told this is caused by abnormal variations in temperature which explains the reason why it doesn’t occur on a regular basis, it is still interesting nevertheless. (See attached pic’s)
Karen – So sorry to hear you’re on the sick list. Was the heart attack due to that nasty bloody bus driver? If so I think it’s time something was done about him. I’ll hang onto your little Vr. saundersii seedlings until you’re feeling better. They’re not going anywhere so when you’re feeling up to it again, just let me know and I’ll post them up to you. It’s a message I think telling you to slow down a bit and take things easy; so relax and let someone else do all the running around for you. You just keep an eye on us from the sidelines and make sure we’re doing things right.
Wendy – What happens when you try to post more than two pic’s? I suspect it may be that they are too big and if you reduced their size it may work for you. I’m by no means an expert when it comes to things to doing things with the computer, but I had the same problem until someone on here suggested that my files may have been too large and I should try making them smaller. I did, and it worked! All I did was this: I opened the file with the pic’s I wished to post and selected a picture. When it was on the screen I just “right clicked” on it which brought up a list of options. I “left clicked” the third option on the list “resize pictures” which brought up the “resize pictures screen” and I just selected the one at the top of the list “small” and hit OK and that was it. I’ve had no more problems since.
I have to agree with you when you say how nice brom people are; since I started into growing brom’s I’ve never met a brom grower who wasn’t helpful and willing to share either knowledge or plants (or both) with me. I always treat new growers with a bit of a “kick start” and a few freebies in much the same way as I was treated when I started. These people then go on to become firm friends and even years later we are still exchanging ideas and plants, I guess it’s very true when they say “what goes ‘round comes around”. I guess you’ll now be really trying out your diet with some nice hot chocolate and all the comfort foods that go with it; but I guess we do have to keep warm don’t we?
Breeindy - That's another nice variegated plant you have posted and it never ceases to amaze me of the different colour combinations that show up in these types of plants and I think that's why we never get tired of looking at them. Does it have a name or is it a NOID?
Well it’s time to go once again so as usual I’ll finish with a few pic’s firstly a few to show Jen what I meant about the occasional different foliage colours on Ae. April Showers and Pic. 4 shows a plant I should have de-pupped and forgot it's Aechmea Caudata albo-marginata and is over two feet across and still hasn't flowered. The last pic just shows some of the pups I took off yesterday. The hangers don't necessarily mean I'm going to hang them up but it does make it easier for me to carry a few at a time, in other words I just use them as a handle.
couldn't find that ae april showers on either FCBS or BSI. Is it one of your hybrids Nev?
Nev, I have that info you wanted on the ae NOID for the seeds I sent you. Johnny thinks it is fendleri. I don't know why it would not have a nametag if it is fendleri as it would be one of the pups from the original plant so should have been named. However I often find nametags on the ute where Johnny takes pups. He is very forgetfull these days and often forgets to put the tag back in. Anyhow I have attached the pic of the infl and the plant. From tip to tip it was 1100 wide and from ground to top 600 high. The leaf was about 5 or 6 cm wide (can't remember now) I resized the pics so they should load fine now. It was a bit harder than you said Nev.
sorry about the post last night. I went to select a pic to attach and started reorganising my folders instead. When I went back to DG I found that what I had typed was posted. I guess I must have clicked something unintentionally. I think I need a holiday but we're on the medical merry-go-round and can't find a few weeks in a row where we can get away for a good break. Might have to make it a series of short breaks or reschedule a few appointments. Johnny's infusion was today so we have 4 or 5 weeks from now if we can reschedule. hopefully we can get down your way Nev but I'll keep you informed of plans as we make them.
I'm was a bit peeved last night to see a very big hybridiser post on FB that he ALWAYS knew that vr white windows was the same as vr tiger tim and that he got his white windows from the Cairns conference several years ago. I am pi..ed off because last year when we visited him we paid him a lot of $$$ for a vr white windows and he told us we were the only ones in QLD that he had sold one to. We were led to believe that he was the only person who had one and therefore it was worth the $$ he was asking. When a local hybridiser (JC) saw it he immediately said the white blocks of colour were because of fertilizer doses but we didn't believe him. Now we can't tell white windows from tiger tim. I can't believe that we were duped by such a well known person and for him to say he ALWAYS knew what it really was has made me very angry as that means we were deliberately cheated. But we had started to realise that he was a bit of a charmer and rogue. I don't think I will visit him again when we travel south. I'm not sure if any of you will be able to work out who I am talking about but I will not be naming names on any forum. If anyone wants to ask 1 on 1, I will be happy to confirm or deny names. I am very very disappointed and can only advise you all to be very careful of who you put your trust in and be very wary when parting with big $$$ for plants. Where $$$ are concerned a few people will happily dupe you.
Hi everyone – Another cold night down here last night, but at least that rotten cold South Westerly wind has abated so it may be a nice day after all, albeit a bit cold.
Karen – I hope you’re on the mend and enjoying a nice rest and taking it easy. We’re all wishing you a speedy recovery I’m sure, so get well soon and start posting again.
Wendy – Ae ‘April Showers’ is not a hybrid of mine but came to me as a pup a few years ago. As I think back, I think it came from one of the members of our Bromeliad Society but I can’t be sure. Like you I could never find it listed anywhere and I suspect that like so many other plants these days, it is just another unregistered hybrid that someone has stuck a name on. This is becoming more and more of a problem and when we swap or sell a plant like this it make it look like we’re being deceitful and trying to pull a “swifty”. To overcome this, I have added a disclaimer to the start of my plant list:
“All of my plants carry the names which I purchased them under and may not all be correct as often growers give plants their ‘pet names’ when the true names are unknown.
However to minimise confusion if you select a plant where there is doubt about the name being correct, I can take a picture and send it to you so that you know exactly what you are purchasing/swapping”.
As for the Aechmea seed, no problem, I’ll just write a name tag that says, “Wendy’s Aechmea? Fendleri” and we’ll find out one way or the other when they flower a few years from now. Even if it is Ae. Fendleri it’s well worth growing anyway, as it’s a beautiful Aechmea and as it’s a species, we all have an obligation to continue to grow a few of these so that they never become extinct like so many others have and continue to do.
I’m pleased to see I’m not the only one to get “side-tracked” when I’m doing something, but I’ve never need to re-organise my folders, as they are already organised; “organised chaos”, that’s why I can never find the pic’s I’m looking for. Wendy, I hope that you and Johnny don’t forget to drop in here if you do come down south and get this far, although I expect you would be better waiting until the weather is warmer.
Regarding your thoughts about the Vr. ‘White Windows’, I didn’t see that post on Face Book (I am guilty of not visiting it too often) I think I know who you’re talking about but I’m not certain and before I put my big foot in my mouth as I’ve been known to do on so many occasions, I’ll just say, if what you say is true (and I have no reason to doubt you). I’d suggest you get in touch with him and have it out with him and see what he has to say for himself. I’m sorry to see your post finish on a “bitter note” like this, so I’ll try and brighten things up a bit with a few nice pic’s.
Pic No 1 is a seedling I bred a few years back, from a crossing of Neo Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack] and in view of what Wendy said in her post, maybe I should call it Neo. 'White Windows', although the white blotches on the leaf ends aren't due to fertilizer I suspect they're more due to extremes of temperature. Pic No 2 is a plant from the same cross, it has finished flowering now and lost its colour after producing two pups. I mainly like the symetrical shape and the natural gloss of the leaves and am using it as a parent for future generations. Pic No 3 is of a nice little Neo. Sue gave me but the Bower Birds nicked the name tag, so if anyone can put a name on it I'd be grateful. Pic 4 is another little Neo favourite of mine and is a cross between Neo Sarmentosa and Neo Chlorosticta. To finish up, just to show I do grow plants other than Neo's is a very hardy little Ae Recurvata 'Benrathii'
Hi everyone. Yes I'm still here just a little busy with two lively boys. We went to the markets. There was one guy selling broms there. Just out of curiousity I went and had a look. What a shonk. $36 for vr. kiwi sunset. I said to him, "you're a bit dear" He said well when you buy from collectors I have to put a mark up. I said well don't buy from collectors then, buy from wholesalers, he said I do. I said who do you buy from Ausbroms? and he said yes. I said well I know how much you pay for them. He had "rare" marked on several broms and I thought "gee I have some "rare" plants. lol My brom friend here took some pots of broms, not just one plant in each pot, for him and he only offered $9 a pot. He didn't really want all of them but finished up taking all 6 pots for a swap for Vr kiwi sunset. I told my friend I thought he was mad to do the deal, anyway just out of curiousity he went back to the shop a few days later to see if his plants were up for sale. Guess what? He had taken the pups off all of them and even left Dennis's labels on some of them and the prices were from $22---to $49 for the plants that he offered Dennis $9. Not a bad markup. shonk. Another friend had her plant stall set up across from this guy and she said that he didn't sell very much, not even the 2 frangipannis he had there for $25 each. She sells her's for $8 flowering. I'm going to have a cuppa after that rant. Colleen ps lovely pics everyone. lol
Just popping in to enjoy the chatter and see the pics. Feeling tired, very. Have an appointment today. I wonder if they understand how much stress there is trying to get to an appointment when you are dependent on others to drive you, or buses to be on time, etc. Not complaining really, just very tired. Had a look around my garden this morning. More pups are ready to be potted up to face the world on their own. Autumn flowers amaze me. Mostly purples (purple ginger, ruella, and cooktown orchids) and some red and yellow. It's such a lovely time of year.
Karen if you need anything let me know. we don't want you having to walk up a hill because the bus driver was a mongrel pig. LOL.
Nev we went to that growers place last year when we were down south. we thought we were buying a plant that nobody in Qld had. He said it was the first time he had sold a pup of it and we were the first in Qld to get one that's why it was worth so much. We felt it was worth it to have the first mature plant producing pups. Anyway when I saw him post that comment on the FB brom site I couldn't believe he was saying he "knew all along it was just a tiger tim". This says to me he deliberately misled us by saying it was a white windows. I don't want to put on fb for everyone to see that I am accusing him of misleading us. If we see him I will certainly ask. I got it out of my system by putting it on here for a smaller audience. I may message him re his quote and if I can find it I will copy and paste what he wrote to back up my message.
Nev I love the shape of your plant in pic 2. I agree it will make a good parent. I think pic 3 may be mini neo satsuma. It goes an amazing bring purple in good light but dull green/brown in less light. Can't locate a pic of the bright version though and got waylaid fixing up names in the pic folders. amazing how many times the same picture could be saved but using different naming criteria eg mini neo ..., neo mini ..., and neo ... min. can't believe I did that and took up valuable storage space. ah well cleaned up now.
I'm off to find a quote on fb now. Night all.
Hi everyone – Looks like being a beautiful nice sunny Autumn day today and hopefully I'll get something done in the garden; well that's the plan anyway.
Karen – I hope you’re getting stronger each day and starting to feel a bit better. I finally got you an answer to the question you asked about “racinaea fraseri” way back in April. It’s taken so long because my friend has been having computer problems just like the rest of us, but I finally got an email from him this morning.
He says, “Hello Nev - Got my computer back from the heart surgeon this afternoon, grow fraseri in a good sized pot, good light and feed it, doesn't seem to need any extra special care, mine are in the garden and only get watered when it rains. As far as flowering goes, patience is all one needs".
So it looks like they don’t need any special care, a bit of food, (I know he uses Osmocote High 'K') and just patience, (something I’m a bit short on).
Breeindy – I like the pic’s of Luna, it seems you increased the light and got a good result. Is that a little benrathii in the third pic or is it a hybrid? In any case they will take full all day sun down here which burns the colour into them, but I don’t know about where you live, maybe the summer sun might be too intense. I love your Vriesea ‘White Bands’, it quite “eye catching” and really makes a statement. I was given a pup of a Vr. Fosteriana by a friend and he said it was just known as Fosteriana (large form). Well it’s now at least three feet across and still growing so I hope it doesn’t get much bigger as it takes up a lot of space in the garden but then it is a feature as well so I guess I can’t have it both ways; but it’s certainly living up to its name..
Colleen – All I can say about the bloke at the markets is that he’s a bloody “robber” and is just taking his customers for a ride. I’ll bet he doesn’t get any “return customers”. Personally when I price a plant, I base the price on what I’d be prepared to pay for it if I was buying it. I then knock a little bit off and usually throw in a few bits and pieces as well. By doing this I find that apart from the new customers, all the rest of my customers are return customers, so I must be doing something right.
Karen – As long as you just "look" around your garden at this stage of your illness, don’t start trying to do any de-pupping too soon; the pups won’t go anywhere, and will still be there when you’re well again. Remember being tired is pretty normal after a heart attack and rest is a very important part of the recovery process, so take it easy and don’t try and do too much.
Jen – I think your philosophy on dealing with stress is great and it works too because you don’t see too many stressed dogs do you? How did you go over the Easter break, did you get everything done in the garden that you wanted to?
Wendy – I couldn’t agree more with you about Karen’s bus driver, I could probably describe him more detail but DG would probably ban me from posting here anymore.
I can’t understand why this bloke charged you big bucks for a plant he called Vr. ‘White Windows’ when there’s not even such a plant registered; I would have thought that if it was that valuable, someone would have at least given it a name. Maybe when he bought it at the conference he was duped just like you and this was his way of getting his money back. Be that as it may, two wrongs certainly don’t make a right, and I still think it’s pretty dishonest. I guess that’s one “return customer” he won’t get!
What you say about filing pic’s under different names rings very true here as well, and every time I open the computer I promise myself I’ll sort it out, but unfortunately it’s still waiting. Re. The name of the little Neo I posted, I had a message from Jen also and she also said it was Satsuma, and as soon as I saw the name the bells started ringing and I remembered it immediately; you have now really confirmed it. I immediately went outside and wrote out an aluminium name tag for it and put it in the pot. It seems the Bower Birds don’t like aluminium name tags, only white plastic ones and blue clothes pegs.
That plant in pic 2 yesterday was from the very first batch of seed I ever planted. The cross was Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack] and the reason I chose those two parent was that they were the only ones in flower at that time. I learnt a lot from those seedlings and the most important lesson of all was “don’t judge a seedling on first appearances”. That plant was one out of a batch of “culls” which had been stuck in the garden instead of the bin, simply because I needed to “fill a space”. It wasn’t until the first lot of pups grew up a bit that the quality of the plants really became apparent, so the lesson here is, don’t be too hasty to “bin” seedlings on first appearances, and if you have sufficient space (even in the garden) wait for the second generation before you judge them on both shape and/or colour.
I’ll finish today with five pic’s of seedlings from the same cross that were rescued after being dumped in the garden because I judged them on first appearances
As usual I love all the amazing photos that are being shared in here.
Karen, so sorry to hear of your heart attack, scary stuff, do take good care of yourself and I hope you feel better again soon. I know from other people I know who have had them it does seem to take a bit of time to get that energy back, take your time.
Shirley sorry to hear the computer has given up, they are great when they work, and a pain the butt when they don't! And seems pathetic how long they don't last these days.
Well nothing much going on up here, rain seems to be here for a couple of days again, just when we had got the broms back used to their old water schedule, now they'll be back to wanting heaps again, ppffttt. The ones that sustained bad damage from the dehydration burns are looking just awful!!! Still not sure what we are going to lose from it all as yet, but yeah it's all the expensive precious ones that are worrying us, nothing we can do now though except keep doing what we are doing and see what happens.
Haven't brought anything new to show you, not buying anything for a while, until we are happy with how things are going.
Some of our other broms are doing remarkably well and producing many pups at the moment so that is nice and makes me feel better when I see more little pups popping up through the mix. We are also going to have a bit of a clean out and get rid of some of the ones we collected early on that really aren't worth the space they are taking up, for us anyway. We have limited space and are now learning the importance of not just accepting anything going around, but choosing wisely
Well it's nearly the end of the school holidays here in QLD so all kiddies around the place will be back to school.
Our temps apart from now that it's raining are still above the 30 mark during the day, so we have not taken any toppers down yet, but hopefully in another month they will be down and things that have gone awfully green over summer will now get a chance to colour up again and come back to their former glory, and next summer... we will hopefully have it worked out a bit better so that they don't go as green again.
Well I hope everyone else is well and things are all going good in the broms.
yes Nev its a benrathii in my 3rd pic. All my broms are in full sun i don't have anywhere shady in my yard. They all get coloured really quickly and some burn alittle in summer but go ok.
Heres my other Vr. chestnut x i think
Gee Nev that's a range of colour out of one batch of seedlings. I must remember to take some pics of our seedlings for you. some are growing so fast while others are very slow. Even within the neo genera there are some that are much quicker growers than others. I picked out 4 bigger plant from a tray of princess grace x solar flare and potted them up to see what they become. They are looking good so far. I picked them because pg has good shape and I love the colour that solar flare goes so hopefully we will get some really nice shaped and coloured plants out of that cross.
The billbergia seedlings we potted up are getting so big much bigger now. Fat leaves and getting taller too. Won't be long and they will need even bigger pots. Can't wait for some colour in them though. I have heavily fed them to get the growth but will not give them any more feed so hopefully the colour will come soon. I only used rooster booster on them not slow release so it will be quickly used up but should get some size while it is there.
Must be off to bed now. It is already after midnight. Night all.
I forgot again. Meant to tell you Nev, if you want to send Karen's seedlings up with mine I can pot them for her so she won't have to worry about doing it and she can collect them from me when she is ready. I promise to look after them well for her and she can come for a visit for a chat and a cuppa. WE love sitting with Karen and Barry and enjoying a good chat over tea and biscuits.
Hi everyone – I spent quite a productive day in the garden yesterday, weeding and sorting out plants at long last. The weather was beautiful; so I thought I’d “make hay while the sun shone”. I couldn’t get over how fast the 3” pot size seedlings have grown and soon I’ll have to pot them on as well. Quite a lot are showing hints of their colour and patterns and there are quite a few from a Neo. George’s Prince crossing that are exhibiting nice wide leaves even at this early stage.
Karen – I hope you are continuing on the path to “wellness”, and doing exactly as the doctor tells you and not trying to do too much. That’s a good idea of Wendy’s about the little Vr. sanderiana seedlings. I’ll send your plants up with hers on Monday, and she can “brom sit” them for you until you are well again.
Tash – Well it’s about time you dropped in to say gooday. I thought you had gone “walk-about” it’s so long since you visited. Even though you were having rot problems it doesn’t mean you can’t drop in and see us, the rot can’t be passed on via D.G. you know. Hopefully things are now on the up and up and I’m still hopeful you’ll get some pups from the damaged plants. I’ve found that Vrieseas are just as resilient as any other brom's and in a lot of cases more so.
I have a Vr. Red Chestnut which is one of those plants that will pup before flowering whereas my other two R.C’s haven’t as yet pupped and I suspect they are going to wait until after they have flowered. I had an old mother of this particular plant which I had removed four pups from in Dec last year; (up till that time I had already taken a total of seven) so that’s eleven in total (which is a record for me) and still it hadn’t flowered. I noticed in early Feb that all the leaves were starting to die back and I thought it had exhausted itself and was dying so I put it in the garden in an inconspicuous place to see what would happen. While I was tidying up yesterday I noticed a small flower spike emerging from the centre. Most of the leaves have almost died and it seems it was still struggling to survive by producing flowers in the hope of getting some seed and reproducing itself. When I looked closer, I couldn’t believe my eyes as I saw a couple more small pups emerging. The plant itself was well on the way to dying so I cut off the spike to give the pups a better chance. But it just goes to show how resilient these plants really are; true this is a bit unusual compared to my other Red Chestnuts but I’ve had similar things occur with other genera as well, so let’s hope your plants do the same and produce pups for you.
Breeindy – The pic you posted and which you say you think is a Vr. Chestnut cross. Do you know what it is crossed with? You can certainly see some Red Chestnut traits such as colours and patterning in the leaves which are typical of Red Chestnut which is a C.V. of the fosteriana group, and it certainly looks like turning into a really nice plant for you.
Wendy – Of the five pic’s I posted yesterday, you say, “that's a range of colour out of one batch of seedlings”; and that’s exactly what I thought when they first started to colour up and initially I suspected that ants may have been at work and introduced various other types of pollen into the equation but then I studied the parents more carefully. Concentrica was the seed parent, and as we know is so called because of the concentric rings on the foliage. When you look carefully at pic’s 2, 3, and 4 and even very faintly in pic 1 you can see traces of these concentric rings which have obviously been passed on to some of the progeny. Pic 5 doesn’t exhibit any of these but that may be because the dark colouring is over powering them, who knows?
The other parent is a Neo. Charm x Neo Cracker Jack hybrid, and this plant is a light maroon/burgundy which exhibits spotting on the foliage. Neo. Charm is from Neo. Marmorata crossed with Neo. Chlorosticta which are both species and both also carry spotting, Neo. Cracker Jack on the other hand also has spots and was imported from the USA but the parentage is unknown. So with that amount of spotting in the genetic background, it’s not surprising that around 50% of the seedlings also carry spotting.
So I think this explains why there is such a variety of colours from this crossing with the colours ranging from plain green with purple centres right through to the spotted maroon/burgundy colours.
Who says hybridizing isn’t interesting?
Today I’ll finish with five pic’s of seedlings from the same cross but this time, ones which show the influence of the Neo. Charm x Cracker Jack parent.
Hi everyone. Still here, and probably overdoing it a bit, but life's short so take what you've got with both hands and live to the best you can, says I.
Nev, thank you for the info on Racinaea Fraserii. I have two lovely sized pups, but am giving one to a man in Brisbane as mine will flower long before his, and he seems really interested in them. I thought if anything does happen to me, at least I know its got a good home, and I still have one that should flower in a year or so.
Glad to see so many posts here. Gives me something to catch up on. Thank you for the well wishes too. This attack was very, very mild, but seems to have knocked me around a bit more than previous ones.
Still, went to an open garden in the rain today. Didn't try to get right round it, just stayed where there was less mud. Got a nice young variegated zygocactus and this beauty, Nidularium Ruby Lee...
Good morning all – It seems like everyone except Karen has “writer’s cramp” again. Where have you all gone? I know Colleen wasn’t feeling too good yesterday so I hope you’re feeling better today Colleen.
Karen – With any really special plants I have, I always make sure I give a piece to either one both of two very good friends who I know I can trust. They do the same with their plants and give me a piece as well. That way, if anything happens to our plant, we can always get another bit back. I’ve done this for years, ever since I grew orchids, but a word of warning, you must only give these special plants to people you are sure you can trust explicitly. I know of one grower who was practicing this same method and was horrified to find the person he was giving his plants to (and who he thought he could trust) was selling them. When he questioned him he was told, ”you gave them to me and they’re mine to do what I like with”... Seems like he didn’t understand the meaning of the word “trust “.
That’s a nice plant of Nid Ruby Lee you managed to get hold of and it’s one of the few Nidulariums with multiple leaf colours. Keep a close watch on it though, and if you see it starting to lose colour just increase the light slightly. Once you have the right spot to maintain the colour, make sure you keep it there or in a spot with similar light.
I’ve said for a long time now that I think Nidulariums are very much under rated plants. They are easy to grow and most will grow and flower in shady areas where other brom’s won’t do well. They will however still tolerate good light just like Neo’s will, and I even know of one grower who has a plant of Nid Longiflorum growing right out in the open on the surround of his swimming pool where the summer light is very intense, so don’t be fooled by the thin leaves, they are much tougher than they look.
The other good thing about them is that once they reach flowering size, they produce pups which ensure a reliable flowering each year. The colourful bracts which most people assume are the flowers will stay in colour for many months but the flowers which are usually small white or creamy yellow in colour are found down in between the bracts and are short lived. These brom's are easy to grow and well worth considering for any collection.
That’s about it from me, and to anyone on the “sick list”, get well soon.
I’ll finish now with a few pic’s of different Nidulariums so you can get an idea of what is available. Pic 1 is Nid. Chantrell, Pic 2 is Nid. Procerum 'Orange', Pic 3 is Nid. 'Nat De Leon', Pic 4 is Nid. Innocentum 'striatum' and Pic 5 is Nid Campos-portoi
Hi everyone. Feeling better today thank goodness. I do like those Nids Nev. I have a couple of them but I haven't got the Chantrell. I love the pink in the middle. The colours of all the neo seedlings is amazing. I have a lot of them so have nice things to come. The seedlings of Mr O'Dean, some of them are starting to get colour already. I haven't lost any of them Nev so I'm pretty pleased with that. Am hoping to get the rest of the Reo filled with plants while the boys are away, but not holding my breathe as there's always something else that's thwarts my plans. Karen great to see you're feeling much better. Better go and have a cuppa. Have a great day everyone. Colleen
Good morning everyone. Colleen and Karen, good to see you are on the mend. Looking forward to some photos Colleen when you finish your reo area.
Love your new Nidularium Karen. I'm with Nev. They are one of my favourite plants for a shaded area especially the variegated ones. Your photos of them are lovely Nev. They really show the range of colours.
Wendy, Ray and I took a look at the wet weather and decided to go up to the Maroochydore brom sale after all. I bought a few nices ones so I'll post some photos when I can take them between showers. Off to do a bit more potting before it starts to get too cold.
1. Nidularium rutilans - has spots and stripes! 2. Nidularium innocentii var. lineatum 3.Nidularium Litmus
Hi there. Nev, thanks for the pics of the nids, showing the variety in these. I really know nothing about these plants, but I do remember Wendy saying that they are good for shaded areas, as I had been looking for broms to go under some trees.
Jen, those nids are beautiful and especially the blue one. I like the other 2 as well. Such a variety in these, I didn't know.
Colleen, sorry to hear you've been unwell too. Hope you are much improved now.
I went over the northside of town today and met Rick Cairns, and saw some of his beautiful gardens. We didn't get right around as I was being a bit cautious yet about over doing it. But I look forward to going back and seeing the rest. He gave me some really fab pups from different plants he had growing, and is such a generous person. He loved the racinaea too and I know he'll look after it well.
But if I ever need anyone to care for a plant for any real reason, I know I can fully trust Wendy and John. Actually, there is no one here I wouldn't trust.
We are having some rather wet weather here, putting a dampener on things, but it is probably a good time to rain so that the trees can head into winter with "full tummies".
Hi everyone. Sorry for being absent. I've had Emily here again and she has decided she likes to play computer games. She has discovered a fb game where she has to find certain toys in a room. Luckily it shows pictures of what she has to find not words. She wasn't very good with the mouse at first but she is gtting quite good now. sometimes even I can't find some of the things but we keep trying.
Karen I'm glad you enjoyed your time in the open garden. We've been to that garden and know what the mud was like on a rainy day. Glad you found some nice things to take home. We found the time to pop over to Vicki Forsyth's truck depot Friday and she really does have some nice stuff but grown rough. We had to look past the huge grasshoppers and even a rat, as well as chooks and huge weeds but we did find some really nice plants with potential when grown well. She is bringing some more over through the week so she can swap them for some minis or billbergias. One of their yards has been taken back by the owner and he told Vicki she has to clear out all her plants.
Nev you have some lovely seedlings. I know the ones we have here are developing nicely. The blanchetiana hybrids are getting so big. The dozen or so of the blanchetiana x calichroma are all growing. We have had a couple potted up for quite a while and out in the morning sun. The rest I still have in the seedling area but they are starting to overpower the smaller ones around them. I must admit I have given some of them away to friends as we don't have room for so many that will probably grow so big. Johnny's sisters both have one each sowe can watch them grow. Our friends from Cooran who moved from down here near us to acreage are always bringing me tillandsias that he has grown from seed or pups so I gave them one also. Rest assured Nev they are all in safe hands.
I know I keep saying I must take pics of the seedlings but I still haven't. I did water them all again yesterday and had to rearrange some which had grown so much. Nev those portea NOID seeds are growing so quickly. They are amazing. Hope yours are growing well also. Johnny cut the infloresence off that aechmea NOID today and binned it so that's the last of those seeds. I hope you get some to grow. The actual noetigii pods seem to be only holding 1 seed so I will have to collect a few pods to get a few growing. I will keep collecting them and drying them out until I have about a dozen to grow on. It's amazing how they are all different. The other porteas were full of seed.
Well once again it is nearly midnight and I must be off to bed as Emily will be up early in the morning. She is such a funny thing. Today she decided we should have a pretend birthday party when she found a packet of balloons. When I told her it would be Pa's birthday in 2 weeks she changed her mind and said we would have a surprise birthday party for Pa. She said he would be surprised because it would be early. She even wanted me to ring Jen to see if she could come. We went to see Jen later though. When Pa came in for his mid morning cuppa he got a surprise to find the loungeroom full of balloons. Emily blew them all up but I had to tie the top for her. I also helped her to hang them. She helped me pot some pups today also. I wasn't allowed to help except to write the labels for her. She does a pretty good job of it too.
Anyway I must be off to bed. Pic 1 is nid madonna and 2 is nid vulcan
Hi everyone – Well I got a fair bit done in the yard yesterday, more plant sorting in the morning as well as painting some timber which I am going to put in a few areas of various shade cloth roofs to hang plants from. I also got 2 big boxes of plants ready for sending to Colleen today (including the saundersii seedlings) as well as the Vr saundersii seedlings for Wendy, Karen and another lady on Face Book. Anyone wanting them now has missed out as I divided them equally between the four ladies who asked for them. If there are any late comers, maybe they could get a plant or two from one of the above ladies as they have a lot more than they originally thought they would be getting. Me, well I’m just pleased they’re going to good homes. By the way Karen, I put yours in with Wendy and Johnny’s.
Colleen - Glad you’re feeling better today and hope you keep improving so you’ll be ready to pot up all the plants coming your way. That’s a nice cross section of Nidularium pic’s that are posted. It gives Karen and others who may be reading our posts but not writing, a good idea of just what’s available with these wonderful plants. I’m pleased the seedlings are going well for you; I thought they would as I think that’s the best size to get them. They are over the difficult part and they’re much cheaper than buying larger plants both in cost and postage as well.
Jen – They’re nice Nidularium pic’s you’ve posted and between the three of us we’ve managed to shop a good example of what they’re like. I love the Nid Litmus; I think it’s an amazing little Nid. For those of you who don’t have it or know of it, it is named after “litmus paper” like we used in high school science classes. This changes colours from pink to blue when exposed to an acid or an alkali. The Nidularium of the same name goes through the same colour change naturally as it matures, but doesn’t need exposure to acids or alkalis to achieve it. Truly an amazing little plant.
I do like your striped and spotted Rutilans Jen; I didn’t know there was such a plant, looks like another one for the wish list.
Karen - It’s good to see you out and about again and that you are not trying to overdo things. I’m pleased to hear you met Rick and saw some of his collection. I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting him but I have corresponded and swapped plants with him on a few occasions and he seems like a pretty decent bloke.
It’s nice of you to say you trust us all on this little forum and it’s funny but I was thinking the same thing when I wrote that little bit yesterday about giving a good friend a special plant for safe keeping.
Wendy – It looks like little Emily keeps you both on the hop and pretty busy. I sometimes wonder where they get all the energy from. I know when my two middle grandsons come to visit. I’m exhausted when they go home again and that’s just from watching them. The third little bloke who’s just two, is even livelier, he never stops, and is into everything. I guess it’s all just one big learning experience for them at that age. The eldest one who lives in Bali is more the technical type and likes to examine the mechanics of everything and sort out how things work. He’s ten now and is a pretty good pianist and can speak three languages pretty well also. His Dad had him taught Chinese as well as two different Indonesian dialects as he reckons the way things are going it will come in very handy in the future.
It’s interesting you mention those seedlings as I did some others at the same time, (Ae. Eurycorymbus) one of which I’m sending Colleen. Two years ago I planted this particular plant in a bit of left over Coco Peat “Mulch Chunks” just as a trial, and you wouldn’t believe the root growth, the pot is full of roots and the plant has also put up a pup or two as well. That’s pretty good with our cooler climate than yours and it seems like I’ll be planting more Ae. In this stuff and trialling some Neo’s in it as well.
I like your Nid pic’s also. Madonna is a beautiful plant and I hadn’t seen the Nid. Vulcan before, so it looks like that’s another for the wish list, (it just gets longer and longer).
I’m pleased the Ae. Blanchetiana and the Ae. Blanchetiana x Calichroma seedlings are all doing well for you, and it’s great you are sharing them around. You wouldn’t be able to grow them all anyway as they take up so much area and I think are better used just as a feature plant in a garden. I get my main pleasure from them just by growing the seeds and selling a few or giving them away to friends.
I, like the rest of us are still hanging in there waiting to see the pic’s of your seedlings and we live in hope that it will happen one day sooner rather than later.
I’ll finish with a few more pic’s of Nid’s once again today. Pic 1. Nid. Procerum 'Kermesianum', Pic 2. Nid 'Nana' , Pic. 3 Nid. 'Miranda' (This isn't my pic. but was taken by Jarka Rehak, a friend of mine; the plant is owned by him and his wife who named it after the suburb where they live), Pic. 4 Nid. Innocentii 'Purpurea' and Pic. 5 which has the name of Nid 'Chocolate Soldier' which is unregistered and I suspect just a "pet name".
Hello everyone. Just a quick trip round today as I need to get to the shops.
Nev, among the plants Rick gave me (most were unnamed) was a Nidularium Campos-Portoi. I haven't started potting them yet, as it was a very wet weekend, and the pups are totally saturated, so I'll let them dry just a bit before potting, as the potting soil is quite moist. Then I'll take some pics.
Fellow Queenslanders, I don't have to worry about voting in the local elections, as our local councillor is running unopposed. Yeah! She would have got my vote anyway.
Hi everyone. Well the boys are off on their camp and won't be home until Friday night. They were quite sad when they were leaving, but still excited to be going, just going to miss me. I have a question. Can you cross any broms? Ae. x Neo, Bil. x Neo, etc? Has anyone done this and have a pic of what's come from it? Nev I can't wait for my boxes to get here. It's always like Christmas when I receive them. Might be a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to find. It's another beautiful day here. Quite chilly in the mornings but the sun comes up and so does all the blue sky. It's lovely. Well I had better get something done while I can without interruptions. Have a great day everyone. Colleen
Colleen, I hope they boys have great weather for camping. You'll have time to do some things you enjoy while they are away, but I know, you always worry and wonder when they are away.
Nev, thank you for the heads up re the Vr. sanderiana seedlings. I look forward to them, and to seeing Wendy and John again too.
I have here a pic of a tillandsia I got from Rick Cairns yesterday that I'm rather excited about. The first is my own pic. The next is a pic of one in flower from the web. It is Tillandsia Leiboldiana var. Guttata variegated. My pup just barely shows signs of variegation on some leaves, just the odd stripe here and there. The other 2 pics are the rest of the plants Rick gave me, unsorted as yet. These include the nidularium I mentioned. Last is a pic from Bunya Creek on Brisbane's northside. So green.
Pic 3 is our billbergia seedlings. front ones were potted up first but when we saw how quickly they were growing we potted the next lot into seedling pots. The 2 biggest are behind the tray. Remember the front ones were picked out of the tray first as the biggest ones. The rest of the smaller ones were grown a bit longer before potting up the biggest again. However in seedling pots they have just taken off so well and have passed the first lot in size. They almost need potting up into even bigger pots already LOL.
Hi everyone – It looks like the weather is changing with a lot of cloud around and a forecast of rain for the next few days. Why is it whenever I get things prepared to do a bit of work on my shade house it always bloody rains?
Karen – That’s a nice little collection of brom’s you got from Rick. I have a Till. Leiboldiana but it’s only the plain one. I got it originally as a NOID and when it flowered for the first time I thought it was a miniature type of Guzmania until I was told the correct name. I never knew there was a variegated and spotted one and it will certainly be a great addition to you collection. As for the unnamed ones; when they flower if you post a pic of the flower it’s possible someone here will know what it is.
Shirley – It’s nice of you to drop in even if you are having a difficult time without your computer. I know just how frustrating it is when you have to use an old slow computer when your main one crashes and you certainly have my sympathy.
Wendy – That’s a fantastic growth rate with the Portea seedlings, I haven’t looked at mine yet as I put them on one of the top shelves and I can’t get to them without the steps which my daughter has borrowed. Can you please keep picking the Port. Noettigii pods and get me a few seeds as well please (before Johnny chops it off)? As I would be very interested in growing some especially as it’s a species.
Your Billbergia seedlings have certainly taken off, where they the Hallelujah ones? Are you sure you haven’t got that magic formula that you’re keeping to yourself, or have you bottled some of that good stuff out of the rain and are feeding that to all of your seedlings they are all showing fantastic growth rates
I see you are still using the plastic take away containers; and I remember you tried a few different methods; drainage holes in the bottom, air holes in the top, no holes at all etc., what method did you find worked the best? I hope you will share your findings with us as we’re all here to learn.
Those striped Alcantarea seedlings Glynn has posted (the barber shop grex) will be a wonderful breakthrough in Alc breeding if that’s what they turn out to be. However they look very similar to some Guzmania seedlings I grew and I wonder if they may be bi-generic seedlings with the unknown pollen having come from a striped Guzmania?
Theoretically it is possible as Alcantareas and Guzmanias both belong to the same sub-family of bromeliads. Very, very interesting none the less, and only time will tell, I just wish I had a couple myself so who knows, a few years from now I may just be able to swap you a pup?.
Colleen - Like all young boys going on their first camping expedition they are understandably a bit apprehensive (fear of the unknown I think it’s called) but when they get home, they’ll be talking about it for weeks and wanting to know when they can go again. I know I still have fond memories of my first camping experience and that was over sixty years ago!
I’ve purposely left you until last today as you’ve asked a pretty in depth question which takes a bit of time to answer. Before I go any further, first let me say I’m certainly no expert on the cross breeding of different genera, and what I have written is just my understanding of how it all works.
To answer your question about crossing different genera with each other the answer is a “conditional” yes; the resulting seedlings are known as bi-generic (two genera) and are given a name made up of a part of each of the parent’s generic name which it is always written with a “x” before it to signify it is a bi-generic cross.
I mentioned a “conditional” yes, and by this I mean they can only be crossed with each other if they belong to the same bromeliad sub-family. For example you have the sub-family Bromelioideae which consists of the following genera some of which you will recognise:
As I understand it you could cross any of these with each other and it’s not impossible that you could get a result. There are quite a few registered examples, and below is just a very small sample of bi-generic crosses with some of the more common genera from the Bromelioideae sub-family.
xNeomea = (Neoregelia x Aechmea, xNidumea =(Nidularium x Aechmea),
xNiduregelia = (Nidularium x Neoregelia), xBillmea = (Billbergia x Aechmea),
xBillnelia = (Billbergia x Quesnelia)
Likewise you have the Tillandsioideae sub-family which consists of the following genera again with some of the more commom names recognised:
Alcantarea , Catopsis , Glomeropitcairnia , Guzmania , Mezobromelia, Racinaea, Tillandsia , Vriesea , Werauhia .
Of these, below is a very small sample of some registered crosses of the more common genera from the Tillandsioideae sub-family:
xVriecantarea = (Vriesea x Alcantarea), xVrieslandsia = (Vriesea x Tillandsia),
xGuzvriesea =(Guzmania x Vriesea)
I hope I didn’t confuse anyone, but it’s not just a simple “yes” or “no” answer so blame Colleen for asking the question.
Now for a few pic’s to finish. Pic 1 is the striped Guzmania seedlings I spoke of in my answer to Wendy’s post, Pic. 2 is one of the best known bi-generics of all, x Neophytum ‘Galactic Warrior’, Pic 3 is another commonly known bi-generic plant, xNiduregelia ‘Something Special’, Pic 4 shows three seedlings from the cross I bred from xNiduregelia ‘Something Special’ crossed with an unknown second parent (probably a Neoregelia). The plant on the left has gone on to take on the characteristics of the xNiduregelia while the two on the right look more like Neoregelias. and Pic 5. Probably the most attractive bi-generic of all in my opinion is shown in this magazine pic of x Neomea Fascidorffii. When I looked it up on the records it shows it was a cross between two of the most commonl plants we know, Aechmea Fasciata and Neoregelia Meyendorffii.
Hi everyone – Well it looks like Colleen’s gone and done it! She’s the one who asked that question about bi-generic breeding and I wrote the long but necessary response; it seems like the technical stuff has frightened everyone off. Not to worry I’ll just talk to myself this morning and besides there’s still another four forums to visit.
Just a few pic’s to finish. Pic No. 1 is a favourite little Neo of mine only 12-15cm accross and called Neo 'Cheery Day', Pic No.2 is another Neo which I must grow in the garden because of its size about 54cm across, Pic. No. 3 is one of the many Ae. Nudicaulis varieties, Ae. Nudicaulis Flavo-marginata. This plant does exceptionally well when mounted on a tree. Pic No 4 this time something a bit different, the cute little Fosterella Spectabilis and Pic No 5 is probably one of the most beautiful Neo species of the lot Neo. Johannis De Rolf.
I noticed on Facebook this morning that it's Nev's Birthday today, so had to share in here for anyone who doesn't know. I really hope you have a fantastic day Nev and you get some nice brom gifts or some Bunnings Gift Cards to help you out with all you need.
Have a fantastic day my friend xx
Hope everyone else has a great day too and I try to drop back and read and catch up :)
Good morning. Nev, Happy Birthday. I hope you have a really pleasant day. I was looking at your latest pics and wondering when you are going to run out. I think I've covered mine at least twice. Re the T.Leiboldiana v guttata var., to be honest, I didn't even notice the stripe until I got home. It was the unusual flower that drew me in.
Sunshine here this morning, so washing is on. Birds are going crazy and I'm wondering if they are a bit short on food out there. I don't know how they survive winter when there are virtually no flowers about.
And today I'm going to be potting again. The plants I got from Rick look about ready, though sadly, one must have been too wet and literally fell apart. I'd drained it but perhaps it was already too far gone. Will plant the base, just to see if it wants to continue growing.
And that's about the extent of my plans for the day. Have a lovely day, everyone.
I hope you've had a Wonderful Birthday Nev. What did you get? Thank you for explaining how you can cross the broms. You didn't scare me off I just have been so busy with potting pups and tidying the broms up and now I have 20 or so Epis to put into hanging pots tomorrow. Then I think I'll cut all the brugs back and see if they'll bush up a bit. It's been an absolute beautiful day here. Hope everyone is well and I hope you've had a great day. Colleen. Oh before I forget. The grass pups on neophytum "ralph davis" will they be okay to take off at about 6" tall, not very much root on them but a little.
Thanks for all the birthday wishes, although when you get to my age (72) you tend to try and forget the birthdays. When I was fifty I told my grandson that my birthdays start going back the other way after that, so that now makes me 28 and gee it's good to feel young again.
I must share a funny little story with you all that happened the other day. A young son of a close friend has just had his appendix removed and the conversation got around to discussing various appendix operations. Andrew very proudly showed us his scars which consisted of two little marks that could be covered by bandaids; (apparently if it's a straight forward operation it’s now done by key hole-surgery). Another family friend who is about eighteen, showed Andrew his scar on the side of his belly which was about 2" long.
After discussing the different ways to remove an appendix, Andrew asked me if I had had mine removed (I hadn't) but I do have a 3" scar on my leg just below and to the right of my knee where I cut it once as a boy. I said that when I was a boy, to avoid belly scars, the doctors used to cut near your knee and stick a long instrument up through there and into your belly and take the appendix out that way. Well everyone started to laugh except one (very thick) neighbour who is also very much a "know all"; he was looking quite puzzled, and simply said, "did they"? Well everyone then really "cracked up".
Tash - Yes I did get some Bunnings gift vouchers; you see I have all of my family members well trained and have previously told them that instead of getting me something that I don't need or probably already have any way, to always get me Bunnings Gift Vouchers for Christmas and birthday presents. It's easier for them and certainly much better for me as you all know how handy these gift cards are.
Karen - That's bad luck about the plant. It obviously didn't just happen since you've had it in your care though, the rot was obviously unseen in the plant for some time and all of the rain just loosened the leaves up sufficiently to allow it to all collapse. I always tell people in the case of any brom that dies, no matter what the cause, just put it to one side somewhere out in the garden, and nine times out of ten it will manage to put up a pup. You see these plants are just so resilient they never give up!
Colleen – Pleased to see you’re getting some of your gardening jobs done while the boys are away on their “big expedition”. I’ll bet the boys are having the time of their life; I don’t know about “Uncle John” though, he might never be the same again, although I’ll bet it earns him a lot of “Brownie Points” from the boys!
As for your question about the pups on the xNeophytum ‘Ralph Davis’, it shouldn’t be a problem, I’ve taken smaller ones than that off without any problems. You say they don’t have much root, so just treat them like any other brom with no roots. You must always make sure they can’t move in the pot otherwise they won’t put down roots. In cases like this I just push three bamboo “kebab skewers” equally spaced around the plant to prevent any movement. I do this all the time now as I find it works well and costs next to nothing.
Although the common rule is not to remove pups after March in the cooler areas (this obviously doesn’t apply to the warm Queensland climate) I find that if you have a large collection you have to remove them all the year around, just to keep up with things. Unfortunately during the colder weather pups just seem to “sulk” and stay dormant and not root until the warmer weather starts again. Last year I tried a little experiment by wrapping some fresh Sphagnum Moss (and it must be fresh) around the heel of the pup (this is where the new roots emerge from) before potting it up in the normal potting mix. I found this encouraged new roots and I can get new roots produced just as quickly in winter as I can when I plant in the usual way without the Sphagnum during the warmer months. This works for me and although I’m not saying it will work for everyone, (as we all have different growing conditions), but just try it on a pup which you have more than one of and you may be surprised.
Just a few pic’s to finish with once again. Pic 1 is Bill. Amoena x Viridis and although I haven't posted this before I 'm just posting it now to show Colleen what I meant about the bamboo skewers which are especially handy for Billbergias due to them being so tall and inclined to topple over until they are established. Pic.2 although it looks very untidy with the hanger attached to the pot, this was the best way to display the beauty of this popular old Billbergia hybrid which is Bill. 'Muriel Waterman'. I'm always amazed by the shine it has on the foliage and the beautiful silvery banding on the underside of the leaves. Unfortunately like most Billbergias, the beautiful flowers are only very short lived. Pic. No 3 is Neoregelia ‘George’s Prince’, Pic. No. 4 is Nidularium ‘Madonna’ and although Wendy posted a pic of Madonna a few days ago, I’m just posting this to show how the colour can vary between clones with this one not being as dark as Wendy’s plant. Finally, Pic No 5 which is Neo. ‘Midnight Moment’
Hi everyone. A beautiful morning here though showers were predicted.
Nev, glad you got some Bunnings gift vouchers. I might put in a hint for those when my birthday comes around. Always something I want from Bunnings.
Did you get my message on FaceBook? If not, there is a Friend Request waiting there. I thought we'd done it, but apparently not.
Re the above pics, I have to confess, I was sold on billbergias when I saw my Hallelujah come into flower. I know some are better than others, but even the tiny Baby Tears is a beautiful flower (or is that Queens Tears? I always knew mine as Baby Tears as they are a small flower).
Some pics to brighten up the day.
First is Ae. Covata Too budding up.
2nd is Apricot Nectar, still with amazing colour.
3rd is the NOID from Rick C. last weekend.
4th is a mixed colour group of Neos, a Bill or two, and some minis.
5th is Neo Ostrich which I know I've shown before.
Nev glad to hear you got some vouchers and no doubt you'll put them to good use, enjoy being 28 for the year huh, lol.
I thought I would stop by and kind of correct what I told you all about with our broms at the beginning of the month about the dehydration burns. I have not bothered to share this on Facebook but am happy to share it here.
Well since the beginning of the month they have continued to get worse and we have now lost quite a few. this has perplexed someone who has been helping us and after going through a lot of things and photos and phone calls, we now have a new diagnosis.
They were poisoned!
Now... there are two possibilities, but we are hoping to have the answer in a few weeks/months. Either we did it ourselves with a new product we used on them, (that came very highly recommended) or a neighbour did it.
I had written more but have come back and removed the rest of my posts about it.
I will let you know more when I have answers.
Hi everyone. Tash what an ordeal you are having. I do hope you find a solution soon before you loose any more plants. That's terrible. I would hate to loose any of my broms. Well, I'm going to have a very busy day tomorrow as the boys come home so have to make sure everything is right for them and my son and his girlfriend. AND I hope to get a couple of parcels too. Yippee. It's always like a lucky dip when Nev sends something. Whoo hhooo. can't wait. I will be at the PO at 9 in the morning to see if they're there. It takes 5days to get from Nev's to here and sometimes they still get caught up and have to spend the weekend in solitary It must be getting late I can't think straight. Have had a hectic week but have got a few things done. Not as many as I would have hoped but never mind the world won't stop if they're not done. Nev I loved your story about your appendix. I can just see the look on that bloke's face. lol Loved the joke about the airplane steward. Well I think I'll have another cuppa and then have a shower and toodle off to bed. Karen I hope you're feeling well now, keep taking it easy though. I see everyone tomorrow. Might have some pics. Colleen
Hi all. Missed you all for a couple days. Last night I was so sore and tired after a big day doing the makeover of an area of the yard that I just couldn't think straight. dreaded having a shower because the arms were stinging without water touching them. I knew when I finally worked up the courage to step under the shower I was in for a lot of pain and I was right. Today was just as bad with more potting of the ones we pulled out of the overgrown area. All this started with Johnny deciding to trim the tips of one tree that looked like they were dying. The tree ended up being well pruned and he started on the next one too. He would have chopped even more but I cautioned him about opening up too much sun on the broms. We watched the movement of the sun all afternoon yesterday and again today. I hope we put sun tollerant broms on the tops of the totems because they are now getting a good dose of lunchtime sun. It is shortlived though as there is only a narrow gap between the trees on the east and the shadecloth on the west. Ah well they will adapt and love the winter sun. Pic is of the area we trashed and redid. I think it looks pretty good now. It was getting very thick with multiple pups in most pots and some looking way past their prime.
Nev I didn't know there were so many different genera of bromeliads. The way I think about the seed is if they have the little round seed like aechmea, neos, billbergias etc they can be crossed but if they have the fly away types like vrisea, tillandsia, alcants etc they can be crossed with each other but not the seeded ones like neos etc. I'm not up to crossing too many yet but have gone down the root of F2 of natural hybrids eg ones the birds have done for me. I think doing some of Alan Freemans plants should produce some wonderful hybrids as he seemed to use quality plants. Today Nev, we decided that all your seedlings which have become too big to remain in the seedling area had become lost in the main shadehouse area. We stumbled across a few during the redo so we decided to put dark blue dots on those pots. So if we see a blue spot we immediately know it is a seedling that we need to keep watch of development. We discovered some nice plants which we hadn't taken pups off before hiding in with all the others that we have plenty of. I even found one growing in full sun that I thought was just manoa beauty which we have plenty of so tried it growing in full sun a couple years back and found it thrived. Anyway we've been looking at this one thinking must take those pups off but we have so many that we just kept passing them over. Anyhow when I took them off today I was stunned to see it was actually neo catherine wilson. I like this plant as it is similar to neo mayo but much larger and I would never have considered it for a sun lover but somehow it got mixed up with the manoa beautys we keep in the sun on the side of the path. It was stunning and so big and much flatter than they usually grow. Will post pics tomorrow night of those.
Nev you ask about what we learned about the different ways of growing seed in takeaway trays. Well the one thing we learned was if they have holes in the lids don't put them at the front of the seedling houses with the doors rolled up on a night with heavy rain. We learned that the rain blows in sits in the recessed lid and slowly drips in through the air holes. WE found the seeds and seedlings swimming and only a few survived in each pot. The ones without airholes were fine of course but that screwed up our research. We had planted 2 trays of quite a few different seeds .. one without airholes and one with airholes. Same seed, same mix, planted same time only different amounts of air. Anyway we will try that again one day. The tillandsias definately prefer the airholes as once they start to grow they prefer to totally dry out before being wet again so air is good for them. The vriseas seem to do well either way as long as we give the ones with airholes more water than those without holes. We are now trying different potting mediums too. I don't like spaghnum moss as the seeds/seedlings tend to get lost in the growing moss, If i look closely I can find the little tillansias but I'm worried they will get smothered. I even thought about picking them out one by one and transferring them to another mix but I'll wait a bit longer. We are now mxing perlite into our seed raising choir mix. Hopefully it will prevent the mix going hard on top as it does when too much seed is sown of the vrisea, tillandsai type. It seems to form a mat on top which goes hard.
Nev you asked about the billbergia seedlings. No they are not the hallelujah ones. I'll have to check them tomorrow to see if they are growing. These are some we had here with no ID but they formed a good sized round ball of seed hanging from the spent flower. Easy to harvest when they are like that. Anyway they are now growing so fast. But the portea are the ones that are fast. I can't believe how they have grown in such a short time. I'll take a pic every 2 or 3 weeks to share with you all. I am still collecting the noetigii seed but they seem to only have one seed in each pod so it is slow going. I have a little envelope of them for you. It is an effort to collect those as i have to jump across the pond and grab a golden cane palm to prevent me falling back in. the noetigii is growing in the middle of the palm. Then I have to jump back again. I will send them to you as soon as I have enough to grow at least a dozen plants.
hi everyone,I'm jenny and I live near bundaberg in sunny queensland(except for the huge floods and rain we just had)I lost only about 15-20 veriesas and discovered neo big mac won't take as much water as a lot of other broms.I was just looking at a comment fronNeville (i think0 about taking pups and wrapping them in spagnum moss.I am sure going to try that tomorrow.In one of the bromeliad society books I also read that if you put root powder on them and put them in a styrafoam box with moist sand and spagnam on the bottom they shoot easier than planting straight out so I am presently trying that too.I am at present trying to grow my own from seed so if anyone has any spare seeds I would appreciate them.Neville gave me some for which I am really grateful, but I just love seeing them pop out of the ground ang growing all sorts.I may even have some of my own to swap(all being good) soom.Hot red blanchetianas and puyas.I am very pleased to be in this group and as soon as I worl it all out I will post some photos etc but am very much in the learning stage.It's just starting to cool off a bit here now but I have still gone ahead and planted seeds in the hothouse(box).Those plastic bunnings ones,but have no idea what temperature to germinate them at.Does anyone know please? I have the box facing north as told by a very experienced grower.Well will finish now,just wanted to say hello and also enquire about seeds before it gets too cold.Thankyou for having me in your group.jenny-
Good morning. Nice start to the day with a drop or two of rain for the plants. Now it doesn't seem to want to be sunny or cloudy, so keeps trying out both.
Tash, I hope you get to the bottom of your plant problem. Could they have been over fertilized? It must be so frustrating for you, and I really do hope you solve it.
Wendy, the garden is looking good, but I can't place where it is. Guess we'll just have to come down and see for ourselves in a few weeks. I am hoping to try to get to the brom show on the weekend. Wish I could get there Saturday, but not much hope of that, so will have to be Sunday. Leave me some plants to buy as "souvenirs", won't you.
Colleen, I am feeling much better, thank you. Started potting again but ran out of soil. I do have a new one, but need Barry to lift it onto a shelf for me so I don't have to keep bending over. The pups are starting to get away from me. I notice Pimento has a little pup growing. Will remove it as soon as its big enough so it doesn't get crushed under the mother.
Nev, hope you aren't overdoing it either. Just because you are only 28 doesn't mean you can take risks.
Jenny, welcome to the group. It is always great to see a new face here. We are quiet some days, and others we talk our little heads off. Always glad to see pics of other people's broms too. So dive in and enjoy.
It’s good to see so many of you have been using the keyboard since yesterday and it’s also good to see that Jenny has now joined us as well, so welcome to our friendly little forum Jenny, I’m sure you’ll enjoy yourself here.
Karen – I think I’ve finally sorted out the Face Book thing so everything should be right now. As for the Billbergias, although they have a most beautiful and unusual flower, they are unfortunately very short lived and usually only last from a couple of days to a couple of weeks. That’s why I chose to only collect the ones with nice colour or patterned foliage. That way you have colour all the year around.
The little Billbergia you call “Baby Tears” has been known by a number of names over the years and is one of the oldest Billbergias in cultivation in Australia. It is a species called Billbergia ‘Nutans’ and it can often be seen growing in massive clumps in and around old houses or even on vacant land where an old house once stood and has since been demolished.
That’s a nice little group of plants in your pic’s; what’s the name of the purple one in the top centre of the group picture, that’s the one that jumps out and catches my eye, and it will be interesting to see how it looks when it’s fully matured.
Tash – It’s good to see you posting again, but I’m sorry to see it’s with such devastating news. From what you say (and now I’ve read your P.S.), I’d be going for something that’s been sprayed from next door.
This stuff that cleans algae is a real possibility as some of these algae killers/cleaners contain salt and copper. Even salt in very high concentrations can mark plants, and we all know what copper can do. Is there any way you can find out the ingredients of the product used? It won’t help the outcome, but it may save you a lot of time searching for other answers.
You also mention you used a different fungicide, some fungicides still contain copper as well (especially some of the older ones) and remember not all plants react the same way to a toxic substance, some are stronger than others and would therefore suffer less damage.
Colleen – So the boys are home tomorrow are they? Well you’d better put in the ear plugs as your ears are going to get a bashing from them about the big camping trip. Glad to hear you got a few things done while they were away, I’ve managed to get a few seedlings potted up over the last few days as well and it make me feel like I’m finally achieving something also. I do hope your plants aren’t stuck in the mail over the weekend, but with the extra insulation with them being in polystyrene boxes there shouldn’t be a problem anyway.
Wendy – Wow, this must be the longest post you’ve ever done, it’s more like a book and something we can really get our teeth into, great stuff!
Well you may be sore with stinging skin, but the end result of your make over really looks good, and I don’t think you need to be bothered about damage from the sun at this time of the year (not even in sunny Queensland) as a lot of the heat’s gone out of the sun by now. By the way, when are you coming south, you can help do my make over while you’re here.
As I said above, I’ve been re-potting a few Neo seedlings over the last few days and there are quite a few interesting looking ones and some from a Neo ‘George’s Prince’ cross in particular which are showing nice wide leaves. It’s still too early to see any colour but it makes the waiting all that much more interesting doesn’t it?
I think you probably on the right track using Alan Freeman’s hybrids as parents as he did breed some wonderful plants and some of his better ones also had concentrica in the parentage which shows the value of this particular species as a parent.
Like you I’m always finding seedlings I’ve moved out of the shade house to the garden to make more space and it’s usually a pleasant surprise when you spot one of these plants that’s looking a “bit special” and find it’s one of the seedlings you grew yourself. I don’t have a Neo. ‘Catherine Wilson’, but I do have a Bill ‘Catherine Wilson’. I looked up Neo Catherine Wilson and it’s said to be a possible cross between two species, Neo Spectabilis and Neo. Marmorata so this is probably where the spotting comes from.
It’s interesting what you say about the water entering the lids of the containers that had the holes in them. When I first used these containers I put them on my benches beneath the adult plants and often was puzzled to find the seedlings covered in water after rain, even though there were no holes in the lids. I later found out that the water was entering by actually running down the outside of the lid and then finding its way “uphill” between the lid and the wall of the container. Who says water can’t run uphill? It can happen due to a process called “capillary action”. If you don’t believe me see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capillary_action.
Your description of the round seed capsules leads me to suspect they are from one of the Bill species, known as the “watch spring” types such as Brasiliensis, Rosea etc. I’m pleased to see you’re still collecting the Portea Petropolitania var. ‘noetigii’ seed; but there is one thing I’d ask of Johnny, can he get a video camera and get some shots of you as you jump across the pond and grab a golden cane palm to prevent falling back in while collecting the seed from the plant growing in the middle of the palm? I think it would be pretty good entertainment. Anyway I’ll appreciate the seed much more now knowing of the trouble you take when harvesting it.
Jenny – It’s very interesting what you say about Neo ‘Big Mac’ as a few years back I lost two of these due to rot and I seldom have a problem with rot down here. First I lost one plant and then about eight months later I lost another I’d bought as a replacement (from a different grower) about six months after the first one died. This makes me think it may be susceptible to rotting, (down here anyway), and for that reason I’ve never bothered with it since.
Just a little word of warning with what I wrote about the Sphagnum moss and the pups. I did say it works down here for me in "MY CONDITIONS" which would be very different to your conditions. Likewise I’ve tried the method with the root promoting hormone powder which I also read in one of the Brom Society Newsletters, and I had no luck at all; again I’m in a different area to that of the author of the article. So I guess my advice would be to “tread gently” and just trial these things on a few plants of which you have spares. Again, welcome to our group Jenny.
Now to finish with a few more pic’s, today I'll post some Aechmeas just for a change. Pic.1 is Ae Caudata 'Eiperrii', Pic 2 is Ae Distichantha, Pic.3 is Ae. Gamosepala 'Wyee', Pic 4 is Ae. Orlandiana 'Touch-a-Pink' and Pic 5 is an "oldie" but still nice, Ae. Weilbachii var 'Weilbachii'.
Whoo hooo I have 2 boxes of broms just arrived. They are all unwrapped and slurping up a drink as I speak. Thank you so much Nev. I took some pics so everyone can see what excellent plants Nev always sends. I hope you make a million dollars from your sales Nev. My peace ends today and it will be back to the normality of two very energetic boys being around. I have missed them though. lol Well hope everyone has a fantastic day as I'm going to have and now here are some pics of the broms that Nev sent. I will take individual pics when I pot them up. Colleen
Nev, that purplish neo in the centre of the group in my 4th pic is one from Wendy that I got when just a tiny pup, called Neo Black Beauty. I am actually a little concerned for that one at the moment as it seems too wet and with more rain coming, I may have to bring it undercover. Would hate to lose it to rot.
Yes, I'd noticed that the FB thing was OK now. Many thanks.
Colleen, nice haul there. Isn't great getting newbies. I am hoping to get something different from the brom show this weekend. I'd rather pay a bit more and get one I really love than a lot I don't really want. Well, that's my approach this weekend anyway. I know one I want but its right up there around $70 when I've seen it, Neo Wild Rabbit. Maybe someone will have some cheaper this weekend. If not, I'm sure I'll see something I simply must have. I am getting rather partial to the nidulariums lately now I have one from Nev and one from Rick. The colours in the leaves are exceptional.
I'm having a bit of a run in with Big Pond as it says I've used almost all my allowance up for the month ALL ON ONE DAY! I phoned up and they admitted that there is an ongoing issue with outages and many people in my area are having the same problem. So far, so good. Then they agreed to allow me 2 gigabytes extra for the month free. Trouble is, on that one day, the usage was 17 gigs, not 2. My average daily usage usually is one tenth of a gig, not even one gig. So maybe the extra 2 will see me through the month, it had better hey!
Did a nice walk this morning much of it up gentle slopes and didn't have any pain at all. Guess I'm in the clear again. Yahoo!
This rather large invader seems very attached to my brom. Matchsticks. Can't see that he's eaten any though.
One thing Karen... off with his head. He WILL chew your broms sooner or later so get in first. If you are after nids Karen, I have quite a few different ones here. when you come for your vr saundersii seedlings you can grab a few.
Wow Colleen what a haul. the little variegated one in bottom left of first picture catches my eye. and in the other box there is a variegated one too. can you tell me what they are? wonder if they are Nev's seedlings. Love the litte variegated ones.
Nev a friend brought me a few ae rubens seeds today and we discovered our own rubens has seed on it so if you want some of them let me know. I'll send them with the noetigii. I'll do a deal with you. I've got those other portea on the way already so if you grow the noetigii and get a good take from them we can swap in the future. I don't have room to grow too many of each so just a couple of each will be plenty really. I'm sure you are in the same boat as us with just a normal houseblock. At least now we can find a lot of the seedlings around our yard. we only have to look for the dots on the pots. I actually located quite a few this week. We are still redoing sections of the gardens. It is so much easier just to remove everything clean the leaves out and then clean up and replace pots. Johnny is becoming so vicious with binning mothers. Trouble is he doesn't know which ones we have lots of and which ones are one of only a few. I've rescued quite a few and repotted and hidden them.
Welcome Jenny. this group is more a bunch a friends chatting and we don't get all in a huff if someone talks about something other than broms. We do share a lot of advice too. EG. as you are more in our area in Brisbane, if we have to use snips to cut a pup off we allow the cut end to dry out for 2 or 3 days before potting. We then seal the end with rooting powder before potting. We especially do this with vriseas and always allow pups several days before potting up. If we don't get around to potting up immediately we have left them in empty pots sitting in trays with a bit of water for several weeks before we get around to potting. We even went away last year and left some pups unpotted and by the time we got home about 5 or 6 weeks later they were well rooted and ready for potting. I especially do this with tillandsais and simply wait for roots to form first before potting up.
Anyway I must be off to do a letter now so I'll end with pics of a couple of plants we discovered in the makeover and forgot we even had. First pic is neo dr dresser x black knight. I think with a bit more light the variegation would be even more defined so we have relocated one pup to a more sunny spot. The other pup went to a friends place today. Hopefully mum with spit out a couple more pups now these two have gone. Pic 2 is another one we found looking great. it is called neo josie. the pup started out heavily striped but I think as the colour develops the stripes blend in a bit more. I thought the colour was stunning so it was a lovely surprise when we lifted it down from a totem.
Yesterday turned out to be quite productive for me as I was finally able to make a start installing the extra roof joists from which to hang more plants in my shade houses. Unfortunately once this space is used up, there’s nowhere else I can go as I will have used up all available hanging space.
Colleen – I’m pleased to see you got your plants OK. It seems like the poly styrene boxes are the answer for a five day trip. How did the Bird’s Nest Fern travel? I don’t usually send ferns so I’m new at this and still feeling my way. The brom’s all look pretty fresh considering they’ve been locked up in the dark for five days, it must be that “magic elixir” they’re soaking in, and it really does give good results doesn’t it?
I suppose by now the boys will be home and “bending your ear” about everything they did on their big adventure. It’s really great to see kids going camping and getting introduced to one of the best things boys can do and it’s great to see Uncle John taking the time to take them, so well done Uncle John!
Karen – If you’re concerned about your little plant getting too much rain, just lay it on its side. This will stop it getting overwatered and help drain off any excess, but don’t forget to stand it up again when the rain’s finished otherwise you’ll have a plant growing sidewise. It’s good to see you “setting your sights high” on a quality plant like Neo ‘Wild Rabbit’. It’s a very nice and most unusual Neo. and only one that Chester Skotak (the master) could breed. He had quite a few with that unusual colour combination and they’re very popular and much sought after worldwide and I thought it would have cost more than what you say.
Having a run in with Big Pond are you? I’ve been there and done that; and found the hardest thing was to get a person who could speak understandable English. In the end I asked to speak to the supervisor and got a nice young lady who understood the problem completely and everything was fixed up within ten minutes. That was after about two hours talking to other people who I couldn’t understand and were obviously very much out of their depth in the job they were doing. Don’t get me wrong, I’m certainly not a racist; and in my previous job I came into contact with almost every nationality in the world and have the greatest respect for most of them and never once had a problem with any of them; it’s just that I don’t think it’s too much to expect to be able to speak to an English speaking person in your own country, and I think Big Pond needs to get its act together. They are just exploiting these poor people from third world countries, paying them crap wages, just so they can make big bucks off you and me without providing the service they claim they are. Like everything else these days, it all about the “mighty dollar”, stuff the customer service!
Sorry about that little “rant” I feel much better now I’ve got that off my chest.
About your pic you say, “This rather large invader seems very attached to my brom. Matchsticks. Can't see that he's eaten any though”. Well let me say it’s just that he doesn’t like them, his favourite food is vrieseas, Guzmanias and Tillandsias with the Tilly flower spikes his speciality. The best time to find these pests is when you are watering early in the early morning; they don’t like getting wet and move quite slowly under these circumstances. Don’t use insecticides as a remedy because by the time he’s dead from the insecticide he’s already eaten his way through your best plants, first catch him, (hold him firmly behind the head as he can sometimes give you a nip) then firmly grip the middle of his body and pull the head and body in different directions. You will now find the head in one hand and the body in your other hand. Drop them both on the ground, place your foot on top and twist it backwards and forwards, job done...problem solved!
Wendy – I don’t have Ae Rubens so I’m especially interested in some of that seed. I’m always happy to take any sort of seed you like to send, hybrids as well as species and as usual I’ll apply the same rule as I do here with my other brom friends; we always share the resulting seedlings. If they are hybrids and one of us gets a good one, the rule is that the first available pup goes to the other person. We’ve been doing it this way right back to where I grew orchids from seed and it’s a system that works well but only with trusted friends.
As I’ve said many times, all though I like mature brom’s, my main interest lies in growing the seed. I think it’s a very fascinating hobby and doesn’t take up any space. It’s not until it’s time to move them up into pots that the space problems start.
The plants in both of your pic’s are quite attractive and what you say about increasing the light with the first one could intensify the variegations, although it could also lighten the green in the leaves and hide the variegations even more, so I guess it’s a matter of trying, to find out for sure. I think somewhere down the track the name may have got mixed up also, as I think it’s possibly Dr. Oeser x Black Knight not Dr. Dresser x Black Knight, as I can’t find a Dr Dresser anywhere on the registry. Although Dr Oeser is a registered name, and does carry the variegation gene in its gene pool so that would explain the variegations in the hybrids from it. On the other hand, it may also be an unregistered name and my suspicions may well be incorrect.
The second plant appears to have very faint red lines similar to a “radial red”. Although it is a registered hybrid, unfortunately there is no picture on the registry and like all of Hummel’s hybrids; no parents are given so there’s no way of finding out where the faint variegation may have come from. It’s still an attractive plant just the same, as is the other one. As far as breeding goes, I’d be inclined to put some Neo Rosea ‘Striata’ pollen onto it and I’m pretty sure you’d breed quite a few nice radial red seedlings.
Now for a few more pic’s to finish, Pic 1 is Ae Faciata 'Purpurea' (I find this to be a very slow grower), Pic 2 is Ae. Fasciata 'Rubra' (Again a slow grower), Pic 3 shows two pups taken from an Ae Fasciata variegata and they are showing unusual pink colouring through the leaves, Pic 4 is Ae Bromeliifolia 'albobracteata' (these were grown from seed and although they have an insignificant looking flower, the plant does look good as a feature in the middle of a cacti garden. Pic 5 is Aechmea 'Pie'
Good morning. I'm not stopping this morning. Barry is coming down and we are off to the Brom. show in Brisbane, so gotta go get me ready. At least, I hope he is heading this way and not still sound asleep (more his style). Will catch up later today or in the morning.
We did get to the show, and I did go mad. Don't eat for the week, but will just have to feast my eyes daily on my newbies.
First is Bill. After Glow. Even more beautiful than the pic shows.
2 is Neo Fosteriana Perfecta.
3 is Neo. Groucho. I compared this with Wild Rabbit at $75, and frankly, couldn't see much difference.
4 is Neo Chilli Verde, a brilliant little plant.
Last is Neo. Cayenne, a mini. Good value on this one.
Karen we were at the sale when it opened at 8am. what time did you get there? we were there for quite a while so maybe still there when you arrived? sorry we missed you.
I got a few plants but not too many. A vrisea called rhubarb and a dillings seedling of vr black beauty F3 for a good price but will take a few years of growing to see what it becomes. I also got ae nigre which had 3 good sized plants in the pot so good value, and ae zebrina with a couple of plants in pot. Oh and Nev I got a pot overflowing with ae tillandsioidia with most of them flowering and a couple had even gone to seed ready to collect. Are you interested in any of those? Matt O'brien who grew it said it pups like mad so unless we really want to grow from seed we will still have heaps of plants very quickly. Up to you if you want the seed or not. I'm not sure if I will grow the seed or not as I already have quite a few plants. But the fun is in seeing what you get isn't it? I am happy to let you grow the seed and maybe later getting some seedlings back.
Karen I also got a few tillansias. I haven't taken pics of any of the new plants yet so I'll get onto that tomorrow. We have Emily here for another sleepover so I have been off the computer all night so she can play the Dora games again. She is getting good at it but was very cranky at the end so I made her go to bed. Now I have the computer back again.
I have to share with you what Emily helped me make or tea. I showed her how to wrap one sausage and she made the others. We called them pigs in blankets so she really enjoyed making them. I told her to put 1 toothpick in to seal the final point of the wrap but she decided to add extras for arms. She had fun and even ate 2 of the pigs by herself. I'm getting so good at coming up with things for her to make.
Jen I hope if you are reading this you are feeling better now. Jen dragged herself from her sick bed to go to the sale today but I had to drive as she was a bit woozy. She did get a couple of plants including a carcharadon hybrid with a couple of pups. Good value at $20.
Hi. Wendy, should have known you'd be there early. I had to wait until Barry got here so we didn't leave home until about 10 am. You would have missed the traffic too. It was so hard to get parking with literally thousands of sports players and followers in the area. We were very lucky though when we drove under the Table Tennis Centre itself, just as someone was loading his car to leave.
Saw Barry Genn, Len and Olive, Nev Ryan, and the other tillandsia man, John ?? Len sold me the Groucho. He sort of remember our faces, but probably not where from. We had actually spent quite some time talking to him at their last big sale. I see they have an open garden at the Olive Branch next weekend. I need another payday or ten before I can do anymore damage.
Wendy, these are the ones I got from you at your last sale. I think they are colouring up very nicely and am so pleased with them.
Neo Sweet Dreams X Painted Desert
Neo. Hearts Music X Grace Darling
The third one is a photo of one of my favourite show winners from the Brom show yesterday. I don't know the name, but it sure is a show stopper.
Another nice day down here yesterday and at last I’ve got all of the shade house extra roof joists in place which will give me a bit more much needed hanging space.
Karen – Well now I can understand why you were in so much of a hurry to get away yesterday morning. It looks like you at least got to the sales tables before all of the nice plants had been sold as you have quite a good quality haul there.
Billbergia ‘Afterglow’ is a beautiful plant and is very appropriately named. The next pic which is shown as Neo Fosteriana ‘Perfecta’ I think is wrongly named. Firstly Neo Fosteriana is a species and isn’t variegated and I think your plant is the ever popular Neo. ‘Perfection’ or as it’s sometimes called Neo Fosperior ‘Perfection’. It is a “sport” from Neo Fosperior which was the result of a cross thought to have been between the two species Neo fosteriana and Neo spectabilis. The records say that it is a (mostly) stable sport but I know that it does on some occasions revert back to just the plain coloured of the plant it originally came from.
The other thing I know is that its colour is greatly influenced by the amount of light it is given, and if you look at the several pictures in the Photo Index at http://www.bromeliad.org.au/ which is the web site of the Bromeliad Society of Australia you’ll see what I mean.
The reason you couldn’t see much difference between Neo ‘Wild Rabbit’ and Neo ‘Groucho’ is because they are both from the same grex, which is a Chester Skotak crossing of Neo (carolinae variegated x Hannibal Lector) crossed with Neo Tiger Cub, and like Neo. ‘Wild Rabbit’, it’s an “eye catcher” also.
The other one that really catches my eye is Neo Chilli Verde. This is a particularly nice clone of that cultivar. It does vary quite a bit and some of them don’t even have the variegations. I was sold one as Neo. Chilli Verde from a very well know Australian N.S.W. Bromeliad Nursery once, and it didn’t have any variegation on it at all. I feel I was duped; as in cases such as this when the pup doesn’t carry the variegations of the mother plant it should have the letters “NOVAR” after its name to signify that the parent was variegated but this plant doesn’t carry that variegation i.e. NOVAR meaning NO VARiegation.
Finally your little mini Neo Cayene; this seems to be identical with a mini I have called Neo ‘Red Waif’ so I went into the BCR and found that like many other early hybrids that were grown here from American seed, they were given different names; one in America and one in Australia and possibly they are both the same plants with the American plant being called Red Waif and the Australian one named as Cayenne. So you see from just a few purchases you made at a show you’ve now opened up a most interesting “can of worms”.
The three pic’s in your second posting are all nice looking brom’s also and I’m not familiar with any of them. Are the first two (the radial reds) a couple of Wendy and Johnny’s seedlings and does anyone know the name of the last one?
Wendy – I don’t know Ae ‘Nigre’ so I looked it up just out of curiosity, and the records say that it is a hybrid from Ae. Nudicaulis but the other parent isn’t recorded. I don’t know of an Aechmea tillandsiodia, but there is a plant shown on the Photo Index of the FCBS http://fcbs.org/pictures.htm called Aechmea tillandsioides. It has an inflorescence with “paddles” on it similar to some Tillandsias and Vrieseas; is this the same plant you have? To answer your question, yes I would be interested in some seed please, firstly for myself and secondly for some friends.
We now have a small group of young people down here interested in growing Brom’s from seed, and as you all know it’s a bit difficult getting today’s young people interested in this sort of thing with so many other things to do. As these young people are the brom hybridizers of the future, I’m trying to maintain their interest and encourage them by providing them with various types of brom seed to grow, and any seed that’s surplus to your (or anyone else’s) requirements, I would be grateful to receive and pass on to them.
The “Pigs in Blankets” that you and Emily made look an interesting concept; are they just frankfurts wrapped in some sort of pastry and baked, I’m interested as they look like a good thing to make when our grandsons come over.
Jen – Sorry to hear you’re unwell, but like a true “Brom Trooper” I see you still managed to get a yourself a couple of bargains. Get better soon!
Now for a few more pic’s to finish. Yesterday afternoon I went for a half hour walk around my plants and took a few random pic’s which I plan to share over the next few days. It’s surprising when you can take your time to actually look at your plants; you often see something you don’t expect. An example of this is Pic 1 which is an unnamed seedling. It was from a batch of seed given to me by a friend and which the Bower Birds stole the name out of. I had quite a few of these and have been putting a couple in as “freebies” in various orders just so I don’t have to pot up so many NOIDS.
I noticed this one tucked away on the bench and wouldn’t have seen it except I spotted the flower spike sticking up. I’ll take other pic’s as it progresses but at this stage I still have no idea what it is and if anyone has any ideas, please let’s hear them.
Pic. 1 NOID seedling, Pic 2 Neo. ‘Phyllis’, Pic 3 Neo. ‘xCorreia-Araujoi’, Pic 4 Neo ‘Volcano’ and Pic 5 is another Neo. Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack]
Hi everyone. Well all quiet here again after John and Bianca have gone. The boys are a bit lost I think. They're eating popcorn at the moment and watching a DVD. I've had time to pot all the new broms up and take pics. Looks like you got some lovely ones too Karen. I wish I didn't live so far away, then I would be able to go to the sales with you. It would be really great to all meet up and have a good old chin-wag. Wendy you said something about the Varigated ones in my pic so will start off with those. Here we go. 1 neo. golden king, 2 neo. meyendorffii [red form] 3 neo. blake street beauty. Have a great day everyone. Colleen
Nev, according to Wendy, those two I got from her are probably Alan Freeman hybrids. I am very pleasantly surprised with the stripey effects and the way the colours are getting stronger as they grow.
It is possible that the sellers of that Neo Fosteriana Perfecta named it wrongly, or they could have even got it wrongly named themselves, but how to prove it? I don't know the seller at all to check with him or her. I'll check on the web and see if I can find anything on it. Whatever it is, its a very lovely plant and the photo doesn't do the colours justice.
What you say about Chilli Verde is so true, as there were quite a few on the table, and this was the only really red one left, it is stunning. Others were pink var., others were pale. It was amazing, those differences, really. As for Red Waif and Cayenne, yep, they sure look alike, I have both. I really only got that pot for the 3 plants in it. Made it a bargain buy.
Colleen it would be lovely if you and Pat could come to one of the brom days at Wendy's. I think Pat would probably love the way John and Wendy have done their gardens. I want to go see Jen's one day too.
Bree, I don't know if there is a "best" time for taking off pups. Must admit, I do it when I see the pups getting too big and at risk of getting deformed from being cramped in with the mother. Which means there are some more I need to be taking of very soon. Next Spring might be too late for them. Best if you can get some roots with the pup though. I'm no expert, just thinking that is the better way to go.
Coming up very overcast here, and I can feel some moisture droplets in the air. Hope we just get a nice shower rather than heavy rain. I think the plants have had enough of the drenching stuff for some time to come.
Here are the 3 Tillandsias I got from the show yesterday.
T. Exserta - never heard of this one but its rather nice.
T. Tricholepsis I have one small clump and love it, so wanted more.
T. Ionantha Druid (yellow) no colour as yet. The leaves turn yellow at flowering time.
Well the sun is shining and I woke up this morning to the beautiful sound of Magpies warbling; wow it’s great to be Australian!
MyaC – Well and here’s me thinking you were a newbie, oh well, foot in the mouth again; that’s nothing unusual for me. The last I heard of Sue was that they were planning a trip around Australia. I don’t know if she’s left yet or maybe she’s just “lurking” on the sidelines.
Shirley – The Vriesea saundersii seedlings do seem to be a bit slower growing than Neo’s, Aechmeas and Bill’s etc., but they are pretty tough and have been shade house grown beneath 75% shade cloth so should be hardened off and not “touchy” like ones grown in glass houses under controlled conditions.
As for a potting mix, I would just use equal parts of fine bark and Coco Peat down here in Shellharbour but up where you are I would suggest you speak to some local growers for advice for a suitable mix for your area.
I’m sure you’ll be most impressed with Neo. ‘Old Love Letters’ when it colours up as it’s a beautifully coloured Neo when grown in adequate light.
I’ll finish again with a few pic’s, firstly a group of ten plants I was getting ready to take to the Bromeliad Society Sales Table on Saturday, that is until a friend bought the lot! The second pic.is Neo Mini Meyendorfii variegata, 3rd is Neo Mini Meyendorfii, 4th is quite a large 'radial red' called Neo. 'Nina Rehak' and pic five is Neo 'Nobel Descent Too'.
All the best, Nev.
I think thats the trouble with me love letters,not the right conditions. I think I will pot it up and nurse it in the fernhouse for a season as it's looking very pale and unhappy
HI Jen. I grow old love letters on a totem where it gets early morning sun and sometimes a bit again in afternoon. It seems to bring out the really brilliant patterning. I have another over the east side of the yard in a totem where it gets couple hours of good morning sun until about 10:30 or so. It seems to love that bit of pure morning sun.
Nev the ae tillandsioides (couldn't remember the exact name last night and didn't feel like trecking downstairs to check so guessed) looks like a tillandsia but when I collected some seed today and washed it is is definately aechmea seed not till seed. I have lot washed and drying. When I send the seed to you I still have quite a bit of till capitata red and some others we collected so I'll make up a parcel for you to share with your young protegees.
Karen you are right about those couple of plants they are Alan Freeman hybrids and both are in my favourites list of his. they do colour up so nicely when mature. See pic of sweet dreams x painted desert.
Colleen just after my mum died I stumbled across a neo called kathleen which was my mums name. The seller did tell me at the time that it had been registered under another name but I was only interested in it as it was mums name. I had to have it. Several years later I bought a plant called golden king. as I started getting pups off both I realised they were exactly the same. I checked with an old grower who confirmed that kathleen was an unregistered name and it had been registered as golden king. so they are the same plant. I now have plants in the yard some named kathleen and some named golden king. when I pot up pups now I name them golden king and on other side of label I put "aka kathleen" so those buying them know they have a plant known by both names and will not be duped into buying both.
Anyways I still haven't taken pics of my new plants so I will get onto that tomorrow if I can and post them tomorrow night.
Morning Campers! Geeze, there goes an hour I'll never get back! I've been reading and looking at all the excellent pictures in this thread. I know i was MIA for awhile, and am surprised i am still signed in! Whether I get to post is another matter. hey, you're all posting more than one pic at a time! When did that start, and what a bloody good idea!
I'll have to take some pics and put them up too.
Now, don't freak out, but my brom addiction is over! I DO have plans to travel, but there is alot to organise first, as I have quite alot of potted plants to find new homes for. I have been having monthly sales to help, but I can't see where the plants have gone from, as there seems to be just as many as when I began! Unfortunately, I don't really have pups that I can post off to anyone here, but if anyone happens to be going through Coffs harbour, call in and load up...please! I find i can't get the same money I paid for most, but if I have at least had one or two pups, I can divide the cost between them and might stand a chance of selling them. There doesn't seem to be many collectors here, and hardly any willing to pay over $15 for a mature foliage Vriesea, and I can't get over $10 for an exxy Neo or rarer brom! Nevermind.
Anyway, that might be a light at the end of a tunnel for all of you who feel you ar hopelessly addicted! It is possible to lose the craving if you find something else to turn your attention too! heh heh.
Nev, I have been growing on alot of the seedlings from you, and quite a few are going into the garden in Winter, to acclimatise to more light. They are all doing quite well, and I am excited to see what that NOID Aechmea flower will turn out like. It isn't a 'Blue Cone' crossed with seideliana? or something like that? I have been potting up my faster growing seedlings to offer at my sales for $3, as they seem to sell very easily in that price range, and it will save me time, room and potting mix, not having to upsize the pots next spring. A good photo of a mature plant helps to sell them too.
Anyway, ramble ramble.
Karen, i hope you are felling better and are taking it easy,
Jen, I hope you have gotten over your tummy and are back on track.
Mya...Hello, here I am! I haven't been on for ages, so haven't seen you around the forum for awhile. Good to know you lurk!
Hello Shirley, Tash, Colleen, JenM, Breeindy, Wendy, and I hope I haven't left anyone out.
Tash, I hope you haven't become too disheartened with all the losses you have suffered this year! Heartbreaking to be sure.
better go walk and feed the dogs! Its a bit passed the usual time
At long last I’ve finally started sorting out my plants and making a list of their locations so I can find them quickly. I thought I’d do it in a day but by the end of yesterday I’d only done four benches so it looks like it will be a while yet before I finish.
Colleen – It seems the boys are now going through the big anti-climax after their “big trip”, just too much to take in all in one go, but once it is absorbed your ears are then going to cop the lot.
Your plants seemed to have arrived OK, just a couple of bent leaves which will soon straighten out. It’s always good for me to get feedback (especially pictures) from customers so I can see the condition of the plants after they arrive. I then know if my type of packaging is the right way to go.
I know I have been very disappointed with the condition of some of the plants I have received in the post previously; one lot had “pin pricks” over all of the leaves where the lady sending them hadn’t wrapped them in paper first (she didn’t want to squash them) and the spikes on the leaves had pricked the leaves of every plant they came in contact with. It was unfortunate as these were pretty good plants and I paid a fair bit for them which makes it disappointing when you have to wait for at least a year for a pup to make into a nice plant. Another lot had been packed “wet” and when they were unwrapped had scorch marks all over the leaves either due to being left in the heat or due to the cold temperature in the hold of the plane. A lot of people don’t realise just how cold it can get in the hold of a plane this is why they need good insulation. So I now always pack in polystyrene boxes if I have any the correct size and since doing so haven’t had any problems.
Breeindy – I think the advice Karen has given you is “spot on”. Another factor to take into account is the temperatures where you live, I know in our area (which is cooler than some states) we are told by the “experts” not to take off pups between the end of March and start of September, but that’s down here. The old rule used to be to wait until the pup was one third the size of the mother but it’s been found with experience that if you follow this rule your plants just keep getting smaller and smaller. It’s much better for the pup to wait until it’s a decent size and has its own roots, that way you can take them off at any time without any setbacks. The downside to this is that you won’t get as many pups, but you will get much better and stronger plants.
Karen also makes a point that’s often over looked, and that is the chance of the pup being overcrowded by the mother plant and if left on for too long the pup will be deformed somewhat and you therefore need to remove them at a smaller size to prevent this. Usually if a pup is taken too small and without roots during the colder times of the year, it will just sit in the pot and “sulk” and it won’t be until the weather starts to warm up again (usually in spring that it will start to really grow again. So you see there are a lot of variables to take into consideration. I know that some professional nurseries take pups off at what I would call ridiculously small sizes just so they can get more plants, but then they are professionals with growing conditions which are often automatically controlled to give optimum results.
Karen – It’s interesting that those seedlings are Allan Freeman hybrids. I hadn’t seen any of his that were radial reds up until now and didn’t know he was following that breeding path, but then I’m not surprised, as he’s bred every colour in the rainbow from what I’ve seen, and nice shapes as well. He has done some amazing hybrids and I think all brom growers should be grateful for what he has done as there are certainly a lot of champions amongst them.
Jenny – One of the main rules of brom growing is “good light equals good colour” it’s as simple as that, and just to prove this point, today I’ll take pic’s of two of the same plants, one grown in low light and one in high light. I’ll post these two pic’s tomorrow and the difference in colour of these two plants will support what I’m saying. The other thing to remember is that good light doesn’t necessarily mean “full sun”; this can often harm a lot of plants.
Wendy –Thanks for your kind offer of seed, I’m sure these young people will appreciate it greatly.
Your pic of a “mature” Neo. ‘Sweet Dreams’ x ‘Painted Desert’ really provides an example of what Allan Freeman is capable of and is a beautiful plant. Do you know Allan Freeman, and is he still hybridizing or has he given it up? I did hear on the grape vine that he was unwell and wasn’t hybridizing any more but I don’t know how much truth is in that as we don’t get much accurate news from Queensland down here.
It’s interesting what you say about Neo ‘Golden King’ previously being called Neo. Kathleen (albeit unregistered) and it’s good to seed you doing the responsible thing by showing both names on the name tag. I got a plant (I don’t remember its name) from Sue which had gone through the same process of two names, (one registered and one not) and Sue had done the same thing and mentioned both names on the tag in the same way that you have.
I think growers often forget that a name tag can often carry a lot of valuable information apart from the plant name, if you are willing to just go to the trouble of writing it. It can be an “on-going” recorded history (in some sort of abbreviated code) of the life of the plant with details such as date it was potted, size when potted, fertilizer used and quantity, person it was purchased from and any problems with the plant when potted, number of pups previously taken etc. It’s all handy when evaluating the progress of the plant when next it’s potted up and certainly worth doing.
Now a few more pic’s to finish with, first Pic.1 which shows a few Billbergia pups which I finally got around to potting up Pic. 2 is Billbergia Kip which grows to three feet high and takes on a nice rosey colour when given good light. Pic 3 is a NOID which a friend gave to me and try as I may I can't find a name for it. Pic 4 Aechmea Fasciata variegata (L) and Ae Orlandiana (R) and finally Pic 5 which is from a pup I got from Tash quite a while back and which the Bower Birds stole the name tag out of, so if you're reading this Tash could you please ID it for me? Or anyone else for that matter. (Sorry about the poor pic quality), I don't know what happened there, I must have moved.
We were obviously both posting at the same time. I'm very pleased to see you posting again but most disappointed to see you have found a cure for your "bromeliaditis". They do tell me though that even when you think it's cured it is possible for it to return often many months or even years later.
Please keep dropping in, (even on the big trip) and let us know how you're both going.
Good morning. I'm in a rush again as I have a doctors appointment and started late again this morning. So I hope to catch up later today perhaps.
Just want to say, Sue, I hope you can get fair prices for your plants. You'll need the money for your travels. I also hope you might be able to drop in occasionally and tell us of your travels. When are you planning to leave?
Hi everyone. Great to see you pop in Sue. Hope you find owners for all your broms. Wish I lived closer. Boys are back at school and all's quiet on the home front. Have been just out admiring my broms. Lots more room without the Epis hanging in there. Still not much floor room though. The plans to get more up on the Reo didn't eventuate last week. Too much else to do and to take the time for myself. I feel very rested now though so that's a plus. The first pic is of the bird's nest fern that Nev just sent me. It travelled very well and looks great. 2 Neo. Sun King [red form] 3 Neo Gold Fever Too. Have a great day. Colleen
I have my new computer up and running ... still a few bugs to be ironed out. I was assured it would be much faster than the old one but the speed has not really improved much. I guess it can’t go any faster than our internet service, but I must say, it certainly is a big improvement on the old laptop. Maybe once I get everything working properly and I get used to the new system I’ll be happier. It has an updated version of windows which I have to get used to … I really have no patience at all when it comes to computers and I don't adjust well to change.
My camera and photo stuff has not been installed yet which is a bit disappointing as I got some nice neos at the local market on the weekend, none of which are named (and I said I wouldn't buy any more NOIDs) but I just can't resist a pretty brom. I have taken photos but can't download them as yet ... bugger !!!
I have tried to keep up with reading the posts over the past couple of weeks but must admit to some speed reading and I may have missed some.
Tash, I hope you have your brom problems sorted and you don’t lose too many more … it must be very upsetting for you.
Colleen, now that the boys are back at school you should be able to spend more time with your broms. I know I can waste whole days just pottering around amongst my broms and succulents while achieving very little but thoroughly enjoying every minute.
Karen, Wendy & Jen, glad you made it to the brom show. You all managed to get some very nice plants. I would have loved to be able to go … maybe next time. Is it an annual event? Jen, hope you are now feeling better. BTW, if you want to sell off one of your carcharadon hybrid pups at some time in the future, I would be happy to take it off your hands :-)
Jenny, welcome to the forum. I am a newby too, having only joined in early February this year. I have been made to feel very welcome and enjoy the forum chat and the photos very much. My desktop computer died a couple of weeks ago so I have been unable to post more than a few quick lines on our very old, very unreliable laptop. But hopefully, once I make friends with my new computer, I will be able to make nice long posts, maybe even rival Nev’s … just kidding Nev, as I really enjoy your posts and have learned a lot from you … I really like your NOID in pic No 3 and your Neo Concentrica x (Charm x Cracker Jack).
Hi also to Bree, MyaC, Kristy and Sue … hopefully, I haven’t left anyone out.
That’s about it for me tonight. I have to get to pathology for fasting blood tests in the morning before another appointment so no early morning coffee or breakfast for me tomorrow ... I don’t really feel human till I have had my morning coffee so I’ll be a bit out of sorts early on.
I have a pretty busy day ahead of me today, an 8.00 am appointment at hospital with the cardiologist for an angiogram which is being done to see if there is anything going on in my heart which could be causing the painful swelling in my legs and feet that limits my walking so much. Hopefully they’ll find what’s causing it and be able to do something about it... fingers crossed.
If I suddenly vanish from these forums unexpectedly it will mean that my old computer has died. It’s been doing some strange things lately and getting slower and slower and I think it will have to go to the computer doctor for a check up in the very near future and it seems that I may be following Shirley down the same path towards a new computer.
Karen – Nice of you to drop in to say good day on your way to the doctors. I hope everything goes well for you and you get a good report.
Colleen – Gee that Bird’s Nest Fern travelled surprisingly well didn’t it? The plants look good now they have been potted up, but it’s a pity you ran out of light when you took the pic’s as we can’t see the true colours very well. The Sun King ‘Red Form’ is quite striking with its bright red centre, but it does have rather savage prickles, a feature that a lot of growers (not me) seem to like.
I’ll bet the boys will be busy at school telling all of their friends about their big camping adventure and I’ll bet they have a captive audience.
I spent the afternoon yesterday dead leafing all of the brom’s on the benches in the shade house as I went though checking and recording the names. What a job that turned out to be, much more time consuming than I first thought, anyway there’s still a lot more to do so I guess they’ll just have to wait until tomorrow.
Shirley – Pleased to see you have got your computer sorted out and can get back to normal. No doubt you will find the new version of Windows will be easier and faster once you get used to it but it seems you’re like me and don’t deal well with change. It seems we just get used to using one Windows programme and along comes an updated version and we have to learn all over again. I guess that’s the price we pay for modern technology. I read somewhere that by the time we buy a new computer, it’s already obsolete because the speed of technology and inventing new systems and programmes is so fast.
I think we all decide at one time or another not to buy unnamed brom’s, but there is always “that one” that jumps up and hits you in the eye and you can’t resist. Although it’s good to have names for all of your plants, there are still some very beautiful plants that are unnamed and just because they don’t have a name doesn’t make them of a lesser quality. In fact I’ve occasionally seen brom’s win prizes in shows while just carrying the name “Neoregelia Hybrid” and that’s all.
You have my sympathy Shirley, there’s nothing I hate more than needing to fast before a blood test or procedure. I love my big Aussie “brekkie” every morning and feel like I could “kill” until I get it, so I know just how you feel.
Well that’s about it from me this morning so now for a few more pic’s. Pic 1 shows two plants I commonly get confused, Neo 'Orange Flush' and Neo ' Orange Delight', Pic 2 is my Vr. 'Red Chestnut', Pic 3 shows how to get the maximum use from minimum available space. Pic 4 is Neo, 'Lovely Lady' and Pic 5 is another little seedling from my Painted Lady [sport] parent.
good morning...or is it? Rain again here, which seems the usual state of affairs these days! I'm sure I'm growing gills. This is why I have time for the computer, as its impossible to mow the lawns, and the house is now...almost...spotless!
Nev, it'll be a few more months before we travel, I think. Got quite a bit to do, with sorting through the house for whats stays (packed up) and what goes, as we will either rent or sell the house. I'd be devastated to come home to a jungle, so am not real keen on the rental idea. I'd rather walk away from it all together! I hope your appointment can shed some light on your health problems, and make come up with some ideas to make things easier for you.
Nev, I did actually succumb to bromeleitis a month or so ago, when I visited Peter tristrams with Jen, and couldn't resist a couple of N. 'Cacharodon' type hybrids. Lord knows what I will do with them, as I'd like to see them grow a little bit more. One of my neighbours will look after any I can't quite bear to part with, and I let her have first pick of my good ones so that I know where I can always get a pup from in the future, if I so desire.
I hope your appointment goes well too, karen. I was a bit shocked to hear you have had another heart attack, so take it easy gal! I see you got some good scores at the BSQ show. I would have loved to go, but it is very hard to look now, when I don't want to collect anymore.
Colleen, your shade house must be almost overflowing! What did you do with your epis? I used to have mine in the fernery, where they didn't do much of anything, so I hung them under the gum trees, in various locations and they flower beautifully for me now, some the size of bread plates! Its a pity you didn't save any long lengths of your palm trunks, to stand up and mount broms too! I think an old member here, Bromalong, used to have bits of PVC pipe with holes cut in it, standing vertical, and he would plant the broms into the holes to make a brom tree/pole. I guess he would start by filling the PVC with potting media, to the first hole, put a plant in and top up to the next hole? Not sure how well its works, but might be an idea to save space?
Nev, I did actually succumb to bromeleitis a month or so ago, when I visited Peter tristrams with Jen, and couldn't resist a couple of N. 'Cacharodon' type hybrids. Lord knows what I will do with them, as I'd like to see them grow a little bit more. One of my neighbours will look after any I can't quite bear to part with, and I let her have first pick of my good ones so that I know where I can always get a pup from in the future, if I so desire.
Shirley, we have the same problem of a slow internet speed, as ADSL2 isn't available in my area, still, the current speed beats the old dial up! I find if my computer starts to slow up, I run a scan, then do a defrag, then clean up my photos by burning them to disc, as i am convinced they take up alot of room. Seems to work, but I don't want to give my computer any reason to make a liar of me, so shhhhhhhhh!
I might have a go at posting a couple of pics, then I'll have to copy it all to my mouse before sending, incase DG does the usual, 'you are not logged in' trick! bear with me.
pic 1 is Alcantarea imperialis, possibly hell fire
pic 2 is Neoregelia Morris Henry Hobbs (gifted from bromalong) with seeds germinating in the flower head
pic 3 is my Tiger group
Hello again. Doctor's appt went well, just renewed some scripts and had blood pressure checked. I walked in and sat down, she looked at me and said "I was expecting you to look sick, or something". Hehehe...
Nev, good luck with the angiogram. Its an extreme way to have to find out whats wrong, so I hope it does the job. And tell that computer to behave itself. We love your posts and would miss you and them if it crashed on you. BTW, nice lot of pics there. Red Chestnut is a stunner, isn't it.
Sue that possible Hell Fire is gorgeous. Wish I lived closer, I'd look after as many as I could for you. I didn't realize seeds might germinate while still in the main plant. True survivors, those.
Hi everyone else. Heavy cloud cover here, but the actual rains are heading south east and totally missing Logan. Typical. Hope you all have a lovely day.
Hi everyone. I got a parcel of Snows of Manua Kea hybrids yesterday. There is one stunner in there. S.of M.K. x Speckles. The others might colour up, I do hope. Raining again. Not heavy but enough to make me come inside. I put the Epis up on a hanging frame made from the old trampoline. I will put shade cloth over the top before long. A few of the arms of the Epis will have to be cut off as they are reaching for the sky. Glad you're feeling so much better Karen. Nev you keep talking nicely to your computer as we would be lost without you. Good luck with the angiogram. Here's some pics of my Vrieseas. Colleen ps the first one is Snow of Manua Kea x Speckles.
I will have to make it a quick post tonight as it’s getting late.
Nev, hope your angiogram went well and the Drs are able to diagnose a cause for the painful swelling in your legs and feet and can then prescribe medication to improve it.
Hope your computer is behaving too. I am finding it difficult to get used to the new Windows 7 as I keep trying to do things the way of the old version and of course, it don’t work. I think my monitor will be next to go as it’s starting to go black at the top of the screen and seems to be working its’ way down. I might starting looking for a new monitor before I’m back on that bloody laptop again.
The guy who set up my new computer told me that the smallest monitor they sell now is 21”. I don’t really want to go to that size … my current screen is only about 15” so I’ll need to sit on the other side of the room till my eyes adjust to the size.
Anyway, back to your computer Nev, you will probably find things have changed a bit since your last computer purchase. One thing I wasn’t aware of … the new ones come with NO software other than the windows operating system and you have to buy all the software, ie Microsoft office, publisher, powerpoint, outlook etc etc, stuff that used to come already installed … then you have to pay to have them installed if you are not computer savvy. And most of the new ones now come complete with a mouse and keyboard ... which you don't really need but have to pay for, of course.
I managed to get through the day OK without brekky. I must say though that I missed my morning coffee more than breakfast.
Karen, glad to hear that everything went well with your Dr.
Sue, are you planning travel overseas or within Australia. We had plans a few years ago to travel around Oz in our caravan but after having to put it off a number of times for one reason or another, we have put it on hold indefinitely for the time being. We will probably go in a few years after we sell up but it’s a really hard decision “what to do with the house”. Ideally, we would like housesitters who would look after the house, the dog, the plants and at the same time, be happy to work their butts off looking after gardens and 5 acres … don’t want much, do we. Good luck with your travel plans.
Colleen, I like your Vriesea SMK x Speckles. And, I don’t know about you but, unlike Nev, I like the broms with mean looking prickles.
Still haven't got the photo software installed, so no pics yet.
Anyway, that's it for tonight ... I'm off to bed ... it's already tomorrow.
Hi everyone – Well it’s fine and sunny here this morning, but the south west wind is freezing and obviously blowing all the way up from the Snowy Mountains. At least it’s not raining for the Anzac marches, so that’s good.
Sue – It’s great to hear from you and get an update about you plans for travel, but oh what a lot of organising you have to do up until you leave, I’ll bet you don’t know your arse from your elbow you’ll have so much organising to do.
We had plans to do this when we were younger but different family problems kept cropping up and then there was a run of various medical problems and in the end we just asked ourselves was it all really worth it. We have spent time holidaying in Victoria, Tasmania, Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia over the years but never on one continuing long holiday taking in the whole country.
We love were we live, we have all our family (except our youngest son and his family who live in Bali) and friends nearby, we have a good medical centre with a Dr. we’ve had for over forty years, a hospital which is ten minutes away and an ambulance and Fire Station just up the road, in fact I think we are very fortunate to have everything we need right on our doorstep.
Everyone we speak to who travels all say the same thing, and that is they didn’t see anywhere as good as here in their travels and are always pleased to be home. Now, unfortunately I have mobility problems and can only walk very short distances at a time and can’t travel for more than half an hour, so it looks like we just have to get used to holidaying in Shellharbour; and I must say that neither of us have ever been dissatisfied with this area, we love it and now the grand children are here, I don’t think I’d be able to drag my wife away from them anyway (or myself) even if we could do an Australia wide trip now. So I say good luck to those who can manage it as there are some wonderful things to see in this great country of ours and I’m sure it would be a great experience.
As for your wonderful garden Sue, I think once a gardener always a gardener and even if you do leave it all behind and sell up or whatever, I’m sure when you return you’ll eventually get bitten by the Brom Bug again. If you should have plants you don’t want to part with, I’m sure I could find room to “plant sit” a couple of your special one’s for you until you return. Anyway the offer is there if you so desire.
Great pic’s Sue, especially the first Alcantarea. What a great unusual colour, I’ve never seen one that rusty colour before. I think we are just now seeing the tip of the iceberg as far as Alcantareas are concerned, and they’re just going to get better and better, just like the foliage vrieseas have done over the past few years. Also your pic of the seed germinating within the cup of the Morris Henry Hobbs; that’s certainly a bit unusual. While I’m talking about it, can I please have your permission to reproduce it in a future article I intend to write about growing brom seeds? (You of course would be given the photographic credit for the pic) Also your “Tigers” make quite a show, I love ‘em, but unfortunately now I’m taking that bloody awful “Warfarin”, I have to keep clear of the spikes otherwise I bleed all over the place. I do have a beaut pair of gloves though which I bought from Bunnings, and they come right up to my armpits and protect the whole arm but unfortunately I never remember to put them on until the blood’s running down my arms.
Karen – Pleased to hear you doctor’s appointment went well, seems like the doctor was pleased with your progress. To answer your question about my angiogram yesterday, it all went well and the cardiologist said I had a pretty good heart for an old bloke with only one blockage in a very small minor artery which he didn’t think significant enough to warrant surgical intervention and said we would try medications at this stage. Although I’m extremely happy with the result, unfortunately it didn’t identify any cause for my leg and feet swelling, but it did rule out congestive heart failure which is what he had initially suspected as the cause so I’m very grateful for that.
Colleen – Wow! What can I say except that you are now definitely going to need to extend your shade house as they get bigger. They are beautiful plants, but when grown in large numbers they do take up a lot of space. I’ll be very interested to see what the colour of the pink one develops into and you’ll definitely have to post some more pic’s when they’re a bit older.
Pardon my ignorance, but what are these “Epis” that you all keep talking about? Are they a type of succulent or cactus or some other weird plant I’ve never seen? I know this is a brom forum, but what about a pic so I know what you’re all talking about?
Shirley – Yes the angiogram went well as I explained above which is more than I can say for the computer which is getting slower each day. I find now I can only have one internet window open at a time and when I go to open a second one, it just doesn’t respond and I have to close it down and start again and I can tell you it’s a real pain in the arse. I too just have a small 15” screen and I find it’s great for me. My sun-in-law has this bloody great screen and it looks like watching a movie on a large theatre screen and I imagine it wouldn’t do your eyes much good either.
What you say about new computers is very true, the things you don’t need are included in the package and the other things you do need are optional extras (just like buying a new car) where you have to pay for the extras. Any free programmes which are included in a “package” are usually programmes you’ll never use anyway. Be careful when you buy a new programme and have it installed; make sure that they give you the programme discs as well as installing it. A lot of these programmes can only be installed a limited number of times from the disc so you need it in case your computer crashes in the future and you need to re-install it. Some of these technicians keep the disc after they install it so they can install it on someone else’s computer and charge them for what is really your programme. Good for them but not so god for you!
Anyway, that’s it from me today, off to breakfast now and then to watch the Anzac march on telly. So now a few more pic’s to finish. Pic 1 is a nice shaped little Neo called Kay Jay, Pic. 2 is just a random group of neo's, Pic.3 shows a few pups I planted out a few months back so they'll be ready for sale at the next meeting, Pic. 4 is the nice little Neo Purple Star just starting to colour up, Pic. 5 is a couple of "Billys"; on the left is one of the seedlings, Bill. Fred Red x Bill. Hallelujah and the one on the right is Bill, Fascinator.
Nev, I dont post here much , but always come in to read all the chat. I love my broms but am not as into them them as all of you.
I had to laugh at your question re what are epis ...
I have over 400 of them.
Epiphyllum or orchid cactus. Various shapes & sizes of plants & flowers .. blooms can be over 8"across.
Get yourself one and you will find that epi addiction can be a bad as brom addiction.
I was lucky enough to buy my collection very cheaply as the old lady just wanted them to got to a good home.
Luckily I have other plants to stop me getting to carried away with one sort. ..
( 200 bearded iris, 80 zygos, over 100 brugmansias, plus umpteen other plants that seem to find their way here )...lol
Heres a pic to give you a taste. Sorry to put it in your brom thread but I always like to encourage someones plant addiction.
Oh Jean, that could spark off an epidemic of epi pics. You know how much I love them, though I don't have one quarter of what you have. No more room as they do tend to use up space. I'm showing off my favourite pic, "Clown", but even this doesn't begin to give Nev any idea of the range of beautiful epiphyllums available.
Nev, glad your heart is OK, but sad they didn't find the problem with your legs. There has to be something causing it. Again, lovely colours and pics. Bill. Hallelujah is definitely a must for all collectors.
Shirley, I'm with you on the screen sizes. Too small is no good at all, but neither is too big. As Nev says, even TV screens need a proper theatre these days to view safely. With the volume of music and the oversizing of screens, I fear our kids are going to be deaf and blind in the future.
Well, here are the pics. First I am sneaking in a pic of Epiphyllum "Clown". The others are pics I took at the BSQ show last weekend. Some real beauties in that lot. Only got the name of the one in the last pic - Ae. Roberto Menescal. The others I don't know.
The epiphyllum flowers are beautiful but if I am thinking of the right cactus, it flowers only once a year and the bloom lasts only a single day/night.
Karen, the vriesea is Rose Star (I read the tag in the centre) and the neo looks like one on my wish list called 'Yang' ... an awesome looking plant. The broms in your photos are all lovely and yes ... I want them all.
Shirley, the Epis do only flower once a year but the flowers on mine last for some time. They have many flowers when they get big enough and come in many different colours. Will put a pic of my best one from last October. Some lovely brom pics everyone. Nev I'm so glad that your heart is okay, but now the problem of what is causing the swelling? Process of elimination perhaps? Good to see you in here Jean. Karen lovely pics from the show. I like the broms with the spines too especially the black spines against the green/grey. I think they look lovely. My arms don't like them much though and I don't like what they do when I get in the shower after a day of working with them. ouch. Here's a pic of my epi from last year. Colleen
Beautiful blooms Colleen. Are they fragrant? Mine is the old time night blooming Epiphyllum. The blooms smell wonderful at night. The plants become so monstrous that they are unmanageable and boring until they bloom.
Still hanging with y'all and loving the bromeliad photos and information. I don't always get time to do more than read.
Wishing all of you better health and a mild winter. My meager brom collection has been moved out of the greenhouse and I'm watching them closely to make sure they are suited to their new locations. I'm noticing some pretty colors and will try to take a photo or two.
Epiphyllum ~ wishing you could smell this bloom! Kristi
Hi all. I'm having computer problems at the moment. Can't access games and everything else is taking so long to load. not sure I want to click on any of your pics as it would take so long to open the pic and then so long to close it also. I did take a look at some pics though. Nev I love your seedling bill fred red x hallelujah. is it as sun tolerant as hallelujah? I would love a pup of that one with my next parcel whenever that is.
Kristi, Karen and Colleen I also love the epis. Colleen we've had a red one like yours for a number of years. the flower is the size of a dinner plate. We didn't know till recently that they were epis though. I'd seen people referring to epis but didn't know what they were till I was at Catlan's one day and Genny was cutting them up and potting them. Of course I got some pieces from her and all but one took. The best double pink one was the one I lost. I've since got some more from another lady. Unfortunately when collecting the pieces she just cut them off and held them in her arms and didn't even think about recording which was which so now I have pots growing and waiting for flowering to see what I have. LOL. Karen I really love the one you posted - clown was it??? very nice and krisi I love your white one too. I think epis and broms go well together so I can't see a problemwith an epi pic here and there. LOL
Must be off to bed now. But better try to access a couple more things first ... like paying bloody bills. probably freeze up many times before I succeed. Pic is one of my favourite bills called sugar and spice.
Hi all. I'm having computer problems at the moment. Can't access games and everything else is taking so long to load. not sure I want to click on any of your pics as it would take so long to open the pic and then so long to close it also. I did take a look at some pics though. Nev I love your seedling bill fred red x hallelujah. is it as sun tolerant as hallelujah? I would love a pup of that one with my next parcel whenever that is.
Kristi, Karen and Colleen I also love the epis. Colleen we've had a red one like yours for a number of years. the flower is the size of a dinner plate. We didn't know till recently that they were epis though. I'd seen people referring to epis but didn't know what they were till I was at Catlan's one day and Genny was cutting them up and potting them. Of course I got some pieces from her and all but one took. The best double pink one was the one I lost. I've since got some more from another lady. Unfortunately when collecting the pieces she just cut them off and held them in her arms and didn't even think about recording which was which so now I have pots growing and waiting for flowering to see what I have. LOL. Karen I really love the one you posted - clown was it??? very nice and krisi I love your white one too. I think epis and broms go well together so I can't see a problemwith an epi pic here and there. LOL
Must be off to bed now. But better try to access a couple more things first ... like paying bloody bills. probably freeze up many times before I succeed.
I have spent hours trying to figure out how to download my photos, how to find them once downloaded, how to resize them, etc etc. I knew what I was doing with my old computer but nothing is the same with the new one and I keep getting the message ‘not compatible with this system’ … I WANT MY OLD COMPUTER BACK!!!
With any luck, I have attached photos of the broms I purchased at the market on the weekend. As I said earlier, none of them had names. I think the first one could be neo Raphael, the other three are a mystery but I thought they were nice and I must admit to still being at the stage that I just want to add more and more to my collection … I haven’t reached the stage yet where I can resist any pretty brom, especially neos.
Well here goes, not really sure if this is going to work or not. If the photos turn out (three med-large neos and one mini) and anyone can give them a name, that would be great, thanks.
It’s getting late and I’m almost ready to embrace the old laptop again, so I had better get off to bed.
I am so pleased to see it worked ... it took so long to prepare and then such a long time to appear after sending that I was sure I was going to lose it. Now I just have to figure out how I did it. Anyway, much happier now.
Karen, Colleen, Kristi, love the pics of the epis. Colleen, I didn't know they got multiple blooms like that lovely one of yours ... I only ever had a couple of them and its many years ago but I think they only ever got one, maybe two blooms and I am sure they lasted only a day.
Wendy, sorry to hear you are also having computer problems ... sounds like an epidemic. Hope its only temporary and yours too Nev.
Anyway, this time I am off to bed ... past midnight again.
... forgot to mention ... pic no 4 is a mini neo and it's actually much brighter than it appears in the photo.
Hi everyone – Well it's forecast to be fine and sunny here this morning, and much better now that the freezing south west wind has dropped, although it has brought the temperatures down. It was only five degrees here when I got up at 4.30 this morning so it looks like the cooler temperatures are on the way.
Jean – Thanks to you and the other girls for wising me up to what an “Epi” is. They are really beautiful flowers and make a spectacular show. How long do the flowers last and are they all fragrant or just the odd one (like some brom’s).
It’s a pity I don’t live closer as I’ll bet your garden looks a picture and would be well worth a visit; as for the “Epis”, I can see how easily it would be to get “hooked” on them; in much the same way as I got hooked on the brom’s.
Karen – Yes I have to agree with you, Hallelujah is definitely one of the “all time” great Billbergia hybrids as well as a very good parent. I read an article in one of the Brom Society magazines about a cross that was done between Bill ‘Hallelujah’ and Bill. ‘Golden Joy’ and the writer said that the colours of the seedlings were just magnificent with the spotting of Hallelujah and the soft golden tones of the Golden Joy combining to make a wonderful spectacle.
That’s a great looking lot of pic’s you’ve posted and the Vriesea ‘Rose Star’ is a “eye full” with its beautiful pink colouring, I’ll bet Colleen’s mouth is watering and she’s hoping her pink one will look like this on maturity, and I have to say what a beautiful colour combination the flower of you Epi. ‘Clown’ has.
Shirley – It’s always good to go to brom shows and see what’s new as well as unusual; but unfortunately the really good ones that win the major prizes are usually the real pricey ones and ones that we can only dream about. But it does let us see what’s new since the previous year and there are always bargains to be had on the sales tables.
Colleen – That’s Epi is really quite a spectacle and would have really been very easy on the eyes.
What you say about the problem with my legs and feet is correct, “process of elimination”, the only trouble is, we have just about eliminated everything with all of the tests I’ve had and still haven’t identified the cause!
I have to agree with you about the prickly brom’s. Some of the spines can look quite attractive when they are dark and against a light background, but it doesn’t make them any less vicious, and they can really make a mess of your arms and some of them could really cause a nasty injury if they were to stick in your eye. One really vicious one that comes to mind is, Ae. Distichantha and although it has a beautiful inflorescence of flowers, the end of the leaves on this are like a spear and can penetrate almost anything, very, very nasty! I have a friend who collects a lot of these really spiky ones and has them in a separate garden called her “Lacerator Garden” which is an appropriate name as they do cause a lot of lacerations.
Kristi – Nice to hear from you again and it’s good to know you’re still enjoying our posts and pic’s.
That’s a nice Epiphyllum flower and combined with a perfume must really be something special.
Wendy – I don’t know just how much light or sun the Hallelujah x Fred Red seedling will take as I currently have it beneath 75% beige shade cloth and as I only have the one plant, and I haven’t tried it anywhere else at this stage. It will be a while yet before there will be any pups available from this one also, as I want to grow it into a nice large specimen plant after I take off the first pup so I have a spare.
Wendy you say that Epi’s and brom’s go well together and you can’t see a problem with an Epi pic here or there; well Orchids, Anthirriums, Caladiums, ferns, Cyclamens and other plants go well with brom’s also, and if we start putting up the occasional pic of them as well, we will finish up with just a general garden forum. I know it’s my fault, I started it and I probably shouldn’t have asked “what an Epi was” in the first place, as I seem to have started something.
Shirley – It seems to me you have the “pic posting” now sorted out on your new computer so just keep at it; they say that “persistence beats resistance” and I’m sure you’ll master it all in the end.
You say you haven’t reached the stage yet where you can resist any pretty brom, especially Neo’s, well I don’t think it’s any different for any of us. I know that even though I now have a couple of thousand (or more) brom’s, I still can’t resist a nice one that I don’t have, and like you, it’s especially Neo’s which are my favourites. This is all part of the effects of the “bromeliaditis” disease.
As for identifying the plants in your pictures, it’s extremely difficult as there are now just so many medium sized variegated Neo’s about that all look alike, and without being an expert and knowing what finer points to look for I’m afraid I can’t be of much help. However the miniature Neo. I think is one called Neo. ‘Zoe’. It’s is a Chester Skotak hybrid which is a cross between Fireball as the seed parent and an unknown pollen parent. If it’s grown in more light the whole plant will be the colour of the top middle leaf and if grown in lower light it will be the colour of the green lower leaves. Whatever their names are, they are still all nice looking Neo’s and I wouldn’t say no to any of them if I’d seen them for sale at the markets either.
Anyway, that’s it from me today, so now a few pic’s to finish off; and today it's pic's of five of my Bilbergias. Unfortunatelu I don't have the pic's named but if anyone wants to know a name I can easily go and have a look as I don't remember them all; CRAFT disease you know.
Morning all. Nippee... who turned the heater off? Nev, even with all these pics, they barely show the incredible range of colours of the epiphyllums. No, we won't get carried away with pics. Just wanted to show a little bit of what they are. Colleen's red is one of the most beautiful plants I've ever seen, and deserves to be shown off. I think there is an epiphyllum thread on this forum and that is where we usually post our pics.
Now, where to start. Shirley, yes, I had read the Rose Star tag, but didn't want to repeat myself :). You are right, the epi season only lasts a couple of months, or less, then you wait a year before it starts again. But so spectacular, its worth the wait. Those are beautiful broms you've posted.
On FB someone said that one of those broms from the show sold for about $800. Not sure which one, but they are all out of my price range anyway.
Kristi, I know the name of that epi but my mind has gone blank this morning. So cold. The night blooming ones are the best for perfume. My Oxypettalum had 8 flowers open in one night, and the perfume was intoxicating.
Jean, I don't have a lot of plants but I have enough diversity to keep me smiling (or fussing) all year through. That is a very pretty epi of yours. I hope they survive the cold winters there. Guess they must.
Wendy, check your usage on your server page. Both my sister and I are with different servers, yet we both had problems this month. Mine turned out that the server was having internal issues and clocked me up 17 gigs in just one day. Its taken me to the limit of my allowance, which means I am slowed down, dramatically. As bad as being on dial up. I have been credited the usage but it won't show until next month's usage starts. Luckily, today is the last day. My new month starts at midnight tonight. Some downloads time out because they are too slow in this mode.
Nev, I have billbergia seedlings coming along and some are looking quite promising. I hope to have unusual and beautiful from them, though I can expect a few duds too.
Lets see what I can find in the file today. I've been taking some new pics and have also been finding new information thanks to Nev. So the first is a pic of Neo. Perfection that I posted earlier. This one shows its glorious colours to, um, perfection?
The next is the closest to a black bill. that I've ever seen. Yet the pup is so green. I am assured though that it will turn black on maturing. This is a B. Sixpence seedling.
Next is Vr. Evita from Nev himself. It has settled in well Nev and looking perky again.
And last is my Vr. Kiwi Sunset. This will lose its colour again over winter, unfortunately, but this pics shows it will colour up again. This will be its second winter at my place.
it certainly has turned cold here … we were saying only a couple of days ago how nice and warm it has been considering it is late April and now, sooo cold … I think Nev’s freezing wind has found its’ way up here.
Thanks Nev for the ID on the neo mini Zoe, I will make sure it gets plenty of light. Thanks too for the lovely plants, my parcel arrived today.
Karen, love your vriesea pics … they are beautiful. You know Karen, you could leave them with me for the winter so they don’t lose their colour and I would return them to you for the summer … honest :-) My broms colour up better over winter as they need less protection and get lovely morning sunlight.
Anyway, I am determined to have an early night tonight … mind you it’s already going on 11:00 pm, so I’ll call it a night.
Hi everyone – Well it looks like the colder weather is here. It was very cold over night here and there is another cold fine day forecast for today.
Karen – You mention the high price of a brom at the show. Yes this is probably true, but it’s also probably true that it was a first ever pup from a champion or very rare plant as this is what dictates the price. Some of the foliage leafed Vrieseas can also be very pricy especially when they are seedlings. Because they are unique and “one offs” you’re paying for the fact that you are the only person who will own it (until you of course sell a pup from it); it’s special and it’s expensive.
You also need to consider that with seedlings, the hybridizer has possibly spent years developing that particular breeding line and he/she needs to get some reimbursement for all of their work, because they may have to grow and cull many hundreds of plants, (even thousands) before they get one of that high value.
Unfortunately it puts plants like this out of reach of most of us, but to look to the future and on the bright side, unlike most things, the cost of these plants will eventually come down and not go up like everything else and you can look forward to owning one eventually.
As you say about your Billbergia seedlings, you hope to have some unusual and beautiful ones but possibly some “duds” as well. This happens with seedlings and as I often say to people, buying seedlings is a bit like buying a lottery ticket; you pay a “little” for the chance of getting something of high value but also run the chance of getting something that’s not much good. The bright side is that with the improved quality of seedlings now being made available, the chances of getting something good are greater than they were in the past.
Your pic’s are nice with the ever popular Neo Perfection showing off its colours. The Bill. ‘Sixpence’ I must say I’ve never heard of, and it’s not registered, but it’s certainly very dark and close to black. Do you know who bred it or what the parents were? Vr. Evita is not a foliage type vriesea but one that is grown for the colour, it is a beautiful thing and although the flowers only last a day, the colourful paddles last for months. The leaves of this plant will vary depending on the amount of light it receives and will be green in low light right through to a light purplish colour with high light. Finally, the beautiful Kiwi ‘Sunset’ which is always popular with growers everywhere.
Shirley – That’s a very generous offer you made to Karen to mind her plants for her. I wonder why she won’t take you up on it. I’m pleased your plants arrived safely and I hope you get a lot of pleasure out of growing them.
Anyway, that’s it from me today, so now a few pic’s to finish off with. Pic 1 is Vr. Evita, just to show Karen what her plant will look like when it flowers, Pic 2 is Neo Cruenta ‘Broad Leaf’ a nice Neo but quite large and really not suitable for a pot, better in the garden, Pic. 3 is another large garden plant, Ae Pectinata, Pic.4 is the brilliant red flower head of Canistrum Fosterianum and Pic 5 shows the inflorescence of a slightly different coloured "match stick" brom, Ae Gamosepala 'Pink and Green'; the pic doesn't clearly show it, but the flowers are an unusual very pale shade of green
Hi everyone. It looks as though we will be on the look out for "Red Fred" doesn't it. Imagine having a few of them around the SH. Certainly would give a nice colour. I have to get out in the SH house today, I've been saying that for about a month now. The pond has some Alocasias that have outgrown their place and I need to thin them out. Trouble is there are some yabbies and a couple of fish in there and I don't like disturbing them so I've been putting the job off. Neo perfection is lovely Karen. and I do like Bil sixpence too. My Tim Ploughman has just been sitting there sulking for well over a year now. Will it ever do anything? I hope everyone is well this morning and you all have a great day. Must get the boys up. Colleen
Good morning. Its raining here. And I need to go out in it, UGH! Cold too. Oh well, you get days like that, don't you.
Shirley, that is very kind of you to offer to baby sit my plants. Will give it some hard thought.
Nev, I do understand the processes and time involved in getting a new champion. This is why I love going to the shows as you see such stunning plants that you would never see otherwise. I still have the pics you sent with Evita, and can't wait for the flower. Bill. Sixpence is a Catlan plant and no, they don't register them. I have another Sixpence seedling that is totally different, green with white splotchy dots. I fear there may be some name tags got put in wrong pots over the years at Catlans, so the black sixpence could well be something else, or crossed with another much stronger parent. I've always been drawn to Ae Pectinata, but the size deters me. I have a few broms now that will grow large, and I don't really want more due to space problems.
Colleen, that's a beauty you've pictured there.
Bree, I've been coming across Reverse Ensign a bit lately. Wonder if its a hint to buy one?
This first pic was sold to me as a Gespacho pup. Will it get bands as it matures or have I got a dud? And 2 is the small but cute Neo Chiquita Linda starting to colour up. 3 is my original Cryptanthus. It began as two single pieces, and has done nothing but grow and grow.
Karen the billbergia seedlings from Catlans should actually be called cv of sixpense or cv of helen of troy etc as they are just that seedlings from a single plant and as we all know with seedlings you get a whole range of different plants from one single pod of seed. When Jen and I go to Catlans we purposely pick a range of patterns in billbergias all with same cv names. I love seeing what they will turn out to be. Mine are finally starting to colour up after I used fertiliser when potting them up. It has taken 12 to 18 months to work out of them. So a word of warning to all the newbies ... don't use fertiliser on billbergias (except when seedlings I guess to hurry along the growth).
I love all the pics but Karen I agree that that first one is probably not gespacho. Gespacho gets a whitish throat on maturity.
Nev I was going to send you seed of vr evita as found the flower spike today covered in a halo of seed popping. Let me know if you want some of it for your young ones. I will get a parcel of seed ready to send on Monday.
I can't take any more photos for a few days till I get to a store to buy a new memory card for the camera. I did something to mine last night after downloading the latest pics. When I removed it from the computer there was a loud click and when it was back in the camera it wouldn't pic up that there was a memory card at all. Now it won't work in the camera or the computer. So whatever theclick was it stuffed it. Ah well at least the pics were downloaded and I think I remembered what the pics were of as I can't hear the names when viewing the pics on the camera.
Must be off to bed as we are moving furniture tomorrow then I'll have the girls for a sleepover tomorrow night so a busy day tomorrow.
Hi everyone – Well we had a nice warm day yesterday after all; seems the weather report isn’t always right, although I must say they are better now than they were a few years ago.
Colleen – Yes Colleen, the Fred Red seedlings is nice and now I wish I’d bought a few more of them but I just bought a mixed dozen and out of them about eight are worth keeping, so I didn’t do too badly.
It’s always a bit of a worry when you have to thin out plants in a pond. I’m always concerned I’m going to kill tadpoles, but I found the easiest way is to do it on a more regular basis while you can still see what’s in the water and before it’s all covered in a tangle of roots. I imagine having fish and yabbies in the pond as well, makes the task even harder for you. One thing is for sure though, it won’t get any easier so you’ll just have to “grin and bear it” and hope for the best.
That’s a very nice Vriesea in the pic you’ve posted. What is the name?
With your Tim Ploughman, I think if it was my plant I’d be pulling it out of the pot to see what’s happening in the potting mix. There could be a number of reasons for it “sulking” and as the weather hasn’t been too cold yet I don’t think the cold would be one of them.
Is the plant in the same pot and mix as it was when you bought it? If in doubt I always check the mix, it could have some “curl grubs” in it or “root mealy bug”, especially if it’s sitting on the ground. Whenever I buy or swap a new plant, I always re-pot it in my own mix. The reason is that you don’t know what you are bringing into your collection. Most growers always inspect the leaves closely on a new plant to see if there are any signs of disease or insects present, but how many of us check below the surface? You could be unknowingly importing pests into your collection in the potting mix without being aware of it. Personally I’d take it out of the pot, remove the potting mix and re-pot it with fresh mix. To find out more about the two pests I've mentioned, check out the two sites below: http://www.yates.com.au/problem-solver/problems/curl-grubs/ http://www.bonsaimary.com/mealy-bugs.html
Karen – Your first pic definitely isn’t Neo. Gespachio, I’ll post a pic of one and although it is immature, you can still see the colour is very different. The lighter part of the leaf colouring does vary from plant to plant but it is always there.
At present, bromeliad names are in what I believe is a totally confusing state. Bill. Sixpence is an example of why this problem will only get worse. When a batch of seed is grown, it is no longer acceptable to give the whole grex (all of the seedlings from that sowing) the same name as they once did.
The purpose of giving a plant a name is so that it has an identity of its own to distinguish it from others. From what you and others have said here, quite a few of you have plants called Bill. ‘Sixpence’ and all are different; so what is the purpose of giving these plants all the same name?
The only real way to differentiate them in this case is to give them their own varietal name and in this case it would be Bill Sixpence var. Karen, Wendy, Jen or any other name you see fit. This will identify them as a particular plant. However there is another problem now and that is that two different growers could give a plant the same cultivar name, and once again there is confusion. This is why there is now an international register of names where only one name for each cultivated variety can be registered and it is now registered just as that; the cultivar name, and there is no grex name registered with it.
If a batch of seed is grown from a plant and you don’t know the name of the pollen parent, the responsible thing is to give each individual plant a number. If for instance the seed parent was Bill ‘Hallelujah’ and the pollen parent wasn’t known the names could be written as #001 Bill ‘Hallelujah” x ?, #002 Bill ‘Hallelujah” x ?, #003 Bill ‘Hallelujah” x ? and so on. This tells the buyer that the seed parent was Bill. ‘Hallelujah’ and the pollen parent is unknown, but more importantly a different number gives each of these seedlings an individual identity.
Once you buy one of these plants and you consider it worthy of a name, then you may register it and it finishes up as Bill (‘whatever name you chose’). The grex name and number are no longer required as that plant now has a unique name so it cannot be confused or duplicated with others from the same grex.
The problem lies however with the individual breeders, some of which who don’t register their plants (and that is their prerogative) but worse still they release these seedlings for sale all under the one name without a separate number to give them each a unique identity.
The little Neo Chiquita ‘Linda’ in your pic’s is one of the very small Neo’s and is a cross between Neo. Lilliputiana crossed with Neo Fireball. One of its main attractive features is the nice pale blue/purple flowers that sit well up out of the cup (See Pic. 2).
Your little Cryptanthus is really a “picture” as they all are when allowed to clump up. This is in my opinion the best way to show them off to their full advantage. I don't think there's anything more eye catching than a nice full pot of Cryptanthus
Breeindy – I’ve had several plants of Reverse Ensign but never did any good with them, they just went back and back and eventually died. I just put it down to the fact that they didn’t like the salt air where I live and decided enough was enough. Last year however I was fortunate to swap a plant from Tash and it’s never looked back, so now I suspect that my original plants were from a weak clone, although the chap I got them from grew them well; so maybe a combination of a weak clone and a dislike of salt air, who knows?
Wendy – What you say about calling seedlings cvs of the parent is another way of doing what I was trying to explain, but they would still all need a separate number as well to differentiate one from the other and those numbers need to be issued initially by the breeder to each of the seedlings in the batch so the whole batch is numbered before they are sold so each plant has a separate identity.
Some people say it’s a lot of garbage and why can’t we just call the plant whatever we want to? That’s fine while ever it’s in our yards, but once it is swapped or sold that’s where the trouble starts as it will now be able to get mixed up with other plants that have possibly even been given the same name. To sum up this naming quandary I would say it’s one “big can of worms”.
As for the Evita seed, yes please; I’ll take whatever you can spare, it will all get distributed.
Wendy I didn’t realise that with some cameras you had to take out the memory card and put it in the computer to load the pic’s, with mine I just link the camera to the computer with a cable and switch on the camera and the down load is done automatically. In fact until looked just now I didn’t even know where to find the memory card, but now see it is in there beside the battery. Never too old to learn! I guess cameras are a bit similar to computers and cars; they’re all great while they’re working.
Anyway, that’s it from me today, so now a few pic’s to finish off with. Pic 1 is for Karen and is Neo Gespacho sometimes spelled ('Gespacio'), Pic 2 shows just how high the Neo Chiquita ‘Linda’ flower grows, Pic 3 shows a nice little Vriesea species called Vr. Carinata and how attractive it looks when grown into a clump. Pic 4 is Neo Bird Rock with its unusual leaf markings and Pic 5 is a side view of Neo Camelot.
Just to let you know, my moniter is playing up. Not something I can replace overnight, so if I disappear, you know its gone. Too crazy to try posting etc. See what Barry says when he gets here later.
I think this is my Gespacho, i love yours Nev. I 'll send you a pup of my Reverse Ensign when it pups if you'd like to try with another. Ill let you know how mine goes because i'd probably get salt air here where i live. I don't live on the beach but close to a river that comes in from the sea not very far away.
I love bird rock and Camelot!
nothing much happening here today with all the rain ... it just hasn't stopped all day. I had hoped to get down to the flea market this morning but I doubt there would have been anyone else there.
I have spent practically the whole day trying to sort out the stuff that I had on my external harddrive back up when my computer crashed and copy what I need across to the new one. Very time consuming, especially with some 5000 photos that somehow got mixed up into the wrong folders. I know I should not keep them on the internal harddrive because they slow it up and I will have to put them on to a USB stick.
Nev, I read the article on the curl grubs. A little while back, I had them in one of my aloe plants which was not looking very happy and when I emptied the mix from the pot there were so many grubs in there I just could not believe it. I have seen those black wasps flying about amongst my potted plants … are they the egg laying culprits for these curl grubs?
Karen, I bought a new monitor at a very reasonable price from a place at Brendale called MSY. They have a few other outlets including one at Slacks Creek and Morningside. I found them to be much cheaper than anywhere else. I haven't got it set up yet but it's here ready to go 'cos this one is gradually going black from the top down.
Wendy, hope you get your new memory card soon so you can post more pics. They’re not cheap either are they, though not nearly as expensive as they used to be a few years ago.
I will attach a pic of my little gespacho pup and another which I bought as ‘geisha girl’ which it is not. If anyone knows what it should be called, I would love to know.
Well, that’s about it for me today, hopefully this rain will clear away tomorrow.
Hi everyone. Been a beautiful day here again. I have something to share with you all. Now I don't know if this is common or not but I think it's pretty good. My Neo. Ganesh Gold has thrown 3 pups and one of them is variegated. Thanks Nev for the info about why Tim Ploughman is sulking. I was told not to take the first pup off, just leave it til there's 2 otherwise the mother will sulk. I didn't get around to repotting it today but will do so tomorrow. Nev your Camelot is beautiful. How big is it? Mine's only small at the moment but looking good. Well. I'll put a couple of pics up of Ganesh Gold for you to see. By the way the last pic I put up was Vr. Platenema. nice hey? I've had that one for about a year now. Colleen
Wow Colleen you have a sport on ganesh gold. when it is big enough take it off and raise it. If it throwsvariegated pups you have a new sport you can name and register. You will need to include the photo of the variegated pup on the mother plant to prove it was attached and is indeed a sport. hope it retains the variegation or albomargination. I look forward to future pics as it matures.
My computer is working fine tonight so I guess those 4 DORA games for Emily put me over the limit of download and hence the slowdown till month ended. anyway I'm back to normal tonight and able to access games and open pics etc.
Nev my last computer I had to plug in a cable to download pics but now my new computer has the media slots so I can simply plug in the memory card to download the pics. I find it is easier to download them this way. Anyway I will have to get to Harvey Norman tomorrow and pic up another one. I'd love to get a 32g one but they are over $100. Imagine how many pics I could have on there? I jsut wish we could save them to folders on the camera for easier searching. ah well at least when I download I can sort.
The pic I posted this time is mini neo satsuma showing 2 plants. on left is one grown in high light up close to shadecloth and on right is one grown under the stairs in shade. I keep these growing like that to show the different colours achieved in different growing conditions.
I'm sick of the rain and cold already. wish it would get warm again. I hate being cold and wet as I was all day today. We grabbed hot chips on the way home from moving furniture to Dayboro for our son. We'll probably never see Emily & Rylee now they are on opposite side of Brisbane. Poor Chris having to travel across the city to get to work each day. But it was a truly lovely place they moved into. It is Jess' mum's place. 1.5 acres with terrased yard and lots of poincianas screaming out for epiphytic broms on their branches and gardens of broms underneath. Johnny wanted to move in. On a downside we had to pass so many little creeks already flowing with heavy rain. I think they would be flooded in quite easy so we'll wait and see.
Hi everyone – Another nice warm day yesterday and today’s shaping up to be the same so hopefully I can get more done in the shade houses. I’ve finally got everything in my Neo Shade House recorded and now I can see in an instant how many of each plant I have and how many are available to sell or swap. With a bit of “list tweaking” I will also be able to quickly locate any plants I want. So I’m pretty pleased with myself that I’m finally making a bit of progress, even if it is slow.
Breeindy – I’m not real sure about your Neo. Camelot in the pic, I know the pattern on this plant does vary, but there’s something about your plant that looks a bit like Neo Break of Day. What do you other members think? Anyway when it’s mature we’ll know for sure and even if it is Neo. Break of Day, that’s a beautiful little plant and one of my all time favourites although it doesn’t grow as large as Camelot.
As for Neo. Bird Rock, I like it mainly due to the silvery pattern on the reverse of the leaves but I find it’s a bit of a slow grower in my conditions; maybe it doesn’t like the cold winters.
Shirley – I see you’re using the brom grower’s best friend, (Chopsticks) as stakes for your pup. I find they’re great and save them for use on my larger pups and use bamboo kebab skewers for the smaller ones. I previously just used them on pups that didn’t seem too firm in the pot, but now I stake all new pups and find I get quicker root growth. I've found that sometimes, after a while the new mix if it's not packed in really firmly, will sometimes allow new pups to move and it’s a fact that a pup won’t put down roots if it is allowed to move.
I don’t think there’s any doubt that the pup you bought as Neo ‘Geisha Girl’ is not true to name but to me it looks like you got an even better buy for your money, even if it is a NOID at this stage. It certainly has a bit of nice shape about it and those concentric bands across the leaves suggest there is a strong Neo Concentrica influence in the breeding lines and I for one would be very interested to see it when it matures as I think you may have got a “winner” there .
As for the Black Wasps being the egg laying culprits of the Curl Grubs, the answer is no. These are the larvae of the black scarab beetle and I’ll post a couple of pics of them both for all to see and easily identify
Colleen – I don’t know Neo ‘Ganesh Gold’ and I think I can safely say it isn’t grown in our area; I can’t find it on the BCR or the FCBS either so it’s difficult to say where the variegation came from. Often if you look at the records of the parent plants used in the breeding you can sometimes find a common factor that has produced variegated plants elsewhere in the past but as this one isn’t recorded we can’t do that. What do you know of its history, where did you get it from, and was it bred locally? If you may want to register it sometime down the track, you need to record as much information as you can about it and as Wendy says, takes pic’s of it attached to the mother plant as well as progressive pic’s as it matures.
There is still a long way to go though until you get to the registration stage, as first you need to make sure that it is “stable” i.e. it produces pups which also carry the variegations; often the next generation will just produces plain plants and that’s the end of the line for the variegated plant. Sometimes they will produce a variegated pup and a plain pup, and in these cases you destroy the plain one as soon as it’s obvious it doesn’t have the variegation thereby giving the plant more of a chance to produce more variegated plants. You don’t want to waste the energy of the mother plant producing worthless pups when you’re trying to stabilise the more valuable variegated ones. So fingers crossed that you’re on a winner in this case and a few years down the line you will be able to register it.
With your present plant with the three pups, I would take the plain pups off as soon as you think they are big enough to survive thereby providing more of the mother’s nourishment for the variegated pup as variegated plants are usually slower growers and can take all of the assistance they can get at this stage.
Tell the boys they need to smile and not look so serious while modelling with your plant. After all, one day they may be on the B.C.R for everyone in the world to see.
Anyway, I’m pleased for you Colleen as I know it’s very exciting to get something as special and unusual as this. I read once what the odds were of getting a variegated sport and they were unbelievable.
Wendy – It’s great that you posted the pic’s of the two Neo. Satsuma plants to show the differences influenced by varying degrees of light. I know I’m always preaching about good light producing good colours and sometimes when I tell people just how much the colour can vary, they just look at me in disbelief. Your picture demonstrates this perfectly; what is it they say about a picture being worth a thousand words? Can I have your permission to possibly reproduce it in an article about “The importance of Light” I am writing for our Brom society newsletter? I would certainly give you a “plug” as the owner/photographer.
Emily and Rylee’s new house sounds like a brom lover’s dream and a real “blank canvas”. Who knows they might even let you and Johnny be the “Honorary Landscapers”. Certainly a good place to use up your excess plants.
Anyway, that’s it from me today, so now a few pic’s to finish off with. Pic 1 is a “Curl Grub”; Pic 2 is the “Mummy” (Black Scarab Beetle) Pic.3 is the nice little mini Neo. Domino, Pic 4 is an interesting seedling I made a few years back and was a cross between Neo Concentrica (Compact Form) crossed with Neo Painted Lady. It is interesting to see it started out with some Painted Lady type markings on a few of the lower leaves and finished up being a variegated plant – It just goes to show, you never know what you’ll get with a hybrid seedling! Pic 5 is another very popular Neoregelia, Neo Apricot Nectar.
Nice garden mates there, Nev. I get the Rhino beetles here, but they've been a bit slow lately. Maybe just
too wet for them this time round. Love the neos. Actually, everyone has posted nice pics.
Well, Barry fixed the monitor - he just went out and bought a new one. How the other half live! Would
have taken me months to save for one. I don't do credit cards as I could too easily get into big trouble.
It is so good though to be back in action again.
Went to the markets this morning. Saw nothing I wanted to run off with though. It was a bit sparse,
probably due to the rains yesterday. On the way home we passed a very bad accident. Police had
blocked the main road (4 lanes) and ambulances were in attendance. Hope no one was too seriously
A ray of sunshine is peeping through finally so maybe tomorrow will be a nice day. Hope so.
1. A rhinoceros beetle in my yard.
2. We breed them big here - a large stick insect on the bonnet of the car.
3. Ae. Fulgens? Ae. Polyantha? Something else perhaps? Love the burgundy underside and flower.
Hello everyone, I have been away from the computer due to a death in the family, so haven't really had time to go over everything since I last visited, but having got a message from Colleen, I can at least comment on Ganesh Gold. I got my original plant from LeisaD, and I have googled it and asked around and no one has any info on this plant. Unfortunately I can no longer ask Leisa where she got it, but most likely in the Brisbane area. It may have been a pet name? Anyway, funny you should get a variegated pup Colleen, because I just noticed slight variegations in two pups also, but not nearly as pronounced as yours, so I wondered if it originally was a variegated plant, which threw NOVARS (no variegation) and these were onsold?
Anyway, I grow mine quite hard, in a bit of sun, so they are a very vibrant colour, which makes it harder to see the variegation, but I'll post a pick so you can see the colour in them. On flowering it is almost flourescent!
ps, after my last post I was logged out again, so it seems the DG gremlins are still about!
Wowee Sue. That is nothing like mine. I will have to put it in more light. I have taken the other 2 pups from it and we'll see what happens to the variegated one now. I put the pic up on FB in the brom site so maybe someone knows from up Leisa's way as they might have one too. Thanks for getting back to me Sue. I have moved most of my Vrieseas into the middle of the SH for the Winter as I would hate for them to get a bit of frost. I might also put some plastic sheets up down the south end to try to keep the warmth in. I cleaned, depupped and repotted a lot of plants today. The boys were happily playing with their trucks in the sand and enjoyed giving me a hand when I asked them to. I even had one with a pair of pliers undoing and straightening coathangers for me to hang some pots up. They also rolled a few palm stumps to the SH for me and I've put them along the back just behind the Reo to get a bit of height for some of the bigger plants. Boy have some of them grown. Will try to take some more pics tomorrow.. I have to tell someone other than the boys this. I got up this morning, put the jug on, switched the heater and the computer on, made my coffee and sat down to see who'd been in the Australian site, then I looked at the time on the computer. 2.15am!!!. I must have had a good few hours sleep because I thought it was time to get up. I finished up laying on the couch and was still there when 2 little boys poked their heads around the door and said," Good morning Granny, how come you sleeping on the couch?" lol Strange things go on in this house sometimes. Goodnight everyone. see you tomorrow at a decent time I hope. Colleen
Hi everyone – After telling you all that yesterday was shaping up to be another fine day down here, five minutes after breakfast it was raining. Anyway it gave me a good excuse to set myself up in the garage and get some more re-potting done. Slow and steady wins the race is what they say, so I reckon if I do a little each day, sooner or later I’ll get up to date with all of my re-potting.
Karen – Boy that Rhinoceros Beetle is really prehistoric looking; it looks like a cross between a common Black Beetle and an Armadillo. I’ve never seen one down here, how big do they grow?
By gee Barry’s is the sort of repairman you want; no mucking around, just go and replace it; job done!
Some of the Aechmeas similar to the one in your picture have the name “discolour” tagged on the end of the name e.g. Ae. Miniata ‘discolour’ to describe the burgundy and green colour of these leaves. There are quite a few that look similar to the one in your picture and a lot of them have beautiful (almost iridescent} coloured berries after the small bluish flowers die. Botanists tell us that the burgundy coloured underside of the leaves is to reflect more light as these plants and most of the burgundy coloured ones usually prefer to grow in very low light areas to maintain the shiny leaf colours. A word of warning though, most of them are cold sensitive and should be given protection in the colder months to prevent “cold-spotting” of the leaves. They are a plant that is well worth growing as the coloured berries remain in colour for many months and the leaves, especially the burgundy coloured ones are very attractive with their shiny surface.
Sue – Sorry to hear about the death in your family and please accept my condolences. It’s nice to hear from you again and to get that information on Colleen’s plant. That’s a remarkable difference when gown in the two different areas of light. Although the bright light fades the variegation, the colour is magnificent and then if grown in Colleen’s conditions, you lose the colour but gain the prominent variegations; I guess it’s a bit like having an “each-way bet”. From what you say it may be one of those plants that occasionally will produce a variegated pup due to a “confused” gene pool in the breeding line. To actually stabilise the variegations is a very time consuming process and often takes work over many generations to “fix” the variegations. Basically it entails growing the very best of each lot of pups and discarding any that don’t come up to scratch. I have friends (Nina and Jarka Rehak) who went down that path with Nidularium ‘Miranda’ and I think she said it took more than ten years to get good colour and variegation, but even now (many years later) it still throws the occasional “plain” pup. (See pic’s)
Colleen – I see you’re also doing a bit of re-potting so it seems like I’m not the only one that’s trying to “catch up”.
Looking at you pic’s I can see that your shade house is getting pretty full and it’s good to see that you at least have a couple of willing little helpers to assist you, and they’re just at the right age to try and encourage them to become interested in brom’s. Who knows? Brom growers of the future?
You mention putting up some plastic sheeting to keep the warmth in and the frost out. I have a friend in N.Z. who has successfully used plastic bubble wrap for insulation purposes on the inside of his green house. He said the insulation qualities are much better than he expected and work just as well against the heat as well as the cold. So if your set up lends itself to this type of thing it may well be worth considering. Finally, don’t go getting up again without first looking at the clock!
Anyway, that’s it from me today, and now a few pic’s to finish off with. Pic 1 is Ae. 'Mirlo' which shows the dark colour and shiny leaves which are possible when grown in low light. Pic 2 is Ae. Chianti 'Jean' showing lighter colouring when grown in medium light. This is a very fast growing plant and a prolific “pupper”. It is well worth growing because as well as the nice burgundy coloured leaves, the red berries remain for many months. Pic 3 Is of a plant owned by my very good friends Jarka and Nina Rehak of Miranda N.S.W. The picture were taken by Jarka and shows Nidularium ‘Miranda’ which even after many years of work to stabilise the variegation will still sometimes produce a plain green pup (left side). Pic.4 is Neo. Rosea Striata and Pic. 5 is Neo. ‘Allan’s Marbles’ which is a relatively new hybrid bred by Allan Ladd from Northern N.S.W.
Morning all, I forgot to add, Nev, that you are welcome to use my pics, and thanks for asking. I find it a compliment that should want to use one, so there you go. Thanks for the condolences too, as it has been a very traumatic few days, and this morning has been full of phone calls and organising stuff, and then we have to go through the whole emotional funeral bit yet, so i am having a break, with a cuppa and two tim tams (I really shouldn't) and a little bit of a read.
I am shortly going over to the neighbours to pick up my mail, and thought I might take a flowering vriesea or Guzmania over in thanks for feeding the cat e.t.c, but am putting it off, and putting it off, because its hard to go through all the nicities of small talk and all that, when you just don't feel like it.
I checked in on all my plants this morning, and apart from being well watered, all look ok. I found one bloom left, of three, on a cook town orchid that I think Jen sent? The flowering blanchettiana had done a topple over, but thats a normal thing every day or two. I really should put it in the ground! The only problem being, the garden is really quite full and I haven't found the ideal place for it.
I love all these pictures, but must admit I'm a bit impatient when trying to view them at a larger size, and sometimes when i return to the thread after viewing, it stays back at the top instead of continuing where i left off. Never mind.
Ah, the neighbour has just called, so i'd better go and collect the mail and all.
Keep up the pic and chatter eh?
pic is a small section of garden that I found very colourful a few days ago.
Nev, you’ve done very well to record every neo in your shadehouse since you have so many. I try to keep a record of mine on the computer and in a catalogue with a photograph along with its name (though quite a few are NOIDS so they’re numbered) and where and when I got it. I hope you’re right about my NOID which I bought as geisha girl. I love you little mini Domino and your cross concentrica (Compact Form) x Painted Lady too.
Re the white curl grubs … I read an article that recommends EcoGrub to get rid of them but I am a little reluctant to use sprays … has anyone used this product to control pests on broms.
Colleen, good luck with your variegated pup. Our problem getting up in the mornings is the reverse of yours. I often wake up and look at the clock to find it’s after 9:00am but then we don’t have young children in the house and we do tend to have late nights but it does make for short days.
I’m with you Wendy, I hate the cold and the wet and I’m not looking forward to winter. We had no rain today so that was good.
Karen, glad got your new monitor.
Anyway, lots to do tomorrow so I'm going to have an early night. Can't believe the beginning of May is just an hour or so away, the year is going so fast. It's true, the older you get, the faster it goes.
We have Emily here again tonight so the computer was used for DORA games again tonight until she was tired and went to lie on Pa's knee to fall asleep. We will have Rylee as well early in the morning as mum & dad have to go to Toowoomba to pick up the last of the stuff Jess had up there and to clean the house before her mum gets home from Afghanistan on Thursday. When they get back to pick up the girls we probably won't see them again for a few weeks unless we take a trip out to Dayboro to see them. Emily has already picked out a couple of plants to take home to plant at their new house. She even sent one home with mum today. I cut a nice variegated pup off to put in their poinsiana tree but Em decided it had to be in a pot. This afternoon I caught her with a 6in pot full of dirt trying to pot up one of Pa's good vrisea pups. I convinced her it was too big for her pot and she should look for a smaller plant to put in it so she went and picked out a little seedling and potted it instead. She says she is taking it home tomorrow. I think I'll let her too. It is only a concentrica hybrid which we have had for a long time.
Nev you can use any of my pics you want in any article you write. Please send us all a copy when you are finished as I love to read any new info. I read the BSQ magazines from cover to cover when I get them. Often some very good info to be found.
Colleen I can't believe you thought 2am was time to get up. Sometimes I am still trying to fall asleep at 2am. I take my hat off to you having small boys with you permanently. I love having Emily here but after a few days in a row playing shopkeeper, restaurants, doctors, hairdressers and any other game she can think of I just crave a day of peace and quiet so am happy for her to go home. I am happy now she has the DORA games. She can sit in here by herself and play them without supervision. I can sprawl out on couch and watch TV. Tonight I enjoyed the Voice without having the distraction of the computer. Some of them are great singers and I think that comp is going to be very good.
I bought a couple of new memory cards today so am building my collection of pics again on the camera. Thank god I had downloaded the pics before the card died. I think the folder must have been open when I removed the card from the computer and that's why it now will not load. I'll have to make sure I don't do that again.
Oh no I just tried the new memory card in the computer and it won't read. Perhaps it is the slot that is broken. Now I'm going to have to find the cable to download pics that way. A job for tomorrow. I was going to show you something I took a pic of today. Now I'll have to show you tomorrow. So I'll wish you all a good night now.
Good morning all. It started off sunny but is quite overcast again now. We had one generation that didn't know what floods were, now I think we are heading towards one that won't know what sunshine is.
Just a few pics to add today. Nev, these first 3 are ones from you. They've coloured up well.
4 is a bill seedling from Catlans that I would like to officially name LunaKat one day. The pup is
looking just like its parent, so fingers crossed.
5 is Jewellery Shop with 2 nice pups on the way.
Hi everyone – I’ve had a bit of running around to do today so I haven’t got around to reading DG until just now 4.20pm.
Sue – Good to hear from you and thanks for the permission to use your pic’s. I know what you mean about it being a pain having to enlarge each individual pic. I liked the old Garden Forums the best; and although you had to load them through Photo Bucket or one of the other programs, once they came up on the screen that was it, no more clicking necessary. Then the new Brom and Air Plant Forums started and you can load your pic’s though Photo Bucket or a program in the forum itself which is handy although with the forum’s programme, you have to enlarge them also.; but even that was a better set up than this, but then we shouldn’t complain, it’s a free service after all and allows us to stay in contact with each other.
That’s a nice looking section of your garden in the pic; if only mine looked that tidy instead of the jumbled up crowded mess that it has become.
Shirley – Re treatment of Curl Grubs or Root Mealy Bug: On the occasions I have had it on plants I’ve bought in; I’ve just de-potted them, dipped the whole plant in a bucket of Confidor and let it soak completely submerged for about an hour then re-potted it in new mix. That seems to have fixed the problem. I’m a bit like you and very reluctant to spray as the spray often gets on plants you don’t need it on and as I have a lot of little skinks, frogs and small spiders (they eat most of the insects although their webs in the recurvatas are a bit of a pain) around the place so any plants that need spraying or dipping I take up and do it in the garage away from everything else, (Including my two resident Blue Tongue Lizards).
Wendy – Thanks for the permission to use your pic’s and I’ll certainly send you a copy if/when I get it done.
We have a pretty good news letter called “News Link” at the Illawarra Bromeliad Society which makes for good reading and although it’s not full of colour pic’s like a lot of the others are, there’s some good informative articles. Anyone can access it by “Googling” Illawarra Bromeliad Society Inc. To access the current News Link as well as many of the past ones as well.
I meant to tell you that the Portea and Aechmea seed that you sent has germinated with a very good strike rate, so it looks like there’ll be no shortage of seedlings as long as I can get them through winter without any setbacks.
Karen – Good to see the plants growing so well for you and the colour is good too, so you must have the light just right. I’ve never got my Neo. Jewellery Shop to colour up that much down here, but it’s still nice all the same. I like the Neo’s that are that size as they don’t take up so much space and I don’t think you can see anything better than a bench of mixed Neo. Jewellery Shop, Small World, Break of Day, Honour Bright, Cheery Day and plants of that size, they really look great; and they’re nice little compact plants as well.
A few pic’s to finish off with no: Pic 1 is Neo.’Cheery Day’, Pic’s 2 Neo. ‘Bobby Dazzler’, Pic 3 Neo ‘Fairy Dust’, Pic 4 Neo. ‘Noble Descent Too’ and Pis 5 Neo ‘Garnish’
another cool, miserable, overcast day … bring on Spring !!!
Had a couple of Drs appointments so didn’t get much done at home today. I had planned to water my pots that are under cover of the patio but that will have to wait till tomorrow.
Wendy, we love having the grandkids over too and really enjoy the time we spend with them but it’s nice when they leave and peace and quiet returns. I find it sooo tiring and I agree with you that Colleen deserves a grandma medal for caring for young boys full time.
Karen, Bree and Nev, lovely pics, especially LunaKat, Bobby Dazzler and Fairy Dust.
I will attach a couple of photos … the biggest (growing in a 60cm pot) and the smallest (in a 6cm pot) of my neos, both NOIDs
Hi everyone – It doesn’t seem like more than an hour or two since I last typed a reply for DG. It seems like not getting to the computer until late yesterday afternoon has put me all out of sync. as I usually do all of my computer work in the early morning
Breeindy – You second pic certainly looks like Gespacho. It is a plant on which the markings do vary a bit when young but I’m 99% sure that your second plant is the one. There are a few around that look very similar and one I have in particular is a cross between Neo Cracker Jack and Lambert’s Pride and when you put that one beside Gespacho it’s almost impossible to tell the difference by colour alone; it’s just that the Gespacho is a slightly smaller plant, and this is the only way you can tell the difference.
Shirley – It’s amazing just how much time doctor’s appointments take up, isn’t it? You see one doctor, then her/she refers you to someone else and then they send you for X-rays or some other tests before referring you to someone else and before you know it you’re on the Medical Merry-Go-Round. Unfortunately it’s a fact of life, and as we get older the visits to the doctor becomes more frequent; but at least it’s keeping us on the right side of the grass, (on top of it and not under it).
Regarding your two pic’s, I can’t help with an ID for the first plant but possibly may have a better idea when it matures and colours up, so if you could post a pic then we can have another look. As for the second pic there’s no doubt that it’s Neo Pauciflora, one of the Neo species. It’s a very interesting plant which send the pups out on rather long stolons (for the size of the plant) but the stolons slope down rather than horizontal or upward like most; with a big plant the pups give the appearance of cascading out and down which make a most attractive specimen. One of the lady members in our society has a plant she has had for many years and can’t show it anymore because it has just got so large she can’t fit it in her vehicle anymore; and next time I go to her place I’ll see if I can get a pic to post.
Finally I’d like to finish with some pic’s, and the first four are of Neo hybrids that were the result of insect pollination. This happens a lot with brom’s in the garden and a lot of growers won’t use this seed as its origin is unknown, but these pic’s show that it can sometimes be worthwhile to try a few such seeds and the results can quite often be very worthwhile; after all, insects were hybridizing flowers long before humans ever tried it. The only drawback is that they don’t put names on what they cross, but this doesn’t make the resulting seedlings any less interesting or attractive. The last pic is of what I term a very much underrated little species, Neo ‘Guinea’ which looks rather drab and a “nothing plant” when grown in low light, but give it some good light and it will return the favour with some nice colours.
Hello everyone, nice pics again. I do like to see the line-up, as it is a riot of colour!
Nev, your neo hybrids are wonderfull, and I can only dream of getting a variegation in my seedlings, mind you, I haven't tried crossing anything variegated, so perhaps thats the problem? heh heh.
I don't as yet, have grandchildren, so have grown rather selfish of my time, and I even begrudge my hubby when he starts to look hungry around dinner time! Hats off to all you lot that deal with littlies! The energy required is beyond me. I guess thats why I can try to keep the garden neat, Nev. No distractions, well, not many anyway.
We have had a break in the weather today. Its not sunshiney, but its not raining either, so I am going to try and tackle a lawn that has gone three weeks! Thanks goodness the cool weather and shorter days have slowed down the grass growth. For any of you that spray your lawn for bindii and clover, now is the time to do it, as the seeds are germinating.
When it comes to spraying my plants for insects, I have been using the canola oil and vinegar spray, and use a malathion dip if I find root mealy bug. I dip the potted plant in a bucket of the mix and let it soak for an hour or two, then let it drip/drain for at least 24 hours before potting it up. I also throw away the original pot. The only Time I discover root mealy bug is when potting up, and it seems so random! You can pot up 20 plants and only 1 or 2 will have it, and they don't neccesarily sit side by side on the shelf. go figure? I usually repot any new plants I purchase, mainly to check for root mealy bug, as I am pretty sure I have bought it in, in a purchased pot. Also ants! I have them everywhere at the moment, and they are bringing all sorts of pests to the plants, so tackling them is a priority.
Righto, I'll be off line for awhile, but I will catch up on my return.
You all take care, look after yourselves and your plants, and I look forward to all the colourfull pics.
Neo. 'Satsuma' on a post
Sorry I didn't log on last night. Emily has taken over the big computer now and I can leave her in here playing DORA or DIEGO games by herself. The only time she seems to have trouble is when she gets tired and then I can tell her cranky people can't play computer games cause they won't work. She then is ready to go out and snuggle with Pa to fall asleep or go to bed. Last night she opted to go to bed and snuggled down and seemed to fall asleep immediately. Shortly later I heard Pa talking and when I went out all I could see was a lump under a blanket on his knee. She was hiding. I pretended to go in to check on her and she find her gone. When I called Pa and said someone had pinched our Em from her bed she started laughing and gave herself away. hahahaha. We do enjoy having her here. Yesterday she helped me pot up about 30 or more vrisea pups. She has her jobs ...covering the top of the pot with softfall which is small pieces of bark just for decoration and we think the plants really like having the soil covered which keeps the moisture in the mix. Emily then has to carry the pot over and put it down in a row along the front of the pond. She also potted up a couple of plants to take home. She has a mind of her own when it comes to what she wants to take.
This morning we started potting but she decided she was filling boxes to take home. She layed out 2 boxes and started grabbing plants and putting them in. Pa made the mistake of opening the boot to clean it out so we could take Emily home with her plants but she just started poking plants in there. We didn't know what she had or didn't have in there until we took them out at Dayboro. Luckily she didn't really have much we couldn't do without. She even placed them all around the bare ground surrounding the pool. There were already a couple of broms in there but now the area is pretty full of broms. We only had to swap a couple around ie some to more shade and some to more sun. It will look good all planted up but with 2 acres there is still a lot of blank grass. When we left there at 12:30 we stopped off at Samsonvale Hotel for lunch.
Anyway back to broms. Nev I panted up so many of your seedlings recently and they are getting so big now. I've also been potting up some of our seedlings. I'd love to hope that we could get a batch of variegated seedlings like those ones you posted pics of Nev. they were all so lovely and so differently varied. Well done Nev they are lovely. I am partial to a nice variegated neo. Can't resist a nice one. I've even been known to buy the same one several times. Just goes to show where my tastes and preference lie. Then it is so hard to let those favourites go when I have many of the same one. Just have to let some go and I will have to rely on Jen to force me to let go of those pots hahahaha. We will start cleaning and putting plants out the front this week to get ready for our sale next week. We are planning to put fewer tables out this time. We will have more on the ground under the tables and just keep filling the tables we have set up. I will have to start with my variegated ones and put them out this week. The shelves are just too full down that side and I have to clear some.
Love all the pics being posted too. Sue I love the colour you have in satsuma. Is that in full sun? From your comments about being off line but catching up when you get back, am I right in inferring that you are finally going travelling??? Who will we call in on now when we go to Coffs to stay? We might have to go north instead. I have a standing invite to go to Humpty Doo in NT now to visit Ari. That happens to be one of the areas in NT where Johnny worked drilling under the Adelaide River and where Johnny wants to show me all the spots he found while up there including the jumping crocodile. The only spanner in that one is that it will be hard to make it all the way to Darwin and back in 4 weeks which is all we have between Johnny's infusions. We would have to pick somewhere up there to organise to meet a nurse to give it to him while we are away. That means planning and we are not good at planning a month ahead especially when we are travelling. That's the best thing about FB. we can keep in touch and organise a visit to someone for tomorrow. I'm sure that is how it will be when we finally get down to your place Nev.
Nev we have our androlepsis skinneri with an infloresence coming now. What sort of plant would you suggest we cross onto that. I will try to find something to cross it with. All the aechmeas seem to be flowering at the moment. Speaking of which that noetigii doesn't seem to want to spit out any more black seed pods. I keep checking every day but the rest seem to be hanging on to the pink colour. I'll keep checking though and when I get some more I'll send them off. I have quite a few little packets ready to send and I will go through all the rest and add a few more before I send it. If the seed has been in the fridge here and then is taken out for several days to be in the post will you have to sow them immediately when you get them or can they be put back in the fridge. I know there have been a few types of seeds we have been sent that have not sent up any shoots and some that have sent up as few as maybe 6 or 8. Others have filled a tray. So I am thinking it could be about how long they have been stored and how long they were out of the fridge before we got them. Some were put back into the fridge here and sown later.
I think I am going to have an early night tonight and I am looking forward to a sleep in tomorrow as we don't have Emily to get us up in the morning. Like Shirley we often find ourselves waking up around 8am but Emily has been coming in and climbing in between us around 7am. No sleeping after that as she and Pa start whispering loudly and giggling. I may lie there and pretend to sleep on but it doesn't happen hahahaha.
Pic is one of our concentrica seedlings which is growing in quite a bit of middle of day sun. I think it is getting some lovely shape and colour and looks like being a very nice plant. There are a few others which are starting to mature into something very nice. We sent a few of these up to Dayboro to see how they go in the ground in different amounts of sunlight.
I'm off to turn off both computers soon, have a bath and maybe watch a TV program to wind down and get sleepy then off the bed. Night all.
spent most of the day doing the shopping … nothing exciting, groceries mostly and we had lunch and coffee at the centre. We got a late start as I had to water the pots before we left home that I should have done yesterday and I did manage to pull a few weeds from the back garden late this arvo so not entirely wasted.
Nev, hope you are back in sync again by now. As for the Drs’ appointments … you're right about the medical merry-go-round. Like you, I have seen specialists, had numerous blood tests, scans, MRIs, more blood tests, more specialists and so it goes on and still no answers. My GP continues to ‘monitor’ my test results, reports and symptoms but after so many examinations and consultations, still no diagnosis.
Thanks for the ID on Neo Pauciflora. I love your mini ‘guinea’ and the variegated hybrids, they are really lovely. I will attach five pics of my mini neos, unfortunately I don’t have names for any of them.
Sue, you mention ‘the canola oil and vinegar spray’. Is that something you mix yourself or a prepared mix you buy. Oops, just noticed you are going to be offline for a while.
Wendy, sounds like you and Johnny have a lot of fun with Emily and it’s good she is interested in helping you with potting. You mention a sale next week … did I miss something … when is your sale and will you be selling any of the vriesea pups you have potted up. I am still chasing anything vriesea Kiwi.
One of these days when you visit Dayboro you will have to call in on us for a cuppa ... we are at Whiteside, not far away.
Anyway, we have to be up early tomorrow morning … we have the Toyota booked in for a service at 8:00am at Brendale so I had better call it a night. Bye for now,
Hi everyone – It’s a bit overcast here today which is disappointing as we’re going with the grandsons this afternoon to watch a World War II Catalina Flying Boat do a landing and take-off from Lake Illawarra; this is an all time first for this area and although other sea planes have landed here in the past there’s never been a Catalina before. As my grandsons are fascinated with planes I think they will really like to see this unusual plane "do its stuff". I really don’t want to bore you ladies, but some of the men watching in would be interested, so to see more, check out the site below: http://hars.org.au/2012/04/hars-catalina-to-perform-landings...
Sue – I don’t know if you’ll see this or not, but you treat the Root Mealy Bug the same way as me, only with a different insecticide. I may have unintentionally led you all astray yesterday with the pic’s of the four variegated plants. I was so intent on showing how nice insect pollinated seedlings can be I didn’t mention that they weren’t my plants but belong to another seed raising friend from South Africa who I regularly correspond with. Sorry about that, I didn’t mean to deceive; anyway I haven’t bred any variegated plants as good as those yet anyway. But I will post some of mine today some done by me and some done by possibly ants. Anyway, you and Bill have a nice trip and don’t forget to drop into an internet cafe from time to time and let’s know what you’re up to.
Wendy – As I said in my message to Sue above, those variegated plants in the pic’s yesterday weren’t mine. They were from seed pollinated by insects and grown by a friend. However, (like you) I do tend to collect a lot of variegated plants though as I’m very fond of them.
As for your Androlepsis Skinneri, you should be able to put pollen on it from any member of the Bromelioideae Family and the various genera belonging to this are shown below:
Acanthostachys, Aechmea , Ananas, Androlepis, Araeococcus , Billbergia , Bromelia , Canistropsis , Canistrum, Cryptanthus, Deinacanthon , Disteganthus, Edmundoa, Eduandrea , Fascicularia, Fernseea , Greigia , Hohenbergia, Hohenbergiopsis, Lymania , Neoglaziovia , Neoregelia , Nidularium Ochagavia , Orthophytum , Portea , Pseudaechmea , Pseudananas , Quesnelia , Ronnbergia , Ursulaea , Wittrockia , Hybrids, Colour Variants
There is just one thing though, I think they have male and female flowers so you best read up about them first as I know nothing about this or even how to tell the difference ... Good Luck.
As for your question about taking seed out of the fridge, I really can’t say; all I know is that every time I have taken seed out of the fridge I have sown it straight away, but the germination rate does vary greatly depending on how long they have actually been in the fridge. Also, some seed doesn’t germinate because it’s sterile anyway, and others have a poor strike rate even when sown fresh so that’s something else to consider. I know if I have pollen stored in the freezer I must use it immediately after it thaws out (just a minute or two) because after that it’s no good.
I have stored seed that I got a good germination rate from when I planted it initially, but after I have sown the same seed that’s been stored in the fridge for two years some types have given a good strike rate while others haven't. I guess some just deteriorates quicker than others. Likewise other seed I’ve sown that’s only been in the fridge for three months has given me a very poor strike rate. As far as seed goes I think the viability depends on the seed itself.
Once borm seed is harvested, I have found the viability decreases very quickly with some and slowly with others and the best rule (to be on the safe side) is “Fresh is best”. I prefer to squeeze the seed straight out of the capsules and onto the growing medium wherever possible, and find I generally get much better germination than from stored dry seed.
Shirley – Regarding Rob Smythe’s Canola Oil Spray, I have used it quite often on plants I have bought in which have a minor infestation of “Flyspeck Scale” and I find it works well. It also makes your plants look nice and clean as well which is probably due to the detergent component of the spray. I like it as it is harmless to everything else such as lizards etc and still “does the job”. You can find the recipe at http://fcbs.org/articles/canola.htm . I had trouble getting the “Sill” brand of detergent down here and I spoke to Rob who told me that the Woolworths “Home Brand” detergent works just as well. He just mentioned the “Sill” brand in the article because that’s what he had used at the time he wrote the article.
I think your middle pic of the “mini” is Neo. Meyendorffii Minor; I have the same plant and am posting a pic for comparison. The others I can’t help you with but perhaps Jen can (if she’s reading this) as I know she has a few minis as does Wendy I think.
That’s it from me and now for a few pic’s: Pic 1 is Neo Meyendorffii ‘Minor’ for Shirley to compare with her plant. Pic's 2 and 3 are of Neo. Concentrica x Painted Lady (Variegated sport) seedlings of my own. Pic 4 is of the reverse cross using the same parents Neo Painted Lady (variegated sport) x Concentrica. Out of all of the resulting seedlings from these crosses there were only about 5% which were variegated and of this 5% only about two or three from each cross worth keeping. Pic 5 is of the same Neo Painted Lady (variegated sport) parent, this time crossed with Neo 'Grace" and you will notice the variegations in this plant are very faint but seem to be stable after four years. I kept this plant not because of the faint variegations but because I liked the colour.
Good sunny morning this morning. So far. Clouds predicted, so who knows.
Sue, safe travelling. I look forward to hearing all about it when you get back.
There are so many great pics up. I love the variegateds too, and Nev, you've put up some lovelies.
Bree, thank you for the gespacho pup pics. Gives me some hope for my little one. Maybe it will
get more banded as it matures.
I have a few broms getting more pups now. It must be the time of the year for them. Even my
blanchetiana is getting a pup. That's going to be interesting as it grows, as I don't have a clue
how I'll remove it. Can you just leave them? The main plant isn't even old enough to flower yet.
I'm late tonight but not for long. I am fighting off a very sore throat tonight and have had burning eyes and a headache all day. We went out for lunch today for our anniversary which was last Saturday. 41 years. not bad considering everyone said we wouldn't last as we were too young when we married. we proved them wrong didn't we??? No sore throat is going to keep me from Olive's sale this weekend. Jen will pick me up and we'll be there before she opens for the first picks. LOL
Shirley we are having a mother's day sale on 12 & 13. We want to take off for a couple weeks straight after that. not sure how far we will get but will try to make it all the way to Nev's. Will keep you posted as we go. I'll have the laptop with mobile access.
I can't seem to find the cord to download the photos on this big computer. the media slot just won't pick up the memory cards. BUT I noticed tonight that the laptop has a media slot so I can download onto that and transfer using a USB stick so I'll take some pics tomorrow and download in the arvo.
Shirley when I saw your minis I immediately thought I knew a few of them but when I went through our pics there are so many that look very similar I'm loathe to make any suggestions. probably best tink would be to bring a box of them with you next time you come over and we can see if we can match them for you. Pic 1 is mini neo alley cat and pic 2 is mini neo faithful pet
I'm off to bed now to nurse the sore throat so I can go brom hunting on saturday.
Hi everyone – After I posted yesterday the clouds all cleared away and the sun came out to make for a beautiful clear sunny day. As it turned out it was a perfect day for flying and we watched the old Catalina (it was originally made during the 1940’s) do four touch-and-go landings on the sparkling Lake Illawarra, and every one of them perfect.
I just can’t understand some people though; there was a woman near us and she was saying to her children to “watch the plane as it’s going to crash into the water” and the bloke and his wife beside her said, “yeah the only reason I came was to watch the old “heap of junk” disintegrate when it hits the water”.
I mean how nasty can people be. The people flying this plane are doing so to demonstrate (free of charge to the public) a bit of history which is only made possible by a group of very dedicated workers who have spent many, many hours restoring this old plane to air worthiness. Some people just don’t appreciate anything good.
Breeindy – Your pic’s of Luna certainly show the improvement in colour now to when you first got it. Your Gespacho pups showing spotting at an early stage are different to mine; mine show the barring right from the word go so perhaps they are two different clones.
Karen – I wouldn’t be in too much of a hurry to remove the pup from your Blanchetiana as some clones like to form into a bit of a clump before they flower in much the same way as Vr. Phillipo-Cobergii does.
Wendy – I hope your sore throat gets better before the sale; it’s probably due to drinking too much champagne to celebrate your anniversary. We have our 49th coming up in November so it seems like we each found the right match doesn’t it?
I really hope you and Johnny can make it down this far this time you travel south, I’d really like to meet you both and “talk brom’s” for a while. It’s always good to put faces to names isn’t it?
That’s a good suggestion to Shirley to bring her mini’s over to your place next time she comes, as comparison with other live plants is certainly the best method of identification.
Don’t be surprised if I disappear from this site for a while in the very near future as the old computer is getting slower and slower and I think the time’s fast approaching when it too needs to go to the doctor.
To anyone on the sick list, I hope you all get well soon and a special get well to our new member Jenny’s husband who had a car fall on him while working on it. Fortunately he’s out of hospital but still very sore.
Just a few pic’s to finish off for today with the first one being my clump of Neo Sheeba just starting to flush nicely with colour, Pic 2 is a half grown Neo. ‘Lovely Lady’, Pic 3 is a few hanging plants in another part of the back yard, Pic 4 is a corner of my Neo Shade House and Pic 5 is one of the larger seedlings from the Neo. Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack] cross.
Nev I can't understand why people didn't watch that plane simply for the wonder that it was. I know we would have been there watching the old girl for the special thing that it was.
I'm going to need a box of tissues tomorrow to go with Jen to the sale at Olive Branch. Oh and I better not forget the strepsils as well otherwise I will be coughing all over everyone.
Karen we take blanchetiana pups off when they are 1/3 size of mother plant. they are pretty tough though so you will need a good set of secateurs and you don't even have to get right down close to the mother to cut either. I think that would certainly be a job for Barry to do for you. Let him get scratched rather than you. Johnny lets the cut end dry out for about 3 days before potting to reduce the risk of rot. And don't forget to peel the old tissue from the stem also to allow the roots to access the soil immediately. If you want a demonstration come over next week and Johnny can show you how to do it.
Pic is our androlepsis skinneri flowering. Unfortunately I took the pic on an angle were one leaf covered the infloresence. Oh and Nev we've already been told that our plant is a male as the female flower is much fatter. We were also told that they don't think any female ones were brought into Australia so it is hard to get seed unless you know someone overseas who can send some. Wonder if then you might grow a female one. Nev maybe you have o/s contacts who can send us some seed. LOL
I'm off to bed now so I can be up nice and early for Jen in the morning.
Hi everyone – We had another beautiful day here again yesterday and it was spent getting plants cleaned up in preparation for the plant sales table at our monthly Bromeliad Society meeting this afternoon.
I have to give a talk at this meeting about growing condition for bromeliads and although I’ve done it a few times before to different groups (mainly local garden clubs), this time is a bit more challenging as we have quite a few new members in the society so I have to keep it basic enough so they can learn something from it but at the same time keep it interesting enough so that the longer serving brom growers don’t go to sleep.
Wendy – Sorry to hear you’re going to still be “coughing and spluttering” today at the brom sale, but then as I always say when you have things why not “share them around” (watch out Jen). I’m sure once you get to the sale and your attention is on the brom’s, the part of your brain that controls the “coughing and spluttering” will be overridden by the desire to find the best bargains at the sale. So I hope you both have a god time and get lots of bargains.
Wendy, you make good points about allowing the cut ends of pups to dry out to minimise the chance of rot and peeling back the old tissue on the heel of the pup to allow the new roots easier access. These are both tips experienced growers have probably been doing for years but often tend to forget to pass on to the newer grower.
As for the androlepsis skinneri, I possibly could get some seed from a grower overseas although I checked the Brom L seed exchange listing (http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/Brom-L/) this morning and there is none listed there so maybe it’s not as commonly available as you think. Besides even if I could get some it’s still going to take a few years to grow it to flowering size and I still mightn’t get a female plant anyway. I’m getting to old for this and as I don’t live in a warm enough area, it’s probably a better project for you and Johnny to take onboard. I’ll put out the “feelers” and see if I can get some seed anyway and if I do, it will be coming up to you.
Just a few pic’s to finish off for today with the first one being a quite common but very popular Vr. Hieroglyphica, Pic 2 is another old favourite Vr. Angela, Pic 3 is Vr Platynema variegata which unfortunately isn’t my plant but belongs to a hybridizer friend of mine who uses it for breeding, Pic 4 is one we don’t see a lot of down here, Ae Bert variegated and to finish off; one of the species, Bill. Brasilienses which is one of the Billbergias that has the “watch spring” type flowers.
Hi everyone. Nev you are a mine of information. I have just put a large pot of Vr. Phillipo-Cobergii by the SH door to be repotted and then I see your comment above about letting them clump up to flower. I still might put it into a larger pot but leave the pups on and see what happens. That Vr. Platynema varigata is something special isn't it. I've had all the Vrieseas down the southern end of the SH so they wouldn't get too much heat and they have lost some of their colour so now that they're up in the middle now I can't wait to see if I can get my platynema to look something like that one. The Ae Bert var. is nice too. I don't think I have either the ordinary one or the variegated. Wendy and Jen I hope you have a lovely morning at the sale and Wendy I hope your cold doesn't annoy you too much. Karen what are you getting up to this weekend? We have the markets again this Sunday but don't expect to find too much in the way of broms. Still I really don't need any for a while until I deal with the ones I have. Doesn't stop me from telling Nev to put them aside for me though, lol Well had better go and get a start to my jobs. Have a great day everyone. Colleen
Good morning. Lovely sunny morning, but still rather cool. Winter is on its way.
Colleen, I am hoping to get to the Olive Branch open garden tomorrow. Have only
been once before and hope to see more this time. I love your hanging pots area.
Looks great. Enjoy the markets. Always something to look at there.
Wendy, thanks re the blanchetiana pup instructions. We hope to get down to yours
next weekend, but Kerry wants us down there for Mothers Day (Gold Coast). So
its going to be a bit cramped. However, what are you doing on the Monday? Or even
this Monday if its preferable? Congratulations on 41 years. Must be a record these days.
Hope your throat was OK this morning, and that you got some goodies at Olive's.
Nev, lovely pics and info as always. I think we might all be in for a longer cold winter
this year, so tuck the plants up nice and warm.
My zygocactus are budded up ready to start this year's display. Looking forward to it.
Hi to everyone and hope you all have a safe and fun long weekend.
These 3 pics are all of the same plant in its various stages..Don't know what this is, but it's
pups are having pups and the mother is still setting new pups herself. Might use this one to
fill in an area down the back, as it doesn't like the sun.
Pic. 3 is the same plant as I first got it. It has some interesting stages, this one.
Karen that plant looks like one we have called collissiana. I can go totally red in good light and the pup starts off red almost spotted. we grow them on the high shelf on the east where they get really good morning pure sunlight through the shadecloth beside them.
Karen you are in for a really good day with Olive. She took us in the buggy for a guided tour of the whole property. their home garden area is amazing and goes on and on. they've had to put in a lot of large pavers and stone to cover the mud and terraced some slippery slopes making steps. it gets hard in some places but certainly worth the effort to have a look. I recommend you go over the their house for a cuppa and check out the tillandsia tree. Wow. you will love it Karen. I just wanted to put it under my arm and bring it home but Jen assured me there was no way we could get it into her little car.
We are going back to Olives one day this week and Olive is going to give us a ute load of free plants for Chris to put in the yard at Dayboro. Some are her full grown blanchetiana hybrids but the flowers have gone past looking good and they are so hard to sell she is not even taking pups off. So we will get some nice stuff but a bit rough lookin at the moment. But we know what they will become. I was gob smacked when she took me around to show what she was planning to give us. She has really dropped her prices too so some good bargains again.
I have taken pics but I'm too stuffed up to bother downloading them tonight. I have to download to laptop transfer to a memory stick and download to big computer to upload to facebook. I'm too tired for all that so I'm off to bed right now.
I did add a post, it must have been Thursday, but it seems to have completely disappeared. Not to worry …
Nev, thanks for the ID on the Meyendorffii Minor. As always, lovely pics, love that Vr Platynema variegata. Hope your computer is behaving well.
Wendy, love your minis, alley cat and faithful pet. Hope your throat gets better soon and you get to travel south as far as Shell Harbour to see Nev. Looking forward to seeing you on Friday morning.
Colleen, hope you have better luck at your local market than I did today. Maybe it’s because of the long weekend but there were very few stalls there today and it was such a lovely day too. Maybe they all took the day off and went to Olives.
Karen, hope you make it to the Olive Branch tomorrow. My neighbour decided we should go this arvo for a quick look and it certainly was just that. She thought she knew where to go but we got hopelessly lost. She doesn’t have a GPS and I am hopeless at reading a street directory. Anyway, we arrived a bit after 3.00 pm and only managed a very quick look at the gardens … WOW ... very impressive. Would have loved to have more time to have a good look around, will have to be a bit more organised next time !!!
Anyway, haven’t been sleeping well and am really tired, so I’m off to bed now.
Hi everyone – We had a great Brom Meeting yesterday with about forty members in attendance. I gave my talk which was surprisingly well received and what’s more, no one went to sleep. When I had finished I asked for questions, thinking I might get one or two but they just went on and on and my “old back” was telling me to sit down, but each time it looked like I was finished, someone would ask another question. Anyway, I didn’t discourage them because as we all know, asking questions is the best way to learn, but I was really wishing they would stop as my back was aching so much from standing for so long.
The plant sales also went exceptionally well and I sold just over $200 worth and that was after the society’s commission was taken out, so all in all and very successful afternoon.
Colleen – Your hanging plants are looking great and as you continue to hang them you will see just how many extra plants you can accommodate and how it seems to create that lovely micro climate which looks and feels so natural and even has that “rain forest floor” smell.
You mentioned Vr Phillipo- Cobergii; I had one of these a few years back that just kept producing pups in abundance. The more I took off the more it seemed to produce, but disappointingly, never a sign of a flower. When I mentioned this to another grower he told me that while ever I kept taking off pups, it wouldn’t flower as it liked to “clump a bit” before flowering. I followed his advice and when it had a few more pups (which I didn’t remove) it eventually flowered.
By this time some of the earlier pups I had taken, had produced pups of their own and I left them alone as well to see what would happen; sure enough, as soon as they had a few pups, they too flowered. I now have more Phillipo- Cobergii than I know what to do with; I have never seen a bromeliad produce pups so prolifically.
I have spoken to friends in the warmer northern states and they say that they don’t have the same problem when they remove pups and their plants still flower when they get large enough, so I’ve come to the conclusion this is just a little peculiarity this plant has in the cooler southern states.
Karen – I think you might be right about the weather; it was pretty cold here last night and I think today I’ll have to start moving a few of the more cold intolerant plants under a bit of cover otherwise they will be covered in “cold spots”. I have one in particular that is very cold sensitive and that is Aechmea ‘Big Stuff’; it’s a beautiful plant with shiny concolour leaves and suffers particularly badly during the cold spells and spots very badly. It has just put up a nice inflorescence and it would be a shame to see it disfigured by the cold like it was last year.
The three pic’s you posted are very interesting as they show the different stages of a plants life. A lot of people think that when you buy a brom, “what you see is what you get” and don’t realise they go through these different stages and colour changes. This is why I say to people that they can’t go off a pic when trying to ID a plant; it all depends on what stage of the plant’s life the picture was taken, as the colour changes can be sometimes quite dramatic and they may look nothing like the plant wanting an ID and you have provided us with a classic example of these differences with your pic 1 opposed to pic 3.
Wendy – You make me very envious talking about the wonderful day you had at the “Olive Grove”, I have heard so many good things about these two very popular “bromeliad people” over the years and my big ambition was to one day get to visit their nursery. Unfortunately that’s no longer an option for me so I now have to rely on people like you to take pic’s and show us what it is really like; so get your act together, and your computer cranked up and post us a few pic’s; “pretty please”!
Shirley – It must have been so disappointing for you when your neighbour got lost and you didn’t get to the “Olive Grove” in time for a good look around., However you are in the fortunate position where you don’t live too far away and can just drive there at another time, and I’m sure there will still be plenty to see what ever time you get to go there.
Probably a short course in map reading wouldn’t go astray for you and your neighbour; these GPS systems are all well and good when you have one, but when you don’t or when they break down, that’s when you wish you had never forgotten the basics of map reading. I think we all become too reliant on these new “extras” and they are not always what they are cracked up to be. I read recently where a chap was being navigated by a GPS through and area new to him and the GPS said to do a “U Turn” at the next intersection; unfortunately this intersection had traffic lights and as we know, in some states you can’t make a “U Turn” at traffic lights. This bloke was unlucky enough to be spotted by the police who were parked nearby and he was pulled over. The excuse that “the GPS told me to do it” didn’t help him one little bit; he still got booked. Anyway, not to worry Shirley, there’s always “next time”, and you’ll get there OK then I’m sure.
Just a few pic’s to finish off and this time they are a little bit different. They are of the different stages of seed growing and those of you who have my little booklet on growing brom seed will recognise them from the pic’s in the booklet and those of you that haven’t, it will give you an idea about the stages of raising brom’s from seed.
Pic 1 shows the small seedlings growing in a plastic take-away food container at a stage where they are ready to thin out and transplant. Up until now they have been growing in the sealed container with the lid on. When plants get to this size the lid comes off and they are firstly allowed to acclimatise for a few weeks.
After this time they are thinned out and transplanted into the same type of containers, but this time without a lid and also having drainage holes cut in the bottom (Pic 2) where they are growing within a covered in porch protected from the weather. The containers are sitting on a 40mm bed of damp coco peat in the bottom of these cut down poly styrene broccoli boxes.
When they are established and reach a suitable size they are moved to an area in the shade house (Pic 3) until they are large enough to be potted into individual pots (Pic 4) They are left here until the boxes can no longer accommodate them due to their size and they are then moved out into the main shade house (Pic 5).
Really lovely sunny day here today. Managed to get out and do a bit in the garden.
Nev, congrats on your talk at the brom meeting yesterday and on your plant sales … well done on both counts.
I have a question relating to ants in broms … I bought a potted brom on the weekend that is infested with tiny ants … millions of ‘em. I don’t know if they’re harmful to the plant or not but I don’t want to introduce them to my other broms. I sometimes get the larger black ants in my other pots (not the broms) and in the pavers and I sprinkle them with ant sand but I was reluctant to do this with the brom just in case it damages it.
I soaked the whole pot in a tub of water and gave it a good hose in the hope they would abandon ship and this got rid of a few. I repotted the plant but no doubt there are still ants in the remaining soil and roots. Can I use something like ‘dead ant’ or ant sand on the soil around the brom to get rid of them without harming my new plant ... or should I just leave them be.
Hope everyone is enjoying their long weekend … everyone in Queensland anyway … Labour Day holiday here tomorrow.
Well, that’s about it for me. I’ll attach some pics … 1st one is ‘Prinsler’, the 2nd I think is ‘Two Tone’ and the 3rd is Wendy’s ‘Purple Star’
Hi everyone. Lovely plants Shirley. Nev I can't wait for my seedlings to grow. They're there but that's all they're doing. Talk about patience. Nev I have another question please. Vr. Poelmarii variegated, are the pups just green, or do I have another funny one? It only has the one pup but it is about 8" and as green as Phillipo-cobergii. Oh, girls, it sounds as though you all had a great time at Olive's. I went to the markets yesterday but didn't get one plant. The scum-bag was there again and a had a very lovely Neo. Mars plant but he wanted $45. He also had a tissue cultured brom with no name which was nice too $39. He was willing to bring the price down if I bought 3 broms but still too expensive for me. He said to me "Are you the lady in Barmera who has 100's of broms?" I was a bit surprised by this comment so I just said "could be". Word doesn't take long to get around small towns does it? Well not much of the Reo to fill now, nearly there. Still have some hanging spaces too. If I don't have any interruptions I might get the Reo finished today. Have a great day everyone. I'll put some pics up later. Colleen
Oh dear, I did a lovely long reply here, complete with photos, and it has all gone into cyberspace. I can't do it all again, so here are some
pics of my new plants from the Olive Branch yesterday.
1. A lovely noid from the $5 shed. 3 plants on this one, so a real bargain. I'm a sucker for pink.
2. Neo. Razzberry Ripple.
3. Neo. Hula Girl.
4. Tillandsia Cynea variegated.
5. Strange plant from the $5 shed, followed me home it did.
Hi everyone – Another nice day here yesterday with a clear blue cloudless sky and magnificent weather for the annual “Wings Over the Illawarra” air show, which is put on by the Historical Aircraft Restoration Society.
As far as the brom’s go, I spent the day catching up on lots of little odd jobs among the plants which I have been putting on the “back burner” for some time and at last I feel I’m finally starting to catch up with things.
Shirley – Your question about the ants; firstly let me say that right from an early age I was taught to never kill an ant. We lived in an area where termites were sometimes very much a problem and a lot of the “oldies” said, “You never should kill black ants as they eat termites and wherever you have black ants you won’t have termites”. Now whether or not this is true I can’t say but we have lived in weatherboard houses all our lives and have never been troubled with termites although others in our street where we previously lived at Dunmore did, but we did and still do have a lot of black ants, so draw your own conclusions from that.
As far as damaging the brom’s, I really can’t say I have ever found any damage from ants. In fact some genera of brom’s live quite happily in conjunction with ants especially some of the Tillandsias of the bulbous type where the ants actually live in the base of the plant and it is said that they live there in return for protecting the plant from other insect predators which they eat, thereby protecting the plant. I know ants are often seen on bromeliad flowers and are attracted by the “honey dew” exuded from the flowers; it is this that they eat and not the flower. While they are doing this they often accidently pollinate the flowers and are responsible for many of the unnamed hybrids that exist today.
When I grew orchids, they sometimes were attacked by aphids and shortly after the appearance of these, ants would appear also, but it seems the ants only “milk the aphids” for the sweet nectar in their bodies and don’t actually harm the plants or the flowers.
I think ants can be compared with mice, cockroaches and other pests; they won’t be in your house or plants if there’s nothing for them to eat as they are attracted by food and in the case of ants the attraction is the sweet nectar and honey dew.
I have a lot of small light brown coloured spiders in my Recurvata type Aechmeas, and although the webs are very annoying and don’t look good, these plants are not troubled by any other insect as the spiders kill them, and I leave the spiders there for that reason. Far better having a few harmless spiders than spraying poison around the plants and killing everything else it comes in contact with also.
If the ants are bothering you that much, all I can suggest is that you take the plant out of the pot and thoroughly wash it under a strong jet of water from the hose and just leave it somewhere out of the sun to air dry and then re-pot in a clean new potting mix. In doing so you will probably wash off whatever it is that’s attracting the ants.
In an article I read in the F.C.B.S. about the relationship between brom’s and different insects and animals I have taken the following brief passage which may be of interest:
“This page is intended to show you some of the animals and insects that visit and live with our bromeliads. Most of these visitors do no harm and actually help the bromeliad by leaving behind nutrients that the bromeliad can feed on. Some of these critters come by because they are attracted to the pollen on the flowers, water in the bromeliad, or other insects that are on or in the plant; others may be just passing by, and the bromeliad is on their route. Some of these creatures may not qualify as 'Bromeliad biota' in the strictest sense because they do not depend solely on the bromeliad for their existence.”
I love your three plants in the pic’s and of these I have Neo. ‘Prinsler’ and Neo. ‘Purple Star’ but I don’t have nor do I know of Neo ‘Two Tone’ but I do like it, as I find all of these types of plant with obvious concentrica somewhere in their breeding are strong robust growers and I would be very interested to see another pic when it colours up fully. I looked it up on the BCR and found there is also another called Neo ‘Two Tone OT’ as well, and it is quite an interesting story about how this came to be. If you’re interested you can read about it and see the pic’s at:
Karen – That’s a great haul you got from the sale yesterday. I especially like the NOID in the first pic, but then I seem to be attracted to these marble throated types. The other two Neo’s are winners as well, especially the Neo. ‘Hula Girl’. The Cyanea is certainly something different; I knew they existed, but I’ve not seen a variegated one before, and I’ll bet it will certainly be the centre of some discussion with other brom growers.
I’ve left my comments on the best for last though and they are of the strange looking brom in Pic. 5. It’s most unusual, and is that a nice pink inflorescence coming out on the right from beneath the foliage? It looks like it’s one you could probably put to work for you and could be very handy around the shade house.
That’s it for now plus a few pic’s to finish with. Because I post pic’s on other forums as well as this one it’s hard to remember which I have and have not previously posted, so some of these you may already have seen; Pic's 1,2 and 3 are of groups of Neoregelias which I took one day just after it had been raining. Pic 4 Neo Watsonia ‘Ruby’ (Unreg.) and Pic 5, Neo Watsonia ‘Sunset’ (unreg.) are both my own hybrids.
I feel like I haven't really spent much time on the computer last few days. I've slept a lot and when the computer has been on it has just been a sideline while I've relaxed watching TV. The eyes were too sore to watch the computer screen too much. On Saturday after we came back from Olive's Johnny suggested I go for a lie down so of course I did about 2:30 and next thing it was dark. Of course that could have had something to do with the cold and flu tabs I got when Jen stopped at the chemist on the way home. I got up and had some chicken soup that Johnny made for me while I was sleeping, I watched some TV, had a good soak in the bath and went back to bed at about 9:30 thinking I wouldn't sleep after that nap but I guess the night time flu tabs really worked cause I didn't wake up again till almost 9am Sunday. I felt a lot better today thinking I was finally on the mend but then when it started chilling down this afternoon I started snuffling and coughing again. Now I just want to go back to bed again so I won't be here for long. Luckily we have nearly all tables full again.
Karen did you get two tone from us? If so it is one of Alan Freeman's unregistered concentrica hybrids. It is a lovely pink colour with deep pink patches (if I'm thinking of the correct plant). Unfortunately I don't have many pics on this laptop so can't post one of two tone. Wonder if I have posted it on fb pics???
Karen that is a lovely selection of plants you got from Olive's. Other than that NOID we have all those others and I could have given you them at a cheaper price LOL although I am not ready to let any of the variegated cyanea go yet. If you get down here this week I have a few till lindenii pinks flowering so if you don't have that one yet you'll love them. Johnny thought we had a cyanea that was a sport as the little flower coming out of the paddle was pale pink instead of purple.
I hope these pics from Olive's will load. The first 2 are for Karen. Did you go up to the house for a cuppa and see this by the pool? If I could have picked up this piece of wood and taken it home I would have. That's my dream to have one of these. The last pic is just one section of the yard. 3 pics didn't load so I'll start with one.
this pic is amazing. There is aechmea burning bush on the left and the one on the right at first glance looks like canistropsis but is actually a hybrid. Where canistropsis has stolens with pups on end this plant has pups from the base of the plant. It is stunning. Olive was able to rattle off names and crosses most of the time but like the rest of us age is causing a bit of CRAFT at times LOL.
I can't believe the plants growing in the trees. I think every single tree in the yard had some type of brom growing on the trunk. Palm trees had neos, aechmeas, tillandsias growing on them. Some I wouldn't have even thought of putting on a palm trunk but they worked and thrived.
That's it for tonight. I'm off for a bath soon and an early night again.
Karen, love your new plants, especially Raspberry Ripple and Hula Girl. My neighbour and I paid a quick visit to the Olive Branch and I hope to get back there another time for a good look.
Nev, thanks for the info on the ants in the brom pots and on the Neo Two Tone.
Wendy, hope by now you are feeling much better. I am not sure if the pic I posted is Two Tone but I think it is … though it is definitely not pink so maybe it’s not, but it isn’t one of the broms I got from you ... but, if you have Neos Raspberry Ripple and Hula Girl, could you put one of each aside for me, please.
As I mentioned earlier, I went to Olives with my neighbour but we got there near closing time and didn’t see much. I did get a couple of nice $5.00 plants (NOIDS unfortunately) and I will post pics.
I could not believe the vrieseas growing so beautifully in the gardens … just awesome. I just wish I could turn our 5 acres into something that lovely.
Hi everyone – Looks like winter is just around the corner; very cold here last night and I’m very pleased I moved some of my more cold sensitive plants to a more protected area yesterday. I think it’s time for me to give everything a good drink of Seasol to help them cope with the cold weather a bit better. I find this a very good product and it claims to protect plants up to an extra 4 degrees of excessive cold or hot weather without damage, so I use it as an insurance policy during the cold winters and excessive hot times during summer (although we didn’t get any this year).
Wendy – It looks like Jen’s got you on the best stuff for colds. I’ve used the Codral Cold and Flu tabs for years with good results although before they had the day and night types, the original ones would keep you wide awake all night, but that’s history now anyway.
Thanks for all the great pic’s, it really is a great place at Len and Olive’s and your pic’s are the next best thing to being there. Gee I wish I could have got into that $5 bin and got some of those marble throated types of Neo’s. I have several different ones but they are still a favourite colour combination of mine and I'm always on the lookout for more. There’s also some very good ones being bred in N.Z. but with Australian quarantine laws I don’t expect to see any here for a while.
Shirley – I see you have a taste for the marble throated Neo’s as well and were lucky enough to grab a bargain. I know it will be a while yet, but would you write my name on the back of the label for the first available pup you have spare.
Not much to talk about this morning so I’ll just close with a few pic’s of our last years's show. Pic 1 is of the early stages of setting up for our annual Spring Show; the people you see are the “back bone” of the society and are always available when there’s work to be done. I know they’re mostly women but the men were also busy transporting the tables and props for the main display. Pic 2 Getting the Sales Table set up and ready. Pic 3 The show is open to the public, Pic 4 Sharyn our lady who does the main display, she is saying, “If you take that pic, I’ll kill you!” Pic 5 Part of the main display.
Hello, I'm late in today. One of those mornings when I had to be outside rather than in.
Wendy, some great pics there. We did have tea and scones, but darned if I saw the till tree. Barry says he didn't see it either. But there was so much to see, maybe I just missed it, or maybe they had even moved it, perhaps? I hope your cold improves quickly. I find the Codral C&F tabs great too. Keep yourself warm and rest a lot.
Shirley, I imagine it would have taken many many years to get the gardens looking like that, but Len and Olive run a nursery business and have a lot of staff on tap. Their shade houses are just plain monstrous (as in beyond huge) and there are many acres of them to tend to. I'll see if I can find the pic of the tillandsia shade house. The broms weren't open to the public, and even the ones we could see were so seriously huge and full one didn't try getting in them. Could lost easily in any one of them.
Nev, I love seeing the colourful displays at a show. I love the tillandsia table in front.
1, 2, 3 & 4... Olive and Len's gardens are jammed full of incredible beauty.
5 is part of one of the tillandsia shade houses. The shade houses cover many acres and are stacked full of everything imaginable in broms and tills, orchids too.
Nev, I have made a note that you would like a pup from my lovely $5.00 bargain buy. Also, what strength Seasol do you use on your broms.
Karen, after they let me know that I won the $70 million lotto drawn tonight, I might just employ enough gardeners to turn our property into something to rival the Olive Branch … wouldn’t that be nice LOL.
Hi everyone – I got a bit more work done yesterday around the yard and as well as a few bits and pieces I’ve been putting off, I mulched the brom garden in the front yard as well. I’ve been putting this off as money’s been a bit tight and I couldn’t afford a load of bark. However, the other day when I was in Bunnings they had Brunnings Coco-Peat Mulch in double blocks on special for $6. These had been somewhere and got wet and all of the labels were stained and damaged hence the special. I have used this before but I’ve never seen it in a “double block” before; anyway I bought seven blocks and I’m sorry I didn’t have enough money to buy many more because just one block when re-hydrated fills a builder’s barrow just level with the top and it only took two blocks to do the main brom garden. I now have enough left to mulch the other smaller gardens with still some left over.
I think these Coco-Peat products are good value and I have used the fine Coco-Peat for quite a while now for seed sowing; it’s much cheaper option than buying Peat Moss and the results are equally as good. I have also used the medium sized chunks two years ago as a potting medium trial with some Aechmea seedlings that needed re-potting, and they really surprised me by growing so well in it. They produced a good supply of new roots much quicker than they do in my usual bark mix and quickly became established. This year I have trialled a mix of 50% bark and 50% Coco Peat chunks for some of my Neo’s, Billbergias and Aechmeas and at this stage (two months) the appearance of plenty of new roots is evident already and very encouraging.
There are also other advantages when using this product; firstly, it’s a renewable resource; it is made from a product that was previously dumped and treated as waste (coconut palm fibre from palm plantations) and it is helping people in poorer countries by providing paid work for them. Its big advantage for the gardener is the convenience; because it is dehydrated and compressed it can therefore be stored in a minimum of space and stacks easily as it is in block form. To return it to a fully re-hydrated state only takes about twenty minutes and a few litres of water. You don’t need to water as often as it has good water retaining qualities without becoming waterlogged while at the same time providing good drainage. So if you see it, give it a go as I think you’ll find it quite surprising as long as you are in a suitable climate; by this I mean I don’t think it would be suitable in the wet tropics as it would stay too wet because of the water retention qualities.
Karen – Thanks for sharing the pic’s of the “Olive Grove” with us especially those of us that are less fortunate and unable to ever get to see it for real. They really must have quite a large staff to keep up with all of the maintenance required for a property of that size.
Shirley – I love your pic of Neo. ‘Inkwell’, the angle you’ve taken it at really shows it off to full advantage.
As for your question about the Seasol (another renewable resource); I always use it at the strength advised for “stressed plants”, it probably is a bit wasteful when the plants aren’t even stressed, but it certainly doesn’t harm them (or ferns) in any way. I used it at that strength when I first used it after our January heatwave a few years back and have just used the same strength ever since.
Not much to talk about this morning so I’ll just close with a few pic’s of some Tillandsias to satisfy the Tillandsia growers among us. These were taken at various Illawarra Brom Shows and start with Pic 1 which is Til. Butsii, 2nd Pic is Til. Fuchsii, Pic 3 is Til. Tectorum, Pic. 4 is Til. Dimm's Delight and Pic 5 is one which really caught my eye as it was named "Tillandsia Garden" and entered in the Decorative Section by a novice and won first prise in the section.
Good morning. Shirley, how much did you win? Are you taking us all out to lunch? When I saw the lines at the newsagency, I didn't bother trying to get a ticket. I think I'd still be there in the line, waiting.
Nev, it is hard to show it all in a few pics. There is the main house area with its own stunning array of plants. Then the gardens are so much more diverse than we've seen, as bromeliads mix with rare and colourful plants which you see by wandering through the pathways and trails over more acres. I really don't think we got to see it all. There is a lovely cactus garden and lots of tropical rainforest type plants including a rare New Guinea Fig. I'll put a pic up to show you that one. That Coco-Peat Mulch sounds great. I've got Seasol here, but don't use it as much as I should. Those are lovely tillandsias there. Mine are not so advanced, but I am rather excited to see some of them producing pups. This means they'll start to clump and start looking more exciting. A lot haven't started yet though so I guess some are slower than others.
Wendy, I thought I did well at Olives. I got those 4 plants for $33 with the discount (entry fee reimbursement), and the most expensive one was the variegated cynea. I hope we can get down there on the weekend. It depends a lot. My ex had a heart attack last night and has been flown to Brisbane for treatment. I want to be on hand for my kids if they need me, but am hoping he will be home by then. I'm still waiting for more news.
Hope everyone has a lovely day.
The most beautiful bill. Hallelujah is flowering again. Can't stop photographing it.
Off topic, the rare New Guinea Fig showing the flower. It can't be propagated here as it needs a certain type of wasp which isn't found in Australia.
Also from Olive's a brom with no name that caught my eye.
Good morning. No. not travelling yet! I will definitely let you all know when that begins. Hubbys Dad passed away suddenly, after a long battle with cancer and there was alot to do, as well as it involved travelling over long distances not once, but twice. Its still ongoing, but I am now home, enjoying the sunshine and trying to catch up with the mowing and gardens, aswell as the household stuff.
So, as you can imagine, the broms have been on the back burner, but luckily they just take care of themselves.
I am envious of all the garden visitors who went to Len and Olives! I went there a year or so ago, but didn't get the grand garden tour, just attended the sales and a chat with len. I did get some great plants when there, and will definitley get back there one day! Everyone looks as though they got some lovely scores!
Sorry to hear you have a cold, Wendy. I picked one up off a very cute, but germy, baby! That will teach me to go all ga-ga over one! I wasn't the only one, as nearly everyone who attended the wake, and cuddled the kid, all got a cold! I find good old panadol is enough to ease the throat pain, as I've never had much difference in symptoms when using the cold and flu tablets, and they cost a fortune! Rest, eat well, drink enough water, and it will go in two weeks! You can't stop a cold and you can't make it go faster! I'm being slefish and keeping it all to myself, but I do hope hubby doesn't contract it, because then it becomes the man-flu! And we all know how terrible that can be!
Anyway, I am going to attempt to mow the wettest parts of the lawn, as after three days of sunshine, they might be dry enough so the mower wheels don't sink? Around here, it pays to make hay when the sun shines, as rain is always just around the corner!
Chat again soon
Hi everyone. Sue it's good to see you back again. sorry about your father in law. I guess it is good to catch up with family though. we always keep saying we should have a family reunion without waiting for a funeral but we never get around to planning one. Silly of us isn't it?
We went back to Olive's today and picked up a ute FULL of free plants from her scrap heap. She showed me what was in there on Saturday and there were about 6 huge carch silvers there on their sides. Olive said they had a problem with them all rotting that's why they were there. I was hoping we could get at least one of these as I did see there were pups on several of them. But Olive moved them to one side and said they were hoping the pups wouldn't rot like the mothers. Ah well. I'll have to buy one.
Anyways we got sever huge clumps of blanchetiana hybrids, aechmea aquil...? (pic posted on FB tonight), portea leptanthus (I wanted one of those), a couple pots of fasciata hybrids, several huge clumps of sun king (Olive called then Caribbean sunset but said they were also known as sunking and several other names) and a couple overflowing pots of neos. and when I picked up 2 full grown till fasiculatas to move them out of the way Olive said to throw them on the ute too as they would be good in a tree. Unfortunately we forgot to take them off the ute so they came home with us. Mean aren't I but it was Johnny who said they were coming home with us. I probably already have them anyway but we will soon see as one has a flower spike coming. I'll give Chris one of ours when he comes here next time. He alreayd has some we put in a tree last time we were there. When we left his place today Dave (Jess' step dad) was trying to get the mowing done quickly so he could start planting the new broms. We cleaned them all up and separated them so he only had to plant them. I hope they will grow straight in the ground.
Shirley I also got one of those NOID aechmeas in your 2nd pic. Olive did tell me the name of it but in my flu fuddled mind it did not compute. I'll have to ask her again. I think your marble one is probably the same as the one Karen got and Olive named it on FB so Karen should be able to tell you the name of it. I'll post pics of my new ones tomorrow. Off to bed now.
Hi everyone – I had a bit of a “brain wave” yesterday and thought I’d go back to Bunnings and get some more of the cheap mulch blocks so I could put it on the shade house floor, but alas there was only four left so I got them for future garden mulching anyway.
Karen – Looking at the last pic of Olive’s plant, was it called Aechmea Ornata? It looks like the flowers are yet to open, but the habit of the plant along with the very sharp tips on the leaves look a bit like one I have called Ae Ornata. There are two different ones and Ae. Ornata is the plain green one and Ae. Ornata ‘Nationalis’ is a variegated form. They have beautiful light purple coloured flowers but they are terribly savage with those vicious spines on the leaf tips. (I’ll post pic’s of both for you to see.)
Sue – Good to see you still keeping in touch. Please pass on my condolences to Bill on the loss of his Dad. I guess now you’re back home again after all the travelling you need to put your feet up (but you can still use the ride-on with your feet up can’t you).
It seems like it’s “cold” weather; everyone I seem to talk to has a cold. They say there is no cure, but I suspect that a cure has been found many times and the big pharmaceutical companies just buy the sole rights to the remedy so it never comes on the market. They have so much invested in “cold treatments” a remedy would kill their profits overnight. I think there’s a lot of truth in the old saying that “if you have a cold and go to the doctor it will be cured in fourteen days and if you don’t see a doctor it will run its course and be gone in two weeks!” That’s good advise you give Sue when you say, “rest, eat well, drink enough water “, I personally always use the cold and flu tablets, have done so for years; but they won’t cure the cold, they just help with the stuffed up nose and the aches and pains.
Incidentally, I must agree with you to a certain degree, but “Man Flu” doesn’t strike all men fortunately, nor does “Women Flu” strike down all young women. True they all feel crook and have a sore throat and runny nose, but not flu of any kind. These victims should understand that flu (influenza) is a serious disease that can kill, and a sore throat and a runny nose doesn’t equate to flu! I can honestly say I’ve never had the flu or “man flu” for that matter, but I’ve had many colds over the years. I personally think the words “flu” and “migraine” are the two most incorrectly and commonly overused words in our vocabulary and should be removed from the English language altogether! Anyway, thanks for stirring me up Sue and getting me off the track.
Wendy – It looks like you got a good haul of “freebies” and now have a lot of extra work ahead for Chris and you both. By the time you have finished planting, the new place will look like the “botanical gardens”.
You mention “Sun King” in your “goodies” is it the Neo Sun King or an unregistered Aechmea? How about some pic’s so we can all see?
I’ll just close now with a few pic’s, Pic 1 is Ae. Ornata, Pic 2 is Ae. Ornata ‘Nationalis’ and Pic’s 3, 4 and 5 are more Till’s from one of our shows.
Wendy, I have an N. 'Carribean Sunset' from leisa, and never could find out much about it, but was certain it had N. 'Sun King' in it? The first plant never did much, and stayed green, but its subsequent pups all coloured up rather orange, with red vertical striping under the leaves. I saw a beatiful Sun King up at Vickis, Wendy, that she was growing tuff in the truck yard. It was awesome. I might move one of the Carribean sunset pups into full sun this winter and acclimatise it? I also thought it was from the same stable as N. 'Cockabell' but can't remember what piece of literature I read that in! Or maybe I got it mixed up? Well done with your freebies from olives, and it was probably best that you didn't get those Silvers, as rot can spread very easily into a collection, and you wouldn't want to lose the lot for the sake of a cheap, sick plant! Better to savve up and get a healthy one eh? I have a 'Silver' x 'Skotaks Tiger', but it is only a tubby bubby at the mo.
Anyway, you're right Nev, about the flu. I think I had it once, and was hot and cold, slept alot, and was very ill. All I have is a common cold, but its bad enough! The second day was the worst, and now I'm into the third, it isn't too bad, just alot of nose blowing and coughing. I use a lanoline based cream around my nose, as it is getting rather sore! Thats one of the worst things about getting a cold, in my mind. Other than that, I don't feel too bad, and had a rather busy day around the house. I also put a couple of Vrieseas in the exhibition at the Coffs show this weekend, and a couple of mounts, one with an unidentified Tillandsia and one with two different neos and another till. This is the first time I have entered anything anywhere, so we will see how it goes. i might be able to offer prize winning plants at my next sale?
I've always like A. ornata 'Nationalis'. I believe it is quite a big plant? I saw one at Richards place a couple of years back, and it was just coming into flower. I'm sure I recall it being tall?
Anyway, I must get out and take some pic to share with you. I haven't seen much of interest going on in my broms at the moment, but maybe I'm not looking hard enough!
Hi everyone. No, I haven't got lost in the SH, I took my guide dog out there with me so that he could lead me to the entrance. Sue great to see you back in here. Sorry to hear about Bill's Dad. Give him my sincere wishes. The pics from Olive's have been wonderful. Thanks for sharing everyone. I'm a bit like Nev and probably will never get to see anything like that so keep them coming please. I had better pop in the tea room for a cuppa or they really will think that i've got lost. See you all tomorrow. Colleen
Karen, no lotto win this week unfortunately but ‘ya gotta be in it to win it’. Apparently 3 people shared first division on Tuesday night, winning about $25 million each but no-one from Qld. I would like to see it spread around 60 or 70 people with $1 million or so each … and I would very much like to be one of them … oh well !!! That really is a lovely flower on the bill Hallelujah.
Wendy, lucky you with your truck load of freebies. If you happen to find out the name of that aechmea from Olives, please let me know ... and I will see you tomorrow.
Colleen, your shadehouse looks like a nice place to lose yourself. I know I lose track of everything when I’m out amongst my plants … great therapy, I reckon.
Anyway, another early night tonight,
Bye for now, Shirley
Pics are Guzmania Sunnytime / neo medusa / aechmea fasciata
Hi everyone – Well at last I’ve made a start on my preparations for winter and yesterday I “Seasolled” half of my collection of brom’s. Hopefully if the weather is good again, I’ll finish the other half today. I mix my Seasol up in a 100Lt container and pump it through a garden hose and watering wand and 200Lt does half of the collection. I have one of those watering wands that you can adjust the flow of the water or you can turn it on or off as required so it’s very handy when you’re watering if you see something that requires further investigation you can just turn it off while you check things out.
I find this part of growing brom’s (whether it’s Seasolling or watering) is most enjoyable and relaxing and really gives me the chance to look at my plants. My friends all tell me that with a collection the size of mine I should have a sprinkler system rigged up to save time; but as well as saving time I wouldn’t get the enjoyment out of looking at the plants that I do now when I hand water.
Often with sprinkler systems you can have an unnoticed “dead spot”, perhaps in a corner or some other area that doesn’t get the required amount of water and because you can’t view what’s happening when the sprinklers are on you tend to not identify this problem. Likewise with outbreaks of scale or other insect pests if you are hand watering you tend to pick up these things and do something about them immediately, whereas with sprinklers they may go undetected until they are a major problem which then requires drastic action.
Sue – I’m reading with interest what you and Wendy say about Neo. Carribean ‘Sunset' and Neo. ‘Sun King’. What you say about Neo Carribean ‘Sunset’ is correct; it does have Neo ‘Sun King’ in its breeding. According to the BCR it is a cross between Neo ‘Sun King’ (seed parent) and Neo Catherine Wilson (pollen parent). Also the records show that Neo Sun King is a c.v. of Neo Cruenta.
After seeing all of this I have come to the conclusion that the Sun King I have is a different plant altogether and has been wrongly named as it looks nothing like the pic’s of the ones that are registered. Like most growers I can only go by the name that’s on the plant when I buy it and until I can prove differently that’s the name that stays on the label. When professionals say “Never trust the name on a label” I can but agree with them as so often you find it’s incorrect.
Getting back to my Neo ‘Sun King’ which incidentally is called Neo ‘Sun King’ (Red form), it is a medium sized plant with light green foliage, a bit of reddish spotting and a brilliant “eye catching” red centre with vicious spikes along the edge of the leaves, and doesn’t fit the descriptions nor look like the pic’s of the registered Neo. Sun King so it seems I have an imposter! (See pic.)
Regarding Ae Ornalis and Ae Ornalis ‘Nationalis’, I grow both plants and I find that under my conditions Ae Ornalis grows to about 18”-20” high and Neo Ornalis ‘Nationalis” marginally smaller.
It’s good to see you sharing your plants with others by showing them in the Coffs Harbour Show, and good luck. Is it Garden Club, Brom Society or Agricultural show? I’m just curious as I didn’t think there was a Brom Society at Coffs Harbour. I showed for a few years but it wasn’t because of the “will to win” or the prize money (which was next to nothing), but for me it was a chance to show and share my plants with others and promote this wonderful hobby. However I did find that showing was a whole new “ball game”, and plants were judged on a far different criteria than I ever used. Unfortunately some people take it so seriously that it takes all the fun out of showing and even though the judge’s decision is final, I’ve still seen a lot of whinging and arguing over results.
Colleen – That’s a nice show of plants you have there. I wouldn’t worry too much about going to the “Olive Grove” to look at gardens, because the way you’re heading you’ll soon have a massive brom garden yourself.
Shirley – You have three nice plants there and they are very popular among growers. I think Ae Fasciata is still one of the biggest selling brom’s in the world, even though it was first introduced into Europe way back in the 1800’s. Guzmania ‘Sunny Time’ makes a nice contrast against the red of the Neo Medusa. (It’s a pity all Neo. leaves weren’t spineless like Medusa). I have another Guzzie called Guz ‘Hilda’ which also has an attractive yellow flower and I bought it at the same time as I bought ‘Sunny Time’ both as small tissue cultured plants. I find that these two plants stand up to the cold much better than some of the other Guzzies I have so that has to be a plus.
I’ll just close now with a few pic’s, Pic 1 is Neo ‘Sun King’ (Red Form) ...the unregistered plant I spoke about above. Pic 2 is Acanthostachys strobilacea, Pic 3 is Acanthostachys pitcairnioides (with it's vicious spines), Pic 4 is Guz. Cherry Ripe and Pic 5 is Guz Crimson Wonder.
Good morning. Just stopped in to catch up with the posts today as I am off to catch me a bus. Going to spend more time walking. Did a good walk yesterday, and want to keep that going as I feel better for it this morning. If I steer clear of hills, the angina doesn't affect me.
Great to see the pics. Those Guz. are lovely. For some reason I've never taken to them though.
Hello and good evening!
Colleen, your SH is looking great, with hippies flowering and epis too! Is that a current pic? Its all looking very colourfull! I hope you get to somehwere as wonderful as Olives, as I know you would enjoy yourself immensly, and its very inspiring to see so many bromeliads in the landscape.
Shirley, I had a go at the lotto, but it wasn't me that one! Darn! There goes $10 I'll never get back! heh heh. Could have bought some nice plants with all that moolah! Your pics are lovely, and I'm a big fan of N. 'Medusa' and also A. fasciata, as its one of the first broms most collectors start out with.
I'm with you Nev, on the hand watering, specifically so i can check on the health of my plants. although, just spotting the problem doesn't result in an immediate fix, because I am so easily side tracked! I have noticed a bit of scale on the older mums, and will wait for the next overcast day to do an oil spray.
The show is the local Ag show, I think, with rides and sideshows, a rodeo e.t.c.. I'm not sure if I'll go and look, but a good friend who is involved, asked me to enter to help add to the displays, and promoting bromeliads can't be a bad thing? I might go and have a look tomorrow, if its not too exxy. I didn't see much there in the way of broms, that to my mind, looked veryu special. Some had the dead leaf tips cut off, and there was no effort made to shape the cut ends. I've seen better specimens in Big W and bunnings! I was a bit nervous about leaving my babies in trust to the show volunteers, but if all goes awry, I won't have a spaz! Thats the chances we take eh?
Nev, I was surprised to see that the Acanthostchys pitcairnioides flower is set down so low in amongst the plant! I had thought it might look a little like the pineapple type on Acan. strobilacea? It kinda reminds me more of an orthophytum? The two you sent me are growing well, and hopefully will show me a flower soon?
I had a little peek down the throat of my broms this afternoon, and found Portea kermesina has a spike forming, and also Aechmea 'lucky Stripes' and alot of the guzmanias too. So in a few weeks i should have some flower pics to show.
Anyway, I've knocked back an invite to go to the Port Macquarie orchid and brom show, tomorrow! How sad is that? I just feel too full of the sniffles, and don't want to share it about, not to mention theres been alot of long distance driving done over the last two weeks, and I am keen to spend a weekend at home!
Hello karen, you make me feel guilty! I should get out for a walk too! maybe tomorrow?
Righto, better get my man some dinner!
I meant to get an early night tonight before our big selling weekend. We've already had two big spenders through so the petty cash tin is cashed up. that'll cover the bill from Garden City Plastics last week. LOL and a ute load of potting mix went on credit card so still have to pay for that one. fingers crossed for a good one.
Olive called the neos caribean sunset but she said they were known by several names including sun king. I didnt' realise one was a hybrid of the other. W'lll have to change the label to caribean sunset now. Today I went to pot the pup Johnny took off portea leptantha we took out to Chris (from Olive's) but Johnny has taken a pup of the aechmea aquilega instead. I even pointed out which one I wanted a pup from. men... now I still don't have a leptantha. I'll have to go out to Daybora and get one another time but will have to wait for a pup now as they probably have them planted out already.
Nev one of Johnny's favourite guzmanias that he bought way back when he first started collecting them was guz hilda. I love th big yellow flower on that one. We have some really stunning yellow guzies. (see pic1). we also have sunnytime, kopoho fire, decora, mandina, and many more. Unfortunately we haven't many flowering now for mother's day. Wish I knew what they do to make them flower o demand. too late now so they'll have to buy neos instead.
Anyway I must be off to bed before I fall asleep here at the computer.
I do enjoy looking at all your garden pics.
I found a nice surprise down in my fernhouse yesterday.
This large brom has been living down there since it came here with all the epi collection in 2006. It flowered in 2009 and now one of the large pups has a flower.
I left the mother down there as she is very spiky and large ( about 2 'across ) when mature, She is even bigger now with about 3 pups attached. I am not venturing among the spikes to remove any . They all seem happy there.
I was told it was aech. Mary Brett once but to me it doesnt look like the pictures I have seen of Mary Brett.
Sue may remember me putting the mother flower on back in 2009 to try and ID it.
The flower starts out as a nice bright red then as it opens , it turns yellow and blue.
The flowers last for months and the original 2009 flower is s till attached to the mother. I never got around to removing it.
pic 1 is the flower yesterday
pic 2 is the flower from 2009
pic 3 is 2009 flower open further.
pic 4 is the back shadehouse where I have just moved all the largest broms from the greenhouse.
They were taking over and I couldnt get around properly to look after them. I have had a few out in this shadehouse for a couple if years so hopefully all these others will do as well there.
I would like to know the name of the mystery brom, but I still like it without a name.
Hi everyone – Yesterday wasn’t such a good day for me after all. It started out OK and I finished Seasolling everything, but when I went into the Neo shade house to have a look around, I discovered that something has been pulling out all the ripe seed pods in my Neo’s. Firstly as I entered I noticed something white in the cups of a couple of Neo’s and on closer inspection I found it was the white seed capsules. I can only assume it was a rat as I thought I heard something scurrying away the other day when I went in there but just thought it may have been a large skink. The bloke over the back fence has chooks and I think the rats come in to eat the chook food. Anyway I gave him something nice to eat; some nice pumpkin seed. The only thing though, is that it’s attached to a Rat Trap! Fortunately they were wild pollinated seed pods and not something I had crossed so it’s not the drama it first appeared.
Karen – I’m a bit like you and didn’t fancy Guzmanias very much either until I realised the true value of them as a flowering plant for inside the house. The flowers stay good for months and months and it’s certainly much cheaper than buying flowers from a florist which (if you’re lucky) only last for a week or two anyway.
Sue – It’s good to see you supporting your local agricultural show and as I said in a previous post, it’s not about winning prizes but promoting these wonderful plants to the public. These little shows seem to be a dying breed, and there was a sad event down here last year as the Illawarra Agricultural Society “folded” due to lack of support and it was sadly in its 100th year.
The Acanthostchys pitcairnioides that I gave you was a seedling I grew from seed given to me by a friend who said it had nice mauve/purple flowers and like you I assumed (and we all know why we shouldn’t assume) that they would be just the same as the flowers on the Acanthostchys strobilacea. The other thing she didn’t tell me about were the spikes, they’re really something for a small plant aren’t they?
I’m a bit surprised when you say that your Ae. Lucky Stripes are now coming into flower as mine have been out for well over a month and as you’re further north I thought yours would have been out before mine. On the other hand, there’s no sign of any flowers in my Guzmanias yet so you’re ahead of me with those.
Bad luck about not feeling up to going to the Port Macquarie Orchid and Brom show, I hear they have a pretty good show up there and you never know, Jack Koning might even be showing some of his new hybrids, although I don’t know if he shows or not. So I guess a weekend at home relaxing in your own garden is a good alternative anyway.
Wendy – I have to agree with you about Guz. Hilda, it was one of the first I ever bought also, and I still look forward to the beautiful clear yellow flowers each year. My Guzzies did suffer a lot from cold damage in the early years and I did lose interest in them, So much so that I just put them down the back in a shady part of the garden beneath shade cloth. This seems to have been just the shock they needed as they have grown and flowered beautifully every year since and never a sign of cold damage even though they are in a lower part of the yard than they were previously and don’t get any more protection. They must just be in a little pocket of the garden that suits them, so that’s where they’ll be staying.
As for getting your plants to flower for Mother’s Day or any other day for that matter, the big growers just “gas” them. Some use acetylene gas, others put some sort of chemical in the cup which when it mixes with the water in the cup produces the same, or similar gas. Some of the really big nurseries which are fully automated can almost flower their plants to the required the day, they have it worked out so well. Another way is to put an apple on top of the pot and seal the whole plant in a bag. The ripening apple gives off the same sort of gas and does the same job albeit not as reliably. Sue could probably tell you more about it as I think it was her who was telling me she once worked for a nursery that did this type of thing.
There is one other thing you need to be aware of though and that is the old rule that if you stuff around with “Mother Nature” she’ll come back and bite you on the bum? By this I mean that you sometimes get deformed flowers (and deformed new pups) and it also stuffs up the flowering cycle of the plant by causing immature plants to flower out of season. I have an Aechmea I bought once that was flowering as a result of gas and it took another four years for me to get subsequent pups which flowered normally as they should. I guess the moral of the story is, when you buy gassed plants, look on them just as a “bunch of flowers” as that’s all they’re meant to be.
Now for a few more pic’s to finish with; Pic 1 is a close up of an Acanthostachys strobilacea flower to really show its true beauty, Pic 2 is Nidularium Litmus before it starts the colour change (I’ll post progressive pic’s as the colour changes), Pic 3 is one I got from Jen and is called Neo Bold Streak x Mc Williamsii (there is also an almost identical one going around called Neo Blake Street Beauty) Pic 4 is Aechmea Rakete which looks to be a pretty ordinary looking plant however the beauty of this plant lies beneath the leaves (Pic 5) and for that reason it needs to be hung rather than placed on a bench.
Hi Wendy, jean and Nev, Wendy I hope your sale goes well. I am sure they always do, as you have such a good variety of healthy plants. As to flowering, the nurseries use a product on the broms, (florel, or something like that) when they are of flowering size, that takes 12-16 weeks to produce flowers, and they have it down to a science! Generally, they know how long it takes to grow a plant from tissue culture to flowering size, and at what week to spray to induce flowering. They have batches planted a week apart so that they have a continual supply of flowering product. Sometimes the spray can drift to neighbouring batches, which can result in the smaller than ususal flowering plants you sometimes see at the markets. These are sold as seconds to the market sellers, and may still go on to produce pups that go on to grow normally and flower, but some are just too small and don't have the energy. I like your idea, Nev, that you just buy themn to use like a cut flower, and if they go on, well and good. I have heard that placing the plant in a plastic bag with a ripening apple will induce flowering in 12-16 weeks also. Maybe we should all experiment? I assume (I know I shouldn't) that the plant is only placed in a plastic bag for a day or two, because we all know bromeliads like good air circulation! I have a stubborn plant that has never flowered, in fact maybe more than one, and I have a rather ripe apple that I could use, so perhaps if I can find some large bags, I will have a go in the next day or two and see if I get any results. I'll keep you posted!
I went to the Ag show today, and was pleasantly surprised to see my Vriesea "kiwi Sunset' got first prize and show champion also! I feel a bit cheeky, because I have seen some much better grown plants in local collections, but if they don't enter them, no one will ever know! My Tillansia mounts also got first and second, so I am feeling a bit pleased with myself * blush* The bromeliad that got second was a bit of a surprise to me, as it was green, and nothing else. No flower, no foliage markings or colour, and I could only hazard a guess that it might have been an Aechmea? I think they gave it to someone else to be fair (I mean, I got more than my fair share!) and It looked as though it was very healthy and unmarked on the leaves, whereas some of the other exhibited broms were a bit, well, lets say in garden condition. Anyway, it was a bit of fun, and i think I win $2 or something like that! heh heh. I might try a bit harder next year, if I am still growing things, and enter something special, maybe?
Anyway, I have put a pic of Neoregelia 'Carribean Sunset' in first and second (and its not related to cockabell, I was thinking of N. 'Calypso'
the next two are a Billbergia that is growing in the garden, but I have no ID for. It threw a variegated plant two years ago, which i have potted, and is now producing its 3rd and 4th variegated pup, and the mature plant is about to flower, so i will put in a pic of that when the time is right
Jean, I can see a similarity to A. 'Mary brett' in your pictured plant, but mary brett is not a very large plant, at least, not when grown in the sun, and the flower is quite short lived. I'm not familiar with an Aechmea that has that type of flower. Did you have no ideas nev?
Nev, I have Aechmea 'Rakete' too. Has yours ever flowered for you? MAybe thats one to try the apple trick on? I might mount mine in the tree ferns, at eye level, as you are right, the best colour is on the underside of the leaves.
I will leave you with pics of my prize winning plants! heh heh. I feel rather sheepish!
ps, you can just see in the right front, next to the A. fasciata, my Vriesea 'Kiwi Dusk' one of my favourite Vrieseas.
Hi Sue, Jean, Nev, Colleen, Karen, Jen, Shirley, Kristi and anyone else I forgot to mention.
Well done Sue on your prize winning plants. You'll be able to bring out those certificates whenever you sell pups off those plants. I can just see the pics on ebay now LOL
Karen, sorry I didn't get a chance for a chat today. we were so quiet first thing this morning and then suddenly when Jen turned up at about 1pm so did the customers and we were flat out. anway I hope you got the plants you wanted with no help from me. I'm sure Jen fixed you up. Nev funny you mentioned Blake Street Beauty, which is a sport of Manoa Beauty. We have so many of those. Anyhow one of our manoa beauty plants last year threw 3 pups all totally different to mum and each other. One of them is pure deep red and I have now taken a really nice deep red pup off it. They are both stunning. I mentioned that because apparently Karen asked Jen today if I had a pup off one of the other sports from those 3. Karen that one hasn't yet pupped but as soon as it does I will let you know. Tomorrow I'll take the camera downstairs with me and I'll find all 3 sports and the pup an I'll take pics of them for you.
We also have ae rakete and I agree it is a stunning site from below. we like to put it in the top of a totem so we can see the underside of it. whenever I pot up a pup and put it out for sale it doesn't take long.
On Thursday I went through all the flowering vriseas and guzmanias to find any with a flower coming to put out for mothers day. Hardly any. Yesterday I looked at same plants and found a couple more. Then today I was looking for something else and there were a couple more with colour starting. They change from one day to next. Tomorrow I'm sure I'll find a couple more.
Nev I'm giving up on waiting for more seed from that noetigii and I will send your seed on Monday. I'll send the nidulariums to Ari as well.
Early night for me tonight so I'll say goodnight now.
We had a lovely morning at Wendy & Johnny’s yesterday. I was happily gathering together a nice collection of broms to buy when Michael pulled me aside and quietly asked “have you got any money, I’ve left my wallet at home”. Well, this is my second brom sale in a week, so of course I didn’t have any money. Luckily Wendy & Johnny trusted us not to leave town and we took our lovely broms home and then made a bank transfer. Thanks so much Wendy … Michael is still highly embarrassed. Hope your sale continues to go well and hope your other customers bring their money with them.
We got some real beauties, a mix of neos, vrieseas and a guz too … I will post photos shortly.
Nev, hope you got your rat. Lovely photos as always. I agree that a living plant is a much better option than a bunch of cut flowers. While flowers are lovely, they last such a short time.
Sue, congrats on your prize winning plants. I love the kiwi vrieseas too and I am now the proud owner of a lovely little kiwi cream, thanks to Wendy. I am hoping to get a few more from the range, they are real stunners. And one day (might have to follow a lotto win) a vriesea ‘Dads Favourite’ too ... just beautiful.
That’s about it from me tonight. I hope all you Mums (and Nanas) have a great Mothers’ Day tomorrow.
Hi everyone – Firstly, Happy Mother’s Day to all the Mums on this site, I hope you all have a wonderful day and that Hubby or some other kind person decides to surprise you with a nice brom for a Mother’s Day Pressie.
Sue – Like you, I can see some similarities to Ae. Mary Brett in the flower on Jean’s plant but also like you, I’ve only ever seen them as much smaller plants. Maybe it’s a hybrid from Mary Brett crossed with something larger hence the larger size of the plant.
You ask about whether my Aechmea 'Rakete' has flowered. The answer is no, but then I only got it as a pup about six months ago and I’m not even sure how large they grow. As far as maturity goes I don’t take much notice of the little pup poking its head up as this could just be premature due to the plant being disturbed and travelling for five days inside a dark box, as I’ve had this sort of thing happen before; besides, I’m really not all that concerned about flowers anyway as the great colour beneath the leaves was the main reason I bought it.
Congratulations on your wins at the show, I know we don’t show specifically for the prizes (or the large amount of prize money Ha! Ha!) but it is still nice to get the recognition that you have the best plant there doesn’t it? That’s great colour you’ve got in your Kiwi ‘Sunset’ where have you had it growing? I love your arrangement on the piece of wood also, very artistic! What is the little ?Tillandsia on the right hand side of your arrangement? I don’t recognise it but it looks very attractive.
As for the plant that got second and was just green without a flower and no foliage markings or colour, if the judge’s were actually bromeliad judges they also take into account the quality of the plant, the rarity of the plants as well as the degree of difficulty to grow it and what’s more brom show rules don’t say that a plant must be in flower either, so that may help you to understand why it got the second prize.
I notice in your second pic of 'Carribean Sunset', it has a bit of radial red lining on the underside of the leaves, is this normal for this plant or is it just something that turned up in this particular pup/plant? The Bill you have growing in the garden looks similar to one I have in my garden which I was told is one of the many different types of Bill amoena. Is the colour of the bracts in the pic the true colour or is it more of a salmon pink as is mine?
Wendy – It’s interesting what you say about the sports from the Manoa Beauty all being different; are any of them coloured like Blake Street Beauty? It seems that Manoa Beauty isn’t as stable as we all thought it was. I have another variegated brom (either Neo Orange Glow, Orange Flush, Orange Gem or some name sounding like that) which every year puts up two pups, one variegated and one plain. The variegated pups always go on to do the same thing but the plain pups when they mature only ever produce plain pups like themself. I don’t think man/woman will ever understand all there is to know about these plants as there’s always some new thing popping up to bamboozle everyone of us.
It seems like none of the other flowers on your noetigii managed to get pollinated so it looks like we’ll just have to make the best of what seed we get.
I haven’t bothered checking my Guzzies for flowers yet as next week I’ll be tidying them all up and dead leafing anyway so I may get some nice surprises then.
Shirley – Fancy going to a brom sale without any money. That’s the beauty of buying brom’s off friends rather than someone you don’t know, you can still get your plants and pay later. I hope you got some more nice ones to add to your collection.
Unfortunately I didn’t catch the rat. The trap was “off” but no rat. When I looked more closely at the trap (again it was like everything else and made in China) it wasn’t made correctly and the wire bit that’s supposed to break their neck when it hits the wooden base was wrongly positioned and didn’t line up with the wooden base. It left a small amount of clearance and probably resulted in him just getting a sore neck instead of a broken one. Oh why can’t we get good Australian products anymore?
They’re nice looking plants in the pic’s; there’s a certain attraction to the spiky ones isn’t there? I had a few Hannibal Lectors, Machos and Tigers but I found they kept biting me and I was losing too much blood so I’ve got rid of them all except the two Skotak Tigers, I just couldn’t part with those two as I got them from good brom friends (Sue and Paul).
A few more pic’s and I’m off to breakfast; Pic 1 is for all the Mums and is made of Cryptanthus in the Nong Nooch Tropical Gardens in Thailand, Pic two is some Guzzies for Wendy and is also from the same gardens, Pic 3 is my Vriesea Megan , Pic 4 is Till. Bulbosa from our show and Pic 5 is Ae.‘Blood Stain’ (Unregistered) also from our show.
Thanks for the comments on my aechmea. I like it even if it does bite sometimes.
I did buy a brom labelled as "Mary Brett "so I could compare flowers but it hasnt flowered yet.
It is certainly a much smaller plant even though it pups madly.
Some of the leaves on the noid one are about 28"long , so you see why I leave it live in the corner out of the way.
Nev, we have had a bit of a plague of mice & rats in the area lately..
Thankfully the rats seem to have gone but still plenty of mice around. Probably due to the neighbors hay shed near out back gate.
Hubby bought some new mouse & rat traps from Woollies supermarket.
They are really great. Not wood like the old ones, these are hard black plastic and very good at getting the mice.
Hubby uses peanut butter as bait. Try one, but watch your fingers, they are touchy.
The larger rat ones will catch mice very well too.
Hi everyone. Just a short post from me today. Am trying to avoid a trip to the hospital by being very quiet and still, to see if an arrythmia will settle down. Awful feeling. Guess the tablets that are supposed to stop it happening are not working. I was supposed to go to the Coast to Kerry's today for Mother's Day, but there is just no way I could do it.
Happy Mother's Day to anyone and everyone who nurtures life, be it children, animals, birds, fish, or plants.
Went to Wendy's sale yesterday and got this lovely Neo. Grace Red USA
and from Jen this neo. Gympie Lavender Lace beauty.
Johnny performed surgery on my vriesea Splenriet and hey presto, I got 2 lovely pups from it. Sorry I didn't take pics yet. But thanks Johnny.
Hi everyone – I hope all of you Mothers had a wonderful Mother’s Day yesterday, I know my wife did with one of our sons and our daughter and their families here for a BBQ lunch. Our other son and his family rang up from Bali where they live so that “put the icing on the cake” for Mum.
Also to all our other members who don't seem to want to post anymore, I hope it's not due to illness and if it is, "Get Well Soom"
Is there anyone here with the computer knowledge to start a new thread for May? I know I can’t and previously Tash used to do it but we haven’t heard from her for a while. What about you Sue, are you still looking in?
Jean – Thanks for the tip on where to get decent mouse and rat traps and also about using Peanut Butter to attract them to the trap. I had some success yesterday with the rat trap I modified, and when I went down to check it yesterday I was pleased to see I had caught one of the little buggers. (He won’t eat any more seed pods off my brom’s!) It seems the modification I made to the trap worked well and I’m hopeful of catching more. He was only half grown so I reckon he has some brothers and sisters somewhere so I re-set the trap as I want to get them all before they start breeding and we end up with dozens of them. I’ll get a couple more traps from "Woolies" if they have them down here and set them with Peanut Butter and position them in a few different places.
Karen – I do hope your arrhythmia settles down OK, I know exactly what you mean; it’s such a rotten feeling. Fortunately, since I started taking the Warfarin I haven’t had another episode so obviously the thinner blood does the trick for me.
I like the pic’s of your Neo Grace Red USA and Neo Gympie Lavender Lace they are two plants I don’t have. I have Neo Grace and Neo Grace USA but not the same one as you. I suspected the Neo Gympie Lavender Lace may have been one of Margaret Patterson’s hybrids so I looked it up on the BCR and was surprised to find there were no less than forty two other “Gympies” registered; most of them from a Patterson cross between Neo ‘Satsuma’ x Neo ‘Little Dazzler’. This is a bit surprising as quite a lot of them weren’t even as good as their “Little Dazzler” parent and in my opinion weren’t even worth registering. I was once told that for a plant to be registered, it should be something really “special” and a real "standout" from the others and at the very least look equal to or better than the parent/s. But quite a lot of these were pretty "ordinary" (in my opinion) and looked very similar and were certainly nothing "special". I would suggest you look at the BCR and draw your own conclusions, I would be intersted to hear what you think.
Once again, a few more pic’s to finish with and I must say I’m starting to run out of pic’s you haven’t seen before so I’ll have to get the camera out and take a few more. Today’s five pic’s are all from the 2009 Illawarra Bromeliad Society Show: Pic 1 is the main display, Pic 2 is Aechmea Recurvata, Pic 3 is Bill. Euphemie Georgia, Pic 4 is Neo Rosella, Pic 5 is Neo. Grey Nurse
Hi everyone. Hope you all had a lovely Mother's day weekend and got very spoiled.
Nev, I started to look at the Gympie's but there were too many and too slow to download each pic so I gave up. I like my LavNLace one. Have seen quite a few different Gympies on eBay. Some are OK, others didn't stand out much at all.
Off to do some bird watching in the park. I just hope I can wander around slowly. Going to try, anyway. Taking my camera, just in case.
It has suddenly turned very cold here. We have been enjoying the best weather, lovely warm sunny days and cuddly, cooler nights but the temp has dropped about 5 degrees today and there’s a chilly wind. Apparently it’s going to be even colder tomorrow.
Yes Nev, I got some nice broms from Wendy to add to my rapidly growing collection. I will add a couple of pics tonight and again over the next couple of nights. That neo Grey Nurse in your pic is very nice … I love the variegated neos, especially the larger growing ones.
I don’t know how to start a new thread but if someone can tell me how, I will be happy to do it each month.
Karen, did you enjoy your walk in the park. Hope you are feeling much better now and your arrhythmia has settled down.
Pics are two of my new broms from Wendy’s collection – No 1 is ‘Megan’ No 2 is ‘Marble Snow’
Nice scores there, Shirley. I think I actually saw that Marble Snow plant, or one very like it. Always a feast for the eyes at John and Wendy's.
And yest, it is rather cool here this morning. I actually got up in the early hours and crawled under the doona.
Another short visit today, as I have an early doctors appointment. Nothing major today, thank goodness. The AF has settled down and I'm back to
wow, nice pics.. if you aren't already, you should be entering some of these amazing shots in the plant files if your aren't already... amazing photos! Too bad we can't grow half this stuff in So Cal (outside a greenhouse, that is)... Aren't these great mosquito breeders?
Hi everyone – I didn’t get too much done yesterday as I felt a bit crook. I hung up a few more Neo’s, put up some smoke alarms and that was it for the day.
Karen – I pleased to see that you’re feeling a bit better now and I hope you aren’t rushing things too much. Regarding the “Gympies”, yes there were a few to get through weren’t there? I didn’t do them all either but I saw enough to form an opinion about them. There are some really nice ones on there worth registering but I still think there’s a lot that weren’t. While you’re bird watching, see if you can spot any brom’s up in the trees.
Jean - My wife found some of the mouse traps you spoke about in Woollies today. Unfortunately they didn’t have any rat traps. What’s more the biggest shock I got was when I looked at the packaging; they were made in Australia! Will wonders never cease?
Shirley – Yes the weather has got quite cold here as well during the last two days; there’s a cold south west light wind blowing and it’s obviously coming from the snow fields as it almost cuts through you and doesn’t make for a very pleasant day in the garden.
They’re a nice couple of plants you got; I love Marble Snow as it always “stands out in a crowd” especially if it’s surrounded by a lot of darker coloured plants, and the variegated one is nice too.
That pic of the Neo Grey Nurse that I posted belongs to a very good friend of mine who is now over eighty but still maintains an enormous collection. Her and her husband built their two story brick and concrete house on an extremely steep slope overlooking the river and she has brom’s at four different levels. As you drive up to the front of the house all you can see are brom’s, and she has a sort of a conservatory on the ground floor which you have to walk through to get into the house.
On the second floor there is an exit which takes you out into the bush on the steep slope at the rear of the house. This is also planted with hundreds of very large bromeliads with tracks winding in between them. To go out there is like exploring in South America; she has them planted on rocks, up in trees and of course on the ground and it’s a bit like a bromeliad wilderness.
But as the bloke in the add says “but that’s not all folks” there is still the flat concrete roof up above. When you get to this it’s like another yard and is completely covered with brom’s. She has a heated tunnel house in the centre which houses a collection of the more difficult ones as well as many very rare species and the whole rest of the roof is covered in brom’s as well with just narrow pathways in between.
Going to visit them is quite a treat but I don’t go there much anymore as it’s too embarrassing because you only have to say you like something and she’s poking a plant of it under your arm and she will never say no and won’t take any money for them no matter how hard you try. They are an amazing couple who have achieved the impossible on an impossible block of land.
But it doesn’t end there either, because there are very steep steps which lead right down to the water and at this level she has another shade house filled with Nidulariums and not only that but there are brom gardens planted on each side of the steps all the way down to the water again with narrow pathways in between. It certainly is a spectacle.
Palmbob – With a name like that you have to be a bloke and it’s good to see another bloke posting on here as it’s been pretty lonely being on my own among all of these wonderful women although we do have some good conversations and sharing of pic’s as well as plant swapping. I think originally (before I joined) this site was set up for Australians only, not because we are racists but because there are so few Australian sites and so many international ones. Besides a lot of other sites are aimed at the big growers, specialists and botanical experts whereas this is just as the name suggests “for novices and addicts”. We do have the occasional American dropping in from time to time such as Kristi who I know watches the posts but only rarely posts herself, but anyway it’s still good to have another man to keep me company so why not tell us a bit about yourself and your brom’s? Also post a few pictures as well, I'm sure we would be pleased to see them.
Something a little bit different in the pic department today as I contacted a forum brom friend of mine who lives in Singapore. Her name is Lyndi Whye and she kindly gave me permission to post some of the pic’s of her wonderful Singapore brom garden. Although Dave’s Garden will show that the pic’s are copyrighted to me, they’re not really my pic’s, they’re Lyndi’s but I did get permission to post them. Just thought I’d clear that up before I get accused of stealing someone’s pic’s.
My 'broms' are pretty much limited to things like Dyckias, Deuterocohnias and Puyas... other than a few forms of Aechmea recurvata, not much I have in the yard is still kicking (either I rotted it, or it died of dehydration). My collection is pretty much all about abuse, not perfection, and if something can't handle my abuse, it quickly becomes extinct.
Below are a few of what still survives... Aechmea recurvata benrathii, Aechmea nudicaulis, Aechmea recurvata, and Deuterocohnia lorentziana (not sure of spelling of that last one... or any of them for that matter).
Hi everyone. Beautiful pics everyone. Just popped in to let you know that I'll be away for a few days. I'm going to my son's to see the new GG-son. The boys are stoked about the idea and getting a couple of days off school. Hope to have some pics to show you of John's broms when I get back. I don't like the thought of leaving my garden as I know that I'll miss it terribly. I love my garden and it's very calming to walk out into the SH or around the garden and just look. Geoff it's lovely to see you over here. I "know" palmbob from the cactus site. Great to see you're interested in broms as well. Well I must go. I hope everyone is well and you all have a great day and I'll see you when I get back. Colleen
Hi everyone – It’s good to see that Tash (springer99) has come to the rescue and started a new thread for us for May. Tash you really must train a couple of apprentices so they can do this job without us worrying you.
Palmbob – Or should we call you Geoff now that Colleen has “let the cat out of the bag”. I personally have never seen the point of people posting and not being prepared to put their real names to their comments, but then I’m getting old and not up with this modern world.
In any case it’s good to see you getting back with a post and firstly some pic’s of your own collection. It’s interesting to see that the ones you have posted are all grown here in Australia although I’ve not seen the Deut. Lorentziana, but I do know the Deut. Brevifolia is grown here locally. Are you Ae Benrathii in flower now? If so that’s very interesting as they are in flower here as well on the other side of the world so our growing conditions must be very similar.
Your pic’s of the show are certainly good for the eyes as they show some plants we don’t usually see here in Australia although there are still some old favourites. I’m not familiar with the Ae. Loie's Pride which is a very nice looking plant and the Ae. Samurai is a real “eye opener”. This plant is widely grown here in Australia but unfortunately doesn’t do very well here where I live. It’s interesting to note that as well as being a c.v. of Ae Chantinii, it was as an unexpected result of Tissue Culture. Whoever grew the Billbergia Dianne has managed to get some great colour into the foliage and not only that but has very skilfully managed to get it to flower at the same time as the show which is very difficult to do given the short flower life of these plants. That’s also a nice specimen of the Hohenbergia correia-araujoi, a magnificent specimen and again (almost) in flower for the show.
If you’ve been following our posts you probably have gathered that I am a through and through Neoregelia man and they are my “all time favourites”, and it’s interesting to see the sample of Neo pic’s you have posted. They’re all nice plants, but two that really catch my eye are Neo “Mandarin Miss” and Neo ‘Java Plum’ I don’t have either of these (or any of the other for that matter), but I find Neo ‘Java Plum’ interesting, especially when I look closely into the markings and I can see a resemblance of Neo. Smithii there and wouldn’t be surprised if it was used somewhere in the breeding line. You certainly came onboard with a “bang” and I’m sure everyone has enjoyed your collection of pic’s so please keep them coming as it’s always nice to see something new.
Colleen – I’m sure you and the boys will enjoy your trip to Adelaide to see the new member of the family and no doubt you will be “eye-balling” John’s brom’s as well. Don’t worry about leaving your garden as I’m sure all the work will still be there when you return, unless of course those two monkeys that live amongst the plants have done all the work for you. Is the plant in your pic Neo Medusa? It looks like it or a hybrid from it, are the edges of the leaves spineless? I’m looking forward to some pic’s if John’s collection when you return.
I’ll finish here for now and continue on the new thread with a few more pic’s of Lyndi’s Singapore garden.
hi everyone.i just joined and boy am I happy to be able to talk to brom people.Tash i had exactly the same thing as you and lost a lot of lovely vrieseas as well as a lot of burn holes on some neos.it got so hot some of the centres burnt and just turned to mush.Fortunately the neos threw a pup before giving up.I had mover all the vr's into sheltered carport thinking "too much water'. Well that was right for the rainy period but I thought I'd better leave them to dry out,not good !.Only about 4 days ago I had a vr chestnut come away in my hand.It's now down in the fireplace.Very disheartening.I lost vr icecream and several expensive ones.funny thing the ones planted in the garden under tree and palm cover did okay,like vr gulz. Oh well,live and learn.They are mostly recovering now
nev the seedlings of vr saundersii are still going but very slowly.I saw you say back a bit they are slow but can I do anything else to help them along maybe/ I water with 1/4 strength seasol,they are still planted in the coconut coir.All of the neos are little but happy.
I also bought some seedlings from biotek,i think I mentioned to you, I am potting the neo gespacho out this week but the vrs are slower and I lost some .
I now have 3 hotboxes full with a variety of plants.Some W.A grassplants and even bat plant seeds as well as 2 filled with neos and some lovely aechmeas wendy sent me.It is lovely to see things grow from start,I can't wait for some of nevs neos I have to grow.So many different crosses.Rosymorn x fernygrove I think it is I am especially looking forward to seeing develop.
I will post some pics when I find out how but really just wanted to say hello to everyone. DID IT YEH!! AE redbands, AE flamingo,AE Blanchetiana red with pup, Governers plea. cheers jenny