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birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

April 11, 2012
3:48 PM

Post #9078895

I have tried many years to get some Oriental Poppies from seed to grow in my garden. Last year, I broke down and bought some O. Poppies. Then, we had a hydrant put in and the entire garden was destroyed. So, all last summer, I let the garden "go" as I wanted to see what survived from the roots. This late winter, I pulled weeds in the garden and noticed some "rough, frilly" looking leaves and thought it might be Oriental Poppies; as I have never had O. P and did not know for sure what the leaves look like. I gently weeded around them and watched with curiosity and anticipation. Two days ago, I pulled them up as they turned out to be thistles!! And, they already had some pretty long roots. :( Ha! Oh well.

I do "think" I have a few Oriental Poppies that came up from seed I had planted two years ago. I don't know what color they will be.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

April 16, 2012
4:46 AM

Post #9084278

Birder, all is not lost. I can share some of my extra O/P when they go dormant this summer. Just D-Mail me if you are intrested. Mike
caitlinsgarden
McGregor, IA
(Zone 4b)

May 28, 2012
5:21 AM

Post #9141413

I know this from experience - they look similar, but poppies are soft and thistles are prickly! I once let a lot of thistles grow, thinking thsy were poppies!
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

June 4, 2012
4:27 PM

Post #9152314

Oh, Cait, so glad I am not the only one that grew thistles!!!
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 26, 2012
10:44 AM

Post #9367560

Update:
My husband is the one that got me really interested in Oriental Poppies. He saw them in a local yard and was quite impressed. He came home and talked to me about them, so I have tried to grow them since then. That was about 20 years ago.

I try every year to Winter Sow them with Great Success. But, by fall, which is when I plant my biennials/perennials into my garden, they usually died off. I Did get a few to make it this year and did plant them in the garden in the fall. But, most died before transplant time.

This past Spring, my husband became more interested in my Oriental Poppy endeavor. He built a raised bed, with great soil and good drainage. He planted about four different types of O.P.--what ever seed I had and put a marker by each different plant. Oriental Poppies grew like absolute weeds! Unfortunately the information on the markers faded, and we didn't know which poppy was which. So, we are waiting until they bloom this spring to transplant. Surely, we can get some to transplant. Nonetheless, I finally have some Oriental Poppy plants!
bluepoppy
Landisburg, PA
(Zone 6a)

December 26, 2012
2:06 PM

Post #9367734

O.poppies will die off after blooming and then come back in the fall...
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 26, 2012
2:45 PM

Post #9367775

My O. Poppies that germinated in the window box basically stayed green all season--they became ratty-but stayed rather green. None bloomed this year. I am thinking they don't bloom the first year.
Does one have to dead head them to get them to bloom in the fall? Since I have never been able to grow the O.P., I don't know much about their habit. I did not know they re-bloom.
Edited to say they germinated in the "raised bed" not a "window box".

This message was edited Dec 30, 2012 12:15 PM

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

December 27, 2012
4:04 AM

Post #9368181

Birder, I know for sure that they dont rebloom here in Z:5. I have some of the super poppies for about three years now that is reported to rebloom. I am guessing that it may happen in a warmer climate.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

December 30, 2012
8:36 AM

Post #9370485

Mine don't rebloom either but they do start sending fresh shoots in the fall -- not that it does them much good. Just too late here.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 30, 2012
10:21 AM

Post #9370555

Here's a picture of my new Oriental Poppies that were planted in the raised bed. Not much care was given to these seeds/seedlings/plants: ocassional water.

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HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

December 30, 2012
11:51 AM

Post #9370633

Birder that's going to be loaded with blooms come spring
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 30, 2012
2:50 PM

Post #9370769

Yes, I hope so. I also Hope I will be able to move these flowers into other gardens. I think that's suppose t/b in the fall while they are dormant. I should have some to share, don't you think???

I will have to take a picture!

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

December 30, 2012
5:58 PM

Post #9370880

I think! They usually start going dormant around here in August.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 31, 2012
2:13 AM

Post #9371054

Birder,thats a lot of poppies.What a nice bed.
Orientals do go dormant .By mid summer they look dead.Thats the time to move them.After they establish to new beds you will see growth.Thats the "winter crown" it stays green all winter.
In spring another growth phase will bring on the bloom stalks.
Give each plant plenty of room when transplanting.
Dont be surprised if the original bed sprouts some newbies.
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 31, 2012
2:21 PM

Post #9371598

"Winter crown stays green" Hmmm, didn't know that.
How far apart to re-plant? 36 inches? Or closer?
Thanks all.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 31, 2012
2:53 PM

Post #9371620

If you want a big poppy area I would plant 3 in a triangle 20 inches apart.
These are too close together but they just cant be moved at least by me.
ooops
try this one

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birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

December 31, 2012
4:47 PM

Post #9371743

Thanks for the info. I will keep that in mind next August. Thanks for the pics.

Is that a Lilium speciosum var. rubrum on the left in the first picture?? It sure is growing straight so close to your house. Mine really reach for the sun and are at an angle from the house.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

December 31, 2012
7:12 PM

Post #9371869

Yeah. And what are the darker leaves in front of the poppies? Part of the poppy plants?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 1, 2013
1:34 AM

Post #9371996

#1, I think those are a campanula thats spreading like wildfire"rapunculoides".I will never plant this again.
Here is a different view of that area taken last year
#2 is that row of lilies Longeflorums I believe. pix was taken in '10


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Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 1, 2013
6:33 AM

Post #9372102

Happy New Year everyone, and best of luck with your gardens for 2013.

Jo Ann, your garden pictures are gorgeous. What a treat to view them today, when it's cold and rainy here.

Birder, I'm glad you've finally got a beautiful bed of poppies growing. I did direct sow some poppies last weekend, and I've got my fingers crossed that I'll see some poppy babies soon. Annette

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 1, 2013
8:53 AM

Post #9372251

Some of my annuals are already up. Will take a pic when I go out today. Very cold 13f right now. My lilies are leaning towards the sun also. Look at the tall ones in the background.

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

January 2, 2013
9:12 AM

Post #9373146

Mike, what are the tall purple lilies?

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 3, 2013
5:39 AM

Post #9373886

Oberon, I have the name here somewhere. I got them (I believe) from Brecks a few yrs ago. When I come across that info I will pass it on.
Procrastinator
Havelock
Canada

January 3, 2013
6:02 AM

Post #9373901

Colour me stupid but I didn't think that poppies could be transplanted easily. They don't like to be disturbed. I did have success when I wintersowed some. I thought that they might be tougher from the wintersowing??

Is there anyone here that can enlighten me? It would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Elaine and Otis

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 3, 2013
6:05 AM

Post #9373906

I transplant Oriental Poppies when they are dormant in late summer.I never had a problem unless its regrowth from pieces of roots left behind.

Annual poppies are not easy to transplant.I oversow and have to thin out the teeny weenies in spring.
Procrastinator
Havelock
Canada

January 3, 2013
7:19 AM

Post #9373992

Thanks for the explanation. I love poppies and just can't get enough of them. I am going to WS many more of them this month.

Elaine and Otis

This is Otis

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

January 3, 2013
7:19 AM

Post #9373993

I have transplanted orientals in the spring. Yes, it isn't the best time but I didn't know that. Talk about dumb. Anyone, many of them 'took.' I suspect our cool temps and moist air may have helped. I am right now trying to irradicate one of them with more or less success. Those roots go deep and sturdy. I wanted to plant (and DID plant SplishSplash, a geranium bush there as I got tired of how ratty orientals look when they are done blooming. Might make an interesting combo if I let the orientals grow around the geranium. I have also sown annuals in flats and moved to 6-paks, and thence to the garden with good success.

PS. Otis is adorable.

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Procrastinator
Havelock
Canada

January 3, 2013
12:21 PM

Post #9374312

Otis says, "Thanks."

Elaine and Otis
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

January 3, 2013
8:34 PM

Post #9374766

Mike, my lilies pull away from the house further than that! The stems last year were about an inch and a half around at the bottom. They are big--about 4 to 5 feet tall--but they lean out so don't look as tall.

ge: thanks for the pics, you too Mike. Otis is a cutey!

I "have" successfully transplanted annual poppies in early spring: big, deep clumps of soil along with the poppies. I have the hole ready to put the poppies in before I dig them up. I get so many annuals, I don't worry if they don't make it. They have to be thinned A Lot anyway.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 4, 2013
4:17 AM

Post #9374895

Procrastinator, Otis is a cutie, or should I say handsome one. LOL! I have also moved orientals in the spring. I bought many from Gracefulgardens that I also planted in the spring. Some of which did bloom the first year. I must add that Amanda at GG is such a sweet lady to do business with. Also a great source for delphiniums and many other annuals and perennials at unbelievable prices. All my poppy annuals that germinated back in November was not visible when I snap a pic yesterday. Looking forward to spring! Mike
Procrastinator
Havelock
Canada

January 4, 2013
4:19 PM

Post #9375637

I would think the secret to moving them in the spring is getting a good clump with as much original soil as possible.

Since I live in Ontario, Canada, I am not familiar with GG. I do love my delphiniums though. I am dedicating more of my gardens to Delphs this spring. I have several seeds that need to be WSed. I think they are one of my very favourite flowers. I love the fact that you can get two blooms off them if you cut the spent flowers down after the first flowering.

Thanks for all the lovely compliments about Otis. He is my miracle dog. I am not sure if any of you are familiar with eweed but two of his beautiful goldens are his Mama and Papa. Between e-weeds generosity and Mrs. Colla's sponsorship, he managed to get flown to Toronto and we picked him up 5 years ago this month. Beautiful story and I will always be grateful.

Anyway - Happy Gardening

Hugs Elaine and Otis

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 6, 2013
4:18 PM

Post #9377551

Came across these seeds. Only bought three daylilies from them about two Decembers ago. One bloomed correct the other two that was suppose to be the same both turned out to be unknown. Showing some unusual seeds here. http://www.hirts.com/Poppy-Seeds/b/2384215011?field_availability=-1&field_browse=2384215011&field_product_site_launch_date_utc=-1y&ie=UTF8&refinementHistory=brandtextbin%2Csubjectbin%2Ccolor_map%2Cprice%2Csize_name&searchNodeID=2384215011&searchPage=1&searchRank=salesrank&searchSize=12

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

January 6, 2013
4:34 PM

Post #9377562

Interesting link, thank you, I fit the thread title..lol Maybe i will be luckier this season, I had Giant Red and Royal Wedding growing , right now they are under a foot of snow... we will see later...Lost some Miss Piggy under flood waters a few years ago , My Banana Palm also.. oh well...

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 7, 2013
2:24 AM

Post #9377792

I have Royal Wedding and its vigorous. Planted small MissPiggy last spring ,out of 6 plants only 2 survived.

This message was edited Jan 10, 2013 8:17 AM
birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

January 9, 2013
8:03 PM

Post #9380617

I have ordered from Graceful Gardens. Their packaging was superb.

I have lots of annual poppies about an inch tall right now. Larkspur is even taller.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 10, 2013
5:21 AM

Post #9380759

I love my Orientals.This is Royal Wedding I have a June 3 date on the photo

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birder17
Jackson, MO
(Zone 6b)

January 10, 2013
9:17 AM

Post #9380957

Those poppies look downright 'angelic' especially the last two pictures. Cute bears! It's always nice to see pictures of flowers in January!
Edited to correct typo.

This message was edited Jan 10, 2013 11:18 AM
Procrastinator
Havelock
Canada

January 10, 2013
12:30 PM

Post #9381120

Oh my So pretty!

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

January 10, 2013
12:34 PM

Post #9381124

Indeed always nice to see !! well I will be hoping...

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 12, 2013
3:50 AM

Post #9382529

JoAnn lovely pics.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 13, 2013
3:13 AM

Post #9383364

We are having a January thaw and I checked my annual poppies,still there in the 2 leaf stage. I am dreaming of some blacks and lavenders.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

January 13, 2013
10:15 AM

Post #9383664

I was looking at mine 60 's two days , I have a couple of small ones , still there ,still hope..
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 13, 2013
2:46 PM

Post #9383900

We had a really warm weekend here, in the 70's both days, so I was happy to get some time to work in the garden doing some clean up.

I'm thrilled to say that the poppy seeds that I direct sowed in December have sprouted. These were seeds that I got from OSPS in 2011, and kept them in the freezer to keep them fresh. We're getting cool rainy weather over the next few days, so I hope they'll be fine. I'll post pics later.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 13, 2013
6:44 PM

Post #9384060

Here are pictures of the poppy seedlings in the garden, that was taken today. I'm glad we have cooler weather coming over the next 10 days, with days in the 40-50's, and nights in the 20-30's.

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juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

January 13, 2013
6:59 PM

Post #9384076

I love pictures , thank you !!!
Cheers me up!!!
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 13, 2013
7:10 PM

Post #9384085

You're welcome juhur7.

I forgot to add, the uprooted bulb in the midde picture has been replanted. Darn chipmunks, LOL. Annette

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 14, 2013
1:18 AM

Post #9384182

Yup Thats them. Did you sow them or are these volunteers?
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 14, 2013
3:55 AM

Post #9384227

Hi Jo Ann, these were direct sown on December 22, based on what you recommended. I scraped the areas clean of pine straw mulch, and any bark or leaves that were in the area, and then just sprinkled the seeds on the dirt.

The seeds placed in the different areas are:

Antique Lavender
Antique Rose
Pepper Box mix
White Cloud

On January 2, I also direct sowed some Black Cloud seeds in front of my yellow cabbage rose, but those have not germinated yet. It's rainy here today, and cold over the next 10 days, so hopefully these will germinate as well. Annette

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 14, 2013
4:06 AM

Post #9384235

Good Job
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 14, 2013
6:04 AM

Post #9384336

Thanks, hopefully I'll get some blooms this year.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 15, 2013
3:44 AM

Post #9385549

Annette, is that a hyacinth in the first pic?
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 15, 2013
7:23 PM

Post #9386630

Hi Mike, yep that's Hyacinth L'Innocence. Good pick up ;~) They got planted in 2011, and I have a purple Hyacinth that's in the same bed that keeps coming up every year, that's been in for 5 years.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 16, 2013
1:24 AM

Post #9386744

We inherited purple Hy's.They spread like mad. Wonderful scent when blooming.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 16, 2013
4:31 AM

Post #9386818

Found this eye candy. Look at the height!! http://www.thompson-morgan.com/flowers/flower-seeds/perennial-and-biennial-seeds/romneya-coulteri/2119TM

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 16, 2013
4:41 AM

Post #9386821

woah
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 19, 2013
11:47 AM

Post #9390238

Mike that is one good looking poppy, is there a source for those seeds in the US?

I'm happy to report that the Black Cloud seeds that I direct sowed on January 2nd have germinated. This is exciting stuff. We had 3 straight days of rain this past week, and then a wintry mix on Thursday. We're warming up this weekend again, then back to chilly weather next week. Annette

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juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

January 19, 2013
12:05 PM

Post #9390262

these maybe ; ,http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/3264/

I know I wasn't the one asked but,while I was looking also/
OKAY did not copy ,,, for seeds J L Hudson and Smart seeds

This message was edited Jan 19, 2013 4:07 PM
I am going to have to try again mine seem to have failed, poppies must hate me!!!! lol

This message was edited Jan 19, 2013 6:15 PM
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

January 19, 2013
5:39 PM

Post #9390600

That tree poppy is hardy in zones 7-10; can live down to 10F. Guess it won't work here. Also called the California Tree Poppy

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2013
2:06 AM

Post #9390905

Pirl had a poppy that was just huge.She sent me seeds but mine didnt get as tall as hers.She is a zone south.

Juhur7: Dont consider your poppies a failure until Juns and they are no where to be found. I lost seeds from birds and washouts.There is still time to reseed but protect with some sort od mesh with stones to hold it down ,or milk bottles with bottoms cut out and staked into the ground so they dont blow away.

This message was edited Jan 20, 2013 6:08 AM

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 21, 2013
6:20 AM

Post #9392129

Juhur7, no harm done. No one have all the answers. I believe that any question asked, weather direct or indirect it can be answered by anyone that have the answer or something close to it. LOL

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

January 21, 2013
11:13 AM

Post #9392475

You would think they would grow here. too much clay, too many things that eat them..I will eventually build up a special place and grow them .
I am impatient often, when it comes to the work and effort it entails . me being me ..
My white seedling is still alive though ,thread stray from another(you know though)lol
pprice
Ranburne, AL
(Zone 7b)

April 2, 2013
10:37 AM

Post #9469769

I can pay postage for any poppy Sav .Please dmail or pprice256@gmail.com
LilyToes
Ouray, CO
(Zone 4a)

April 15, 2013
9:27 AM

Post #9484854

Hello Guys,
I'm trying to germinate some Alpine poppy seeds.
From pictures they seem so beautiful. I can't seem
to get them to germinate. Should I perhaps put them in
the freezer for a few weeks like one would do with alpine strawberry seeds?
Any particular trick to germinating poppy seeds in general? This is my first go at it..
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

April 15, 2013
10:12 AM

Post #9484898

They generally need a good freeze to germinate. I sow mine in the fall so they get a good one over winter. Or now I have some in flats on the back porch where we are still below freezing. Some need ups and downs (cold, warm, cold, warm) like a typical spring to germinate.
LilyToes
Ouray, CO
(Zone 4a)

April 17, 2013
8:19 AM

Post #9487166

Well I will try the ol' in the freezer trick for a few weeks and see if that helps.

Tank you Oberon.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

April 17, 2013
9:32 AM

Post #9487249

My pleasure

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