A friend and I, both clematis lovers, were writing recently about some people who want success without effort. They either ignore the needs of the clematises or prefer to do things their way and most often they're met with unhappy clematises that could be stunning if they gave the soil and planting conditions more of a priority.
When I was new to clematises, 20 years ago, a neighbor told me not to waste my time because "they don't grow here". Her failures came via Michigan Bulb Company so we were not surprised at her comment. She was a doctor so I appreciated her knowledge of the medical field but when it came to gardening she was woefully lacking.
Success comes with effort and learning. The first clematises I planted have all survived and I credit the compost. If you don't have your own compost piles you can buy it or buy composted manure, which is as close as you can probably get. Don't skimp! Be generous and improve your chances of bountiful blossoms.
I think success always starts with the soil. I am 72 but still manage to haul in compost by the truck load. I stir in compost with every thing I plant. I also believe in planting into a large hole which is filled with well amended soil.
This is a clem that almost disappeared before I started mulching with compost and putting a stone near its roots
Success does begin with the soil. Speak to any rose grower and see how they play nursemaid, lovingly, to every request the rose has and they reap the benefits. Plant the same roses in "dirt" with no amendments and the roses will not be as healthy nor will they give the blooms that the right treatment would.
I'm almost 71, John, and some days feel a lot longer than they did even a few years ago but I'd rather tend the plants I have than go out buying dozens more and neglecting what I have.
Your clematis is lovely and I'm so glad it's thriving now. Some can be brought back from almost nothing while others aren't so fortunate.
I just dug up Franziska Maria and have little hope it will respond to all my attention but I'm babying it as though it were my one and only. We'll see what a few months can do for it. The area where it was became overrun with digitalis and it was totally hidden. I've never had a bloom from it.
I have 'midnight showers' and Dr. Ruppel that was purchased thru a co-op and they both have died down; I've check on the roots and they look OK. I'm babying them just like you. Wow, 20 years, growing clematis! I'm just starting...
I had a doctor's appointment today, and my travels took me out near a produce market I like to frequent. They had their May plant tent sale out in the parking lot. I went to look, but not expecting anything (other than perhaps an herb I might like) because it's mostly impatients, geraniums and begonias and the like, and I'm not much for annuals except for a couple pots which I'm not ready for yet. I was ALMOST out of there when I turned the very farthest corner and saw them. Dozens and dozens of clematis. All sorts. Thankfully I couldn't see a price anywhere, so I only selected one, but had I known the price, I probably would have bought two. Anyway, I got a vitricella venosa violacea, which I think will look nice with my Omoshiro. But I definitely will need a larger trellis for the two of them now.
The two plants I ordered from Silver Star arrived today (John Huxtable and Ville de Lyon). All three are now repotted according to pirl's directions!
The two from Silver Star arrived already hard pruned, but the V3 had top growth on a small trellis. When I got it all unwound, it was probably 3 or 4 feet long! I selected this plant because it has a new growth just starting, so I decided to leave the long one (it has several buds already) and pinch back the new growth then it gets started.
DH caught me just finishing up with them and didn't say a word, although I felt a bit guilty about getting more plants! The feeling didn't last long...
Inthegarden - when did you receive the co-op plants? This year? How big were they when you got them? I've bought many from co-ops and most are dead - one is alive. I hope yours survive.
Katherine - leave the guilt behind you. If they make you smile then you deserve them. I love the way you found them! Just out of curiosity, how many clematises did you have as of 1/1/2012? How many do you have now?
Over about 18 months I added 25 or 26 here and I never regret buying any of them.
Koshki, Hi and welcome to group! I do not think you are showing any signs of being at all crazy! A sure sign of mental stability is that you ordered all wonderful plants! I absolutely guarantee your mental health will be greatly enhanced because, all the clems. you establish this season will be in pretty good or even fine bloom next year, so you see the worries you have lifted off your shoulders! Now sally forth and prepare sites where you think clems would look great, prepare theses sites and plant them with more clems! There now don't you feel better already? I used to be crazy before I found Clematis...and you should see me now! Lee
Inthegarden, I too am concerned with purchasing from co-ops. It hasn't worked well for me either,but, a few is not so bad to handle! I have grown a few co op and discount house plants to a size where they could do well in the garden. Maybe you can find out how to best do this were you live, I don't think I can offer good advice because we have very cold winters here in upstate New York causing dormancy. So my growing on issues are a lot different then warm winter gardens. Best of luck and have fun with your plants! Lee
Thanks everyone...I have received quite a warm welcome from the clematis group, more so than any other forum here. I'm thinking I need to post in the "long threads" to introduce myself in those other groups.
I did post in the "intro" forum, but I don't think many people actually look at it. So here's my short intro: a 2005 illness took me out of boating and put me in a wheelchair. Then, missing being outdoors all summer, I gradually got into gardening, starting with single tomato plant. When we bought a wheelchair accessible home in 2009, I got into orchids, my first plant addiction. I also started gardening in earnest, as we were able to create raised beds and berms, and had a place for lots of containers.
I first discovered that we owned a clematis (I suspect it's a Gypsy Queen) in 2010 after we unchoked it from my neighbor's invading ivy, and I fell in love. I planted a Ruutel that fall in a small area near it. I the spring we planted Firefly, Allanah, and Kasugai, and late in the season I bought a Sappire Indigo on sale.
Since 1/1/2012 I have purchased: Omoshiro; jackmanii 'Superba'; Bijou; John Huxtable; Ville de Lyon; and vitrecella venosa violacea. Right at the top of my list is Princess Diana, but I have to find a very special place for it. I'm thinking of putting one to grow amongst my English roses (my little joke), but I have to make sure the colors will work together first.
Now, I recognize this illness because I've seen before it with orchids. In 2005 I had 2, and now I have over 250. But they are, for the most part, small and I can grow them indoors under lights. Clems are much bigger and they need specific places in the garden to thrive. And supports.
So that is my story, and I'm sticking to it. I have a lot of stress in my life that is somewhat intractable, so gardening and orchiding helps me find some breathing room.
You are funny, Lee! Upstate NY and Texas are two different gardening worlds.
Katherine - so sorry to hear of your illness but it's amazing how one tomato plant can transform a person into a gardener. My husband also started his gardening life with tomato seeds under lights in the basement. Watching plants grow makes us all feel so accomplished while it's Mother Nature doing the actual work. We're just there to help by giving the plants the best environment possible - just like you give your orchids.
It's our pleasure to have you with us, Katherine, and hope you'll remain a clematis enthusiast.
Koshki...I was so taken by your story...I am sorry you have to be wheelchair bound. I find that gardening and watching a beautiful flower come to life is so satisfying. Plus the fact that you can keep your mind busy reading, and researching all the new plants.
I am 65, and I used to do alot of horse showing (quarter horses). Now, I still have the 5 horses and they retired right along with me. I still ride occasionally, but it is just around our pastures.
I am a big outdoor person, and keep active in my garden which I just started actually a year ago. I love daylilies, just really got into clematis and roses. As for the roses, I have only 3 and ordered 3 more that have to be diesease resistant, or the go dead on me...
About 3/4 years ago, I planted my first clem...jackmanii. I just dug a small hole, and plopped it in, not knowing anything else...Of course, it didn't come up the next year! So, about 2 years ago, I planted Nelly Moser...but this time, I dug a bigger hole and amended it with compost and black dirt...she took off...and guess what? So did the Jackmanii... Now this year, after being on Daves Garden...I read and ask all sorts of questions, I added my horse's manure compost and scratched it in, and both are doing really well...Last year I planted Princess Diana, and being much smarter (thanks to this site), she was amazing her first year...now this year, she got some manure compost...and wow! She took off.
Pirl is amazing in her knowledge, and enjoy reading her experiences and now yours...Keep us posted on how your clems do...
That's a Japanese clematis, Haizawa. I've been told it will never come to America but I can dream, can't I?
Carolyn - the bells do have such charm. I love all clematises and feel like Annie from Oklahoma - "I'm Just a Gal Who Cain't Say No, I'm in a terrible fix...".
sm - you have gold on your hands with the horses! I've also planted clematises in shallow holes and had them grow anyhow but I credit the compost for their survival. While walking around the gardens yesterday I did see growth this year on Ilka.. Last year there was nothing so I was sure I had lost it but never removed the stone marker. I've learned if I remove the stone the clem will always come back and I may not remember the name of it. Mrs. Yuki is either dead or playing games. How annoying!
I enjoyed your phrase, "I'm a big outdoor person". When I'm stuck inside due to the weather I feel as though I'm imprisoned and find myself looking out windows just to reassure myself that eventually I will be outside again.
Though I do have Princess Diana, I also have Duchess of Albany. Both have pink nodding flowers but DoA grows better and is a much more generous bloomer than Princess Diana. They're only about 25' apart and get the same sunshine so it must be either the plant or something I haven't figured out yet.
2. Princess Diana
3. Duchess of Albany
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Calif_Sue Northern California United States (Zone 9a)
Epsom Salt - one TBSP to a gallon of tepid water. If you're having a lazy day just sprinkle the ES, water it in and cover it with mulch.
Wish I did know the name of that wonderful clematis but I don't. I have Crystal Fountain (pictured here) but don't think that's a match. Your third photo makes me feel it is larger than the typical group 2. Did it look that way to you?
It looks like you have been bitten by the bug. I never dreamed that I would have 40 plus clems, but here I am thanks to Pirl and the rest of the group.
It looks to me like you haven't let your accident beat you.
Thanks, all. I really do think that if I hadn't discovered orchids and gardening I would be a raging B*** (rhymes with witch). I have had some recovery that has made a significant improvement in my quality of life over where I was initially, but barring some major medical breakthrough, this is probably it for me. Thankfully we have been able to arrange things to accommodate me to a fairly significant degree.
Now what I need is to see how you folks are working those clems into your landscape to get more ideas. Don't get me wrong, I love the close-ups of the flowers, but I'd really love to see photos of your gardens in general and how you get so many clems in them!
Calif_Sue Northern California United States (Zone 9a)
This picture is of a Berm which is about 80 feet long and up to 15 feet wide. It has an alternation of a clematis then a shrub clematis shrub etc.
The idea is to split this part of my garden into 2 parts so that as people walk along the path they will turn the corner and get a new view.
The make up of plants along the crest are Cletera, Yugomichusi(sp) , Mock Orange , A viticelli , Rose Citrus Splash ( which is too small for the plan and will have to be replaced), Clem Jackmani, Clem Guernsy Cream, a David Austin Shrub rose, Clem Niobe, Viburnum carlesi,Clem Nelly ? ( a senior moment)
What lovely pictures! John, are your clematis growing in the shrubs, or do some have separate supports as well? I used to have a nice full Nelly Moser years ago. All the beautiful photos here made me nostalgic, and I finally ordered one for myself. It came yesterday... Now I'll have to find the right spot for her!
I counted this evening, and I came up with 30 Clems I have. But I need more variety. I have found that most are of the same one or look near like it. I do have the ones that bloom in the mid to late summer that are bell shaped. My Advante Garde is coming up nice in the pot. I sure have hopes for her.
Hi Everyone, I mentioned that I bought a 'Pillu' Yesterday evening I was walking around the garden and realized that Piilu has a pleasant,musky,kinda sweet and prominent smell. I think it is the strongest clematis
scent I know of. I will sure spend more time sniffing clems.! What Clematis do you find with a scent? Lee
Guernsey Cream has done very well for me , Claire de Lune, Jackmani, and of course HF young
LeeI have found no scented Clematis except of course Sweet Autumn which is extraordinarily invasive here. It has taken over a vacated trailer park in 3 years or so. I walk dogs for the humane society which is next to the trailer park and notice that the sacs or all over place. I am going to take a look at Piilu .
Clematis armandii has an amazing scent, it's addictive. When it's blooming, I sniff it everyday, LOL. I even drag my DH and DS to smell it, they think I'm crazy, but they also agree that it smells wonderful. Annette
sm - Hopefully this will be my first blooming year with Guernsey Cream. I love the cream color.
The most devout gardeners I've heard about do not allow any perennial to bloom for two full years to increase the strength of the roots. I am not part of that group. I wouldn't have the heart to cut back a new lush clematis but you can cut back what I refer to a wimpy plant, which may not bloom anyhow.
It's hard to compare clematises to see what's done best for each of us. A lot depends on the planting, the sunshine and the original health of the plant. Root competition can be deadly. Some appear wonderful at first but don't seem to make good progress regardless of how we dote on them.
Omoshiro is my favorite though not the greatest producer of blooms, most likely due to the location, but many are excellent producers and go on and on with blossoms for weeks. Jackmanii produces thousands of flowers each year. This is Ernest Markham and it usually blooms a very long time and crosses over atop the nearby azaleas. Last year I added Patricia Ann Fretwell to the left of Ernest as a color echo and hope to see them bloom together eventually. Photo credits for the collage: Victorgardener for Patricia Ann Fretwell and Brushwood for Ernest Markham.
Lee - I've never noticed a scent to Piilu but will try to take notice this year. Thanks for the tip.
Koshki, this is how my Gipsy Queen looks like from 20 feet. I have planted some Veronicas, Blue daze and some hot pink zinnias around it. Next to it my white Ladybanks rose, which is blooming in early spring. Etelka
Kiseta, I think it is wonderful that you have the white Lady Banks rose! Please send a picture if she blooms this year. Being up north,I can't grow the banks roses but the few yellow ones I have seen while visiting in California I fell in love with!
John, I gathered from this group that S.A.C. was invasive as all get out! I only have the one and prune it to 2 foot as soon as the great majority of flowers is passed. So far they are not seen out of gardens around here. Lee
Greenesideup, I found it in Lowe's one year and I have been looking for a second one, but they are all yellow. They are done blooming, they are early like April. You can probobly grow them in a pot and bring them in in the Winter. I have seen that with camelias in Philadelphia, Ladybanks get very large if you don't trimm them. Here is my early picture. What is that white vine on your fence in the back of the picture??? Etelka
Kiseta- Thanks for the hint on the Banks Roses but, I don't have a place to keep them over winter. My wife and I are in South Carolina for 2 or 3 months and I know I won't find anyone who could care for the over winter.Some kind lady in Savannah, told me they bloom best on two year old wood? What have you found out about keeping them blooming well?
The white vine on my fence is Sweet Autumn Clematis. Here are more pictures of the plant. Have a wonderful late spring! Lee
Ok...I got lost for a bit...weeding and such. Got some answers to question...
HopeSue...the white fuzzy plant is perennial gypsophilla paniculata, Baby's Breath. Blooms for me in z5, June-Julyish. I love it as bouquet filler (48"), later when it's done I use Limonium latifolium...perennial statice (36-48").
Marie-kap...sorry I didnn'tget back to you with these suggestions til now...ooops. Got some ideas for inbetweens on your roses and or daylillies. Some are perenns and some annuals that canbe direct seeded (annuals), mine are going in this week, so it's not too late. Campanula glomerata, persicifolia, and or C.p. Labelle (check this one out, very pretty. Gypsophilla Covent Gardens (A), annual poppies rhoeas Angles Choir Mix,book say 24-30" but I remember more like 18+". Nicotiana sandersae Heaven Scent, Very eve. fragrant, (I have seed). Lathus Knee High (sweet peas). Salvia horminum Claryssa mix. Cosmos b. Cosimo Collarette 24". Monarda h. Beramo 28". Nigella.
Now if you would like to see pix and read some info go to tmseeds.com (Thompsen and Morgan Seeds), great company and have ordered from them for years. Many you could get locally also at your nursery. Annuals do a great job of filling in until perenns get bigger making thegarden look full sooner, and seeds are cheap. Also think walmart has the gypsophila Covent Garden. Home Depot has the sweetpeas in a large pk for $3 ish.
I don't know John, I do nothing special. Some I pot up like I have this new '3D Pink' (below) in a pot but most of mine go into the ground. I have clay amended with some compost but many I see around town are in poor soil, so maybe they don't like anything too rich.
I often take cuttings too and they root pretty easy for me. I bright pieces of this one from my other garden when I moved, it's a favorite.
Marie...it is Senetti "Light Blue Bicolor". Sorry, I didn't mean to post it twice. first pix is a Senetti and an annual Osteospurmum, And 5 is from my garden a few days ago, dwarf iris and JJs.
I actually grow two of the osteos. b.c. Lavender Mist and Purple Mountain (pix below). Z5-6, gosh thought they went to z8. Will be collecting seeds this year. from the annuals also.
Clems here are greening up nicely, found 3 the d*** had pruned for me, (darn things anyhow). Atleast they have time to grow before blooming, just got two new branches where the chomps are. Personally I'd rather do my own pruning!!
Found that I had lost Princess Dianna over the winter (will leave it alone as cross my fingers). All the other new ones planted last fall made it.
Speaking of vines, anyone else have Hydrangea anomala petiolaris (climbing hydrangea)? Please any info would be appreciated, just got 2 from Home Depot, have seen them from afar and loved, vowing to grow them for myself. Help is welcomed.
Sue thanks for the heads up on taking cuttings, how long and probably not from a flowering stem? More info please, lol. thanks.
Great Omoshiro, Marilyn, and a lovely (maybe) Miss Bateman. Those green stripes are like icing on Annette's birthday cake!
It would be so helpful if descriptions of clem's included a sure fire way to identify them.
Today I planted Elsa Spaeth (light lavender/blue) on the big white trellis in the rose garden. I hope she loves to climb because Niobe will never hit 8' here and my year old Walmart Blue Moon/Claire de Lune (I think) is blooming but she's only about a foot tall, if that.
Happy birthday to you Annette, wishing you a great day in the garden. Kathy, my Climbing hydrangea has been blooming off and on this early spring. I like the vine for its foliages for the flowers aren't very showy. But I like 'em. Can't find a pic. now. A more colorful of a similar blooming hydrangea is this one. They're not at their peak yet, but this is a start.
Calif_sue - your purple clem looks like "The President". I have it - it is one of two I have and it is just now getting ready to open. TONS of blooms on it (and I dont do anything with it - but fortunately have GREAT soil). The other I have is "Lime Twist" - thought I lost it but I have 3 vines coming up that are now about a foot and a half tall. Very excited.
These pics are from last year - Lime Twist & President.
Lily_love wrote:Happy birthday to you Annette, wishing you a great day in the garden. Kathy, my Climbing hydrangea has been blooming off and on this early spring. I like the vine for its foliages for the flowers aren't very showy. But I like 'em. Can't find a pic. now. A more colorful of a similar blooming hydrangea is this one. They're not at their peak yet, but this is a start.
Please forgive me Arlene, the photos are those of shrub hydrangeas, and not the climbing variety. The vine hydrangea produces identical bloom, but they're white and has no color to it.
I got the Dr. Ruppel and Midnight showers in Feb. and they had one stem and a small root system. I guess similiar to the ones from Wal-Mart. I had purchased several clems that were with small root systems and, yes, they did die.
But the Jackmanii (from W-M) is now in its 4th year, I believe, and is very happy in a large pot after I almost killed it with too much sun and not enough water. Hopefully the drought from past summers will not continue this summer. Princess Di is loaded with blooms for the first time! She is a favorite of mine. These two are my success stories.
Dropping in late to say thanks Arlene, Kim, John and everyone else for the birthday wishes. Long day today, getting the DH ready for his knee replacement tomorrow. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.
You have a beautiful garden marie_kap, and nice blooms minnesippi. I'm drooling over the Omoshiro blooms Arlene and ROBIN. I can never get enough of them ;-)
Kim, the hydrangea is lovely, I have one that's blooming now, I'll have to take some pictures and post them this week. Annette
Annette - hope your husband opted to have the "nerve block". It makes a huge difference with recovery! One friend didn't have it when she had both knees replaced five years ago and still uses a scooter. Another friend did select the nerve block and was walking on her own, no assistance from any crutches/canes/etc., in three days.
Good luck to him with the surgery.
Inthegarden - many of us have both successes and failures with the WM clematises. Jackmanii is an old reliable. All clem's should have the genes for survival that Jackmanii has. Princess Diana is so lovely. She scrambles up our Japanese maple, Scolopendrifolium.
One more Omoshiro to wish Annette's husband the best of health:
Annette- Best wishes for your husbands knee surgeries. My wife Roberta had both knees done together 3 years ago. She is so glad she had the procedures! Good luck and I hope you do not become to stressed worrying. Will he be be getting rehab in the hospital?
All- I had my first bloom this year on Mrs. Bateman, small and quite a bit of green however, I sure love her. I also have a forced plant of Pillu in good bloom and lots of buds remaining, but that is the way I purchased her. Lee
My Daniel Deronda finnaly bloomed for the first time. It just have one bloom but I just bought it a month ago. Now only Hanrii have not bloomed yet. Last night and today all day it rained , it was a nice slow rain we needed it. Also my lillies have finnaly bloomed, the pink one called Lollypop. Etelka
Thanks Pirl for the proper name for the Daniel D. I had a feeling I misspelled it. It has been a long day at the church cooking. The flower on the end is my Hot lips Salvia, it does look like Guara, but it is taller. I had to trimm it some because my Hanrii is being blocked from it. I have just planted some Calendula seeds, it sproute it, hoping to have some blooms soon. It is called Neon. It said that it has some medicinal use, My sister said that to. Etelka
I think it is Salvia I have in the front bed. It starts out as a little clump about 8 inches across. But man once it starts to grow it become 4 ft across and 3 ft high. I had to thin it out some this year and plant it elsewhere.
The worse thing about SAC, is that they choke everything in their paths, I had a nice spot for my hybrid clems in the front yard for several years. This last year the SAC shaded them out. The trouble is I can't yank them out for they woven within other clems. I've tried pretty hard to rid them off, but haven't had success.
I had a sweet autumn clematis at my old house and it was a rampant climber. It actually reached out into a cherry tree and made a bower of white. It was amazing...I kept thinking I need a bride and groom to get married under it...ha ha. I only wish I had taken a picture of it.
Is there another fast growing clematis that isn't so rampant?
I have that here, It was here when I moved in and yes it is so pretty and smells so good. But I soon found out how it can kill a tree and yes choke everything it climbs on. I am constantly pulling it up all over the place , even as far away as a 100 yards. Needless to say I am trying to kill it.
My DH came through surgery fine yesterday. He was up and walking with the walker this morning.
Arlene, he did get the nerve block, and the orthopedist did put in the knee meds to help with
pain and clotting. He feels much better this time around than the first. His knee is also much more flexible. He now wished he hadn't suffered for 3 years before getting this surgery done.
Lee, he's starting PT in the hospital, they started today, which will continue once he gets home. Thanks everyone for the well wishes for my DH.
I also wanted to say beautiful blooms and gardens everyone. Annette
SO glad he had the nerve block. Another DG person was about to have her surgery (she is an RN) and was unsure as to whether to get the nerve block or not. She did and was back to gardening in two weeks!
Good news, Annette...I don't know of too many clems that get large fast...I have what I believe to be Killian Donahue...that covered this trellis in 2 years...and Blue Light grew up this 5' fence also in 2 years...
Two or three years ago I ordered a "Countess de Bouchard" from a catalog (or website) - the description made it sound so beautiful.. It bloomed the first year and I thought, "This isn't right - it was supposed to be covered with blooms and I thought they would be spectacular." I thought the color was not exciting and there weren't a lot of blooms.
Last year I added a blue variety at the base, to see if I could come up with some 'excitement' - The blue bloomed (I can't recall the name - I bought it at a local nursery and it was expen$ive) in April, and today, the "Countess" made an appearance. Much nicer than I expected, but still not what I wanted. I had hoped the two varieties would grow intertwined and bloom together. Oh well. Gardening is an experiment...
Lee - a friend just had his Comtesse de Bouchard and he, too, was disappointed in the color. Climate and growing conditions (sun/shade) can make a difference as well as taking the photo in various lighting. We're always eager to believe the photos on a site and yet checking PlantFiles to see photos by others is always worth it.
You can try for next year to get them to grow together. Encourage the union by placing a stakes leaning towards each other and check the new growth every week. Add more stakes, if necessary, to keep the clematises entwined.
Hi Everyone- I think I am a danger to myself and others! This was more embarrassing than any thing else.It Was the end of the afternoon but, I had a few tasks to finish. I was trying to carry a bunch of tools and supplies to a border so I wouldn't have to make extra trips or load and unload a cart. Among the supplies was an old and mostly empty bottle of fish oil fertilizer
I had under my arm. I squeezed by a shrub and the brittle old plastic bottle broke all to He**!! and ran all over my shirt and pants. I finished my task and headed to the laundry room only to be greeted by my wife telling me how awful I smelled!! I explained as I shed clothes, my wife couldn't figure out if she was mad or to laugh! She chose the latter and reminded me of a few other "interesting" things I had done over the years! She is a wonderful gal! Lee
My second Daniel Deronda is much darker then the first. I have planted some Angelonias and orange zinnias in front also some purple globe flowers. The second fllush of the Ruutel the flowers are darker and smaller. I guess she gave it all at the first time. My Hydrengeas are ok, they are smaller too and the shade is bitween purple and pink. Etelka
OK, I'm getting ready to plant, and I have two questions:
How do acid-loving shrubs like Azaleas and Rhodies deal with all that manure? Or is it better not to use them as 'vehicles?'
How does Violacea Venosa look from a distance? I'm thinking of putting her in this box, on the far right in this photo.. South is straight ahead toward the house and barn, east to the left.
The gardens look great, Pam...you've been busy! Carolyn, JoAnne is a wonderful artist...her watercolors are just awesome...she has that great sense of color & design in her gardens...I've been able to visit them the last 3 Augusts...
Pirl, that's what I was hoping you'd say about VV.
I have a Purpurea Plena Elegans which I think is a good match for that poor skeletal azalea down below. It had been completely swamped by a huge climbing hydrangea that we hacked back last fall. It bloomed at the tips last year, that's how I knew it was there and decided to rescue it. We cut the Azalea back too, keeping only the strongest branches. The hope is that it starts to leaf out lower down. If not, good-bye. The clem will still be a good color for that area either way. It can clamber to its heart content in the hydrangea, which is already filling in some. I'm concerned that the hydrangea will gobble up all those nutrients the Clem is going to get, and eat the Clem too. So I've decided to plant it in a huge plastic pot and bury it and see how that goes.
Hi, whew crazy busy. Weeding spring cleanup still underway. Cruddy weather yet, even saw a few flakes yesterday as I was off the the Botanic Garden sale. Ya, it was a bit burry, we didn't stay long cuz it was windy tooo. Also made to the Iris farm to dig some new ones, usually they are in full bloom this time of year at the lower elevations but alas most were already gone so got a few that still had blooms, will have to get planted in a few days, more rain today and tomorrow. I not complaing but I wanted to do more outside plant shopping yesterday, oh well...next year. lol.
Saw all the info above on the climbing Hydrangeas, thanks all, truely do appreciate it. What kind of trelllis or can I pin to the house someway? If I have to wait a few years for bloom atleast the leaves are lovely.
DRAT, those stupid ____, they ate the tops of several more clems. dogonit anyhow. Even pulled out one of the stems from a new clem. Anyone hungry for venison??????
Happy Mother's Day tomorrow!!!!!!!!
Home made is best, Happy Mothersday to all the ladies, but sometime your flowers are your babies and that is special too.We help them grow, we brag abot them and feel bad when the slugs eat them. Enjoy your day. Etelka
I do remember mothers day at church yers ago. All would go to the alter and get either a red carnation if their mother was living or a white one if their mother had died.
Here"s to all you ladies who do so much for your children. Fixing Sunday dinner, ironing clothes , picking up after and Kissing the boo boos of life.
Has anyone else noticred that there are a lot more bumble bees this year than in the previous years? I am in Oregon so it might just be in this area. Sure glad to see them make a comeback. Go bumblers.
My white clematis that has bloomed by my garage for the last three years got broken off overnight. I suspect my two garden watchdogs (the cats Ruby and Jake) were chasing a rodent through the bed and bumped it. I've decided I'll move the clem (I'm sure the roots are healthy) to a place in the border and give it a trellis in a location the cats don't frequent. I'll put a climbing rose in the spot by the garage and, hopefully, it will be sturdy enough to withstand the foot traffic.
I think it does Arlene, It is finally putting out some good growth. I sure want tone of those red ones. I have one starting to bloom out front, that I will have to take a pic of. I dont know who it is, but it is going to be a nice one.
Crystal Fountain (excuse the black plastic to the right. Hopefully solarizing the soil will kill the dreaded Houttuynia cordata 'Chameleon' but we won't remove the plastic for another 16 months to be sure it's dead.)
The President - a really bad photo so I'll try again tomorrow if the rain doesn't arrive.
Last but not least...drum roll please...finally, after all these years of disappointments, wrong names and dead plants, here is Venosa Violacea. I only planted it in a pot in March (a Walmart purchase) and kept it indoors to try and get a bloom. Once in a while we are rewarded for our efforts! Going from a green plastic bag in March to a bloom two months later was unexpected and delightful.
Everyones blooms are just gorgeous. Arlene, you've got a blooming bonanza going on, I'm glad your VV is doing well from Walmart. Next spring, I'm going to have to pick up some clematis from there, I regret not getting Henryi when I had the chance.
Good news here is that we've a lot of rain over the last few days, and the weather has been cooler, which all the plants are loving. Durandii, Otto Froebel, and John Warren are all growing well and have blooms forming.
I have done some bad thing this early morning, found the Bluestone website and ordered some clematis. They have some clems on sale, half price, I hope the co. is not on the bad list. Ordered Venosa Violacea, (yes Pirl, I got the same feever as you did) and with it the Ice Blue. From Brushwood I have ordered John Warren (my dad's and my Brother's name) and Madam Julie Correvan (my nieces name) Pretty soon I will have the whole family, missing a flower named after Eva. I think I should go back to bed, before this card start smoking. Etelka
Thanks, Annette. I raised the VV indoors in a Walmart self-watering pot and now I'm convinced I'll never raise young clem's in anything but that type of pot. They're all less than $5.00. Still quite a few to open but some don't get blooming until summer.
Etelka - I wish you luck with the clem's from Bluestone. They were my biggest disappointments aside from the disaster clematis co-op (NOT Koi's). I think there's a phlox named Eva Cullum that might have to do until there's a clem named Eva.
Pirl, your clems are stunning...I love VV, & may have to track one down! Marie, the red clem is Ruutel, I believe...my tags got totally messed up, Marie Louise Jensen was the tag, but that clem is purple, I believe...
Based upon all of your lovely examples, I concur with those who suggested my NoID is HF Young.
The first pic was taken in April and the second, taken on Monday show the 'real' color - the third photo, from this morning, looks off color - due to the sunlight behind and the reflected light from my red shirt and the surrounding flowers, To my eye, it's a dead-on match (7 petals, etc.).
Marilyn - I did a collage and now they don't look like they are the same clematis.
Your center is much fluffier than mine.
My center stripe goes right to the edge.
Your sepals overlap as they emerge from the center where mine has a space.
Your sepal edges are pointed, mine are rounded.
You have seven sepals, I have six.
Hi everybody, we had three days of good slow rain and the garden looks good. Early next week I will get my new Clems and I was wandering if I wanted to plant one in a pot, how big should the pot be. Will make some trellis that will fit into the pot, but I was hoping to get big enough to not to have to repot after a few years. Thanks, Etelka
Then it would have to be a very big pot, Etelka. If you select a medium color pot and keep it in part shade it will probably do fine. Look in Walmart for their plastic self-watering pots and buy the largest one, less than $5.00, and be sure to mulch it very well - at least 3" if not more. The pot relies on you to give it water but I'd add water crystals, reconstituted, just to be safe.
I just received my Bluestone order, 3 Venosa Violacea and one Ice blue. They look nice and healthy, not to big and no buds, but I think I got nice plants for under 7 dollars each. I am planing to give one to my friend that has a nice fence to run it on and just started to grow clematis. I have to go get some more bone meal and look for some large flower pots to plant some in it. Still two more clems are coming next week from Brushwood.
kiseta, what's joy! Happy gardening! I love all your clems. everyone. This one is for wwk. relating climbing hydrangea. See the humongous vine climbing up the base of my dogwood? That's my climbing hydrangea which is roughly 7-8 years of age. The potted plant in the front is Billbergia nutans if someone maybe wondering.
I have just picked up a flower pot, 20" wide, I did not like the self watering ones, to bright colors, this will be nicer with black trellis. When I put the clem in the pot, do I put it in the middle or in one side that way I can plant some annuals around it to keep it cool. Some stores had nice ceramic pots but no holes in them. This one is kind of plastic and I can drill few holes in the bottom.
The first one is the my Ville de Lyon. ,,finally it is blooming after 3 years. I had forgot where I had planted it. The second is hard to see, but the bloom is a dark purple. The first bloom was eaten by slugs. I am not sure of the name. I think it is the one I bought that never grew for 2 years, so I moved it.
Minne I have had abundant success 1 time in growing Clems from seed. I put the seeds in a pot after clening them and dthen put them out in a cold frame and forgot them. Some time a year later I looked in the frame and there were hundreds of clem plants. Since then I have had no success trying a variety of techniques.
I have been doing some weeding this morning. The temperature at the moment has reached 80 . Yesterday WE had a 90 degree afternoon.
I moved the clematis to a place in the border where I'll place a teepee type trellis (ordered on line, to match this one) when it arrives. I hope moving the clem root now didn't kill it and that it sends up a few shoots soon.