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paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 12:53 AM Post #9113480
| leaves are over a foot long |
growin
Vancouver, BC (Zone 8b)
 May 7, 2012 12:54 AM Post #9113481
| pic? |
paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 12:58 AM Post #9113484
| working on it. they're not posting for some reason - or only after 3-4 tries
I bet you'll know it in a flash |
growin
Vancouver, BC (Zone 8b)
May 7, 2012 1:00 AM Post #9113486
| open up Windows Explorer and leave it open. Try again. |
paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 1:05 AM Post #9113489
| it's bouncing me out to the forums list when I post pics.
just tried resizing one in case that was it. same thing.
these leaves are wavy edged /shaped - I bet there's a term for that. too huge to be oak (I think). Possibly Sassafrass (sp?)
This message was edited May 7, 2012 2:06 AM |
paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 1:07 AM Post #9113490
| finally, it might be posting... 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 1:09 AM Post #9113491
| on a roll, here's another: 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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growin
Vancouver, BC (Zone 8b)
May 7, 2012 1:19 AM Post #9113496
| Well, it's an Oak but I can't say I'm that great at Oak ID. |
paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 1:23 AM Post #9113500
| I thought because the leaves were so enormous that they were just "oak-like".
let's see what others say then.
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steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX (Zone 9a)
May 7, 2012 1:27 AM Post #9113501
| rounded lobes are white oak family and pointy lobes are black oak family. Leaves on young saplings of many trees are larger than the leaves of the mature tree. I think this is a white oak sapling. |
growin
Vancouver, BC (Zone 8b)
May 7, 2012 1:32 AM Post #9113503
| Look at the (Black Oak) Quercus velutina http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/58159/
or (White Oak) Quercus alba to start. |
paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 1:13 PM Post #9114265
| thanks steadycam. That narrows it down a bit!
Q. alba leaf looked right, but darker green than this plant.
here are 3 others that looked like a similar leaf.
There is color to the new growth.
(though one of these is listed as 7a, we have zone 7 plants popping up here now)
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/141330/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/63294/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/84125/ |
ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
May 7, 2012 8:56 PM Post #9115031
| Not Cherrybark Oak (in Red Oak group, and will have bristle tips on the ends of the lobes). I really doubt that you'll have a hybrid between Live Oak and Bur Oak spontaneously occurring in your yard in St. Louis. And not Q. glaucoides.
You look like you have a seedling Quercus bicolor there. It is certainly a member of the White Oak group (no bristles on the tips of the lobes). The modest sinuses to the lobes and the "fat" end to the leaf means Swamp White Oak to me.
Look around your yard (or neighborhood), and see if there aren't some large donor trees. The main trunk will develop lightly peeling vertical fissured bark. On branches a couple years old, you will find lightly peeling bark reminiscent of River Birch - but not so salmony and colorful.
Know that oaks of like groups are promiscuous. If you have two different members of the White Oak group nearby, then the seedlings from their acorns may have features from each parent. |
paani
Saint Louis, MO (Zone 6a)
May 7, 2012 10:06 PM Post #9115097
| Thansk VV (if I may). It sounds like a fine tree.
I notice in the PF comments that you said it transplants well too.
I have no place for such a big tree.
But maybe I could slip it in as a street tree (ready to replace the Bradford pears when a storm finally brings them down).
Mostly we get redbuds, mimosas, white mulberry, Manitoba maple and Juniper.
But potentially, a lot of things can show up in our yard.
Though we're too far from the Botanical Gardens,
Shaw's other great legacy is very close and has a few trees of its own:
"Today’s Park forest includes over 7,500 trees, of over 325 varieties"
http://www.towergrovepark.org/treesflowers/trees.htm
BTW, due to your good influence there's a Mariesii and a Shasta viburnum growing with the redbuds.
They didn't volunteer though.
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ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
May 8, 2012 9:26 AM Post #9115733
| All good stuff - 'specially the viburnums.
Swamp White Oak makes a perfectly fine street tree. Definitely far better than the pears.
JealousJealousJealous of your proximity to Shaw's many legacies in St. Louis. I don't get there enough to visit them. |
