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Sago Babies.........

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

For the first time my girl Sago, and guy Sago are going into.......don't know what it's called.........heat?....at the same time!

So I understand if I shake the guy over the girl it will pollinate all the seeds.

Does anyone know how many seeds one lady has?

Trying to figure how much trouble this may be.......

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Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

Here's the boy.

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Central Texas, TX(Zone 8b)

Congrats! It's my understanding that it would help if you actually do some of the pollinating yourself. Bugs can be unpredictable. If I remember correctly it can be as many as 10-20 seeds from a plant. But don't take my word for it. Wait and see what someone else says.

noonamah, Australia

I've always left it to the pollinators and have found there's around 15 to 20 seeds that develop. It may vary a bit between species.

Acton, CA(Zone 8b)

yeah, only you live where there are natural cycad pollinators... we have no cycad pollinators in the USA except south Florida (Zamia pollinators).

noonamah, Australia

Yes Geoff, but what you lack in 6 legged pollinators you probably more than make up in 2 legged pollinators :O)

If you remember from way back, that Cycas xipholepis I IDed. It's turned out to be a female and has been pollinated by what can only be C. armstrongii 2 years running now. Last years lot I have sprouted (well, radicals so far, no leaves yet) and this years lot are still ripening. But the down side of having the pollinators is that if I bring in any male Cycas species here then they'll contaminate the larger natural C. armstrongii population. So any I grow from seed will have to have the males culled out as soon as they become apparent. I like seeing the cones on them, but alas the outcome would be very irresponsible.

Acton, CA(Zone 8b)

irresponsible perhaps if you plant them in the wild, but as cultivated plants, hybrid cycads can make awesome a and excellent ornamental specimens. Many cycad growers here love hybridizing these things, but there is little chance of any affecting a native population in this country.

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

OK, so not 100 seeds or more even if I shake the guy over the girl?

noonamah, Australia

Morganc, I'd be surprised if you got over 20 or so. They're not huge seeders like some other plants. The seeds are large, around 20mm diameter, and take a while to ripen. When they germinate they put down a thick root but take about a year to produce a leaf.

Geoff, most of our Cycas species are fairly restricted in their range. C. armstrongii occurs in a radius of about 30 to 40 kms around me. I have lots growing naturally on my place, as does the whole neighbourhood. We're basically out bush/in the wild. Smallest property size is around 9 to10 hectares, lots much larger, with many of them just natural bushland. That's why I feel a responsibility to not contaminate and hope others feel the same. It would take a while, but I wouldn't want to leave that legacy. My Zamias, Bowenias, Lepidozamias aren't a problem, they're a long way from 'home'.

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

Just potting up all the pups is time consuming.......so maybe a nursery will want all the seeds?

Acton, CA(Zone 8b)

my friend pollinates his Sagos by just dumping the pollen on the female when she is ready... he usually gets several hundred good seed per crop. Puts all seed on heated trays of moist cactus soil and gets about 90% success. Not too many nurseries here in So Cal would be interested in sago seed as they are so incredibly cheap and available nowadays.

noonamah, Australia

You can try putting them up on the seed trade forum:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/trading/all/

You might find something else you want that someone is willing to trade.

Las Vegas, NV(Zone 9b)

What's happening in the nursery?

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

Since we have had so much wind this spring, and the Sagos are so close, I let Mother Nature take it's course. The female has closed.......don't know what comes next.

noonamah, Australia

It doesn't take long for the seeds to start to show up. It does take a long time for them to ripen. I usually leave them until they're ready to fall, ie just touch them lightly and they come away from the plant. If they do fall they don't go far (unless they're on a real slope).

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

Well here is what they look like this morning..........

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noonamah, Australia

That's looking good. The male cone is quite impressive.

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

This is Texas........ :-))

Pensacola, FL(Zone 8b)

Interesting thread - got me thinking. I inherited a HUGE female Sago when we moved to FL but it is the only Sago on the property except for the many pups I cut off from around the base which are rooting nicely. Those would be clones correct? In other words, they are all female?

Even though I am sure the answer is obvious, I am new to Cycads so going to ask.

Thanks

Acton, CA(Zone 8b)

Yes

Heath, TX

My Sago finally just put up a male cone this spring. This is my first Sago to declare a gender :-) I do have a question. Do I just leave the cone on the plant until it comes loose or falls off? And how often will this plant put up a cone? Obviously these pics loaded out of order.......

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Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

You can leave in on.......or, what we did the next time it grew.....once it opened we cut it off.

I would like to know about the females though if anyone knows. Can you cut them off too?

Los Angeles, CA

cutting it off would send energy to the leaves, I'd do it with young plants to generate a bigger plant and growth the next year, I see this response is 2 years late....

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

LOL.....well, better late than.........

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