I'm pretty sure first one is Chamonix, Second is named but I've lost it's tag. I can almost remember but can't quite pull it out.Third one is Bradley Hardy. Last is bed w/ Domonic,Sparkling Orange and unseen on corner of bed El Desperado.Last picture is a duet rather than a clump,Chinese Scholar I think...this ones actually tagged but I'll have to look at it at daybreak to confirm.
Beautiful!! I know what you mean about adding to the want list for sure!!
Peggy, where did you find the Arkansas Post? I would love to have that one just because of the name! I am also trying to get Ouachita Beauty, and Camden Gold Dollar... I have at least found a vendor for those if they still have any available. I am waiting for an email to verify.
Love all the pics! Kiss my Grits is gorgeous! Might need that one just because of the attitude! :)
They are all so beautiful...is there a daylilies anonymous or something for those of us who want them all ????
I have a question for ya'll... I am in the middle of doing some foundation planting in front of our home and I have a background of azaleas and gardenias in one area... another section has some small magnolias, camellias, and weeping youpon. Would ya'll advise planting some daylilies in front of these foundation shrubs? I have a space of about 3' the entire length of my house (100+ ft) that needs "something" in it. Of course, some of it needs to be evergreens or something that will have some interest in winter ... but I am thinking daylilies would sure brighten it up in the summer!! :)
Genna, I would suggest a mixture of plants to have some color all season long. In my front border I am using some long blooming daylilies. they might not be the latest and greatest but, they will be blooming for a long time.
On and On
Red Hot Returns
Stella's Ruffled Fingers
Black Eyed Susan
Black Eyed Stella
When My Sweetheart Returns
Just Plum Happy
Big Time Happy
Thanks so much for taking the time to share that list. I am fairly new to daylilies and don't have a clue which last longer... do you have suggestions as to specific plants that are sun loving that might go well in that bed? I am not good at landscape planning at all !! I know from looking at your pictures that you dont have that problem!!
Gallardia comes in many color combination and bloom from spring to frost. Mesa Yellow is a fairly new long blooming one. Cone flowers. Heucheras are great for foliage. Hibiscus. Poppies, annuals and perennials. Clematis. Delphiniums. Lily trees. It's all about likes and dislikes. There's so much out there. Here is a couple place to start. I am hope others will chime in with their suggestions. gracefulgardens.com and bluestoneperennials.com. This is in addition to your local nursery. Mike
LOL...well, my local nursery doesn't have much in the way of perennials! Almost all annuals... a few azaleas, roses, etc some hydrangeas - that is about it :( Never heard of a lily tree - will need to look that up. I have a hardy hibiscus, but it gets way to large to go in the area that I have left... but the cone flowers might work (i have a hard time getting them to live more than one or two seasons!), clematis could work in the background for sure... not sure delphiniums will survive our heat and humidity. I do like the heucheras although i have never tried any... if they will take the sun, I need to try a few of those as well. thanks so much for the info!
Thanks - beautiful photos! You are not going to believe this but my sister gave me a "mother's day" gift today that was a box of bulbs. It included a Lily Tree!! I was so shocked! I told her I had just heard of a lily tree this morning...pretty good timing! No idea what color or anything I will need to look up the variety... it was in a box of bulbs she bought me from Breck's and I haven't had time to look them all up yet... There was also a witch's something... will need to look up what the name was that I had never heard of. Don't know how well they will do here but I will try them. What variety is that last Lily Tree?? It is really beautiful!
Thanks so much for sharing your photos. Love that varigated foliage on the first plant!
We have about 1300. It's really too many to take care of, but I have a hard time getting rid of any ot them.
I had no idea that there was one named Ginger Jar, so thanks for telling me. I've now looked it up, and see that it's by Moldovan and it has the typical eye in many of his cultivars.
I don't remember how I came up with that name for my sign in for Dave's. Just made it up at the time.
How funny... well, I guess you can add that to your want list too! WOW, 1300 ...I can't imagine but it must be beautiful at your house this time of year!!! I think I have about 25...maybe 30 and that includes the new ones that I just put in!
I have it on my want list ... and had intended to add it when I purchased these last ones but she had already sold out of the primal scream before I knew she was going out of business. :( Oh well, maybe I can add it in the fall...definitely don't need anything else to try to get in the ground and keep alive with this heat. It is 106 today - and they are calling for higher temps the rest of the week... yuck~
I know... I have DLs that need to be planted this evening and I am trying HARD to motivate myself...but when I step outside that motivation disappears in a hurry! It will probably be 7 or later before I consider trying to get any in the ground.
Bad! All insects are pretty bad this summer because of the mild winter. But, the mosquitos are not as bad now as they were a couple of months ago - I guess it is just so dry there isn't anywhere for them to hatch out. Although I figured after that rain they would be out again in force. There are some every evening of course, but still no where near what it was back in April and May. Thank goodness!!
It has been unseasonably warm here on and off all spring and now into summer. We had several weeks of temps in the 80s during March - not a good sign! We even hit 90+ a few days in March and April... but then it would cool back off. In fact, when my DLs were blooming in May we had some of our coolest temps!! They bloomed early this year here because of the hot spring.
It was 79 degrees here this morning when I left for work! Not a good sign... :( We have some friends from here that are at a Lake House on Lake Michigan for vacation this week. I think they have the right idea heading North! :)
Well, I guess misery loves company...looks like the whole US is in the same HOT boat together!! Isn't it really unusual for it to get that hot that far north??? Or does it just drop off a lot a night? Yesterday it was even hot when I left for work about 7:15, but it was REALLY nice here this morning about 6 am. It is SUPER hot out there now though!
All of those blooms are beautiful! Hope everyone manages to stay cool!!
tomorrow is supposed to be 104 here. I got a few things planted and taken care of earlier in the week. I definitely won't be outside working tomorrow or Friday! Heading to Michigan to visit my oldest for the weekend and will take in a lighthouse or two along Lake Michigan (South Haven area). Sure hope I can move by then...low back spasms are keeping me down today!
ALSO, I noticed a few talking about mosquitos. Drink a shot glass of Tonic Water every morning and the mosquitos will not bite you. My daughter has been doing this all week, and has been able to sit outside with no bites! That is in Connecticut where the skeeters are big enough to haul you away!
Hey Mike, whatever your Noid is, it is really nice. Look at the loops & bubbles on the petals...I saw this one somewhere. Let me see if I can find it and I'll let you know. It was one I was wanting I think.
Minnesippi, AJ probably wont bloom again this season. It just finished here. It is not listed as a rebloomer but, anything can happen. I only had two scapes from five fans.
Thanks for the nice comments Cindy, Linda and I2le. I go out with my camera in my back pocket just incase something pops up. LOL!
l2le, I got it last year as a gift plant from the hybridizer himself, Mike Grossmann, aka, mike144mann on the LA. There were no mention of it polying. Going over to his site to double check. It didn't bloomed in my garden last year. The four scapes averages 20 buds each.
irisluvr - I really like that Cherry Cheeks. What a pretty color!
Mike, Elma Tipton and Big Snowbird are gorgeous! I also like that Sears Tower. The Foreslake Ragamuffin and Mini Pearl are really nice too. I can't wait for my Victorian Lace to bloom. That is beautiful.
I wonder if my clump I discovered earlier is the same as your Frans Halls. Sure looks like it.
Mike, I am posting my "unknown" clump that looks kinda like yours. Also, your Joan Senior looks totally different than mine do. I bought mine at a local Wholesale place called Plant World. I like yours better!
Joan Sr - twin
Zella Virginia - clump
Walters Tango - Trip again
There could be several reasons why your Joan Senior looks different.
#1 It could be tissue cultured (cloned). A lot of tissue cultured daylilies do not look or perform like the original. Always buy your daylilies from reputable daylily growers. The big box stores (I don't know if I can mention their names) always carry tissued cultured daylilies and they do not perform like the originals.
#2 Soil and weather conditions can change the appearance of a daylily.
Mike...it was a good try anyway. I have no idea what that clump is. I must have bought it though! LOL
Your Joan Senior is recurved and mine is not. When I bought it, it has a tag on it from the nursery who potted it I guess. So, it sounds to me like Hemlady and Caitlin could be correct. At the time, I didn't know anything about daylilys AT ALL!
Anyway, no more NEW daylily clumps today. Twins of MY JR, a triple of Pardon Me and another quad of Zella Virginia all bloomed today, but they are the same ol' ones.
I was wondering if that was the difference on my Joan Senior too. My weather here is very hot, I'm at 5,500 ft altitude, wind, you name it and also have lousy soil. Not near as acidic as what Mike must have in IL.
I have 3 more Walters Tango, 4 of Pardon Me, 6 of Zella Virginia and twins of Ellen Christine today.
It is not registered as a bicolor. I think is was just aqn effect of the photo. I wish they were still blooming like that. Those were taken June 4th. While I do hstill have some blooming, I am well into rebloom and my lates right now. I need to find my camera battery, right now it is among the missing and I can't take photos. :-(
Thanks Mike. I had looked at that before, so pretty sure that is the same mess I had. I gently pulled them all out and will watch closely to see if any more come up.
I don't know if it was on/in the Ed Murray I planted, or if it was in the compost I mixed in the soil, or maybe even birds could have brought it. I have never seen that particular weed before, so was totally at a loss.
Mike, moved alabama jub to its permanent home. It has new shoots! Maybe it will bloom after all? Bonus if it does. I moved several around that didnt seem to like where i had them. Hopefully they will do better. I lost a new one i had gotten last year. Totally disappeared. Evidently it rotted.
Caitlinsgarden, Big Snowbird started around June twenty fifth based on the first pic I posted in the "Spring-Summer thread. It is still going. Counted one scape a few weeks back with approx forty buds and scars. I will do a final count near the end. It is reblooming and putting out prolifs also.
Everyone's pics are gorgeous! Thanks for sharing, all. I have to say that I think my fave is VIOLET BECOMES YOU. That and others have been added to my very long wish list.
It probably won't surprise everyone here that I have about 1000 cultivars on my wish list, and about 1000 cultivars that I already have, not counting all the NOIDs and unregistered seedlings from my late mother. Too many to take care of, really. Been getting rid of ones I'm no longer thrilled with and replacing with ones I like better.
Here are a bunch of clump shots from this past summer at my place.
Unregistered cranberry colored seedling of my late mother's.
Another one of hers, probably out of PRAIRIE BLUE EYES.
Two shots of my late mother's seedling, which she named CRANVIEW FAERIE'S TUTU. I think BARBARA MITCHEL is one of the parents.
Twins of CONNECT THE DOTS.
Twins of DOUBLE TRIPLE TREAT.
Twins of FRUIT LOOPS.
I absolutely love all your daylily's they are beautiful. I just hate looking at them becuase well you can't see me but i am green with envy. LOL But I can't keep from coming back for one more peak. When i really get to missing my gardens , especially my day lily's I come here for a quick fix. I don't know how you can keep track. I think I already commented on that but i totally admire how you know all of them. I never kept track. Nutsfordaylily I don't think I could actually get rid of any of mine, divided and shared yes but then I have never ever had as many as all of you have. I recently started gardening again and can only hope I will have as maybe not as many but as beautiful as yours and the others. Thank you for sharing your beauties all of you!!
Thanks for all your compliments, everyone. I have more to add tonight. I'm just getting started...LOL!
Linda, I thought that was funny that you thought I had daylilies in bloom right now. That would be pretty amazing!
Mike, FRUIT LOOPS is a favorite of mine. It was a NOID for a long time till someone identified if for me. It's really been a nice one.
Yes, Martina, it amazes me, as well, that I can remember so many daylily names and where they are in my beds. What makes it more amazing is that I have ADD and have a hard time remembering what day of the week it is, among other things, although they do say that people with ADD have no problem focusing on something they are really interested in. Must be true.
I have about 1000 named cultivars and probably 1000 more of NOIDs and unregistered seedlings. Well, maybe 500 more. Have no clue, actually. Oh, and my wish list consists of about 1000 more. Here are more of my beauties.
Another seedling of my late mother's from PARDON ME.
NEVER SAY NEVER twins.
WILSON SPIDER twins.
LILAC SNOW triplets.
Well that does it i just wanna cry, i will never ever be able to buy that many Daylily's. I just started over and just today planted my first 9 daylilies i received from spgardens. These are the ones I received.
1 Moses Fire 1 Hush Little Baby 1 Baja 1 Little Sweet Sue 1 Cimarron Knight 1 Allegiance
1 Duke of Durham 1 Quin Buck Can't hardly wait to see their first blooms. I don't even know what they look like. I am sure they will be beautiful as are all Daylily's.
I am exhausted now, I potted all nine.I also potted 6 Cannas, a red yarrow, 4 pots full of pansies, and my favorite I also weeded a small flower bed i made and planted it with starters a couple friends shared with me. So proud of myself I also made my own potting soil. Yes exhausted but happy because for the last couple of years I couldn't even lift my arms and could barely walk . I know that doesn't sound like much but I have to start slow. Okay I will stop rambling now but I am so just so excited!!! I meant to say my favorite Penstemon Rhando I just love it
CONGRATULATIONS! GOOD JOB!
Nine daylilies! That is nothing to be sad about. I started out with one little fan of a daylily that a neighbor lady gave to me. I had no idea how to take care of a daylily. I did not have a garden at the time and was dealing with health issues that did not allow me to be gardening anyway. But I wanted to please her so I planted it beside the cloths line pole; about the only place in the yard that had some sunshine on it.
It grew but of course did not bloom right away. Our son mowed that thing down at least once, maybe two or three times. He thought it was a weed. That daylily was determined that I was going to be its Mama and it grew back and bloomed. I was hooked. I now have 50 or more named cultivars and I know them all by name. I've taken their pictures over the years. You would think they were my kids or something, LOL!
Just remember, my 50 started out with a no name give-a-way. And by the way, that no name is still with me. We planted it at the entrance of our driveway for all to see.
THANKS TO YOU ALL for sharing your daylilies with us. It is so much fun for me to see the new ones. I have not been able to buy any for quite a few years due to health issues.
Perhaps this next year will be a better one. I pray so.
beautiful blooms Karen! I love all the yellows! I am curious do you add any additional fertilizer? I know you said you used cow manure for mulch so I assume you don' t add anything else??
How do ya'll handle starting a new bed from scratch? I am curious if you put plastic on an area to kill the grass? use herbicide? try to cut the grass off the surface (like removing sod) or just till the area or what? I have a small bed behind my house that I can see readily from my kitchen/dining area. It is overgrown with bermuda and only has two plants left in it. It was never a defined bed really - just a spot where I had some plants. I want to put an actual bed there - and put some of my daylilies in it so I can get more viewing time with them. Just curious about the different methods ya'll use to start a new bed. Thanks!!
Thanks for the compliments on my pics guys. I really don't use any other fertilizer, and most of the beds don't even get the cow manure, as I just don't have the time.
That's a wonderful job you're doing there, Martina. It's a tragedy that you had start over, but at least now you're getting to do what you love. That's what really counts. How many daylilies you have is really not important.
Karen, you are so right ! Good health comes before anything else. Lovely Pics as always Karen.
Genna in regards to your question about starting a bed. The quickest is cutting the sod/top layer with a sod cutter.
Thanks, Mike. Very nice job you did on that bed there.
Genna, if you don't have a sod cutter, then you have to use a shovel. That's what I do, and then I dig down into the soil and loosen it up with my hands, removing any roots that I find. If I'm doing a proper job of it I'll add compost, but sometimes I just don't have the time. Not a good thing in most cases, however I have really good soil here that needs little improvement. Maybe that's why my plants thrive so well without extra fertilizer.
Karen I love your lilys (of which I have some...) Can't wait! AND. you are very fortunate to have good soil. Laura in CT has good soil too and doesn't have to add much to it.
Mike, your lawn makes me so envious, and the way you have done your bed is just beautiful. Here I have to move gravel first, then cut the landscaping fabric, then get the shovel, then the pick axe for the caliche and then add all kinds of organics to make the sand a little hospitable!
I remember when I dug up half my lawn to plant annuals & perrenials. It was lots easier than in the gravel.
Anyway, I love all these beautiful blooms and flowers and now can't wait until spring.
Thanks, Linda! Yes, I know how fortunate I am. When I lived in Reno, NV the soil there was very hard to dig when dry, and it was like mud when wet. In Fallon, NV it was pure sand. Working this soil here is like heaven. Just wish the weeds didn't like it so much.
Yes, Mike, you have a great lawn. Mine isn't half as nice. I put all my efforts into my gardens. I would love to have less lawn, and if I could afford it, I would put gravel paths in the back between my beds rather than grass, although the grass really does look nice.
Very nice pics, Karen.
Linda, it probably would be easier for you to do raised beds instead of digging down thru all that g/forsaken stuff. My opinion of course ! Progression of the front north side bed.
MIke, wow- now those beds are awesome! I am curious on the front bed, (well and I guess all of them) did you just line the edge with blocks or did you use a metal or plastic edging? They sure look nice - just maintaining it seems to be a big issue with the bermuda grass creeping EVERYWHERE!! OF course, it looks like you have a real lawn and not just a yard with multiple grasses like i have!
We cleared our yard out of a pine thicket - so we have whatever growing! I was so estatic to get the bermuda grass growing as it was actually chocking out some of the bahia and didn't have to be mowed constantly! actually makes a nice carpet type grass to walk on etc... but NOW I HATE it!! It is so hard to keep out of everything!
Once I get finished with the foundation planting, I hope to slowly add some zoysia sod and eventually have a lawn - but I understand it is pretty agressive at getting in beds as well. :(
Thanks for sharing your photos!
Karen, your clump shots are so beautiful! There are several that I am really drawn to ... I just have to add Wild Horses to my beds soon! It has been on my list a long time! Plus I need to get that Cranview Pocahontas from you! My daughter is almost 19 and is still crazy about pocahontas!! :) She grew up watching the disney movie over and over and over... ^_^ Love that Iris too !! beautiful color!!
Thanks for sharing!
Genna, there is weeds mixed in with the grass also, it is just hard to see in the pic. LOL! I did use the plastic edger inside the bricks in the front garden to control run off pushing at the bricks since they are on top of the soil.
Linda, you could use a lot of black dirt in the raised bed to hold in moisture instead of the usual stuff we use for raised beds. Then add in some M/Gro moisture control potting soil compost and pile on the mulch.
There is really no maintenance other than watering on the new beds. It is so easy to spot a weed poking up thru the mulch, which I try to address right away.
Other side of fountain known as "front garden south", this past July last pic.
Mike, do you not have trouble with the grass itself trying to spread thru the blocks and into the bed. I do MUCH better at controlling actual weeds (although I KNOW a weed is JUST any plant that is out of place - according to my college professor!!) than I do controlling the grass in my beds!
I am not crazy about the look of the metal edging, but am trying it on my foundation planting because the rock border is just TOO hard to maintain - the grass just grows around and over and under the rocks!!
Mike, you did a great job on those beds. They look awesome!
Genna, I think your beds would really benefit from having the plastic edging around them to keep that Bermuda grass out. I don't have that problem, though I do get my grass trying to creep into my beds, as well as clover and creeping Charlie (ground ivy, a creeping ground cover type weed), and in some spots I also have another invasive creeper, whose name isn't coming to mind at this time. A few beds have rocks lining them, and I can usually keep the grass out of them. I hand pull it when it starts getting too close, and leave enough room between the edge of the grass and the edge of the rocks for the lawnmower wheels to run over, that way there's no weed-whacking to do, which I hate doing. Some beds I have rocks lining that are sunken down, so that only the flat tops are visible, and the lawnmower wheels can go right on top of the rocks.
When I lived in Fallon, NV the soil there was all sand, which drained very quickly. I found the sunken beds worked best for me, as well as adding lots of peat moss, which help raise the ph of the alkaline soil there and also helped in water retention. That and manure worked really well.
Well, I am in the process of trying to do one of my beds that is just out in my yard - a random spot picked by me that is bordered by rock. The bermuda has overtaken the bed, so my plans are to take out the plants that are in there and pot them up - well except for a small dogwood tree in the bed and a large butterfly bush. The smaller plants such as the DLs etc will be taken out and potted ... then I plan to totally redo that bed. I might even add the plastic edging to the inside - hadn't really thought about that. But, I do plan to put a moat or trench around the bed when I am finished that as you say will prevent the need to weed eat around the perimeter of the rocks and will also (hopefully) help me avoid the spread of the bermuda back into the bed. From what I understand - the problem will be getting all the existing bermuda out of the bed which I am not sure is possible. I attempted to poison large sections of the bermuda but it doesn't appear to have had any effect. In fact, everything that I attempted to poison over a week ago barely shows any signs of trauma. I think it must be because it isn't really in an active growing state and is getting ready for dormancy due to the cooler weather - I hope I am wrong, because i sure need some of the things I sprayed to actually die!
Anyway, I am going to try the moat around that bed and the bed way out front by the light pole when I get to it. That won't really work in my main bed because it is surrounded by gravel that is part of my drive way. I don't think there is much way for me to dig a moat in it - but the bermuda seems to have no trouble growing in the gravel! :( I have attempted to poison all the bermuda around the bed but it is part of what doesn't appear to be effected. May have to wait to spring to get it killed out...
I appreciate all the suggestions and help! I really only want to do this one more time if you know what i mean! :) I have a place that I want to put a large bed out in my back yard and use Mike's technique of removing the sod, etc... just not sure I will be able to put in a new bed before getting the old ones under control. Although there is a BIG part of me that loves the idea of trying to start over and use some of the techniques learned to have a prettier bed that is easier to maintain!
Mike, I love the bed where you have your Hush Little Baby. Thank you for the pic, now I know what mine will look like. Wow nice job on that other bed.
Karen, yes you are right the amount isn't what is important. I am now able to do what I love. (gardening) But you know we are never truly satisfied we always say "just one more and then another and another. Lol It's like I can't ever get enough blooms, the more the merrier. I just love your pics, Mike's pics, I love all the daylily shots that everyone post. I wouldn't be able to pick a favorite i haven't seen one yet that i didn't love. Although I must say I am more and more in awe of the spider daylilys is that what they are called? absolutely beautiful.
The key with the border is going down at least six inches. This will prevent MOST weed from crawling (LOL!) under the border. This involves more initial work. They were throwing out a roll of the under layment for shingles at work and I took this home and used under the bricks on the new beds. These are not sunken. I try to dig out anything that invade this space. If it is a hard to kill creeper, I use "Round-Up" to tackle it. You can also spray (lightly) the outside edge of the border to keep this stuff away along with using (if you so desire) the broadcast type weed killer be it organic or otherwise depending on your conviction.
Mike, just trying to make sure i understand you... are you saying that if you use plastic or metal border that it should go into the ground 6"? The reason I ask is that my metal edging is only probably 4" wide. I haven't measured it, but I am SURE it isn't 6" wide
Genna, I'm wondering if double digging your beds might help with that Bermuda grass. One thing you don't want to do it till it with a mechanical tiller. You need to hand dig it, so you can remove as many roots as possible. Mechanical tilling will just cut up all those roots and make the situation worse. Every piece of root will sprout a new piece of grass. Even with hand tilling you still will not get all the roots out, but you'll get a lot more.
Actually, that area between the grass and the rock edging is niether a moat or trench, but just a level area bare of grass, so you don't even have to make a trench. When you sink the rocks in to where the lawnmower wheels go right on top on the flat tops of the rocks, you don't need that bare spot, but in your case, where you have that grass creeping into the beds, you probably would be best off putting the plastic edging in. I would agree with Mike that 4" will probably be adequate for that edging, but really don't know with the Bermuda grass. Some plants will put their roots down deep to find a way under these things.
Genna, I would concentrate on getting the existing beds under control before starting new ones. I have been slowly doing that. Every now and then I get a hair across my butt to get a new bed started, but then I have to tell myself that I have so many old ones that need fixing up, and I have to get those done and under control first. Always a work in progress.
KsMirasol, yes, very addictive. Just like potato chips, you can't have just one. After you've get a collection as big as mine, though, then you find there are some that you just aren't all that excited about anymore. Not that they aren't all nice, but your tastes change over time. I've been slowly phasing out old ones and replacing them with new. Yes, those spidery ones are called spiders, appropriately so. I love them, too, and many of the unusual forms, as well.
I have more clump shots to add, but haven't had the time. Maybe this weekend.
I don't double dig exactly like they show in organic gardening books, but it's along the same premise. It's very time consuming compared to regular digging. What I do is just dig down one shovel length, then set the clump of soil aside. I dig down one more shovel length in the hole I just dug, and break up that clump real well, taking out any roots I find. I take the first clump and break that up into the hole, also removing roots. I keep doing that, often bacfilling the next hole with the stuff from the hole I just filled in before that. This makes lots of room for the roots of any new plants you're going to put in, and it helps make the soil less compacted underneath. If I'm really ambitious, I will add compost and/or manure as well and dig that in, after I've prepared the bed (my soil is already really fertile and doesn't really need much added, if anything, though it does help, I guess). Then I'll also add a shovel full of compost/manure to each planting hole. It's best to mulch right away after planting to prevent any weed seeds from sprouting, though I don't always find time to do it. Makes more work for me in the weeding department later, though.
Oh ok... thanks for the info. I don't think I have ever heard anyone discuss that method. I THINK I am about to tie into one of my bad beds... the bed has never had true mulch on it - it was experiment gone bad basically as someone told me I could lay paper down and put my grass clippings on top of the paper as mulch. It has grass over running it now. In all honesty, the bermuda is growing around and under and over every rock that borders it - so I don't know if the bermuda came from the outside of from the 'mulch' that i attempted to use the grass clipping for.
I think because it is in such an over grown shape, I am going to remove all the plants that are in it - except for a couple that are too large - one is a dogwood, and one is a butterfly bush that is over 6' tall. But, once I get out the plants that are smaller and easier to handle, I think I am going to just try to dig up the sod as if i was in a new location. It might work on this bed since it doesn't have any wood mulch. Not sure what I will do on the lightpole bed because the bermuda has grown over the wood mulch. Oh well, I just need to deal with one at a time. So much to do outside, not even sure I am going to tackle that today...
Genna, one step at a time. I know it is frustrating and overwhelming at times. I got several projects that I have to chip away at myself. I have several Iris patches that I have to dig up to restore bloom vigor. Some prolifs to plant in the ground on the south side up against the house to increase survival till spring. Hostas, Jack Frost, Hydrangea and Heleborous to move around in the ever changing landscape.
I know... my husband and I both worked outside yesterday for over 6 hrs each. He was mainly mowing, but the yard does look a lot nicer. We spent a full year commuting to Little Rock (2 hrs each way) to help remodel our son's house that he purchased just before starting med school last August. Because of that, nothing got done at home except what absolutely had to be done... so we have beds that are in bad shape, chain link fence that has been taken over by trumpet vine among other things, etc. But, we made a lot of progress yesterday - although most people would probably never notice but us!
Mike, I didn't attack the bed that I thought about doing...instead I went back to the big circle bed where I have worked some getting the grass back out of it. I THOUGHT I had this bed cleaned out good back in May/June, and I put a nice coat of mulch on everything. There is a lot of bermuda and nutgrass in it - but I thought the bermuda had just come over the rocks and across the mulch - what I discovered yesterday by digging in a small area at a time and trying to remove all roots...is that some of those bermuda roots are very deep!! The bermuda is not only coming between and over the rock border but also under the rocks! Some of those roots were deep enough that it has me second guessing my metal edging...and that is the standard foundation edging that everyone uses around here. :( I have to be careful because I am a little ADD when it comes to housework or yard work - and I want to work here and work there because i am so overwhelmed by all that needs to be done and I end up not making anything look better. So, I just made myself work in that same bed for several hours. Then I had some thing that had to be moved and cleaned up so we could get areas mown... and I did do a few other things too. My back could only hold up to so much at one time anyway!
Those pictures are pretty... what is the third pic of? I want to incorporate some hostas into my foundation planting, but I am not sure if they would get into the shade fast enough...
Genna, here's a link to an article on how to eradicate Japanese knotweed, one of the most difficult to kill invasive plants out there. If it would work for that, there's no reason it wouldn't work for your Bermuda grass, or any other invasive plant, for that matter. Only problem is that it takes some time, and the bed wouldn't be available to you for at least a couple of years. If you have other beds where you could move your plants, then you're good to go. I have a large area that has been taken over by invasives, and I'm thinking of trying this myself. The only think I have in there are some Kwanso daylilies, and those would be easy enough to get out. Everything else can go. It's overrun with mint, tradescantia, Jerusalem artichoke, raspberries, and something which I think is in the chrysanthemum family, or perhaps a type of artemesia, which is stoleniferous. You can get the info on the eradication technique on pages 2 and 3 of the article. When you have the tarps down you could keep potted plants on them to make it look nicer. Maybe all the plants that are in there can go into pots until that bed is ready to be used again. http://landscaping.about.com/cs/weedsdiseases/a/knotweed.htm
Genna, I'm the same way you are, all ADD about yard work (I actually do have ADD), as I also get so overwhelmed with all that needs to be done. Some areas look really nice, and many more areas do not. I wish I could just concentrate on getting everything weeded, then have a crew come in and spread mulch on all the weeded beds. That would stop all the weeding for a good long time. Then once everything's weeded and mulched, I can concentrate on shifting plants around, putting in new ones, etc. Today I worked at cleaning up a sales area, and it took me longer than I thought it would. I didn't set out to do it initially. I had worked on that area yesterday, and figured it was done enough. Well, I got to looking at it, and got anal about it, and wanted to do more. Now I have to finish up the rest so all of it will look good. Basically I have weed block down there under the potted plants. I had gotten all the pots weeded out and spent time yesterday hosing off the weed block. Then today I decided I really needed to move the pots and hose off under them as well. I think next year I'm just putting wood chips under the weed block. It will be so much simpler.
Another thing I did was work on cleaning up a bed that was next to that sales area. I should have just concentrated on that, but I decided one of the daylilies in that bed needed to come out and be potted up to sell. Then I decided PRIMAL SCREAM needed to be put in its place. That made me decide I needed to move around some other daylilies, so I concentrated on taking non-pink daylilies out of the bed that I've been converting into an all pink bed for the last couple of years, and switching them with pink ones from other beds. Ugh! Then, of course, they all needed watering, and the beds were not all close together, so I did a lot of dragging the hose around. Oh, and i dug up a peony that will be potted to sell, and I need to dig up more of it to move to a different spot, cause it's a red one, and it's in the pink bed. I need to put a pink peony there, or just more pink daylilies there. Don't know which I'll do yet. I'm thinking I'd like another peony there. I have 2 that are not doing so hot in a shady bed. They would be much happier if I move them to the pink bed in the sun. But where to put the big, red one? Decisions, decisions...
Oh, and I got some of my new daylilies planted. I have many more still to plant. They're soaking in buckets of water. Not too much water, and not at the crowns. They're fine, though I did have a few get crown rot and die. They were all bonus plants from Blueridge. Bummer. The buckets had filled up too much when we got a lot of rain. Usually I try and keep an eye on that and dump out the excess water. One of the ones I lost was SEMINOLE WIND. Might have to see if I can get it again. That looked like a really nice one.
Mike, which hosta is that? It's a pretty one. I love the Jack Frost brunnera. That's one I have. I also have several different kinds of hellebores. I just love them.
Wow - well, at least that article made me thankful I don't have Japanese Knotweed to contend with - and I sure hope I never do! Looks like it takes over a landscape!!!
Sounds like you have been busy Karen! I just keep thinking that if I keep plugging away every evening, eventually I will be able to see some difference! I did work yesterday afternoon, but in a much smaller bed right beside my concrete pad where I park at the end of my garage. I had been doing some work in it off and on, and trimmed a lady banks rose in there that had gotten wayyyy too large. So, yesterday because I knew I didn't have much time, I just worked on trying to get the bermuda out of that bed. It is only about an 8 X 8 bed, but I didn't come anywhere close to getting finished! But, between the weeds I had pulled out the other day, the major trimming of the lady banks rose, and the bermuda that I have gotten out, I can at least see progress when I pull up in the evenings. I hope to make another major dent in it today. It is really slow going because I have lycoris bulbs in the bed that have recently finished blooming, and I have other bulbs ( I think it is narcissus) that are already sprouting and are up about 3" so I am trying to remove the bermuda grass without damaging them! I have concrete on two sides of this bed, so I am starting on the concrete sides and working my way inward. Unfortunately, the other two sides are borders by chain link fence that just opens up into my yard - and so that is where the invasion came from! I hope to put down edging inside the chain link fence once I get the bermuda out to hopefully prevent any future spread.
Speaking of edging, I did call a local sheet metal place to inquire about wider edging and they do a lot of custom edging for some of the landscapers that is 8" wide, then the roll a side to keep it from being sharp and it ends up about 7 1/2 inches wide. The pieces would only be 10' long though so there would be more seams - which means more places for opportunity for the grass to come inbetween, but at least it would go deeper into the ground and prevent (I THINK) the grass roots from going underneath.
Oh well, it is a slow process, but it is slowly looking better!
Mike, thanks. Just post when you figure out which one it is.
Genna, I thank God I don't have J. knotweed on my property, but many areas around here have it. I've seen huge stands of it. I have a friend who grew up in a town about 45 minutes from where I grew up. Their backyard always had a big stand of it. In fact, they didn't really have a backyard. The J. knotweed took up the whole area. My friend's mother still lives in that house, and there the knotweed still is. I don't know if she's ever attempted to get rid of it. I have read that it has some nutritional value. So does Jerusalem artichoke, but I wish my mother had never decided to grow it.
Good luck with all your renovating. I have a lot of that to do myself, and the battle of the invasive plants is never-ending.
Well I have tried spraying it with RU with little to no luck... But, now it is so completely overtaken some of the beds that the only thing I know to do is try to dig as much of it out as possible. It is a slow and tedious task, and I am SURE next to impossible as far as getting it all out. I did have some luck back in the spring killing it with RU - but what I sprayed a few weeks ago didn't seem to notice. It might be because it is not in an active growing season but instead preparing for dormacy - or whatever you would call what grass does in the winter. I did have a friend suggest using a sponge brush - like from the craft dept - to "paint" the roundup onto the bermuda...and I bet that would work a lot better. It would definitely take more time, but it would probably get a better coating on those tiny thin blades!
I didn't get to work yesterday afternoon because my two youngest came home from college last night on Fall break - so I was busy visiting with them. But, I probably will work at least a little while this evening. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel so to speak on cleaning out the small bed that I have been working diligently on this week. Even my son commented on how much work I had done in the beds - and it made me feel better that at least the effort is beginning to show! But, most of the plants in this bed - which is only DLs and bulbs have had to be dug up to get the bermuda roots out from in between the plant roots!! So I guess the bulbs are getting a thinning along the way too... There is a large Lady Banks Rose at the back of this bed that grows on the fence - it has had a major haircut, but can't be dug up because it is way too large. I hope to finish the bed by the weekend because I hope to move some of my DLs that I have in pots into that bed, and a small narrow bed beside a sidewalk that I manage to get cleaned up last week. Will be nice to get some DLs in the ground and get some mulch spread - then it will really look like I am making progress!
Sounds like you are making good progress, Genna. Good luck with getting out that nasty grass. I would still try the tarp method and just pot up your plants and keep them on the tarp to weigh it down, along with some large rocks, then plant in a couple of years. Maybe you could spray all the grass with grass killer before laying the tarps over it. You could put mulch over the tarps before putting the pots down just to make it look nice.
Here are some more clump shots.
A raspberry seedling of my late mother's.
PASTURES OF PLEASURE by Apps.
A mahogany seedling of Mom's.